tv [untitled] BELARUSTV February 11, 2023 11:10am-12:01pm MSK
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fights for me as well, but since you expressed a desire for this interview. i want to try to understand you, maybe you will understand me, you know, that's the first question. let's go straight. yes, that's why you wanted to come to this studio, and i think we will definitely have an interesting conversation, this is the first. why did i come? i think my experience as well will be interesting. and my made there is such an expression, and learn from the mistakes of others. i think that well, as usual, we do not comply with this, unfortunately, only you start yourself anyway, but suddenly someone still useful opportunity for someone to recognize themselves in me and also analyze their actions, so i think that this interview will be. well , no wonder it will be interesting. well, look, i've seen your other interviews and i remember one in particular. you couldn't make up your mind in blitz. eh, which of us is worse than betel
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unt? smt or marco yes? so, when i looked, the question immediately arose of why i was, and i knew that you were for 10 questions. and you can say, the delayed choice took place, uh, no offense. i just didn't know you, so for it's hard for me to make a choice. and when you know what is appropriate. well, well, but then you were wearing a belarusian t-shirt, i didn’t expect, of course, today to see you in the first merchandise. well, there are state symbols. i enjoy seeing her. nadezhda let me tell you straight out that you have succeeded at least a little, at least somehow managed to change your attitude towards state symbols. that is, all the time they once performed under it. well , let's not open it. eh, i'm saying you had a little bit of an alternative. but after all another reason for this interview is that i will dispel this stereotype of the myth that i had some kind of negative attitude towards
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the state symbols. and i have absolutely positive. i performed under our green flag for many, many years. this is all from the ninety-sixth fifth year, and therefore i don’t understand why, but this opinion has formed that i have some kind of negative. i honestly saw that they directly said that you need more bchb topics. and i'm not dozens is not very difficult to understand why such a stereotype has developed? yes never negative about the fact that i never said that the red-greens are worse there uh bchw. never spoke. yes , our history was just there, that it was like that, and this stage is like that, all people chose it in a referendum. e, respectively , i found all this, so what other disputes can there be? and what concerns there said. well, again, some kind of formed stereotype, or there is an opportunity formed under this concept. i didn't include this
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expression. i studied. well, first of all, i kind of like history. yes, as if close to me, well, there theme there is our there, as the development of our country. therefore, perhaps i am so, but to all of these, well, such an even relationship is calmly simply perceived calmly, these are our simple strengths. well, i, too, once was, sort of in a row. yes, and also went under the e-flag. but it was a certain historical period when this symbolism was present. eh, just like everything. well, you see, everything changed , probably, 2020 first of all changed in consciousness and well, now unfortunately, yes, probably, most likely, they just started counting their flags to separate people, this is the worst thing that happened. that is, as if by themselves flags. they don't beat or kill anyone. why, when people use them, er, in malicious intent. eh, such an opinion is formed accordingly. well, here i'll hold it completely for me with the truth. i am pleased to see you in this sports uniform. yes, i
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remember a psychological thriller. uh, the girl with the dragon tattoo. you also have a dragon . yes, there is a small one, right? well, life now is like a psychological drama with a criminal tinge. here's to me really humanly interesting, well, and important, that was your decision. after all, you were absolutely not a political person, yes, far from politics. why did you plunge into all this in the twentieth year yourself, or did someone bring you there, if you are talking about marches? yes, uh, well, absolutely dated marshak of course i probably, it was my choice. yes, after all this informational pressure there, when whoever you call, write, what you saw there , you heard, as it were, therefore, yes? on the 16th i went to mars there really was my decision. these were mine emotions. i very much empathize with a person who empathizes with this, and therefore
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here yes, and there, as far as there is further there , these mashas are there, and here this one probably already worked. uh, factor called me. levchenko, for example, says, the guys are going to the athletes are going to a month. will you go won't you go? well, here you already know it already works there, and my colleagues are friends, especially since i haven’t seen many, there are 8-10 there. well, of course, as it were, i went further there for the company there with the guys to talk there be like. and therefore, as it were, i don’t know, as it were, let me, rather here, probably, there, partly mine, partly there, i succumbed to some kind of influence there, and so on. it's true. well, nadezhda , you understand that they deliberately tried to bring us all to these emotions. well, it's obvious. naturally yes? well, i mean,
