tv -24 BELARUSTV February 14, 2023 2:00am-3:00am MSK
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and he will tell and write such architecture. i just guessed romance by its interest in the way of thinking. it was just that the hadji of a man from their watch was not about russian style, it was very easy to decipher. looking over the shervon, the glorious majesty of the walls, minak takti, inaksh associated him modestly, and the kremlin's fierce clock was the so-called center of the russian soul from once in a few persons in privacy. e. vladislav milyanovsky man, yaki, uh, was an engineer and architect. ae yun ae, permish max is the author of several dozen orthodox churches, and which manifested themselves in the mogilev region, blaming this experience, yong to be himself in the projection of architecture.
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the young architect, who didn’t look around at all the ambitiousness of the project , sat down on the gty of his veda, but immediately along the gangway of the unia, you ’ll stop it capaciously. in a place near the eighteenth stogoddy a castle was placed, surrounded by a water pool, then the aleuts fell asleep in it in 1886, and they bumped into it countrymen's curtains or ditches for mortuary stands only at a depth of ten canteen meters. do you know the firm gleb and so called? yes? and this instantly the sovereign had to save on the future motor by turning only what was underground. it was not bold to correct this rubble
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stone. however , the old-timers reached the plinth to the kalib . so ziyaishenelha was to bring out the walls, around the circumference of budovnitsa theater alas, a grandiose sum for a provincial city resulted in the sum alone of the front balcony on the oak tree. bypassed everything at one and a half thousand rubles. and at home, 55,000 of them have this amal twice as much, the planned persha of a sub-shoulder amount, a covered pear , it was possible to equip 75 guards officers of higher rank from scratch, in total, give more to the skin bend of a half-haired hut. petersburg had 100 rubles left.
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the mogilev theater was inspired with a red cichla and may a folded three-dimensional composition , a simple, rounded end shape the wall of the head facade near two vezha-like volumes came in handy along the border of the hemi, there was a vestibule, with a balcony they didn’t tank on the left. in the gray-haired, the short elements of the early molded in the white kolya and s. the pressure of the facades brought calmness to the russian duel, guarding the kokoshniks on the windows for mosquitoes and ornaments in the film, it is important to understand that the choice is to shoot a non-colonel. the russian empire is having its new identity. eh, the conscience of the visonts. i would like to be third. and here i am to
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this you can prove crazy. with the help of cultural meetings, i'm just a byzantine such architecture came at the right time with epiphany, and it swam seriously, alerting the so-called guarding the russian shame and its history that i passed with a sigh. at the end of the nineteenth century. so this is already a salon of a political project, yonda helped to prove, i paint the russians that i don’t mind the witch’s original power culture. this is the hour of creation of the nation. this is a nation of creativity from victoriously. mogilevsky is one of these outposts, or do you want such a new culture of the russian empire, an important factor in the emergence and formation of not about russians the point was that it was not the architects who unraveled it.
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the head of the bridge will jump off the architectural traditions of the foundations and rules, such an approach helped up to 60 new visual identification of the booths inspired by the non-arussian style, the pseudo-russian style with its initial meaning ceased to be just a national stabilization of the byzantine minavita cooled down with its transformation of half moons, and it is crushed in such traditions our leg gromat buddhism flanks. the hunting terrace protrudes on such motifs as the colonel used to. they're so into it, so is that it? well and what are you doing there, some other forms go about images, so that they live russian. akushniki such elements, what sixteenth century
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came? well, here you can cheer up their hall was embittered for 500 people, the placement and design of the puddle was spied on at the warsaw small theater, and the stage was placed according to italian technology, and it looked like this behind a small and free from heavy decorations to climb up the fuckers, dokoratsiya and father and walks the corners of the expanses, they improve at the feasts of the bottom , the plan is one to the bottom, alas, some kind of deep perspective. i can sterilize it for any landscape and the idea of directing is experimental, yes.
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and the view was given for one function with one wave of the function to look at some kind of video and that the functionality based on eight we walked spread out the foyer and this line from there is an otter on the wilm, kind of understandable, not forgotten anywhere and you hold it here you are, it’s the wounded bottles that tell fortunes, for everything 100% of the interior was updated according to old drawings balconies and robbery of the box, the benoir, the governor's box you the first vestibule the coat of arms of mogilev on the lyapnin chair. from rude in the foyer of the cualara corridors and service cluttered decor, now sshastnoy, however , strangely, sterilized under the original warm
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bottle for providing them were fifteen. the skin hero of this project, we are an ideological person, how a child can learn to eat with a spoon when no one in front of him will do it in the same way and with happiness. you have to show your child every day. how to live happily when i am at home, i think about what i should do tomorrow, what am i preparing for? what are my a studies, what should i do? which the task of distributing to specialists clearly had a very similar one. merry began to train for five
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the mogilev theater is one of the worst in europe in terms of the acoustics of the acoustics, on the right , it is quiet that industrial niches were cut down near the walls for the correct deployment of the gook, and under the stage the beaten gook was scattered around . childbirth. here it is true that she even bushes and cheeky armchairs. inside the pit, the material, perhaps, will go away resonant effect? fine.
