the interest and civilizational and identity of the eastern european is eastern slavic and must be protected, as far as e, parties and public associations are concerned. surely they saw one of the parcels. our country needs uh, instruments of unity and a party. can and should be one of those tools. after all, what is a party a party is a unity built on ideology on a certain program and the division of a certain body of values ​​​​and meaning is a necessary condition for membership in the party after this, the corresponding activity is an activity for strengthening the country politically in an ideological such a public worldview, or something, and such a task, the party can solve, it is very important to choose the right spiritual worldview foundations. they become that system of meanings, which even today we can call it the ideology of the belarusian statehood, which is largely reflected. and in

the constitution, in the messages that we introduced into the updated constitution at last year's referendum. we don't have much time left, but uh, here, trying to collect the main let's just say the thoughts that were voiced today during this conversation, and we understand perfectly well that now, apart from direct military confrontation. there are much more serious, someone calls a hybrid someone is called a proxy. but there is really a struggle of ideas, a struggle for brains. that's quite recently. and the thought factory in the united states of america in england works like clockwork uh, think tanks are known the atlantic council, uh, published an article in which well, i won’t name them to our viewers, it’s not enough that if people say, well, for specialists. these people are famous. so you know how they connect. what things they write is extremely important for ukraine's friends and allies in the west to punish lukashenka's regimes. we fix the first. and then it will help the belarusian,

sort of democratic movement in the battle for the hearts and minds of the belarusian people, by exposing that lukashenka's support for the war is a direct cause of the growing instability of economic difficulties. that is, they are correcting the training manual now, it starts what you see here now, here is the war at hand belarusians. this is where they participate. they say to participate, which means all our economic difficulties. e about this, that is, they forgot that the sanctions were long before the piles and stuff. and here i want. here you are first to suggest before your answers the president's words that were spoken last week. it seemed to be about prices. in fact, there is not a single meeting now that goes narrowly. only for some one igor. here you are, like stripes of a journalist. don't let me lie. that is, it is always considered in the complex. let's let's hear the president today the question is more than a goal. inside from the kaimir in our country , pricing is the basis of a just

world in belarus, this is the main article of the agreement between the authorities and the people, so we must endure, we must put up, everyone must strive to save our country. i categorically declare that we have everything for this. we can't just keep it. and when this cart of the planet ends, we will be an order of magnitude higher than all the facts. today i can't do that. i never cheated. all my predictions have always been in tosh. an important question, look, petrovich is a global business, we hear the president saying that we have everything not just to survive in these circumstances, but also to come out with a plus, which the situation requires of us. well, first of all, i would like to say here that really hmm because. we can say that the west is trying in every possible way to turn away from us. well, let's call it that, then definitely. we are already choosing completely the vector

is really eastern, this is already evident. well, it's getting stronger in all directions. well interaction with the russian federation is, as they say. a priori, this is how a constant should be very globally interactable today. today, within the framework of the csto. first of all, as a military organization of the state. we form not only actions there or conduct exercises there with collective forces and interactions within the framework of this organization, but we are also developing very widely in the educational military sphere. these tendencies have been outlined very widely and we are working on a lot in the scientific field. uh, we support very serious serious interaction with the people 's republic of china, primarily with the people's liberation army of china. so i want to say that here is the eastern vector that was chosen. i think for us, uh, first of all, it is promising for the coming years, maybe even for the coming decades . it can be said that, as far as we are concerned, we must definitely go into the pluses today, even if we look to the west. you

look at all the globalist ideas have faded into the background, everyone has completely begun to engage in the restoration of the military-industrial complex. what is the military industrial complex military-industrial complex in any case, it is an impetus to any economy, that is, in any case, the military component is an impetus for the development of the state in general. as such, in the economic political, it shows how strong this state is, if it has strong power, then, accordingly, it is strong power. it can manifest itself only in these difficult conditions of the situation and it is really necessary to make strong-willed decisions and these strong-willed to bring decisions to the end, uh, our conclusions , what kind of what we should be in order to go through this track, you know, here's the president. he speaks clearly, he speaks the idea of ​​justice. yes , and uh, according to the lassoal propaganda of the first world war. it clearly says what war is. this is a war of ideas against ideas, that is, our idea, it is the strongest. because it is very difficult to break it. and that's why

the president is not pushing the ideas of some kind of free market. let's develop corporations, let's develop private traders. he says, no, we need to develop in such a way that everyone coming to the store felt this justice. they are so that coming to the store and could not buy it. here we express general justice there will be no justice , internal conflicts will always begin. this one earns more, this one earns less, this one earns more. can afford. this should not be, and uh, it should be noted that the president did not only talk about prices and about uneven. front income, this is also injustice and our task now is to make sure that our opponents are ours. well let's just call it directly the enemies did not use any technology, ideological in order to rock our society. uh, showing that you see that one there, and a better car than you have going there to accomplish yes, it's unfair that this is actually, we are at all levels. why? here the president says everyone should

