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but if he is certified, for example, uh, minsk world or minsk overview or, for example, each guide has a conflict, a small specific area is small. he can even get up 10 of these excursions. it already depends on the guide, how professional he is, but a beginner always starts with one tour. and then already. hey, that's where the taste comes in. and likes and dislikes and what kind of looks observes that for a tourist it is interesting and therefore one thing is preparation, another thing is certification. here is the national tourism agency. they are like once again, they are working on this issue today. they stand tests, but they do monitoring and visit the excursion, because it is a control purchase. yes, it is very important, because what kind of information is generally given to tourists, both our and foreign tourists who come. here it is very important not to distort the role and historical memory and reality. some cultural facts. we shape the image of our country. and
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the guide is such an intellectual who, in general, and including will be able to answer any question and explain some important moments. at the moment, there are more than 140 approved texts and control charts for excursions. that is, it is essentially the algorithm of the tour guide. where? where are we going recommendations on logical transitions between information blocks. um, well, this does not mean that you can not prepare your own text, but to protect it for sure. it is also necessary to give a control text and an e -technological map so that the attestation commission can evaluate them; a review of this text is also required so that there is an additional third-party opinion and, again, those the texts that we have in the database, this does not mean that they just need to be learned verbatim to advise, and the guide prepares his individual text on the basis of the control, that is, in his own words. ah,
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this material retells, again it is clear that the preservation of the main historical facts is a lot of work for public funds. for just the same maintenance of this base for the publication of methodological manuals on various types of tourism and for an inclusive output and for industrial tourism , a recommendation to those enterprises. who would like to uh, it's also work out. and in this case. uh, museum tours of businesses. this is already their patrimony, that is, they are developing them after the rails. yes, in our hands. this is exactly what is behind the walls of the museum, or any particular enterprise. well, it's a really big block. thank you very much for a very interesting conversation. i hope that each of us will discover many new interesting places in belarus. thanks a lot. thank you.
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my name is pavel prokhorenkov. i'm from donetsk i would like to talk about the events in ukraine and how i ended up in belarus
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hello on the air program say, don't be silent in the studio svetlana smolonskaya and tatyana shcherbina and today pavel prokhorenkov is our guest. hello pavel hello in our studio, you became famous after attending a hockey match with the participation of the president of belarus alexander lukashenko . let's remind the audience how it was. we see how you are met by the audience and
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the president applauded you and all the audience also greeted with all their hearts from the bottom of their hearts. what did you feel at that moment? yes, this is an indescribable feeling, to be honest, well , maybe i still haven’t moved away from this at the very moment. yes, most likely, yes, it’s not explainable, to be honest, if you feel it, then how would you understand, but you can’t really tell how it was. please tell us how you ended up at this match, someone contributed to your meeting with the president, they invited you to a hockey match. well, this is not the first time. in general, i wanted to shake hands with the president and take a picture like that it turned out that they swept yes, they swept. he has been in belarus for more than a month.