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now you understand. you understand when you are in this thick of these events, when you have no other alternative points of view. and so it accumulates accumulates accumulates you make an emotional decision not rational, namely emotional uh, all these actions here, it was me, uh, purely emotions guided you so, of course, over time, well, everything passed there , poured passion fell down there, you know? well, damn it, well, yes, i did, well, as it were, it was clear that it was against the law to have unauthorized ones. well apologize. yes, you yourself just wanted to become a lawyer. well, it didn't work out. yes, you are a truly strong woman. well, let's get straight, yes, well, even the very fact that you are here today speaks about this and i'm not only talking about the core. yes, i'm not only talking about the core, because i admit my mistakes. this is generally the destiny of strong people, and the affairs of other strong people. farewell, now they are talking a lot about this, send the president
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a lot of controversy, yes around this topic, but the president has a clear position. the return of our people to their homeland, who was wrong? who did not commit a crime and we can say that they should not be left on the sidelines. these are literally his words. moreover, he has already signed a decree corresponding to the commission that will work on the return of these people. yes, here it is, please help me. understand in your opinion in people. who speaks sincerely, and who simply pretends to return to hide under the plinth and will wait, as they say, for brighter times. here is the question. come on, we’ll probably break down the answers from the confectionery, that is, at the beginning, but they said about a strong woman, but yes, i’m kind of, well, that’s my life, my character, brought up by sports since childhood, sort of, yes. i fully admitted my mistake fully admitted that i broke the law with uh. and i don’t deny my guilt, i didn’t deny it, and they will deny. this is about
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the first part of our first part, the second part, that alexander grigoryevich made such a shah and such, uh, such, proposed such an initiative. and i'm the only one with two hands for it, i fully support it. a and. a: if this, if this will allow people, people, in fact, they became tired against the confrontation of this. to return home to hug relatives, and even more so ahead of us holidays easter rejoices to go to the cemetery to visit relatives. this is a very good correct competent step here. i fully support to the third part of your question, what is after all how to understand how to understand, yes, but i think that it is still necessary with a positive attitude, well, to people, that is, do not immediately look for some kind of enemies there, that is. well, i think everything is damp. people who really want to come back will go, well
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, who have not done anything bad . he is afraid, and about just trusting trusting trusting people, because some opinion has really changed in this. they realized it. here's to sit in front you live examples. yes, i calmly communicate with you, there i did exactly the same act as many of them, right? well, are you at home now? now i'm already at home, yes, but see hope here, in fact. you are an example you are an outstanding athlete and athletes. yes? let's talk directly and people who shine on the screen creatively celebrities are the so-called leading ones who work on television. this is always an example for many. this is a role model to a certain extent. opinion leader, yes, and that's why you were. well let's get straight to speak on you was made a bet precisely of a person known throughout the country. but how do you imagine, well, i will say in a dry wording, this is active repentance, how it should look. in
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order to be believed is not always the interview is very difficult, let's say how to say at all. yes? well, look, but yes, i'm just here, i'm a living example. i came to you. i am open and free to communicate with you and explain. well, of course they won't do well. well, they made it a commission. yes, probably they are possible, i don't know, yes, how it will work. yes, but perhaps there will be some points there explaining. why did the person act like this and so on. yes? yes, even i think it's even banal that the very fact that a person has already returned here, he has already turned to the commission. that is, he already realized that, that is, he was converted. yes, he already admitted that he did something. and let's speculate, as if we're not even in the studio. now, if i were at your house, yes, we would sit down for a cup of tea and in fact. i wanted them to come to visit you. and maybe there to talk, but i think that i’m more used to it here, after all, it’s more of my complexes. but look how i see it.
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can you support me or tell me that i'm wrong somewhere, here a person made a post, let's say, at that moment, yes , he made an emotional post on his instagram page . yes, and so on. and this post, in fact , served as a definition of his position, that is, a trigger for others, someone focused on him. after that, we'll put it right. and here it is, and it's bigger. yes nothing did illegal things there, that is, did not write nasty things, did not call for violence there, or did not leak data into the black book of the chkkb, belarus that's what he should do in your opinion, will er, well, the same post be enough. here, how do you see it? in the same way, on the same platform, he spoke out and said, yes, guys, i was mistaken. and perhaps, yes, well, as it were, i'm not me, for example, i don't want to force someone to force. it must be a conscious choice. that is, if a person is ready to do it, then let him do it. that is it, well then it is it will be clear, honest and well and open.
