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international logistics, which is one of the largest in the inner mongolia region, will build warehouses in the park, introduce a wide range of services in the field of logistics. in addition, trucking of goods along the route china and europe will be organized partial deployment of a regional group of troops - one of the factors of protection against threats to the entire union state, such a statement was made by the secretary of the security council of belarus during a meeting with cadets of the military academy alexander volfovich after graduation from a military educational institution , lieutenants will have to become not only exemplary commanders and military professionals, but also skillful teachers and educators, it was decided to spend with cadets of all power military educational institutions. uh, meeting exactly with the cadets of the release to tell them. eh, the bloody situation that is developing today, let's say in the world around the republic of belarus, is a complex military-political situation within the country, of course, and ideologists. the commanders bring
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this information to them, but i think the court after all , to hear the leadership of other officials, it is important and interesting, eh, to listen to what questions they ask, what they breathe? how do they live today? in what mood will they come to the armed forces tomorrow strengthening the protection of the state border identifying the blocking and liquidation of armed formations, as well as the fight against sabotage by reconnaissance groups in the border service bodies, a planned exercise continues their goal is to check the readiness of units for practical actions according to the plan of the exercises, a complex dynamic situation has been created, which will allow you to work out the coherence of actions as much as possible. the maneuvers of the border guards will take place within two weeks. today marks the 120th anniversary of the birth of one of the founders of the belarusian school of physics. anton nikiforovich sevchenko, the scientific works of the scientist relate to spectroscopy or miniscence of organic and inorganic substances. quantum electronics. sevchenko,
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laid the scientific foundation. natural science at bsu contributed to the opening of the research institute of applied physical problems, as well as institute of physics and mathematics of the academy of sciences at the modern physics department. bsu 20 years ago opened a nominal auditorium of a scientist before that. e even universities physical faculty, well , he was preparing a teacher. yes, but now to train specialists for production for science. in fact, with him, as they say, a memorial plaque to mikhailandberg was opened in minsk, the ceremony took place on the birthday of the maestro, the memorial plaque was placed on the house in which the people's artist lived on zakharova street , an exclusive order in bronze. perform l people's artist of belarus and vladimir zlobodchikov mikhail finger, passed away on december 11, 2021 at the age of 75 since 1987 , he headed the national academic
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concert orchestra of belarus and then you will kindle it when you communicate with people, you have to catch who you are talking to. and to speak with them in a language that is understandable and accessible to them, these movements are similar to the work of a jeweler. jewelers make beauty. and we save lives all in the interests of their state patients. why do patients travel? well, this is a brand brand of belarus - this is quality knowledge, understanding and arguments, as well as questions that lie on the surface in the author's project markov nothing personal. don't miss the new releases on the channel belarus 24. the sun is creeping through the uranish forest, so
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breathless. at least not otgrysti, and this court that the trunk is great. nil elevich hello, on the air, the program sas is authorized to announce i am the host nadezhda sas greetings, i remind you. this is a program for those who want to better understand what is happening in the world and understand how these processes of events will affect people's lives. everyone and the life of the country. president of belarus and russia alexander lukashenko and vladimir putin held talks at the novo-ogarev residence near moscow. the heads of state
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discussed issues of further development of belarusian-russian relations, as well as integration cooperation within the framework of the union state. 28 have already been completed by 80%, we are deepening. what are we doing in order to, well, somehow overcome the barriers that are artificially created for us. i do not speak deliberately about food. we have provided security to sell without saying that people should be dressed. we did it. uh, in all directions, so we will have something to say to the people of belarus to russia in the highest state, and the turnover of goods is growing. it reached a record level over the past year of more than 43 billion dollars in dollar terms. and most importantly , and what
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makes me very happy. cooperation is primarily an industrial operation. hungarian foreign minister peter szijjarta made an unexpected visit to minsk to discuss according to him, a peaceful solution to the conflict in ukraine, the official budapest of all eu countries takes the most constructive position, consistently refusing to transfer weapons to ukraine and insisting on the priority of diplomacy following the results of negotiations from yarta, with the leadership of the ministry of foreign affairs signed a program of cooperation between the foreign ministries of belarus and hungary for 2023. a meeting was held in minsk president of the republic of belarus alexander lukashenko with representatives of foreign and belarusian media arrived to meet foreign journalists from austria azerbaijan great britain qatar russia in saudi arabia usa france japan the head of state answered the most pressing questions regarding
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the conflict in ukraine and the position of the parties to the war and peace of belarus' reaction to the developing situation, and also made a resonant proposal to the channels, we in minsk are ready to accept him and have a serious talk if he wants peace in ukraine and even putin will fly up in minsk see you. here, the three of us are two aggressors and a peace-loving president. why not for the sake of ending the war. now, if he wants to end the war in poland, the courts are nearby. i will send a plane. if there are warriors, and here in your presence, the three of us. i guarantee you that vladimir vladimirovich putin will come here, the three of us will sit down and solve the whole problem, all problems have been solved here in latinovich. i can convince putin of something, and your bytan.