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where has it already been done? yes, i liked it. yes, it's quite interesting to look at the history of what happened. well, in general, in belarus , they knew something before they came here. well, no, just like a little bit according to the stories of my grandmother and that's it, and your grandmother herself comes from belarus, gomel region. well, i don’t know, now there is no power, there is no power of caress. she was born there, so, and then, as it were, she moved, donetsk, but she spoke a lot for belarus, i won’t say. why she moved there. i didn’t ask her this question, and she didn’t tell. well , most likely due to the fact that i went to study and sort of moved there, but let's maybe tell our viewers about your story. uh, what happened to you in 2017. you went to fight for your native donbass, well, it's hard
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to say, most likely to defend. that will be right. and to be honest, when you took up arms, 21, i was aware of where i was going, what i was doing, and throughout the year. i thought it over with my grandfather, how would he approve of it, and then went. i’m not very honest, well, what motivated you, that is, that’s the motivation. what was the motivation? the fact that civilians are dying, this is the motivation that they ca n’t stand up for themselves, i decided that it’s enough to wait already, that is, it was necessary to take a courageous decision, yes, and act, but one of your close friends has already taken to at that time, participation in the defense of donbass well , there are no friends. from close relatives, too, how i studied, here in the technical school there as classmates yes, they kind of went, well, you were
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very young 21 years old and you probably had no military experience. yes, i will say more that most of the military personnel who at that time were in the armed forces. donetsk people's republic yes, you are fighting, well, as military experience, not even that experience, but there was no military profession. there, ordinary citizens were miners, teachers, sellers and porters to handle weapons. not very honestly, i say, you were taught , they showed you, of course, we were trained. well, they taught and we ourselves studied literature, read, got injured, well, almost a year ago in april 22 years old. yes, on this day, remember, yes, how it happened, you performed a combat mission. we ran into an anti-tank mine. i threw it off the car, and looked into another. well, as the bone
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broke the vessels, it also broke. eh, the blood looked, as if not naturally, to the side , let's say so. well, well, i suspected guys. they bandaged it for an hour, they took it to the hospital, they did the operation, then they took it to donetsk because it took a long time. transportation was, but well, not quite managed to save, right? ah there same arrived mother, pancake. well i'm on the sound, when it was already brought to donetsk. i called. um, to my mother, that i am in some kind of hospital. she came and wanted a second one. how to, well, cut it off, but she didn’t let it say while you’re doing it, if it doesn’t work out there, there, too, like pollution was a laceration of the foot , said that it won’t let you do it and that’s it, if it doesn’t work out then yes, well, here. as if they saved the second leg psychologically after
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the injury, i remained the same person as i was and dearly not. it didn’t break me. you can even tell so forces to move. then the donetsk doctors saved your life, and in the same hospital you got married. let's watch a short video. hooray it was created by your solution. eh, well, that is, they immediately decided that i would tie the knot, or did hesitate a little. no, it's been planned for a long time. it's just, well, how it didn't quite work out, then a business trip, then something else. uh, plans broke down, so, but already there they decided that it was enough to postpone. well, yes, yes, thanks to the help of belarusian doctors, one
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leg was saved. how did you end up in belarus in donetsk also, as it were, undertook to collect a leg, well, because of the large flow of people , it is not known when it was, as if the doctor said that maybe a month, maybe two, then she called both in russia and belarus. and so i called the kazakov family dmitry yulia. here they are, as it were, cooperating with this fund and helping. so they undertook to find a doctor and that's it. then she listened to the rest, phoned the desk, he arranged the transportation. how would they carry, well, my mother was taking the children to competitions in gomel in my opinion, well, here i am let's say, they caught on, and already met already in
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belarus, go dima and yulia. so they took them to the hospital and put them in. well, they came often every day, practically rehabilitation. you were told by doctors or so far forecasts. uh, well, about another month and a half in the ilizarov apparatus and about 2 months in a plaster cast. well , then rehabilitation will continue, as it were, due to the fact that the foot has been immobile in the apparatus for six months. well, that's what i think, doctors say, and this one, well, they didn't tell me specifically. this is purely. my opinion due that she is immobile. it seems to have already fixed itself and it will be necessary to develop massagers in the future. well, the forecasts are generally favorable. yes, already, as if initially they were pleasant, you became friends, our relatives are friends more than friends. yes, excellent, in the meantime, the doctors fought for your health. you have a son, right? we even have a photograph
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right after the baptism, yes, and this is the same temple in which the ceremony took place. yes , absolutely right. well, he is a little to the right, where he was baptized, and this is on the territory of the temple located. in your future life, you are connected with belarus or will you still return to your homeland, they say, it is still difficult to answer. well , for the time being, we are here, and he would generally like to connect with belarus as his wife reacted. and to the fact that you are now in belarus, how did belarus accept it, and whether it accepted itself, well, it was originally. as i arrived unusually, of course, you joke with us calmness, you can go out into the street without fear of anything, i got used to it, of course. went calmly. quiet and already there is a feeling. here at home. yah