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that is, well, you see, the most important thing is that it be really sincere, because i know such people and very many who really, and at that moment they were ready to tear me apart. true, they believed that i was personally the culprit in what they saw, and then it turned out that after a week they had enough there for some, a month or two. well, look, we have already touched on this topic, but emotions. i would like to continue it a little. if you let me personally you're here for the moment you we knew that, for example, even a journalist there was a gosmey to officials, deputies, state employees, especially those who later worked in precinct commissions. long before the elections , long before they began to write, well, in a personal channel and call phones to send messages with appeals. yes, with an insult, i still have some of them, you know, the most interesting thing i later saw was how the avatars changed depending on the situation, and then a lot of security officials really suffered. and it's
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real, we went also in the hospital and too saw broken arms and downed people, yes, machines and spines. it’s just that they didn’t show it on camera on purpose, and then a lot of interesting facts were hidden. it's under investigation now. this is a criminal case about the fact that there were staged videos, they really were. i saw them myself, so i can judge about it. the apartment was with a police uniform. yes, there were paddy wagons, well, the vans were made for tv, it was all the same, i emphasize the photographs that were used. made not in belarus here i meet with labor collectives. i often i show or tell about it, because there were photographs, let's say, uh from america uh, let's say, american prostitutes . why it was the fourteenth year, the seventeenth , we were so pumped up with emotions. i have
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why this is about it, because it personally affected me. there are a lot of people who fell for this a lot. i understand that you did not watch us. well, even when you made a choice between bet and this, that's why i say, maybe so much about it, but at that moment in at that moment, you at least understood that the picture that you were drawing, that this is a white coat, it is not completely white, well, i understand honestly. to be honest, i saw these already started it later. that is, when they have already gone. uh saw how the security forces in pinsk were pelted with stones, but already appeared after a month and a half. or that is, at that moment, these videos did not exist. yes, as far as how they poured all this on you there lily yes, i understand you perfectly, i went through hell. i went through my own life too. i i understand perfectly well what it is, well 12 that 's a plus. uh, and even in the twentieth year, they called me, so some people too, therefore, i perceive that i absolutely do not
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support it infuriates me, especially when something goes to children and i don’t categorically understand at all. well, uh, this must still be attributed to well-mannered people, a normal person, adequately brought up. uh, no matter what we have, but we won’t water each other’s points of view, uh, some substance, yes, then we can constructively talk there and argue there, but we won’t be friends pour on a friend. here, respectively. i agree. it seems to me that this is, in principle, a person, a purely human human nature, but look after all one thing, succumbing to emotions to go to rallies. yes, but let's ask an awkward question. yes, it's another matter what to enter or give consent to join the coordinating council yes in a free association of athletes, for example, yes. well, nadezhda. honestly, i looked at everything that concerns you over the past 10 years there. you have never been a party person. why and how you
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ended up, that's where in the twentieth year called maxim is a sign to me. we knew him a little. that is, he ran in the manezh, and there i pushed the ball to mine. hello. hello. hello. hello, i knew that i was doing triathlon. yeah, well, i don't know who's ringing, but i pick up the phone. he says this is the maximum sign. well, what the hell, he says, uh, here we have such an initiative. and alexander grigoryevich well , i heard he said that he wanted to talk to people. well, ready to talk there with this, that is, the people. yes , we want to make uh, such uh, gather people, eh uh from different areas of sports lawyer there. well, as you understand what it says to offer. uh, well, such a dialogue pad round table. well, there, on all of these, on all topics at that
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moment, which were. because i have such my position, i am for any dialogue for any negotiations. this is the ray of any confrontation on the streets there, than to beat the faces, there and so on , so i gave my consent, that is, well, no matter how there are no uh backgrounds, there was no other, like, yes, that is , then there was an organized meeting. this is what they chose the presidium, and the regulations were established further. hmm and then we started to start, some members of the president were detained, the rest left belarus and we got into such a dead end, as they say, how to do anything, that is, the president should deal with this dialogue. there is body organization. yes. and we, that is, it turns out, everything else without approximately, yes, and according to the regulations. and all people should be in belarus that is, some of our people left there, right? and in fact
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, that's all she is. that is, that initiative ended there. yes, further that there were some attempts to change something, to restructure some statements there. well, it was useless to write a case. yes, there, for example, i offered. well times we have already gathered experts in their fields. let's do something like, ah expert advice. yes, let's say something like a public initiative that a can help the state, let's say some law came out, lawyers analyzed it and suggested it. what where? what are the errors, that is, help. yes, well, my offers of support didn't find uh, and gradually on those it feels like it was that, well, people are moving away abroad, they already have people in belarus, uh, the distance is starting to grow understanding. yes, in the end. i just left the account. and what was your proposal , with which they agreed, and about that,
