port and life, if i speak, i do it is aspiration. i think, but this is again, probably, still so old school from those times, when it is necessary, then it is necessary, but now it is necessary, well, it must wait. i didn’t have such a thing that i had to wait, i had to give up, we take it and make happiness. happiness, probably when? all your loved ones. all those around you live in love consent when it seems to me, and myself. comfortable, because the more e people who surround you, who live on the positive. e, of course, is reflected in yourself even then. this is what happiness is.

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i would like to wish our viewers to get comfortable, the excellent composition of experts in this issue. i welcome our guests. thank you for taking the time, and in the second part of the program, russian public figure sergey kurginyan is known to be in touch. so what awaits you and me, security is the number one question today, full of meaningful conversations . , belarus this year's chairmanship in organization, but i would like to start with this fragment. we look, if someone thinks that there is a conflict between ukraine and russia, this is

not our conflict, that we will sit quietly somewhere, nothing like this will happen. the time will come, it is literally not far away. here it is tomorrow, when this time will require to be determined to take a certain position. i am not saying that it is to the detriment of national interests and so on, but with all our allied shortcomings. we will have to clearly define our policy and our line in order to act. i propose i guess, probably, your experience was pushed to this together, together it is always easier such a frank and honest message to our partners in the accident. what do you think, did everyone hear? first, i'll tell you about what, from my point of view, the head of our state was leaving when he sent this message. i think that it came not so much from an appeal to

solidarity to some moral feelings. how much he spoke the simple truth that it is impossible to ensure security alone in the modern world, if we draw a historical analogy, then the thirties of xx century, uh, in some ways reminiscent of the current situation, and the ussr urged by all means to create a unified security system in europe if it were created, then the wehrmacht general staff would hardly have decided on such an adventure, because he understood that the united forces of europe of the soviet union much more, but preferred to sit out in their national apartments. somewhere they played their games, they got what they got, and today we have a situation similar to the need to unite in order to meet those challenges, and you are close to the third world war to the beginning of the third world war in order to find challenges to give an adequate response, what else do i want to say about this, our partners in the csd need to understand, uh,

a simple thing, that the goals of the omegalective west are not small countries in the post-soviet space, their the real targets are russia and china as major geopolitical competitors, and they hit these targets using such a favorite method of anglo-saxon geopolitics creating a one-way loop. well, that is, along the perimeter, creating a hostile environment and suffocating in this hostile environment, unleashing conflicts at the borders. uh, they set up military bases there, provoking chaos, which will inevitably spill over into uh, the territory of russia, and there will be chaos, including among the partners in the csd, who will limit with russia in this sense , i want to emphasize my point again, and security. not for someone not for someone else's uncle. this is for yourself, for your people, and only together. we'll be able to provide it. alexei well, it's really involved. now we will see that last year was such a test of independence

first in kazakhstan, then they killed the armenians, they saw the azerbaijani conflict, where it is very difficult, of course, for us the situation is on the one hand. armenia is a member of the dcb. on the other hand, azerbaijan is such a traditional one for us, a big partner. here it was very important not to aggravate the presence of dkb. that is understandable, do not resolve the situation. there the task is different, but from the point of view of hearing this message that was voiced in minsk on monday. as you see it, you know, we still need to understand that in reality tkb is union of sovereign states. and those who are fighting against us are large corporations, industrial banking corporations and they have an a plan for the next 15 years. this is the destruction of sovereign states. uh dive them uh, in a state of chaos. e. the complete destruction of any constitutional system of any government agencies of law enforcement agencies, uh, and. and the immersion of the population, just such a very

, uh, severe socio-economic crisis. and when the president says that, uh, this challenge will come tomorrow, the challenge is precisely connected with the confrontation between sovereign states with all those corporations, if we do not resist, and we alone will definitely not be able to resist their huge, and their asset e money supply, but together we can resist and save our world, and most importantly, keep the world order. eh, completely different. not the one that a large corporation is trying to impose now. i will suggest to the national elites of these countries those who own large capitals, because the russians roughly showed that these young capitals, no matter how big they were, they were not the same. players in the big arena im fast everyone has their place, respectively, to save your capital when you go beyond your national jurisdiction, if you are not sovereign, it is extremely difficult, perhaps this is also

a call to the fact that times have really changed now igor what do you think, but let's do it with our opponents and even i would name enemies. here is. in general, what our country has a little less hmm is unity. despite the fact that, of course, there in the west they also swear about how many weapons to supply e to ukraine e, as someone sees the fighting in from the point of view of national interests, but there is some kind of only thing there, if there is such unity on our part, even if we consider the csto. well, let's just say that there are certain questions about this unity, and this is not the first time we have. uh, hmm, not the first time. the president says that we must all be united in the csto, and this is not the first time. even, probably, in this studio we are discussing to whom it was a message, and whether they will hear it, and so on, maybe. that time is coming, perhaps alexander grigorievich is talking about this when there is reason to revise the list of participants in the collective security treaty, maybe include someone new