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how? well, here, as it also sounded at the beginning, yes before the broadcast, that my grandmother is from belarus, therefore, here, as if the roots of the belarus could always be, so to speak, a second home. can you describe, in general, in what conditions, uh, have you ever lived, but the people of donetsk have been living since 2014, when it was calm, when strong massive shelling was on video and that’s it. the rest is not transmitted what well, they look, but it is clear that as it arrives, there is destruction and everything else. and when you even hear this sound, or especially when you see it all, it's just hard. these events are 2014 maidan and what happened? why? well , we simply didn't want to, how donetsk didn't support the power that came at that
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time, how we would like an autonomous republic of this power. well, in kiev they did not want this. well, with this, the rebellion began slowly, not the rebellion against this government. unusual citizens came to donetsk to make provocations. that is, the same can be said, so the maidan was arranged in buses, they were brought and that's it. rest. even i don’t know now, of course, there are no videos of these on the internet but at that time there were when they, uh, from lenin square were caught up to kalmios down. yes, from the buses this is the right sector. well, i wo n't speak for it. who exactly was there? well, it’s just that there were such people who wanted, most likely, to raise a riot at that time in donetsk . to calm down, or something, the population, so that they accepted this power, which was at that time. and why didn’t the locals accept this power then, because it’s
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wrong. it was a coup. they just took on their own removed the president not for unknown reasons. they went out to the maidan hundred with weapons. yes, so far this is a case and not an investigation. no, it's been investigated. well, no one found anything, no one was punished. yes, well, the same punishment happened in odessa in may 2019. although the police were also there. this is all recorded and there are still these videos on the internet when the boss. odessa police stand and do nothing. pavel, well, recently russian actor dmitry nazarov spoke about the events in the donbass that have been happening since 2014. and here he is asks a question. or maybe there was no genocide, and everything was inflated so that you answered him in kiev, they wanted the population of donbass to simply obey kiev. but
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here, we simply wanted autonomy. they started all at once, it gradually started. eh, as it were, they also did not expect that the population would rise so much that they would repulse this all from the beginning. it's just, as if they were coming, like at the military, they just scared people so that they would run away and everything else. well, it wasn’t there that they conflicted with you, he initially undecided. there is no peaceful way. and when merkel allant poroshenko and putin gathered in minsk and signed the first minsk agreements, you had hope that you would still be able to resolve this peacefully, it still remains that it can all be settled calmly people. well, we just don't
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even see we don't see, let alone the residents of donbass. e desire, uh, the kiev regime and even more so the west and there is a constant escalation towards a peaceful solution to this conflict. or those but the supply of arms to kiev well, this is the government, it’s like puppets, there are certain people who manage it all, you can say so, give orders, they carry out, they don’t do it all themselves, as if they come up with it. and well, maybe they have some more advice, well, the presidents, for example, who tell him. and here he already makes a decision so it is better or not better advised. well, the residents of donetsk, who have lived for so many years in very difficult conditions, there are periods when there is no water, no electricity in the winter period of heat. no well about the internet, we can and say, it is already in such conditions. it's overkill,
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you might say. nevertheless, people stood up to defend their homeland and did not leave. well, most of the people. donetsk in general in donbass do not even leave their homes, what drives them, what motivates them to continue the fight not to give up, because this is their tool. they were born there, they don’t live their whole conscious life, how can you leave all this? well , some people leave, for example, it’s hard for me to understand why they do this? why are they leaving ? well, to perhaps, to secure your family of close relatives. yes to us already yes, to some. maybe there is nowhere to go because of this. there were no thoughts such that when it started, there was even the first shelling in order to collect things and leave somewhere. well, the young guy has his whole life ahead of him. no, where was he born in the summer. did your grandfather tell you anything
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about the war, or did he not fight? no, he did not fight, they were children with their grandmother, they were children in military conditions. they told you something. what exactly can you share? well, yes, the germans were advancing. well, grandma told me grandpa didn't say much. so they ran into the forest, it was artillery as preparation and counted, well, they sat on stumps in the forest and counted. how many shells flew there? how much back? but there, as the stories told me , i was wondering what it is? well, there is nothing good in this, it is absolutely not the way it happens in life, like in a movie on the screen, of course, and you yourself on the ninth of may. uh, we attended festive events dedicated to victory day. i won't say for sure. participated twice. this is most likely the twentieth twenty-first year.
