[000:00:00;00] the mother language day was celebrated at the logical university at the international level. students from 38 countries, boys and girls, read poems and sang songs, both in their native language and in belarusian , a 105 km long ski crossing to vitebsk paratroopers overcome in honor of the 105th anniversary of the armed forces in belarus, 105 servicemen set off along a given route; it passes through memorable places. guards of the north of the country, laid flowers at the mass graves of the vitebsk region, the final point and the ski crossing will become a memorial complex adamenskaya, a hill in the district center will organize an exhibition of weapons and equipment , interactive platforms will be deployed. shrovetide week takes place in belarus - this is the border between spring and winter, as well as a meat-eater and lent, a folk song, round dances and burning a scarecrow, the main attributes of the east slavic holiday maslenitsa and , of course, treating pancakes with various

fillings, the hostess of the estate shares her recipes for making cheeses and whipping butter in the pukhovichi region. why maslenitsa because the cows were divided a lot of milk and butter, so they baked pancakes with butter and cheese, so cheese week. we make cheese. children don’t know how cheese is made, and they have a demonstrative master class, how you can weave a pigtail from milk, everyone’s favorite chechen pigtail cheese, they will see this and try to make it with their own hands. most importantly, have fun. noisy stations with songs with a burning scarecrow to spend the winter and meet the spring. hello, i just want to wish our viewers to get comfortable, excellent composition of experts in this

release. i welcome our guests. thank you for taking the time, and the second part of the program is well known, russian public figure. sergey kurgin, so what awaits you and me, a meaningful conversation, today security is the number one issue with this. and let's start on monday, alexander lukashenko held a meeting with the new general secret of the dkb. let me remind you that belarus is chairing the organization this year, but i would like to start with such a fragment. we look, if someone thinks that there is a conflict in ukraine and russia, this is not our conflict, that we will sit quietly somewhere, nothing like this will happen. the time will come, it is literally not far away. here it is tomorrow, when hmm this time will require to be determined to take a certain position. i am not saying that it is to the detriment of national interests and so on, but with all our allied shortcomings. we will have to clearly

define our policy and our line in order to act. i suggest, probably, and your experience to this was pushed together together it is always easier such a frank and honest message to our partners in an accident what do you think, did you hear everything? first, i'll tell you about what, from my point of view, the head of our state was leaving when he sent this message. i think that it came not so much from an appeal to solidarity to some moral feelings. how much he spoke the simple truth that it is impossible to ensure security alone in the modern world, if we draw a historical analogy, then the thirties of the 20th century, uh, in some ways resembled the current situation, and the ussr urged by all means to create a unified security system in europe if it had been created, then the general staff of the wehrmacht

would hardly have decided on such an adventure, because he understood that the united forces of europe of the soviet union were much larger, but they preferred to sit out in their national apartments. somewhere they played their games, they got what they got, and today we have a situation similar to the need to unite in order to meet those challenges, and challenges. really close to the third world war to the beginning of the third world war in order to find challenges to give an adequate answer, what else do i want to say our partners in the csc need to understand about this. uh, a simple thing, that the goals of the collective west are not small countries in the post-soviet space, their real goals are russia and china as major geopolitical competitors and they hit these goals using such a favorite method of anglo-saxon geopolitics, creating an anaconda loop well, that is along the perimeter, creating a hostile environment and suffocating in this

hostile environment, unleashing conflicts on the borders. uh, they put military bases there, provoking chaos, which will inevitably spill over into, the territory of russia, and there will be chaos, including among the partners in the csd, who will limit with russia in this sense , i want to emphasize once again my idea, and ensuring security. not for someone not for someone else's uncle. this is for yourself, for your people, and only together. we'll be able to provide it. alexei well, it's really involved. now we will see that last year was such a test of independence , first in kazakhstan, then we saw the armenians and the azerbaijani conflict, where very difficult, of course, for us the situation is on the one hand. armenia is a member of the state security committee on the other hand, azerbaijan is such a traditional one for us, a big partner. here it was very important not to aggravate the presence of an accident, that is, understandably, not to resolve the situation. there the task is different, but from the point of view of hearing this message that was voiced in minsk on monday. as you see it, you know, we

still have to understand that in reality the tkb is a union of sovereign states. and those who are fighting against us are large corporations, industrial banking corporations and they have a plan for the next 15 years. this is the destruction of sovereign states. uh immerse them, and in a state of chaos. e. the complete destruction of any constitutional system of any government agencies of law enforcement agencies, uh, and. and the immersion of the population is just such a very severe socio-economic crisis. and when the president says that, uh, tomorrow this challenge will come, the challenge is just related to the confrontation of sovereign states with their those corporations, if we do not resist, and we alone will definitely not we will be able to resist their huge, and their assets e money supply, but together we can resist and save our world, and most importantly

