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belarusian tennis players set a national record for the first time in the history of the grand slam tournament immediately two belarusian tennis players will play in the semifinal matches of australia, but after victoria azarenka, irina sobolenko came out in 1/2, the fifth racket of the world met with the sixty-fourth number of the planetary report card croatian donna vechich, which as for victoria azarenka, in her quarterfinal match the day before, she turned out to be stronger than jessica of the figure from the usa and on january 26 she will play the final against elena rybakina from kazakhstan new year new impressions new emotions and travel on winter weekends stay at home with fragrant tea and under a blanket, and someone is looking for new experiences together we will build new routes with the lermontov house of culture. i met a craftswoman who makes dolls, amulets from the lyudmila lomaka collection of more than 200 guards
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, eyes run wide, we will visit unique places in our country, oh friends. i felt like i was in a real fairy tale. it's not just everything is done with the soul. and also very elegant and just have fun with a mitten. give it back. don't need it all lead three two. one look at the hands in the program the route was built on the belarus 24 tv channel. maybe i will throw a little firewood into this fire first. and then you will kindle it when you communicate with people, you have to catch who you are talking to. and to speak with them in a language that they understand and understand, these movements are similar to the work of a jeweler, but jewelers make beauty. and we save lives all in the interests of our state patients. why do patients travel? well, this is a brand brand of belarus -
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this is the quality of knowledge, understanding and arguments, and also questions that lie on the surface in the author's project markov nothing personal. don't miss new releases on channel belarus 24. belarusian winter little things and all the details what is breathtaking? some awkward but together they are one. together, not harmony looking at them you feel aesthetic pleasure. do you feel that belarus is closer?
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the sass program is authorized to declare i am the host nadezhda sas i welcome you, this program is for those who want to better understand what is happening in the world and understand how these processes events people will affect the life of everyone and the life of the country, and the main events of world politics this week. we will tell you right now. in germany, the minister of defense christina lambrecht, who was strongly criticized by the opposition for the sluggish development of the bundeswehr and clumsy public statements
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, resigned to her successors, a colleague in the social democratic party, the minister of the interior of the federal land. lower saxony boris pistorius 62-year-old politician is considered a close associate of chancellor olaf beans, while a number of pro-american media managed to accuse the new minister of russophilia. since in the past he allowed himself positive remarks about russian culture and the benefits of economic cooperation with russia. according to the world population review of an international non-governmental organization, at the end of 2022 , the population of india amounted to 1 billion 417 million people, which is 5 million more than in china in as a result, for the first time in several centuries, the celestial empire lost its leadership in terms of population, while, according to many experts. india will also outpace china in terms of economic growth, while remaining poorer and lagging behind technologically. in
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any case, according to the un, six out of seven inhabitants of the planet live in countries that cannot be attributed to the political west as a result of a helicopter crash in brovary , kiev region, the minister of internal affairs of ukraine and his first deputy died, more than 10 people became victims of the tragedy, including children, since the helicopter fell near the kindergarten building, the main version of the tragedy is a violation of the rules of technology by the pilots security, which led to a collision of an aircraft of creation, the head of the ministry of internal affairs became the first ukrainian politician or high -ranking official who died since the start of the russian special operation on february 24, 2022, and then his death is not related to the actions of the russian armed forces i
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will start today’s program, which is personally difficult for me, with a quote from an interesting figure from the time of the civil war revolution in ukraine, the hetman. pavel skoropadsky ukrainians have a terrible trait of intolerance and a desire to achieve everything and everything at once in this respect, it will not surprise me if they decisively fail. he who wants everything at once, in the end receives nothing. i constantly had to tell them about it, but it is unacceptable for them. they did not listen to the hetman 100 years ago, my compatriots are stepping on the same rake. now there is no readiness to reckon with the realities of the history of the economic structure, the composition of the population of ukraine, the unwillingness to take an elementary look at the map and see the objective limitation associated with it for the flight of geopolitical fantasy. led to the current tragedy about what people today
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determine the course of ukraine and those who make up the opposition to them will be discussed in today's program. i am glad to welcome oleg gaidukevich in the studio with me, deputy of the house of representatives of the national assembly of the republic of belarus, chairman of the liberal democratic party of belarus sergei borisovich stankevich , politician, candidate of historical sciences. hello, and oleg voloshin, a diplomat candidate of political sciences, is joining our broadcast hello, we are starting our program according to tradition with a blitz survey, in your opinion. will the acute phase of the confrontation in ukraine end this year sergey borisovich military operations on the territory of ukraine this year, most likely will not end, they will end next year? thank you oleg extremely hard. let's get some predictions. today we see that
