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there is enough time for children to learn exactly what divine love is, how to communicate with each other to children. what is prosphora and how is it prepared in monasteries in the morning ? without this test, you yourself will get somewhere in five liturgies of large prosphora , especially for service ones, and somewhere around 120 small prosphora, which distinguishes and unites the main religions of the world. of course, it is very important for us that we offer a spiritual basis for every religion that does this. uh, taking into account their traditions and rules. here but in many ways we have a common approach, a look at the family, the answers to these and other questions in the spiritual educational projects on
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belarus 24 tv channel
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. zus their manifestations of a person
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creatively the most wonderful and worthy of respect, these books in books live thoughts have passed, memos expressively improve people's voices. reeling bringing together a generation of prices, not bypassing for our dry belarus 20 shatyrs natalia golubeva candidate of historical sciences writer
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screenwriter, today i would like to talk about the terrible phenomenon that our belarusian people had to endure the genocide. hello on the air program svetlana smolonskaya and victoria popova will not be silent and today our guests natalya golubeva hello natalya alexandrovna is very glad to see you in our studio on belarus 1 tv channel, a documentary project genocide without the right to life has started, and two episodes have already been released. you are the author of the script for this project. of course we plan to meet and with our fellow television people who shot this film, but for now let's look at the screen, and we'll look at the announcement and discuss it in the years
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when many countries again begin to propagate the ideas of nazism without fiction, let's recall how this affected the belarusian people . one will publish a list of nazi criminals who are still alive abroad, we will tell. we will show military chronicles, dozens of inquisitorial operations are declassified from the german archives in a new documentary and journalistic cycle genocide without the right to life, the facts that for decades have not been disclosed out of tact, the unwillingness to stir up the past and slander the peoples , can no longer be silent. clear the western part of the soviet union from 31 million people, evict beyond the urals up to 46-501 million people, and 14 million who remained there, and not dream of defeating the russians, as the people were understood as russians and
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belarusians 75% of them should be destroyed. why exactly the topic of genocides became for you came to the fore, the most important thing is that, unfortunately, today the event that is taking place both around belarus and in the center of europe, in fact, obliges us to simply return once again to those events that it would seem that history has already pushed us over decades, but, unfortunately, history repeats itself, and literally the other day on july 30, and 90 years from the day hitler came to power in germany, the date is mournful, and mournful for his group, and which then divided the world into two
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parts before and after when the evil bloody march, as we say in the film. a-a through europe then through the territory of belarus of the soviet union fascism began and, unfortunately, everything repeats itself, and the alignment in europe and the alignment of forces hmm, the first to recognize the fascist regime, unfortunately, was the vatican and the second was poland poland, which soon became a hostage to its decisions and suffered from fascism first so forget these event analogies. literally in every episode in the entire project, what is happening today is read. e with the civilian population in ukraine, and
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there is no need to even give analogies. they read how people suffer today, then, but how nazi ukrainian criminals, you can’t call them otherwise. hmm, they treat the civilian population, especially in those territories that, in general, did not agree with the nazi regime with nazi policies. everything, in general, comes back and i emphasize again, to my great regret, and that's about it. today we must speak to our people. it was not by chance that you remembered the date, uh, the coming to power of hitler, because you consider it a match that kindled everything, these are horrors in europe, this is nationalism in today's time, the analogy is also read in in this vein, so you think that operation 11 she has the right to life because, well, she doesn't just have the right to life. it was
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not inevitable, because at the forefront, and the politics of fascist germany was, but it was the idea of ​​the superiority of one nation over another. hmm, the tasks were clearly set, and we also talk about this in our project. uh, this is evidenced primarily by the declassified documents of the german archives, which, by the way, even before 2009 denied that the ost plan existed at all and only documents which the american side handed over to germany in the museum. and it was revealed that this plan was still there, for decades, it was hidden, the national card was played, and from history we know that the most terrible war that takes place in the world. they occur
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first on religious grounds, and the second on national grounds, which is what today is taken as a basis for undermining regimes. be shaken hmm stability is to play the national card , and especially in those countries e, where there is a multinational composition. take ukraine belarus russia you said that the illusion of about the fact that there was no such task. they tested the germans for many years, and the germans themselves camouflaged this story, so to speak, and i even know the employees of the belarusian archives, who still don’t want to believe it, but also to avoid false rumors. you see , this film relied on the german archives, some of which were for the 75th anniversary of the victory from the people at the russian ministry of defense, and not only. and of course, uh in the film, these are the three