, keep the world in order. eh, completely different. not the one that a large corporation is trying to impose now, i will suggest to the national elites of these countries those who own large capitals, because the russian one has roughly shown that these young capitals, no matter how big they were, they were equal. players in a large arena quickly indicate their place, respectively, save their capital when you go beyond the limits of your national jurisdiction, if you are not a sovereign, it is extremely difficult, perhaps this is also a call to the fact that times have really changed now igor what do you think, but let's do it with our opponents and even i would call enemies. here is. in general, what our country has a little less hmm is unity. despite the fact that, of course, there in the west they also swear about how many weapons to supply e to ukraine e, how does anyone see the fighting in from the point of view of national interests, but there is some kind of only

there is, if such unity is on our part, even if we consider the csto. well, let's just say that there are certain questions about this unity, and this is not the first time we have. uh, hmm, not the first time. the president says that we must all be united in the csto, and this is not the first time. even, probably, in this studio we are discussing to whom it was a message, and whether they will hear it, and so on, maybe. the time is coming, perhaps, alexander grigoryevich is talking about this, when there is a reason to revise the list of participants in the collective security treaty, maybe there must be someone new to turn on, and there are many who want to, because there are countries that understand that it is impossible to cope with the western threat alone, but it is impossible, maybe some countries wish. uh, to leave this union, because from the point of view of the military, yes, and political economic it is very important to feel that your partner will be with you in any situation about leaving. yes, we are now in the chairmanship, knowing the style and spirit of belarus and in

particular alexander lukashenko what is called not on my shift, i agree here, but the question public discussion. perhaps already so long enough overdue. here is the csto, as an organization, what can be done, well, not declarative, but really working . what decisions should be made so that this organization still gains political and military weight? even more to the level to which it was planned, and andrei petrovich, his military point of view, is a military expert . yes, we heard another very important settlement, despite the fact that the contexts are now the most unfavorable and one could refer to it and say that well, okay, postpone for the best times are the solution of some tasks that can be tolerated, but belarus became the chairman and the president said this, i will quote, but the most difficult tasks have become, for example, here i am. hmm, i will repeat the words of the president. we took the risk during our presidency to try to solve these problems that we have, and the caucasus and central asia we have problems there. let's

try to resolve them and unite the organization as much as possible. hmm, a difficult task, but is it doable at all now this year , or are we just just the main thing to start this path, and there it will follow further. you understand, this is most likely there, the very main premise that the president wanted to talk about, in theory, as if everyone understands that yes, if we are all together, we are much stronger, well, in practice, everyone tries to pull the blanket anyway on ourselves , firstly, if we are talking about the dkb, it is quite such, well, an organization that is geographically very strong, well, it is located in almost the entire eurasian region. and accordingly, what worries countries, for example, central asia to a lesser extent worries, well, for example, belarus well, and vice versa , what is happening today is great. this is understanding and talking about the fact that you won’t have to serve time. here you need, the main thing is to understand at what stage you won’t have to serve time, because each of the republics of the members of the road accident

perfectly understands what it means today to support a special military operation. it is immediately to fall under the ax for the collective west, these are immediately harsh sanctions, which, moreover, cover all spectrums of the absolutely vital activity of the state, both external and internal and accordingly, whether any state is ready for this. and most importantly, we need to understand, really. do we really need those states that are really directly involved in this or that degree in this armed conflict. i mean the republic of belarus the russian federation do we need it we talk a lot about hybrid warfare. that is, today's actions are largely based on indirect actions, so we are limited in obtaining some modern technologies. we limited in obtaining some resources that we do not have, perhaps we have the opportunity to receive these resources through these countries. maybe this is not a direct military assignment. maybe it will be just dual-use or civilian use. there we will figure out how good luck

to attach it. maybe it really is. this is the exit exactly there, which allows us to get around, including males. well , as for the actual use in terms of military force, then well, by and large, a lot was not required from the military, it was political the will to unite us. well, as the events in january showed, in january of last year, we will need a little time for this, about one to three days, enough for us to organize this organization and our main forces. first of all, the collective forces brought into action and efficiency. i think you've seen it all. that is why it is unequivocal to say that we really need to unite today and oppose the collective west, or we still need to find other entrances and approaches for in order to influence this process in the west, the message was indeed made by the president. not just correct, but

he was still later and argued with all these words. it is connected , we really need to decide who at what stage will really enter, let's move on then there was another guest in minsk whose visit to the belarusian capital caused serious irritation in the west. of course, i mean the head of the hungarian foreign ministry, petr, not only did he dare to call the european parliament the day before his arrival in minsk one of the most corrupt organizations in the world. so here in minsk, with a belarusian colleague , he says that sanctions - it is wrong to discuss peaceful tracks in ukraine. they agreed on a cooperation program for the whole 23 year. and what is the main thing you see in the arrival of the hungarian minister, but everyone tried to find symbols, some kind of designation symbols. uh, moreover, the head of the foreign ministry, tak, indicated that his visit would definitely cause sharp criticism from

the outside. ah, eurostrange, anglo-saxon, like a glomerate. but the question is what's next continued, we pursue exclusively our national interests, if it’s profitable for us, and it’s profitable, well, hungarian, and to be friends with belarus , first of all, in the economy in production. well, we will do this and we, in principle, do not care about your irritation. and that's just such an independent. uh, the position of independent politics and annoying they don't obey brussels doesn't obey. it could be time said a number of countries a number of ministers. ah. and what is the question? but the head of the foreign ministry is also the head of the foreign economic department, that is its main task, including the solution of economic issues, and the question arises. and hungary did not support the sanctions policy. and the european union actually receives these resources at

better prices and can cooperate with belarus, russia and other countries of the eurasian space and thereby solve their national economic problems. they have lower inflation, and neighboring countries also work for production. naturally, they look. the most important thing is that the common people are a simple worker , they look and say, and then what happens our politicians have betrayed us, and these national politicians have been chosen. and-and his people and observes it is his interests. they are the interests of, there, america and, uh, some corporations. well, it’s more, of course, what concerns such hungarian interests. yes, of course, but in hungary , with this visit of the shining one to minsk , it turned out to be pluses in this european field on the other hand. no matter what, but what is it for us? it is clear that the head of the foreign ministry, like any diplomat , will not say everything publicly. in general, he, in my opinion, in his comments after the visit and said that somewhere some meetings were public, some not public

