tv [untitled] BELARUSTV February 18, 2023 7:00pm-9:01pm MSK
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dasha will become the olympics in sochi a phenomenal success three gold awards such an achievement before domracheva reached no one's first personal race in women at those sprint games. dasha finished ninth with one miss, but in the pursuit of the individual mastarte race she had no equal in the triathlon and three gold medals was phenomenal. a brilliant relay success took place at the next white games , with the direct participation of domracheva, our domracheva quartet took off to the olympic peak with a picture of krivko and a sensation. dinara olimbekova. daria domracheva also took the silver bridge in beijing, there was no further, but those who got in brilliant shape , the leader of the women's team, one solo, edinor, alibekov, were very close to the podium, but biathlon did not pass for us without an olympic award in china anton smolsky again showed class belarus in the individual races, having won the silver today, this is the only birthday this week for anna straw, of course,
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happy birthday to anya. we wish her health to all her loved ones, who, by the way, have more tables that year and very soon anya is waiting for you at see you in the competition. the skin hero of the branches of the project, matt , is an ideological person, how a child can learn to eat with a spoon when no one in front of him will do it in the same way. with happiness, you need to show the child every day. how to live happily when i am at home, i think about what i should do tomorrow, what am i preparing for? what are my studies. what should i do? what tasks to distribute to specialists? very fall
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sincerely and honestly met scheduled press secretary reported to me that we have such a powerful army, especially foreign journalists. i thought that it would probably not be hospitable from the belarusian point of view. if we do not cross paths with you, especially since you are the main office of our country. i
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thought that it would be normal if we met a group of foreign journalists, well, journalists from belarus and russia, of course, after looking at the composition of our meeting today. i see my old friends here, who came to me and we very thoroughly, and some time ago, uh, talked with them in different ways on different topics. i think that in the dynamics to look at those problems, uh, that worried them, and which they are so persistent. uh, tried opinions, some problems and topics to screw the blame. i think this is another such interesting feature of our today's meeting. once again i emphasize the meeting. this is unplanned. not me. you didn’t prepare for it, but maybe it
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would be better to talk about a big question conversation. he's not filming, he's postponing no conspiracy theories. there is no. we literally have. uh, in a few weeks, maybe the main event of the year will take place. this is, uh, the president's message to the people. uh, the fact is that i always put a big conversation on a par with this event, so the two events are one after the other. er, there will be some repetition. because we are preparing an absolutely frank message, there will be a reaction to all questions. well, a little forward. we will try, as i always say, to look within the framework of this message, therefore, it turns out some overlay, and we decided to postpone the big conversation for a while. time goes fast.
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uh, many issues of the topic speak the journalistic language of development in their m-m and we will find time to get together here and have a serious talk as part of a big conversation, i propose to start a conversation with our guests from those who most actively advocated talking to you on this visit. and so you said about a journalist or rosenberg, everyone remembers your conversation with him, but a little over a year ago, please, yes alexander grigoryevich a year ago. and the russian army conferred an invasion of ukraine, including from the territory of belarus. that is, you allowed to use part of your territory as a springboard for the invasion of ukraine . are you ready to do it again if the president of russia asks? listen, do not cut out this phrase just so that you understand our reaction, yes , ready, this is the first, second you say
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intrusion. we have different approaches to these things. i don’t know why you say that, steve, you actually live next to us in our russian federation and why do we have different positions with you? why is ready, i have already brought this point of view to high-ranking officials, m, which is worn on the shoulders of shoulder straps in the western world, i will not conflict. i brought exactly this point of view. i am ready and not just to provide, but ready to come together. to fight with the russians from the territory of belarus, or that only in one case so far, if at least one soldier from there with a gun comes to our territory to kill my people, if from the territory of ukraine this applies not only to ukraine this also applies to our other neighbors, who behave even more inadequately, if they commit aggression against belarus
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, the answer will be the most severe. the most cruel and the war will acquire a completely different character. well, a year ago there was no threat from ukraine, who told you? you didn't listen to me well and you don't know the situation well. the first unit that was hit from the territory of belarus, you know what. you don’t know, sadly, i spoke about this and the west howled after my conversation, where they posted a map and showed where the attack on our territory was being prepared from. this four positions of multiple launch rocket systems , including the point at which practically industrial cities of our country were covered, starting from gomel and ending with the press. come back to it. it was a deliberate action by the ukrainian side, they don’t know why they needed it, but in the first
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minutes of the operation they were attacked in the territory of belarus on the fourth day of that day. right in the morning before the start , he showed moldova was indignant there, what is there, supposedly on the map? how the data against moldova was inflicted. although i don’t see anything like that there i saw, and we do not legally do this, and look, you know, then the sanctions against us in the twentieth year before the start of ours were introduced. who was the first to introduce not the united states of america or the anglo-saxons harmful not western europe but, unfortunately, our native ukraine did not close the provocations, they began to commit and so on and so forth and bandits. fighters and now the process continues. at that time they had already
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begun to prepare against belarus . i’ll say more. in august of the twentieth year , nine or eleven were sent to us through ukraine snipers who are like uh by technique. maidan were supposed to shoot the protesters to blame everything on us, probably bad. follow this one georgian comrade. thanks to him, of course, because of this he was among them, but after that he repented, he gave an extended interview. which ones were trained against us then they had to leave for the donbass and during the attack of ukraine on the territory of donbass from the territory of donbass to russia by the ukrainian armed forces were supposed to act there. today, all this is confirmed , your subjects declare that minsk the agreement that was made right here was such a deception, first of all,
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of russia, and of us, too, who wanted peace. it was simply to prepare the ukrainian army for war. you didn't hear it. we heard about this, said angela merkel, tormented her by alan poroshenko, who was present here, this is a fact. you are talking about intrusion. and i believe that no invasion i 'm sorry i was almost the protagonist in the fourteenth-fifteenth. there, when the clashes between russia and ukraine began , i was absolutely in the subject no one else in this there was no topic, because both the position of putin's russia and the position of ukraine poroshenko e. they were on my table. i saw all this, and i talked many times about how it could all end, what did putin ask me and i brought to poroshenko and what did i answer? poroshenko i brought to putin, i have already said. i tossed between the two to prevent this from
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happening. i always ask myself a rhetorical question when i evaluate a situation. why did the authorities of ukraine start strangling russians and russian-speakers in ukraine and donbas? mm. these events in the donbass did not start with putin or with russia, they began as an internal indignation in ukraine itself and the impetus for this was given by the maidan and the flight , yanukovych's departure at that moment he went to the donbass in order to restore order in ukraine from the donbass from this everything started. and here is putin. and here russia is also such an irrefutable fact, so i'm not saying that you insulted everyone and all of you
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were talking about putin there. well, i just don't know. who could stand it? ukraine did it the authorities of ukraine, you burned people with water, and i can name many such facts. not nationalist-minded people, well, or, as you say now, fascist nationalists. i don't want to use these mm theses and definitions , and i don't want to, but they burned people who had a different point of view in a democratic state under democratic supervision and mostly russian-speaking people. remember in odessa the world is silent, so this is not an invasion. uh, the ukrainian authorities themselves provoked this operation. it was then necessary to reach an agreement with russia that this war should not take place, but
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everything was aimed, including from the minsk agreements, i repeat, that it was aimed at unleashing a war in order to prepare ukraine for this war. this is not to be prepared. they say it wrong, ukraine was only an excuse. to start this war, the united states of america and someone in western europe wanted this for reasons, of course. well, probably, but for great britain, first of all, they pushed ukraine to this war. well, we got this war. and here the invasion is no invasion. i think it wasn't. do you consider it invasion. i think this is the protection of the interests of russia and those people, if we land those people who lived there, russian people, if this is the protection of the rusik people who lived there , yes, please explain one thing. this is the last thing i'll say no. no. well,
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please, please in the twenty-first year. how many people how many civilians died in the so-called dpr lc 1982 seven civilians died one death is a tragedy yes but it would be worth starting like this dear steve you with your arithmetic is not a miracle, if possible, very short for reference from 14 to 2022 according to the osce, and it killed 15,000 people. residents of donbass from the eastern side of what you knife and prepared for war was worth it. i have the same question for you should start a war. or would it be better to give security guarantees to russia that she asked you on paper, i was still talking with putin when you remember on the eve of this operation russia
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demanded a security guarantee from the west of america, the document demanded. i meet him in conversation so in a friendly way i say, keep in mind, they will be deceived. what is this document nothing to you? we are now sure for you for the west for america this is nothing, but then russia and putin demanded of you. give at least a written document, security guarantees that aggression against russia will not be committed with ukraine or europe, but in order to make sure of this, so that russia is convinced. you had to confirm that you would never take away to the territory of ukraine, neither nuclear weapons nor missiles long range unit. the question is why they didn’t give a piece of paper in russia why,
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because he didn’t need this piece of paper, you needed a war. you needed it for aleksandrovich america, they are on the ceiling of russia great britain no, they attacked russia from russia, it was ukraine once again, you think that russia attacked ukraine and i think that russia was forced to take such actions to ensure its security will pass a little more time and i can say ensure your safety and ukraine, i mean, chop off your manners with the hands of the poles western ukraine, but it will already be a fight. e to the fullest, and then you will not ask questions in it. will we advance with the territory of belarus or not? you have already become stupefied, there you have become insolent to such an extent that there is nowhere else you want to dismember ukraine, you