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tell us a little about them, well for the equipment. for the performance of certain tasks, we had a military journalist, anna chizhlitash, a belarusian journalist in her ntv, and she went through such a military one. teachings at the base, special forces conditions, as close as possible to a real battle, when they shoot from everywhere. uh, somewhere, uh, lies rotting meat. yes, respectively, this here is the smell, this is the constant mm psychological pressure, too, and even i looked from the outside, i was very creepy. she knew it wasn't real. yes, that is she, too, was terribly meanwhile, and sometimes she hears the opinion that oh, i would now, well, get into hostilities. and here i
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would reveal myself. that is, some still have, and according to the films, yes, the officers watched the films and that's it. i want to be a fighting man, but war. it's not romance at all. no, this is a terrible thing ; there is nothing good here. and in the same program, anna said that war is most hated by military people, of course, fear in war. here at man yes why he is not afraid to die. it’s like a bullet will fly in or a shell will kill there and you won’t feel it, it hurts, it too. well, it will hurt further as you get up and go. but when close people die next to you, with whom you go forward, yes. that's scary, you won't get them back, you lost loved ones. well, it was probably the most difficult thing, then to meet with their relatives to communicate with the relatives of those
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who can no longer be returned. of course, this is not easy. we had alena levitskaya, she is a teacher a teacher from the donetsk school named after zakharchenko, the cadet corps, you probably know about this educational institution. she was brought here. here , again, thanks to the fund of alexei talai e guys, we are recovering. so she also told her story about how all these arrivals were before her eyes, how it all began, and how it all happened? duck is creepy for adult kids, it's even scarier some kids don't quite realize it yet . for safety. we didn't ride the entire line of buses, but there were seven of them. we were driving with a gap from a distance certain drivers drivers already know. well the data regions know how to go. and how to behave in the event of a situation. when, for example, shelling begins right now on the video, we were just watching a boy of one yaroslav, he arrived ; he was seriously injured in may. that is,
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he was walking home from his brother and a fragment hit a multi-storey building and the fragment flew into his neck, it turns out that the carotid artery miraculously did not hurt. ah here is, now he on restoration nabitatsii. just in the donbass - this is now superfluous. children. this is also the children of war we had, and the political scientist of politicians is visiting oleg gaidukevich. here he also travels to you and said that and the children think that the whole world is being bombed. here they are told. now there's going to be firing. here they are hiding there, let's say in the entrance, then the shelling ended. they go out to play again. these are the children of war needed. well, i'm in this and say that they perceive. how is that? well , for as long as it lasts, it 's completely normal, as if the shelling went on, they went on walking, that is, without fear of anything. you can say so. me here it was always interesting. it's clear. and why such hatred for the inhabitants of donbass i don’t know
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, they didn’t ask themselves how i could know what i don’t know, how could i know why they hate us. well, what to say in russian. in the language in which it is convenient for him all as far as i know, there in donetsk they constantly collapsed in russian and there is nothing terrible in this, no matter how there was no division, nothing. it didn’t start with her because, damn it, we speak russian, but because of what it’s more ambitious about what would not speak, most likely because of this is not in the language. no, of course, it's just like uh another one, like an excuse? i don't know in order to be able to hate well or something like that. let's take a short break from our telegram channel. say don't be silent. subscribe suggest us guests and ask your questions. we are in touch. topics that are difficult
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not to touch on and questions that are impossible not to ask. anna has recently become anxious people. more. do not find, downright, a massive epidemic hovering over any person what is called unarticulated anxiety. well, in general, our evil reaction is an emotional person. cheesy and responsible times, strange as it may seem, people are becoming kinder to each other comments and recommendations of experts who have studied the essence of the situation, a wonderful technique that i always recommend to clients. it is to keep a diary of feelings and emotions. that is, in a good way, anger is like mothers. that is, if i feel angry for me, this is a signal, either my needs are frustrated, or my boundaries, someone, uh,
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climbed up, read the proven ones, because here bloggers one after another, watch the project of the concept of harmlessness on belarus 24 tv channel. to send off our belonging to the people of varta , to hide our former relatives and traditions , we set off on an expedition along the kutkas of our ukraine to get to the place of pronunciation, we tried to drive 33 km at noon. i am sitting by the new polissya that we are treating the area with the name of an owl, the oldest cadets for everything. yes violated, as young. like old traditions, a new inhabitant of this
