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irina good evening. good evening. marina sergeevich well, firstly, i want to greet you in my native belarus, the new year holidays have passed. christmas is the old new year, well , the holidays in which we all expect miracles, and on december 26 you irina weitzel returned to your

homeland after 20 years of work and life in germany. well, let's talk about everything in order. this is how it happened that european special services began to chase after ordinary belarusian women in germany. well, you seem to be not anna chapman yes, you will agree, but how did you get there at all and what did we do there? but let's start in order then uh, when i was 16, we sang in the church choir. i drank in the church choir, and we were often in gomel in the cathedral of saints peter and paul, we had frequenters in germany and there i met my future husband at the age of 16 after 4 years. he proposed to me. and i went to live in germany, yes. yes, here e. hmm, there i worked for a long time in various public services, and in the german government, but not only in administrative work. and uh, on the list of

my employers, by the way, were also yours, so to speak colleagues in this regard, the second german television association of savings banks of the earth. ryan faltz. uh, hmm this is west germany yes. yes and the last place. there, work began in government agencies. it was the executive committee. from there i was fired. literally last year in april on charges of activities against nato, this is how it happened, but for me it came as a complete surprise. i didn’t understand the world at all, everything just turned upside down for me. i never thought that i could be suspected of something like this, not to mention to be fired on such charges. maybe i don’t understand something, but the accusations that you are working against nato because i don’t know something, maybe you were preparing a conspiracy against germany there, left it on the net about the german

government in comments, some participated in unauthorized rallies people, roads were blocked in general because of what this kind of wording. is that how you labeled it? as i understand it, you didn’t work for, to put it mildly , foreign money against germany against germany, then really absolutely nothing why? was this accusation founded? i didn’t do anything at all, that’s right, yes, i wasn’t at the rallies. i did n't offend anyone. i did not receive foreign funding. the only thing i allowed myself to show on my personal facebook page. uh, my commitment to belarus to our president. em. my employer took over. e, and, a filed a complaint against me with the german state security committee a. so, on my page i can tell you, i had, uh, posts, uh, first of all, there was our

belarusian anthem, signed with german captions, and with words we are belarusians, peaceful people. that is, i generally think that the anthem is hmm, a kind of soul of this or that people, and listening to the words of the anthem, you can understand the deep values ​​of the people, and i wanted to convey this to the germans in our belarusian soul. uh, first of all, um, then there were also reports there, for example, by yuri podoliaki, who, living in sums, covered current events. e about special operations. yes, and there were reports of cattle ritter ex-marine. e. hmm you know inspector. he is a famous person. yes, we often use his materials. there were also hmm meetings of the ukrainian and russian sides on the territory of belarus when they were still trying to agree, that is, from different sides. there was also a portrait. e mikhail skobelev em,

who said that only a russian person meant slavs. em can fight out of a feeling for the faith of her brotherhood, that is, completely different things, but i tried to highlight this situation from different angles to show that it is not worth it unequivocally. she looks like she shows. here are the european media but a little. stop to think and look at the situation from different angles, that there is another opinion. and that is, it was such a driving motive for my actions at that time, but the biggest surprise for me was that i was basically accused, um, because of the video, which shows paratroopers making figures in the air. e, zae-vei, that is, with this fau in german em and thus it was said that e i support a criminal offense in germany and e. threatening the public peace order hmm let's go

let's summarize. yes, that is, it turns out for the letters z and c. come on, the symbols of the special operation, in principle , for expressing their position. well, just which is different from the official position of germany yes, this is not a criminal offense , it's just different from the position of opinion. yes from the position of power of opinion you. first, they quit their job on this basis. so then a criminal case was opened. i understand correctly. well, it was in parallel. yes, the dismissal was good. well, to put it mildly, provided for under the contract in this case. no, i went against e employer to court. i filed for him, like , that's how i dealt with you. that is, he called you, or how it happened in practice. the executive committee has a mayor and there is a managing executive committee with the mayor, he is the chief in the region. we often talked about my