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in the near future we will see around the world it was announced that the president of belarus invited him to belarus in brussels passed another meeting of defense ministers of the western coalition, providing military support to the zelensky regime, the head of the pentagon catches austin promised to provide kiev with everything necessary for a large-scale offensive this spring. at the same time, some promises to provide combat aircraft. what the ukrainian government insists on was not mentioned. in the united states , ball hysteria continues to develop over the week , three more unidentified flying objects were shot down over north america. this time. the pentagon did not blame china, there was even a version that we are talking about extraterrestrial aircraft, however, soon, refuted by the white house, the us junior partners romania and
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ukraine, in order to keep up with the sovereign, also announced the appearance of unidentified balloons in the airspace. well, in the information war, the one who tells the truth always loses, he is limited by the truth, a liar, he can carry anything, said the american writer, fontaist robert sheckley today we will talk about information wars and their impact on journalism, society and international relations and understand this very interesting topic. a political scientist will help me. vadim borovik. and vladimir konstantinovich mamontov, general director of radio, says, moscow, director of the smart internet foundation, by tradition, we begin our program with blitz millet. and, of course, in your opinion. is there a place for objectivity in the era of post- truth and the predominance of social networks? you know, there is a place, nevertheless
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, definitely. eat. just. uh, this place needs to be conquered. it just needs to be recaptured today, and e. on you, uh, all sorts of punishments can fall, but in general you have to be for the truth, if you already got down to business in journalism, the real one still exists, how can we not eradicate it from life, but it is immediately remembered a brilliant quote from the movie what is the strength of brother strength in truth this is probably, and the main main challenge for my colleagues, information front. today should not fall solely on the creation of fake propaganda manipulations, let's give your answer, i 'm not a supporter of idealism, but nevertheless, in general, build a national or international policy on lies and fakes. it's always vulnerability, because sooner or later it will be exposed and trust is given, therefore, therefore, it must be based on. true, national interests should be the basis, but
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it is completely naivety that we are telling the truth and revealing all the cards. this, of course, can't. after all, instead of in modern reality, well, the basis should be the truth. you are the guru of journalism. it seems to me a person who thoroughly understands this incredible interesting area. and in the sphere of mediacracy, in your opinion, the emergence of social networks has perverted journalism, because there are opinions that today every blogger is already a journalist. each leader of public opinions is already a journalist and objectivity has faded into the background , exclusively subjective whips. and also, if supported by a rude word of publication. here they really capture the masses. well, you know, let's start with the fact that the world has changed very much and the media environment itself. it has also changed in that journalism, when we say good quality journalism. we can imagine anything. i'm like this
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you know, in the form of dusty newspapers, some binders or something else, people, come to your senses, keep in mind this will never and will never happen again. e. the most objective journalism true journalism the new journalism will look sometimes. it's like blogging, sometimes not. in short, we may not recognize it. in fact. she is definitely making her way. she definitely. uh, it cannot be said that this is some kind of perversion in the great matrix, which was there once we were there or the masters, as they put it. yes, or there are all sorts of guru, as laid down now. listen when we did our projects. being very young journalists, elderly journalists told us how we perverted everything. and now the time has come. and now we are called takeaway, which means people, which means that they did it, they did it. and hmm, here we started with the truth, and here, in fact
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, it should continue. this is the most important thing, and what has become more difficult is that everyone can express their piece of truth. here is the mosaic. this is a new one. not everyone understood it. it is necessary to work with this. this is perfect new reality, which is now such journalism. that's all, the old one will not. well, now i would like to draw attention to the definition, information warfare is targeted actions to achieve political, economic, military or other goals of a strategic level and is carried out by the method of dissemination of specially selected and prepared information that, in a necessary way, affects the civilian population of the authorities and the armed forces opposing parties about the information iron curtain modernity. more details in our story.
