tv [untitled] BELARUSTV February 16, 2023 1:05pm-2:06pm MSK
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in ukraine, at the space level, an alarming statement was made at the russian military space academy. according to the information received, the united states is creating combat small space assets that are capable of disabling russian satellites . washington continues to pump weapons to ukraine, the state department. he confirmed that he intends to provide more assistance for almost 10 billion, which will be included in this amount is not specified. however, the head of the pentagon recently said that the main task of providing ukraine with air defense systems refugees from ukraine among poles is rapidly declining, if in october 71% of respondents confidently declared their readiness to help displaced people to rent out housing to them and provide material support
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. the opportunity to stay in poland is also 55% believes that refugees receive more assistance from the state compared to the poles themselves. well, on this i will continue to acquaint you with the news. with lyudmila cossack. new information at 15:00. all the best. socio-political talk show in essence today, almost a year after the landmark referendum, we will talk about a new structure of political power and, above all, political parties and social movements. they will work with you all evening. well, i remind you that you can join our discussion.
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here at the bottom of the screen, drive your smartphone to it and please join our discussion and let's get started. well, in general, i'll probably start with congratulations our big team is essentially exactly two years old. we are on the air and it somehow coincided that exactly 2 years ago, uh, on february 11, 2021, more precisely, when you all went out our first issues in the country , the entire belarusian national assembly was held, as it turned out later, this was the last, if the belarusian people's assembly, in its former status, we adopted a new constitution , an updated constitution, we fixed the constitutional status of the entire belarusian people's assembly. and in general , next time it will be held in a new way in a new format with new powers and a lot of work
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preceded, in principle, to dress the entire belarusian people's assembly in the form in which we will see it and with which every citizen of our country will interact. there were a lot of discussions of us all at the expense of a lot of conspiracy theories of disputes both at the expert level and at the level of armchair experts. well, in general, what we have today, but hmm, it’s clearly already a given grigory alekseevich here you are as a person, who was also in the constitutional commission, who, in principle, is like that with his bright charismatic point of view. what do you think, what we have come to here is how we see the entire belarusian people's assembly. and this is the best of all possible, or still somewhere they didn’t finish it, they didn’t finish it. i am convinced that both the constitutional commission and the citizens who came to the referendum managed to optimize the system of representative power, in fact, thanks to the emergence of the entire belarusian
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people's assembly of precisely constitutional powers. eh, and very powerful powers. eh, we are building this powerful representative. uh, after all, the authorities, yes, the constitution does not specify representatives of the authorities, the legislative executive judicial, but in any case, the entire belarusian people's assembly, along with the parliament, of course. the president is a representative body with local councils. there are about 1,300 local councils of deputies. we are essentially implementing the, e principle, which is enshrined in becoming the third constitution on the supremacy of power of the people and the people illuminate their power directly or through representative bodies. here. uh, just a vivid example of the fact that the people are now , uh, expanded their base of representation expanded the people, and if the parliament has 174 parliamentarians, then now everyone in the belarusian people's assembly is up to 1200, in fact the base of the people's representation. naturally, all belarusian people's assemblies , in the form in which it is now presented
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to the constitution, have been expanded and are strikingly significantly different from the previous ones, all belarusian people's assemblies are now delegates. uh, they also have weight powers. they will work in labor collectives, and while retaining the powers of labor collectives of educational collectives at the place of residence for 5 years, citizens will have even more opportunities to get in touch with them to raise some issues that need to be brought to the attention of constantly acting here on a daily basis, working primarily for executive authorities and to implement, therefore. of course, i positively assess what was proposed for the referendum and one more thing. i understand that colleagues too want to speak still very, very important such a moment, if we compare the former powers of the head of state. i must say that the president introduced this project. uh, he was the author of the amendments to the amendments to the constitution, uh, here are those proposals, he acted with his powers with a number of powerful powers and what was decided before. well, so to speak, you can
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say in the office behind the scenes, maybe they brought the documents there, signed it, appointed it now , this will already be decided publicly , transparency has clearly been expanded. this can be to say, i'll just stop, because my colleagues are sure too, uh, wants to say uh . igor about this. i have a question from a journalist. why i will explain, because you and i , as journalists, can reason and even philosophize somewhere and fly beyond the borders of what sometimes officials cannot say. look, a lot of people say that the entire belarusian national assembly is such a unique thing that is nowhere to be found and they say we belarusians have no right not to adopt the best values, for example anglo-saxon constitutional system or greek democratic system. or something else that we really can’t come up with on our land. we are trying all the time to look for some roots. yes , there are evenings, then a taloka of something else. maybe, yes, everyone closed their eyes to spit and tell him what they are called. it seems to me that we are, uh, looking for answers to such questions simply, because i
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will say everything subjectively. maybe i'm completely wrong, but we still have no idea how it will all work together. accordingly, we we are trying to explain that this is incomprehensible with some understandable definitions of vns - this is what, of course, many people also have this. well, dissonance. we have a figure of a strong leader who, if they say that we are going to the left. we're going to the left. it's not that it's normal and it's wonderful. at the same time, we have a parliament, while we have the belarusian people's assembly in our people. uh, there is no common understanding yet of how the three institutions will work together, just behind my back are the quotes from the head of state. yes, but the point is that the vns is the same, but the body that will balance if something happens, and the conflict situation is either interesting, but i support it here. it's all in theory. everything while a bee is more specific to try to specify in case of a conflict situation. windows, for example, what is this? with the search for an example, it is a little more difficult with such case law. i have e, as if