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only belarus, russia and the ukrainian people, who are suffering, do not want war. unfortunately, western players want the war to continue, so it will continue oleg voloshin i am convinced that this year we, to unfortunately indeed. uh, we're unlikely to see the end. e conflicts in the sense that getting some kind of sustainable peace, at best , what can be said, is a kind of freeze. and that, as far as i understand, is unlikely to suit. uh, like big players, and some kind of, as they say this word, there are industries and so on, so this is also unlikely , uh, achievable and very difficult task, so, of course, it's unfortunate to imagine what else it is everything will stretch for 12 months psychologically difficult, eh, but common sense tells us that we need to be thank you sergey borisovich and how did you characterize zelensky's ukraine today? well, this is a militarized
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state, uh, imprisoned for war. uh, i'd say she's, uh, overfed. eh, hatred and hatred becomes. e, the main engine of e political e, i will not say that there are no grounds for this; indeed , war is always a tragedy and losses, and does not provoke hatred, but nevertheless, when all politics is built only on it, when hatred constantly multiplies and grows , when there is only the language of ultimatums and there is no willingness to look for alternatives. e naked force. uh, look for options for some kind of reconciliation, then this is, uh, well, the road to nowhere. this is an inevitable road to a dead end, so, unfortunately, ukraine is one-dimensional. definitely one thing. measured and miritarized and, uh, it
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cannot yet be a partner for peacekeeping dialogue. unfortunately mine. and the situation in ukrainian politics at the moment is more detailed in our story authoritarian tendencies in ukraine began to intensify several years ago, and many experts they attribute this to the presidency of vladimir zelensky since 2019, the ukrainian leader and his team have monopolized power, subjugating all its structures, and the law on oligarchs and corruption policies are just an attempt to limit the influence of the richest people in ukraine on the media and politics, which ultimately became a tool of power in the fight against the opposition ukraine posture sums. ukraine, without a doubt of superfluous modesty, is the leader of democratic transformations in the region. we adopted a law on de-oligarchization. we complete decentralization reform. we are building institutions of direct democracy against the backdrop of military ones. action. all decisions are made by the kyiv regimes. explains
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the special situation with such rhetoric, vladimir zelensky began a real war against the opposition in the country, 11 political parties were banned, including the opposition platform for life, everything was accompanied by numerous attempts to discredit their opponents, who advocate the normalization of relations with russia, thereby removing objectionable opinions from the political field it is necessary to control not only people, but and the budget, because the longer the military conflict lasts, the more billions of international aid come to ukraine in this regard, the kiev regime is trying to push local leaders into the background in order to maintain its own control over money and weaken any possible political rivals, and dear mr. president. today , your subordinates are trying to remove me from the administration of the city and install their man by appointing a military administration. there are even more disagreements in chernihiv. within the country arose after
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reinstallations in the root, then the positions removed the head of the security service of ukraine and the prosecutor general. in parallel , a large-scale investigation into the case of high treason and collaborationism began. a special place in authoritarian ukraine is occupied by censorship instead of many private channels, ukrainians see, in fact, only one television product, a telethon, unified news on all tv channels, but they practically show the same information, and it does not always correspond to those realities. , which see, people. uh, at home or in their city, one or the marathon and the european union are criticized, so the german ambassador to ukraine said that representatives of western countries have not publicly discussed with the ukrainian authorities for a long time the need to move to a more open space in the planet or the ether, however, according to experts. the kiev regime is not ready to give up its
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long-awaited control over television. well , authoritarian tendencies censorship defeat oleg’s position, i think many ukrainians who voted for mr. zelensky are not like that would like to see ukraine and it's not even the current situation, which is associated with hostilities, because certain trends were already visible in the first year of his presidency. please tell me how you assess the current situation in the current ukrainian government, because at some point the entire position that was presented to the pension platform for life by the same bloc of petro poroshenko and yulia vladimirovna tymoshenko all evaporated or united in the face of a common enemy but is it really in fact, everything is not so in fact, the tragedy of the current ukrainian government, the tragedy of ukraine , is just the same loss of sovereignty . independence of this country, the trouble of this government is