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minute on our tv channel. on the air say again, do not be silent at a party. we have a protector donbass pavel prokhorenkov. pavel well, let's discuss some news with you. just the other day, the russian ministry of defense reported on a blow deliberately inflicted on the armed forces with the help of the american, rszo haimars in the district and the hospital in novoaydar. it is in the lpr that fourteen dead and 24 injured people are reported the next day. well, more precisely, on the night of the next day, shelling of the kherson region on civilian infrastructure. again, uh, the russian foreign ministry called these and similar attacks grave war crimes of the kiev regime. well we know
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that this is, well, an isolated case of this happening due to the same day back in the west. uh, still no statements of no concern. well, no response at all. yeah, i mean, uh, those who died in the hospital. a new blow for them is not people it turns out that no, this is not the first time. that they are shelling kindergartens and schools and ordinary houses. well, as it is already completely normal for them, they say that we are shelling ourselves. well, we remember even the statement when the first shots were fired at donetsk, so that the kiev authorities themselves would declare shelling i blew up the air conditioner. yes, yes, there are such things. well, it's the west deliberately ignoring such things in order to expose the defenders of donbass as nonhumans on the other side. there,
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in general, everything is silent about this, they only talk about how the russian troops are. there, ukraine , let's say that, uh, some positions in some small settlement. uh, they occupied the house and began to deliberately fire at nearby, standing neighboring houses. although there, well, as if there were no russian military personnel there . here and on the internet, even here too video, there is a ukrainian journalist. i also wanted to make a report on how the russian military shelled cities. uh, she was told that it was the ukrainian military who were shooting at the camera . that is, the ukrainian army speaks from the other side, there are no russians there, the russian one is generally on the other side. well, this is what is called the information war, of course, but the same statements about i will teach,
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irpen, here is what is allegedly atrocities on the part of the russian army. i don't really believe in it. there. here is how russian columns, as if destroyed, are. that is how it is russia itself is shelling its columns. well, it's stupid, to be honest. for decades, the west has been building anti-russians out of ukraine, if you have an idea. why did they manage to turn some ukrainians into russophobes, but then donetsk lugansk is not, perhaps due to the fact that in different ways, how on different sides we are, they are on the other side they have more pressure from their side . well, that's not even pressure, but informational, this is it. well, because of this , it’s possible, that’s all, well, perceived is subject to that western influence, yes, and looks more to the west than to some east slavic ones. eh, their roots
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pay attention, most likely, they are. did you notice anything like that when uh? well, we will be much older with svetlana . uh, they even caught the collapse of the soviet union. we still remember those times when russian ukrainians were belarusians. uh, armenians, azerbaijanis, turkmens, and so on. we all lived in one big friendly country. and now, after the ninety-first year, when the soviet union collapsed, er, it gradually became. uh, noticeably, like belarus, they tried to tear it away from russia and ukraine with ukraine did it much. eh, let's say a shopkeeper. eh, well, you yourself noticed that from year to year there was some kind of anti-russian propaganda or you, but in the donbass we didn’t have anything like that. well, as they lived, they lived quietly normally. i mean, no one spoke. give up the russian language for you, look only to the west, stream to the european union, no. we didn't have that. well, how would you like to
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speak russian in russian, you want to speak ukrainian in ukrainian, i studied ukrainian school, then the russian school, as if everything was completely normal. at least, in donetsk, there wasn’t such a thing that you couldn’t speak ukrainian or russian there? no one said anything about this, as if it were there in the west, yes. i don’t speak russian there, i speak ukrainian, it’s like what language do you speak in such a language, and what does the language of teaching at school have to do with it? what language was it in? i studied at a ukrainian school, then, simply because it was far to go to school, my grandmother took me to her place. me transferred to another school. it was already in russian, of course, that is , some stereotypes were imposed, yes, but, and someone from well, maybe you have some information from western politicians or representatives of some international structures, visited ali angels. they
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know anything at all. i will not say, to be honest, because of this, i did not observe much.