, but there are many who want to, because there are countries that understand that it is impossible to cope with the western threat alone, but maybe some countries wish. uh, to leave this union, because from the point of view of the military, yes, and political economic it is very important to feel that your partner will be with you in any situation about leaving. yes, we are now in the chairmanship, knowing the style and spirit of e belarus and in in particular alexander lukashenko what is called not on my shift here i agree, but a matter of public discussion. perhaps already so long enough overdue. here is the csto, as an organization, what can be done, well, not declarative, but really working . what decisions should be made so that this organization still gains political and military weight? even more to the level to which it was planned, and andrey petrovich , his military point of view, a military expert yes , we heard, after all, another very important settlement, despite the fact that the contexts are now

the most unfavorable and one could refer to him and say that well, let's put aside for better times the solution of some tasks that can be tolerated, but belarus, having become the chairman and the president, said about this and i will quote, but the most difficult tasks have become, for example, here i am. hmm, i'll repeat the president's words. we took the risk during our presidency to try to solve these problems that we have, and the caucasus of central asia is where we have problems. let's try to resolve them and unite the organization as much as possible. hmm hard task but is it feasible at all now, this year , or are we only just the main thing to start this path there, it will follow further. you understand, this is most likely there, the very main message that the president wanted to say , in theory, as if everyone understands that yes, if we are all together, we are much stronger, but in practice everyone tries to pull the blanket anyway on ourselves, firstly, if we are talking about the dkb, it is quite such, well, an organization that is geographically very

strong, well, it is located in almost everything eurasian region. so, accordingly, what worries countries, for example, central asia, worries to a lesser extent, well, for example, belarus well, and vice versa, what is happening today is great. this is understanding and talking about the fact that you won’t have to serve time. here you need, the main thing is to understand at what stage you won’t have to serve time, because each of the republics of the members of the road accident perfectly understands what it means to support a special military operation today. it's immediately fall under the ax for the west's collective immediately harsh sanctions, which, moreover , cover all spectrums of the absolutely vital activity of the state, both external and internal, and, accordingly, whether any state is ready for this. and most importantly, we need to understand, really. do we really need those states that are really directly involved in this or that degree in this armed conflict. i mean the republic of belarus the russian federation do we need it we

talk a lot about hybrid warfare. that is, the basis of today's actions is largely indirect actions are required, respectively, we are limited in obtaining some modern technologies. we are limited in obtaining some resources that we do not have, perhaps we have the opportunity to receive these resources through these countries. maybe this is not a direct military assignment. maybe it will be just dual-use or civilian use. there we will figure out how good luck to attach it. maybe it really is. this is the exit exactly there, which allows us to get around, including males. well and as for the actual use in terms of military force, well, by and large, the military didn’t need a lot of political will in order to unite us. well, as the events in january showed, in january of last year, we will need a little time for this, about one to three days, enough for us to organize this organization and our main forces. first of all, the collective forces brought into action and

efficiency. i think you've seen all hello. that is why it is clear to speak about the fact that we really need to unite today and oppose the collective west, or we still need to find other inputs and approaches in order to influence the process on this west, indeed, the president’s message was really made not just the right one, but he was still later and argued by these all in his own words. it is connected , we really need to decide who at what stage will really enter, let's move on then there was another guest in minsk whose, uh, visit to the belarusian capital caused a serious annoyance in the west. of course, i mean the head of the hungarian foreign ministry, peter, not only did he dare to call the european parliament one of the most corrupt organizations in the world the day before his arrival in minsk. so here in minsk, with a belarusian colleague , he says that sanctions - it is wrong

to discuss peaceful tracks in ukraine. they took and agreed on a cooperation program for the whole 23 year. and what is the main thing you see in the arrival of the hungarian minister, they tried to find some symbols all over the place. yes, designations are symbols. uh, moreover, the head of the foreign ministry, tak, indicated that his visit would unequivocally provoke sharp criticism from outside. ah, eurostrange, anglo-saxon, like a glomerate. but the question is, what did he continue to pursue, we pursue exclusively our national interests, if it’s profitable for us, and it’s profitable, well, hungarian, but to be friends with belarus, first of all, in the economy in production. well, we will do this and we, in principle, do not care about your irritation. and that's just such an independent. uh, stance independent and annoying they don't uh subject to brussels. they obey

could and said a number of countries a number of ministers. ah! and what is the question? but the head of the ministry of foreign affairs he is also the head of the external economic department, that is, the main task, including the solution of economic issues, is the question. and hungary, without supporting the sanctions policy, and the european union actually receives these resources at better prices, can cooperate with belarus, russia, and other countries of the eurasian space and thereby solve its national economic problems. they have inflation is lower, and neighboring countries also work for production. naturally, they look. the most important thing is that the simple population is a simple worker who looks and says, and then what happens , our politicians have betrayed us, and these national politicians have been chosen. uh, his people and observes it is his interests. they are the interests of america and some corporations.