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components that formed the basis for uh, really u to avoid a krivotukov, and in order to tell people there were no illusions, and we don’t need to harbor any illusions today, we need to call things by their proper names, and we can call them by their proper names when we have the first. facts facts are documents, these are declassified german archives, this is one of the sources that we received in recent years before that . this is very painstaking work. many ask a question. that's exactly why
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now why now? and this question arises is the result. uh, i emphasize once again the great developments of both archivists and scientists and search teams and local authorities, of course, the prosecutor general's office hmm means jointly, with which this project was created, they formed the basis. uh, the documents of the emergency commissions, after all, atrocities, but fascism. on the territory of belarus, they began to record literally in the forty-second year of the forty-third year, they were also recorded by partisan detachments worked a. foreign intelligence. in the second series we see reports fitina head of foreign intelligence in the name of the country's top leadership, and the forty-fourth year of the liberation of the republic in hot pursuit , neighboring villages with khatyn from
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other villages were interviewed by eyewitnesses who, therefore, survived this array of documents. it is called the materials of the emergency state commission, which was created in the forty-third year of this documents already in the sixties, when they were reviewing, that is, there was a process of constant identification of criminals and a 75% plan. i just think need to repeat it over and over again. because it is very difficult for 75% of belarusians to assimilate it, as a result of this plan they should not have remained alive at all, which means, moreover, literally before this cycle. e to belarus one, but two passed. eh, i also consider such projects to be the topic of the day - this is the partisan frontier, where we are more detailed. how much should be left, not only on
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the territory of belarus, but in every city. hmm , that means it was attached to this plan, and this one is painted with german pedantry. how many in what city was to be left with slaves, how much was it necessary to destroy the excess population, and how many should be evicted? and, that is, it was necessary to free our territories for settlement by colonists. here i give you an example, gomel well, there were 50,000 slaves left, mogilev 50 minsk, most of the population wanted to leave 100,000 to serve the colonists, who were supposed to populate our belarusian capital with you for those who want to drink bavarian beer, if the germans won and travel on a mercedes, you need to be reminded that it would hardly have been possible in general, in principle, you understand a lot of speculation, but unfortunately, and
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in addition to this information , western idiologists work very well. and we need to bet on whether someone likes or dislikes, we must speak. what were these people? what was the national svidomo? i mean already our mm belarusian collaborators. ah, the banner of which was raised with us in the twentieth year, and under their banners, national svidomo. uh, europe and so on. everything was very specific. just more once again returning to the mid-thirties, which means that undermining was clearly and clearly spelled out in the german doctrines, and from within the states, before this bloody campaign of conquest began, and hmm, the territory had to prepare the foundation. reading analogies.
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today in russia there are liberal intelligentsia. we have national knowledge of the national environment since the thirty-fifth year. hmm screwdrivers. and ver val cooked and the first was ukrainian nationalists, on whom they then staked and appeared with us later bandera, melnikovites, and so on, the akovites and who have already committed atrocities on our territory, and among our collaboration was a well-prepared kostyak in the depths of the adgeratia and together with the nazi troops. they evenly entered the territory of hmm , that means belarus in order to carry this kind of holy home, and with a statement, so they tell us. here are national belarusian schools. yes, no one archives say that there was only primary
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education to read read sign everything and under the idea of ​​a national so-called reflection means the belarusian press was russian newspapers and so on, but look at another analogy with the twentieth year. these are people who were paid very well if, hmm, we read the documents, and i'm the author, and a sufficient number of articles are a collaborator from eco-independence. i rejoiced at her. i cite there the first three memorandums that they wrote, which means signed by vasyl zakharka, and they didn’t write the gathering in prague before the onset of the hmm nazis, but the great leader of the german people. come to belarus, put things in order first mararandum narisogeneusha. first days wars are already bombing minsk, blood is shed, brest is in
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blood. great poetess. genius collects pears for the sub-market of the impervious german army and red ridge. the german army signature and the good ken she contributed to the demolition. the belarusian army, it turned out to be frozen, but they didn’t get abandoned, i want to not only for worlds, but to emphasize and on the territory of occupied belarus they received e not occupational little stamps, but the flight of the stamp, moreover, in my articles and in the newspaper you can cite, but example, a hmm rations they received, a daily, in addition to sausages, cereals and so on , be sure to have coffee in hungry minsk. yes, you ca n’t get anywhere. and what these people don't need. here we abstract, but from their position, so to speak,