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it was from chopped. several razolty ator were reconstructed in 1912. the bottle was rebuilt in the rear. previously , there was a veranda where an orchestra played for a place on weekends. i awakened her three concrete walls. budinok with tried to tremble at the parade alley with non-staining yakiva material, crossed themselves. savings about budovstvo thought to himself at the walls, probably declared a split faintness. reaped the sag sprinkled on the facade at the replanting of the twenties astahode. the mogilev theater was more tidied up from you, the pressure of the district police elements with white gypsum were corrected. in the seventies, there were minutes of qiglu, they went to whiten with sharon on white, the worst for everything. this is not a reasonable procedure modsna-sapsovala original. i kiss myself. the theater
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had a massive theatre, hacked up with an outstanding red tsekhla. maybe everyone. this is azba. yana was white in color, which thrashed the contrast and silently, uh, centered the respect of the heated elements, and all in all, in the russian style, such men reached out to their theater yak center , a public place in the city of kazalova. about the fact that the russian empire is here for sure and for a long time in 1985 the ministry of culture. i wanted bottles together, and at this place to visit the new theater already the skill was obtained pennies codes for the city of seldnica , tired of defending their hotels and defending the theater came off ali checked out at home. go only designs. of course, i went more than 15 cities, i was at the matzo fund. ment
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, including me, but since you expressed a desire for this interview. i want to try to understand you, maybe you will understand me, you know, that's the first question. let's go straight. yes, that's why you wanted to come to this studio? i think we will definitely have an interesting conversation on this first. why me came? i think my experience a-a will be interesting. ah, mine made. there is an expression, and learn from the mistakes of others. i think that, well, as usual, we do not comply with this, unfortunately, you just start on your own. i don't care. well, suddenly someone still needs the opportunity to recognize themselves in me and also analyze their actions, so i think that this interview will be. well , no wonder it will be interesting. well, look, i've seen your other interviews and i remember one in particular. you couldn't make up your mind in blitz. eh, which of us would be worse than you
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or unt. eh, if the brand, right? so, when i looked, i immediately had a question why, after all, i knew that you would ask this question, the delayed choice took place no offense. i just didn't know you either, so it's hard for me to make a choice. and when you know what, respectively. okay, uh, but then you were wearing a belarusian darmate t-shirt. yes, i did not expect, of course, today to see you merch first. uh, well, here are the state symbols. e, there is e. i enjoy seeing her. nadezhda tell me straight, you managed at least a little somehow here is to change their attitude to the state symbols. that is, all the time they once performed under it. well, let's not open it. eh, and this saying you had a little bit of an alternative. but after all, another reason for this interview is that i will dispel this stereotype of the myth
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that i had some kind of negative attitude towards state symbols. and i have absolutely positive. i performed under our green flag for many, many years. this is all ninety-six-fifth year, and therefore i don’t understand why, and this is what formed here is an opinion such that i have some kind of negative. i honestly saw that directly said that more you uh? red-green there is worse there uh bchb never said. yes , our history was just like that, that it was like this, and this stage is like that, all people chose this in a referendum. e, respectively, i found all this, so what other disputes can there be? and what concerns there said. well, here, probably, again , a stereotype formed somewhere, or it seemed there on purpose, perhaps they were formed, despite the fact that victory were under these colors of such a concept, i did not invest in this expression. well, first of all, i kind of like history. yes, how close it would be to me, well
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, there is a theme there, ours is there, as the development of our country, therefore, it’s possible for me so, but to these symbols. well, such an even relationship is simply perceived calmly. calmly, this is our simple strength. well, i, too, once was, sort of in a row. yes, and also went under the e, even if the flag, but it was a certain historical period, when this symbolism was present e. as there is just everything, well, you know, everything has changed, probably, 2020 in the mind first of all changed and well, now unfortunately , yes, probably, most likely, they just started counting their flags to separate people, this is the worst thing that happened. that is, as if by themselves flags. they don't beat or kill anyone. why, when people use them, er, in malicious intent. eh, such an opinion is formed accordingly. well , here i will fully support me with the truth. i am pleased to see you in this sports uniform. yes, i remember from a psychological thriller. uh, the girl with the dragon tattoo. at