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accuse russia of wanting to tear off a piece of eastern ukraine, nobody can dismember it. and it is you who want to dismember ukraine with the hands of the poles. these will be events. and only then you will have nothing to talk about ; masks will be torn off and it will be seen what you you want in ukraine you want peace in ukraine let's start talking about peace tomorrow and the guns will stop firing. let's start tomorrow. i know what i’m saying, but you don’t want this, but you will jump to the point that the military will come to kiev and turn the politician’s head away , together with zelensky, the ukrainian military will come to kiev and put everyone in their place, because they are meat grinders, and you run in europe and under applause, ask for some kind of fighter weapons and so on. today you are the perpetrators of the escalation, you can blame russia. okay, we will come from yours, but today people are dying from
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whom you said, let's stop it. let's do it all now uh, there's no for that, you don't want that. and i won't even say, you in europe are ready for this. europe wants this. she knows that maybe the americans don't want this and tilted europe, put her in a pose and do whatever they want with her. this is the situation, and you ask some questions there , aggression. will there be aggression from belarus steve but i have already answered this a thousand times. we are peaceful people. we know what is war. we don't want war, and we don't by any means. we are not going to send our troops to the territory of ukraine, unless you do from there, do not commit aggression against belarus, that's all. here is my answer. i adhere to this position, but do not forget
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that russia is our ally. legally , morally and politically, whatever. we are two peoples grown from the same root we have legally military relations. you don't know that there is a treaty connected with russia, we have a joint grouping that must act. and russia will never see me asked us to start a war against ukraine together. russia is fine. you understand that i have a problem in the sea near grodno brest and there are northern ones. and then insight intelligence data. i read them, you want to involve belarus in a war , this is already proposed by the defense ministers. stupid neighboring states to be drawn into the war in belarus. you dream about it, so that
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we cross the border of ukraine, poland, lithuania . why do we have a 1200 km border with ukraine? with poland or yours 1.300 more how much 2.500? if we get pulled into a war front like this in a way increases for belarus and russia by 2.500 km, so we are our russia. the allied group will not be able to fight all this quotes from documents will not be able to fight there from the black sea to the baltic correct military calculation until we can fight. because we are not preparing for war for mobilization. we do not conduct the second third mobilization in belarus and russia did not announce the correct calculation. well, empty stupid, we will not give you this chance. but if you only
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dare to set foot on our earth the answer will be terrible. westerners know how and how the answer will be a terrible weapon. and then you won't argue. and what about the army in belarus of 25-30 thousand, we have an army of 75,000 in peacetime, but if you dare to fight yourself at the first stage, we deploy an army of up to 250,000, although at the first stage at the second third stage half a million. here we are now training, calling. uh, we look for specialists in each military unit to roll out the mobilization component. it 's like it's wartime. therefore, do not mislead people, no one needs war, and so far there is none. this aggression
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expansion of this aggression. let's negotiate peace. the east side is ready for it, if you are ready for it i say if because i know that you are not just not ready. for you it would be a terrible tragedy of a catastrophe if peace negotiations began now, you need a war, there are already people there. uh, teenagers are caught on the streets. you, among other things, reported that the americans catch in ukraine on the street and send them to the front. that is, someone has already escaped there, someone has died, there is no one to fight there, but you don’t stop. you slowly start their military to throw more than 20,000 mercenaries there. they are fighting there, these are people from outside. how many people did lukashenka send there to fight, how much is zero? and you reproach me that i am going to or have started some kind of
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war game there, sending my people there. no, i don't send people there and i'm not going to do it. in which case i will be ready, how to enter in asked me the question to do it? i answered you honestly. your voice has always been very weighty in the point of view for the world and as a person who spoke with zelensky a year ago and, uh, accepted directly part of the organization here he needs to be told about our position, when the operation began, i told him when my youngest son got through to him and says, uh, talk to his father about this topic. he all the time rested against nodding. so i remember this conversation , he didn’t need any peace, but then all of ukraine and in kiev understood that ukraine would not be able to withstand everything. some generals came out to me and asked, i swear with
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the children they asked. how can generals surrender? who acted in kiev talk to putin so that they don’t kill bombed, then there was such a situation and in this situation i was sitting in the basement. zelensky refused to talk about peace. i managed to convince him to send a group of negotiators to gomel. remember, the russians were imprisoned for three days. gryzlov was waiting there and others, they were going to leave, why would we humiliate ourselves? i asked them to stay and only after three days, in my opinion, a group of ukrainians. we arrived through poland, where they twisted and turned the news. don't negotiate. i crawled on my knees with the ukrainian side to continue these negotiations in bialowieza. remember more we met for the second time, and the third time
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we ended up in istanbul, because she showed the ukrainians that she didn’t seem to notice right away, then it seemed that we were the aggressors of belarus’s aggression, we’ll go to istanbul and on my table, why yes? the text of this copy of the agreement lies with me vladimir vladimirovich putin by the way, it was a good agreement, it was possible to agree on peace in istanbul, agreed no, and it fell through. this is all ukrainian side. it's good that you reminded me, and i'll detail how it was. i was involved in it, immersed in such a way that does not want peace, taking into account this situation, and taking into account the external management of the kiev regime in its current configuration, taking into account the laws that they have adopted in a direct ban on negotiations with the russian leadership , do you consider the kiev regime in its current state, in principle, a treaty capable of
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what to talk about and are there any specific actions that could bring uh, someone to the negotiating table and again about the minsk agreements, which you also mentioned, and taking into account everything that we now know that they are from three of the four sides, except for the russians turned out to be a lie. and what guarantees should be and from whom now that in 5-7-10 years it will not happen again, the same war has shown a lot . many people say that we will achieve russia, if it loses the war, it will be defeated. she won't win, you know. as a person immersed in this person, i answer this. it’s just, well, miracles can happen that russia won’t win, but russia will never lose a war, and the americans were the first to say in life there wasn’t and wouldn’t be a nuclear power, moreover, in a nuclear sense
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the strongest in the world lost this war. if you continue to escalate, it will end badly. yes, you know, if my point of view is already absolutely frank , there is always someone to talk about peace with, this dialogue needs to be conducted, i am convinced of this with the military. with the military ukraine, the military ukraine has a somewhat different point of view and position , to put it mildly, unlike the political president zelensky and volodymyr zelensky, this is well known and the future, as many already say , is a reshuffle. uh, the military bloc, they're just talking about it. but you know the most the professional military is most convinced that the war needs to be stopped, the most talented and convinced military in ukraine
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think so, therefore, you will see that we do not care, and the russians, first of all, will have to negotiate with the military of ukraine and no politicians. and you see what politicians from all over the world have gathered there, they say, all the heads, they say everyone can do it. but go there to fight at the front. or at least go there, during the battle, they were not there, well, one uh , somehow, his arrest, they threw this poor fellow out, and there everyone says that the military understands this. military surrounded and so on. soon it will be under artyomovsk bakhmut. people are thrown there like cannon fodder, and millions of ukrainians are ready for him already here. the military - they understand this and the military will be able to agree. i'll tell you, so the military with russia can agree on
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the incredible, steve without even asking. what an incredible thing he is talking about, but you need to take steps in this direction and not set preconditions before you sit down at the negotiating table, because he set, it seems, fairly preconditions, like, leave the territory that you have seized, it seems to be fair , but in this case it means that they do not want to sit down at the negotiating table to navigate, i say for the third time, it is necessary for the military, if the politicians do not understand this, but only how is another force. i believe that the military is all here at the negotiating table. look how the politicians and leadership of ukraine will sing, so now you need to understand that, then, you reminded me of the conversation. re with zelensky i told him the war is on your land in your state. are you the president of this
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states. and the fact that the war is going on with you is that your people are dying over time, you will answer. you are now euphoria other aggressors, it seems fair, there and so on and so forth it is now, but time will pass people. you see, in what situation and not only there in the donbass but in lviv, people will ask him. why do we have to bathe all our lives? why are they killing not only adults, but also the children of grandchildren, and then zelensky has a war to the last ukrainian, and so on, who likes it? did you like it no, therefore, as far-sighted politicians. if you can't look ahead a little bit, he shouldn't run around western europe there and ask for f-16s or some other fighters and long-range missile defense systems, but should think about
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how to stop the war so that they don't die there, uh, 100- 200-300.000 ukrainians. that’s what we’ll be discussing with the ukrainians today, zelensky just needs to understand that he is the president, this is his country, his state, and you need to conduct your own policy, you can’t pursue what he can’t, we see it, then they will do it others, who i have already told you in this situation, perhaps it will change and other people will negotiate. most importantly, listen, any war ends in peace. well, well, well, let's finish it now. this is a more favorable condition now more favorable conditions for ukraine end this war and move on and then
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everyone will support ukraine, and i will be the first. when we sit at the negotiating table, wherever you want in istanbul e anywhere in kiev what i said, you will see it in the near future mr. president the question is such a conflict between moscow and the west today is developing very rapidly dangerous weapons, threats and so on. you , as the first and main ally of russia, come out with a solution in this. if you see, then how , given what you are asserting, moscow claims that today trust has already been lost, i disagree a little. and this is not a conflict. you have reached the global level of our conversation. at this global level, this is not a conflict between moscow and the west. must be considered. and just this global conflict between america and the west.