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on february 27, at the beginning of russia’s military special operation in ukraine, the european union announced its intention to ban the broadcasting of russian media on its territory , it took only 2 days to discuss such a global issue, and already on march 2 it was officially announced that the broadcast and distribution of russian media content sputnik and arti on the territory of europe from now rt to uk germany france and spain a. also, the satellite on the territory of all countries of the union lost access to its european audience. and this several tens of millions of people in brussels commented on their decision rather ambiguously european politicians. they covered themselves with such concepts as democracy and freedom of speech, and the russian ban itself. the media is the defense of these principles, by doing this we are not attacking freedom of speech, but protecting freedom of speech, but i have a feeling today that we are not doing enough. we need to go. first you need to understand how these. they were organized to determine the actors of the sources of dissemination the european union in this matter
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should act more ambitiously, strengthening its stability. however, with such a position of the european authorities. do not agree. even local journalists, in their opinion, the very decision to ban russian broadcasting. the media looks pretty controversial because. it violates human rights. generally. not to mention the right to freedom of speech and to receive information, and in the end it looks not like protecting the european union, but like an attempt to suppress any freedom of thought in the country , the problem is that this decision was made and implemented by governments, but in principle , european legislation does not entitle governments to prohibit the media, including propaganda in liberal democracies , the right to allow broadcasting or exchange it is exercised by independent bodies, independents and regulators. such comments in the european union are not paid attention to; the course has not been changed, therefore, over time, pressure on russia has increased and in may last year, moscow was forced to pass a law on the project of mirror response worlds. now the local
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prosecutor's office. may deprive foreign journalists with the police, and their journalists will also be prohibited from distributing accreditation information materials of these publications or broadcasters in russia, while, according to the editor-in-chief of the media group, russia today and the rt tv channel and margarita simonyan , not a single employee will be laid off in any country. and despite all the bans, the russian media will continue their work. even contrary to the wishes of brussels, we bypassed and will bypass as we do. i will not say as long as the interests of our motherland require such work at taz. we will do this and the belarusian media turned out to be objectionable, the tv channel belarus 24 was disconnected from the satellite broadcasting in the countries of the european union and the pacific region. although even before the ban, the coverage area of ​​the belarusian international tv channel.
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broadcasting covered 174 countries belarus 24 banned and in ukraine such a decision was made by the national council of the country, the minister of information of belarus vladimir pervtsov noted that when something objectionable is immediately closed, journalists are subjected to repression the media are closed, but this is not the first fact and not the last, how they really are, when it is unprofitable for them, they simply deal with the unfit objectionable the media, how do they close the accounts of politicians, how do they uh? well, let's say they introduce into digital, who those who are not pleasing to them, but we all watched it. this is another one. uh, fact, this is another proof that there is no liberal high-standard democratic politics there. well, the media expert denis zheki denis joins our broadcast i thought you heard the content of our story together with us. how do you generally feel about such braids to the media no matter what
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it is motivated. the main thing is that today, in an extremely nervous and emotional time for all participants in world processes , this information iron is being built. well, i think, good afternoon, i think that when the information hmm actually war ends, or rather, let's say, information contact between the warring parties, then it begins. ah, the hot war. that is, there is no other way. that is , when people are still able to speak, they are no less inclined to grab weapons. probably the most important thing is that when the european union is there , these european officials say that we are defending some kind of freedom of speech there. yes, no freedom of speech. you are not defending, you are translating , and this is very clearly visible to others. and
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actually a question. you translate, you burn the conflict even more. you drive him even more into, let's say, such a confrontational phase, and what does this lead to? only to one to the loss of life to the destruction of houses to and to further. generally. uh, an increase in hmm actually the area of ​​war denis a. tell me there is an opinion that in the current conditions, success in the information war requires the maximum brightness of the speed of the rigidity of the response. and now, many people even say that the zelensky regime is allegedly allowed to regularly outplay russia in this field, precisely because they are thinking not about long-term reputation, but about momentary hype. here you personally agree that in such conditions serious world players. the same as the same russian federation, china, which, in the information