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you, too, are such a dragon. yes, there is a small one, right? well, life now is like a psychological drama with a criminal tinge. i'm actually humanly interested, well, and it's important, that was your decision. after all, you were absolutely not a political person, yes, far from politics. why did you plunge into all this in the twentieth year yourself, or did someone bring you there, if you are talking about marches? yes, uh, well, it doesn't matter at all the date of the march, of course i probably, it was my choice. yes, after all this informational pressure there, when who to whom you don’t call, you don’t write what you saw there, you heard, as it were, therefore, yes? on the 16th i went to mars there really was my decision. these were my emotions. i very much empathize with a person who empathizes with this, and therefore here yes, and there, as far as there is further there
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, these mashas are there, and here this one probably already worked. uh, factor called me there. levchenko, for example, says, the guys are going to the athletes are going to get together, than mars will you go? well, you already know already there works like this, and colleagues are friends. moreover, i can not see each other, there are 8-10 there. well, naturally, as it were, i went further there for the company there with the guys to talk there like. ah, that's why, i don't know how, let me, rather, here, probably, there, partly mine, partly there, i succumbed to some kind of influence there, and so on. it's true. well , there is hope that they tried to consciously bring us all to these emotions. well, it's obvious. naturally yes. well, i mean, now you understand. understand when you are in this thick of these events, when you have no
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other alternative points of view. and now it's accumulating accumulating accumulating you make an emotional decision not rational, but emotional uh, all these actions are just me, uh, you have purely emotions with your guidance. yes, of course, over time, well, everything went there, they poured it, the passion fell there, you understand there? well, damn it, well, yes i did, well, as it were, it was clear that it was against the law to have an unauthorized one. well apologize. yes, you yourself just wanted to become lawyers. well, it didn't work out. yes you are a truly strong woman. well, let's get straight, yes, well, even the very fact that you are here today speaks about this and i'm not only talking about the core. yes, i'm not only talking about the core, because i admit my mistakes. this is generally the lot of strong people, and the lot of other strong people. farewell, now they are talking a lot about this , send the president a lot of controversy, yes around this topic, but the president
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has a clear position. the return of our people to their homeland, who was wrong? who did not commit a crime and we can say that they should not stay on the sidelines. these are literally his words. moreover, he has already signed a decree corresponding to the commission that will work on the return of these people. yes, well , here here, help me how to understand in your opinion in people. who speaks sincerely, and who simply pretends to return to hide under the plinth and will wait, as they say, for brighter times. here is the question. let 's, we'll probably break out of canadian athletes, that is, at the beginning, but they said about a strong woman, but yes, i'm like, well, here's my position life my character brought up sport there since childhood, as it were, yes. i fully admitted my mistake fully admitted that i broke the law with uh. but i do not deny my guilt , i did not deny it, and they will deny it. this is about the first part of our first part , the second part, that alexander grigoryevich
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made such a shah and such, uh, such, proposed such an initiative. and i'm the only one with two hands for it, i fully support it. a and. a: if it is, if it will allow people, people are actually already tired against the confrontation of this. return home to hug family. uh, all the more so ahead of us are the holidays easter radonitsa to go to the cemetery to visit relatives. this is a very good, correct, competent step here. i fully support as much as the third part of your question is that how to understand how to understand, yes, but i think that you still need to be positive, well, to people, that is, do not immediately look for any then there are enemies, that is. well, i guess anyway people who really want to come back will go, well, who didn't do anything bad man's head hat is on fire, who committed some crime, he will not go. well, they're afraid, but about just
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trusting trusting trusting people, because some opinion has really changed in this. they realized it. here's to sit in front of you live examples. yes, i calmly communicate with you, there i did exactly the same act as many of them, right? well, are you at home now? now i'm already at home, yes, but see hope here, in fact. you are an example you are an outstanding athlete and athletes. yes? let's talk straight and people who light up the screen creatively celebrities are so-called leading those who work on television. this is always an example for many. this is a role model to a certain extent. opinion leader, yes, and that's why you were. well, let's speak directly to you, it was the person's bet that was known throughout the country. but how do you imagine, well, i will say in a dry wording, this is active repentance, how it should look. in order to be believed is not always the interview is very difficult, let's say how to say at all.