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once alena alexandrov, in my opinion, was also on that business trip once alexander grigorievich answers the question. what will vns be like? uh, and what will be the political structure in belarus, here once, but he said, so veiled enough, that everything would be more democratic than anywhere else. and whenever, that is, the president absolutely certainly has some kind of clear vision of how this entire system will work, but i repeat myself i have already publicly spoken about this. and how will it work? here is a symbiosis of three institutions. president vns. and parliament. here is the maximum 100%. it's clear. and this these mechanisms will be working, when someone else is in power as president, until alexander grigorievich is the head of state, alexander grigorievich will have power. thank god. but when, sooner or later, it will not be him who will be the president, then this whole mechanism will turn all the gears. and only then it will work. sergei mikhailovich may have your idea, so let's develop it with you. eh,
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igor really. that's right, he says that, uh, when the entire belarusian national assembly gathers next time, for sure, that's in full, well, we won't be able to do it right estimate. it will be such a twist. it seems to me that my personal opinion is that somewhere someone will doubt and i look back at each other at my colleagues. what opinion to take? yes, and most likely such an island of the question, when you have to use your broad powers in the belarusian people's assembly, well, no , no. so it seems that such an opinion of yours from the point of view can be involved in the functionality of the entire russian people's assembly in terms of this stabilizing body, but to preserve the inviolability the constitutional system of civil consent, perhaps, yes, i agree that we will not have to and will not have grounds, just what is called to see it in action. well, alyona, i’m answering your questions, have we screwed everything up, uh, i want to tell you that, well, probably we’ve been spinning it for more than a quarter of a century, starting from the ninety-sixth year, when the first all belarusian people’s assembly took place and when
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this body, just here acted as such a stabilizing body, and which was called upon, in general, to find a national consent yes, and define this high road of our state building. and here we are together with the entire belarusian people's assembly. just lined up all the institutions and authorities of our entire political system and formed it. but then this body was advisory in its status and on a certain evolutionary path of its development, as a state independently sovereign, we nevertheless came to the conclusion that it must be integrated with the political system on an equal basis with other authors by the president of the parliament government, a and b in general, the task was the constitutional constitutional commission. it’s just the most jewelery to do this so that there is no intersection of powers, and i believe that we generally succeeded, and in general, in public discussion. people also generally made a positive assessment of the fact that the entire belarusian people's assembly, as above, but imagine the authorities will be able to focus their attention precisely on the definition. directions for our further development as a sovereign independent states, but at critical moments
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it will activate and use the potential that is associated with ensuring our national interests of national security. well, maybe somewhere even a stupid question, but in terms of how it will work. let's simulate the situation, but here's some kind of critical one. some say we need to go to the right, the second say to the left, and now, well, the society can't figure out what to do, the belarusian people's assembly is being convened, what happens next. i'm sorry again intrude. well, what's going on? then the same people will be from the field. they will also reflect the opinion of citizens. eh, where they work and live, of course, everyone, and in the palace of the republic 1,200 people consolidate this general opinion. you don't mean that it's just some kind of fierce, maybe a fight, but the positions can be heard, and then these 1200 more. maybe a little less. so they, of course, will make a decision, and sergey mikhailovich
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dear said that the country's development strategy is being approved by the navy that's wonderful. not just executive power, but representative power will, uh, work and just uh. so my colleague said that we have not yet seen those problems a little bit all the time nikolaevich, i remembered. yes, i remember very well, ninety-four, ninety-six, even some more years later. what a confrontation, who is older than ours, but still, the confrontation in the nineties ended with the young president who came to power. yes, but conditionally took everything into his own hands and said, so, then, now it will be so the parliaments are dealing with the issue. the cec is dealing with the issue. i’m just in the future, which just doesn’t mind, moreover, i was for this course, so to speak, but uh, it just shows that the conflict between the authorities is bad for the state, for society for the country. this is bad. the consolidation of power is positive. this is good. and when we get carried away, we will form a scientific image, like some
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kind of, so to speak, separation of powers. if we recall this well-known thinker, he wrote about interaction, the second side non-separation, but interaction, and we now see on the example of all the belarusian people of the assembly that the branches of power will interact. yes, parliament has its own powers. yes, the government has its own, by the way, and the court will go around, but this does not mean that it should be said directly. the court will depend on what the executive power or other power decides, but our experience just shows that we were going through these difficult times. who who knows what will happen in a year or two or in simple words explain to our viewers how this decision will be made? well, here i am mechanism is a remarkable norm. she is for me too. here's how for a lawyer. we are such an unusual, atypical 89 article, u with a five u icon in part, uh. the second is said there that the entire belarusian people's assembly is vns. i'm sorry that i'm shortening this, it can
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cancel the decision of any state authority, with the exception of acts of the judiciary, that is, in fact. vns. here are the representatives of the people, this is the representative of the people, we are talking about democracy can cancel e, acts and executive power. and maybe i'm not even afraid of this word parliament. it may even be the law, but these are some minced majeure circumstances, extremely circumstances. i am sure that just what is being built now, these branches of power will work interacting without shaking to some position. this is normal when you are from a position, but this is a constructive position that works for the state, for society, and not for discord. we have one more guest, oleg sergeevich gaidukevich. let's say hello and i just have a question for you. we have already started talking about the party. a, as far as i know, but party building is a question for you, but in fact this question is for everyone who is now heading the society. the connection either represents the parties, look when we talk about the fact that