, it is important for us that the visit is hmm and a high-ranking person from europe is such a first sign, because many want to normalize relations with belarus and russia, but so far collectively not accepted and always harder to be first. and the one who will be the locomotive and will first collect all some kind of negativity on himself regarding the fact that it’s impossible and impossible to work with belarus but that’s good, but art came to minsk after that surely some other political players. the europeans will come to minsk with great pleasure because they want to work with belarus and communicate with belarus. but here. we were afraid of this criticism. now all the bumps will be collected by the hungarians and then it will be a little easier for everyone else. i think that ours is for our european diplomacy, which one way or another continues to exist and exist well, because there are behind-the-scenes negotiations, not public ones, but for our public pro-western such diplomacy - this is very such a good starting signal, hungary in general, she is such

a white crow in a european family. we saw how now during the summit in e, in the eu everyone ran applauded , hugged, kissed zelensky, and urban defiantly kept aloof. it was visible. he emphasized it. i would also like to say a few words on this topic. i am in solidarity with aleksey alekseevich that here the fault line passes along the ashes, the criterion of the national anti-national elite, they serve their people, they serve as foreign masters. but what else can i say? can to note a few things, firstly, hungary is quite rigidly distancing itself from that cultural policy. which takes place in the european union from that bacchanali, bacchanali that is going on, i'm talking about gender politics, about this cultural policy in general, or better to say the antips of pseudo cultural policy, there are strong catholic roots. eh, the hungarian people, they do not allow us to take

the path of dehumanization. uh, on the path of destroying your european national culture, the second thing i want to note, but this is probably such a strong statement, but connected with the fact that now everyone is very closely watching who will ultimately win the conflict in ukraine, we are deeply convinced that the conflict in ukraine , yes, if this is understood, this is not a local conflict, this is a reformatting of the world an agent of the structure of the world. and if you join the winner, you can then reap the laurels of the winner, and i think that they take this moment into account and bet on e. this is belarus as an ally and russia is in this conflict. eh, i want to emphasize again, ah emphasize the outcome of this war will be redistribution. uh, peace, at least in european. eh, the continent and hungary are fully aware of the fact that now it is necessary to look, er, and er, into the future from this angle of vision. well , at the same time, mine. at least i noted that urban

was in no hurry. hmm, to evoke a special feeling for zelensky. but meanwhile welcome. it was very warm, uh, both in the uk and in. brussels in general, this visit of zelensky is real. you expect it to bring some real change on the battlefield or some kind of ritual history. i don't, i'll explain why the point is that the important premise of my thesis is that the elite of the collective west still retained a colonial mindset. they do not see zelensky as a partner, as an equal figure. this is a service. this is a colony with a colony with servants is impossible. to carry on a conversation and not need to carry on a conversation as equals, they must know their place. and the fact that they play these games. he arrived there , hugged him there, and so on. it's uh, the audience. i am sure that they will have completely different conversations, but from their national interests, if they pursue them at all b and most likely from the indications they

receive. well uh now. i think the following is weighed. that is, are they ready to become a participant already having thrown off their masks, they are practically so thrown off. well, it honestly depends. well, the parties to the conflict, we are fighting, uh, and the solution to this issue will depend on specific solutions. will they give planes? uh, will there be other types of weapons that can radically turn the tide on the battlefield provided, but look andrey petrovich, here we are talking when they indicate their position, no matter how, no matter how they try to say that they just supplied these weapons, but they are participating in the conflict, but this is ridiculous. that is, it is not clear how one needs to be a distant person in order to avoid information. mm, to believe it, here is stoltenberg. e, said, in general, the important thing is to create an even stronger army in ukraine after any conclusion of the current conflict. that is, this suggests that it may not even be only a colony, that is, this is a permanent military hot

the point is the statement of stoltenberg, who, well, as they say, does not spare words today in all respects, he really has such a character. uh, like maintaining this fire in the hearth of this confrontation. and today nato has taken such a position, they will give both planes and tanks, but only in those quantities that are necessary to maintain this conflict in order to try to destroy russia from the inside, because from the outside to destroy the state that has the strongest world nuclear potential is impossible, therefore, it is precisely the stake that is being placed on the destruction of russia from the inside and, most importantly, how they went about this destruction from the inside. they took the path of not using the liberals today, who by and large do not have any weight against the background of a special military operation to raise patriotic feelings, and they rely today on patriotic-minded people and