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from everything people who every day walked around minsk around the city. and where the gallows were not empty , people were hanged every day, they shot , they shot about it. we have a fourth terrible series there. yes, they calmly drank, ate, and i bring the last one, which means an argument. here is a telegram, it says, the letter of the cube is september, the month of the forty-first year, and that means, and immediately a meeting with our belarusian chronicles, so to speak. yes, yes, with the slave there is a chronicle, one of the first telegram that was sent to the gibbite commissariat. and the telegram. hmm, december, in my opinion, i don’t want to be mistaken, in my opinion, december is the end of november, and the family has egyptian micellate, there is white ruthenium, and the whiteness is whipped from the
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executed jews. a fighter is transmitted from my mother , that is, a theater where the bolshoi theater was brought together, survivors of the bombers. eh, where did you go, huh? the advantage of the jews who were shot, including, was transferred and holy second project - this is a secret war, where we talked about how the belarusian collaboration was formed, and its leaders, who were fed by the third reich and who, together with german troops, entered the territory of belarus to raise the so -called annexation of belarus, still believe that we we didn’t raise the topic of the genocide of the belarusian people during the great patriotic war for the reason that we didn’t want to spoil relations with the west, what do you say, you know, there are many factors here,
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the west let it live there on its own west, as they say yes, but for us. although we also take this factor into account and our country is peaceful. we all want. satisfies all relations, and we know a whole package of documents that was adopted by the soviet union in relation to defeated germany and i want to say that germany remained occupied by the united states. they did not sign these documents, but about recognition, there is independence and so on. the soviet union made hmm a step forward. it was a policy of reconciliation, let's say so, and the policy of the belarusian leadership and people, but we people we speak by the standards. yes, we hmm have always lived in the world and the territory of belarus white
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dew- called yes, always fled people because the xvi century is an earlier period. well, there was such a situation here that hmm people did n’t remember evil, but it was and was for stability for e relationships between people, because many families, they were divided. someone was on the other side, someone was on this side. although these were isolated cases, belarus had the smallest number of collaborators compared to that or little estonia. i don't want to make a mistake in the numbers, but small estonia with a hmm one and a half to two million inhabitants. sorry 25.0 24 means, uh, latvian collaborators, who were the forest brothers, the latvian battalion. with us
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it was not a mass phenomenon and hmm always stir up. this one, it seems to me, this one worked the effect of the winners, yes. and when you rejoice that you are already at the end of this horror, you already, well, you don’t really remember the past , you turn to the page and move forward, because it was very many other tasks. we had to rebuild the country. first. yes, absolutely, uh, this factor worked correctly, plus uh, they worked, uh, emergency commissions that punished criminals. many spent time in camps. uh, different times. let me give you, even hmm , such figures of our such tolerance are 100,000. yes, but little belgium was held accountable for
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collaborating with the nazis. yes, but, that is, there were generally tougher measures taken in europe than hmm, let's say we have, but we , uh, if there was no blood on our hands, people, they served their time, so they let someone have mercy, we know, but the khrushchev reform when bandera, who were supposed to serve time, yes, they were released and today their followers are relatives. well, we decided to take over the old. let's take a short pause on this and think about all this, i remind you of our telegram channel. say don't be silent. subscribe suggest us guests and ask your questions. we are in touch. rabbit
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yes, what is the beauty of svetlana borovskaya on ours? every week the heroes go on an adventure it is worth driving 25 km from minsk, and you will have an unforgettable time in this place, skin man, how i wanted to spend. our city rut, the show write here the fish was with them to bring a stone. well, i'll bring kizmokh. i
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could pull such her. look who we have here here we have, in my opinion, zaporozhets yes, well, here is one of the first they must complete all the tasks and complete the quest. from what word the name of the city linda comes from, maybe the river name of the king's daughter is somehow connected, because it was decided in the legend. still convincing visually, and the next the task brought me here to the elevator center of culture and folk art. and what will we do with songs and stone, scissors and paper will help them, see on our tv channel. on the air say again, don't be silent, and we have a candidate of historical sciences screenwriter natalya golubeva natalya aleksandrovna as our guest
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. please tell us about the remaining ones in the cycle, 16 episodes. yes, we are going back to the basics. uh, lay down the documents, and the documents earlier, uh, that means, uh, the documents of the german archives, which supplemented our knowledge and ideas about that and the belief that it was mass extermination, and the population during the war years and most importantly, of course, and these are living witnesses who became eyewitnesses and beyond. eyewitnesses, and the people who survived all these horrors, but firsthand the people who escaped from the burning villages, someone saved, uh, fleeing under the bombs, and the german aircraft, which was actively
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used against the civilian population , someone survived. uh, when people were lined up in chains, and hmm let mine through the fields to clear the fields, that is, people tell their stories. we could have gone the other way. invite to follow or historians. and we could use some facts already known before. hmm, for us the most important thing was that from the screen, and today , those who saw it all told us living about the truth of people. with the eyes and who survived all this horror, m. therefore, the entire film the entire cycle is built precisely on the memories of real witnesses, and we are very grateful to these people. these are people who are over 90, you know, it was amazing that