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the entire belarusian people's assembly appears in our political system. we more or less understand that this is an institution, that there will be a presidium and the number of people we understand. now look, we are now talking about what is going on in our party building. yes, at the moment we have 15 parties, of which three, according to essence. now you can somehow call the current two of them even the logo. no , here we are, but in fact, we have the liberal democratic party and the communist party, right. this is by and large . we also have some third parties that are represented in parliament. but i 'm not even going to talk about it, in fact. we are talking about the fact that we are building a new political system oleg aleksandrovich last week. you announced that you will also have a party. you at least, well, are already holding organizational events, and in this political structure. now three are built in. well, as i see it, i can’t
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promise that the three-system political system is centrists, right and left, conditionally. igor and i talked about this last week, and parties are being built into this whole structure of the parliament, the president, the court of the vns, which, whatever one may say, will have political weight, a political lift and, accordingly. in this story. they, too, must somehow be involved. alexei that it will be we will come to the french american environment. that, most importantly, no systems. we everyone borrowed. so i listened carefully , what you were talking about at the beginning, i completely agree with you on your way, belarusian, we would adopt the constitution for this, for this, the entire russian assembly in the constitution was prescribed now why a political party? why are people asking? well, what are they for? maybe let's do without them, but there is the concept of politics and the struggle for power and there is no need for this word bo and it will never happen in the country that everyone adheres to one point of view there is no such country, and it is not needed. everyone has different
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views, even in this studio we argue e romanov has his own point of view the cumanist has his own i have my own where we should argue on the political field, who has the right to argue those who will be re-registered, who has real power for them so you showed this sign. yes, this is all half more than half of bullshit, they do not exist. now further. what is the installation of the president on the desk. the most important thing is not to create anything artificial. here. now i ’m talking live, no one will help anyone to register, there will be no artificial parties will not be created here is a law that has already been adopted by the house of representatives and approved by the council of the republic , it remains for the president to sign the head of state. after that, the re-registration phase begins. the party has a concept of 3 months. during these 3 months it is necessary to provide the number of 5,000 people, but this is not enough to provide structures. in each area and not
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less than 1/3. in each region, have offices and structure, if this is not the party does not exist, who has passed the re-registration is the real political force to pull artificial no one will be further. why are you asking, the most important question can be dealt with in politics, or you can fight for power on the street. and this is the collapse of the country, or civilized in the elections in the elections. how to fight through the participation of the election, how people have different views, where should they go? someone wants a party, someone no, no one forces you to go at all with the organization. but if you have views, you go to the party and these parties fight among themselves in the elections. this is called civilized politics. and now and the constitution is all in the russian people's assembly, but we have made our system more reliable and stronger over all of us over parties over politicians over people of different views. which was the first to adopt the constitution and the second has the entire belarusian people's assembly, which you know
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for what, here we are playing with the communists with a little bit somewhere. yes, they went to the left in politics, the entire belarusian assembly will very quickly land and put it in its place, but the entire russian assembly is not an abstract concept. this is the will of the people and one more thing. who says parties are not needed. name then an alternative to the parties. i can to say that we say no politics, and all belarusians are 99% and have one point of view. and now one more thing of the runaways and about the fact that the commission is working now, and the return of people, and this is connected, and the fact is that even those 90% people who even came out in the twentieth year have nothing to do with the fugitive leaders, and many of them, who have not committed a crime and are allowed exactly, including on the desk, they are eligible. has a point of view. i say, now it’s not about extremist terrorists, but about some ordinary people. that’s what parties are for
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civilized politics nikolai leontyevich what sociology says, in principle, about how belarusians have changed or not changed their attitude towards the party , trusts or does not trust public associations, as for trust, the data that have been recorded as a result of many studies over the course of, in fact all previous years of sovereignty. they have remained largely unchanged. and what comrade gaidukevich was talking about. he. really. yes, uh degree of popularity popularity degree of credibility in the vast majority political parties. it is below the limits of statistical error, it is minimal. this is objectively natural, but there are still a few plots that i would also like to develop. but first of all , politics can be dealt with in different ways and politics can be dealt with in different forms, publishing your ideas and participating in any. all scientific conferences have scientific forums, open discussions, open communication, speeches
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in front of audiences, so that both the theory of politics and the practice of politics are multidimensional, but together with that and many other questions, the question of the bright leader of this program can be commented on this thing. yes, look at these figures, which i see, in fact, they call me. well, light bran, when 56% and requested. do you know what a public association is, well, everyone knows the white russia of the belarusian republican youth union very well, and when 40% do not know, that's who these people are. i, for example, uh, here is this information and we believe. we will be able to see a number of some more slides inclined to interpret in a positive way, firstly, and when a person is calm does household chores, family and children, education, work, when he is satisfied with the level of payment, when he feels safe, he does not have to pay attention to some ups and downs
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last year we had a program. you were our first guests. you then told me one phrase that i remembered forever that white russia is not socio-political organization, and political public, that is, ambitions, in fact, manifested themselves even then, we don’t ask now. why, because about the fact that when white russia becomes a party, journalists probably asked, well, for 10 years this question, that is, it is clear that they have already come to this conclusion. okay well, here's your opinion. why all of a sudden now there is such a need to transform, after all, we see both in numbers and in sociology, in principle, everyone knows, but white russia seems to be working effectively. except for those who do housework. now said 20 seconds about those who are engaged in household chores. it is not bad public temperament desire to participate in great public affairs.