prolonging the conflict, the uncertainty of the action will lead to namely that the patriots, as in february of the seventeenth year, they can, as they say , rise against the existing government, and this cannot be allowed. although it is precisely with regard to nato itself that it is necessary to take a look at their military strategies, what they expect from us softening some no, they clearly spell out until 2030 and for the first time what in what in the us national security strategy what in strategy 2.000 to 2030 nato for the first time registered the republic of belarus , where it is clearly defined that they are concerned about human rights in our country, which are allegedly violated, and the second, that belarus is one of the countries that interferes with the entire world order in europe that is what they have prepared for us. it's clearly visible, no one will talk to us. here to mind. even such words come. you know , in the background, a bent gingerbread, when they were said by one well-known, uh, ukrainian

politician, who said promise them anything you want, and we will hang them later. therefore , nato politicians must be treated very, very carefully about their time remarks. uh, we saw really different moods about zelensky’s visit from one the sides are spectacular, and such a tour, uh, and macrons scholz met with charles iii, but here's what news week writes, for example, this is one of the authoritative publications of a tour of europe that showed zelensky's despair and the author of this article brandon call claims that zelensky is falling into in despair is the realization that the meeting with european politicians does not give any result. that is , what the ukrainians might have counted on, who should have been represented by zelensky, that is, there is such a place. we have a very illustrative example with all this european and e tour. this is actually, madam, tikhonovskaya who when this movement with european trips began. here her electorate was joyfully

clapping their hands, and now we will live. now they will help us all with something. and so on. here is zelinsky, because plus or minus repeats exactly the same path of tikhonovskaya, this immediately causes a wow effect in the audience. here is the tikhanovskaya zelensky and the european audience, which is watching, observing the principles of democracy, the joy of victory over uh, russia and russians and so on, and then after some time, the electorate of tikhanovskaya zelensky immediately has an idea. well, it’s good that we’ve traveled and what, no matter how farther what it affects on anything, then the europeans already have exactly the same thoughts , well, they came again, but first she. and now, when we are talking about zelensky, zelensky has arrived again and that he is again asking for money, and what's next? that is, this is an internal irritation. it seems to me, but hmm, on the one hand, our opponents. they are trying to cause absolutely agree irritation inside us inside the union state, but at the same time some steps of the collective west it seems to me that it still causes much more

irritation to its audience in europe because, well, zelensky and here the topic of ukraine is fed up, and readers of the daily mail are absolutely criticizing it artificially again in the top. let's listen. now why is he even here this is not a british conflict. we must not interfere in this. we're giving british taxes to a telecomic hate-monger. why? of course, the establishment will help him. already made the decision to escalate permanently. instead of, to find a way out. please note that i will not die on the front lines of such a european one, and, unfortunately, politics is such an open convention, and then it all goes over and it is immediately fashionable for its electorate to maintain the political field, well, the status and power, uh, praise zelensky and talk about that we should stand up for ukraine in the conflict with russia after some time, more and more fashionable, but in e for the population there are other theses. zelensky is not needed. i need

to help ukraine why are we doing this. for what we spend a lot of money and the same people. you have some time that they shouted that let's help zelensky. they will shout with exactly the same zeal that everything is enough, we spent too much money. why does he come, because it's just such a european, political situation. well, here is the most important thing to add. we even see on the faces of european politicians. not zelensky that in reality they are all at an impasse. they don't know how to get out of it. they can only do. this show he can come there several times for a day several times there to make a show program, but in reality it does not solve. the main problem is theirs. they wanted to destroy through ukraine , as it was correctly said, somewhere within a year or two, and lead russia to protests, and the collapse of the russian economy, even after russia would be conditional on them. and naturally, they

could not achieve this further to deal with china. yes, russia was able to mobilize, huh? ma- could unite and the integration association, including the union state, yes, the military rock band is stationed with us, and they are already forced to play this theater of the absurd to the end, but they don’t really know how to get out of it. they will continue to focus only on escalation, because as soon as they stop the whole world. and most importantly, global investors. here they will sit for coffee and laugh at them very much, because they lost, but everyone else started. and what should zelensky do, and in any case , he will rise sometime, regardless of how the conflict ends on ukraine, uh, somehow sits down to the words of truly ukrainian uh, hmm representatives, here, in particular, the minister of foreign affairs kuleba, who, he says, on february 23-24, the anniversary of the beginning of his life is expected to quote great events that russia

will remember. well, uh, on the one hand, you can't say that they're not preparing something, you can't treat it with some kind of humor and say, nothing will happen. it is clear that e zelensky , his entire team is pr people. this means that they will prepare some kind of action of the first action, a provocation, where it will shoot on the territory, and russian federation on the border. it’s impossible to say for sure that it was fired there, but for us, for our population, for our power structures of government agencies. we must definitely be ready for any provocations and know how to respond to it, and most importantly, before that, we must collect all the information about any provocation. it just doesn't happen. yes, there are always, uh, information trails, so it’s clear that now the west needs to make some kind of strong blow to russia , information political , foreign policy, economic financial. well, whether this alone will succeed, everything depends