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let's make experts advice, that is , let's say, that is, from among those who remained from those who are people. yes, there, well, it was not provided for by the regulations and were looking for. what other options are possible, let's say that, in order to waste already, well, people gather, really literacy in professionals in the fields. here why can't we work for the good? well, what other suggestions were there? well, in general , at least the offer was like. do you think there were more such relationships? in fact , there was no offer. basically, only there they thought, how is it all to revive there, what to change there, so that, for example, a decision could be made abroad, but this contradicted this raglan, then, and, as it were, basically everyone was against that hmm well, when this part left, which he left, yes, they offered you to leave or there was a leave, well, the offer was an offer an opportunity was, but my position is such that i stay with belarus. i want to live here, i want. well , work, here i want there as much as possible that i can benefit here. well, here is
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a free association of athletes, in general, what it is and how free it was, and free association is an initiative around a letter that came to power in the twentieth year. that is, there is a question there for some kind of an athlete, yes, that is, these are just people who signed up for this , not an organization. this ain't no confusion from the fund there, yes, many are confused. it's true. this is our whole problem. problem a occurred because , that is, we really ordered at the beginning. uh, in our social networks , there is only a sports agenda to meet valery than not tournament players. there's some kind of co-branding there, that is, it was interesting for people to see the tops of our belarusian athletes. yes, the children were being photographed, and then, and then, on social networks , reposts began to appear calling for sanctions there, i say
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that guys. well well wrong well you understand where this is going. this will come. it doesn't matter what we recognize as an extremist before the ban. let's separate, anyway. well, by the way, the first time there , yes, the guys said ok. we deleted everything , removed everything there, yes, we continued to communicate further. ah, well, over time, everything went there again, like everything interfered with politics there, well, in the end, with buy, all these again went to the bann sanction in the country and so on. i say, well, everything is already, that is, so you say, you can be thankful. yes, well, they didn’t hear the truth of these, right? yes, and in the end, yes it happened. well, they recognized the social networks as extremist and, as it were, the initiative sunk, because there it would not deteriorate, so yes, the sports marketer just tells me, that is, this is an initiative. we were interested and could develop there for people. it's interesting, not athletes at all. especially for me, in general, such a feeling, however, that 's when you start talking about sports, but
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this is it. it's important, right? that's what you say, that's right, that's from the heart. that's it. iconic sporting events in the context of the whole world our girls performed very worthy 4.10.12 places you know the level of competition in russia today, which is why we hope that these are promising guys. they will in the future show the result of key news and sports facts of belarus as the flagship of belarusian football. and this, despite a significant renewal of the composition and a change in the coaching bridge, the formation and development of a new generation of belarusian athletes. today we can pay more attention to our hockey, so today we
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attract more children 40 places are vacated there for young guys. there is an opportunity to take young guys out of them to make stars. watch on belarus 24 tv channel. and we’re going on an expedition along the bushes of our ukraine to get to the place of pronunciation, we tried to drive 33 km at noon , i’m sitting at the new polissya that we’re treating the area, the name of the owl, the oldest cadets didn’t improve, how the young ear of not the groom will ring out . they did not translate yakim once, let's give the second tradition a new life. on
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our tv channel nadezhda, you know, i was struck by one moment, which i would like about it from you hear. you sold, in my opinion, in march of the twenty-first yes, your gold medal. yes, the european championship and the money was transferred to the sports solidarity fund, i will tell you the situation. yes, the money was a fund or a sports solidarity, he simply led, yes, and this money send, uh, the guys to their colleagues from athletics to training camps. that is, well, the contract ended there and they extended it, i decided to support them. that is, this money went to training in kenya, people together sent it to a genius. ah, that is, me and my post was written, what am i what this money is for. i want to help my colleagues and so on to achieve the same results that this is a business? i
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mean supported it was not so much a politician. how much just how sporty solidarity was e version of the zone is this question. true, after all, there were so many of these fees. those of these, well, funds, yes, in theory, they were supposed to support, it was possible to withdraw all those who left along the equator so that they ran a marathon with this money from the fund, where are they going? i'm like, i just wanted to help specific people, so i specifically helped people know for me an indicator. well, i’m not an athlete, but for me it was indicative that gerasimena now, when she announced her withdrawal from this sports solidarity fund yes, because there , according to her, corruption became obvious and it was not clear where the money had gone and no one could say. why can't you just show it. uh, expense items. okay, that's not my area. i'll ask better as a broadcaster. yes, i have questions about the videos that were posted with you. yes, but coordinating