commitment to belarus, my commitment to the policy of our president. uh, he knew my position for a long time when you were working, right? yes, during these years, when we worked, that is, we talked about this more than once em and when the military special operation began. he came to me to drink coffee and asked. uh, how do i feel about all this. i told him about the donbass, he had nothing about it. known. he did not know that hostilities had been going on there since 2014, that many ukrainians suffered from their own compatriots. in the country of donbass or in the donbass uh hmm and he asked me how i would treat the ukrainian refugees who would come to us. i replied that i was just as professional. i will undertake to fulfill my professional duties, official duties, and this does not interfere in any way, that is, my position in relation to my state. it will not interfere with my work, in

principle, this is our conversation. uh, at first it ended, and then literally 3-4 weeks later he called me to his place, and the mayor and the manager called me to him and said that they would report me to uh hmm and the state security committee in germany uh. due to the fact that i had these posts on facebook, and hmm, and they believe that i can’t, as a belarusian citizen and adherent of my policy to my of the state to deal with the affairs of ukrainian refugees, and hmm also the mayor said that this would interfere very much with his career in the cdu party. and the christian democratic union of germany a hmm if the journalists find out about it. i mean, they're going to get hyped out of this scandal, and he can't let me ruin his career because he wants to stay for another term. and why did he keep asking you about ukrainian refugees.

your work is related to this. yes? i forgot to tell you about this. uh, i worked, uh, in welfare. that is, i provided for german citizens who could not work. uh, hmm, got a small pension, and i also took care of refugees from all over the world. that is, these are not only ukrainian refugees. there were refugees from afghanistan, syria, eritrea, and so on, that is, from all over the world. and, uh, a problem arose only when refugees from ukraine began to come to us, and then he called me to his office and said that he would report me to the german kgb and i would need legal assistance. and hmm the next day. he called me again and said that he had spoken to the kgb and removes me temporarily from my position just a couple of days later. ah, i was waiting near the house, early in the morning, um, the criminal police. department for combating terrorism. even so. yes, they produced

a search warrant and weren't fired. i was suspended from my position, but not fired, which means they were waiting for me in the morning near the house and showed me, like in the movies, a stamp, a tripo, the criminal police and a search warrant. they were looking for evidence of my activities against nato and in particular against germany in my case, electronic media, because the posts were made from somewhere and they searched they searched the whole house. eh, after all. uh, we took the mobile phone. that is, they have already started you, as agents perceive. it's true that at that moment you have an agent yes quilted jacket, sometimes they call a bloodthirsty scary such house lived, just ukrainian refugees it's absolutely true, yes, um, when i worked in the executive committee, here i deal with refugee affairs, many knew where i

work and um , when the wave started, they began to transfer refugees to each other, which means that there there is a russian speaker who can help explain and explain some aspects of the new life in russian, german, ukrainian, so to speak, in germany, these people, and hmm, a lot of people turned to me. i helped them out of working hours too . hmm, one mom with three children applied. here uh hmm and when i found out that they were flying in the same tiny little room. i offered you a temporary place for him until they decide how to go further uh -huh because hmm social apartments. in germany, there is not enough place to live, and how would they you need to look for housing for yourself, which is very often complicated. hmm, lack of language or even understanding of the whole situation, how it works in germany. well, i'll clarify. there was a family, uh, it was a mother with three children. their dad lived nearby, even so well. but those who

conducted the search, yes, they didn’t have this dissonance of the brain due to the fact that they came to you as a person who, in general, lays out his opinion. yes , including connected with ukraine, at the same time, ukrainian refugees live in your home. here's how it was received. when they came at first they were shocked by this fact, they began to check the documents. is it true ukrainian refugees. and when they saw that this was actually the case, they immediately started calling their superiors, their leadership, because um, so it was a group of four people. they were all confused. they did not know what to do to conduct a search or not to conduct a search. how did they ask me um. how do you accept yourself as ukrainian refugees with such an accusation, and i answered. and what does er, these two questions have in common with each other. that is one thing. this my, uh, political position or my opposition in relation to my country to my state and something else is help to those people who are in trouble, that is, we are