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its complete dependence, not independence. the opportunity to make a decision and this did not begin now, not only from the moment russia launched a special military operation. we saw this a few years ago, when it’s hard to imagine, for example, in belarus, i’m a belarusian politician, belarusian, so that our president would receive a call from the white house from the united states and say, that this attorney general shouldn't exist. well, we remember the story very well, how biden recently boasted that he flew to kiev for 3 hours in order to remove some official, that is, ukraine is not able to make decisions on its own, not about peace, not about negotiations. there are no other questions. this is a tragedy, everything follows from this, the rest and the war and the continuation of hostilities and the situation in the economy, because over the years over e. for the last 8-10 years, everything has been sold out and where they have been sold. they are for the ukrainian people. i would really like to be owned earth. uh, ukrainians have become factories of enterprises,
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but this is not true. unfortunately, people abroad began to own, and from this again it follows sh- here we are talking now about the ukrainian opposition, they began to destroy it not now, not a year ago, not two years ago and not in the fourteenth year. and even earlier, just in the fourteenth year, we saw him drinking facts, when people began to be killed for their position. and the fact that there is an opposition in ukraine, because a huge number of ukrainian people and politicians who wanted to be politicians come up with one program even let's not argue now, one of their programs is the independence and independence of ukraine, this is the right of the ukrainian people. we have always dreamed of one thing, that the ukrainian people decide their own destiny. decided it myself. how can he live he built his own country of belarusians. nothing else is needed, for which ukrainian opposition politicians are being destroyed, just at the same time for one good word about russia for the west
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, ukraine is needed only for one thing and do not care. how ukrainians live they do not care about democracy freedom? that's what they said in the story that the europeans are worried that they have one channel, yes they don't care. how many channels are there? it's a scam, they don't care. these are the words of the word fornication lie europe does not care about the elections in ukraine in belarus in any other country it was necessary to turn ukraine into an anti-russian springboard and use it for this. why am i so emotional value, because not all twentieth year turn the same. that's all. yes, with us already now on skype as the member of the european parliament miroslav rodachevsky informs me, what is your impression of the ukraine that is now on at the moment, it is present in the information space, because today, from the lips of the president, representatives of the authorities
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call to fight to fight to fight, and we hear this from european leaders as well. and by the way, just a few days ago , an article by viktor medvedchuk was published. and for the first time, calls for peace came from the lips of a ukrainian politician. i remember from july 17, 2019. he was me in the past. it was interesting to know them. i spoke. i can now say that victor mchs is his defender's platform. this is history will speak. it was all right. because when ukraine thinks that they are fighting for independence and independence. this is mistake. on my own
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is extremely rare to hear such a position from the lips of a member of the european parliament sergey borisovich but, do you think that not so long ago, commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine valeriy zaluzhny met with the head of the joint chiefs of staff, a step by the general miles, that 's what such a meeting says. and what do you think, how stable is the position of mr. zelensky now and whether the chairs under him will shake, because, too, after all, there are certain plans, certain proteges that are beneficial to the same western partners that ukraine will now actively support. well, the head of the joint chiefs of staff of the american general miles is, uh, a very authoritative person. uh, in the united states, not only in military circles. uh, he has a complicated list corresponding to him in many wars and participated from
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the point of view of the american state successfully uh. well, he is also such an e, a kind of e reference point for the american deep state for this american intelligence- defense community, which does a lot to manage without coming to the fore of america's political strategy like that. eh, this is the mile. recently, as they did not give, as a couple of months ago. he was just being critical . uh, to kiev, he believes that the language of ultimatums, uh, is an attempt to achieve. as you referred to skoropadsky, you brought to this status everything and immediately an attempt, uh, to realize some, uh, incredible plans that do not come true, that it is bad, that it senselessly prolongs the war, that the use of extreme
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methods and the death of people is a tragedy, if they are victims in the name of a meaningless goal, then this is bad for any state or any political leader. uh, it was this same general who advised kiev, uh, to take some more realistic position and understand that it is necessary to turn towards the world, even if putting forward some realistic positions and demands. here. now they have met the world is already impossible, because zelensky is the personification in this zelensky’s militant rhetoric is currently demonstrating the same intransigence that we talked about and uh, he continues to use the language of ultimatums, but as it is said in the article that you mentioned here and the author, who is viktor medvedchuk uh, in the recent past even uh , member of the ukrainian parliament. uh, the leader of the positional party, who took second place in the
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last elections that took place, uh, in ukraine, so, uh, in his article, he what does he say there that there are two ukraines in fact in fact, there is one ukraine that is anti-russia forever, which will never come to terms with this. hmm, the existence of russia is nearby, and there is another ukraine that, on the contrary, believes that it needs to be next to russia and in the world with russia, and now, this is the most different ukraine so far. e is hidden. she kept silent about it, she was overwhelmed by the existing circumstances. and by the way, and the repressive policy, too, but this is a different ukraine, e. hmm there is nowhere to go . she is not buried. and she might be now uh and after that signal that medvedchuk’s article was, maybe, the voice is starting to try, it is starting to try to organize itself, if the movement for peace for the