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so many years have passed since the war, and people have forgotten a lot in their lives. well, that's all the horror of the war, that's how the nazis came, how the huts were sick, how they killed people on the threshold, how people remember not sparing anyone, and in the smallest details. this suggests that we already have memory at the genetic level. this fear, this horror, and it is no coincidence that for decades they have been saying, but these belarusians, they say, if only there was no war. and today this phrase, but if only there was no war, as ours said. grandmother's pillows, parents, it is felt, it is perceived quite sexually, it is very actual, it is perceived in a completely different way on the international satellite tv channel belarus 24. and this project is also coming out. uh, of course we are now, well, in the territorial space are limited in territorial coverage.
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basically, this is the russian federation tell for the residents. which country would you like to present the project without the right to life, but you know, i probably want to rely on those reviews. uh we got you know this is also a kind of a barometer, and not only related to this film. and for example, i am grateful to all those who left these reviews , there were a lot of them, that is, we touched people, not only our republic. it struck me that serbia left theirs and hmm kazakhstan and and germany people ask in german there show this film in germany today. eh, it's good that we have social networks today, what we post
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on the internet, and the film is available, and i think that both in ukraine and in germany, which today who is drawn into all these conflicts, once again they must look, not only what they have done here, but what can return to them. after all, they are also strange, who were defeated, but i also remember talking with you, when the shooting was going on, you told natalya alexandrovna that the witnesses were very often so worried when they told these stories that some had to call the medics because again. experience it was very difficult. this is how you avoided this delicate moment. yeah you know what hmm well it is the normal state of people, and who were forced after so many years were asked, but
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remember this and hmm i would like to say that this is a colossal responsibility of people. they could keep silent shrug, but say, no i won't take it hard for me, i ca n't yes, but people gathering all their strength hmm in front of the pills. but let's say, we filmed, in general we went to the hospital to see one of the e, for witnesses. uh, and there in the hospital room. we filmed a man who was very worried that he would not be able to tell it before he had time understand? therefore, you know, memories could be different, but someone would tell, well, there they burned this film there too, so that there were no illusions, no matter what they said. well, here's
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another one of those mogidki. and hmm, it means that they are arranging something, which means that they are trying to impose something on us again, all hmm difficult controversial points that are being discussed in society today. we asked collaborators to tell witnesses. how the ukrainian nazis behaved. how they behaved, uh, means in relation to the civilian population. eh, that was it’s just for me, for example, i have already read so much in my life and documents, all works have been written and books have been written , the latvian punishers have become a revelation. it is inconceivable to find the mind in its cruelty, and we cite there that and our children who exported the territories of the vitebsk region, children were taken to the market in riga and sold our children into slaves. they are trying to present the salaspil camp
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to us today as a labor camp. uh, it smoked there every day. the crematorium burned people and people who were witnesses who went through this camp were drunk, and they say that it is was the most cruel camp in its content , in its horrors. ono hao and how they took blood, and not just took blood. you know the child was hung up. that's horrible. and how they mocked our children and uh, there you just need to write on the screen. keep children away from screens. but it was with our children and the instruction on how to take the best blood from the child's armpits was suspended. under the ceiling, which means they cut off the skin on the heels and squeezed out the blood and took
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blood from the heels into test tubes in a bottle about this, a living witness also says, who has such the procedure took place in the same camp, but the concentration camp was drunk, we were amazing here. after all, the latvians had relatives here on the territory of belarus, they were very closely neighbors in the pre-war period. and why is it so bestial, just a grin in relation to the belarusian. yes, not just animal grins, we even give the latvians themselves, but an example, but look, this is hmm already closer to the end of this cycle, when we call the place in the belarusian village hmm so he was attracted by two things. he went into the burnt hut and from the latvian battalion, uh, that means as the pride of the activity of this battalion told me that hmm,
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belarusian women were taken as concubines, he simply saw the corpses, burnt women, tied by the leg with barbed wire. first they raped him, then they tied him up and burned him, he was in shock. but they were, as they say. well, you are so easy. yes , acquaintance with the activities of the latvian battalion, and he was attracted by flies that flew over a large barrel. and when he looked in, i mean, he couldn't take it. there were severed heads of local residents. dumped in a barrel, you know, but also winter magic. we remember, too, you know all these operations, we tell again, i emphasize through the stories of witnesses. we, uh, talked about those points that today they do not want to accept, which are being discussed.