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support of foreign policy, is aimed at avoiding scandal, is doomed to look like faded against the background of such as the current ukraine, you understand the whole question who does it affect if we are dealing? let's say with professional consumers, but we are talking. in general, here, uh, a consumer society. it came to us, then, of course, a bright wrapper will act on them. there's something else, that means some sensational things, but it's all. hmm, as it were, a system of manipulation, firstly, information wars. they precede the hot phase of the war and accompany the war and then continue, therefore it is absolutely wrong that the information war ends with the beginning of the hot phase. no, it accompanies and enhances the second. here you are talking about brightness. yes , our russian partners had enough brightness and enough. we have a lot of bright ones. uh, let's say people on television. well, this cannot
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be denied, and the resonance does not come out very well sometimes and they go too far, and especially on the eve. from the fourteenth year they went so far that i was already sure that no one in kiev would ever meet with flowers. it was a mistake. worked incorrectly with belarus incorrectly worked from ukraine this is my opinion. so. here is ah. well, i don't mean that all the many worked correctly, and thank god today, within the framework of the union state, it works very correctly. and today we show how it was necessary to work until there was no such military operation, second. i want to finish. what is the problem is not in the brightness, the problem is in the control of information platforms. that's the problem. you must see the root of the problem. uh, they closed it there or they closed russia today or they closed russian channels there is youtube but you accustomed the user to youtube without breaking their stream. you transferred a user from yandex to google. there they are engaged not only in the consumption of information, but also in business, and today they are closing, which provide information about
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the russian pessimism, and reduce views. well, again kana which e broadcast a different point of view artificially inflate the view turns into recommendations in this way manipulates consumption. you see, agree that, again, such closures of the same rush today are a manifestation of the weakness of western society, because it was a professional platform that did a professional job. yes, you know , i disagree with my colleague when he says that we did everything wrong. we so on. well, everything, not everything, okay, look , by and large, what we wanted, including russia and belarus, i think, in fact, we wanted to live together and peacefully. we wanted a huge wonderful economic political human continent from lisbon to vladivostok, that's what we offered them. here's where to start. that's why you they built arteries in order to pinch them, and so on and so on. margarita simonyan is generally an excellent journalist.
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and the fact that she is now engaged in the information war - she could not have dealt with it, she would be brilliant, she would have been engaged in the information world with information friendship and so on, so we wanted a completely different crook, like a barrel, the barrel was the smallest, if you are from all of this crooks, yes. big crooks never wanted this, in general, it turns out that in the fourteenth year minsk agreements in order to mean to pessimize not in order to pessimize me today, as almost myself google yes no, in order to win in advance in the world's huge world battle , to advance and transform ukraine, which we somehow wanted, not at all. believe me, not a single person in belarus or in russia wanted this. that's how to fight this tragedy the president said, vladimir putin is a tragedy, in fact. eh, no one wanted this tragedy. so if we from the start it's somehow different with figs
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in your pocket with all sorts of lies . that's the nonsense of this current one, which unfortunately. now we have enough everywhere, at least they are right. we would have started to work in a different way, i will explain, we worked. wait, wait, then, wait, look, if we if then we didn't do it this way from the very beginning. you know, what would i do with my conscience, what would i do with my concept of life about the truth about everything else. you know, this is also capital, which is, of course, this oil is expensive and so on. and this is the feeling of being right. which today they help in this difficult in a difficult story in a tragedy, only the feeling of being right helps the russians endure what is happening. this is a special operation, when they pushed and brought together in the battle those who were not needed by and large , including the europeans, only
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possibly the americans. yes, and even then, some kind of hour yes, two really beautiful peoples of peaceful peaceful slavic great happiness that, for many reasons that can still be conveyed, make belarus so they didn’t drag yours into a conflict with russia, which was like this here, between other, that means well, it's a fact. all this so -called multi-vector collapsed, like a man of trials and glory. god is absolutely dear to absolutely means, thank you for recognizing the magnificence did not recognize anything. it was real. no, let's not get nervous, you understand? first of all, when you and i are talking, a normal joke does not make it easy to be in one room. we wanted it right