belarusians. we are never or slavs. we have never refused to help, and in this regard, this situation was no exception for me either. but the management gave the go-ahead to conduct a search and said no, it's okay. this does not concern us. yes, move on and the most interesting thing was that, when the charge came from the court on eight sheets. um, there is a lot it is briefly mentioned that my family lived at that time at the time of the obaska, uh from ukraine uh hmm but it concentrates more on just these signs of this file irina and what about ukrainian real estate, yes, and ordinary germans, well, who are with whom in general , ordinary ordinary people talked and think, in general, about this external political agenda, which is now being cultivated in germany, and most importantly. so how has their life changed? has it changed after the imposition of sanctions against russia and belarus, including

we need to distinguish a little between ukrainian refugees, which means that not those refugees from donbass who have been hearing the siren since 2014 are going to europe, but those refugees who heard the siren only last year and their way of life. suddenly, the way of life changed. e hmm and here it will not work. here is the tactic. i'll sit, keep quiet my hut on the edge i don't know anything, that is, they were forced to leave their homes. yes, they went to europe, uh, hmm, plus all this is fueled by that. e hmm, these ideas of national superiority that have been shaped in them over the past 30 years. i mean, it was noticeable. it was noticeable. yes? yes, it's noticeable. this is noticeable even in small things, even when i looked at school textbooks. or we talked about something . that is, it was noticeable, yes, in relation to you, the way they treat you. and hmm , they rather tolerated me, because it was useful for them at that moment. yes, we had, that is

, we had an agreement, we don’t discuss political topics at home, but still, uh, to you, those wives that i had and their friends, they watched reports from ukraine all the time from morning to evening, they called dearer, spraying even more fakes, and the so -called uh crimes of russia against ukraine uh hmm and proved to me with erta foam that nazism does not exist in ukraine and that the russian-speaking population is russian. there, no one oppresses it, uh, what they think. uh, well, that is, they say that in all seriousness . yes, they are completely sure of what they say, listen. there are several categories of germans here, who, well, also have different opinions. so, some um proved to me in the same way that the german media and the only snakes that tell the truth, and in which there is freedom of speech and democracy in germany exists, this is the category that is enough just to listen to the radio in the car in the

evening, watch a short tv and be sure that mm german emy and in general the german government says, only the truth nothing but the truth. this one category is a very rare category there is. uh, also germans who support russia in the eradication of nazism in ukraine and understand all the meanness of e politics, and america and the west against russia and belarus can be said against germany itself, in the end , yes, this is the third category that i wanted to say, these are those germans who are not entirely for russia. well, not entirely against it, but they are rop. your own government, because uh, they say, the government of the bicycle sanctions has affected us ordinary people, that is, if of course, if before that, uh, politics was somewhere far away on tv, now it has touched every family in germany why because the price of electricity , petrol, diesel, gas and e,

this is not to mention the prices of the products. e hmm and everyone needs to go to work everyone needs to heat their house, yes, that is, if before the germans could save money for new cars for holidays. um, today they spend their savings on getting to work and actually heating their house, that is, to keep it warm, this is real, there may be real problems, there may be problems. yes, yes, but hmm and this category they say, why didn’t the chancellor calculate before he imposed sanctions against russia on ukraine like this will affect ordinary germans, if before that they paid 80 euros for heating per month, then later, after recalculation, this amount increased by 400 euros and they shrug their shoulders and say, how are we going to pay it? uh, plus uh, hmm, with regard to sanctions, that is, from spring to summer, it was heard constantly on the radio on

television that the government promised to find ways to resolve the issue of gas supplies and that we can do without russia. we'll be done by the start of the heating season. they suddenly presented the germans with their solution to the problem, and it was proposed to twist the heating to a minimum in the houses. and wash as little as possible. and it’s even better to wipe yourself with a wet cloth, literally you yourself have seen and heard in all seriousness. these even posters were put up on social networks, which showed exactly what places and how to wipe with a wet cloth, that in order to somehow maintain hygiene, including, uh, hmm politicians of different parties they filmed videos. and where was it explained how a simple german hmm get rid of a large amount of his comfort in order to somehow have enough stretch the resource, uh, until spring, here with heating houses and heating hot water. in

