so i think they retired and arrived in the village. we realized that we still have strength. we still have opportunities to grow something here in our native fertile land, which is the first thing we did. we planted raspberries. this is remontant juice, we get two harvests, one at the beginning of summer, and the second until the very frosts , two rows of remontant raspberries, and this year we also planted one row of early summer raspberries. a pear garden, however, young apple leaves have already flown from them. sveta learned to graft the entire garden that we have now it's all growing in the world to work together , together we pretend our plans in life. so we have this green, so i don't know. here

we have good ones or yes, yes? all the grapes in our vineyard have long since ripened and been harvested and eaten by the only bush that still does not show its maturity. it is here that he remained is called this vineyard bush. anyuta, he is very late and due to such weather conditions. he is not mature this year. we did not collect it, but nevertheless we walk around here every day looking for it. quietly. grapes are a complex culture for belarus, because they grow it in the south in belarus, not the climate, but as it turned out, in pinsk, retired on our side

, grapes have long been grown. and we met with a lot of people who are already engaged in this grape. e for many years and we decided too. why don’t we try on our site now more grape statuses of them, probably 50-60 varieties, and we know where we have which variety grows, what it is called and the features of its growth. right now we are standing near, uh, arcadia bush yes, this year it was a little hard for him, because it was late spring and the grapes were lagging behind. it was almost a whole month. we took care of his every kidney this year, our grapes pleased ours and the people who came to us to buy it. 8 years ago we planted our first bushes, of course, these were mistakes.

it was it was practice. now we already know how grapes grow. and we have made a lot of winegrower friends, from whom we adopt experience. we are happy to communicate with them, because some people benevolent special big beautiful big berry. at first we were surprised that we have it and we can grow it like that, in general, belarus and our woodlands fertile land the earth if you invest in it in your work and a particle of your soul, if this is your favorite thing, then she will give her wealth to you strength. 10 years i lived on sakhalin on sakhalin, the most beautiful nature , the sea of ​​hills, but always

stood before my eyes. my village is a belarusian calm landscape, a fox, i dreamed that i would come and walk in my forests and pick mushrooms berries, so that i would go out to my reservoir with my children and grandchildren to rest, in general, there are good people like our people you rarely meet when we came back to our village. we began to perceive the nature around us in a completely different way. we began to notice the unique beauty of our forests, our lakes, the beauty. singing, birds. we began to perceive this as something particularly acute. we understood what was

around us. our native land, our native land, we feel like masters on it. we feel that we live where we and supposed to live. i have traveled to many countries in my time. i offended all of europe , i was in italy and france and germany well , of course, more in czechoslovakia, hungary, bulgaria, only here i have the feeling of the owner of my land. what a beautiful straight line. stroke beauty.

our studio's guests today are aleksey mashkin, deputy head of the criminal investigation department of the central internal affairs directorate of the minsk city executive committee, and aleksey novash, head of the cybercrime counteraction department of the central internal affairs directorate of the minsk city executive committee. it's not the first time we've met police officers in this studio and we say that our citizens are being subjected to fraudulent actions and we say that no matter how much we say, people are still engaged in all kinds of, and dishonest schemes and

give their money, and last year. we can say that there was a surge of such crimes. can we estimate the damage and maybe the average amount. what kind of people voluntarily give up, with regard to relationships associated with the so -called accidents when the victim receives a call on the phone, but it is unknown informs relatives that he is in trouble, but asks for money in order to resolve the issue of the victims and not initiate a criminal case, then, uh, if we talk about average damage. uh, for such a car there, the amount varies from the minimum. for cash, this is like 1,000 rubles. belarusian and can reach the maximum transfer amount we had 50,000 us dollars is determined or the fraudster calls a specific amount always says that for uh termination of the criminal case. and uh, that the victim did not write a statement is necessary amount 50.000 rub. this is always usually the call is discussed immediately during the phone call. but when talking about

the victim, i have such an amount, i don’t have it. i have certain amounts that he has and he is ready to give it further already, respectively, scammers. yes, agree to these terms. and then a courier goes to him, who takes this amount of money, comes home and gives the money. yes, all the time while the courier is going, uh, to the injured. uh, keeps the victim on the phone and does not give the opportunity to call his close relative to find out if he really did or did he get into the mind or not, when this happens, eh? the victim is dictated by a statement on various kinds of must know, yes, the main persons must ask for the termination of the head case and all the time tells him that everything will be fine. do not worry about adding some personal hygiene items to your height, because they are in a medical institution, and all the money is put in a package that is transferred,

