it was very difficult to get around this delicate moment. yes, you know what m-m. well, this is a normal state of people, and who were forced to ask after so many years, but to remember this and mm. i would like to say that this is a colossal responsibility of people. they could keep silent shrug, but say, no i won't take it hard for me, i ca n't yes, but people gathering all their strength hmm in front of the pills. and let's say we were filming, in general we went to the hospital to see one of the e, for witnesses. uh, and there in the hospital room. we they filmed a person who was very worried that he would not be able to tell it, you didn’t have time to understand, so hmm and you know. memories

could be different, but someone would tell, well, they burned this film there. ah, the same so that there are no illusions, so that they do not say. well, here's another tamagidka. and hmm, it means that they are arranging something, which means that they are trying to impose something on us again, all hmm difficult controversial points that are being discussed in society today. we asked collaborators to tell witnesses. how do you feel led by ukrainian nazis. how they behaved, uh, means in relation to the civilian population. eh, it was easy for me, for example, i have already read so much in my life and documents and works have been written and books have been written , the latvian punishers became a revelation, you understand him. extensible in its cruelty, and we

cite there that and our children who exported the territory of the vitebsk region, children were taken to the market in riga and sold our children into slaves. they are trying to present the salaspil camp to us today as a labor camp. e, there smoked every day the crematorium burned people and people who were witnesses who passed this camp salaspils, and they say that it was the most cruel camp in its content , in its horrors. it's a hoot. ah, how they took blood, and not just took blood. you know the child was hung up. that's horrible. and how they mocked our children, and there you just need to write on the screen. keep children away from screens. but it was with

our children and the instruction on how to take the best blood from the child's armpits was suspended. under the ceiling will prescribe they cut off the skin on the heels and squeezed out the blood and took blood from the heels in a test tube in a bottle, this is also a living witness, who had such a procedure in the same camp, but he drank in the concentration camp, we were amazing here, after all, he was the neck . here, relatives on the territory of belarus were very closely neighbors in the pre-war period. and why is it so bestial, just a grin in relation to the belarusian. yes, not just animal grins, we even give the latvians themselves, but an example, but look, it’s already closer to at the end of this cycle, when we call a belarusian village and a place. hmm so

, two things attracted him. he went into a burned-out hut and from the latvian battalion, that means, as the pride of the activity of this battalion told that hmm belarusian women were taken as concubines, he just saw the corpses, burnt women, tied by the leg with barbed wire. first they raped him, then they tied him up and burned him, he was in shock. but they were, as they say. well, you are so easy. yes , acquaintance with the activities of the latvian battalion, and it was attracted by flies, which flew over a large barrel. and when he looked in, i mean, he couldn't take it. there were severed heads of local residents. stacked in a barrel dumped you know, but also winter magic. we remember, too, you know

all these operations we tell. oh hmm, once again i emphasize through the stories of witnesses. we , uh, talked about those points that today they do not want to accept, which are being discussed. for some reason, i will forgive the attention to the belarusian nationalists in this conversation. you one witness says that the germans were better than the belarusians nationalists also did, yes, terrible things. yes, we have, uh, the same arteshevsky and in a hurry and uh, tells how difficult it is, but they worked there. and as at first, but they were collecting information for the nazis, the union of belarusian youth was doing this. here youth they say that such a harmless organization. yes hmm they reported. in what punitive operations did they

participate. which settlements took part in the burning of civilians. first, they went to collect information. where what does it mean, what connections with the partisans. uh what going on in the village, the fascists came along with them. so, and hmm, they participated in punitive operations and all the witnesses as one say that it was possible to negotiate with the germans not only one witness. you mean the witness, green onion, green onion. e, logoisk district, everyone is talking about it. and well, they themselves are terrible, uh, with whom it was generally impossible to agree. these are ukrainian nationalists. these are latvians and labus, which ones were called if they came? lithuanian hmm means, uh, the punitive battalion is, well, cruelty, just off scale. well, i

i also think there is such a fact that the germans gave them this dirty work. well, why do they need you know, uh, people came in different ways, yes, we do not exclude collaboration. and there were such cases. so, when it was being formed, so the battalion under the command ate, and hmm people were driven by forces, they thought to create 400 people there, but they somehow gathered 200 and then half ran away there. yes, that is, people threatened him with a mass of documents, young people, recruited, not only there they drove to germany. but if you don’t go, the family will be shot to the police there, that is, there were all sorts, but the majority knew exactly where they were going. why did they go what did they do and in the name of what did they do it? that kind of money is the main thing. well, you tell such very scary facts, and even our colleagues on television said that the shooting

was given to them. hmm, it was hard, uh, psychologically and morally. do you think it is necessary to show our project, for example, in schools as part of patriotic education. u want to say that the question will call, why 18+? i believe that yes, but it is necessary to organize. this is our project, but it looks like projects that will probably be created on this topic. they have to to be shown first of all in the student environment, those audiences that, in general, are a generation of people, when we were very concerned about growing up with us, a worthy young generation who did not know the difficulties, did not know the problems, well-fed, well-dressed, shod. uh, an opportunity to get an education. let them see what ends these

flirting with nationally led under the flags that exterminated and killed ours, and the population, and therefore, i think that we should simply be obliged in schools. and hmm among youth. well, in general, among those who are still somewhere in the clouds, but hovering, especially since a large number of children take part in the film, and these children and they are the entire institute. horror, also experienced on the set and really hope that e leaving after filming. they also endured for themselves for the rest of their lives that fascism is terrible . natalya alexandrovna very often, when the conversation already turns to genocide, they remember the examples of the jews and the holocaust, uh, and the fact that they know how to honor their dates from the exodus begins millennia. and we, well, in general, even