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about what we wanted, we will now share with you. let's get what we wanted right absolutely agree with the premise. this is what i wanted to say. i wanted to confirm putin's words who confirmed from lisbon far east was an employee. and you are talking about the resort not as a prosecutor, but as a lawyer for your opinion. well, then it goes well, but methods, and trade wars include trade wars. before every new year. she is the deputy prime minister, who could not understand for the reception, we did not know the price of gas. this is the correct behavior within the framework of a union state , a shame. when you come to us there with your calculators. you show centripetal forces within the framework of the union state, or you have disgraced yourself. that's thank god that today it is good that we are showing you. an example how to. how to trade how to stand back to back during a military conflict, how to support each other in the foreign policy arena, and it was a normal position for any partner to be interested in a strong ally. and if you could
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get 18 billion dollars in the west, that's good, we could buy more of your products. you can pronounce better products, so there is no need to carry nonsense and it will be good if the union state has trading partners in all parts of the world, and today we we overpay you with an intermediary. today. we are forced to have discounts of 30-40% for oil products and gas. today we are forced to lose billions of dollars. today the russian budget is losing because of illiterate policy. and, firstly, any strong state, by demonstrating strength, is not forced to get involved in a war. the beginning of the war. this is already a defeat. this must be understood, so let's take a cold shower, stop throwing hats. listen to smart and wise people, of course, and i'm not talking about myself. i'm talking about those who do not come with a calculator all the time in order to to show that he is the greatest the strongest. here partners are always equal. yes , there are such friends, and such lawyers, then enemies are not needed and defend themselves. i want it myself. by the way, to any of your loud,
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clearly stated questions, yes or contact and whatever you want or laminations and anything, i can absolutely calmly answer you. if in our conversation between the two countries you do not understand why are we motivating ours? difficult relationships, why they were difficult, and we will not understand yours. you see, we came to understanding. they are nowhere. we didn’t come with you, we won’t come to an understanding, because bawlers who are looking for momentary profit on any platform. they shout it out quickly. as loudly as possible, without understanding and without going into the fact that in fact the problems were much more complicated, and they don’t need to talk about it so completely, unlike some. i heard
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alexander grigorievich lukashenko, frankly and with great pain, your president and not the last person for us. in general, it is very, very close to us, and you know something this gorlopanism and this misunderstanding of russian realities. i didn’t notice something from him why it’s where it comes from, you have suddenness and it’s deep there. there is a deep understanding there. why came with calculators. yes, because it is oil and money, by the way, therefore, from a calculator, and what else to come with, did belarus sit at these negotiations with a calculator without a calculator? for example, i have always taken it calmly and positively. and why shouldn't we talk about each other talking about our mutual peace there were times it was another matter that correct behavior peaceful times provoke war, you know? i'm telling you about the mistakes that the scientists have cited, we feel you have begun to see us stupid morphological
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accusation of having many children to say or is it useless. why? no, you said absolutely everything. it’s usually in peacetime that you need to sit as an isculator in peacetime, well, you need to keep in mind that how the forces that are enemies of us and belarus look at it, we have our own showdowns here. in general, every one of them, which means pride. yes, meanwhile other people much more, naturally, they use it and so on. here is this thing. we must also remember. one point the very designation of the problem is not the enemy's position. you must understand this if you will constantly. today again and we are on this battlefield. turn off
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the prosecutor, dear. turn off. turn it off. well, i'll turn it on, please, let's hear the opinion on the topic of our today's program president of the republic of belarus alexander this is the authority you need to understand that people who follow the news. not always in able to separate truth from lies when they are a real participant in the events. and you get a huge amount of information in the form of lies and fakes, it’s really difficult to separate the truth from the lies in the west, politics, in principle, have long been turned into a staged movie show, people have been accustomed to this format of presenting information, therefore, however, sometimes it’s not interesting. here, in fact, denis, a heated
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discussion, very wise words were heard from the mouth of the president of the republic of belarus. now, if in today's conditions the meaning is in the struggle for truth, if it was replaced by narratives, implying that everyone has their own truth and the one with whom it looks more convincing is stronger, even if it comes down to manipulations and simplifications, when there is already a war, then it goes, uh, directly propaganda here, when propaganda and propaganda is aimed exclusively at supporters, and it is not aimed at people who are on the other side, those people who are declared on the other side, as a rule, are not people, as a rule. i don't always speak as a point-of-view. uh, means already military propaganda, as a rule, people there who they die on the other side. they blew themselves up there, they shoot themselves. we see it very well, therefore, in