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on the one hand, and china on the other hand, this is not the main russia, china is the main thing for them, but consider between the west and china and russia the east is here. you can connect iran, and so on. globally, this conflict, and the most acute phase of this conflict. this is a conflict between, as you said, moscow and the west. second. well, there is no need to repeat. trust is lost, but it is necessary to talk to the americans. i tried to reach out to bring the position that they are now at war with the whole world. they are at war not only with china, not only with russia, but also with europe with their allies, they put europe in such a position, that there is nowhere further europe
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is dissatisfied with this situation. you look in the nord stream blew up. why did natural gas go to europe and there should not be any threads that connect russia with europe, and above all these economic ones, if the foundation is strong the economy between europe and russia is strong, then the rest of the political diplomatic uh ethical norms. that's it, it will come later, they blew it up. further, protecting their market, the americans made the most attractive conditions for foreign companies, and european companies smelled better conditions rushed to america. these are friendly steps and many others. another one. to already absolutely convince you, uh, contradictions, uh america and europe do you
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think this is the english desire was this a step towards the destruction of the european union? and a completely humiliating fact for 50 billion, in my opinion , more than uh, france agreed with australia on the construction of submarines for them, in my opinion, the french know how to do it well. they really have a good shipyard, but it is more than 50 billion dollars. who is doing now is this product for australia american? they just called the australians and the french. they said this contract will not be a contract between the us and australia. this is what. this is a humiliation of a nuclear power just in case, france is a nuclear power. here is such a policy in
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the united states of america towards europe look, uh, recent events with ukraine leopard. leopard. 2 europeans, there was nothing to defend themselves, we will not give tanks. what to date a few weeks later, how nice little. dragged these tanks to ukraine and macrons, and scholts and all the rest. well, it’s already completely humiliating. you can name who governs today and the main protagonist in europe .
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there high technologies, and it would be the main pole of the planet americans and chinese, and my friendly attitude towards china would be envied by this alliance and there would be three powerful points on which our planet america was supported china and the european continent , together with russia, consider the eurasian fourth pole perhaps drawn around india and others would join these poles, but it would be worthy for the planet the situation will develop. and they torpedo any normal processes in every possible way, including the attempt at peace, which the europeans want in ukraine. they
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torpedo it all. there are always non-public negotiations, and you already said that there is always someone to talk to, and let's say people are western politicians in this situation. if those who want to talk with belarus with russia personally with you, and about what can be done right now, how we will live after the war in ukraine ends sooner or later. let's agree with you alexander says, help if such visits of the western country are on you. i understand that this is insider information. maybe without naming what they want what they ask. west right now she's the future. you know, first of all, i will not reveal the west here again. everything is there. uh, that's what they're talking about, right? stop the war. why? well, what would never be like them, that putin would never again have the opportunity to attack someone. listen,
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it's complete nonsense. may the lord be with them that ilya putin is eternal. and here putin lukashenko is not on us to focus on the future for the future already without us. well, it's not like that, what's wrong? well, it’s also not me, not putin , we are not eternal and no one clings to this power , there are many nuances in this, so there is no need to focus on us here. well, if someone blames us, wants to hang, we agree with this, if only the war would stop, therefore, in europe they want this and there are many such signals in the near future. i will inform you about this to be afraid of this, that i said to be afraid of a nuclear war, because there will be no winner. and what will be the result. uh, nuclear standoff. we don't know either.
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we understand one thing, that it will be scary. it will be a disaster whose history did not know. well, as a result , some will say that the planet sambit will break and fly away. so there won't be any of us at all. life. maybe there won’t be much uncertainty on this earth anymore, because we didn’t experience anything like that there were two explosions, hiroshima and nagasaki well, this is a hundredth of what can be from one bomb that can be dropped by an airplane, and if the missile is a strategic intercontinental missile. therefore, people are afraid of this and in the west they also understand this, this is the second such horror and the most important fear, but so that this does not happen. i have already said that steps must be taken and preferably in the right direction. i was at the border yesterday you in the bryansk region, on the border with
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ukraine by the press, and by the poles, and on the border with ukraine, and we showed us there, and the fortifications from the ukrainian side. we then talked to the local population with the ukrainians there, we didn’t manage to talk, but hmm among the local population. i got the impression that literally everyone is anxious. and what can you say about your land to these people? ah, who are afraid that their sons will be sent to the territory of ukraine to participate in hostilities. i have just said about it. yes, they are anxious and anxious there, primarily not because their sons will be sent there, this anxiety has especially appeared. after the rocket fell on that
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territory, wherever there were practically not far from this place, even ordinary people. uh, their anxiety increased, but if the rocket came from there. so tomorrow the soldier and the president may come. that is, i constantly say this, if someone comes from there, we will be forced to defend ourselves, and the word of alarm is in this, and not in the fact that i will gather their children from barakhta bay and go to ukraine any belarusian sane understand that i will not do it. therefore, i understand them perfectly and am not going to send my soldiers there, but the main thing is not in this. i told you that there in the west i named people with a fifth see. such a scenario. they want us to go there, and not only there, preferably more of it and to lithuania and the authorities. that would be what they want. well, we'll
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only go one way until i see another. therefore, these people can be calm, but still they will be in anxiety. do you have children. not yet, now, when you have your own children, then you will understand me and those people will understand, no matter how i convince you. in this, if there is even the slightest possibility and danger, he will still be worried. therefore, our people are in this alarm. well, they agree with me , they believe that i will do as i tell you, damn it, my most important task is even more important than going to ukraine, but only the brainless in the west do not understand this. i have to ensure the security of the country, first of all in the west and in the first days of military operations. i said it, you see how behaves more. how lithuania is behaving so far
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from an economic point of view. they constantly provoke transferring the responsibility to belarus onto me. so they closed the checkpoints there with the poles, one, in my opinion, remained for passenger cars and trucks. lithuania closed something there. this is what it is this is an economic provocation. so there is no trade, so there is no economy. and gradually, gradually, they arrange these provocations , they condemned one of the poles there. but you dry all sorts of things like that. you are detaining belarusians condemners are trying to condemn your laws, we are conducting a dialogue on this topic, but we do not shout to the whole world and do not close checkpoints. well, just talking is not the point. they just provoke us. well, axes
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before the time. right now we are thinking about making a decision on how to respond to this gently at first. they will not understand with effort. we also have enough leverage for this, but it's still an escalation. it still leads to bad things. we don't want this. well, we do not initiate, we are forced to respond. while symmetrically adequately answers. if it comes to the point that you have to take asymmetric measures, well, the awards they are on the table, these are the secrets of the big one. no, i don't understand that very well, but we don't want that. we want to live normally , be friends with poles and lithuanians, as it has always been. we even turned a blind eye to the fact that they draw maps at school maps in europe with the border near minsk, that is, all of western europe is their western ukraine, this is their
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dream of their dominance from maybe a husband from the sea to the sea from the baltic to e , black sea, not ukrainians. we are not hungary and others with this we do not agree and will never agree, and russia does not agree with this, so we are together, that is, there are a bunch of problems that need to be solved. well, we will solve them calmly. we will not give them any gift in terms of our aggression. from our territory to the territory of ukraine or later, they do not expect this. but we are getting stronger in this direction. what to do? we remember the lessons of the forty-first year, when your compatriots under the leadership of hitler came here, and we believed that there would be no war and the most powerful country could not answer in a few weeks, they belarusians passed. although if it was for real, and we were prepared for the war