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not everyone has been like this. it will always be like this and, probably, one should not condemn those who really want to live a private life, as for belarus, my colleagues have already said a lot, they will repeat. i will note another dimension. the need for a political party, but igor said today that in our country, uh, there is such a situation that uh the head of state said go left go left said go right go right. it's not that i don't mind here. i understand that, but the further, the more people think. why should we go to the left? why should we go right? what is it connected with? i mean, uh, civil society is no longer uh, it has never been a mass, but a degree. here are reflections of reflection on what is happening in our country in the world. it is constantly increasing. and this suggests that the so-called activist political culture when people want to participate they don't want to be just observers they want to participate in political life and so the political
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party. this is probably the optimal form, and political activism can be simpler. so the first decision to create a party, belarus is more important than the law on political parties for the political system. pants, if there was no decision on this, 100 laws would have been passed, uh, the political system would not have developed explaining now. why does it mean, uh, we used to avoid politics and got twentieth year. this is one of the reasons, we have always thought, why do we have a really strong state policy? a strong leader; a strong power structure, and when we do not do something, politicians take our place , they began to take our place and now these are mistakes. we won't repeat again. it's like with the youth, when we would not deal with the youth and immediately pick up the western centers. now the answer to the question. when we are in politics. they are behind us somewhere in the west. cause. here we have three or four political parties, we will participate in the elections. we we will fight in each other's elections, but when at least someone
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says a word to our country, we will all stand together. this is called a developed political system. take the state duma in russia alexander, i will immediately take the american one from you. the theme there is elephants and donkeys. look, oleg alexandrovich is now convinced, confirm everything and journalists, first of all, they say that belaya rus is the party of power, the liberal-democratic party from the word liberal. the communists immediately go to the right side - this is left liberalism. not offend. no, we are like people who really look at this story. now it’s like going to the market in an aquarium, because they don’t understand me much. we lay it out like this. yes, igor, we talked like that a week ago. here is the ruling party. the left sleeve is an explanation of no party in power, is not being created. i want to draw attention to this and publicly tell journalists about this, colleagues in the belarusian civil society , a civil society party is being created in our country
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, which is a centrist party, but this does not mean at all that this party is in power. eh, in the center is interested in centrism not only and maybe not so much power. how many people who want? the mobility of confidence to predict one's life ahead in one word , let's put units in, or i just don't know how to shout it loudly, like mr. gaidukevich, so i continue like this. i would like to say that this party is once again why it is not the party of power, but the party of the belarusian society and state. this is the party of our country, which co-ideology will have the unfortunate ideology of liberalism conservatism social democracy, and the ideology of belarusian statehood, with regard to political parties. it seems to me that this is definitely missing in our dialogue. we are traditionally from school career. they have learned that the goal of a political party is the struggle for power. well , look at least at the adopted bill. there are a number of other goals that are currently
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acting on the datists of part of the political parties, so it is only as if it is definitely wrong to reduce it. tell me, i shot the structure, but does it somehow fit in to say the main they understand that if the communists are not given the floor, they will take it anyway. you know no one has. it’s a genius that the adoption of such an important law in modern realities will certainly contribute to building the further political structure and party structure of society and the country as a whole, but i would like our viewers to form an opinion today. and here i also agree with oleg aleksandrovich in the fact that in belarus right now we will be frantically engaged. uh, multi-party construction. here, as if by someone's excuse. and there are two reasons for this, because the first is not everyone will be registered. this is absolutely for you. i think that 15 will definitely not be
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the second reason. let's take a look at a little deeper history. yes, but by the time, well, the modern history of belarus will not go far. here in the period from the ninetieth to the ninety-fourth and by the time when aleksandrovich lukashenko had already headed the country , then there were also 21 political parties in the political arena of the country. existed, but at that moment, did people even know, at least they heard that in the 1990s there was one political party, but then the goal of most of these parties, which had very bright such glossy pro-european covers, in fact, candy wrappers, the goal was one further general privatization. as the people call it, and plundering , in fact, people's property, therefore, on that and so the resident of the country did, the only correct, balanced, wise political decision as the leader of nations, he relied on the institution of civil society on
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labor organization on the youth organization, veterans and so forth and over time it's actually, show us again. wait means the president when he decided this operation on the party. there was another very important reason, and here it is. and here stands the legend of belarusian politics, by and large, he will confirm me in the supreme council, which was the ninety-fifth ninety-sixth year. can you imagine all the parties betrayed the country, even the communists then turned away not these communists who are now, but others whose communists turned me call it, it was nonsense. and one moment. here you have named a number. who does not know about public organizations. you don't have to be afraid of it. in ukraine, everyone is politicized, every second knows all the political parties, and the country is in ruins. the smaller society is already quite strongly politicized. this means that the country is more reliable and calm. well, for us. i know that story, for example, from thirty percent of the creative class. yes, if a little