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well, well, irina is true, i'm wondering, the very fact. that's when the ukrainian ambassador melnyk called the schultz an offended liverwurst. in general, the information was in the state german media. so you knew about it . i can watch german read german resources. yes, watch german channels desire i can easily find it, well, except for maybe the milky welly glory. god this dump. true, it makes no sense to read, because 99%, it's just not true. well, let's say, so first, then, uh, offended or faithful sausages. eh, i heard that. it was a big outrage in all of me in germany. well, you know, it's such a moment, as

if all of germany spat in your face. let's just let it be that way. uh, well, about esme, let's say, when the military special operation began, some channels were blocked, that is, rbc bbk channels some videos of the belt some videos that my brother is trying to send me at that moment, so that i understand what is happening here in gomel, yes. so i couldn't open it. we tried in different ways, not through youtube we tried through vkontakte or some others, that is, there are no ways to get around to watch the video, they didn’t open anywhere, that is, those videos that really covered the events on the spot here or about the negotiations between the russian and ukrainian sides. they did not open, that is, some clippings were shown with those comments that were useful on west, yes but not hmm general am coverage. other channels, i didn't look for it, i can't

say anything about it, by the way, you also have your own quality mark among the russian- speaking population in germany, you know about it there is no lower back. and this bald man from belarus speaks about you. yes, i think it's cool if you are recognized among thousands of other people on youtube. well , he is interested in your topics. that is, of course, you will be recognized. yes, they know you okay , well, but this is the media . you have two older children. what is 20? uh-huh and the younger ones are 11 years old, that is ours goes to school, is the german school good there? here's how it affected her. this is the situation that happened to you for me. it was complete outrage when the military special operations began. e teacher in front of a full class of children. uh, i asked her

if my mother told me that russia, as an aggressor, attacked ukraine and what we think in this opinion at home, that is, in class, and began such an interrogation, they began to ask, yes, that is, public flogging. can you say so? yes, i consider this absolutely moral violence in this plan and the teacher. this is the authority figure for the child. and when a teacher asks a child with such a negative message, it is already clear. in what direction is the teacher thinking? in what direction does the child want to receive the answer. and if the child does not agree with this, if we hmm about something else at home, she has no choice but to remain silent at this moment, but because, otherwise they will simply throw tomatoes at her, so to speak, and already odnoklassniki and plus uh, odnoklassniki’s parents who then neuro- will begin to call and build a showdown. why are we here so we think, and why don’t we perceive

all the situations with ukraine in the way it is customary to perceive it now in the west, um, with the teacher, we talked plus, i must also say that the children began to study newspapers in february, just, that is , where what rubric, so that they understand where to look for what information, but for some reason the study of the press. mm, it happened only against the backdrop of the events in ukraine, yes, that is, the children were asked, uh, to cut it into a portrait of zelensky to decorate it, uh, to paint it somehow beautifully at their own discretion. and there was a portrait of e president of the russian federation vladimir vladimirovich putin e, which was initially crossed out with a red line already in the newspaper. and the children, sitting in the classroom, chanted that hmm insults towards the russian president. to which the teacher did not pay any attention. and so, while they peacefully painted a portrait of zelensky in rainbow colors. my daughter cut neatly red lines from the portrait of the president of russia

and glued them neatly together. why, what did the whole class resent. how did it happen and only two children came to her defense? yes, what is it opinion? leave her. and the whole class was outraged. yes, i was very disappointed in europe and the west in that, uh. freedom of speech , there is no democracy there, no matter how they say, i don't want my youngest child to be brought up there. the eldest was brought up there, thank god. she grew up to be a worthy person. by the way, about democratic europe and about it . hmm, raising children there. uh, it's not only political education. uh, it's gender. today, this issue is a very tough topic for a separate conversation. well this is a real problem. yes, they called me when my youngest was 5 years old in the kindergarten and said. change your gender. i say crazy she plays reacting like a boy. yes, yes, she