respectively, with the former courier. and who tends to be so hello who becomes victim? talk many times. it seems to me that young people will definitely not go for this, as a rule, they are lonely, pensioners living, and who have savings for the so-called rainy day, and they assume that by their actions they help their close relative with the hope that by passing money. everything will be fine for him, for his loved one, first of all , the very centers from which they are occupied. i understand that this is not a randomly dialed number. that is, this whole system works, of course, this is usually a professional call center, where psychologists are located, but they conduct a professional conversation, built on the belief that the victims should never doubt that he is talking, as a rule, with representatives of a law enforcement agency, or this is a police officer or an investigative committee. and according to the available data, we can see that these call centers

are located outside the city outside the republic of belarus, this is possible. the republic of ukraine and more the republic of poland, if we talk about ukraine, since the beginning of the year, this number of such calls has not decreased. uh to date, calls continue and there are already cases of people transferring money. what are the main types of such fraud, what can be new in the arsenal, what should i pay attention to? well, with a traffic accident. it's clear. everyone has already met that i am now. well, i will say this does not lose its relevance. and not only here is fraud in that, here is the standard form, which aleksey gennadievich stopped at, but also the so -called fraud associated with directly, but using the network. internet this is also notorious see it too phishing uh in more detail a lot of foreign words that require deciphering. ah. again , let's go back if, in simple terms, this is to say these same calls from representatives of banking institutions, supposedly representatives of

banking vibers. any messenger can be used there, as far as phishing is concerned, this is again a way of fraudulent actions using the so-called social engineering. that is, this is psychological impact is only associated not with direct, but with communication by telephone . and this communication through the network is the same uh online trading platforms. this is again the same jokes - these are the same dating sites. this is any, can be any sites. uh, used on the internet that offer, under various pretexts, to carry out some financial transactions with your funds, pay for some kind of purchase, or receive some kind of winnings, and thus, providing your confidential data personal data that allows you to access your purchase account via the internet is very popular. yes, they are very popular. it is very comfortable. it is clear that the world does not stand

still, but develops and is offered. on services that will make our life easier from our second yes purchase from money transfer scammers. the fact is that in situations related to the so-called these, uh, traffic accidents here. yes , it's obvious here, it's obvious here. uh, by and large , the internet. it is not being used. here the call just comes in, the only question is where he comes from. and how does it receive the phone, e communication, or through e communication devices, but again the call goes to the home phone and a live courier arrives for the person, that is, a specific person to whom, e, the injured party independently transfers funds, as for internet fraud, that is a crime. so-called cybercrimes. here, as a rule, communication absolutely does not occur between the injured victim and the offender. they are not see each other. they communicate, either again through messengers, or through, or the internet through various social networks. and

again, the same messengers alexei vladimirovich has already said about the fact that couriers come in live communication. and who are these same couriers, who goes to this type of earnings, because they don’t consciously tell him that you will deliver pizza, and get paid for it. uh, as a rule, these are young people between the ages of 16 and 23 who are not officially employed looking for themselves. uh, so called m-m earnings, associated with not hard physical labor , this job advertisement in the form of couriers. they are found on various sites. telegram channels, where i offer, and they earn 100 rubles. and above, and for the purpose of roughly speaking the transportation from the point, and to the point b of various kinds of things under a god-like pretext. no, they tell him that you need to come to the address, but pick up the person, the package or things and bring him, respectively, another place. because of this, a certain amount of money is obtained,

as a rule? persuades. eh, right away in some cases, the employer. the so -called asks to throw off the passport data of the courier, who will be, uh, in which case yes, in which case, so that the so -called employer himself can contact the internal affairs authorities and report that he has already become a so-called victim, it turns out, and the courier appropriates himself personally the money that he received from the victim. as i understand it, if the couriers are those people who manage to be detained, yes, then these are the very call centers and those people who call and, probably, don’t even they. yes, how this scheme is arranged and to what extent, and it is really possible to destroy this scheme and about the safety of people, any of this fraudulent scheme involves more than one person. well, this is such a directly organized company. moreover, there is a clear distribution of roles, and at the same time it is important to understand that the situation is that these participants in this scheme communicate, as a rule, also online. that is,

in most cases they don’t even know each other, all communication takes place. eh, hire. these are the workers of people who will fulfill a certain draft work. the so-called workers also take place via the internet, that's how aleksey gennadievich dwelled on the situation with couriers. this is the final link that must be completed for some specific reward. this is the work to collect the money . in the same way, this scheme also involves people who are directly involved in calls of a person who teaches these people very important points, because we are all we understand very well that all these relationships are there. this must be serious enough. psychological preparation, which is based precisely on human feelings about understanding uh, and uh, deceive and persuade to kill a person so that he gives his uh funds further. this scheme can also

