talented unprincipled sluts, this came to light as a self-witted from the minsk campaigns. saying not only about ukraine since 2001. the us has unleashed many warriors. they threw 900,000 people, 38 million. tired of refugees. everyone. this is a trade to be with a call on the weather. warsaw amazes with salk to close the border of our ukraine with kalitachosis, the patrol boat yak declared the situation with pitch with such a poperydzhenie was made by the viceroy of the minister of foreign countries. poland earlier, under their own motives, closed the transition to a demarche. belarus refused to provide land surveying for polish world carriers today. poland closing its borders for belarusian trucks. in taxes, the police call this kind of blackmail and providing not supposedly doshine. they barged in the patemadrose, immersed them with a whisper for improvement, the planners

bargained to tell where her brother was, the raiders, who had not achieved their goal, called the vertebrae, they managed to wear out the so-called sportsmen with them. they protsevali me one mark of the market and came to deal with the courier temples. a 26-year-old resident of breschan, who worked as a wholesale courier for 2.8 kg of a particularly dangerous psychotropic substance alpha-pvp was found in a drug market at his place of residence, which was planned to be sold through caches in the territory of the brest region . the young generation perspectives for the development of youth initiatives from and measurement of kovali at the minsk event were measured, the vorynya of the primary organization of the belarusian republican youth union of operational activities , interaction with the procedural youth is the key, and you

aspect of the uno-pramku of the development of the organization there are a lot of young employees who have closed the topic of legalization, they are all not energetic, they are all responsible for their work and it is clear that m-m it would be logical to unite the efforts that are being made by our employees in this way. they will be united, they will be unloaded, and we will act in a single channel only in the capital of 75 primary organizations. more information with my colleagues, this is the fifteenth, and i am developing on this for you. hello,

i would like to wish our viewers make yourself comfortable with the excellent line-up of experts in this edition. i welcome our guests. thank you for taking the time, and in the second part of the program, the russian public figure is known to be in touch. sergey kurgin, so what awaits you and me, a meaningful conversation, today security is the number one issue with this. and let's start on monday, alexander lukashenko led a meeting with the new general decimal committee. let me remind you that belarus is chairing the organization this year, but i would like to start with this fragment. see if anyone he thinks that the conflict between ukraine and russia is not our conflict, that we will sit quietly somewhere, nothing like this will happen. the time will come, it is literally not far away. here it is

tomorrow, when this time will require to be determined to take a certain position. i am not saying that it is to the detriment of national interests and so on, but with all our allied shortcomings. we will have to clearly define our policy and our line in order to act i suggest i guess, and your experience in this was pushed together together is always easier what do you think, everyone heard some frank and honest message to our partners in the accident. well, let's stop, first i'll tell you about what, from my point of view, the head of our state went when he sent this message. i think that it came not so much from an appeal to solidarity to some moral feelings. how much he uttered the simple truth that

it is impossible to ensure security alone in the modern world, if we draw a historical analogy, then the thirties of the 20th century, uh, somewhat resembled the current situation, while the ussr urged by all means to create a unified security system in europe, if it had been created, then the wehrmacht general staff would hardly have decided on such an adventure, because he understood that the united forces of europe of the soviet union were much larger, but preferred to sit out in their national apartments. somewhere they played their games, they got what they got, and today we have a situation similar to the need to unite in order to meet those challenges, and challenges. numerically close to the third world war to the beginning of the third world war for in order to find challenges to give an adequate response, what else do i want to say about this, our partners in the csd need to understand, uh, a simple thing, that the goals of the collective west are not small countries in

the post-soviet space, their real goals are russia and china as major geopolitical competitors and they hit these targets using such a favorite method of anglo-saxon geopolitics, creating an anaconda loop, that is, along the perimeter, creating a hostile environment and suffocating in this hostile environment, unleashing conflicts on borders. uh, they set up military bases there, provoking chaos, which will inevitably spill over into, uh, the territory of russia, and there will be chaos, including among the partners in the csd, who border on russia in this sense , i want to emphasize my point again, and security. not for someone not for someone else's uncle. this is for yourself, for your people, and only together. we'll be able to provide it. alexei well, it's really involved. now we will see that last year was such a test of independence , first in kazakhstan, then we saw armenians azerbaijani conflict, where it is very difficult, of course, for us, the situation is on the one hand.

armenia is a member of the dcb on the other hand, azerbaijan is such a traditional one, a big partner. here it was very important not to aggravate the presence of dkb. that is understandable, do not resolve the situation. there the task is different, but from the point of view of hearing this message that was voiced in minsk on monday. as you see it, you know, we still have to understand that in reality the tkb is a union of sovereign states. and those who fight against us large corporations, industrial banking corporations and they have an a plan for the next 15 years. this is the destruction of sovereign states. uh immerse them, and in a state of chaos. e. the complete destruction of any constitutional system of any government agencies of law enforcement agencies, uh, and. e. hmm, the immersion of the population is just such a very, er, severe socio-economic crisis. and when the president says that, uh, tomorrow this challenge will come, the challenge is just related to