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council. so, when you spoke, how would it be under this signboard coordinating council? here, write abbreviate for journalists, this is a principle that was specially invented, yes, in order to make speech human and more understandable to the viewer. well, you have there, when you speak, here is a solid periodically expand your horizons yes, worthy people, a prosperous country. now you are talking to me like a normal person. yes, and there you talked like an official, but you are not officials. where are these stamps from? i don't wrote therefore. well, of course, i won’t ask who wrote it, i don’t know if it was a prompter. yes, probably, most likely, each recorded separately. then it was just nailed down. i don't remember, really. there was just a montage from all the cutting was, therefore, well, yes, there was a cutting. ok then.
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okay, look here. hope you are young. well, let's go back again. you were going to go to law school. we would then be with you not only fellow countrymen, but also colleagues in education, but in the end not have you submitted your documents yet? and they entered the historical. well, look from the point of view of the law, you admit, yes, that you attended unauthorized mass events. well, the authorities repeatedly warned about this, yes , the people who went out. well, look, at the same time in the legal aspects of doping. i remember your words. yes, if a prohibited substance enters the body of athletes, then the athlete is to blame, regardless of the method. that is, you never admitted to using doping knowingly, but allowed and did not refuse to take responsibility, as i understand it. just like an athlete. now you can draw these parallels between one external, really very simple
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, in fact, laws. these are the same rules as in sports, yes, and in the rules, let's say, spoiled is indicated, let's say a substance got into it. it doesn't matter there. there she helped uh, or there accident yes also, well, how would you be responsible for well for the hit. yes, the law is not needed here, it doesn’t matter either, he succumbed to her emotions. there on someone we are influence and so on. i went out, that is , before that i had to turn on my sober there and thought that i was still breaking the law. so yes, i broke the law. yes, i'm this here, i fully recognized admitted my guilt and, as it were, i do not deny anything. and then let's, maybe about historical education. yes, a little since we remembered that's hope really you never flashed a thought. yes, in the twenties, when something is wrong with these rallies that you called carnival , that it doesn’t look like politics at all. it's not carnival, it's not so bright
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action. uh, you know, there's a good german expression for politics, you become myozaha. yes , politics is a dirty business. and so it remains today and this moment. here you are a historian. you understand perfectly well that this is such a bright picture, and behind this there is something else, when this came, and a little later, of course, at the beginning, well, you understand when everything is new and unusual. it always attracts, that is, the text. for the sake of extradi- maybe you've never seen this before. yes, that is, people became there, well, they stood in a chain with flowers beautiful people. yes, of course, it swears attention. yes, it seems like, well, something is not something unusual. yes, but on the other hand, of course. you will analyze it a little before ordering and i understand that after all , politics is a more serious matter. and it's not some kind. uh, the carnival parade and other things that are still here, uh, the fate of the state is being decided, there are presidential elections there, therefore, yes, but let me ask you directly. here you , uh, read the training manual, sharpe is not there. no. well,
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it’s true, in vain there will be an opportunity to read it, please, it was written 50 years ago. yes and you will learn a lot of interesting things for yourself, but in your opinion. so i'll say, maybe because i'm constantly afraid of this. yes, i often ask this question, you have the right not to know the answers to it. but when i ask people to meet. believe me, the picture is about always the same, which i will say later. yes, what kind of color revolution, in your opinion, became the prototype and complete prototype of what happened in belarus in the twentieth. well , they directly put in such that i am generally associated with revolutions in revolutions there leninist girl. well, yes, therefore, yes, i kind of, it’s really difficult for me to draw some parallels that i didn’t follow there, i don’t know if it was a revolution at all. was it a protest, or were there some kind of disorder, so i really won’t answer this question for you here. i will listen to your responsibility. well, let's do it this way, i'm probably not going to tell you the lecture in full about it
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. well, really, i really want you to read it and see for yourself. well first, look at which ball you will see your actions. there are still painted second. here in the nineteenth year, when there were riots in hong kong, you know there, here i am for myself simply, when i would read about it and i just had a deja vu feeling that was chasing me at every turn. because the coordination of people's actions through instant messengers. there it was applied to the full extent. yes, that is, people just walked down the street, they were told on the phone, you go right, you go left. here is a dead end, here is a state building and it needs to be poured with paint there or there and so on blinding. uh, security officials with pointers. e, there there were massively people in white clothes with white flowers. well, it was true in the cube, but there it was everything in the complex, and doctors against violence without fail disabled people in wheelchairs protesters of a separate category university students as a separate