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yes? well, look, but yes, i'm just here i am living example. i came to you. i communicate with you openly and explain, well, of course, they won’t. yes, great. well, they made it a commission. yes, probably they are possible, i don't know, yes, how it will work. yes? perhaps there will be some points there explaining. why did the person act like this and so on? yes, even i think it's even banal the same uh fact that a person has already returned here. he already type and appealed to the commission. that is, he already realized that, that is, he was converted. yes, he already admitted that he did something. let's discuss how like we're not even in the studio. now, if i were at your house, yes, we would sit down for a cup of tea and in fact. i wanted them to come to visit you. and maybe to talk there, but i think that i'm more used to it here, after all, it's more of my complexes. but look how i see it. can you support me or tell me. that somewhere i'm wrong, here a person made a post, let's say, at that moment, yes, he made
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an emotional post on his instagram page . he indicated that he is against, uh, violence, that you need to go out? yes, and so on. and this post is basically served as a definition of his position, that is , a trigger for others, someone oriented himself to him. after that, we'll put it right. and here it is, and it's bigger. yes, he didn’t do anything illegal there, that is, he didn’t write nasty things, he didn’t call for violence there, or he didn’t leak data into the black book of the chkkb, belarus that’s what he should do in your opinion, will the same post be enough, well, the same post. here, how do you see it? in the same way, on the same platform, he spoke out and said, yes, guys, i was mistaken. and maybe, yes, well, as it were, i'm not me, let's say i don't want to force someone to force. it must be a conscious choice. that is, if a person is ready to do it, then let him do it. that is, well, then it will be clear, honest and and. well, it's open. that is, well, you see, the most important thing is that it be really sincere, because
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i know such people and very many who really, and at that moment they were ready to tear me apart. true, they believed that i was personally responsible for what they saw, and then it turned out that after a week they had enough there some for a month or two yes, well, look, we have already touched on this topic, yes, emotions. i would like to continue it a little. if you allow it personally, at that moment you knew that, for example, yes, a journalist there was a gosmey official, a deputy, state employees, especially those who later worked in precinct commissions. long before the elections , long before they began to write, well, in a personal channel and call phones to send messages with appeals. yes, with an insult, i still have some of these, you know, the most interesting thing i later saw how they changed avatars depending on the situation, and then really a lot of security officials suffered. and it's really we went also in the hospital and also
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saw broken arms and downed people, yes, cars and spines. it’s just that they didn’t show it on camera on purpose, and then a lot of interesting facts were hidden. right now, this criminal case is being investigated over the fact that there were staged videos, they really were. i saw them myself, so i can judge about it. the apartment was with a police uniform. yes, there were paddy wagons, well, the vans were made under the federal law, this was all the same, i also emphasize the photographs that were used. made not in belarus here i meet with labor collectives. i often show or tell about it, because there were photographs, for example, from america , uh, for example, american prostitutes. why was it the 14th year, the seventeenth different , we were so pumped up with emotions. i have why this is about it, because it personally affected me. there are a lot of people
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who fell for this a lot. i understand that you are us didn't look. well, even when you made a choice between betey and this, that's why i'm talking about it, maybe there is so much about it, but at that moment at that moment you at least understood that the picture that you were drawn, that this is a white coat , it's not quite white, well, it's understandable honestly. that's honestly, i was sitting already started this later. that is, when they have already gone. uh , i saw how the security forces in pinsk were stoned. ah can emerged already through and a half months. that is, at that moment, these videos did not exist. yes, what concerns, how are you there did you water it all? yes, i understand you perfectly, i went through hell. i went through my own life too. i perfectly understand what it is. well, 12%. yes , plus. uh, and even in the twentieth year, they called me, so some people too, therefore , i perceive that i absolutely do not support it infuriates me, especially when something goes
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to children and i don’t categorically understand at all. well, uh, this must still be attributed to well-mannered people, a normal person, adequately brought up. uh, no matter what we have, but the points of view will not be each other water, uh, some substance. yes, we can constructively talk there and argue there, but we will not pour each other over. here, respectively. i will agree. it seems to me that this is, in principle, a person, a purely human human nature, but look after all one thing, succumbing to emotions to go to rallies. yes, but let me ask an awkward question. yes, it's another matter what to enter or give consent to join the coordinating council yes in a free association of athletes, for example, yes. well, nadezhda, honestly, i looked at everything that you concerns over the last 10 years there. you have never been a party person. why and how you ended up, that's where in the twentieth year