the confrontation of sovereign states with their those corporations, if we do not resist, and we are in alone, we will definitely not be able to resist their huge, and their asset e money supply, but together we can resist and save our world, and most importantly, keep the world in order. eh, completely different. not the one that a large corporation is trying to impose now, i will suggest to the national elites of these countries those who own large capitals, because the russian ones, for example, showed that these young capitals, no matter how big they were, they were the same. players in the big arena them quickly at each their place, save accordingly your capital when you go beyond your national jurisdiction, if you are not a sovereign, it is extremely difficult, perhaps this is also a call to the fact that times have really changed now igor what do you think, but let's do it with our opponents and even i would

name enemies. here is. in general, what our country has a little less hmm is unity. despite the fact that, of course, there in the west they also swear about how many weapons to supply e to ukraine e, how anyone sees the fighting in from the point of view of national interests, but there is no single thing there, if such unity is on our part, even if we consider the csto. well, let's just say that there are certain questions about this unity, and this is not the first time we have. uh, hmm, not the first time. the president says that we must all be united in the csto, and this is not the first time. even, probably, in this studio we are discussing to whom it was a message, and whether they will hear it, and so on, maybe. the time is coming, perhaps, alexander grigorievich is talking about this when there is a reason to revise the list of participants treaty on collective security, maybe someone new to include , but there are many who want to, because there are countries that understand that it is impossible to cope with the western threat alone, but maybe some countries

wish. uh, to leave this union, because from the point of view of the military, yes, and political economic it is very important to feel that your partner will be with you in any situation about leaving. yes, we are now in the chairmanship, knowing the style and spirit of belarus and, in particular, alexander lukashenko what is called not on my shift agree here, but a matter of public discussion. perhaps already so long enough overdue. here is the csto, as an organization, what can be done, well, not declarative, but really working . what decisions should be made so that this organization still gains political and military weight? even more to the level to which it was planned, and andrey petrovich , his military point of view, a military expert yes , we heard another very important settlement, despite the fact that the contexts are now the most unfavorable and it was possible to to refer and say that well, let's put off until better times the solution of some tasks that can be tolerated, but belarus became

the chairman and the president said this, i will quote, but the most difficult tasks are ahead of me, for example, here i am. hmm, i will repeat the words of the president . we took the risk during our presidency to try to solve these problems that we have, and the caucasus and central asia we have problems there. let's try to resolve them and unite the organization as much as possible. hmm hard task but is it feasible at all now, this year , or are we just the main thing to start this path, and then it will follow further. you understand, this is most likely there, the very main premise that i wanted to tell the president about, in theory, as if everyone understands that yes, if we are all together, we are much stronger, but in practice everyone tries to pull the blanket anyway on ourselves , firstly, if we are talking about the dkb, it is quite such, well, an organization that is geographically very strong, well, it is located in almost the entire eurasian region. here and accordingly, what worries countries,

for example, central asia worries to a lesser extent, well, for example, belarus well, and vice versa , what is happening today is great. this is understanding and talking about the fact that you won’t have to serve time. here you need, the main thing is to understand at what stage you won’t have to serve time, because each of the republics of the members of the road accident perfectly understands what it means today to support a special military operation. it's immediately getting under the ax for the collective west it's immediately tough sanctions, which, moreover, cover all spectrums of the absolutely vital activity of the state, both external and internal, and , accordingly, whether any state is ready for this. and most importantly, we need to understand, really. do we really need those states that are really directly involved in this or that degree in this armed conflict. i mean the republic of belarus the russian federation do we need it we talk a lot about hybrid warfare. that is, today's actions are largely based on indirect actions, respectively, we are limited in

obtaining some modern technologies. we are limited in obtaining some resources that we do not have, perhaps we have the opportunity to receive these resources through these countries. maybe this is not a direct military assignment. maybe it will be just dual-use or civilian use. there we will figure out how good luck to attach it. maybe it really is. this is the exit exactly there, which allows us to get around, including males. well , as for the actual application in terms of military force, well, by and large, the military didn’t need a lot of political will in order to unite us. well, as the events in january showed, in january of last year, we will need a little time for this, about one to three days, enough for us to organize this organization and our main forces. first of all, the collective forces brought into action and efficiency. i think you've seen it all. that's why to speak clearly about

what we really need today to unite and oppose the collective west, or, nevertheless, we need to find other inputs and approaches in order to influence this process in the west, indeed, the message was indeed made by the president. not just correct, but he was still later and argued with all these words. it is connected , we really need to decide who at what stage will really enter, let's move on then there was another guest in minsk whose visit to the belarusian capital caused serious irritation in the west. of course, i have mind the head of the hungarian foreign ministry peter not only dared on the eve of his arrival in minsk dared to call the european parliament one of the most corrupt organizations in the world. so also here in minsk with a belarusian colleague he says that sanctions - it is wrong to discuss peaceful tracks in ukraine they took and agreed on a cooperation program for the whole 23 years. and what is most important, you see, in the arrival

of the hungarian minister, everyone tried to find symbols, some kind of designation, symbols. uh, moreover, the head of the mead tak himself indicated that his visit would definitely cause harsh criticism from outside. ah, eurostrange anglo-saxon conglomerate. but uh, the question is what will we continue to pursue, we pursue exclusively our national interests , if it’s profitable for us, and it’s profitable, well , hungarian, but to be friends with belarus, first of all, in the economy in production. well , we will do this and, in principle, your irritation is not important to us. and that's just such an independent. uh, the position of independent politics and annoying they don't obey brussels don't obey. it could be time said a number of ministers, and the question is what? but the head