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of this war. in minsk, there would not even be any plywood planes and other helicopters we had there, but they would not have died and were not destroyed at the airfields, but the weapons that we had. and those hundreds of thousands of military personnel who were deployed in the baltic states of belarus and ukraine. they could contain this aggression. the brest fortress would have been completely different - this was confirmed. they were already in smolensk, and the brest fortress fought. and so it would fought the entire front line. well, we were not ready for this, as putin says we were deceived. we don't want to be deceived again. we came to belarus from moscow and we immediately noticed, talking with people in minsk and near minsk, that here, uh, there is no
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such anti-ukrainian mood, as we see almost every day in your reports in russia and and you say what you want to believe you realize and from this that we heard a lot of sympathy in ukraine a. if a you also have this and the second question is here, if i may. they said it is that you are not eternal. it seems to me that many people find it difficult to imagine. mm to belarus without you and questions of the internal situation of the country, and hundreds of people included along the street. uh, recently with her the verdict of uh journalists grunt. and when will it stop? and what why do you want people to be afraid of you and what kind of criticism, perhaps to the authorities about the fact that you do not put down the microphone, people
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were afraid. it's easy for me to answer this. uh, idiot the kind of president who dreams of making his people afraid. especially in our society, well, absolutely. it’s just that you weren’t afraid, so you took it and you came to live in moscow. so you see what a terrible dictator of the president is here. well, nevertheless, you gathered, without any protection, without anything, you arrived. today you are talking with this terrible person, so you are not afraid, sure that others are, or afraid. people who are just on the streets of minsk, we wanted to take comments , people are afraid that they can be imprisoned for any word, you know, but it seems to me that if people, especially in minsk, see a foreign a journalist, especially you and an accent even a little like that. you are by birth in england you
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were born. uh, people feel that this is uh a foreign journalist, and they already have our people m-m. you see, they have one thing in their brains, if this is a foreign journalist from the west, it means that silver will lie all this. it will be a lie. that's in your these questions. well, half - this is a lie, i'll prove it to you now, so people shun. to talk to you, especially if you need another face later. show me your name and name not because they are afraid of me, what to put them in jail? no, but because you, uh, everything, at least give it, as it is necessary there in your life or maybe you. that is, it doesn’t matter that they are afraid of me, they are afraid of your lies. sorry. i mean you. personally, i mean western
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journalists. which can put it mildly, misunderstand, but those who judge. they are not from what western journalists communicate. that is, how can you, these are those who are not afraid to communicate with you? did you mean to say or not? i'm talking about people who are in belarus now in prison. it's nothing to do. there are no people in prison in france or england. i tell you for sure, there are much more than we have people in prison, and you have people in prison. there is a law. a bad law is a harsh law, you understand, it must be observed. if you have broken the law, you will be liable according to the law.
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everything is written there, articles for some articles, including , as they say, key people with different political views, hundreds of thousands of people, they live in our society, and the one who is violated does not matter who he is a politician nobel everything before equal by law. here i got under the article, where you will sit for 5 years, you will sit for 10 years, you will be 10 years 20 20. talk to grigory mazarenko. he is your colleague a journalist, why was he killed? we showed live how it was all this special operation. why did he have to be killed? tell these people, they didn't deserve to sit there, i
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'm telling you this story. grisha will tell you. after that, it’s good in detail that you understand the russian language, he will tell you how it all happened. please tell them to be convinced or your nobel laureate. to be honest, i did not delve into this criminal case, in my opinion, the trial there has already passed. yes, you took money from you for human rights issues, read the destruction of the country human rights taxes had to pay did not pay mansions apartments cars. and i was outraged that the country should pay every tax, but did not pay. he got his. i don’t know how much they cut him up. you thought that nobel
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laureates should be beyond the scope. there is no law, and you made him a nobel laureate disgrace this award. he dishonored me, that's why we don't have any political prisoners, because we don't have such a political article in the criminal code. well, you came up with this for yourself and a taldychitsa in the west, political prisoners, political prisoners , and so on and so forth, any name of a political prisoner. i am ready with you. well , not me. i will instruct you to introduce this person to show what he finds there for anyone there is no politics. it has become fashionable with your presentation. west we have uh, love delinquent until the twentieth year. now this is no longer there. they were screaming. i am in opposition. i am
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a political prisoner, he stole, he robbed the people of the state and shouts, he is a political prisoner, he is an oppositionist, therefore the authorities have claims against him. and lukashenka has nothing of the kind. i myself came to power from the opposition. and i never will. so uh, to break the law. listen, i don’t live in america and i’m not the president of the united states and not even the president of russia to act left and right like this. because people like me are a small average state. the time will come, they will ask, i understand this too, no, fear that they will ask. well, including here they will discuss and so on and so forth, and maybe they will ask , i should be careful. therefore, there are no political prisoners here and cannot be
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innocent. as you say, you will not sit, you will be guilty of sitting another question. many in belarus are also afraid that the situation will be the same as in russia, and some even leave because of this. there were rumors about some kind of military training in belarus. that is, you can roll up exactly that there will be no such mobilization as in russia will be better than in russia we we are not russia, we are a compact country, and we have now mobilized our own, and based on mistakes in russia, we have checked everyone. and eight percent eight percent, only hmm did not refuse mobilization, and did not appear in the military registration and enlistment offices. because e time has passed, we have not checked, this is so mobilization, someone has already gone
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abroad, someone lives in another place. we just didn't find 8% right away. well , then they established where they refused no one. they were afraid that lukashenka was mobilizing together with putin, they would begin to access e-e on berlin and warsaw, and so on, no, people came, we saw them, so we will have more order in this regard due to the compactness of the country and due to the fact that we have taken into account russia's mistakes. therefore, if we need to bring mobilization, and in which case we will carry it out, i told you, precisely that they are not secret in our documents. if we feel a threat, a threat of war, we will mobilize. until such a threat. no, a distant threat. we are preparing with the forces that we have, therefore, do not worry, we will not hold. uh,
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mobilization. tomorrow. i swear tomorrow we will not carry out mobilizations and the day after tomorrow. if it does not happen, the way i spoke forces. well, ask, ask tomorrow, but you prepare something like this, of course, if you want peace, prepare for war, i didn’t say this and your opponent must understand, he is ready. and he can inflict unacceptable damage on you in return. the main concept of our security, we can not cope with nato. we can't. uh, if nato starts to fight against us, we will not be able to defend ourselves, but to convey unacceptable damage. to those who are on us will attack. we can’t say, guess what, gregory will tell about
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the so-called police involved very briefly. you know, today in minsk there is a trial of the most famous so-called police, the key to which in this airports was called in all the media, roman protosevich wrote about this. well, you see, no western journalists came there. for some reason, they are not interested in him at all. uh, write about it. excuse me, please. and protosevish not the one, yes, the one that the plane. well i mean, but no longer the one who not right, he says, not right. why doesn't he fire the prisoner? why didn't you go there? why don't you ask about it? he broke the law, so he sits in the dock. what kind of solution will there be, taking into account. uh, his behavior is repentance and so on, and then
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this is a matter for the court, but you didn’t go there, to put it mildly , double standards shameful. you are just a shame for russia to sit down. no, i don't personally blame you. thank you lord you are too much. they are not even young, but young to be responsible for them. well, they have such a position in front of you. hmm, the life of a journalist. i advise never lie. never, if you want to be a worthy honest journalist and never adjust to politics in certain ones in order to flatter them somewhere, defend your point of view, defend the values that you believe in and defend your state, which you serve, this is always invaluable. do not try to repeat the political prisoners of anyone. here, i tell you to name any political prisoner, we will explain to you and show
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what this political prisoner did why he is imprisoned there, and then you say to water the prisoners i apologize grigory that i interrupted you e you say the finger of the prisoners, uh, there were different people, but you don’t say that we took a step towards, not only our inner ones. well , those who fled, having committed a right violation here. let's turn the page. come let's figure it out. i personally have so many here. belarusian journalists are confident with their point of view. they do not want our compatriots hanging out somewhere with you abroad, either in england or in france, i don’t want this. and even in poland where today there is no one to work in hospitals. but bad belarus our doctors are in great demand there. i don't want, i want them to live here and work here and we are ready to forgive what