recognizes herself as a boy, and she plays more with boys. eh, make a boy out of me. i say wait for her 5 years. yes, it's okay that she plays with the boys. we'll wait, 15, then we'll talk, but i believe that uh, whatever god does, they stay boys. it's okay, but like, they read at the age of 5 that i'm like a mother, uh, obstructive parts of my child, because i don't want to change the gender orientation of my child. yeah, uh, hmm, just like a parenting question. about there any christian values ​​or understanding. children from the third grade are taught topics for adults sexual education yes, and all from the third grade. yes , it's so all uh, so everything is so detailed and so open, because it shocks me. and when my eldest was in the third grade. i tried to resist this even more by uniting with other orthodox parents, also muslim, who were

against this lesson. i hope then still naive that i can change something. yes, but i was told right away that you would go to jail for a month. if you don't want to go to jail and pay a 1,500 euro fine, uh, but your child will still attend these classes because it's part of the school curriculum. that is, it is promoted there. and hmm, that is, it is said, this is normal. you can do this by changing your sexual orientation. gender also abortions, hmm. i do not want my child to grow up in such an atmosphere, right? well, this is understandable, in fact, you know that such simple words. you and well, such monstrous things, in fact, how natural is what surrounded you. yes, this is actually obeyed for people who have this, thank god. no, neither in the country, nor in the environment, it is very scary to listen to your locality in which all this happened. well, what can you imagine, it is

big, how much is approximately the population where we live, it is a small village, there are 1,100 inhabitants of the whole school, and the school is located about 10 km in a town with 26,000. that is, it is, in fact, the regional center like that, right? well, that is, everyone knows each other, as it were, more or less. yes ok. tell us further what happened to this story with dismissal with criminal prosecution. and well, there really were people who were fired in your defense. well, after i was fired from my position and, uh, the criminal police, in particular, dealt with the fight against terrorism, uh. they searched my house. my employer sent me literally the next day a courier e with a letter stating that he was dismissing me without e content without deadlines, that is, usually 3 months, the term of such a valyria, three months of warning, as i understand it, yes, but here there was no observance at all on april 5, the courier brought me a letter

and fired me by april 7. that is literally three days. and no one was embarrassed that the law was violated, and they believe that they are right, because i will explain such a thing to you. e hmm obviously, that is, in the west, everyone is shouting about the war. yes, for them russia is known to be the aggressor. for them, obviously, a military special operation. this is a criminal offence. therefore, they do not think about going further, whether they are against the law or not. they accused me of all partisanship with criminal offenses. although it has not yet been recognized anywhere, and there has been no trial, so there is none anywhere. no international court has found russia guilty of this plus. uh, there's war on every corner. although this is a military special operation and not from russia or even from ukraine, there was not a single application to legally recognize this military special operation as a war, because, well,

for many these are similar terms, but e measures responsibility and consequences for certain actions. e. hmm in these two cases. they are cases, they are completely different, this was explained to me by my lawyer, who studied for a long time. uh, hmm, human rights in africa , that is, you still found lawyers, and this story is for itself, that is, by itself. eh, it was very difficult. i have contacted various authorities. i tried to find a lawyer. um, i was denied, first of all. i must say i called the embassy of the republic of belarus in berlin e. well, where also because i understand, citizen? belarus yes? i am a citizen of belarus. yes, i have belarusian citizenship. i never gave up on it. i still have it and it remains. i called the belarusian embassy and hmm asked me to consult, they offered a certain algorithm of actions and , uh, hmm consulting support, that is, in

this regard. they helped me uh hmm but i kept looking for lawyers. uh, hmm threw the cry can you say by all the friends in all social networks? people passed my key, that is, they put in their statuses. they passed on and after a while there a couple of weeks through acquaintances of acquaintances of acquaintances. uh. i managed to find two lawyers, which is interesting, and both are germans. and one of them even turned out to be the chairman of the belarusian german association for the identification of juvenile prisoners of concentration camps, yes, that is, he is such a sore, serious topic. yes? this is a serious topic, and the second one, who studied human rights in africa, immediately offered his help and a lawyer. i needed both labor and criminal right am. i already said, i filed a lawsuit against my employer for dismissal, which, by the way, we won. yes , they restored it after that. they offered me, but i

