ah, uh, also the mayor said that it would interfere very much with his career in the cdu party of the christian democratic union in germany am. if the journalists find out about it, that is, they give out because of this scandal, and he can not allow me to ruin his career, because he wants to stay for another term. and why did he always ask ukrainian refugees. your work is related to this. yeah, i forgot to tell you that. um, i worked, uh, in welfare. that is, i provided for german citizens who couldn't work. uh, hmm got a small pension and also took care of refugees from all over the world. that is, these are not only ukrainian refugees. there were refugees from afghanistan , syria, eritrea, and so on, that is, from all over the world. and, uh, a problem arose only when refugees from ukraine began to come to us, and then he called me to him and said that he would file a german complaint against me at the kgb and i

would also need legal assistance. and hmm the next day. he called me again and said that he had spoken to the kgb and was suspending me. temporarily occupied position just a couple of days later. ah, i was waiting near the house, early in the morning, um, the criminal police. department for combating terrorism. even so. yes, they produced a search warrant and weren't fired. i was suspended from my position, but not fired, which means they were waiting for me in the morning near the house, they showed me, as in the movies, a stamp, such as the criminal police and a search warrant. they were looking for evidence of my activities against nato and in particular against germany in my case, electronic media, because the posts were made from somewhere and they searched they searched the whole house, and in the end . uh, they took away the mobile phone. that

is, they have already started you, as agents perceive. it's true that at that moment you had agent yes, a quilted jacket, as they sometimes call such a bloodthirsty terrible house, just ukrainian refugees it's absolutely true, yes, um, when i worked in the executive committee, here i deal with refugee affairs, many knew where i work and uh, when the wave started, the refugees began to be transferred to each other, which means that there there is such a russian speaker who can help both in russian in german and in ukrainian to explain and explain some aspects of the new life, so to speak, in germany these people, and hmm, a lot of people turned to me. i helped them out of working hours too. hmm, one mom with three children applied. so, uh. hmm. and when i found out that they were in the same tiny little room, i hmm offered myself to him as a temporary shelter until they decide how to go further. uh-huh , because hmm social apartments. in

germany, there is not enough place to live, and how would they you need to look for housing for yourself, which is very often complicated. hmm, lack of language or understanding of the whole situation, how it works in germany, but i'll clarify. there was a family, uh, it was a mother with three children. their dad lived nearby, even so well. but for those who conducted the search, yes, they didn’t have this dissonance of the brain due to the fact that they came to you as a person who, in general, lays out his opinion. yes , including connected with ukraine, at the same time, ukrainian refugees live in your home. here's how it was received. mm. they when entered the house, they were at first shocked by this fact, they began to check the documents. is it true ukrainian refugees. and when they saw that this was actually the case, they immediately started calling their superiors, their leadership, because um, so it was a group of four people. they were all confused. they did not know what to do to conduct a search or not to conduct a search. how did they ask me um. how do

you accept yourself as ukrainian refugees with such an accusation, and i answered. and what do these two questions have in common with each other. that is one thing - this is my, uh, political position or my opposition in relation to my country to my state, and something else is completely helping those people who are in trouble, that is, we are belarusians. we are never or slavs. we never refused to help, and in this regard, this situation was no exception for me either , uh, but the management gave the go-ahead to conduct a search and said no. eh, no big deal. this does not concern us, yes, to carry on further, and the most interesting thing was that, when the charge came from the court on eight sheets. um, there's a very fleeting mention of that i had a family at that time, from ukraine, hmm, and more concentrated on just these signs for

this file people think, in general, about this external political agenda, which is now being cultivated in germany, and most importantly. so how has life changed? has it changed after the imposition of sanctions against russia and belarus as well? this means that we should distinguish ukrainian refugees a little, which means to europe not those refugees from donbass who have been hearing the siren since 2014, but those refugees who have heard the siren only last year and their way of life are coming. suddenly, the way of life changed. e hmm and here it will not work. here is the tactic. i'll sit, keep quiet my hut on the edge i don't know anything, that is, they were forced to leave their homes. yes, they went to europe, uh, hmm, plus all this is fueled by that. e hmm, these ideas of national superiority that have been

shaped in them over the past 30 years. i mean, it was noticeable. it was noticeably. yes? yes, it's noticeable. this is noticeable even in small things, even when i looked at school textbooks, or we talked about something . i mean, it was noticeable. yes , towards you, how they relate. they rather tolerated me, because time was useful at that moment. yes, we had, that is , we had an agreement, we don’t discuss political topics at home, but still, hmm , you wives that i had and their friends, they watched reports from ukraine all the time from morning to evening, they called more dearly, spraying themselves with more more fakes and so-called uh hmm russia's crimes against ukraine em and proved to me with foam at the mouth that nazism does not exist in ukraine and that russians are a russian-speaking population. there's no one harassing that's what they think uh hmm well, that is, here they are in all seriousness. so they say, they are completely sure of what they say. germans here there are several categories

of germans who well also has a different opinion. so some, uh, hmm, proved to me in exactly the same way that the german media and the only snakes that tell the truth, and in which there is free speech and democracy in in germany, this category exists, which is enough just to listen to the radio in the car in the evening, watch a short tv and be sure that hmm german esmium and in general, the german government says, only the truth. nothing but the truth. this one category is a very rare category there is. uh, also germans who support russia in the eradication of nazism in ukraine and understand all the meanness of e politics, and america and the west against russia and belarus can be said against germany itself at the end in the end, yes, this is the third category that i wanted to say, these are those germans who are not entirely for russia, well, and not entirely against it, but

they are working. your government, because umm they say the government has imposed sanctions sanctions have affected us ordinary people, that is, if of course, if before that am politics was somewhere far away on tv, now it has touched every family in germany why because that electricity prices have risen to gasoline to diesel to gas and uh, that's not to mention the prices of food, but hmm and everyone needs to go to work everyone needs to heat their house, yes, that is, if before the germans could save money for new cars for holidays. um, today they spend their savings on getting to work and really heating their house, that is, to keep it warm, this is real, there may be problems. yes, it can be a real problem. yes, yes, but hmm and this category they say, why didn’t the chancellor calculate before he imposed sanctions against ukraine in russia, how this will affect ordinary germans if they

before that, they paid 80 euros for heating per month, then, after recalculation, this amount increased by 400 euros and they shrug their shoulders and say, how are we going to pay it? and as for the sanctions, that is, from spring to summer, it was constantly heard on the radio on television that the government promised to find ways to resolve the issue of gas supplies even without russia that we could do little. we 'll be done by the start of the heating season. they suddenly presented to the germans their solution to the problem, namely, they offered to turn the heating to a minimum in volumes, and how wash less often. and it’s even better to wipe yourself with a wet cloth, literally you yourself have seen and heard in all seriousness. these even posters were put up on social networks, which showed exactly what places and how to wipe with a wet cloth, that in order to somehow maintain

hygiene, including, uh, hmm politicians of different parties they filmed videos. and where was it explained how a simple german hmm get rid of a large amount of his comfort in order to somehow have enough resources to stretch, uh, until spring, here with heating houses and heating hot water. well, well, irina is true, i'm wondering, the very fact. that's when the ukrainian ambassador melnyk called the offended liverwurst schultz. in general , the information was in the state german media so you knew about it or you already found out about it, then you somehow cultivate it, in general you have the opportunity to watch other media independent of germany from the state or pro state media in germany here i am, let's say, here i can watch german read german resources. look german.