protect e our country, because at all levels in all regions of distant points. ah, those in charge of outreach should go and speak to the public. thank you igor your choice. and often the simplest the most difficult at the same time. yes, everyone should , uh, do their own thing well, uh, at each specific workplace, and solve those problems that we have in our country, as in any country in the world. they have some problems , pain points, just such a collective west is trying to us. and he is trying to undermine us from the inside, relying on some of our internal problems. and it would be extremely stupid in this situation to turn a blind eye to some problems, and closing your eyes will not solve the problem for sure, therefore, if suddenly we have some points of tension in society. and it could be prices. it could be an uneven distribution of income. it might be a question. uh, do not know what to do with the fugitive return do not return.

and these problems need to be quickly resolved, not giving the opportunity to these sometimes strictly financial , strictly economic, strictly social petty problems, starting with a hole in the road, but so that they do not develop into political problems when, due to a hole in the road in some city will try to bring people in this city like against the authorities, although problem. it's easy in the pit, but there was no timely solution, so the first to see the problem. now it is extremely important to honestly see them , recognize them and decide. uh, if we do this quickly and clearly, then, in general, these are western attempts to influence us. we will not be afraid. thank you alexander. i think in order for us to reach a higher level and become stronger, here is the post, uh, of the war era, among the uh, leaders. eh, world, we still need to solve and this is the problem of parting with illusions and myths, which are full of modern public consciousness. after all , many people sincerely believe that, well, everything is in order in the world. in general, people there in the west,

generally everywhere, they are good, they want to be friends, trade there, get married. and here we are talking about some kind of wars about the fact that we need to have a strong army, and consider such a formulation of the question as inadequacy, rather, on the contrary, the inadequacy of living, this is the illusion of such a benevolent and kind world in which we must enter. well, in addition, a lot of other myths and historical myths, and in this sense the work that is being done in our country , these dialogue platforms that have become a political brand. or a brand of political e, the culture of our society, they must continue. and in general, this work with consciousness, which, including our association, is leading many others. e subjects of this process, there is social science. well, for many, it must continue and become even more active and truly effective. to be honest, there is an unplowed field in this e in this plane to work. e need. well thank you thank you very much for participating in our

program. but we continue the program in a couple of minutes, the well-known russian political scientist and public figure sergey kruginyan is in touch. so stay with us. we continue, the ongoing events require not only careful recording, but first of all it is important to see the deep meanings. cause causation. and for this, you must agree , we need not just experts, real thinkers, and we are glad that we have the opportunity to talk with one of them today. connected sergey kurginyan sergey ivanovich hello , thank you for finding time for us. thank you for inviting me, but at the suggestion of individual representatives of the ukrainian country , the topic of the korean scenario for ukraine appeared, so how do you feel about such a possibility, it’s wonderful, they will never agree to this. let's divide under the dnieper that is, this will be the thirty- eighth parallel ukraine let's share. what is korea, this is a divided korea

, a divided ukraine yes, for god's sake yes take this lvov and everything else for yourself and uh exercise there as you like, at least some poles yes, for god's sake what's the problem? the only problem is that this will never be understood? why is it never out of the question? if you say yeltsin please forgive me, uh, he was sometimes very bright happy. yes, such people once asked him provocatively so. and tell me, please, is it possible that a jew becomes the head of the russian state ? what division of the territory will not be said. because politics will not accept this, he

will build, yes, internal ukrainian politics. we will not accept this once and the second will not accept it. the west does not need it. nobody needs it, eternal war. well, the problem lies in this once who gorbachev told me already somewhere in his fund that while you were still some trifle research fellow. i went there to meet with twenty-two very influential people, in my opinion, he said to paris, i did not say mikhail sergeevich europe is dead and will be dead until the russian cauldron boils. here the russian cauldron boiled, who needs to stop it, the macbeth witches are sitting talking, and i will blow. into the sieve. thank you for that, the cauldron is boiling. yes, and they only accurately verify the temperature. they need boiled, which is cooked on a slow fire. don't need it like that. once and for all, what is the way out for us, but with such a simple yes, we are here

in conditions, when we will not do anything unilaterally, they will impose a war, it must be won. they are talking russian cauldron in order to achieve a result. and we must achieve the result b from this warm-up. just don't talk like that all the time. it is not known that at first it is satanism, and then that together with the americans we won the cold war. well, don't do this, i beg you. well, you can't look at yours. you guys in official positions are looking at you and smiling predatoryly. hmm my all sympathies, not on the side of those under smile. why do you give such a reason so impossible. i say this, not to you, of course, but to those who bends it all. yes, the names there are so familiar, something from the soviet era. yes, that 's the point here. lies in what we can do, only one thing we can create and