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we got information. i met, at least information, because in the west they deny the very fact of existence in general. well, for this, too, they never said in their media, as it was not indicated that children died in the donbass. i have never found such information, that is, he deliberately hushed up all these facts in order to be monsters, uh,
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the same atoshniks. uh, well, and many other factors, too, they hush up. well, at the same time, the british television channel sky news e, reported, citing expert estimates, that over 40% of all ukrainian territories were mined as a result of hostilities. according to them , ukraine is the most mined country in the world. yes, i think it is. well like military action. one side is advancing to prevent them from going further by mining the territory. and somewhere they cleared a certain kilometer path, for example, and the rest of the territory remained mined, plus how many artillery shells e did not explode . yes, grenades are the same, as not always, they may work. and this is all, it seems to be lying in the ground, it is not known how long it will lie still and it is not known. yes
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how many more years? well, i'm saying that it is not known how much it is after all this, how much it will lie there, well, it will lie we remember before disposal. in the case of alexei , talent, many years after the end of the great patriotic war, it was there that he got it. as a matter of fact, but it 's actually very scary that no one is interested in the west. how will these people live in the future, these territories for them have such a feeling, what is it? well, they just need to be lit with napalm. this is how it feels. as for me, the world is just being redistributed, that's all, ukraine has simply become this territory, where is the case? yes, the battlefield is different, quite simply. i don't know what to answer here. because of what, why is all this happening the same way the soviet union itself collapsed. why because you see what america is there, it was scary because there is
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such a power. well, let's say that many americans conducted social surveys. yes, they were asked who won the second, well the great patriotic war, they say the americans, well the british, they say they say the british. it’s like they don’t even know that the soviet union won there or the like, they are silent about it, that is, in every country. yes, they have their own certain policy, certain knowledge of their own. that is, they have been like since childhood. children are taught because here it is good, but here it is bad. that's all the truth, well rewrite history. yes, the technology itself is not given to many people. to develop technologies for the world to move, let's say for the better. so it's simply not profitable, just
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like we were offered before euro 2012 , yes, china, uh, make our roads 50 years old they said, well, they gave guarantees, that is, if it breaks, how would they do it for free , they refused us, because it’s unprofitable. that’s how it’s all built, this is the policy of life and everything else. well, because the budgets did not drink. yes, well, yes, yes, precisely because of this , the most important thing now is simply this, this is a war, because you need to go somewhere. i don’t know how to give money from somewhere to take it and that’s it. rest. uh, america has not waged at least one war on its territory. and even the same way it was formed. that too, of course. a how many population are they? uh, the indians were destroyed , but this is not mentioned anywhere. how many people were killed destroyed. in slavery how many were and how many more colonies? did they fail? yes? and this is also how much africa
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suffered, as well as itself in iraq when they fought, why, as it were, a terrorist attack took place on their territory, they therefore invaded it all, as it were, uh. well, how, in my opinion, may, in the opinion of many other people, that all this was deliberately provoked, because there were minerals, as it were, in order to the state has developed, funding is needed, where to get it, that is, it is there. they don't use it. let's break into colin like this with a larger test tube with some substance of an incomprehensible property. yes , he said that these are chemical weapons and even without un sanctions without permission. uh, they just took it and invaded, and in cancer we can also remember syria. yes, yes, yes, for fictional reasons, and with america, this is the only country that has used nuclear weapons. already against peace. well, how about the population? there is not even if they were in the military, yes, so they
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fought and everything else. well, the civilian population, didn't they die from this. how much they also do not specifically disclose this. if you remember, it was not only hiroshima and nagasaki yes, if we are talking about nuclear weapons. and how many banned weapons were used in vietnam, a long-term war where millions of civilians died? and then, uh, the soil also suffered, and the initiators there for a long time, well, this is that only this is only what is fixed. and how much of what, as we do not know, but from 20 years of afghanistan, too, and the shameful flight of the united states e. i recently heard the opinion of one of the political scientists that for the united states, ukraine can become the second afghanistan, what do you think about this, perhaps, that is , they also want to, and arrange this protracted conflict for many, many years. well, we hope that, as it were, it will be resolved in a more peaceful way,