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target group, which you know the impact on, and this is an insult state symbols without fail and an attempt to storm the state institution publication there it was all and so, when you look at it in the complex. you understand very well that they say there in yugoslavia it was the same in georgia. yes, there were elements of clothing, but in such a way that it was so comprehensive exactly a year before our events. please read, of course. it's just, well, i advise a lot of people that then understanding comes. it’s real that they led you by the nose, and even from above they laughed at you like that. well, okay, the athlete has hope in the shot put at the olympics. six tries. why, i don’t know how many attempts were made in belarus for the next revolutions. yes, but another attempt to break the core of independent belarus, she failed. well let's talk straight. and why in your opinion? now you can already look at it soberly, what lacked the explosive power of coordination, maybe
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some money? i'll probably judge for myself. yes, probably it wasn’t enough, i don’t know anything, i’ll say that it was enough, probably , awareness to people, and who gradually came that, well, it’s still some kind of something abnormal that manipulates us, because we have e , pushing on the security forces. yes, there , like, they create these all these here, but i think that thanks. the prudence of people is what people nevertheless, they realized that it was wrong, that it should not be like this. yes? this is probably all because of the slurp. as far as i understand, you did not immediately understand this. a? of course not, there, when at the beginning, no, i'll say, i'll say, i'll say, when i understood, yes, i'll tell you, it was some kind of another mars yes, rather, i even it was, probably, the second march-athletes . yes , when we are square and go it is not clear where i am talking, it leads somewhere socially. yes, that is , everyone looked there, they will write somewhere there
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oil is yes. well, in short, we'll find it with the guys. i say listen. well damn, well, why go there at all? where are we going? yes? suddenly, they didn’t come, but rather canceled it ; roads were blocked there opposite. i say and why would it come? that is, well, in fact , we were mixed after this. yes , i have already come to an understanding, and i have already stopped attending all the events there, that, well, it's just useless, well, it just leads you. and then, when other meetings began, these were already in detention. well, how much can you endure, really there, and the authorization of the event is clear that security forces are doing work to hold back there. well, they appeared there, uh, they immediately grabbed them and detained them there, that is, there, well, that is, it’s clear that it’s already gone just like that people. well , well, you are a girl with a character. well, really, i know it. i saw it. and even when you were involved in these doping scandals. yeah well, really your character was a video. well
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, rather than you, well, some kid begins to lead with such people. well, the truth, which are known in the world in the world is not something you know, here, probably always want to sit say that your choice is your decision. well , sometimes you see it happens. this is where you get into it. well, then only you reach. well, that you’re not writing your decision, you know what it’s for, so that you get used to listening to the coaching staff, most likely, after all , the athletes are colleagues, you know, there ’s not at all, there’s more, probably, it was just me i always have too, because i have friends and colleagues who have achieved something in life. and yes, i really don't. well, how can a person be so knocked out of for him to listen. here are those drug addicts. excuse me, but those people who urged you on, where are they now? they all left, in my opinion, they all all left,
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who set up went together, and you communicate with someone now at all, well, until recently we communicated, periodically communicated. well, well, they already parted a little there, that is, people live their lives, and then they communicated quite rarely. look here. i think that only athletes know, yes , some titanic work to be number one in the world. yes, sobolenko's latest event. this year she won her first grand slam title and the truth is. here is the whole country i myself saw. and well, the people were really sick, but she received not only congratulations, but also a tub of slops from our former white colleagues, yes , yours and ours. that's what. well, that's real, well, how would you congratulate. well, i'm taking advantage of our opportunity. i want now i directly congratulate. uh. she deserved to win very well played. and uh, it really is
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a title. well deservedly and got. but with regard to this, watering is not good. yes, and i i've been through this too and i totally understand it. well, as for my colleagues, uh, who do it? yes, hmm, here already, as we spoke with you above. it also depends on the upbringing of the person. if he is rotten inside, then he will do it, but about arina, i can only give advice to learn to live with it, or use it to translate it into some kind of energy that will help you win further. oh well, and then, good luck in the future, something to us as much as possible . the maximum that i could win everything. you understand that really the hat is the guardian yes, it's annoying. and even more so when you clearly understand that you did not deserve it. here you have this situation happens, and you went through it, and why do people who understand?