use the potential and new life from the energy of the russian boiler, which no one will stop. slowly, calmly, not without some kind of dramatization, you need to extract this energy of new life. we need to prepare for even much more trouble, we need to do everything possible, and thank god that this is so that this will not be discharged by any nuclear war. nobody needs her. this means that the temperature in the boiler jumped sharply, yes, right away, but you need to change your life. this is the worst thing they are afraid of, they need to seriously calmly change their lives, leaving all the best that they managed to turn out. well, you managed to do something, damn it, and this is the best to connect not directly with some kind of restoration structures, but with

rethought modules of the past , the rethought nobility will be crushed so you will put yourself in. then they will start negotiations. well i don't know how the cold war model or something else. uh, the general on general issues will always hate, plot intrigues all the time , set fire to something somewhere along the borders, but right now they will not go over to a nuclear war if they go over to any. they have nothing to do magically, or a cosmic replacement. there are nuclear, so to speak, devices with some kind of rods from outer space. yes , so that the effect was just as destructive, but without infection. so it seems to me that there are madmen who want a nuclear war, but there are not many of them. so we need to move there. we this we will not change the constant and do not listen to what someone in ukraine is talking about, no one

will share anything. nobody will share anything. it will be completely different to deliver more, as it were , tangible blows using more separate, sick weapons and attempts to create. revenge. here are the new details around. uh, northern streams, an investigation by an american family journalist. hersh , convincingly proves that the americans staged a terrorist attack, the norwegians helped, but can this information affect anything at all, given that, for example, the western press, it defiantly ignores this sensational material or even tries to turn hershe into a traitor, or even a madman. oh, can i say, there is one thing, a really very talented journalist. i know an investigative journalist. yes, he stands there 10 well -trained spies. yes, he is a nimble guy and can sniff out everything, but in one percent

of 100 cases. this is such a talent. yes, the eccentric is always such a slightly kooked such a sniffer. yes, this is a very important figure. on hersh - it's not quite it, but in all other cases. i want plums to remember this. these plums are journalists with experience, authority and a corresponding reputation, which give information, and they draw up, and this has always been the twentieth century. and not only that, so the question is who leaked all this to hersh. who leaked it to him, but who leaked it, he wants something, yes, but what he wants is what he eats. the most important intrigue in this field, so the question here is that of course everyone will be hushed up and everyone will be

indignant, but this hersh, this is not an osanzh. he he is not a suicide, he is from the elite, he is a respectable person. if he realized that it would be a strong b-bom for him , he wouldn’t do it, you know, in some way. uh , so it’s like one of the leaders of the pravda newspaper in the soviet era says to me, we are not a rural life magazine. we don't have directives. we have pnd management, we have to guess what to print? and that there is no pnd board , so hersh is controlled by the trend. he understands where it is possible, where it is impossible. he ingeniously senses where this is a justified risk. for which there will be e gingerbread and there won't be much much more- and where is this madness, and he won’t go crazy, i repeat, this is not osanj, and it’s not easier, which means that he coldly calculated everything he talked over with modest, and

people with grayish faces. yes. uh, well, i guess, not only from the cia. well, somewhere cooler. there is a department more abruptly. so i realized that you can. yes, i received the material, checked it and confirmed it. having issued it literary for this they give pultzer prizes, but you understand for nothing else, and for another bullet the vlog is not stale. even when the president, because when a journalist, even more so. and here an important point, because there is still one operation under the direct supervision of biden's national security adviser sullivan, which was conceived and developed even before the start of the special operation in ukraine, and russia's indignation is understandable, but will the germans calmly swallow the fact that, in general, the main goal of undermining is to deprive europe of cheap gas to bring down the industrial power, above all germany germany is absolutely not sovereign. absolutely well

, i didn’t say something all the time, there, that i talked when the soviet period, when i was in charge of the center for strategic research representative of the ministers of the ussr yes, it was he who talked with such john rose, he said that if germany starts to unite with russia on the wreckage of the soviet union, yes, then it will be a nuclear war in europe, yes, but i can say much more the head of one of the major such well, such an orientation is more understandable to us, sympathetic to the german parties , and spoke to me right in the building of the first parliament. so what about german. so what, in 2 weeks i can build socialism in germany in 2 weeks i'll take a few steps, and there will be socialism and then what then what are you? you understand that then it’s just military repressions, that’s where it all ends, so he says.