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can be forgiven. this is the kind of democratic dictatorship we have, but i wanted to, uh, about the information war against our country. e not only informational we see, now at first this week some kind of bonus at first the french command their retreat. well , run away to their citizens and countries close all these border crossings. this morning lithuanian railway start information questions, so 21 dash 25 will start there counter us here russians will go ukrainians will go. because it will enter, so then the belarusians, there it is not clear that something is there in the union state, some kind of reformatting will take place, and so on and so forth. and of course, they try to strain our people with this. e its anniversary, it will just be that all these questions are coming. what do belarusians need to know at this moment, taking into account, again, the rhetoric of those of our opponents who say they will start. how they bring here almost there did not arise another year, and the bandit will enter belarus well, we know these conversations do not stop. and
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here is the whole tangle. here's what our people need to know, forgive me if you can, grigory for the fifth twenty-fifth time, one and a half, our people should do their own thing and live absolutely calmly. eh, this is their hubbub, this one does not lend itself to any criticism. let's go faster. run away from belarus, leave, and so on, but if the belarusians, together with the russians, begin the aggression of the second stage in ukraine , why run away from belarus? can be with them you can with them you can still run away with belarus. we'll go. they they ukraine will go to us or or or russia will go to us on us no. they have me already on a guard plan , since they are evacuating, count from us their 100 citizens for our nationals. thoughts to create something here in belarus otherwise, how else
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or just to raise some additional wave? what is ridiculously simple and unrealistic is how our servicemen work. as they carried their service, so they carry mobilization. we have not announced any we are going to carry it out and declare it for war, we are preparing in terms of ensuring that aggression is not committed against us. that's all, and belarusians can be calm to see. a week will pass and you will forget it. well, just now there is a fierce struggle and the war is on the field of the media. that wave rolled up tomorrow will roll back, therefore, the belarusians can absolutely be calm in this regard. unless someone sticks it here, but you have no idea what the answer will be. the answer will be
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monstrous for them already beginning to understand, oh what am i talking about that russia never lost the war, but i just arrived from eastern ukraine i was in the donbass i was in bahmud. i've been talking there all day, and i'm a progressor of the russian federation in general, i haven't seen the set played. uh, next to kiev yes progress donbass is not yet, they have a lot of potters, a large number and they kill a lot of civilians in cities in ukraine why does it still support? this is putin's war and ready, really ready to set off your people? in ukraine so that they they also die there from the second question. or under question. this is part of the questions. this is no one you have there in america, part of poland, in lithuania
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there are figures. you ask them why they sent our poor to the belarusians to fight in ukraine, there are several thousand people, so you say, there are 10 20.000. yes, there are our troubles. why were they sent to fight in ukraine , who sent them? this was sent by the belarusian president in your understanding. that belarusian president, as you understand it, is sitting in lithuania , part of these big figures who want to be presidents here and who have already tried it are sitting in poland and they sent belarusians to fight. those who fled to fight in ukraine why didn't you ask them this question, they died there? dozens of belarusians, if not hundreds, now half of the klenovsky heard
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about such a fight, where you were waved. we know personally each of them now 108 people were smelled before the battle. now they are fighting there. i didn't send them to fight. a tikhushki lohushki who sit in lithuania and more ask them a question. why do they do it? why were people sent to die? rhetorical question you know you are confirming putin's war is another rhetorical question. and why are you supporting ukraine with a stuffing of their weapons, and you don’t want to sit down at the negotiating table, as i suggest. you are already discussing the issue of supplying long-range weapons up to 300 km of missiles and
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the most modern f-16 fighter jets there after hundreds of leopard tanks went there. why are you doing it? you understand that this is an escalation. and now, how a fierce battle is now going on under bakhmut, and i say it again, i support russia in the east less, how do you support ukraine? you see, i don’t send my people there as mercenaries and i don’t send tanks; i don't send. but this is our ally, you know, we actually have a single army. what is the grouping of our troops in belarus in belarus russia is a single army? that's why i supported and i will support russia i just said, this is legally justified. you
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knew that there were still dates for the operation, that we have such relations with russia, including in the military plan, listen, if poland or two committed with your help committed aggression against belarus, what would i go to the americans to ask for support? no, i would have gone to the russians and the russians would have fought here for belarus as for their own land. understand, you are finally. if you just want to figure it out, and not give any information that lukashenka supports russia, you support ukraine and i support russia, and what's wrong with that? i hate war. you do not hear me. i hate war and our belarusians hate war, and we don't want war. we want peaceful negotiations, but you hold volodya zelensky by the hands by the legs and do not let him to the negotiating table. this is my conviction. and
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there were many facts that say you want war. well, listen, well, wake up. you , but the united states of america only they need this massacre, only they don’t need europe, because if there is an escalation in europe it will be hot, the europeans, even the british understand this. at the beginning, i tell steve on this question, you killed russian people. you deployed against belarus the company through ukraine closed the sky bandits were preparing economic crimes. at the beginning of the operation. we took a peaceful position. you have seized several hundred of our heavy vehicles and you have killed the drivers of these vehicles. why did you forget that i carried out a special operation to get these drivers out of there, who were sitting in a basement in ukraine, which they instilled in front of you. and what about
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ours? you killed a few people who were carrying cargo in cars, and i had to carry out the rest in order to release them, and i’m right there did on the air. i showed you. why are you against it? they did it to me against my people. i didn't fight against you. why are we older than you in this war? we want peace hear the americans. we want peace. give the command to zelensky and sit down at the negotiating table with putin yourself and i will sit next to you, as the aggressor myself , well, let's stop the war, and then we will blame each other that the war has already been going on for so long, almost the russian army. this is true. weak because they thought that this is the second army in the world and now they will lose against ukrainians. you should see that this is
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the first army in the world that is fighting against you . americans and europeans are actually fighting against nato at the hands of ukrainians, and ukrainians are not fools - they are smart people. they are, uh, more talented than your nato soldiers in your weapons and russia is successfully coping against you, you can’t look like that from this side. and that's how i look. you understand, you are all sitting there, 20,000 mercenaries. what is one mercenary one mercenary, i tell you how a military man is worth hundreds of mobilized people. and you can't do anything. how how can e end the war with peace the whole world ends, only for it to be spoken by the world.
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but only when the question is and how many people will die as a result, that's the question we are peaceful people, we don't want people to die, and i don't want my ukrainians, damn it, you know where my mouth went between chernihiv you see, we have everything everything is connected in russia and belarus. it's so intertwined. well, why did you launch a fight against the russian language? well, what's stopping you from the russian language, but we have the belarusian language, belarus we have russian language, we gave the status of two languages of the state. in the mid-nineties, we also had that in ukraine. well, we calmly got out of this through a referendum, we decided how to live and so on. the americans , including jor soros, came to me and offered me different options here. i said guys, guys, no no. no, it won't work for us. this is war. i got away from it. why did zelensky
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not use this experience to prevent a war. why did poroshenko behave like this in the fourteenth or fifteenth year, when through i personally putin gave a message to poroshenko let's end the world. i'll help restore putin, donbass well, everything, we'll do it so that it's quiet and peaceful there. why didn't they stop then? i brought this message, this message brought poroshenko, he took it with enthusiasm. and a week later he did everything, on the contrary. i suspect someone ordered it. now uh in europe they are wary. ukraine will be finland. what do you want to say that russia is threatened from the territory of finland, finns aggression is not so sick people, well, will they be there and what
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will change? nothing if, uh, there is some kind of threat, which is possible from the territory of finland if they are in nato there will be a nato threat. russia, therefore, there will be two army corps. that's all, armed with the most modern weapons that russia did not use in ukraine, and putin, you listen to what he said. we haven't started yet. you are afraid of nuclear, so russia has enough nuclear weapons. and if there are nuclear weapons, if you continue to escalate, then you will continue to get nuclear weapons, so you have to stop. nobody needs it, and the americans are correct, even the military does not want it. and even i said to be afraid and rightly so. i support you here. here we are on the same side do not need to change to do the aggressor.