of the foreign ministry is also the head of the external economic department, that is, his main task, including the solution of economic issues, and the question arises. and hungary did not support the sanctions policy. and the european union actually receives these resources at better prices and can cooperate with belarus, russia and other countries of the eurasian space and thereby solve their national economic problems. they have lower inflation, and neighboring countries also work for production. naturally, they look. the most important thing is that the simple population is a simple worker, they look and say, and then what happens, our politicians have betrayed us, and these national politicians have been chosen. and he observes his people. it is his interests. they are interests there, uh, america or uh, some corporations. well, it’s more , of course, what concerns such hungarian interests . yes, of course, but hungary, with this visit of the shining one to minsk

, has turned out to be pluses in this european field on the other hand. how would, but what u for us u it is clear that the chapter mida, like any diplomat, will not say everything publicly. in general, in my opinion, in his comments after the visit, he said that somewhere some meetings were public , some not public, it is important for us that the visit is here. hmm and a person of high office from europe is such the first sign, because many want the normalization of relations with belarus and russia, but so far it has not been collectively accepted and it is always more difficult to be the first. and the one who will be a locomotive and will first collect all e, some kind of negative about the fact that so you can't work with belarus but that's good, but yarta came to minsk after that. surely some other political players. the europeans will come to minsk with great pleasure because they want to work with belarus and communicate with belarus but here. we were afraid of this criticism. now all the bumps will be collected by the hungarians and then

it will be a little easier for everyone else. i think that ours is for our european diplomacy, which one way or another continues to exist and exist well, because there is behind-the-scenes negotiations, not public ones, but for our public pro-western such diplomacy. this is a very good starting signal, hungary in general, she is such a white crow in a european family. we saw how now during the summit in uh, in the eu , everyone ran applauding, hugging, kissing zelensky, while urban defiantly kept aloof. it was visible. he emphasized it. i would also like to say a few words on this topic. i’m in solidarity with alexei alekseevich that here the fault line runs along the ashes, e, the criterion of national anti-national elites serve their people serve a foreign master. but what else can i say? i can note a few things, firstly, hungary is quite rigidly distancing itself from that cultural policy. which takes place in the european union from that

bacchanali, bacchanali that is going on, i 'm talking about gender politics, about this cultural policy in general, or better to say the antips of pseudo cultural policy, there are strong catholic roots. eh, the hungarian people, they do not allow us to take the path of dehumanization. uh on the path of your own destruction european national culture, the second thing i want to note, but this one is probably such a strong statement, but due to the fact that now everyone is very closely following the fact, and who will ultimately win the conflict in ukraine, we are deeply convinced that the conflict in ukraine, yes, if they understand this, this is not a local conflict, this is a reformatting of the world an agent of the structure of the world. and if you join the winner, you can then reap the laurels of the winner, and i think that they take this moment into account and bet on e. soi to belarus as an ally of russia in this e-conflict.

uh, i want to emphasize again that there will be a redistribution following the results of this war. uh, peace, at least in european. eh, the continent and hungary are fully aware of the fact that now it is necessary to look, er, and er, into the future from this angle of vision. well, at the same time , we at least i noted that urban was in no hurry. hmm, to show a special feeling for zelensky but in the meantime, welcome. it was very warm, uh, both in the uk and in. brussels in general, this visit of zelensky is what you really expect, uh, what will it bring some real changes on the battlefield or such a ritual story. i will not explain why. the point is that the important premise for my thesis is that the elite of the collective west still retained a colonial mindset. they do not see zelensky as a partner, as an equal figure. this is a service. this is a colony with a servant is impossible. to carry on a conversation and not need to carry on a conversation as equals, they

must know their place. and the fact that they play these games. he arrived there, hugged him there , and so on. it's uh, the audience. i sure that they will have completely different conversations, but from their national interests, if they pursue them at all, and, most likely, from the instructions that they receive. well uh now. i think the following is weighed. that is, are they ready to become a participant having already thrown off their masks, they are practically already thrown off. well, it honestly depends. well, the parties to the conflict, we are fighting, uh, and the solution to this issue will depend on specific solutions. will they give planes? uh, will there be other types of weapons that can drastically turn the tide on the battlefield provided, but look andrey petrovich, here we are talking, when they indicate their position, no matter how they try to say that they just supplied these weapons, but do not participate in the conflict, but this is ridiculous. that is, it is not clear how one needs to be a distant person in order to avoid information. mm, to believe it, here is stoltenberg. uh, he said, a very important thing is to

create an even stronger army in ukraine after any end of the current conflict. that is, it suggests that it may be, even not only a colony, that is, this is a permanent military hot spot, a statement by stoltenberg, who, well, as they say, does not spare words today in relations. he really has such a character. uh, like maintaining this fire in the hearth of this confrontation. and today nato has taken such a position , they will give both planes and tanks, but only in those quantities that are necessary to maintain this conflict in order to try to destroy russia from the inside, because the outside from the outside it is impossible to destroy a state that has the world's strongest nuclear potential, which is why the stake is on the destruction of russia from the inside and, most importantly,