primarily on how we predict them ourselves, the most dangerous thing here. this is not the first time we have discussed this. in general , it’s even a shame that listen, 8 years ago , the norman four met in minsk and discussed it. there was a chance we even saw some movements, and there were escalations, but then merkel and poroshenko were told that all this was a front. and look now, kuleba is talking about february 23-24. although a couple of weeks ago he says that there is from zelensky some kind of peace plan of ten points in the plan, that is, there is no smell of peace negotiations, a crisis of confidence. and here, by the way, i remember. ah, a statement, not a statement of the word silvia berlusconi by the experiments of the minister of italy, who just throws zelensky in the face, and the next one was enough for him to stop attacking the two autonomous republics of donbass and this would not have happened, therefore i evaluate the behavior of this gentleman says berlusconi about zelensky

very, very negative and real. lately, we see that zelensky is again and again makes a statement that it was he who put an end to the minsk agreements. although i remind you that he came to power, promising his voters that he would stop the bloodshed from becoming a war. that's how it is in this world, and hope for some kind of negotiations, when no one else can be trusted. forces to watch how the conflict in ukraine will end after that , rebuild the world, that is, forget about the fact that diplomacy should work. here, how do you see it? well, in my opinion. here, too , ukraine cannot be underestimated on the one hand, but on she still needs to be looked at. not well, as a subject, as an object of politics, therefore, not everything depends on one ukraine from one zelensky for one simple reason, that we are talking now on february 24-23, if you need a picture, but you need a picture why first, to show that the money that invests today, the west, they will be

worked out, what to expect on this day, and then ukraine, uh, first of all from the leadership. yes , ukraine, well, here the spectrum is very wide. yes , starting from what we witnessed and terrorist attack against daria, we saw that the mail was poisoned by northern streams. by the way, yes, explosions of the northern streams, the destruction of the crimean bridge. e attack on the air base in sevastopol that is, the same airfields in diagelovo in engels, that is, the spectrum is very, very wide, especially since the supplied weapons, well, they are actually the most modern ones that are delivered today by the west, they allow somewhere in depth 300 to 300 km to influence this were. we must how to behave in this situation in this situations. you know best to answer. you were in the same situation. you will remember on new year's eve, when they also promised to celebrate this situation best of all

, general surovikin answered this situation with a massive missile strike , which, in principle, distracted not only ukraine but the entire west, that's how it is necessary here, that is, in this situation military solution to this problem. it had conditionally all defense attack, of course, of course, therefore, in my opinion, we were witnesses of new year's events. they have demonstrated their willingness and russia's determination to defend itself in these conditions, but to find numbers. and vladimir putin has a big conference planned. yes , respectively. here is what kiev is trying to do now - it is preparing the ground in order to divert media attention. and the whole world from putin’s statement, because here it seems to me, but the whole world will rather remember what they say and what putin will announce. but kiev is already trying, and distracting from this topic by making stuffing about something will happen, there and at the conference, he will supposedly make some decisions. but this is the general methodology. arrestovich, talk a lot and make some predictions. you see something, maybe

it will come true and say that you are lucky, but from the point of view. what to do? and hmm when, unfortunately, there are fewer and fewer politicians like i take horseback. and how are the russians there? uh, someone from the west spoke, and the russians have one unpleasant thing. such a trait they do what they say, yes, this is approximately how it is perceived by putin lukashenko , there are fewer such leaders, and more and more political ones, well, i’ll say rude balabols and conventurers who they say one thing do. in fact, no one has any idea at all, respectively, in the near future. it seems that all lomatya e international will go further into the non-public plane. i think i answer your question. on how to get out of the crisis of confidence, i am sure that this path will be long, uh, and not at all easy. here, the minister of affairs of russia , lavrov, said that he had no idea at all how we would generally reach normal relations

after, uh, what has been done and how much has been destroyed, but nevertheless, if we talk about the conditions in order to return to normal relations, it seems to me that several conditions must be met, first to gain one's strength , strength, both economic and military and ideological. here i would like to recall the minister of foreign affairs of the soviet union, our countryman gromyk andrey andreevich, who was called mister. no, of course he was not mr. and to me, he just knew how to negotiate, to be able to say compromises. he rigidly and adamantly put his interests not on his own, but on the interesting countries that he represented and this led to the fact that the ussr was respected, including that its interests were not considered kozyrevism, it was the surrender of emotional interests. yes, to be patted on the back, namely, to be able to defend yourself, including, uh, there by diplomatic military and other means, and secondly, uh. i think a reset of international

institutions will be necessary. he does not work in other institutions that we see today, where he is in all these processes, no one hears at all, but alexander is also a challenge to our inner such integrity, and mobilization in the military sense, but in the documentary cognitive sense absolutely right. now i would just like to move on to the fact that you have implemented this step in your organization. for a long time we have been thinking about how white russia, when there is a base, can be turned into a political party. and now they have found this way out, when the organization remains a union of yours and the party. that's how it is construction, here. it is written off in the context that we are discussing today. ah. well, i'm literally i’ll say for a few seconds that i wanted to support your thesis that we should be strong not only in military and political terms, which i spoke about above, but also in ideological terms , there should not be these flirtations, partners are friends and so on, and yes, deceive yourself. we must clearly understand that we have we have our country. there is our national interest and civilizational