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peaceful coexistence of two fraternal peoples of two fraternal states arises in ukraine and even more, if this movement is supported by a similar movement for peace in europe, then we will seriously change the current situation is extremely dangerous. we are now in the middle of an escalating war in europe for the first time since the second world war, and so far there are no forces that would hold back the escalation and only this is the most peaceful movement, first in ukraine a. then maybe in europe as a whole it can become an obstacle to the dam for the further escalation of the european war and in the continuation of your words. i would like to tell in our story about the articles of viktor medvedchuk, which amazed many by the fact that calls for peace are heard from the lips of a ukrainian politician. more details in our story. the real
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surprise this week was an article by viktor medvedchuk, which he published in izvestia, many experts believed that after arrest and captivity politicians will disappear from public space for a long time. however, after long months of silence, the chairman of the political council banned ukraine from the party. finally, he spoke about the situation in the country. i think it is important to work on the peaceful future of ukraine now, it is necessary that all opinions be heard , including the opinions of such politicians as viktor medvedchuk, who delivered his extensive article, should by no means be excluded from the discussion. some opinions, giving priority only to certain positions, ukraine built on such principles does not be democratic in the first place, according to medvedchuk. the solution to the conflict lies in the recognition of russia's interests and the eu must stop supporting military action. in ukraine, otherwise the conflict will grow and spread to europe itself. we
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remember very well viktor medvedchuk's peacekeeping efforts, but his plans were based on the minsk agreements. he believed that there were real intentions to give autonomy to the donbass within ukraine, but as we recently learned about the angel itself. merkel western elites, never considered the minsk agreements seriously, but considered them a trap for russia, obviously the world is not what the smell is striving for, they support the government in kiev and do not push it to a peace agreement. and although they, as they themselves admit, win the war with russia and therefore medvedchuk's peace initiatives that could be successfully implemented. as a result, they turned out to be rejected precisely because then and now the west needs not a compromise, but victory over russia, which i consider unattainable, which means that we can expect an endless war medvedchuk also replied that many ukrainians are also for peace. they do not support zelensky in his striving for military triumphs, however, in order for people to be heard, a political and peaceful movement without the participation of
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western countries is needed here, i see such a sober , simple, murderous analysis of these processes that any sane person would. uh, you can say, only yes , always, it is, and he speaks openly about what 90%, but, unfortunately, everyone who is. now at the elite feeder they can’t allow myself to say this, because the feeders are not only other state bodies in germany in this vein. and as soon as a person goes on camera, he becomes such a person. analysts and
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hope that he will continue, well, will not leave the fight for justice and for a better future for our all peoples, leading the european. as you can see, medvedchuk's political career began back in 1998, when he became a deputy of the verkhovna rada, and after 4 years he took the post of head of the presidential administration of ukraine following the results of the 2019 elections of the year, the opposition platform for life party, created on the initiative of viktor medvedchuk, took second place, becoming the main critic of the authorities in parliament. after this medvedchuk, his party faced real political persecution in 2021, when the rating of the life-long life exceeded the support level of the ruling party by 5% zelensky in violation of the constitution, by his decrees , he closed tv channels associated with medvedchuk and imposed sanctions against him and his wife, and in may last year, ukrainian, the court sent the leader of the opposition platform party for
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life under round-the-clock house arrest in april 2022 he was detained by sbu investigators on charges of state change in september last year viktor medvedchuk was included in the exchange of prisoners with russia and expelled from the country, and already at the beginning of this he was deprived of ukrainian citizenship and the mandate of a people's deputy. oleg, i am convinced that viktor medvedchuk's article was read in many government offices in different countries, and many who do not dare to speak today about peace and the peaceful solution of the conflict breathed a sigh of relief that such thoughts began to sound from the mouth of a ukrainian politician? what reactions do you think this publication caused, perhaps you even know about some of them. first, of course, you need to understand that the most convenient concept for the party of war today in kiev and