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for some reason, i will forgive the attention to the belarusian nationalists in this conversation. you one witness says that the germans were better than in russia than the belarusian nationalists also did, yes, terrible things. yes, we have, uh, the same arteshevsky and from pershai, but tells how difficult it is, but they worked there. and as at first, but they were collecting information for the nazis, the union of belarusian youth was doing this. here youth they say that such a harmless organization. yes hmm they reported. in what punitive operations did they participate. which settlements took part in the burning of civilians. first, they went to collect information. where what does it mean, what connections with the partisans. uh, what's going on in the village, the fascists came
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along with them. so, and hmm, they participated in punitive operations and all the witnesses one says that it was possible to negotiate with the germans not only one witness. this is what you mean by the witness, green onions, green onions, and, logoisk district , everyone is talking about this. and well, they themselves are terrible, uh, with whom it was generally impossible to agree. these are ukrainian nationalists. these are latvians and labus, which ones were called if they came? lithuanian labuses hmm, that means, uh, the punitive battalion is, well, cruelty, it just went off scale. well, i think there is also such a fact that the germans gave him this dirty work. well , why do they need you know, uh, people came different ways, yes, we do not exclude collaboration. and there were such cases. so, when it was being formed,
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so the battalion under the command ate, and hmm people were driven by forces, they thought to create 400 people there, but they somehow gathered 200 and then half ran away there. yes, that is, people threatened him, there are a lot of documents, young people were recruited, not only there they drove to germany. but if you don’t go, the family will be shot to the police there, that is, there were all sorts, but the bulk knew perfectly well where they were going. why did they go what did they do and in the name of what did they do it? behind what money is the main thing, well, you tell such very scary facts, and even our colleagues on television said that the shooting was given to them. hmm, it was hard, uh, psychologically and morally. do you think it is necessary to show our project, for example, in schools as part of patriotic education. u want to say that the question will call, why 18+? i believe that
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yes, but it is necessary to organize this project of ours, but projects that will most likely be created on this topic. they must be shown first in the student the environment is the audience that, in general, is a generation of people, when we were very concerned that we have a worthy young generation growing up, who did not know the difficulties, who did not know the problems, well-fed, well-dressed, shod. opportunity to get an education let them see how these flirting with the nationally led under the flags that exterminated and killed ours, and the population, and therefore, i think that we should simply be obliged to go to schools. and hmm among the
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youth. well, in general, among those who somewhere else in the clouds, but it hovers, especially since a large number of children take part in the film, and these children and they weigh horror, they also experienced it on the set and i really hope that when leaving after filming. they also endured for themselves for the rest of their lives that fascism is scary very often, when the conversation already turns to genocide , they remember the examples of the jews and the holocaust and the fact that they know how to honor their dates from the exodus begins for thousands of years. and we, well, in general, have even been thinking. may 9 is a holiday already or already, maybe it’s not necessary, what why do you think about this topic, but we cannot unite around such really important dates that helped us survive as a nation in general? yeah, i think these are dates
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that should be more than just iconic. they should become the main ones, on july 3, the liberation of minsk, the sacrifices are huge, and on may 9, our common victory when, together with the soviet army as part of its soviet union, we defeated this fascism, you understand, well, honor and praise to the jewish nation, which from the first days, and hmm, it became to be in everyone to talk about it. genocide and convinced the whole world. yes, they are the most affected people well, according to the numbers, well, according to the numbers, we will say that in total 6 million, and the jewish population died only on the territory of belarus alone, and there were three million dead, and the numbers are not
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final, but working with the prosecutor general 's office . we literally corrected on the go, along the way, or rather, it means that the loss figures of this project were corrected, because the process is ongoing. and hmm, and i want to emphasize again so that no one has an opinion, here, all of a sudden we are here on the mountain, we are starting the process of issuing was constantly ongoing, and 10 years ago and 5 years ago , the general prosecutor's office, archivists and scientists worked there again. hmm, you understand, and i'm far from thinking what to do with it, how much he loves us? and some kind of sensation, which means that's why they ask questions, what are you most of all there, so the virgins were impressed by the surprise. yes, it has been impressive. it was horror. just the work