involve uh, intermediate apologies. on e-e with the persons who will draw up for themselves , certain accounts, the same bank cards. these are the same uh persons who are engaged in the exchange, for example, there is e cash for the same cryptocurrency or digital currency, and therefore even the suppression of such criminal activity is even at the stage. here let them be the same, but the couriers at the stage of these workers, whose faces are influenced by you , and whom we detain, bring to justice on the territory of our state. it already plays a significant role. and in reducing this criminal activity, and yet these preventive measures and practical work related to the organization and detention and prosecution of those persons are bearing fruit and are aimed at reducing the number of potential victims. uh, in our state city. minsk international cooperation in this area,

you can cooperate with colleagues from other countries and oppose together. but as a rule, yes, there are opportunities, as a rule, with colleagues from the russian federation, because this type of crime is also common among them. uh, somewhere we get additional information, uh, and exchange experience in solving this type of crime. we talked about leaflets and tv shows and stories. it seems to me that there are already all possible types of prevention. we have engaged. why do people still give it their money to scammers, after all, and very often after people apply, and to the authorities. they say that they heard about such, apparently, fraud, yes, 99% of the victims that we communicated with, who transferred money and said that yes, i knew, i heard, i read from this method of committing fraud. but at what point, when a call occurs, and people are lost. and imagine that indeed they were

called by a person close to them and a native, purely psychology. yes, and we are built on this, in principle, a conversation so that person a hears familiar, as it seems to him, a native voice, it will be distorted, and at the same time there will be an explanation that the person’s lip is broken, perhaps the jaw, so he speaks so incomprehensibly when she is already taking the phone, respectively, you imagine a person as a police officer, or investigative committees and explain what happened. what is the best way to test your erudition and ingenuity correctly tricky questions to start at what age he as it seems to you, he could already be called a grandfather. i think that 65, probably now, and bogdan

thinks, but i read the new land in a summary and, in my opinion, option b appeared there. if this is the wrong answer , grow up, please, otherwise i will be the teacher of the belarusian athlete who has the most instagram followers. they live as their heart tells them, doing what they love, and according to society, they boldly break stereotypes. to be in the workshop to do

everything with my own hands, my friend told me. you that the crazy woman is leaving, you open a new house, the next two or three rows of chess are already in your head, yes, that is, a few moves in advance for yourself to already understand that their path to yourself will end was not easy, but it was worth it the other side of the phone is young, the voice immediately something you years old. yes, that is, somehow it was that the stove-maker must be some kind of bearded one. i think that he is a quality that i lacked, and i just developed in myself, that is, stereotypes. it lies in the fact that if you want, you can change this stereotype, right? that is, you can work for yourself, the quality is not enough for some of your goals, watch the project to break stereotypes on

belarus 24 tv channel. it also has certain limits and has its own positive effect. well , yes, it is clear that especially if this crime is connected, uh, with the internet. and what is the internet is a global network. this two people can communicate with each other, being at different uh ends of the globe, so to say that, for example, it takes two months or six months there, depending on the situation. well, nevertheless, yes. compared to general criminality , the process is enough, because it is very seriously closed, and that's how it was mentioned at

international cooperation, because as a rule. here are social networks, their organizers are located on the territory of other states. you need to get some digital information. need this information willingly hmm yes, of course, we have built. interaction is quite serious at the level of the ministry of the interior with similar structures in other states. uh, certain contractual agreements on the basis of which we exchange all this information , yes, uh, territory distance, they are, of course, initially quite serious. but this is not some kind of hard obstacle to the fact that in some herd we have this interaction suspended, and we could not carry out some action, so it can be borrowing. yes, maybe for months or six months we are currently solving crimes that were committed 2 3 4 years ago, because it turns out not. but no, each crime has its own

statute of limitations, depending on the category it belongs to, well, two, three, four years. it's not a deadline, uh, and uh, getting certain information, including from your colleagues. frontier, receiving certain digital information in the course of direct work on the internet itself analyzing e. here are those digital traces that are collected within a certain period of time, we come and still establish a sheet that is involved in the commission of such crimes on the global network. and very often messengers are hacked into pages in social networks. why do they do it? well, this one, it seems, as harmless, but they came to send a message to their friends. here are your names, why is this being done? what is the risk? the fact is that the first question is, why is this being done? let's go back a year or two. we very often, uh, said when such people appeared like this called the first some kind of fraud. these are on such a global scale. uh, the first thing that people began to pay attention to remembered the first premise that if you