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those who support it in the west is the concept that today russia is fighting with completely ukrainian people and that we are talking about the task of destroying ukrainians, as such, and as soon as it appears, a gap in this theory, as soon as there is an understanding that, in many ways and not only in the strength of the connection between ukrainians and russians , which turns love into opposition into an element of civil confrontation, but also due to the fact that within the ukrainian society itself among ukrainians who really are e with such a very diverse society historically so formed e with different stories, different speakers in different languages, if the previous one has different religions and so on, that is, ukraine from the beginning in the ninety-first year was formed as a country in which it cannot be. uh, the dominance of one approach. here, as soon as it becomes clear. this immediately complicates the picture of the world and leaves. this fight is there, supposedly. there is some mordor against
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some warriors. sveta, it turns out that a, firstly, the question immediately arises that there were political forces and our political force in parliament was the second largest a and at a certain point even the first in ratings before the repressions were deployed, clear followers acted and simply for the fact that it is necessary to fulfill the minsk agreements, it is necessary to find common ground with russia well, warned that if this is not done, then exactly what began will begin and , in fact, no one wanted to hear my own thesis, which i repeatedly voiced that you like or dislike, but there will be politicians in kiev who speak out for good relations with russia or on the territory of ukraine there will be russian tanks. and when they talked about this earlier, that is, 2 years ago, they laughed at us, they said that this would never happen. today. when did russian tanks really appear, and they this is used as an excuse for a policy that warned them about it. to blame for this war, that is, we were made by the people who these tanks called, that is, not poroshenko, who, uh, first turned a
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small mess in the donbass into a full-scale war and did not end it for many years, not zelensky, who defeated poroshenko actually solely on the promise of this end the war, but turned it into an even bigger war. they are not responsible, but those like medvedchuk are to blame when there are others who said, guys, if you do not agree with russia, there will be a war. thank you sergey borisovich, but according to some experts, in general, the situation that has developed in ukraine for the russian federation was a trap that the smell effectively implemented. do you think it would be possible to prevent the fact that today we have such a military clash, which i observe with tragedy, being a christian pacifist by conviction. it was by no means inevitable. let me remind you that ukraine e received dependence e in agreement with russia at all not as a result of a revolution or a civil
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war or a national liberation war completely peacefully. e ukraine gained independence, we agreed on everything. in principle, we agreed, then, by the way, in the ninety-first year and regarding e crimea that we were not going to fight over it, it was e peace in exchange for broad autonomy. we have agreed on the black sea fleet. uh, by entering into a long-term military base lease agreement. uh, perfectly normal relationships developed consistently. nothing predicted war and did not push us to war. uh, until 2007. uh, the nato bloc suddenly did not decide that it would absorb ukraine and georgia, uh, up to this point, but even after 2007, even after that, i will remind you again. tenth in the eleventh year. hmm uh, we had a strategic partnership with the european union. we
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were preparing for the abolition of visas with the european union, we entered into negotiations on this, we had a partnership program. for the sake of peace with nato, we conducted joint exercises, that is, there was no preparation for a long-term war on the part of russia, all this no time was kept and hmm where did the war come from ? really. it was completely artificially introduced into our relationship. really. eh, the state of war is unnatural for the russian and ukrainian people. and therefore, on the contrary, it is quite natural that not all ukrainians, but like the idea of fighting to the end to the limit, to as they say, the destruction and dismemberment of russia, er, by many radicals. now it is pronounced there is no possibility there will never be and no one can ever fight. e with history from geography is impossible at the same time just take ukraine and transfer it to
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north america, placing it in the space between canada in the space that is comfortable for someone between canada and the united states of america ukraine uh, where it is and uh, it will have to live next to russia for centuries and build relationships necessarily on the terms of a peaceful, mutually respectful existence in such a way that no mortal threats to russia ever arise from the territory of ukraine. eh, there's a conditional force for that. and for this now it is necessary that sober voices sound and within ukraine, and uh, it is still very important that europe also has its own european peace party. well, by the way , alikulevich, you perfectly understand that for the republic of belarus, history, modern ukraine - this is a history of mistakes and the words of leo nikolayevich tolstoy are remembered , we can’t come to anything else but to destroy each other, no matter how regrettable all
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this is sounded, but it's a fact. in your opinion , what are the main mistakes that are important to make and, in general, to note their presence of these mistakes for any state, including for republic of belarus, you as a belarusian politician, what do you see as the main key for yourself. you know that we are united by all europeans, ukrainians, belarusians, russia, ordinary people, we all want to live normally , live peacefully without war, so that children go to school normally, so that the mother does not receive a summons that her son is dead, everyone wants it. and now they don’t hear these people, when a german deprives medvedchuk of his citizenship, a pike is deprived of citizenship, they shut up the mouths of thousands of ukrainians who think the way he is amides and pike - this was a moderate oppositionist. and those who thought more radically, according to the kyiv authorities.