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this regard, it’s understandable, and therefore, i would very uh, would suggest uh in further discussion, firstly, listen to the presenter. uh, because in fact, it is the presenter who should lead. eh, and not immediately try to yell at someone right away, but from the point of view of what you need to defend your truth. i think that, well, they are not only lagging behind their own truth, because, well, now they have seen that a person has his own truth. here he is to defend others does not allow to speak. well, you need to understand, what is the truth of the other and really. here is what a colleague said very well. don't include the prosecutor. thank you come here money. i want you to react. i want to say that there is no need to be nervous again. this is a manipulator. yes please, what is raising your voice - this is one way to manipulate the discussion. i 'm talking to you about techniques correctly. and this is what you need to understand. i'm not talking about the fact that russia took the wrong position in terms of approach and is absolutely correct
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there was an approach, because the control of eurasia, the union, eurasia, the union of german german capital, asian capital and russian capital was generally the most powerful country, but the most powerful economic trade region, but they deceived us into our, so to speak, open arms and ability to cooperate. they told us lies. well, the question is different. we, having, for example, a union state, often demonstrated non-negotiability, without creating a centripetal force within this entity, somewhere we, working with ukraine, i i think they went too far on the eve of the same events with the rhetoric that was carried out by the joy of the population and somewhere they escalated the situation by creating forces that were not, let's say, not friendly to us inside the country. they were created from the russian special services, they worked and created the third sector and everything else was there, but not a few there. i mean, information channels. even we in belarus have formed such an opinion that they overdo it a little bit. today we must
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understand you, here are all sorts of vulnerabilities that today the collective smell controls the main information platforms are that they absolutely unreasonably limit the broadcasting of our channels, they should do some work, even including correcting mistakes and working more efficiently in order to defeat my common goal. our victory, and not my goal , somehow offend my russian friends partner. well, what are we talking about the information war, the war of the 21st century right now with the guests in the studio, there is an opportunity to hear exclusive comments from alexander malkevich, russian journalist, tv presenter ceo channel, st
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. channels. and now that is exactly what is happening. do you have the feeling that strong patriotic journalism is coming to replace goat propaganda, having shown its ineffectiveness against the propaganda machine from the west and ukraine. what does russia benefit from in the end? you know, of course, uh, they often say that if there weren’t a special military operation, it would have to be invented, because a number of processes launched are useful for our country, for our culture and, of course, for our media so yes patriotic journalism. she was always just uh, she wasn't trendy. unfortunately, now the trends have changed, but as for
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the reaction to the publications of bloggers. um, in general, this is standard practice in our country. mm. the so-called incident management and the ability to respond to it. uh, so here i would take one heap would not interfere with us, really, the authorities are learning to respond quickly to those risks to those threats that, uh, come from the network. and patriotic journalism is still a little different, but, but the demand for it is the demand for uh, too, front-line poetry. well, in general, she would call it is real such yes high-level high-class citizen journalism. she is really in demand and very cool. what hmm her time has come, what are you you see the secret of the success
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of mr. zelensky’s propaganda machine, why the majority of ukrainians have not been able to take a more balanced objective look at the causes of the war and at its course of ukrainian propaganda for a year. this is my favorite question. and he is enough. well, the answer will be voluminous. so , firstly, hmm, a talented performer, well , let's express this, maybe it's for here they are popular things, but it's true and podoliak and arrestovich. uh, these are people who know how to work. uh with the media know how to work on camera card 95 uh, all their resources were redirected to the creation of m-many sketches of various performances of the show there, that is, everything for the front. everything for the victory, yes, in this case , they have it all in a fairly high-quality plus. uh, there's a certain freedom from creativity,
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so strong speakers creative ideas script finds are true. this is the second time. hmm, the most severe cleansing, something that we have repeatedly talked about, but we had this passage yard, and still so to speak. here is more or less somehow adjusted situations. uh, so, well, imagine, here 's one side. you have a cleared information field. there is only one opinion, one endless this total telethon on all channels. uh oh, so to speak, we won e and talented speakers, bright, speakers are good screenwriters. eh, it's all there. well, here it is. uh, in this totality, the totality of such an offensive. well, the key to some success in terms of zombies. yes, because, well, normal.