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i supported and will continue to support russia, the unleashed war in ukraine is the economic collapse of ukraine, there are hundreds of thousands of dead, and they have already died, which, on the one hand, on the other hand, is an order of magnitude greater than in afghanistan , the ukrainian said that this is for a matchmaker for whose freedom your american freedom ukrainian for zelensky for him, maybe he is already free, he has a billion dollars, he got rich during the war, like the whole elite got rich during the war for their freedom yes, hold on to yours who needs such freedom when you go to bed and don’t know that you wake up tomorrow morning, who needs such freedom. so i sincerely do not understand you in this and i do not think that you are ideologically blinkered by them. it's just someone's thoughts being expressed. let's make a deal. the world is moving towards something that may not matter. will you live in belarus in ukraine in russia
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or in america the world was moving towards this. people freely moved around the world chose their place of residence. and it doesn't matter if there is a border. there is a limit to everything. why do we kill each other. you mentioned that you are planning to meet with your russian colleagues vladimir putin, maybe you will discuss the development of a regional group of troops and in this regard, are you satisfied with its state, maybe there is a need to review its structure, the number of weapons, and so on. we have it all spelled out so that the americans will then they did not reproach him for hiding something. we clearly understand. how many bmp tanks will there be , the public, people, and so on, especially in the fact that i constantly know the americans, i keep a dozen and a half russian people. here i cook them.
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just why, if aggression against belarus is suddenly committed. president putin and i agreed that this division is completely transferred to my disposal and that joint groups are already fighting in belarus, russia , that's what's special, it's not because we are going to fight against ukraine that for further discussion. somewhere in april or may we are preparing a meeting of the supreme state council and will discuss issues of an economic, military and political nature. one of the most important issues that we will discuss. we still want to see how the government of belarus is fulfilling russia, the tasks we set for the government were many , primarily economic tasks in terms of energy resources in the single market for import substitution. how are these programs financed and implemented? it's a whole complex issues and if we come to the issue of our joint grouping in belarus
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of course, we will discuss this as well. we do not hide the fact that today there is a large grouping of the air force and troops against air defense. transferred to belarus, they are at my airfields. this was my requirement. the cruelest, no matter how difficult it is in ukraine, but what is prescribed in a joint grouping should be in belarus at least periodically e in military pilots, if they are based here at airfields, they should train how americans fly along our border in poland, and today we fly along and across our country with the russians. and this a50 aircraft, or how it is reconnaissance. he, too, was transferred here, because you saw the american one flying bewitching. us scouts along our border do not come close, but they are spying. we
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fly in response, we train our group. and god forbid, these armed forces will develop, aircraft, helicopters, tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, and people will. organically woven into the composition of our belarusian army by a joint group of closed so, no, we must now respond to any whiskey and any word, why does poland go ? why did you go to poland, to germany, to great britain, if you have a desire, you tell him there through your channels, we in minsk are ready to accept him and have a serious talk, if he wants peace in ukraine and even putin
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will fly up in minsk we will meet. here, the three of us are two aggressors and a peace-loving president. why not for the sake of ending the war? with poland , i will send a plane here nearby. if anything, the warrior accepted him, but once clinton flew in. and here in your presence, the three of us. i guarantee you that vladimir vladimirovich putin will come here. the three of us will sit down and solve the whole problem, all problems are solved here. no, he won’t go here, but for the sake of stopping the war so that people don’t die, he should stay in poland because poland is the hyena of europe and today it plays the most active role in the escalation of the war in ukraine so i invite you and your president to minsk, we will ensure complete security comfort and, most importantly, he
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will fly away from here satisfied. let's see how he arrives. at one of your last meetings with the president of russia, you said that there is a process of materialization of certain types of aircraft in belarus , this process is completed, the aircraft are ready. e to the movement of special ammunition and units. uh, the pilots are also prepared for the pilot. that's why we made it fast when we matter touched, it turns out that we have soviet times and we have these planes, which were ready to transport this ammunition. and we quickly prepared people. that is, we did not need to prepare the planes. they have already been talking about nuclear weapons or weapons of a strategic nature, which means that weapons are divided into tactical strategic
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weapons, we absolutely do not need strategic weapons. we are not going to kill americans and carry out launches of nuclear strategic missiles from the territory of belarus. as you know, uh, when i became president, the first action, which we carried out, we transferred all strategic nuclear weapons to where the americans wanted. the americans wanted us to transfer to russia the most modern weapons . and europeans and russians that they will never encroach on our sovereignty and independence. they will never impose economic sanctions on us. it's written there , they spit on it, trampled on, apply sanctions against us, strangle us, wherever possible, in violation of that agreement. and if
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if we had these nuclear weapons, they wouldn't talk to us like that. so everyone understands only the power of our strategic nuclear weapons, dear from the greedy. no need, we are not going to strike at america and even at european countries, but tactical nuclear weapons. this is what we are talking about. that these aircraft were prepared, which can carry tactical nuclear weapons, we see how they close themselves from us or not from us and it is not clear from the outside today. here, lithuania e, already before the transition with beny. why are supposedly belarusians representing the interests of belarusians not defending, uh, the interests of those people who are against the regime here, and it seems, as they are, they still had ways of retreat. well, if you don't like it , they want to run away. now this opportunity is being taken away from them by closing the borders. why do you think they are silent? or maybe they are afraid that all the same, those belarusians
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who are now there and who turned out to be deceived will want to return, but it is not profitable for them to return now. well , we are probably talking about these foreign headquarters correctly. you said what it means, here we are suggested, who wants to come back, come back don't want to come back, don't come back. if you want to check what will happen to you in belarus well, contact the commission , we will consider your question and we will give you an answer. and you 'll see if it's worth coming back or not? what is more democratic, maybe, but howled. those who share american money, the americans pay extra along with the germans and the europeans, otherwise what would they live for, because they feed, the americans were promised or what? those thousands are how many 20,000. although we know that there are not two of them not that 4,000, that's 20,100,000, and tomorrow
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there will be 200, they will all go and curtail lukashenka and this regime. and if there are 20 of those who are there, how do they think or convince our two or four thousand to return to belarus, what will they say to the americans? how will they justify these millions of dollars that the americans and other ebertel funds, there and others. they are paid, so they are all soul. nadya stavchuk, in my opinion, i believe her, a strong belarusian girl. i was very disappointed when i found out that she clipped there in the twentieth year, she performed frankly said that there are many like her we were mistaken. we misunderstood this and said honestly and frankly what a team of staffs was, not to look to close, not to set a bad example. therefore, they are afraid
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of these processes, but at the same time, i want to say that we are not playing on this, i and andrei ivanovich , the swede prosecutor general and members of the commission. i always warn them, guys , don’t drag anyone here by the ears, although turn away. let them come back do not want to sit. there, tomorrow they will be offered the option to wave. here he says what's going on, he's right. there is such a mess. now there, on the other side, a sea of people is dying, and ours are there. someone will come back hard to say, so yes today the situation is not in their favor. well, we just live our lives. we talk, we explain , we do something, we hide nothing. we are trying to find options for a better life for our people, finally kamaz and maz understood how to live , they stopped competing, the americans,
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the germans, left. we do for each other. especially we have prayers, uh, we had more autonomy here, the germans did not rule by production, we make all the components for them so that kamaz can move around. they do something for us. here you are, import substitution cooperation, we will move this way in the economy, these are our problems that we can and must solve. i always say to my big brother, listen, what are you going through, why should the russians go through what? well spent well. an example of the germans left mercedes left, but we will train for 5 years on the zhiguli well, we lived above. here we are now producing with arms and legs and doctors are buying. well, on these cars will move. well, let's hold the tractor. we have to attach to a tractor in order to sow grain to grow, we
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have gasoline fuel. that is, we are independent of anyone, which means we will feed people. well, we do not have oil and gas today for eight and a half billion dollars, we only sell agricultural products, and from russia we will feed ourselves and feed half the world, as we once had everything in the summer. nothing is needed there in order to start dressing people, there were some questions about the military operation. eh, for to dress. uh, military personnel and others started there, we met with putin. i tell him. listen, let's analyze what we can do and not, the government began to report to us, they began to sort it out. and we can do everything, we all of us are all the military in the world. we can dress. that's what we were asked yesterday by the government before the meeting. we've done all the ammo. they say the army, not the second, the army is nonsense in the world. the full reason is that there are
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problems in this war, because russia is fighting with conventional weapons so far, but russia is too was diverted from strategic weapons to hypersonic. and that's a lot of money. they swelled there and the mistake of our russians was that we expected. we have precision weapons, nuclear deterrence weapons. and this is the rso game of fools of death and so on, this is already junk. and how in the war it turned out that this is the main thing on earth and without it it is impossible to win , the question arose before us. putin is already revealing to you the secrets of how to quickly restore, in addition, the production of these ammunition installations. we have enough ammo. listen, during years we have solved this problem. we produce ammunition both in russia and in belarus. therefore , here they are. they don't understand the americans and nato.