were thought about. may 9 is a holiday already or already, maybe it’s not necessary, what do you think about this topic, why, but we can’t unite around such really important dates that helped us survive as a nation in general? yeah, i think these are dates that should be more than just iconic. they should become the main ones, on july 3, the liberation of minsk, the sacrifices are huge, and on may 9, our common victory, when , together with the soviet army as part of its soviet union, we defeated this fascism , you understand, well, part of the praise of the jewish nation, which from the first days, and hmm, therefore, in every way to talk about this geno. cide and convinced the whole world. yes, the point is that they are the most affected people, well, but the numbers are still, well,

we will say by the numbers that the aggregate and 6 million, and the jewish population died only on the territory of belarus alone, and there were three million died, and the numbers are not final, but working with the attorney general 's office. they were literally corrected on the go, along the way, or rather, it means that the loss figures of this project were corrected, because the process is ongoing. and hmm, i want again to emphasize so that no one has an opinion, all of a sudden we are here on the mountain, we begin to give out the process was going on constantly and 10 years ago and 5 years ago, she once again emphasized the work of the prosecutor general's office, archivists scientists. hmm, you understand, and i'm far from thinking what to do with it, how much he loves us? and

some kind of sensation, then, that's why that's how they ask questions, what are you most of all there, and that means you were impressed and surprised. yes, it has been impressive. it was horror, just the work of a scientist researcher, and the very thing when they open they pull out some kind of leaf out of it, make a sensation, this leaf must be considered in the totality of the events of the phenomena of other documents. only then can we talk about hmm such a phenomenon, like genocide, and we are talking about it today. you understand, we should have it. it’s not that we have to remember our legs at the level of each date and say , if we do it, that’s how it will all

come to our earth. and today, if we are talking about nato’s alignment, our borders today we need quantity. and you, who are starting to be deployed, are approaching the cold war, you understand? let's take today's situation. we will discuss in the next part while we take a short break, i remind you, we have a telegram channel. say don't be silent. subscribe to ask questions and offer guests exactly in touch. a native minsker goes to the village to find out from its inhabitants, why is it better than the city of smorgon ? there's a name nearby built. so we went to some historical place than with

factories. how did the locals react? here's to such your mureniya. i think they are happy that the village will die very much the village is being revived and even surprised by my perseverance, a lot of people want to return to nature, to the origins, to those memories that have remained since childhood. grandmothers. you are ready to work, turn your idea around with the heroes of the project. there have been a few hiccups here. and their technologies our comfort and safety

today to any specialist who works no matter in which sector he should have skills of energy-efficient technologies that save energy every time you come to work. this is my chess game, because i need to plan and organize the work. so all this equipment worked. they tell complex things in simple terms, but here we have imitation of the sun's rays and the light that imitates the sun heats the panel, uh, converting the sun's energy into the energy of heating water for the house, we are at -20 mark. this is the lowest point of our quarry, if we compare it with the level of the baltic sea, then we will say 20 m under water and shares the intricacies of his work, which he simply loves . yes, it looks like a toy. 90 tons of rock in the future is a concern for the

state, and the nation and its education, 24. on the air say again, do not be silent, and he is our guest writer scriptwriter candidate of historical sciences, natalya golubeva natalya alexandrovna my man love to ask this question in this studio, but still already touched on before the pause, and his operation, what do you think about the prospects. you know how to draw historical parallels, in general comforting your forecast when peace comes or not. you know, unfortunately, ah, this hive has been stirred up, and therefore this is

not a process of some short time, i emphasize once again that the tasks that were set for the dismemberment of russia from the heart, not in russia, i want to emphasize that it's not the past. teretye, i want to recall the historical fact that for the first time the plan for the dismemberment of russia was proposed in 1912 by colonel chaos, assistant to the president of the united states wilson, all those tasks that are there set to divide russia into regions to gain access to natural resources. i 'll interrupt. these are always resources, yes, and most importantly, yes, motivation is resources, and therefore not

only resources, but any strong state, but becomes an object. and no one needs it, which means a strong independent in economic terms, including the republic of belarus , which for 30 years of its independence is not easy. and this is a highly intelligent country, with high-tech production, independent competitive with colossal human potential. uh, scientific creative, and with people. e. v. in general, we always know the attitude towards belarusians, and you are from belarus. yes, therefore , the tasks of the beginning of the last century were

not fulfilled. fulfilled the cold war, which set these tasks. and today we have entered the phase when, which means that all the contradictions have become aggravated today and, unfortunately, but hmm, ukraine we will say this has become the testing ground on in which new technologies and methods of waging and new technology of waging information warfare are being developed today, and so on, so the fight will be tough in this tough grip. i very much hope that our projects will take their own place , specifically, but in an ideological sense, because the war was won by a terrible bloody not force and weapons, primarily from the strength of the spirit of the

soviet people, and therefore our main task today is to unite. concepts once again comprehend rethink what we had to to live through this project once again as a reminder if today we start the slightest, let's say, hesitation, some kind of doubt. today, cards revealed, we must be strong. we must be united. well, i hope that they are still invincible, as a historian. can you confirm what or who hasn't succeeded yet? yes , that means two things that no one has ever been able to defeat, uh, russian soviet diplomacy and a soviet intelligence and a red soviet russian army, so there will be a victory.