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that's all the same. how much can you die doing what we can? well, everything that depends on us is necessary to put up arms already . so we are all brothers and sisters, we are not must be divisive bill gates recently spoke out about ukraine and called its government the most corrupt. let's listen. ukrainian government one of the worst in the world, it is corrupt and controlled by a few rich people. i feel very sorry for the people of ukraine in ukraine , more fertile land than in the united states. i mean, this breadbasket of europe is an incredible place. i hope that after the conflict, when ukraine will be restored. it will first reach the level of eastern europe and then all of europe. a country that has many prospects, but so far
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it has been destroyed and no one knows how long this conflict will continue. that completely different people manage this all? as if zelensky it's just, as for me, this is a puppet, which they say what needs to be done. he's like when he came to power, i'll stop the war, none of this will happen and that's it. the rest in the end. here is the result of what is happening now, blaming russia for this , too, the fact that you see russia is so bad is also wrong, we have always supported and belarus ukraine and all other countries. and
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then you see, it became an aggressor against the whole world. well, that's wrong. well, yes, unfortunately, that's really what he says beat, that, hmm, ukraine is really the richest country, of course, the earth is black earth. why does this one already have a flag? because heaven and wheat, but it has always been considered a granary, yes, of the soviet union and even the world one can be said to be a granary, and a very interesting video, too, recently caught my eye, where a resident, in my opinion, kharkov, was indignant that his trying to mobilize and send to the front. e declaring that you must fight for your land. he says for what land i don't have any land, but the land was sold to foreigners. i do
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n't even have a square meter. what land will i defend some american uncle sam. well, that is, it's a shame that from such a rich country. here they turned it. it's just that they made it a testing ground for military operations and weapons testing. e western style. well, in fact, in general, yes, now most of the tests are underway this armament, which is located in the west. it's the same there. well, let’s get in, i won’t say, maybe they haven’t been delivered yet, but at least these artillery mounts of the three sevens that are testing them here are already doing the same thing and their bmps there . the same ones will be here, uh, to look at what shortcomings and then eliminate these shortcomings, so that this does not happen in the future. yes, that's how it is, but still. i think that the defenders of donbass are also do not stand aside and receive samples of western technology. we go to capture her opponent
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and study and also draw conclusions, of course, until we stop for a long time. subscribe to our telegram channel, it's called say don't be silent. e, offer us guests to leave their comments, and look for all our releases on the belarus 1 youtube channel and on the website of the belteleradiocompany. on the air say again, do not be silent, and he is our guest pavel prokhorenkov. you can say what is different in belarus from your homeland and what is in general, i think that if, as if we were somewhere else from the age of 12, maybe from the tenth year we left big finances for ourselves, then the donbass would be no worse than belarus, well,
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in terms of infrastructure and everything else. and so dad, yes, he raised the country from its knees, you can say so. how much of everything is set up from restored made for people. well, people, as usual, do not appreciate this, of course. then they don't notice. yes, what they are accustomed to perceive as commonplace, but what would you single out in common, but in belarusians and ukrainians. yes, between all three peoples have always been common ukrainians and russian belarusians - they have always been brothers and that's it. yes, it’s like they are, and in my opinion, it will remain so. it’s just that no matter how it knocks them out , they don’t kill each other, and they try to sow enmity between the people, but you understand how that’s what uh confuses me and what i fear is that after all these
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events, they will tear peoples apart for a long time , because to recover from such wounds. but it's very hard when a ukrainian shoots at a ukrainian, let the russian speaking and living, and on the territory of donbass well, not everyone perceives this, because , as you say, that they shoot their own, they think it is an enemy. he came to my land. he will take my children, take my house, and that's it. the rest is for the most part. well, it's like my opinion that they have such a policy on this. and what do you think, when our slavic family will be reunited , do you have any forecasts, as a person, the sooner, the better, how to reconcile, that is, it doesn’t matter when and how this happens reconciliation, of course, to build a border in the west and everything with a fence, of course, so that they don’t climb, what ukraine has in russia,