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maxim called me a sign. we knew him a little. that is, he ran in the manezh, and there i pushed the ball to mine. hello. hello. hello. hello, i knew that i was doing triathlon. yeah, well, i don't know who's ringing, but i pick up the phone. he says, this is maxim, the sign says, this is uh, here we have such an initiative. and alexander grigorievich well, i heard he showed up because he wants to be talking to people. well, ready to talk there with this, that is the people of this guy. yes, we want to make uh, such uh, to gather people, and there is a lawyer from different areas of sports. well, how do you understand the maximum wide such and says to offer, well, such a dialogue platform for a round table. well, there, on all of these , on all topics at that moment, which were . because i have such my position, i am for
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any dialogue for any negotiations. this is the ray of any confrontation in the streets there, than to beat the faces, there and so on, so i gave my consent, that is, well, no matter how there uh background, there was no other, as it were, yes, that is, then there was an organizational meeting. this is what the president chose, and the regulations were stopped further mm. and then they went to the beginning with the bosses detained the members of the president of the mind, and the rest left belarus and we got into such a dead end, as they say, how to do anything, that is, the president should deal with this dialogue. there is body organization. yes. and we, that is, it turns out, bring everything else to him without, yes, and according to the regulations. and all people should be in belarus, that is, we have a part of people left, but more more. and in fact , that's all she is. that is, that
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initiative ended there, yes, and then there were some attempts to do something, but to change and restructure some statements there. well, you wrote a useless case. yes , there, for example, i offered. well times we have already gathered experts in their fields. let's do something like, ah expert advice. yes, let's say there is something like a public initiative that a can help the state, let's say some law was passed by lawyers, they analyzed it, they suggested it, where there are errors, that is, to help. oh well, we continued support didn't find it. e, and gradually on those, there was such a feeling that, well, people are moving away abroad, they already have people in belarus, uh, the distance is starting to grow understanding. yes, in the end. i just left the account. and what was your proposal , with which they agreed, and about that, let's make expert advice, that is , let's say, that is, from among those who remained from those who are people. yes, there, well, it
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was not provided for by the regulations and were looking for. which you can still have options, let's say that, in order to waste already, well, people gather, really literacy in professionals in the fields. that's why we can't work for the good? well, what other suggestions were there? well, in general, the proposal was at least like do you think, there were no more such proposals in fact, basically, they only thought how to revive everything there, how to change it there, so that, for example, a decision could be made abroad, but this contradicted that raglan, that and, as it were, basically everyone was against that hmm well, when this part left, that left, yes, they offered you to leave or there was, well, the offer was the offer there was an opportunity, but my position is that i stay with belarus. i want to live here. i want. well, work, here i want there as much as possible that i can benefit here. well, here is a free association of athletes
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, in general, what does it represent and how free it was, and free association is an initiative around a letter that came to power in the twentieth year. that there is a question there, some that you signed up with, yes, that is, these are just people who signed up for this, not an organization. this is not to be confused from the background there, yes, many are confused. it's true. this is our whole problem . problem a occurred because, that is, we really ordered at the beginning. uh, in our social networks , it’s not the tournament players who meet valery to treat only the sports agenda. there's some kind of co-branding there, that is, it was interesting for people to see the tops of our belarusian athletes. yes, the children were photographed and transferred to a then, and started in social networks , reposts began to appear calling for sanctions there, there i say that guys, well, wrong well, you understand where this will all come to. it will come.
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it doesn't matter what we recognize as an extremist before the ban. let's separate, anyway. well, by the way, the first time there, yes, the guys said ok. we deleted everything, removed everything there, yes, we continued to communicate further. ah, well, over time, everything went there again, like everything interfered with politics there, well, s-skills with buy, all these again, uh, ban-sancia in the country, and so on. i say well everything is already, that is, so you say, you can be thankful. yes, well, they didn’t hear, however, these are right, and in the end, and so it happened. well, social networks were recognized as extremist and, as it were, the initiative sunk , because there was undeniable to hear, therefore, yes, the sports marketer just says in me, that is, this initiative was interesting, and it was possible to develop there for people. this is interesting not for athletes at all. especially for me, in general, such a feeling, however, that's when you start talking about sports, here it is. this is what you say, right here from the heart.