receive a call from a foreign number, in no case do not talk to you, a scammer is calling you. well, here's this thesis, he somewhere still began to accelerate. and the criminals began to lose potential victims due to what they see, and the foreign number is not the belarusian prefix, which means, uh, this is a scammer, so uh, the scammers have a so-called deficit. these are the victims, yes, certain victims, for this they needed belarusian numbers, so that when a call comes to the messenger from the belarusian number, he is calmer and more calm about this issue. for this e began to develop. eh, different again here. eh, as a rule, phishing links, that is, fake links that look very similar to some real real site and send, uh, citizens to the same. here is, uh, the viber messenger which is now the most common. here exactly. these are the hacks, and citizens. eh,

getting a certain link. they don't really start reading. they click on this button. it actually gives, uh, remote access to your account, the scammer gets access to yours. then they take possession of it and then later they use your phone number, which is our belarusian number, which is , uh, in order to commit further uh , uh, fraudulent actions, or is it already used for such calls as , uh, an accident, then does it use it for further commission of the crime. there precisely cybercrime is the second point. as for responsibility, of course. it responsibly exists we have a whole chapter in the criminal code 31 crimes against computer security, which provides for, uh, liability for unauthorized access. well, also for illegal use. here are these personal e-electronic data, if the fraudster was detained and after serving the sentence how often are they

returned, if such are repeated. in the case when they return and continue to practice the same and whether they fall for the same bait again, and as for the victims, but i’ll tell you. so, we probably had cases, uh, that the victim, for maybe five or six hours, came twice or thrice, even the courier, that is, the conversation continued and the victim throughout this conversation, and she was convinced that that the amount is insufficient and the victim twice thrice, transferred money, as for the persons who committed fraud, then, as a rule, people who communicate to this kind in the car, if these are young people aged 16 to 27 years old, when they already realize what they have done, then, of course, they already repent understand that they are threatened with punishment , they say that we are more than yes and as for the repetition of committing fraud,

as a rule, these are other machines. which is done in relation to, probably familiar friends, where under a plausible pretext, uh , a person, uh, says that i need money to develop a business, that is, in this way he takes one amount, a second third, after which the scheme. clearly hidden. he is condemned and after the events of punishment, a person does not know how to do anything except before, respectively, dns methods go and fantasy is performed. listen, yes, therefore, a person, and does not stop roughly speaking, even if after serving the sentence there were cases that he commits a similar kind of crime, how quickly the victim gets out of this shock and applies to the police that he has become a victim of a car. well, maybe after the end of the call. uh, three, four, five times the courier came, that is, each time you gave a new amount. and when it became clear that they were deceived, yes, put the phone down and you start the victim begins

to realize that, probably. somewhere i was wrong, i heard about such a situation, uh, which i heard on tv, or read somewhere, it starts to recruit familiar relatives in the first place. well, to clarify how the state of what in a telephone conversation finds out that no one has been in an accident, everyone is alive and well and immediately applies. yes, it already turns out right away by phone, or uh with uh independently applies to the territorial subdivision bodies of the courier to detain. well, right with the package, relatively speaking, yes, there have been cases. eh, where did we succeed? uh, red-handed to detain the courier, right next to the address of the victim, someone realized very quickly. yes what is happening there is a possibility where we with uh can quickly respond to such scam messages worth knowing. let's try to list how else our citizens are being deceived. ways to do it. here are these fraudulent actions,

theft of deceptions. you can call it whatever you like. they don't change, only the excuse, under who are called by mail there and say, go to the post office and receive a parcel for a platinum amount of money. but the fact is that today we have already talked about why they are committed, why do people react to this? the fact is that a person is not a robot, he has his own feelings, and scammers play on these feelings. uh, a serious feeling, this feeling of fear, on which, again, there is also an accident when a relative gets there. we are ready to give everything there, just to save our loved one, then there is a feeling of idleness. some kind of curiosity. eh, let's go. we will pass some kind of testing, fill in, spin the wheel of fortune, suddenly we are lucky. well , the third, of course, i would probably single out. these are questions of precisely a certain self-interest and a thirst for obtaining some kind of, uh, some material benefits, while doing nothing. and now we return again to the same premises, that is, a person receives a message that she has come

to your topic. a link in which some very expensive gift is located all you need to do is there to pay some kind of symbolic amount for a postal order. yes, then you will find out what is there, well, they can tell you on the phone that you have won some very new phone there or some kind of household appliances, something very serious. well, when you are already going somewhere at home, you think how i will be now, how i will sell my old one to whom and are ready to pay some amount there for the fact that you then open this package. there 's a phone there, maybe anything. there, maybe just a brick to lie. maybe maybe just a set of paper or something. well, any object that creates a certain e weight creates some kind of weight and everything that is on the dating site. these are the same dating sites. and here again we come to a certain problem. why do we stop?