understood that there would be no life and opportunity for me to work in that society or among those colleagues who filed for me in the state security in germany, they would find reasons. dismiss at least for the insolvency of the position, we said that the case was filed against you, roughly speaking, the wording of the accusation of sympathy is a criminal offense, and thereby undermining public peace order in germany at the beginning of the conversation. yes. you said that you sang in the church choir, and therefore you had the opportunity to travel to germany. yes, from the very beginning. so you are orthodox. yes , today, to be a parishioner of the orthodox church in germany. this is possible. with such a discussion, it is possible, yes, it is possible, but hmm, we had a little difficulty, how would our little big priest solve this issue. we rent a room in a catholic church and at first a military special operation by a

catholic priest, and demanded from our father, so that he supports the entire sterilization of the west against russia. it must be said that our mother she herself is from here, that is, the minsk region. yes, the belarusian father is a russian german. and so they met. this is where he studied. am our father refused to support. he tried to diplomatically resolve the issue. and hmm, we were also threatened for a long time that they would not renew our contract and that they would kick us out altogether, we would not have a site. where to serve, that is, such a question also arose. although we are our parish. we are absolutely international, we are both russian and belarusians. and ukrainians are ukrainian refugees very often, but this did not stop the catholic priest, who wanted openly in public for our father to speak out against russia and belarus for the time being. here the passions subsided a little. yes, and you can attend services, right? okay let's that's a little bit too so

dismissal. in violation of the law, which was recognized by the court, after all, yes searches are a criminal prosecution. well, almost an attempt to take the child or attempts were all the same. well, if it were, then there is a threat was it anyway, because uh, i'm the only one who can raise a kid. em and so you're divorced. e at one time with her husband and the lawyer said, so that he does not give any guarantee that we will even win this case. that is, he is sure that under german law i am not guilty, i cannot be accused. uh, it was impossible not to open a criminal case against me. nothing to open a case against me, but it happened anyway uh hmm because certain people like my mayor or uh the general land attorney, ryanalds. uh, they just wanted to raise their career through this case, because it is very convenient at the moment

the case is open. public open trials to lynch a belarusian citizen for her commitment to her state. yes, even in this one. uh, in a job like this in germany. i mean , that would be the ideal case, and my lawyer said that uh, he doesn't give any guarantee that we will u win this case. moreover, he is sure that we will have to make some hmm concessions with the prosecutor's office, that is, to find me guilty, um, due to the fact that the prosecutor's office, perhaps, will not demand the maximum term for me, yes. under this article, the term was supposed to be up to 3 years in prison. so even if they put me in a pre-trial detention cell, then, and guardianship would fill my child here, it would not help that her sister is an adult. no, well, nothing at all, that is, i could not go anywhere. to give the child to your relatives or friends, uh, guardianship, you just took her. i mean, that's why you ran away. you can say that, right? yes, for

my first priority was uhm to keep my baby safe and the safest place in the world. for me it was belarus then. maybe i'll ask a provocative question. yes, well, everything around him anyway revolves in fact, with a stretch, but you can be called a fugitive from germany well, really, there is a slight difference with our fugitives. here 's what you said. as a lawyer , i understand that the law would not be violated from the word very well? maybe you can tell me what is the difference between you and our running already in the know that some people just left after the twentieth year. i have never betrayed my state. this is probably the biggest difference. am i had a simple example, i had many, many times the opportunity, um, to renounce the citizenship of belarus and take german citizenship

simply for the sake of circumstances for the sake of my womb, so to speak, yes, that is, there may be a more comfortable life in this regard, but for it was a kind of betrayal of me, and the worst thing for me in my life has always been lose yourself to step over your honor conscience for the sake of some unsteady values ​​of the year, ambivalent morals such uh hmm i didn't want this, probably, in this i see my difference to a greater extent. that is, i stay was, i stay in belarusian. look here . here we have a president on christmas yes, on the seventh, we were already here and at a reception for the old new year. he designated that the people who left. from belarus you can and should return. well, among those who escaped there are deeply repentant people, and they should not be thrown to the sidelines. yes, well i understand the position of a strong man is greater than that of a leader.