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traveling around belarus and discovering new sights, another attraction. bridles. the tomb of the zavish clan personally, it reminds me of a miniature egyptian pyramid, but few people know that besides it, the ruins of the zovish family, which are located in pervomaisk, are also preserved. we get acquainted with the original belarusian traditions. and we, again , dokuta carry a bald man. agatha makes the body of a cat. from the dough, the eyes are berries, the ears are fat, and the tail village sausage, most importantly, we experience vivid emotions. very
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interesting events belarus 24 we will conduct excursions at the enterprises of our country every day. we learn something new and many projects for ourselves, of course we love to experiment. we have gathered. here all people are creative, without it it is impossible, we will learn the history of the development of production. we produce according to the recipe of 1970 and always produce it by hand . we should never give up on the results of our work, that is, reach the final
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, that is, get the product that everyone wants with dignity, we must treat the dairy industry with dignity, because, in fact , this is the most difficult production and all food production. this is the most traditional product, which comes from childhood, it is made from the soul. this is a complete recipe. this is full compliance with all stages of production on the channel belarus 24. nadezhda , you know, i was struck by one moment, which i would like to hear from you about this. you sold in my opinion, on march 21, yes, my gold medal of the european championship and the money were transferred to the sports solidarity fund, i will tell you the situation. yes, there was money for solidarity. he just
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led the action. yes, and this money send, uh, to the guys to their colleagues from track and field athletics for training camps. that is, well, the contract ended there and they extended it, i decided to support them, that is, this money went to training in kenya, people together sent it to a genius. ah, that is, me and my post was written that i what this money is for. i want to help colleagues and so on to achieve the same there the results that i achieved, that is, i supported it, it was not so much a politician. how simple. no, this sports solidarity was spinning on the tongue, this question is true, but there were so many of these gatherings. well, funds. yes, in theory, they were supposed to support , it was possible to bring all those who left along the equator like this, so that they ran a marathon with this money, funds, where do they go? i kind of, i just wanted to help specific people, so i helped specific people. you know, it's indicative for me. i'm not an athlete, but
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for me, it was indicative that she was now, when she announced her withdrawal from this fund of sports solidarity yes, because there, according to her , it became obvious corruption and it was not clear where the money had gone and no one could say. why can't you just show it. uh, costs. okay, that's not my area. i'll ask better as a broadcaster. yes, i had questions about the videos that were posted with you by the yes coordinating council. so, when you spoke, as if under this signboard , the coordinating council, here write abbreviate journalists, this is a principle that was specially invented, yes, in order to make speech human and more understandable to the viewer. well, you have there, when you speak, here is a solid periodically expand your horizons yes, worthy people, a prosperous country. now you are talking to me like a normal person. yes, and there you talked like an official, but you are
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not officials. where are these stamps from? that's why i didn't write it. well, of course, i won’t ask who wrote it, i don’t know if it was a prompter. yes, probably most likely each recorded separately. then it was just overdone. i don't remember, really. there was just a montage , there was quite a cut, so, well, yes, there was a cut, well, well. okay, look here. hope you are young. well, let's go back again. you were going to go to law school. then we would have been with you not only fellow countrymen, but also colleagues in education, but in the end we didn’t have time to submit documents, right? and they entered the historical. well, look from the point of view of the law, you admit, yes, that you visited unauthorized public events. well, the authorities repeatedly warned about this, yes , the people who went out. well, look at the legal aspects of doping. i
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remember your words. yes, if a prohibited substance enters the body of athletes, then the athlete is to blame, regardless of the method. that is, you never admitted to using doping knowingly, but you admitted and did not refuse to bear responsibility, as i understand it. just like an athlete. now you can draw these parallels between one external one is really very simple , in fact, and the law is the same rules as in sports, yes . it doesn't matter there. there she helped uh, or there accident yes also, well, how would you be responsible for well for the hit. yes, the law is not needed here, it doesn’t matter either, he succumbed to her emotions. there on someone we influence and so on. i went out, that is , before that i had to turn on my sober smart there, because after all i am breaking the law. so yes, i broke the law. yes i'm here
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i fully recognized admitted my guilt and, as it were, i do not deny anything. and then let's, maybe about historical education. yes , a little since we remembered that's hope really you never flashed a thought. yes, in the twenties, when something is wrong with these rallies that you called carnival, that it doesn’t look like politics at all. this is not carnival, this is not such a bright action. uh, you know, there's a good german expression for depolitics, you'll be honey. yes, politics is a dirty business. and so it remains today and this moment. here you are a historian. you understand perfectly well that this is such a bright picture, and behind this there is something else, when this came, and a little later, of course, at the beginning, well, you understand when everything is new and unusual. it always attracts, that is, the text, for the sake of extra- maybe this has not been seen before. yes, that is, people have become there, well, beautiful people have become in a chain with flowers. yes, of course, it