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more, then the country, in principle, is in a permanent house, which is why i say, well, just understand, i asked a question about something, that our political system is built in three more weighty parties, which in fact can also be called institutions. after all, you understand that the leader of the party and the president of the party and the people representing. party on the ground, if there are ministers and deputies in this party, then, in principle, these people will also have enough weight, what to do with him, this is competition. this is wonderful. can you imagine three parties or four competitors, that it is not embedding in the system of separation of powers, but political parties are specific, but the segment civil society, which is an intermediary between the state and the people, and it performs significant functions of the function of reflecting the national interests or the interests of a large social group, bringing it to power. this can not be taken into account, but for
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public associations have a looser structure for this. but uh, and in addition, it has other functions that are more humanitarian, perhaps public, then, as a political party, it is aimed precisely at the political process and at bringing e interests not just in an abstract form about the form of certain political meanings to power, which should be meaning again, as a journalist i ask, because a journalist write headlines, if suddenly a party. someone will come to power. i'm not talking now about the president. how will it be possible in this situation, when the president, without a party vns, balances the situation to understand which party is in opposition, and which is in power? how do you, how will you consider yourself the opposition will not read? opposite. sorry for the journalists. the question is such a soul, oleg's leading position gaidukevich. well it sounds real. well , they themselves have taught our audience a little
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about the beautiful wording of the pro-government opposition . okay. no questions. well, let's start with the political aspect. yes, there is a political system, the political system is included in the subjects of the political system. this is a classic of political science, which includes the political party, a public association of religious organizations by the state represented by its subjects. and vns. now, as a state body, it is also included in the political system and the political the construction will only be stable when these political authors are consolidated together. to protect the national 23 years, yes, although, but this does not exclude that they cannot be in opposition to each other in terms of their statutory goals, tasks and programs aimed at the evolutionary development of the dynamic development of the state so that it strengthens and develops and this is where they compete with each other. in principle, they solve the same problem, form public opinion, plus generate a plast of politicians, which, having come to the authorities will just carry out the pro state police from the point of view. in fact, sergeevich remember your example.
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i promise to start the second part with him. i want to tell you that this is our national path. yes, and this is the national way. he is an example for many post-soviet countries in the post-soviet space. look at the constitutional and legal reform. e, the people's national kurultai, appears in kazakhstan. this is, in fact, the prototype of our vns. it appears now as in russia the state council of the state council of kyrgyzstan and the nation, and national kurultai, both local and republican kurultai. it's all that it's following us. i have just joined our discussion and are talking about the new realities of the belarusian political system. we are discussing the belarusian people's assembly, we do not fully understand, but our experts are those who really direct questions to whom are extremely direct. we talked about the fact that belarus not so long ago decided to become a political party, but at the same time, the status of a public association
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of belarus will also be retained by aleksey oleg aleksandrovich how will it work? i would like to put the accents very precisely, belarus did not make a decision to become a party. belaya rus initiated the creation of a political party. it is not the same public association. belarus remains in our political social space , works to solve the tasks that are assigned to it, but our activists are our citizens, uh, who are members of the republican public administration. belarus took the initiative to create a political party. she open to all for any citizen title already. we uh assume that the name will really be belaya rus but uh, the actual party, belarus but uh, why not because public associations, belarus , but simply belarus - this is the political brand of our country. this is something that is not just recognizable today. and what is will not get confused. i think we will work. so everything is clear. so the first uh, it’s very good that
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belarus remains a public organization, because i don’t do many things in secret members of my party, i know the communists are members of a public organization , there is nothing bad in this, and the second point. so we talked about being an opposition party, not an opposition one. you know, we have these terms not thanks to us, but thanks to the politics that was radical in belarus and slandered our word, for example, the opposition is associated with something very bad. but yes. you are right, absolutely people, when they hear a position, and many of them listen to some kind of opposition there , they immediately associate with something bad in fact in fact, this is an alternative view. and now i 'll link a simple example. here i am the leader of the party, i am in many matters. our head of state will stand next to him to the end, but some minister i don't like, i will talk about this, that he is not working correctly and will criticize officials. and that i have no right to do so. that's what politics is. and that's what a party is and we 'll argue on these issues. and this is normal, but as they say, if this minister was your fellow party member, you would
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have stood up for changing him, but you can do you change? if, for example, well, it's still not a park, there would be a party decision. if i am for a lot of what lukashenka says. but here is the price increase, there is a moratorium on price increases in a dictatorial way in a good way, this is wrong. not liberal, but as you will, our party simply supports it, which means that it won’t support something. this is fine. this is fine. this is politics. and most importantly, parks allow people to see different points of view. this is democracy. we have always talked about our belarusian democracy. they are not being. organizations participation in elections is still one of the goals, in addition to protecting the constitutional order, we have now written in the law a lot of things that parties should do. this is the unity of people. i will also tell you that the parties will save many people from radicalism, because let's take russia , which has been dealing with this issue for many years. not everything should be taken from them, but they