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it is they who are so afraid to speak out in defense of those who are. well, even just tell your opinion guys. well, it's wrong, even if you and i are the only supporters, even if we are on the same side do not, because this is not a person, not humanly. i think that if a person has already done this, then it is unlikely, because you will prove, that is, if he has already fallen for such a time, yes, now, in my opinion, this is the same as talking to the wall. well, look, now thanks to sanctions. yes, there is no inscription on the cup belarus is true, this is not the worst thing of all, of course, the fact that there were no paralympians at the paralympics was the last one. that's scary, you'll never really understand. what did these people do wrong, it was some kind of thing. not that it's not a sporting act. she made you a human act some kind of person was. you understood this, of course, then i, in my opinion, did not even hide
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this. i say, damn it. well, of course, to do so with the disabled, of course , in a bestial way. the right word honestly i would like though every athlete who thinks so bestial. let him then come to us and say, guys, this is bestial, or at least post it on facebook well, then who wins from these sanctions? that's real. well, i’m not even talking about sports things in general, yes, in principle, sanctions, that sports, that in the economy are not in principle, it seems, probably, yes, in everything in their effect. yes no one wins in them loses everything in fact and you know, uh, such taxes were about sanctions? why, but it's on fire, they want to fine the driver. yes, the driver violated, and the rules of the road fined all the bus. yes, a passenger. yes, that’s why, that is, why do we really have to suffer people , as it were, to really understand this too, but as for, let’s say sports, that is , spoil the sanctions, but as we see, and the support of the head
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of state to support our everyone. walkie-talkies of the ministry and so on are created maximum conditions to people, and this, of course, is difficult to compensate for the loss of international competitions. yes, it is necessary to at least minimize this loss. as uh guberniya said about biathlon. yes, what is clear that the level will drop? yes, it will still fall, because it doesn’t, but at least it should be a minimal fall, so that when our guys have the opportunity to go to the petals of the game, they adapt as quickly as possible. uh, we gained experience and showed the maximum result, and for this, and different religions are being created there. various people are looking for some old partners wherever possible. well, yes, with whom you can do it, and at the highest level, all this is supported, headed by alexander grigorievich. well, look, you want to become. well, in any case, as i understand
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the sports functionaries. yes, well, that is, you have this kind of vein, that is. yes, you are talking about it with pleasure, yes, here, i understood this right away, as soon as you started talking about sports and about organizations, specifically, but in order for even this to take place. let's talk straight. yes, these competitions should be, yes, and secondly, we should participate in them, because this is the olympic principle. yes, the sport is outside the police and well, let's say, right, even when, in ancient times , the olympic games began, wars ended, but it was a rule like that. maybe i want a lot from you, but honestly your word is something, which means it is significant in the world community. let's be blunt, you 've achieved the kind of success that most, overwhelming athletes have. never in my life achieve. maybe even just, well, he'll hear you. you will be heard that, well, really guys, let's go for politics. do
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sports politics, we will do sports all together, and especially when it comes to paralympic athletes. for me, this monster is, by the way, bestial. i salute with both hands. because when you are a person getting ready, 4 years old, the future one is already a little bit different, not that it is infringing, by nature. they are not hurt, that's for sure. well, yes, nature has decreed that in the relations of the paralympians, but they wanted to take part, and i'm sure that if, uh, you are like you, if you say a word, you will be heard , too, by our handsome tailor policy. unfortunately, sport has long been part of politics. unfortunately, here is the problem from 11 here. politics is a little bit like sports, so that at least it doesn’t climb at least minimally, but it’s very difficult to do it on superheavy. and for this, even athletes from all over the world should support this. and that is hard to say. no, that is, it must be some kind of consolidation. uh, because at