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swears attention. yes, you think, well , something unusual. yes, but on the other hand, of course. analyze a little and i understand that politics is a more serious matter. and it's not some kind. uh, the carnival parade and other things that are still here , uh, the fate of the state is being decided, there are presidential elections there, therefore, yes, but let me ask you directly . here you, uh, read the training manual, sharpe is not there. no. well, it’s true, in vain there will be an opportunity to read it, please, it was written 50 years ago. yes, and a lot of interesting things for themselves will be gleaned, but in your opinion. so i 'll say, maybe because i'm constantly afraid of this. yes, i often ask this question. you have the right not to know the answers to it. but when i ask people to meet. believe me , the picture is about always the same, which i will say later. yes, what kind of color revolution , in your opinion, became the prototype and complete prototype of what happened in belarus in the twentieth. well, they directly put in such
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that i generally in revolutions associate me with a revolution there as a leninist. well, yes , therefore, yes, i, as it were, it’s really difficult for me to draw some kind of parallels that i didn’t follow there, i don’t know if it was at all revolution. was it a protest? either there were some in this mess, so i really won’t answer this question for you here. i will listen to your responsibility. well , let's do it this way, i won't, probably, completely tell you about it in a lecture. well, really, i really want you to read it and see for yourself. well first, look at which ball you will see your actions. there are still painted, the second. here in the nineteenth year, when there were riots in hong kong, you know, here i am for myself simply, when i would read there and i just had a deja vu feeling that was haunting me at every turn. because the coordination of people's actions through instant messengers. there it was applied to the full extent. yes, that is, people just walked down the street, they were told on the phone, you go right, you go left. here
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is a dead end, here is a state building and it needs to be poured with paint there or there and so on blinding the security forces with pointers. uh, there were a lot of people in white clothes with white flowers. well, it was true in the cube, but there it was everything in the complex, and the doctors are against violence without fail wheelchairs, as participants in a protest of a separate category, university students as a separate target group, which influences and you know, and this is an insult to state symbols without fail and an attempt to storm a state institution, the publication was all there. and so, when you look at it as a whole. you understand perfectly well that they don’t say there in yugoslavia it was the same in georgia yes, there were elements of dressing, but so that like this in a complex exactly a year before our events. please read, of course. it's just, well, i advise a lot of people that then understanding comes. it’s real that they led you by the nose, and even from above they laughed at
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you like that. well, okay, the athlete has hope in the shot put at the olympics. six tries. why, i don’t know how many attempts were made in belarus for the next revolutions. yes, but another attempt to break the core of independent belarus failed. well let's talk straight. and why in your opinion? now you can already look at it soberly, what lacked the explosive power of coordination, maybe what money? i'll probably judge for myself. yes, probably it wasn’t enough, i don’t know anything, i’ll say that it was enough, probably , awareness to people, and who gradually came that well, it’s still some kind of something abnormal that manipulates us, because we have uh, pushing on the security forces. yes, there , like, they create these all these here, but i think that thanks. it is to the prudence of people that people nevertheless understood that this is wrong, that this
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should not be so. yes? that's probably all and choked. as far as i understand, you are not understood it immediately. ah, of course not. there, when at the beginning, no i will say. i will say. i'll tell you when i understand. yes, i'll tell you, it was some kind of another mars. or rather, i even it was, probably, the second march with the athletes. yes, when we are squares and go it is not clear where i am talking, where are you going to social us, right? that is, everyone looked there, they will write somewhere there oil is yes. well, in short, we'll find it with the guys. i say, look, well, damn it, why go there at all? where are we going? yes? as a result, we came, but to mi-rather, they stood there opposite roads are blocked. i say and why would it come? that is, well, in fact, we were mixed after this. yes, i already had an understanding for me, and i already stopped attending all the events there, that, well, it's just useless, well, it just leads you. and then, when other meetings began, these were already in detention. well, because how much you can really endure there, and the non-sanctioning of the event is clear that
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the security forces are doing work to hold back there. well, they showed up there, uh, they immediately grabbed detained there, that is, there, well, that is, it is clear that people have already gone just like that. well , well, you are a girl with a character. well, really, i know it. i saw it. and even when you were involved in these doping scandals. yes well, really your character was visible. well , rather than you, well, some kid begins to lead with such people. well, the truth is, who are known in the world in the world, not only you know, here, probably they always sit there , i want to say that your choice is your decision, but sometimes you see, it happens. for you to get into it. well, then only those reach. well, i’m writing your decision, you know what it’s for, so that you get used to listening to the coaching staff , most likely, after all, the regime, the athletes are colleagues, you know
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there’s not at all, there were more people in this, you know, i just always have there are also, after all, friends and colleagues who have achieved something in life. and yes, i really don't . well, how can a person knock out potassium so much that he listens to these drug addicts. excuse me, but those people who urged you on, where are they now? they all left, in my opinion, all of them everyone left who went with us together. and you communicate with someone now in general, well , until recently you communicated, periodically communicated. well, well, they already parted a little there, that is, people live their lives, and then they communicated quite rarely. look here. i think that only athletes know, yes, some titanic work to be with number one in the world. yes, sobolenko's latest event. this year she won her first grand slam title and the truth is. here is the whole country i myself
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saw. and well, the people were really sick, but she received not only congratulations, but something of her slop from our former white colleagues, yes, yours and ours. that's what. well, that's real, well, how would you congratulate me, so i'm using our opportunity. i want now i directly congratulate. uh, and she deserved to win very well played. and uh, it really is a title. well deservedly and got. but with regard to this, watering is not good. yes, i went through this too and i understand it perfectly. well, as for my colleagues, uh, who do it? yes hmm here already as we above spoke to you before. it already depends on the upbringing of the person. if he is rotten inside, then he will do this about arin. i can only give advice to learn