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have five factions in the state duma, and they argue , many people who went out there with navalny's white ribbons went to normal parks, because they saw what they needed engage in civilized politics, and we must give people an alternative. that's what we said here behind the scenes, but about the fact that, including political parties , public associations will be represented in the all-belarusian people's assembly. here is a translated example. and that one person may be in a political party. maybe a union member is married. this is the largest society of the organization, but at least 2-3, and even four options for how to get into the national assembly, yes. well, let's say this is a person who really wants to decide. uh, destiny countries, but doesn’t it work, so in this way we reduce the chances for other people, it doesn’t work alena and there are like two examples, yes, again, uh, the nineties , almost three dozen parties, and a bright charismatic leader appears who says dear
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a country. let's not go to the party with some program. follow me alexander grigorievich. lukashenka one second third and people follow him, an example is less pleasant, let's say 2020, after all, tikhanovsky did not have parties, baba rick did not have a party for everyone people who have tried. well, one way or another , there was no party to fight for power. we slavs always strive to have some ideas embodied in a particular person. that's who it is am, which makes me skeptical about party building. god forbid that a situation. this is how it has changed in the near future, here our viewers will name three other leaders today. uh, ldpb, except for gaidukevich, it is unlikely that white russia will get three leaders from the communists as a party. let everyone know the leader. well, not well, in belarus there the situation is better. yes, but we all, according to our psychotype, want to see a specific person. who is this anyway?
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well, who are we talking about, this kind of party building can be started by the president so that at this important moment for us the ground is created, so that new leaders are formed by specific people, what if our society is used to the fact that there is one a person, and in principle, there is nothing to change, our society is used to, you understand this is, uh, a mechanism that was once tested in the country of a neighbor when a current leader who trusts the absolute majority, and the country says that dear citizens in the next elections. i recommend that you cast your vote for this man. i told him and i believe that he will lead the country, as i led the right course. vote, please, or else join the party correctly, where this person leads , they are used to , they are used to. state and all belarusian people
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an assembly that speaks has even more powerful powers than the president, no matter how strange it sounds, that is, of course. uh, a new habit, as he said habits will be formed. and this, of course, is also positive, because it probably develops the authorities. here, uh, with respect to white russia, this is not precocious. we have some solution, but white russia e has long heard we know the contribution to stabilization. our society is the consolidation of social development, so what they are striving for is their creation of a political party - this is wonderful, but there is one main feature that distinguishes a public association from a political party. this is really a desire or, uh, such a statutory provision. eh, fight for power in legitimate ways and trouble. those parties were said here, whether we know the leaders or not, which 15 parties were created, maybe now there are fewer ministry of justice , will carry out this registration re-registration. they did not participate in the elections. and in this regard, people did not know, that is, in fact. here. uh, this phenomenon is not involved
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in the election led and their scenery. white russia all the time, so to speak, in plain sight, but the opposition. i think you noticed correctly. and that only representatives of a political party can speak, different opinions. look at the opinion, and the deputies ask for an appeal, submit a proposal, a set of measures that they use to influence the executive branch , the minister, and so on, and what do you breathe , another aspect here we have in the composition of the entire belarusian people's assembly it is supposed to be about e, within 400 representatives of civil society. this is a wonderful third - this is a representative of civil society. it will also be the party's public association of the trade union. by the way , i was surprised that they know about the trade unions, uh, 22 percent or something? it's amazingly fantastic i advocate for jobs inferior most often offer him would like to say the protection of the unions just people are so accustomed to what they are that they help. so to speak, a public association of a trade union. this is
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a trade union, and stay in belarusian, therefore , this moment, but e recalls the nineties years and young people should know those students who study that it is thanks to representatives of civil society. yes. these were veterans. yes, the society with the disabled, others were public associations, by the way, the communist party refused that there was their representation, purely under some party list in the supreme council thanks to these fifty deputies, who were not elected by districts, but they were from public associations . we got free education. yes it is so to say somewhere 50 to 50, but according to the budget , there were radical proposals for everyone to pay for their studies, in universities, and so on. and this is an achievement, so it seems to me that this is what the influence of the party says, but the significance of the party when the parties work for the common interests. er, that's definitely a good thing. and if suddenly the party deviated from the course, not even the head of state, but from the course that the russian people's assembly determined itself, but
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the strategy from the socio-economic program that was approved. then, maybe the party will take a look, right. look what america is there, i just finished the topic. well, good for sure. well, in fact, we are the republican democrats because of the pro-american course. they don't turn away. they can arrange their foreign policy in a slightly different way, arrange social policy. well, in fact, the same salute, a good example, because for 20 years there were parties that opposed the constitution of state symbols, they wanted to completely change the state system, which was in no country in the world, by the way, there is no such thing, nor in one and the that now we have adopted a law - this is to streamline. these are the parties that will remain , they can be whatever opposition, but they do not have the right to act as belarusian, but about belarusian, and one more thing about responsibility. i believe that every political party that will undergo re-registration, in addition to its political activities. here such ordinary disputes should bear specific responsibility, i can say how, uh, maybe we will come to