how they went about this destruction from the inside. they took the path of not using the liberals today, who by and large do not have any weight against the backdrop of a special military operation to raise patriotic feelings, and they are betting today on patriotic-minded people and dragging out the conflict actions will lead to the fact that the patriots, as in february of the seventeenth year , can, as they say, rise against the existing government and this cannot be allowed. although it is precisely with regard to nato itself that it is necessary to take a look at their military strategies, what they expect from us is some mitigation. until 2030, it is clearly spelled out for them and for the first time that in what is what in the us national security strategy that in strategy 2.000 until 2030 nato for the first time spelled out the republic of belarus where it is clearly defined that they care about human rights in our country, which supposedly the second one is also violated, that belarus is

one of the countries that interferes with the entire world order in europe . that is, what they have prepared for us is clear, it’s clear who won’t talk to us about it. even such words come. you know, in the background, a bent gingerbread, when one famous person said that. uh, a ukrainian politician who said promise them anything you want, and we'll hang them later. therefore, nato politicians must be treated very, very carefully about their time remarks. uh, really different sentiments about zelensky's visit on the one hand, we saw such a spectacular tour, uh, and the macrons, the scholz met with karl the third, but here is what new swake writes, for example, this is one of the authoritative publications of the european tour showed zelensky’s despair and the author of this article brandon call claims that zelensky is falling into despair is the realization that a meeting with european politicians does not give a result. that is , what the ukrainians might have counted on, whom

zelensky should have represented, that is, there is such a place there. we have such a very illustrative example with all these european and e tours - this is , in fact, madam, tikhonovskaya, who when this movement with european trips began. here her electorate was happily clapping their hands. and now he's alive. now everyone is going to be helped in some way. and so on. here is zelinsky, because plus or minus repeats exactly the same path of tikhonovskaya, this immediately causes a wow effect in the audience. here is the tikhanovskaya zelensky and the european audience, which is watching, observing the principles of democracy, the joy of victory over uh, russia and russians and so on, and then after some time, the electorate of tikhanovskaya zelensky immediately has an idea. well, it’s good that we’ve traveled and what, no matter how farther what it affects on anything, then the europeans already have exactly the same thoughts , well, they came again, but first she. and now, when we are talking about zelensky, zelensky has arrived again and that he is again asking for money, and

what's next? that is, this is an internal irritation. it seems to me, but hmm, on the one hand, our opponents. they are trying to cause absolutely agree irritation inside us inside the union state, but at the same time some steps of the collective west it seems to me that it still causes much more irritation to its audience in europe because, well, zelensky and here the topic of ukraine is fed up, and readers of the daily mail are absolutely criticizing it artificially again in the top. let's listen. now why is he even here this is not a british conflict. we must not interfere in this. we're giving british taxes to a telecomic hate-monger. why? of course, the establishment will help him. already made the decision to escalate permanently. instead of, to find a way out. please note that i will not die at the forefront of such a european one, and, unfortunately, politics is such an open convention, and then it all goes over and it ’s immediately fashionable for my

electorate to maintain the political field, well, the status and power, uh, praise zelensky and say about the fact that we should stand up for ukraine in a conflict with russia after some time, more and more fashionable, and in e. for the population becomes other theses. zelensky is not needed. i need to help ukraine why are we doing this. for what we spend a lot of money and the same people. you have some time that they shouted that let's help zelensky. they will shout with exactly the same zeal that everything is enough, we spent too much money. why does he come, because it's just such a european, political situation. well, here is the most important thing to add. we even see from the faces of european politicians, not zelensky , that in reality they are all at an impasse. they don't know how to get out of it. they can only do. this show he can several times to come there for a day several times there to call to do. uh, show program, but that doesn't really solve it. the

main problem is theirs. they wanted to destroy through ukraine , as it was correctly said, somewhere within a year or two, and lead russia to protests, and the collapse of the russian economy, even after russia would be conditional on them. and naturally, they could not achieve this further to deal with china. yes, russia was able to mobilize, huh? ma- could unite and the integration association, including a union state, yes, uh, a military group is stationed with us, and they are already forced to play this theater of the absurd to the end, but they don’t really know how to get out of it. they will continue to focus only on escalation, because as soon as they stop the whole world. and most importantly, global investors. here they will sit for coffee and laugh at them very much, because they lost, but everyone else started. and what should zelensky do , and in any case, he will rise someday , regardless of how it will be

the end of the conflict in ukraine somehow fits to the words of really ukrainian, uh, hmm representatives. here, in particular, the minister of foreign affairs kuleba, who, on february 23-24, the anniversary of the beginning of his life are expected to quote great events that russia will remember. well, uh, on the one hand, you can't say that they're not preparing something, you can't treat it with some kind of humor and say, nothing will happen. it is clear that e zelensky , his entire team is pr people. so some kind of action first action provocation they will cook where it will shoot on the territory, and the russian federation on the border. it’s impossible to say for sure that it was fired there, but for us, for our population, for our power structures of government agencies. we must definitely be ready for any provocations and know how to respond to it, and most importantly, before that, we must collect all the information about any provocation. it just doesn't happen. yes