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they were killed, destroyed, unless someone forgot the house of trade unions in odessa i will never forget my grandmother sobes for me, odessa this is my hometown . now about mistakes. first mistake. the fate of the country should never be decided on the street, the street is always the collapse of the country and not the fourteenth year. for me, the first step to the collapse of ukraine ukraine occurred when there was the third round of the illegal presidential election of yushchenko yanukovych, then it all started on the streets, and the second was a terrible tragedy. it's a loss of sovereignty what our lukashenka always says is what he always fought for, which is the fate of the country. you must be in the hands of the country and its people. why does belarus not succumb to provocations today? why is belarus an island of peace today? why today belarus is the guarantor of peace not only in the region, but in the whole of europe thanks to us now europe is not blazing. by the way, because
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lukashenka is independent, this is our strength, but in europe, this is what medvedchuk first wrote, what we heard today from our colleagues on skype, the voice of the world is just his they shut up, as they shut up they remove the freedom of the press. there is no freedom in europe, today europeans live in an information bubble, where they are told that you must endure all this, because otherwise putin and lukashenka will come and destroy europe, and this is a lie, we do not need this europe we want to trade with you and to live and another axiom that i will support my colleague. here is one thesis, but it is very well suited for europe, there will never be a strong, calm independence. ukraine without friendship with russia and belarus well , it's impossible, because we're next to impossible. this is that you will fight for 100 years so the country will be destroyed; there is no such thing and you will not fight for 100 years. everything will end faster and europe will not be strong until there are normal relations with russia, when in europe they will understand that the americans have
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started everything with the sole purpose of weakening russia to weaken europe , and they succeed, sergey borisovich e. i already remembered. uh, the minister of foreign affairs of the russian federation, mr. lavrov, and his statements that there is no point in holding negotiations with ukraine now, and if we agree on something, then there are exclusively with ukraine’s western partners who directly make key decisions and once again emphasized that in march there were all chances for the end of the conflict and ukraine was almost ready to sign a certain truce but the west. basically, these were the actions of the uk not allowing. to do this today, russia no longer wants to talk with ukraine, because it does not see its independence. what oleg valeryevich is talking about, how far the west can go for it, because. naturally. now they're talking not a word about ukraine without ukraine although i remember very well that for a long time,
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just everything was being decided on the fate of ukraine and whether it would be a battlefield or not? just without ukraine, now such a shifter, profitable, was fully formed by a certain participant in march of the past year. uh, the treaty was even initialed by both sides, which allowed us to get out of an acute phase war. then indeed the ukrainian side then withdrew from further negotiations. well, to my regret, now it is all the same. uh, i would, uh, not fully agree that negotiations are impossible. uh, it's about what, uh, and even with ukraine it's possible. the point is to formulate some. objective some reasonable achievable start pointless to talk about when hmm know comes forward. and how is it designated as? eh? shout uh, crows kar. uh, it means that this is capitulation, uh,
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which, uh, spills out, uh, into the restoration of the borders of the ninety-first year, and into repression in relation to almost everything there, and to the political class of russia and into reparations. here, uh, about this plan. really. i do not see any realistic program for negotiations. as for any more realistic plan. uh, you can without ultimatums without preconditions, after all, negotiations are starting and, you know, i have a dream. i was thinking just now, when hmm, our conversation was unfolding here. well , what a dream i have, according to various estimates , about ten million in russia, uh, russian citizens who have relatives in ukraine, about 10 million - these are separated families, part of uh, in ukraine part of russia, can you imagine how deep they all are are experiencing. this is how i picture myself. now, if the russian part of the family and ukrainian. here they would come from both sides of
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the border. we would have met there, and hugged and said everything stop. no, but the negotiations are two words. here. uh, when you cannot say that you are for the war, in fact, what is happening politicians in the modern world can not say, i am in favor of the war. he can’t say so for this, then you have to carry nonsense, but some conditions that cannot be met. that's when the politicians start to speak, but in real conditions, when there will be peace, but i supported, in belarus, a huge number of people who have relatives in ukraine, a thousand ukrainians. now belarus has found shelter here blood. and it will always be like this, it will never be different in belarus. here it is let the whole world listen. of course, sergei borisovich touched me, but with your dream. of course, i would very much like it to come true oleg please tell me if you believe in a diplomatic settlement of the conflict,
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because at the moment it looks like something absolutely fantastic and hope for a change in the rhetoric that is inherent in the ukrainian government today. well, it seems to me that it’s already impossible to form, uh, a union state, but if we look in historical terms, uh, then uh, the role of ukrainians in what was there the empire of the russian empire, then it transformed the soviet union - an unprecedented , that is, in fact, the ukrainians have always been the second people of the empire, which is not just contrary. there it is said that the nationalists were not oppressed for the most part, but they were the builder of this empire from feofan prokopovich, one of the teachers of peter i yes, there is leadership. cannons, uh, of the soviet union under brezhnev, uh, the huge role of the ukrainians was in all the achievements and to separate where there is someone, for example, korolev was born and zhytomyr launched a person into space. yes, gagarin, uh,