identity of the eastern european 116 and it must be protected, as far as, uh, parties and public associations are concerned. surely they saw one of the parcels. our country needs instruments of unity and the party. can and should be one of those tools. after all, what is a party? this is a unity built on ideology on a specific program and division. here is a certain body of values ​​and meanings. this is a necessary condition for membership in the party , followed by the corresponding activity of the country in political terms, in the ideological such a public worldview, whether in terms of and such kind of tasks the party can solve, it is very important to choose the right spiritual worldview foundations. imi become the system of meanings that today we can call it the ideology of the belarusian statehood, which is largely reflected in the constitution in

the messages that we introduced the updated constitution at last year's referendum. uh, we don’t have much time left, but uh, here, trying to collect the main, let’s say , thoughts that were voiced today during this conversation, and we understand perfectly well that now, apart from a direct military confrontation. there are much more serious and someone calls a hybrid someone is called a proxy. but there is really a struggle of ideas , a struggle for brains. that's quite recently. and the thought factory in the united states of america in england works like clockwork, uh, think tanks are known the atlantic council, uh, published an article in which well, i won’t name them to our viewers, what if they say, but for specialists. these are well-known people, so look how they will tie you up. what things they write is extremely important for ukraine's friends and allies in the west to punish lukashenka's regimes. we fix the first. so it will help the belarusian, sort

of democratic movement in the battle for the hearts and minds of the belarusian people by exposing that lukashenka's support for the war is the direct cause of the growing instability of economic hardships. that is, they are correcting the training manual now, it starts what you see here now, here is the war at the side of the belarusians. this is where they participate. they say that they participated, which means all our economic difficulties. e about this, that is , they forgot that the sanctions were long before swa and so on. and here i want. here you go first suggest before your answers the president's words, which will be said last week. it seemed to be about prices. in fact, there is not a single meeting now that goes narrowly. only for some one . igor here you are, like stripes of a journalist. don't let me lie. that is, it is always considered in the complex. let's hear the president today the question is more than the goal. this is the basis of a just internal order and peace in our country.

the price of education is the basis of a just world in belarus, this is the main article of the agreement authorities and the people, therefore, we must endure, we must put up, everyone must strive to preserve our country. i categorically declare that we have everything for this. we can't just keep it. and when this cart of the planet ends, we will be an order of magnitude higher than all the facts. today i can't. so i never cheated on you. all my predictions have always been wrong. here is an important question, andrey petrovich, the global carve-up is underway, we hear the president says that we have everything not only to survive in these circumstances, but also to come out with a plus, which the situation demands of us. well, first of all , i would like to say here that really hmm because. we can say that the west is trying in every possible way to turn away from us, but let's call it that, then definitely. we already choose completely vector

indeed. eastern is already visible. well, it's getting stronger in all directions. well, interaction with the russian federation is, as they say. a priori, this is as a constant today. we interact very globally. today, within the framework of the csto. first of all, as a military organization states. we form not only actions there or conduct exercises there with collective forces and interactions within the framework of this organization, but we are also developing very widely in the educational military sphere. these tendencies have been outlined very widely and we are working on a lot in the scientific field. uh, we maintain very serious serious cooperation with the people 's republic of china, primarily with the people's liberation army of china. so i want to say that this is the east vector that has been chosen. i think for us uh before it is most promising for the coming years, perhaps even for the coming decades . it can be said that, as far as we are concerned, we must definitely go into the pluses today, even if we look to the west. you

see, all globalist ideas have faded into the background, everyone has completely begun to engage in the restoration of the military-industrial complex. what is the military industrial complex military-industrial complex in any case, it is an impetus or any economy, that is, in any case, the military component us an impetus for the development of the state in general. as such, in the economic political, it shows how strong this state is, if it has strong power, then, accordingly, it is strong power. it can only show itself in these difficult conditions of the situation and you really need to make strong-willed decisions and bring these strong-willed decisions to the end, uh , our conclusions are what we should be in order to go through this track, you know, here is the president. he speaks clearly, he speaks the idea of ​​justice. yes, and also in lassual propaganda of the first world war. it clearly says what war is. this is a war of ideas against ideas, that is, our idea, it is the strongest . because it is very difficult to break it.

and that's why the president is not pushing the ideas of some kind of free market. let's develop private corporations, let's develop. he says, no, we need to develop in such a way that everyone who comes to the store feels this justice. they are so that coming to the store and could not buy it. that is why general justice is expressed; there will be no justice, internal conflicts. this one earns more, this one earns less, this one earns more. can afford. this should not be, and uh, it should be noted that the president did not only talk about prices and about uneven. the division of income is also injustice, and our task now is to make sure that our opponents are ours. well, let's just call it directly, the enemies did not use any technology, ideological in order to rock our society. uh, showing that you see that there, and a better car than you goes there to do yes, this is unfair in reality, we are at all levels. why? here the president says everyone should protect

e our country, because at all levels in all regions of distant points. ah, those in charge of outreach should go and speak to the public. thanks, you don’t often experience the simplest and at the same time the most difficult. yes, everyone should , uh, do their own thing well, uh, at each specific workplace, and solve those problems that we have in our country, as in any country in the world. they got some problems sore points, just the same, the collective western is trying on us. and he is trying to break us from the inside, relying on some of our internal problems. and it would be extremely stupid in this situation to turn a blind eye to some problems that exist, and closing your eyes will not solve the problem for sure, therefore, if suddenly we have some points of tension in society. and it could be prices. it could be an uneven distribution of income. it might be a question. uh, do not know what to do with