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of a scientist researcher, and most of all, when they open a case, they pull out some sheet from it, make a sensation, this sheet must be considered in the totality of events phenomena other documents. only then can we talk about such a phenomenon, like genocide, and we are talking about it today, the time has come, once again, it is impossible to forget to forget. you understand, this should be with us. it’s not that at the gene level we should remember every date to honor and say , if we do this, this is how it will all come to our earth. and today, if we are talking about the alignment of nato, it our borders today are nato in number. and you who starting to settle down, getting closer to the cold
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war, you know? let's take today's situation. we will discuss in the next part. in the meantime , let's take a short break, i remind you, we have a telegram channel, let's say, don't be silent. subscribe to ask questions and offer guests exactly in touch. on the air say again, don't be silent, and he is our guest writer screenwriter candidate of historical sciences natalya golubeva natalya alexandrovna but my man loves to ask this question in this studio, but still you have already touched on your operation before the pause, what do you think about perspectives. eh, you know how to draw historical parallels, in general, your forecast is comforting when peace comes or not. you know, unfortunately, they stirred up this hive here, and therefore, uh, this is not a process of some short time, i
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emphasize once again that but the tasks that were set for the dismemberment of russia from the soul, and for russia, i want to emphasize, that it is not the past. steletye i want to recall the historical fact that for the first time the plan for the dismemberment of russia was proposed in 1912 by colonel chaos, assistant to the president of the united states wilson, all those tasks that were set there to divide russia into regions to gain access to natural resources. i 'll interrupt. these are always resources. yes, but hmm yes, yes, motivation and resources. and that means not only resources, but any strong state, but
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becomes an object. uh, no one needs it, which means a strong independent in economic terms, including the republic of belarus , which for 30 years of its independence is not easy. ashes, and this is a highly intelligent country, with high-tech production, an independent competitive with colossal human potential scientific creative, and with people. e. v. in general, we know the attitude towards belarusians is always said, and you are from belarus yes, therefore , the tasks of the beginning of the last century were not fulfilled no, after the first world war, russia was neglected or, on the contrary, it gathered its lands and strengthened the second world war, these tasks were not fulfilled the cold war, which set
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these tasks. and today we have entered the phase when and so all the contradictions have aggravated all day and unfortunately, but hmm ukraine we will talk like that has become a training ground where both new technologies and methods of warfare and a new technology of information warfare and so on are being tested, so the fight will be tough even in this tough grip. i very much hope that our projects will take their own place , specifically, but in an ideological sense, because the war was won by a terrible bloody not force and weapons, primarily from the strength of the spirit of the soviet people, and therefore our main
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task today is to unite. concepts once again about the meaning of rethinking what we had to to live through this project once again as a reminder if today we start the slightest, let's say, hesitation, some kind of doubt. today, cards revealed, we must be strong. we must be united. well, i hope that they are still invincible, as a historian. can you confirm what or who hasn't succeeded yet? yes , uh, two things that no one has ever been able to defeat, uh, russian soviet diplomacy and ah, soviet intelligence and the red soviet russian army, so victory will be ours. and i think that our alliance with
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russia and those events that are being held today, they are aimed at preventing fascism from spreading to our earth on ours. uh, pavel prokhorenkov is visiting residents of donetsk. and he said, here are all your phrases, both about the fact that ukraine is a training ground and about what we must. strong are united and invincible, and natalya alexandrovna you have a lot of work, e scientific art, with which you will please us in the near future on what to work on. if you can, it's a lot of work to announce it. i think we should also say this, and not forget, and hmm, we are returning to the mid- eighties. uh, hmm, together with russian scientists. eh, after all, she is a representative of the classical scientific moscow school, but she completed her postgraduate studies at the academy of