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belarus has what we don’t have, what they have , we have all these resources, we can live without them. well, from the other side they are trying to stick their nose in here, because they also need these same resources, because they don’t have these resources. so, what are we doing here? well , look, recently there was also information that there are giant deposits of titanium in ukraine, and without this titanium, the american economy cannot exist. here, in fact, its main interest. and why is she climbing? well, not only because of this, we also have, as it were, deep mines in the donbass, which are abandoned. well, already worked out and everything. the rest can be stored there, for example, some kind of nuclear waste and everything else. and because of this, too, as it were, because of storage and everything, the rest of ukraine is now just a landfill in another way to say here, there’s even nothing to feel sorry for people. that's the thing, that people are dying and you can't see, you can't see
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people. well, as they say, if you want peace, prepare for it. here it is at the moment it's all right happening. differently. unfortunately, you don't know, maxim misko, head of the belarusian peace foundation, was also our guest. and so he said that experts have calculated that for all the time of observation in the world. um, well, the planet has only had 60 peaceful days without war, well, without war. what do you think, in general peaceful coexistence of all peoples. is this a utopia or is there still in this desire to live peacefully with everyone, well, there is some kind of desire. he just needs to start over. yes, then it will be fine in this scenario, which is now all over the world nothing here will work. well, when the elections took place in 2019, when
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zelensky and poroshenko were paid well, the main ones were, yes, yes, the opponent dan you then i believed that zelensky would really fulfill his promises. he flopped down on his knees. we remember, we are ready for kalina ukraine, i am at once, ready to stats for kulina in front of the skin mother. when i was reading my clap now, now i can front my son in front of the skin father. it's all done and played on camera. well,
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i believed in a miracle, let's say. so. well. unfortunately miracle did not happen, but it only got worse. and when you yourself see now, already in civilian life, some kind of, well, some kind of weapons equipment there , some kind of guns. yes, for example, somewhere in belarus. here you have been nearby. we took a picture with such a weapon, what do you think at this moment, looking at the equipment in peacetime . how many battles have been completed? how many people are behind them? polo do not like to remember. well, this is war. it's generally not a good thing about it's better. i say don't see don't know to the water park, so let's say yes, that is it absolutely right. there is such an opinion and very often it sounds that if ukraine got such a president as alexander
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lvovich lukashenko, then ukraine would become the second belarus, you will agree. well, it would certainly be nice to have such a president. but, unfortunately, yes, ukraine was not lucky in this regard. and and here it is also surprising, yes, when the belarusians put a claim on us that your dad has been holding his post for a long time in ukraine already. well, like six, probably more presidents. actually, what did it all lead to? no to what a good thing everyone comes to puts his pockets full and leaves too amazing. after all, people have also become accustomed there, well, at least in kiev in the western territories about what they have chosen. well, okay, if you don’t like it in two or three years, we’ll demolish it and choose a new one. that is, even somehow they do n’t want stability at all, or something. she just she just tell 'em new. a person who comes
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to power of the country's population hopes for the best , that's why they choose another, they hope that it will be better, but it only gets worse and worse and worse, after all, i would like to wish the ukrainians to look, for example, to belarus, which presidents they need to choose in order not to face what the ukrainian people had to face in ukraine in the future. and we want to wish you. uh, well, first of all, thank you for the conversation for coming to visit us today to wish you a speedy recovery, happiness to you in your family, let your children grow up in a happy , happy country and under a peaceful sky. thank you very much. the end of our program, as always belongs to the guests so that we are tatyana shcherbina svetlana smolonskaya. we say goodbye to you until the next broadcast. goodbye. goodbye. and now pavel prokhorenkov is speaking. i would like to wish the belarusians, ukrainians, the russian world
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