, there are always, uh, information trails, so it’s clear that now the west needs to make some kind of strong blow against russia information political foreign policy economic financial. well, whether they succeed in this all depends primarily on how we predict them ourselves, the most dangerous thing here. this is not the first time we have discussed this. in general, it’s even a shame that listen, 8 years ago , the norman four met in minsk and discussed it. there was a chance we even saw some movements, and there were escalations, but then merkel and poroshenko were told that all this was a front. and look now, kuleba is talking about february 23-24. even though a couple of weeks ago says that there is some kind of ten-point peace plan from zelensky in the plan, that is, there is no smell of peace negotiations, a crisis of confidence. and here, by the way, i remember.

ah, a statement, not a statement of the word silvia berlusconi by the experiments of the minister of italy, who just throws zelensky in the face, and the next one was enough for him to stop attacking the two autonomous republics of donbass and this would not have happened, therefore i evaluate the behavior of this gentleman says berlusconi about zelensky very, very negative indeed. last time we see that zelensky again and again makes a statement that he put an end to the minsk agreements. although i remind you that he came to power, promising his voters that he would stop the bloodshed from becoming a war. that's how it is in this world, and hope for some kind of negotiations, when no one else can be trusted. forces to watch how the conflict in ukraine will end after that, rebuild the world, that is , forget about the fact that diplomacy should work. here, how do you see it? well, in my opinion. here, mmm, too, can not be underestimated

ukraine, on the one hand, but you still need to look at it not as a subject, as an object of politics, therefore, not everything is far dependent on one ukraine from one zelensky for one simple reason, that we are talking now on february 24-23, if you need a picture, but you need a picture why first, to show that the money that is invested today, the west will work out, what to expect on this day, otherwise ukraine, uh, first of all from the leadership. yes, ukraine, well, here the spectrum is very wide. yes, starting from we were also witnesses of a terrorist act against daria dugina. we saw that there were also mailings poisoned streams. by the way, yes, explosions of the northern streams , the destruction of the crimean bridge. e attack on the air on the naval base in sevastopol that is, the same airfields in diaghilev in engels, that is, the spectrum is very, very wide. moreover, supplied weapons, well, they are actually the most modern, which

are supplied today by the west, they allow somewhere at a depth of 300 to 300 km to act on this. we should like behave in this situation in this situation. you understand best. reply. you were in the same situation. you will remember on new year's eve, when they also promised to celebrate this situation best of all, general suroviki answered this situation with a massive missile strike, which, in principle, distracted not only ukraine but the entire west, that's how it is necessary for you here, that is, in this situation a military solution to this problem. it had conditionally all defense attack, of course, of course, therefore, in my opinion, we were witnesses new year events. they really demonstrated russia's readiness and determination to defend itself in these conditions, but to find numbers. vladimir putin has a big conference planned. yes, respectively. that's what kiev is trying to do now, it's setting the stage for diverting media attention. and the whole world from putin’s statement, because here it seems to me, but the whole world will rather remember what they say and what

putin will announce. but kiev is already trying, and distracting from this topic by making stuffing about something will happen, there and at the conference, he some decisions will be made. but in general, this is such a methodology of arrestovich, talk a lot and make some forecasts. you see something, maybe it will come true and say that you are lucky, but from the point of view. what to do? and hmm when, unfortunately, there are fewer and fewer politicians like they take off the horses. and how are the russians there? uh, someone from the west spoke, and the russians have one unpleasant thing. such a trait they do what they say, yes, this is approximately how it is perceived by putin lukashenka , there are fewer such leaders, and more and more such political ones, well, i’ll say rude balabols and conventurers who say one thing, what i will do. in fact, no one understands. in general, it does not have at all, accordingly, in the near future, it seems that the whole international lomatya will go into a non-public plane. i think i answer

your question. on how to get out of the crisis of confidence, i am sure that this path will be long, uh, and not at all easy. here, the minister of affairs of russia, lavrov, said that he had no idea at all about how we would generally reach normal relations after of, uh, what has been done and how much has been destroyed, but nevertheless, if we talk about the conditions for returning to normal relations, then, it seems to me, several conditions must be met, first to gain one’s strength , strength, both economic and military and ideological. here i would like to recall the minister of foreign affairs of the soviet union, our countryman gromyk andrey andreyevich, who was called mr. no, of course he was not mr. and to me, he just knew how to negotiate, to be able to say compromises. he is tough and relentless he put his interests not on his own, but on the interesting countries that he represented, and this led to the fact that sr was respected, including that his interests were taken into account not

by kozyrevism, but by giving up emotional interests. yes, to be patted on the back, namely, to be able to defend yourself, including, uh, there by diplomatic military and other means, and secondly, uh. i think a reset of international institutions will be necessary. he does not work with other institutions that we see today, where he is in all these processes, no one hears at all, but after all, alexander is also a challenge to our internal such integrity, and mobilization in the military sense, but in such a mental cognitive sense absolutely right. now i would just like to move on to the fact that you have implemented this step in your organization. for a long time we have been thinking about how white russia, when there is a base, can be turned into a political party. and now they have found this way out, when the organization remains a union of yours and the party. that's how it is construction, here. is written off in the context that we are with you today discussing. ah.