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the state level did not, that is to do hope well, let's speak directly. at you also have surely every famous athlete in belarus in russia yes. in any country there are a lot of the same athletes in other countries with whom they competed together and were friends. well let's talk straight drinking. yes, they sat down at the same table, and there they almost slept on neighboring couches. yes, it is normal. this is called communication, human communication, which brings people very close, but these contacts, as they say behind the scenes, they have much more meanings and roles than. how do you say cabinet? solution well let's just say it's these contacts that solve the main issues. that is, not these, but publicly with broadcasting there, or there are some forums that are not decided. yes, everything is somewhere on the sidelines there at the level of personal acquaintances, as
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if all that remains is to live. yes, to make it happen. well, let's just say you didn't have this feeling that, well , to put it mildly, your well-known name was used at some point, but, of course, let's say, when let's say, the fund makes some kind of statement, yes, and he on behalf of free athletes, well, which i, as it were, too involved, yes, but i kind of answered my question, like, they said there. here's my reasonable question. actually. like, but when i said something, yes, like, well, this is a general wording, but they are also athletes, like you are athletes, that is, well, they took advantage, of course, they even literally used it, in my opinion, recently there was also another some kind of statement. there is a whole person there, something was said there. there, there it is against, there the number of users allowed our athletes. yes, i just looked at the list of the site. i'm sorry, but you were the one there cool. from the point of view of the merit of achievement, but the truth is, it is clear that such a flag will bring, well
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, really only creative motives were moving. i am the most peaceful person in belarus. i'm not talking about that. i'm talking about the fact that when such people are raised like the banner, yes, this is very good. you can use. well, this is my opinion, i can judge about it. hope let me try to ask the last question. yes conclude extreme in this conversation. it's true, i really enjoyed talking to you. i was afraid. i tell you about it bluntly said at the very beginning. yes , even before we sat down on these chairs. i sincerely sincerely want your life to improve. indeed, i want you to become a good sports functionary. everything in the sports field returned to its full circle and we met again. here in this studio for an interview, but they were already talking not about problems and revolutions, but about some motivating things. well, it’s true,
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so that they would tell me then that yes, i read the scarf. uh, and you know, well, she was surprisingly short-sighted, yes in this regard. well, in your opinion, if suddenly this happens, what could this conversation be about, as you can see, it will really happen. and if i really provide such an opportunity there, but help our sport, yes , there it is better to make it better to do it qualitatively. yes, we will meet and discuss. what heights has he reached? what has changed? and what our guys have achieved. how did we get through this difficult time? i think it will anyway. he liked it today. yes, i think you from next time will definitely like our communication too. i i know for sure that the problems in sports are higher than the roof , the president speaks about this at every meeting, enough. yes, it’s true, criticizing i propose i propose a case.
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so, it just remains for me to really wish that you had such an opportunity, and that you could direct your strength to solve these problems in the right direction, because for all of us this is extremely important, well, on my own i promise, i will do everything, that i that everything is possible, that it depends on me. thanks for this size. thank you for deciding to come here correctly let you in for a visit. a native minsker goes to the village to find out from its inhabitants, why is it better than the city of smorgon? there were nuances. there's a name nearby built. we somehow went to some historical place than with factories. how did the locals react? here's to such your mureniya. i think they
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for 25 kilometers. and you will have an unforgettable time in this place, skin man. i wanted to spend our city gauge, the show write here the fish was with them to bring the stone. well, which ones could you lift? see who we have here. here we are. so, in my opinion, zaporozhets yes, well, here is one of the first they must complete all the tasks and complete the quest. from what word the name of the city comes from, maybe the river name of the king's daughter is somehow connected with the legend, nevertheless, to convince the task led me here to the elevator and the center of culture and folk art. and what we will do and help them with stone, scissors and paper, see on our tv channel.
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