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what do you read russia, belarus, well, they cannot be defeated. it is impossible just for a sea of people to die for what? impossible no leopards will help. listen, this is not this is not syria in syria , the leopard choked, because he had a turbo jet , this engine, the sand all of it choked. you see, there is no dead end, just an escalation of escalation. this may lead to the fact that russia will be forced to apply hypersonic weapons. and today there is no remedy against him. hypersonic weapons a hypersonic missile cannot be brought down and god forbid yes, a nuclear war. this is where the danger lies, so we must now stop and toil about foolishness and not fight. well, back to
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your question. i advised you not to worry about this at all, because now, if we are talking about them, well, this is just what it sounds like. nobody wants to talk about them anymore and what they offer. this is horror and yes , we see it and i will only say frankly the americans. they no longer trust them, so no need to talk about them, six months a year will pass, but don’t let it. god still peace negotiations will begin. listen to russia and belarus and ukraine , in general, you understand, they will leave, the question and they will leave exactly like volodya zelensky does not understand, he is destroying ukraine, no one will restore ukraine. you see, tomorrow a new acute issue will appear at some point on the planet and everything will be turned there and everyone will be tied up there, they will forget about ukraine and it is
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in a dense state. these people who are left will struggle, there they will restore it ukraine will need it for 100 years in order to restore no one will help. and if someone helps them, america will come there or from europe, they will say, yes, this area is on the map yes, nevsky or the region, this is mine , i am restoring and you will forget to manage there in parts there will be other economic methods, if ukraine needs zelensky and ukrainians. let them fight, but this is definitely not necessary for ukrainian people, ordinary people do not need this, and the military does not need it, because tomorrow they may die. that's why i say it's necessary you have to talk to the military. they have already sniffed it, they are sane. slowly , step by step, we will come to an agreement.
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we will agree on how to be there, but once, we must agree, last year, you were in blagoveshchensk and vladivostok, and we are interested. is it possible that the program could be some kind of preferential for tourists from belarus and the far east between well, your country and our region, in particular in primorye to vladivostok, maybe something is planned? with great pleasure. by the way, we are with oleg kozhemyako discussed this issue and the government instructed them to provide for putin's support. i said maybe i could tell oleg what i discussed with putin. this he says with great pleasure. we are ready, i think the government is carrying or will take, even specific decisions so that, uh, we flew to you, and you flew to us more, and on russian island you said that you were interested not only in trade, for example, with russia from far east, but in general, production , including in the primorsky territory for 9 months.
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eh, something has changed, some results have appeared. well, they say we will already process and sell fish in belarus, and all the other riches that are there in primorye are very interested in our technologies. well, the most important thing for us is that we started working through your ports. uh, the mad men in lithuania and latvia closed their ports to their detriment to odessa, they don’t let us in either. and we are starting to work with eastern ports. uh, we want to build the port of murmansk along the northern sea route. uh, we'll get to you with our goods. these were the plans, they began to realize. but only at the beginning you say that you are like a peaceful person , that you hate war, but every day, as my colleagues have already said, people die in ukraine
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what role are you ready to play in order to stop this war they say in the west, what can be you have? how can you have influence on president putin to convince him to stop the war, you know, on president putin to be known to him. that's how you talk journalists hmm, it's impossible to influence, he's a wise adult strong man. he well, everyone understands justice in their own way, so putin also has the concept of justice. and if he is convinced that he is right and fair, you will not convince him in this regard. what do you think, but i'll tell you this is how they started, that i can convince putin of something, and your baytan.
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we will see in the near future, if he does not come here to minsk , this is in all seriousness, i say so you want war, see? i guarantee you will influence president putin. he will arrive, minsk , so that the three of us will take and think, what to do. or maybe, if biden wants to and zelensky will fly here not through ukraine, not through warsaw, as his people are moving there today, but right across the border, we and the russians will ensure his smooth flight. e to belarus 40 minutes, and he is here from kiev to minsk, that's my influence. here i can influence in this case, so tomorrow the war will stop stop in this my role, but uh, you asked the right question. and i often asked myself this question. how do you say?
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what role can i play to influence the situation in ukraine i can and putin spoke about it. i can only do what putin and zelensky want. but in this case , without america, nowhere. now, if three presidents see me, at least on the horizon , i am ready to make a solution to this problem myself. well, let's see how to find compromises, mr. i just told you, my dear biden here, minsk sat down for 30 minutes, all issues were resolved, of course, it's not a secret that relations between the belarusian west are now. in general bad condition. it's no secret that you yourself ready to do to improve the situation or you don't care what back those thinks it's a dictatorship. you know,
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i'll tell you honestly that you in the west think that there is a dictatorship here. this is a plus for me. soon you yourself will call the dictatorship. well, you only have it unfair twisted. well, he's in the west full of laxity. there is no dictatorship, no democracy, there is nothing there. we in belarus make decisions on certain issues and solve certain tasks. yes, i have to either intervene or accept the majority solutions. if you consider it a dictatorship, but the lord is with you. i believe that this is not a dictatorship, no dictatorship. here. no. we did not plunder the country, we did not plunder it. i have billions in your accounts, but in your bank accounts. no, it's true, you say there is cupid. take away, so i don't care what you say about me. uh, as a person and
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dictators don't care, but i care what you say. i care about my country, and i want us to have normal relations. conditions on my part one thing, well, do not climb, he is in our garden. well, not come on in, we'll figure it out on our own. you help us, then there will be no watering of the prisoners and we will not have other problems, you create them. in 1920 you wanted to turn the country over, but we didn't let you. do not interfere with our lives, and we will be good partners for you. what to do we are ready to do everything. everything that does not contradict our interests and the interests of our allies. if you don't take us deeper from the knee, we will quickly come to an agreement. i spoke to my son and young people, and they are now. many of them
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want to leave the country, and don't bother you. worry, very worried, because i see how many people leave america and many people pass through. the migration of people has reached the limits for a person to choose where to live. we will do everything to ensure that our people work for us, they get a good education. they are smart talented people. these are the people who go there and want to go. they are talented and educated, which means that our system works. we have a good human product that can live in the united states of america and other parts. i'm happy about it, but of course i want them here. worked and lived. we have enough specialists who live and work here, therefore, if someone
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wants to leave, please, but many who have left want to come, that is, he got there, worked and brought the latest technology to belarus, which is bad in this. i understand that, and that's okay. and what do you think, that everything was abandoned here, belarus and the outflow of specialists is a colossal lie, by the way, today we are not very eager to go to the west in your west. e quite recently the price of natural gas reached 2.500-2.600 dollars so. well, in europe it was like that, and we have 120 dollars at that time. not everyone can pay big money for your education, but by our standards it is impossible. we have education. you can get free from you in america and others under the fence can
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die. and no one will look, and we have free healthcare. even the president treats some people. and not some, but many, you know our behavior in a pandemic, when you, well, only the lazy one didn’t throw a stick and a stone at me and now you have gone this way. even china yes, you are rich yes you are dollars, you can lure a person with this green and attract talented people, probably more than me and some people. they give in to this, but they are becoming less and less, because they begin to value their own land. and i understand that where he was born, he came in handy in africa and the polite east, and as reported, he had four-hour negotiations with the president of the explained arab emirates and could
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tell that some important agreements were discussed, and as the second part of the issue, what's in the middle the east thinks about the confrontation between the united states, china , russia, nato, that is, they have such an understanding of the situation. could the middle east possibly be the fourth pole? that's the one i introduced, i can't go into detail about what issues we discussed, uh, with my brother. sheikh mohammed why for certain reasons? you know that sanctions and any of our movements in one direction or another were against us. eh, quickly our fugitives write down and carry it there. uh, the leadership of the countries of europe, therefore, we refrain from unnecessary comment on those or other problems, but i must tell you that we discussed all the problems for 4 hours from the safety of the production of weapons. production hmm equipment to counter
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modern weapons. do you know that belarus is a repo country? we produce the most modern means of electronic warfare, from joint production in microelectronics and so on and ending with trade issues. from dubai to budapest there are many questions in minsk, so we didn’t specify for you, to be honest, why didn’t we specify? as for the middle east and additional points of support, their role is great. now we have already noticed together that i said that today the trend will protect the world, that a new reserve currency will appear, and maybe several. bilateral relations between
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belarus and azerbaijan are now on the rise, thanks to the warm relations of the two presidents, they are practically in the sphere and trade economic sphere of this turnover is growing in education in the defense industry here development in tourism. here are some of these areas , uh, more attention needs to be divided, you know, uh , we have a lot of areas of cooperation with azerbaijan, we are very interested in, uh, in azerbaijan, president ilham aliyev is often told about this restoration. the territories that were returned after the armenian -azerbaijani conflict further a joint venture, some started automobile tractors for joint production there we open and opened to work together. there it is
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for us. interesting. when sanctions against us were carried out by a separate state. we buy a lot of products from you and buy a lot of food products that we do not produce, vegetables, fruits, and so on. we are ready to increase this trade turnover and supply you with our food products from belarus. uh nasleya, dairy you need. that is, it seems that the republics are small, but there is a huge stir between us in terms of trade and economy. well, in this direction we will move. and here american comrades and those present to take others. i would like to draw a parallel, azerbaijan armenia ukraine russia i was involved in this problem here and there. armenians at
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one time m-m captured 6 1/2, in my opinion, the area of azerbaijanis. seven, let's say seven, but then there was no dispute at all in five districts . the armenians recognized that these were not their districts. this is azerbaijani and i remember in yerevan in armenia, uh, at a meeting of the csto, in my opinion , there was a meeting. well you recognize these five regions, which are closer to nagorno-karabakh, they bordered closer to karabakh. give it back to the azerbaijanis, especially since no one lived there anymore. and if these five regions were returned, there would be no war.