well, just a few more seconds, i’ll say that i wanted to support your thesis that we should be strong not only in the military political, which i spoke about above, but also in ideological terms, there should not be these flirtations, partners are friends there and so on, yes and fool yourself. we must clearly understand that we have we have our country. there is our national interest and civilizational identity of the eastern european 116 and it must be protected, as far as, uh, parties and public associations are concerned. surely they saw one from parcels. our country needs instruments of unity and a party. can and should be one of those tools. after all, what is a party? this is a unity built on ideology on a specific program and division. here is a certain body of value and meaning, this is a necessary condition for membership in the party, after this, the corresponding activity is the activity of the country politically, in an ideological such a public worldview, or something

, and such a task the party can solve, it is very important to choose the right one spiritual ideological foundations. they are the system of meanings that even today we can call it the ideology of the belarusian statehood and which is largely reflected in the constitution in the messages that we introduced to the updated constitution at last year's referendum. and we don’t have much time left, but uh, here, trying to collect the main, let’s say , thoughts that were voiced today during this conversation, and we understand perfectly well that now, apart from direct military confrontation. there are much more serious ones and some call it a hybrid, some call it a proxy. but there is really a struggle of ideas , a struggle for brains. that's quite recently. ah , think tanks in the united states of america in england are, as the clock is known, atlantic council think tanks. uh, i published an article in which well, i

won’t name them, our viewers are not enough, what if they say, but for specialists. these are well-known people, so look how they will tie you up. what things they write is extremely important for ukraine's friends and allies in the west to punish lukashenka's regime fixes the first. and then it will help the belarusian pro-democracy movement in the battle for the hearts and minds of the belarusian people by exposing that lukashenka's support for the war is a direct cause of the growing instability of economic difficulties. that is, they are now correcting the training manual, they are starting what you see with us now, here is the war at the side of the belarusians. this is where they participate. they say that they participated, which means all our economic difficulties. e about this, that is, they forgot that the sanctions were long before their stuff. and here i want. here you are first to suggest before your answers the words of the president, who would have said last week. he said that we are talking about the price process, in fact, there is not

a single meeting now that goes narrowly . only on one igor. here you are, like stripes of a journalist. don't let me collect. that is, it is always considered in the complex. yes? let's hear the president today the question is more than the goal. this is the basis of a just internal order and peace in our country. pricing is the foundation of a fair peace in belarus is the main article of the agreement between the government and the people, so we must endure, we must endure, everyone must strive to save our country. i categorically declare that we have everything for this. we can't just keep it. and when this cart of the planet ends, we will be an order of magnitude higher than all the facts. today i can't. so i never cheated on you. all my predictions have always been wrong. look in short, the global girl is coming, we hear the president saying that we have everything not just to survive in

these circumstances, but also come out with a plus, which the situation requires of us. well, first of all here i would like to say that really hmm because. we can say that the west is trying in every possible way to turn away from us. well, let's call it that, then definitely. we are already choosing completely the vector is really eastern, this is already evident. well, it's getting stronger in all directions. well, interaction with the russian federation is, as they say. in priore, this as a constant should be very globally interactable today. today, within the framework of the csto. first of all, as in the organization of the state , we not only form actions there or conduct exercises there , we interact with collective forces within the framework of this organization, but also develops very widely in the educational military sphere. e tendencies have been outlined very widely and a lot. we work in the scientific field. uh, we maintain very serious serious interaction with the people's republic of china, primarily with the people's

liberation army of china. so i want to say that here is the eastern vector, which selected. i think for us, first of all, it is promising for the coming years , maybe even for the next decade. on this, one can say that we must certainly get into the pluses today, even if we look to the west. you see, all globalist ideas have faded into the background, everyone has completely begun to engage in the restoration of the military-industrial complex. what is the military industrial complex military industrial complex any way, it is a boost or any economy, that is, anyway. component but push for the development of the state in general, as such in the economic in the political, it shows how strong this state is really, if it has strong power, then, accordingly, it is strong power. it can show itself only in these difficult conditions of the situation, where it is really necessary to make strong-willed decisions and bring these strong-willed decisions to the end. uh , our conclusions, what should we be in order to go through this track, you know, here is the president,

he speaks clearly, he speaks the idea of ​​justice. yes, and also in lassual propaganda of the first world war. it clearly says what war is. this is a war of ideas against ideas, that is, our idea, it is the strongest, because it is very difficult to break it. and that's why the president is not pushing the ideas of some kind of free market. let's develop private corporations, let's develop. he says, no, we need to develop in such a way that everyone who comes to the store feels this justice. they are so coming to the store. could buy it? here you are we expressed general justice there will be no justice will always begin internal conflicts. this one earns more, this one earns less, this one can afford more. this should not be, and uh, it should be noted that the president did not only talk about prices and about the uneven distribution of income. this is also injustice, and our task now is to make sure that our opponents are ours. well, let's just call it

directly, the enemies did not use any technology, ideological in order to rock our society. uh, showing that you see that there, and a better car than you have, go there to do it. yes, this is unfair reality, we are at all levels why? here the president says everyone should protect e our country, because at all levels in all regions of distant points. ah, those in charge of outreach should go and speak to the public. thanks a lot. ah, often the simplest. and at the same time, the most difficult thing, yes, everyone should , uh, do their own, uh, business well at each specific workplace, but also solve those problems that we have in our country, as in any country in the world. they have some problems pain points, just the same collective the west is trying to put pressure on us and is trying to break us from the inside, relying on some of our internal problems. and it would be extremely stupid in this situation to