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social sciences. uh, in moscow, a lot of work is connected precisely. hmm, russian scientists are working on big projects. history of betrayal. to talk about today's events about why the collapse of the great power occurred, or you know, mmm. invent a lot of modern weapons. can develop cool military operations in a strategic plan, but a group of traitors appears. and everything goes backwards, so the story of betrayal. this is about how they rented and sold the soviet union, how they did not care about the opinion of the people of the soviet union who did not want this collapse. how was it imposed on us? this is a complex work of chubais with yeltsius, gorbachev
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, shevardnadze and so on. that is, this will be a big job, where you want literally for short periods, when everything started with idiological processing, and hmm when alexander nikolaevich yakovlevism is such a secretary, as he is the party hmm of the ussr, and we will lead, so to speak, this campaign for perestroika ideological support. we got this result. you think there is some kind of recipe. i'm in my twentieth year. now i remember many i can’t explain at all, that is, to derive some kind of betrayal formula, it’s unlikely that it will always work out. mm, you need to calculate these moves and you need to feel the time. and when we came up, we'll get to this by the twentieth year, yes. hey, let's
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remember. well, we are to blame. here in every in case, there is my generation and so on. hmm , there is a lot to say here, the components that led to this, this is hmm and the boulogne process that we were striving for, yes, the education system, which is now wondering everything for whom we trained personnel, yes ? foreign languages ​​were first of all adapted, which means, uh, to all these funds, ah, which zombified the youth, yes, which, under various signs , prepared a modern leader. what does uh mean, that's all. it was according to technology, uh, western and who did they get, but did they get? well, not you have to go far for examples sandra in moldova is a fictitious. sorry of these technologies. yes , all these in ukraine. take, then, all the elite,
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the so-called european today to one degree or another, which have gone through, so to speak, this is training and they are now giving out on the mountain, what gives, uh, the regional committee of the united states party probably i don’t in defense and not in excuse, that's right. you talk, but live by feeling. well, not port yes, absolutely , that's why we relaxed. maybe they thought that some kind of union is possible european peoples, including, well, as if the attitude towards us as slaves, it, unfortunately, has not changed. yes, therefore, you always need to know the truth to live according to your own laws of tolerance, no one has canceled it, be able to forgive, be able to see. e where a person is simple, but , well, as if confused, and it is better to shed those
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who directly explode. this is an explosive situation, so you need to know everything, but live according to your own laws, as you used to live in our republic, respect all the peoples of the nationality, and delve into each specific case so that there is no confrontation, they are bitterness, that's the thing. you think we after the twentieth year have already drawn conclusions in order to draw final conclusions over a lot to analyze the constituent information. i think we have drawn the conclusions and, of course, i really hope that we are on the path of, uh, unity and stability. and we will be very much looking forward to your new scientific work, which is very interesting to read more movies ahead. well you can watch remind our viewers every monday after just after clear policy at 22:00. there are many more episodes and episodes to come. unfortunately,
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they will increase in intensity more. uh, emotional, and it is through them, uh hmm, we will show all the horror and catastrophe that took place on the territory of belarus many thanks to you and your project and your books and new successes, we victoria popova svetlana smolonskaya. we say goodbye to you until the next broadcast. goodbye. goodbye. and now natalya golubeva says everything that the viewer will see, and on the screen it should again. remind how important peace is in our country. how important it is to maintain stability and i would like to wish that a in each of our belarusian the world was in agreement with the family, and we never forgot not the lessons of the war, not what happened in every belarusian family.
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and traditions, we set off on an expedition along the patches of our ukraine to get to the place of pronunciation, we tried to drive 300-3 km at noon, i’m sitting new in the forest, which we treat the groom’s area for a walk.
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in yakim's time, they never created a new life for the second tradition. on our tv channel in belarus led to work, study and love. my name is alexei verhuel, i am an opera symphony conductor. and i came from russia. i want to do an internship already as in belarus and after that i will start working as a doctor. each hero has his own unique story and his own view of belarus, but in fact it is a theater the bolshoi theater of belarus we see from russia just like you. you see marinka in russia, for us it is, well, the bolshoi bolshoi theater with a history and a reputation, the
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belarusian people take a very long time even the belarusian anthem begins. we are peaceful people in belarus. very nervous people, very calm people. yes, please, uh, hardworking, see the program view of belarus on our channel.
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