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the practice when the parties that have entered the parliament will receive specific directions, how in other countries, some ministry, some area of work and people will see whether it copes or not, for example. we have an older story, it's no secret that karpenko , who is related to the communist party, he was in his time. he headed the ministry of education. and this is a good example when the party bore specific responsibility for a specific area of work. to me, we will not have ministers in belarus and they are responsible for justice. well, the communists are ready to bear responsibility and our party is ready to bear responsibility for a specific service to the usa today belarus is actually a true country of opportunities for those people who have their own citizenship, who are politically savvy, who want to participate. including the mechanisms of governance of the country, he is responsible for certain decisions and is ready for this. here there is already
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the right to choose or a public organization. do you have more high-reaching plans and political ambitions. go to partyyukevich sokol doesn't matter, belarus real country of opportunity not sitting on the couch or through the mechanisms of word of mouth says that something is wrong with us. here, i would do it differently. but maybe this is not possible at all. they will always be in them today, there will not be a single argument not to accept this, they voted in a referendum and for an updated constitution. yes, it was about the redistribution of powers. it was about the fact that the belarusian society has matured, that we have seen that the belarusian society is ready to bear the responsibility to make the most important decisions , ready to be active president. yes. e. is it possible to make a decision? can't you just be a little more careful? i probably bring this example from program to program. it is the
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brightest - it's all the same prices. well, why no one, except for the head of state, then raised this issue on prices, decided or not decide, well, raise something, simple prices are rising. this is bad for global things about some super ideas, but about national security, and about protecting the interests of the motherland, this is all fine legal aspect yes, we are still going through it. we haven't finished it yet. completed. yes, and we are doing this systematically. we do not have one, only the law of the vns. like some kind of fragmentary law, yes, which reformats the political system , there are laws on the foundations of civil society , there are a bunch of laws on the foundations of civil society. they are all interconnected. they correlate with each other and systematically reformat our political system, but again legally, but not in fact, it will take a much longer way, because psychologically, we are still living
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under the old authoritarian constitution, as the president of the constitution said, where one person, in fact, forms only state policy, but still they see some. the problems are correct, and including , as it were, probably realizing that they are taking responsibility, firstly, because there is no line of leverage today and no authority. yes, they will appear later. and secondly, the practice has not yet been formed. yes? uh-huh let's say the courage of the grain. not only courage, let's tell one more truth. just after all, after unprecedented sanctions hit our country. i will speak for myself. for example, i avoid the park now and say less now criticize the same should be now the time will come to criticize, when it really will be easier, the situation. now this is also the reason we sometimes see something, but we avoid harsh criticism. we are solving this with parliamentary inquiries. this does not mean that we do not raise the problem, they do not shout, they simply do not
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promote this problem. why because they are beautifully pr. now that the country the actual declared war, by the way, in russia a similar situation. now i often go to the state duma. they used to argue among themselves with a faction, really tough. i have just arrived, all the parties, as one stand and defend russia. i think this is correct. and now, for example, roman and i will argue little, because the country is under pressure. but when we came out then we will probably argue, in my opinion, in general, common challenges. this is understandable. what is called where it all begins, now the question came simply about the economy, but about what, uh, and you criticized capitalism very harshly in your speech somewhere. what's the look. what will be the economic program of the belarus party, the electrician criticized capitalism in his lecture , does this mean that the belarus party will strive to build socialism, in general for me, as if socialism is now such a very blurry story, because sweden is also a socialist. but speaking of
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capitalism, uh, i really believe it's not viable as of today. economic system degree of complexity the economics of the technology industry is such that no invisible fate. the market can't fix it. if we talk about socialism, i see it as a real advantage. eh, and they consist in the fact that socialism is, if we say everything , to truly interpret it, no matter how uh is not coarse. eh, how is it? unfortunately, here are the constipations on the sources for a deep understanding of what socialism is, this is that economic political cultural system , the center of which is a multidimensional person, the development of the individual. now, if society built, so it e has its goal not to maximize profits, not there, growth in consumption , but the quality of a person, the quality of his personality , such a system can truly be called socialist. i think that the future is yours, in fact. you can join the coalition, yes, and you will have a bright position, because
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uh, i agree a lot, white communist , that's all, but this is a good discussion, that is, we should discuss social projects. so i suggested, uh, to get acquainted with some of our data. why so there is a high demand for those projects that our public associations offer, because these are the most socially oriented projects aimed at those tasks that each of us sees as relevant for ourselves for society for the state degree of support degree of participation degree of trust in such public associations. and how belarus as a belarusian republican youth union is determined not only by the social orientation, indeed, of a wide strata of the population and these programs, but also by the position of leaders and popularization of activities, and this is basically in the best sense of the word about state associations, which can serve as a prototype, but the future of party building. and in general they say party building. we must understand that this
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is a very serious challenge from a theoretical point of view, a challenge to all of us and the scientific community and academic researchers and journalists, including those who are faced with the issue. how to answer numerous questions is a challenge to practitioners. see nicholas ivanovich uh. now, when you say that people have a question about some kind of social security, i absolutely agree. but as for the party system , i ask myself, again, from the point of view of a journalist, a person who has to talk about this or that candidate. believe me, almost all candidates tried to party history, except for, well, bright leaders like aleksey sergeevich to hide, because they did not consider party affiliation bonuses in the election campaign. and, because we did not develop here, 21 socio-political i will explain why we should develop this about the presidential election. everyone has already forgotten, and i will remind you, so again. we will be in the twenty