turn a blind eye to some problems that exist. and with closing your eyes you will not solve the problem exactly, therefore, if suddenly we have some points of tension in society. it could be prices. it could be an uneven distribution of income. it might be a question. do not know what to do with the fugitive return do not return. and these problems need to be quickly resolved, without giving opportunities for these sometimes strictly financial , strictly economic, strictly social petty problems, starting with a hole in the road, but so that they do not develop into political problems when due to a hole in the road in some city. trying to get the people in this city kind of against the authorities, although the problem. it's easy in the pit, but there was no timely solution, so the first to see the problem. now it is extremely important to honestly see them, recognize them and solve them. eh, if we do it quickly and clearly, then, in general. these are western attempts to influence us we will not scary. thank you alexander. i think that in order for us to reach a higher level and get stronger and find ourselves here in the post, uh, war

era, among the leaders of the world, we also need to solve this problem and part with the illusions and myths that modern public consciousness is full of , after all. uh, a lot of people sincerely believe that, well, everything is in order in the world. in general, uh, people there in the west and generally everywhere they are good, they want to be friends, trade there, get married. and we're talking about some kind of war about something that we need to have a strong army, and consider such a formulation of the question as inadequacy. rather, on the contrary, it is the inadequacy of living in this illusion of such a complacent and kind world into which we must enter. well, in addition, there are a lot of other myths and historical myths, and in this sense, the work that is being carried out in our country , these dialogue platforms that have become a political e, a brand or a brand of political e, culture, and our society , they must continue. and in general, this work with consciousness, which, among other things, our association also leads many others. e

subjects of this process, there is social science. well, for many, it must continue and become even more active and truly effective. to be honest, there is an unplowed field in this e in this plane to work. e need. well, thank you very much. thank you for participating in our program. but we continue the program in a couple of minutes, the well-known russian political scientist and public figure sergei turgenev is in touch. so stay with us. we continue, ongoing events require not only careful fixation, but first of all it is important to see the deep meanings. the reason is an investigative connection, but for this you must agree , we need not just experts, real thinkers , and we are glad that we have the opportunity to communicate with one of them today sergey kurginyan sergey ivanovich hello, thank you for finding uh time for us. thank you for inviting. ah, with the submission of individual

representatives of the ukrainian country , the topic of the korean scenario for ukraine appeared, so how do you feel about probability perfectly. they will never go for it. let's divide under the dnieper that is, this will be the thirty-eighth parallel ukraine let's divide under it what korea is, this is divided korea divided into ukraine for god's sake yes take this lviv and everything else for yourself and uh, how would you exercise there, as you wish, even though the poles at least someone yes for god's sake what's the problem? one that this will never be understand? why is it never out of the question? boris nikolaevich yeltsin please forgive me, he sometimes had very vivid tirades. yes, such people once asked him so provocative. but

tell me, please, is it possible for a jew to become the head of the russian state? that it won't accept the policy. he's so shot. yes, there is no ukrainian politics inside, we will not accept this again. and the second will not accept it. the west does not need it. nobody needs it, eternal war. well, the task is this once upon a time who is gorbachev to me already said somewhere in his fund that, while you were still some petty scientific collaborators. so i went there to meet with twenty-two very influential people, in my opinion, he said to paris, i didn’t say mikhail sergeevich europe is dead and will be dead until the russian cauldron boils. here the russian cauldron boiled, who needs

to stop it, macbeth's witches sit and say, and i'll blow. into the sieve. thank you for that, the cauldron is boiling. yes, and they only accurately verify the temperature. they need a brew that's on slow fire is preparing. yes, it is not necessary so once and for all. yes, we are here in conditions where we will not do anything unilaterally. they will impose a war, it must be won. they talk russian cauldron in order to achieve a result, and we must achieve a result from this warm-up b. just don't talk like that all the time. it is not known that at first it is satanism, and then that together with the americans we won the cold war. well, don't do this, i beg you. well, you can't are watching. you guys in official positions are looking at you and smiling meanly predatory. hmm my all sympathies. not on

the side. those who under smiles. why do you give such a reason so impossible. this i say, not to you of course, but to those who bend it all. yes, the names there are so familiar, something from the soviet era. yes, that's the point here. that we can only do one thing, but we can? to create and use the potentials of new lives from the energy of the russian boiler, which no one will stop. slowly calmly not without some dramatizations, you need to extract and extract this energy of new life. we need to prepare for even much more troubles, we need to do everything possible, and thank god that this is so that this is not discharged by any nuclear war. nobody needs her. this means that the temperature in the boiler jumped sharply, yes, right away, but you need to change your life. this is

the worst thing they are afraid of, they need to seriously calmly change their lives, leaving all the best that they managed to turn out. well, you managed to do something, damn it, and this is the best to connect not directly with some kind of restoration constructions, and with rethought modules of the past , the rethought nobility will be crushed in such a way. then they will start negotiations. well, i don't know, like the cold war model or anything. uh, the general on general issues will always hate, plot intrigues all the time , set fire to something somewhere along the borders, but right now they will not go over to a nuclear war if they go over to any. they have nothing to do magically, or a cosmic replacement. there are nuclear, so to speak, devices with some kind of rods from outer space. yes