the fugitive return do not return. and these problems need to be quickly resolved, not giving the opportunity to these sometimes strictly financial, strictly economic, strictly social petty problems, starting with a hole in the road, but so that they do not develop into political problems when, because of a hole in the road in some city, they try to bring out the people in this city type against the authorities, although the problem. it's simple in the pit, but there was no timely solution, so the first thing is to see the problem. now it is extremely important to honestly see to recognize them and decide. uh, if we do this quickly and clearly, then, in general, this is western attempts to influence us we will not be afraid. thank you alexandrovich for your findings. i think in order for us to reach a higher level stronger and find ourselves in the post, uh, war era, among the uh, leaders. eh, world, we also need to solve this problem, to part with the illusions and myths that modern public consciousness is full of. after all, many people sincerely believe that, well, everything is in

order in the world. in general, people there in the west, generally everywhere, they are good, they want to be friends , trade there, get married. and we are here we are talking about some wars about the fact that we need to have a strong army, and consider such a formulation of the question as inadequacy, rather, on the contrary , inadequacy to live in this illusion of such a benevolent and kind world that we must enter. well, in addition, there are a lot of other myths and historical myths, and in this sense , the work that is being done in our country , these dialogue platforms that have become a political brand. or a brand of political e culture, and our society , they must continue and in general, this work with consciousness, which, among other things , our association is doing and many, uh, others. e subjects of this process, there is social science. well, for many, it must continue and become even more active and truly effective. to be honest, there is an unplowed field in this e in this plane to work. e need. well, thank you very much. thank you for being part of our

program. but we continue the program in a couple of minutes, the well-known russian political scientist and public figure sergey kruginyan is in touch. so stay with us. we continue, the events that are taking place require not only careful recording, but first of all it is important to see the deep meanings. the reason is an investigative connection, but for this you must agree, we need not just experts, real thinkers , and we are glad that we have the opportunity to communicate with one of them today sergey kurginyan sergey ivanovich hello, thank you for finding uh time for us. thank you for inviting. ah, with the submission of individual representatives of the ukrainian country , the topic of the korean scenario for ukraine appeared, here's how you treat the probability perfectly. it won't work. let's divide along the dnieper that is, this will be the thirty-eighth parallel ukraine let's divide under it what korea

is divided korea divided into ukraine for the sake of god at least someone yes for god's sake what's the problem? one that this will never be understand? why is it never out of the question? boris nikolaevich yeltsin please forgive me, he sometimes had very vivid tirades. yes such he was once asked provocatively so. but tell me, please , is it possible for a jew to become the head of the russian state? that

it won't accept the policy. he's so shot. yes, there is no ukrainian politics inside, we will not accept this again. and the second will not accept it. the west does not need it. nobody needs it, eternal war. well, the problem lies in this once who gorbachev told me already somewhere in his fund that while you were still some petty research fellows. i went there to meet with twenty-two very influential people, in my opinion, he said to paris, i didn’t say mikhail sergeevich europe is dead and will be dead until the russian cauldron boils. here the russian cauldron boiled, who needs to stop it, macbeth's witches sit and say, and i'll blow. into the sieve. thank you for that, the cauldron is boiling. yes, and they only accurately check the temperature. they need boiled, which is cooked on a slow fire.

yes, it is not necessary so once and for all. yes, we are here in conditions where we will not do anything unilaterally. they will impose a war, it must be won. they talk russian cauldron in order to achieve a result, and we must achieve a result from this warm-up b. just don't talk like that all the time. it is not known that at first it is satanism, and then that we, together with the americans, won the cold war. well, don't do this, i beg you. well , they can't look at you. you guys in official positions are looking at you and smiling predatoryly. hmm my all sympathies are not on the side of those who under smiles. why do you give such a reason so impossible. this i say, not to you of course, but to those who bend it all. yes, the names there are so familiar, something from the soviet era. yes , that's the point here. that we

can only do one thing, but we can? to create and use the potential and new life from the energy of the russian boiler, which no one stop. slowly, calmly, not without some kind of dramatization, you need to extract and extract this energy of new life. we need to prepare for even much more troubles, we need to do everything possible, and thank god that this is so that this is not discharged by any nuclear war. nobody needs her. this means that the temperature in the boiler jumped sharply, yes, right away, but you need to change your life. this is the worst thing they are afraid of, they need to seriously calmly change their lives, leaving all the best that they managed to turn out. well, you did something damn it, and it's best to combine it not directly with

some kind of restoration structures, but with rethought modules of the past , the rethought nobility so sunni will be defeated. then they will start negotiations. well, i don't know, like the cold war model or anything. uh, the general on general issues will always hate, plot intrigues all the time , set fire to something somewhere along the borders, but right now they will not go over to a nuclear war if they go over to any. they have nothing to do magically, or a cosmic replacement. there are nuclear, so to speak, devices with some kind of rods from outer space. yes , so that the effect was just as destructive, but without infection. so it seems to me that there are madmen who want a nuclear war, but there are not many of them. so we need to move there. we will not change this constant and do not listen to what