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-fifth year, all the homeless people from the street will run, who wants to then some western agent again will invest millions of dollars and the people will be intoxicated. so, for this , too, political parties must be why presidential elections in all countries of the world is a controlled process. this does not mean that there are no people in power, but democracy, but no one lets a person from the street take part in the elections, with no management experience. nowhere is this. look at america , someone is running for elections, a person who is very important. aspect yes, in the updated constitution , the right of political parties to nominate delegates to representatives of government bodies has appeared, the sixty-ninth article. yes , the political party did not have such a right. and so it was more. well, let indirectly, if not directly, but in general, an argument for me to advertise my political affiliation. now, by and large, a political party. yes, it gets equal with labor collectives citizens have the right to nominate candidates from among their members. here is the government representative. it was very good. and you know what
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a bonus. the law, which here is someone whining on the internet i listen to tightened the law. now there will be no party. you don't understand, i'm the leader of the party, that this law is a gift for the party, you know that who has been re-registered. this is a real political force that both officials and people will be aware of. this is a gift, but someone says it's bad. but, please pay attention to the previous slad if was with regard to the direction of activity, we again often talk about politics, but apart from politics. that's when our respondents answered the question about what areas of activity of the belarusian republican youth union are considered priorities for them. there, in the list of these directions, all those directions were indicated, uh, in relation to which our political parties. eh, and those who go for re-registration can and should realize themselves. this is a social request a request which, in fact, was voiced by our compatriots. this is yet another vast field for all those who want to become an active player in the political struggle, not only in the struggle for power, but in the struggle for realism.
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lization of national interests in our country well, look really. here i am again surprised, after all, so many large people who do not know about the public association at all. here is for me. i understand, of course, that it is possible, this is the politicization of society. it is not so needed, we look at ukraine yes, when the party is created immediately after the series or a person coming to power. in some area. he immediately organizes a party and leads people by subscription. here is the list history. she doesn't threaten us. we are now talking about the fact that we can parties can nominate candidates there to ensure that the representative bodies of power. we are talking about the fact that the parties, uh, win the hearts of the mind and move in some right directions, but the people are again worried because what if we win the party and bring in those people who are completely unprepared for this, it is said . yes they will look at the leader and, in fact, vote for the party. this is the physical system in
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ukraine, for example, zelensky led the business. i am not against show business, but they do not know how to manage. but this can happen here, take the party , bring half the point, maybe we will do the citizens of the country, of course, we must study, and we are responsible for the decision to know that we are responsible for the decision, we must unconditionally understand the programs. it is a certain work in order to cast a vote for someone. it's natural to fight on some stages. eh, mistakes are made, but these mistakes should not be strategic and what is generally built. this is also not bad, in principle, to some extent that i don’t know the party there, in detail. yes, i know the head of state. yes, so to speak, his course. yes, it is also a big one, so to speak, the property of the republic that we are moving in line with the decisions that are made at the level of parliament at the level of the head of state. now this is
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such a soft transformation, but with this arbiter. from the side of the federal tax service, from the side, in fact the safety option is now, in general, taken the course of this from the constitution, it follows from the strengthening of the powers of the government government. now much more will be responsible for the economic situation for the same prices and so on for the republican budget. they will carry, uh, the draft republican budget, essentially on their own. yes, not the president, he wears, and the government now has a very important norm. and this is also here. uh, those are the origins of the conflicts that were when the parliament passed the law without providing financial support. a where the head of state had to go was forced to object to this law. so here is the government. now, e will also play this role of control over e, those projects that contribute if costs are reduced. uh, uh, revenues go down, expenses go up , and so on. that is, in general. this is also
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very important, and socialism is one word. a wonderful norm has appeared, in addition to the fact that the government will also be behind the economy - it's good that the language, and the government will report to the vns for social economic program for the implementation of the program, a number of other leaders will also speak publicly, so to speak, we have a norm. remarkable in the twenty -first, in my opinion, article of the constitution that everyone bears responsibility, social responsibility for the well-being of our society and should make a strong contribution. it's not just that we will sit on the stove and someone will work. also , some piece of our work must also be given to society. this is a potentially strong norm and direction for all use parties including, in my opinion. here she is completing the program, i just wanted to say about responsibility. well, they did a really great job, they took responsibility a year ago, they made a choice and said yes to the updated constitution. and now, in these important, difficult, difficult 2 years.
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you should probably take it. the responsibility is to figure it out, learn and understand what we really want and what country we want to live in, and i, probably, will say a radical thing. look at the last 2 years. we conducted such a revision of the political field party public association deputies. and now we have to conduct another audit of the voters, so those who are abroad will not be able to vote now.
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