well, actually a father, yes. well, what do you think, and the authorities in the same germany they are capable of doing the same things, firstly, the speech of our president touched me very deeply. this is the true position of the father. no wonder we call it batik. that is, like in every family. uh , there are some misdeeds, sometimes our children do something wrong, but we try to understand them and, um, forgive them, that is, the mercy of our president and understanding of these people, it really touches um. i believe that in this regard i can spend such a small a parallel, like with the parable of the return of the prodigal son, that is, from the position of alexander grigorievich yes, and uh, here a man did something, but he was ill. he acquired a certain immunity. and he can now work for the good of his state. that

is, why give up a person. i fully understand this position. um, i generally believe that the state should be built on the same foundations as the family, that is, there are certain leaders. yes, uh, this is the hackneyed opinion of the last dictator of europe . . yes? e hmm it's very so strong. uh, hmm, such a strong position. i am also a dictator in my family, i understand, it’s fine, i just ascended all possible types and forums. and here uh hmm i think position a. our president. it is strikingly different from the position in the west. that is, there it is not represented at all. it 's impossible. i can't imagine anyone operating there. only the cold law, and even in my case, uh, pure lawlessness,

and not mercy and not warmth and misunderstanding. e for people who really repented and want return home. well, you know, i probably want to say my opinion, because the topic is very sick, in fact, it has now killed big problems. there they are really needed by all these tikhonov ladies and evenings to ensure their own well-being. because if they are not there, then no one needs the generals without troops, and no one will finance. but we see examples. i don't know if you have heard or seen this information to the point that, well, excuse me, they are provocatively printed. e books. yes , especially with photographs of those who went out on they print shares in order to cover up people as much as possible to limit their departure from poland from lithuania and return back to belarus well, then uh, use it as cannon fodder, so i don’t know if you are aware of it or not, now half of the kolenovo haru is there and so further. all

of these, in fact, are used in the most dangerous areas. they are dying, they are dying in dozens and someone will have to make up for this. and it will be at the expense of the fugitives. well, i hope the brains will be enough for some of me just not to fall into such a trap a second time. ok i can't help but ask. and a household question. yes, you were an ordinary citizen in germany with two children, working for the state, in fact, yes, in the executive committee, in principle, an average woman. it was precisely on such people in belarus that the technologies of color revolutions were completely directed. yes why did women in white go out into the streets in the first place to overthrow the regime, and then live like a european? that's about it. but what is real. well, you've lived there for over two decades. what was it really like to live there? that's how big the salary was. well sorry for such a question. it’s not customary for us to

ask him, but how much was left for the realization of such a german dream, and why didn’t you become your own? yes, i lived there for a long time. i know this life inside and out. many here don't know what european life is. uh, it's really hard to get a job, especially if you don't speak the language well. and even if you speak the language and even if you have an education recognized in germany, it is very difficult to find a job plus housing, only rented , that is, it is unrealistic to buy your own. the bank won't give you a loan. am plus em all nuances associated with life. there, our mentality , our psyche suffers a lot, being in the west. this one thinks i'll be full i'll have a cool tv i'll buy myself a car and i'll live cool no uh hmm everyone i know they all want back there, that is, they were brought

as children, but they don't feel like they belong there even after living there almost all my life about salaries. eh, you need to distinguish between such a nuance, our people. they are so trusting, they see. uh, job ads and hmm think it's the salary that's advertised. they'll get it on hands. yes, but here it is necessary to differentiate a little. that is, there is a salary. brutus. there is a salary, there is no salary. brutus. income tax and insurance are deducted. um, when you need to go to the doctor or some other things, and for this you already get your hands on it, and this is strikingly different from that declared brut. that is, the average salary was no let's talk about it somewhere 1.200 1.500. this is what was translated to me at first; i still did not have it on hand. no, the salary of a nurse is 1.100, somewhere so well from this money. you need to pay rent for utilities.