someone in ukraine is talking about, no one will share anything. nobody will share anything. it will be completely different to strike more, as if tangibly, using more separate sick weapons and trying to create. revenge. here are the new details around. uh, northern streams, an investigation by an american family journalist. hersh, convincingly proves that the americans staged a terrorist attack, the norwegians helped, but can this information affect anything at all , given that, for example, the western press, it defiantly ignores this sensational material or even tries to turn hershe into a traitor, or even a madman . oh, can i say, there is one thing, a really very talented journalist. i know a journalist investigator. yes, he stands there 10 well -trained spies. yes, he is a nimble guy

and can sniff out everything, but in one percent of 100 cases. this is such a talent. yes, the eccentric is always such a slightly kooked such a sniffer. yes, this is a very important figure. on hersh. it is not quite this, but in all other cases. i want this to be remembered as plums. these plums are journalists with experience, authority and a corresponding reputation, to whom information is given, and they draw up, and this has always been the twentieth century. and not only, then the question lies in who leaked it all to hersh. who leaked it to him, but who leaked it, he wants something, yes, but what he wants is what he eats. the most important intrigue in this field, so the question here is that of course everyone will be hushed up and everyone will be

indignant, but this hersh, this is not an osanzh. he is not a suicide, he is from the elite, he is a respectable person. if he realized that it would be a strong b-bom for him , he wouldn’t do it, you know, in some way. uh , so it’s like one of the leaders of the pravda newspaper in the soviet era told me that we not a magazine of rural life, we do not have directives , we have the management of the pdds. we have to guess what to print? and that there is no pnd board , so hersh is controlled by the trend. he understands where it is possible, where it is impossible, he feels ingenious, where it is a justified risk. for which there will be e gingerbread and there will not be a very strong fight . and it's not easier, so he coldly

calculated. he talked everything over with modest, and people with grayish faces. yes. uh, like, i think, not only from the cia, but from somewhere cooler. there is a department more abruptly. so i realized that you can. yes, i received the material, checked it and confirmed it. having issued it literary for this they give pultzer prizes, but for nothing else you understand, and for another bullet the vlog does not lie down. even when the president, because when a journalist, even more so. and here is an important point, because there is still one operation under the direct supervision of biden's national security adviser, sully , was not conceived and developed even before the start of the special operation in ukraine, and outrage is understandable russia but will the germans calmly swallow the fact that, in fact, the main goal of undermining is to deprive europe of cheap gas to bring down industrial power, first of all germany germany

is absolutely not sovereign. absolutely well, i don’t know, i always said something, there, that i talked when the soviet period, when i was in charge of the center for strategic research, the representative of the ministers of the ussr yes, it was there that he talked with such john rose , he said that if only germany will begin to connect with russia on the wreckage of the soviet union yes, then it will be a nuclear war in europe yes, but i can say a lot more about the head of one of the large ones, well , such an orientation is more understandable to us, sympathizing with the german parties, he spoke to me right in the building of the moat parliament. so what about german. so what, i can build socialism in germany in 2 weeks. in 2 weeks i 'll take a few steps, and there will be socialism. and what then, then what are you? you understand that then it’s just military repressions, that’s where it all ends, so he says instead of doing business,

yes, and we’ll be building a new system in germany discuss the details of contracts, between hmm employers said to me with a dull look, then looked and said what you did, what you did. emphasize that this is a large figure rather large. so, it's just there that it's all tightly grasped. maybe i don’t fully know how exactly i was captured, but you understand tightly, tightly. there is no germany germany is not sovereign europe is not sovereign, and in this sense, all our attempts to find something, for example, ultra-right, yes, well, at least some rude things if we failed enter europe let's at least with someone we will grind something. it is an attempt at fit, not woefully unfit means.

do you understand? well, no, there's nothing guys. it won’t help, put on some kind of conditional alain case or some kind of this very thing. pen was stained there or someone else did fraternal unity. i do not know that the right of russia on the right of europe is a bluff of the left and a wild trash now all over the world they are destroyed. uh, as if they were turned into some kind of perverted slime and you won’t understand what else. well, people are watching if there is nothing in the center. and why not go to the right from here and before lunch? yes, but it makes no sense, there is external control. and uh, they have some variations. what bidens and obamas or trumps they have there, it doesn’t matter. there inside there is a core and cast.

the core of the elite, which will govern in a simple way, we change the means of achieving power while maintaining the goal of maintaining the strengthening of power, the whole cold face of such a decrepit, but hmm, debilitating master of the world, which he, of course, grows decrepit and loves to talk about, he demeans, but he remains owners. yes, everyone says, look, look, he has pigment spots on his hands. yes, there are spots on the hands, and you see the claws, but the claws are still the same look, this is an old tiger, he has such yellow teeth, they are yellow, but if he squeezes, it will be bad on your throat, get ready for strength. look for sources of strength in yourself, in your history, in your people, in my experience, i say seriously, thank you for participating in the program. thank you thank you always with you this was a fragment of a conversation with the leader of the essence of time movement, political scientist sergei kurginyan. well, today she is all thank you for

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