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to live with it, or use it to translate it into some kind of energy that will help win further. oh well, and then, good luck in the future, something to us as much as possible . the maximum that i could win everything. you understand that really, the hat is the guardian . yes, it's unpleasant. and even more so when you clearly understand that you did not deserve it. here you have this situation, and you went through through it, and why do people who understand? it is they who are so afraid to speak out in defense of those who are. well, even just tell your opinion guys. well, it's wrong, even if you and i are the only supporters, even if we are on the same side do not, because this is not a person, not humanly. i think that if a person has already done this, then you are unlikely to prove something to him, that is, if he has already sunk to such a level, yes, in my opinion, this is what to talk with a wall. well, look, now here's thanks to the males. yes on there is no inscription on the cup belarus is true, this is not
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the worst thing of all, of course, the fact that there were no paralympians at the paralympics was the last one. this is scary, i'll never really understand. what did these people do wrong, it was some kind of thing. not that it's not a sporting act. she told you a human act, some kind of human act, you understand that, of course, then i, in my opinion, did not even hide it. i say, damn it. well, of course, this is how to deal with the disabled, of course, in a bevel is the correct word, honestly i wanted to be that's every athlete who thinks it's so bestial. let him then come to us and say, guys, this is bestial , or at least he posted this on facebook well , then who wins from these sanctions? that's real. well, i'm not even athletic at all. yes, in principle, sanctions, which will spoil, which in the economy is not in principle, are similar, probably, but in everything in their effect. it is no one
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who defeats them, everyone reacts in reality and you know such taxes regarding sanctions. why, but it's on fire, they want to fine the driver. yes well, the driver violated the rules of the road fined the entire bus, which is a passenger. yes, for what, that is, why do we really have to suffer people , no matter how difficult it is for me, in fact, to understand, but as for, let's say about sports and sans spoil it, but as we see, and with the support of the head of state with the support there, all our federations of ministries and so on create the maximum conditions for people. and this, of course, is difficult to compensate for the loss of international competition. yes, it is necessary to at least minimize this loss, as told the province about biathlon. yes, what is clear that the level will drop? yes , it will fall anyway, because there is no e, well, at least for it to be a minimal fall, so that when our guys have the opportunity to go to
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the petals of the game, they adapt as quickly as possible. eh, they gained experience and showed the maximum result, and for this, they are created for various religions. different looking everywhere. how many old partners are possible. well, yes, and at the highest level , all this is supported, led by alexandra grigoryevich. well, look, you want to become. well, in any case, as i understand it, a sports functionary. yes, well, that is, you have this kind of vein, she feels it, do you really talk about it with pleasure, right? well, i understood this right away, as soon as you started talking about sports and about organizations, specifically, but in order for even this to take place. let's talk straight. yes, these competitions should be, yes, and secondly, we should participate in them, because this is the olympic principle. yeah sport outside the police and well let's talk even when, in ancient times, the olympic games began, wars ended. but it
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was right. so. maybe i want a lot from you. well, honestly, your word is something, so in the world community it meant, let's be honest, you have achieved the successes that the majority of the overwhelming. athletes will never be achieved in life, maybe at least just, well, you will be heard. you will be heard that, well, really guys , let's go for politics. do sports politics, we will do sports all together and especially as far as paralympians. for me, this monster is, by the way , bestial. i salute with both hands. because when you are a person getting ready, 4 years old, being already a little bit different, not that it is hurtful, by nature. they are not hurt, that's for sure. well, yes, nature has decreed this in the relations of the paralympic athletes, but they wanted to take part, and i am sure that if you are like you, you will be heard a little too. wasp
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you speak of fort politics. unfortunately, sport has long been part of politics. unfortunately, here is task from 11. here is the policy a little rebuff so that at least the minimum does not climb, but on the superheavy and it is very difficult to do it, we decide. and for this , athletes from all over the world should even support this, and that is, it’s tough to say no. there must be some kind of consolidation with this. uh, because at the state level did not, that is to do hope well, let's speak directly. you have. surely every famous athlete in belarus in russia has yes. in any country there are a lot of the same athletes in other countries with whom they are together competed as friends. let's talk straight drinking. yes, they sat down at the same table, and there they almost slept on neighboring couches. yes, that's ok. this is called communication, human communication, which brings people very close, but these contacts, as
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they say behind the scenes, they have much more meanings and roles than. as you rightly say cabinet decisions. well , let's expressly agree, and they . indeed, it is precisely these contacts that solve the main issues. that is, not these, but public priests there, or there are some forums are not exactly solved. yes, everything is somewhere on the sidelines there at the level of personal acquaintances. only the elderly. yes, for this to happen, but let’s just say you didn’t have this feeling that, well, to put it mildly, your well-known name was used at some point, but it was, of course, let’s say, when let’s say, the foundation makes some statement , yes, and he, on behalf of free athletes, well, to whom i, as it were, are also involved, yes, and i, as it were, to my question, like there
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