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the russian flew, but naturally, one without the other would not have taken place even today, again, russia, belarusians are connected states. this is the will of the belarusian russian people, but if we look at the number of ukrainians, which are today. these are not just relatives, but just ukrainians. there are many with ukrainian passports, which today are in the territory controlled by moscow, there are more of them than belarusians. that is, today it stopped for today, uh, 10-12 million ukrainians are in the controlled maritime territory. this is the second nation. uh, in russia, uh, this is the second people of russia . i'm not talking about the fact that there is valentina matvienko, speaker of the light of the federation, and many others in top positions that are technical in ukrainians. and therefore, in this sense, a settlement between russia and ukraine is possible, simply as a settlement, for example, between, say, russia and china, two completely separate civilizations and cultures. here, of course, we need to talk about that, and i was talking about this all the logic from putin's article on this topic, which he wrote
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even before the concentration began, and so on, and medvedchuk also formulates what he did, this is as honest and correct as possible. previously, us what was the mistake. we said there anti-russia, pro-western, ukraine yes, and there is a kind of neutral multi-vector ukraine that, as it were, is friends with everyone at once, but this ukraine that goes next to russia, ukraine, there is sidorovka bogdan khmelnitsky korolev and others who, together with the russians , did something such ukraine as would not. and as if it disappeared altogether, as an option, so today we are talking about the fact that anti-russia needs to be opposed about russia, which will be formed by ukrainians, who consciously consciously recognize themselves as there will be no other option for authors, like belarusians today, for the most part, with the authors of a certain common future , there will be no other option, that is, it has been formed again to settle everything at the level of some neutral ukraine, which after some time will again be impossible to build anti-russia out of it. i am sure that
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russia will not agree to this, we are talking about how, in the long term, to resolve the issue in such a way that today belarus is, and not a threat, at least, but in fact a partner and friend of russia and together with russia sees its future, so is that other ukraine that will be built. let not in the entire territory. this is a different question, this is a matter of discussion, but i’m saying this new, absolutely honestly and objectively, they throw stones in kiev as much as they like , in fact, well, for the people of kiev, in principle, inclusion on a belarusian tv channel is already a crime. and this is actually, and so i say. as it is objectively, uh, the point is that whatever ukraine it is, it should be ukraine that cannot, you know, pretend to be neutral today, a tomorrow it will be kerosene again. and what about the long-term formation of a partner from ukraine like the one that is today, belarus for russia. you see, the time for decisive action. yes, sergei borisovich, ukraine must
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cease to exist. uh, the prize of the prey that two opposing hostile blocs are fighting for is to get away from this monstrous role, because forever sitting in some trench on the border of two warring blocs that are fighting for you, you can if you're lucky, you can survive for a while, but you can't prosper but to build a prosperous state. in such a state. it is impossible to stop this enmity and stop being a prey, stop being a prize, which, well, someone from outside must come and win. this is indeed a responsible historical choice that the responsible national elite of ukraine must make, which formation, which i hope is still ahead after a short pause. we will return to our discussion again. stay with us. authorized to state the topic of the program is
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another ukraine opposition to the war has always been the republic of belarus with the initiative with calls for peace has always been a platform, by implementing the same minsk agreements, ukraine could escape what it has now. how do you think. will minsk be able to help the way out of this crisis, help stop the war, which helps, that is, in general, throughout all the years, belarus has done everything to ensure that there is peace in ukraine and that pain is built from russian relations, alexander is more than lukashenka, our president, turned a blind eye to hostile rhetoric. e on the sanctions that were imposed by ukraine against belarus this is not a matter for the kiev authorities. he does this for the belarusian and ukrainian people. he always said that our relations, these human family friendly ones, are more important than politicians. he always said this. now, about specific
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actions in the fourteenth year, belarus did a lot to sign the minsk agreements , when someone starts to argue that it was possible to sign anywhere. these are people who are far from politics, who do not understand the essence, there is no process, it was impossible to sign anywhere and further events. it was minsk that proved this, and it was the mines that played this role and the president of the country next. uh, when the military special operation of russia began, i want to remind you that the negotiations were again in belarus and belarus was excluded from the peace process not by the will of ukraine and not by the will of russia, and russia and ukraine were the platform. minsk actually was advantageously removed. the west the west opposed this, because you know what could happen, they could agree, but the west did not need it, so they removed belarus from this process. and then, throughout all these months, an attempt to draw belarus into active hostilities, uh,
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provoking it continued throughout the entire period, moreover, at a meeting with lavrov, the president of belarus said that it was an amazing thing. we perfectly understand who is pushing ukraine to this today, how it is acting in belarus now. it does not succumb to provocations. and when you ask a question. is it possible that belarus will do something for the world, it is now doing everything for the world that we are building up a joint grouping with russia that we are strengthening the border that we are preparing our armed forces not for war, it is aimed at peace, everything that we will do now, we want to avoid war and make ourselves stronger, but not once has it been said that belarus does not take part in a special war operation, which is another task. this is the protection of the allied perimeter of the border. we will never give russia. we will never allow a stab in the back under it, because it is our duty. but the most amazing thing is that it is beneficial for the ukrainian and the whole of europe and the european community, because today
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belarus is on the way to unleashing a huge war in europe and wishing to unleash it, unfortunately, enough. recently, a meeting was held in minsk between the minister of foreign affairs of the russian federation sergey lavrov and the president of the republic of belarus alexander lukashenko . what is there, where russia is for us, for russia of belarus, we are doing and about any contacts that we have with the west and others. we say that russia has never been against the world, please, let's negotiate. we are ready to participate in this, there should be no doubt about it. if anything, then it is necessary from our side, and we can do it. you know well what we can do.