, so that the effect was just as destructive, but without infection. so it seems to me that there are madmen who want a nuclear war, but there are not many of them. so we need to move there. we will not change this constant and do not listen to what someone in ukraine is talking about, no one will share anything. nobody will share anything. it will be completely different to strike more, as if tangibly, using more separate sick weapons and trying to create. revenge. here are some new details around. uh, northern streams, an investigation by an american family journalist. hersh, convincingly proves that the americans staged a terrorist attack, the norwegians helped, but can this information affect anything at all , given that, for example, the western press, it defiantly ignores this sensational material or even tries to turn hershe into a traitor, or even a madman . oh, can i

say, there is one thing, a really very talented journalist. i know an investigative journalist. yes it costs there 10 well trained spies. yes, he is a nimble guy and can sniff out everything, but in one percent of 100 cases. this is such a talent. yes, the eccentric is always such a slightly kooked such a sniffer. yes, this is a very important figure. on hersh. it is not quite this, but in all other cases. i want this to be remembered as plums. these plums are journalists with experience, authority and a corresponding reputation, who give information, and they draw up, and this has always been the twentieth century. yes, and not only means the question is who leaked it, all this to hershu.

who leaked it to him, but who leaked it, he wants something, yes, but what he wants is what he eats. the most important intrigue in this field, so the question here is that of course everyone will hush up and everyone will be indignant, but this hersh, it's not well. he is not a suicide, he is from the elite, he is a respectable person. if he realized that it would be a strong b-bom for him, he wouldn’t do it, you know, in some way. uh, so it’s like one of the leaders of the pravda newspaper told me in the soviet era, we are not a village life magazine, we don’t have directives, we have pdds control. we have to guess what to print? and that there is no pnd board , so hersh is controlled by trends. he understands where it is possible, where it is impossible, he feels ingenious, where it is a justified risk. for

which there will be e gingerbread and there will not be very much bo-bo. and where is this madness, and he won’t go crazy, i repeat, this is not an osanj, and it’s not easier, which means that he coldly calculated everything. he spoke modestly, but people with grayish faces. yes. uh, not only from the cia, but from somewhere cooler, i think. there is a department more abruptly. so i realized that you can. yes, i received the material, checked it and leaked it. having issued it literary for this they give pulsar prizes, but you understand for nothing else, and for another bullet the vlog does not lie down. even when the president, because when a journalist, even more so. and here is an important point, because there is still one operation under the direct supervision of biden's national security adviser sullivan

, which was conceived and developed even before the start of the special operation in ukraine, and russia's indignation is understandable, but will the germans calmly swallow that that, in fact, the main goal of undermining is to deprive europe of cheap gas, to bring down industrial power, first of all, germany germany is absolutely not sovereign. absolutely well, i don’t know, i always said something, there, that i talked when the soviet period, when i headed the center for strategic research of representatives of the ministers of the ussr yes, he talked with such john moroz , he said that if only germany will begin to connect with russia on the ruins of the soviet union yes, then it will be a nuclear war in europe yes, but i can say a lot more the head of one of the large ones, well, understandable to us this orientation, sympathizing with the german parties, he spoke to me right in the building of the moat of the parliament. so what about german. so what, i can

build socialism in germany in 2 weeks. in 2 weeks i 'll take a few steps, and there will be socialism. and what then, then what are you? you understand that then quit military repression , this will all be over, so he says instead of doing business, yes, and a new system in germany we will discuss the details of contracts, between hmm employers said me with a dull look, then looked and said what you have done, what you have done. and to emphasize that this is a large figure rather large. so, it's just there that it's all tightly grasped. maybe i don’t fully know how exactly i was captured, but you understand tightly, tightly.

there is no germany germany is not sovereign europe is not sovereign, and in this sense, all our attempts to find something, for example, the ultra-right, yes, well, at least some rude things if we failed to enter europe let's at least have something with someone fray. this attempt is fit, not regrettably useless means. do you understand? well, no, there's nothing guys. it will not help, not in any, there is a conditional alain case or some kind of morilin there or someone else did fraternal unity. i do not know that the right of russia and the right of europe is bluff left and wild trash now all over the world they are destroyed. eh, as if they were turned into some kind of perverted slime and you won’t understand, chuvash, that well, people are watching if there is nothing in the center. and why not go to the right from here and before lunch? yes, but it's pointless there is external control. and uh, they have some variations. what bidens and obamas

or trumps they have there, it does not matter. there inside there is a core and cast. the core of the elite, which will govern in a simple way, we change the means of achieving power while maintaining the goal of maintaining the strengthening of power, the whole cold face of such a sinning, but hmm, debilitating master of the world, which he, of course, grows decrepit and likes to talk about, he demeans, but he remains owners. yes, everyone is talking. look , look, he has pigment spots on his hands. yes, spots on the hands, and you see the claws, but the claws are still the same look. it's an old tiger, he has such yellow teeth, they are yellow, but if he squeezes, it will hurt your throat, prepare for strength. look for sources of strength in yourself in your history in your people.