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the president of azerbaijan would have no reason to start a war. and so he fought for his territories and people died. in the name of something that the articles in ukraine because of the donbas well , agree, well, sit down, well, go out, that you can agree, you can agree and the offer of the sea was. well, you, together with the west, began to deceive russia by gathering, minsky how do you say and so on. although there was no deception there. it’s just a trend now, talent and merkel want to show that they played an important role in keeping ukraine strong, that they gave ukraine the opportunity to prepare for a war like that in those days, everyone believed that we had to go through the minsk agreements and today alanya merkel is lying and poroshenko also lies. because today it is not fashionable to talk about what was
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not fashionable in minsk. that's the whole problem, if it is possible to return the borders of belarus to the western and our allied state to the western borders. we, like our belarusian colleagues, my namesake, work. there almost every week and many thanks to you and your border agency for maximum openness, never a single refusal and everything has been done to be as transparent as possible. what won't you say? the other side of it was already mentioned today about the closure of poland the checkpoint about the closure of lithuania, hmm moving and they said that the answer would be an asymmetrical soft answer, but they didn’t say what kind of soft answers they would know why soft, because, well, they closed it they are these border crossings to us from this is not hot not cold. they once again lined up in step, well, we are under sanctions. we don't go to europe anyway. and if we forbid, well, for example, the poles to drive across the border
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to us, who earn thousands on this. trucks, uh, they come to us, if we close, you understand what they closed, we announced without a visa. come, please, this is done sincerely without any politics of politics, just to be honest to say a little bit. well, if there is a dictatorship horror stories and stuff, well, let people come and look. and it hit him very hard, especially the lithuanians came back, he says. how so? what kind of dictatorship we can freely buy cheaper to fill a car with fuel and so on and so forth. so they buy us a little more than we do here. and the russians for them the prices are a little higher, and then they are satisfied. this had a bad effect on the situation inside. well, and then people can provide themselves with firewood and start
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transporting fuel briquettes from here to themselves. well , thank god people need to chew it somehow across the throat of this haughty poland or two. so they began to close in order to create a problem, for whom for the belarusians there is no for their people. but if they do it publicly , we are forced to answer. but if the escalation in this direction continues, we will respond harshly. and if it will be possible to expand the question about symmetries. right now, poland , for example, will build an au with the americans , more precisely, the americans will build storks on the territory of poland , e . it would seem to minsk how to respond to the polish npp is now also symmetrically not symmetrically. well, but we don’t have the tune of marovets, but we’re not
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devoid of mind. but although they build a nuclear power plant, no matter how we react, they built it, such lithuanians planned to build a nuclear power plant for themselves, they don’t know why they closed this one, when they have a shortage of electricity, and today they receive electricity from russia through some northern streams . the madmen here are peace and creation, of course, our television and radio companies, but i want to always talk about the world, the topic is important. she sounds like a leitmotif today. this is how you see the world in the near future, given the crazy transformation and economic and political pole shift. or maybe someone you will see as leaders in the world picture in the new world picture. and i also want to ask a very important question. i think this is the main question. will there be peace on belarusian soil? birds of the belarusian land will definitely be in the year of peace and creation - this is, first of all, peace , our inner peace within our country. i am this
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first of all had in mind there were many proposals. i purposefully personally chose this world and in our country the civil world and creation, as for ukraine we, too , all over the world we do not accept war for peace. we do not accept the death of people, for many many positions for many reasons, today we must sit down at the negotiating table. what new niches may be waiting for us there are still those places where we have not yet reached, because we have returned from africa now, i am looking at a new direction and russia is now developing who else we are interested in, you know, i’ll tell you honestly hmm why am i running all over the world anyway, if you want to be independent, and you can't put your eggs in one basket. we need to diversify our exports. we agreed with the government on others. i
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have to break through the window in one direction or another, and then follow. moreover, we will negotiate memorandums and contracts. there we conclude in africa for 200 million dollars we concluded specific ones in only one country in zimbabwe where we will be, i have already talked about this, it’s hard to say, but we need to carefully belarus also what kind of other countries carefully walk this road, the world will be different , it will be redistributed and reformatted. i’m even saying that i don’t know where this europe will be. the european union thinks that europe will still take the brains in hand. negotiate with russia, but how there will be many questions in the end, because , roughly speaking, there are a lot of undercurrents, we don’t know yet where some conflict might break out. who today guarantees that
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such a policy of the united states of america will not lead to the fact that they will collide with china . but this will be a catastrophe. we are our place have chosen. we see him. you know with whom we build our relationships, and we see our place. there, we are needed there, they opened the door for us, well, they closed the door in front of us. i remember meeting, uh, bolton and mike pompeo. we discussed very many very questions. they were very dissatisfied with the fact that we maintain relations. with china, i explained to them in a masculine, human way, i say, you are not agitating me against china, because when you started to choke us, china opened the door for us, what should i do, i must say that mike pompeo in a decent man, and a chatterbox. we understand them, and on this topic was closed. if you find a moment to pass on to them. hello from me. i will be very
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grateful to you guys. thanks a lot. of course, i thought that we would just cross paths, but i'm glad that we met, which i repeat again does not cancel our big conversation on topics, and we will talk more about such conceptual things. i look at my old ones. uh interior, another comrade, somehow he's not always in the mood today. you can do a lot in this regard, work with zelensky, my advice to you is work with him. he does not need a war, for him it will be a disaster. trust my experience. there is no need to push europe away from america, they still supported him, and he is obliged to them, there is no need to push him away, but he needs to turn around a little and take a more independent pragmatic position in the interests of the ukrainian
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people and the future of ukraine, a lot depends today on the ukrainian side, i won’t say, that everything is from volodya zelensky no, he has already lost a lot, but not everything. you know, you saw, uh, when volodya drove along western europe recently visited the states there applauded hurray hurray do you remember mikhail sergeevich gorbachev hump hump. and who yeltsin in america laughed and applauded there, and those leaders who applauded and shouted hooray in the west ended badly, well, you didn’t think that this could happen to the president of ukraine you attacked me, i defended myself. well, what does it look like, thanks. all the best. goodbye.
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