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let's just say we'll work together. hand in hand, we will not twist something here, and today security for us, not only for russia, is even more important for us, you know the plans of our western neighbors, not only ukraine, uh, they are trying to use ukraine against belarus, but what amazes me and pleases me , surprises about ukraine is still holding on. she does not go to provocations against belarus. although it is actively pushed by our westerners. neighbors also know who, therefore, we have to endure this time, but the fact that we will endure the past 22 years has shown here that we adhere to the same positions. well , we are forced to make our program the final word. i would like to provide e ukrainian politician to a ukrainian diplomat, please. i would really like to
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really thank my belarusian colleagues for everything that was done is done to ensure that there was peace in ukraine. uh, but uh, definitely we all remember how in one of our interviews. uh, the president of belarus said that he has ukrainian roots, and in any case, it’s not only for him, because a neighboring country, and in many ways, uh, a close people, uh, and uh, in fact , in the current conditions, but colossally important. e in my understanding. eh, indeed. eh, such presence is visionary. uh, that is, the ability to think for years to come, not to be plasticine, like an actor standing head of state, who is like a good actor is a convenient plasticine in the hands of others, you can mold anything from it. all the time we sculpted the president of the world out of it in our heads; from it, the president of the war very quickly blinded the request. he played that role quite convincingly, and this role plays quite convincingly. that's what to really believe, nobody knows, and i think he himself, well, but there is from politics, then, of course,
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including the president of belarus, who understand perfectly well. and what should they think not about today, tomorrow about what will be in years, and in this sense, even the last meeting with the laurel, when the thesis was voiced that we are talking about ukraine not being a source of threats to belarus and russia in the long term, and this is a very important signal. if, in ukraine, in kiev, someone else has common sense, they should perfectly understand that at least what i was there, no matter how much i didn’t want to go there or how much i didn’t want to, but even here is the most conservative scenario, at which more or less remains, as there is one basic moment, the roof cannot have a term military-political bloc hostile to belarus and russia in this sense, otherwise not only russia but also belarus will be forced to make all the necessary efforts, in all planes i will not detail in order to prevent this. if ukraine wants to hear it and does not want to get an additional 1,000 km of line. front they
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should have thought about it today. thank you, thank you very much to all the participants of today's difficult program, and it is clear that while the war is going on and people are dying emotionally it is difficult to talk about political prospects, especially for me as a ukrainian woman. but on the other hand, without moving to a conversation in a political plane. we are doomed to discuss only the bloody front-line chronicle. and at the end. i would like to recall a quote from another hero of the same turbulent events a hundred years ago , the first president of the ukrainian people's republic, mikhail grushevsky, ukraine's misfortune is that it is run by those who do not need it. i hope this changes, thanks. well, now sas is authorized to declare. today's ukraine is not only zelensky's ukraine
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significant sporting events in the context of the whole world our girls performed very worthily 4.10.12 places the level of competition in russia you know today what therefore, we hope that these are promising guys. they will in the future show the result of the key news and sports facts of belarus as the flagship of the belarusian football. and this, despite a significant renewal of the composition and a change in the coaching bridge, the formation and development of a new generation of belarusian athletes. we today we can pay more attention to our hockey, so today we are attracting more children, 40
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