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a citizen of ukraine turns on, so to speak, e switches channels and how they are known joke. i'm just switching to you now, just everywhere the same thing and completely e in such a super concentrated form. hmm, nonsense is heard. e about the fact that yes, these are the grandmother of the bank of cucumbers shot down the drone, the grandfather of the friends shot the plane, but in such large quantities. eh, well, it's already working. you know, no matter how difficult a thing is to dispute, it means, well, if they tell you about it because of every crack, well, it happens when you involuntarily think, maybe this is the way it really is, therefore they are the components of success such, and we, in addition to the truth, would also learn how to present this truth in an interesting
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way, brightly tasty with a sense of humor, with, uh, irony, self-irony. eh, it didn't always work. that is on our side. true, this is our main weapon, but hmm, this is a disagreement of opinions and not a very good one, because strictly speaking, uh, there were facts that coulters were introduced, including into a patriotic environment, and through this they also rocked the situation or tried shake it, therefore, they fought with us according to the high canons of the information war, professionally prepared people. and we often did. it is not that the handicraftsman is now amateur performance. yes, uh, the initiative of bloggers of the patriots is there, uh, military correspondents, eh. well , we still lack, let's say, a rigid
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system, but we, of course, learn from our mistakes. i just wish it was faster. thank you very much, let's continue our conversation. many say these propagandists. and such and such tv channels need to be closed and these ones should be reined in. there is a line between a propagandist and a warrior of the information front. she, in my opinion, lies here, where a person is now, here he is, he is here, if he is a war correspondent, then here he is at war now and he tries to write the truth uh, to penetrate where each other does not penetrate uh to reveal such uh, such genuine springs and the mechanisms of war there, which no one except him, and it is no coincidence that our president vladimir vladimirovich putin had a moment when he listened to listened to all his superiors. there, then, subordinates and so on. who's there? he has a military part, and then he says,
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let's go, guys, war correspondents, they will come to me, and i will talk to them and listen to them. but tell me, please, can a journalist be a patriot, because patriotism is first and foremost. oh, and you as about a citizen, yes, the need for this patriot. it's such an outstanding category b that it's in you. and it doesn’t turn off other positive professional human qualities, but again, look patriot that i don’t see that we have a lot of shortcomings, but at the same time, but at the same time, i’m a patriot and at the same time this is the main thing - it’s such such a story. this is a farvator. yes, that's it , it's okay to be a professional and a patriot. this is right.
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now it broke out in the west, when from the lips of a journalist who has a very respected power award, information appeared about how the nord stream 2 was blown up . west, my country is bad or good failures are not right. and that's exactly what this is about. that is, he was jammed for being suddenly became not a patriot. although in my opinion. this is just an indicator of patriotism - this is the condemnation of illegal or legal illegal actions of your state. this is a good wish for him. it seems to me vadim how do you think we will be objective, and at home we want from our fellow citizens. eh, more support for national interests, and often, sometimes, we try to gloss over some issues and highlight some more vivid ones. this is true, but the question is why what media to trust those that are able to carry
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responsibility for said, because the publication is registered, there is a chief editor, there are corresponding e, journalists, there is the ministry of information, and in case it is proven that they disseminate this or that false information , they will be directly responsible when a person is somewhere behind abroad. it is already dependent, perhaps on foreign intelligence services, perhaps simply economically depending on one or another oligarch, respond to media platforms such as youtube, but does not close it motive his information his information may be worn. uh, not even just uh, his personal judgment. yes, but it may be imposed. uh, a third-party judgment, this must be understood, therefore, those media outlets that are forced to work with national interests cause more confidence. first of all, national interests. no need to be afraid. what do you mean where? listen? once again , the truth cannot be discussed. if you are ready to tell the truth today, sometimes to the population about some economies. you will line up in the exchangers of people still on the account to tell the truth, uh, prices will rise and
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so on, so you need to speak the truth in such a way that it is true, a is beneficial. in the country and the same people, but the policy should be based on the truth, the policy should be based on national interests. you understand about this. this must be understood. that is, it is basically true, that is, it is basically that the president, a, is working to ultimately raise the standard of living, but already work with information. it must be first and foremost, effective and limiting. that's exactly about it. yes, now i want to talk to you in more detail, the main tool of information warfare is visual influence and manipulation, and the most terrible thing. there are no outright lies in modern wars. the main task of state departments for information security is to prevent its spread, and in modern wars, the transition from the geopolitics of policy buttons to work with images and meanings has intensified, and through the mass media, society forms positive or negative
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attitudes to the foreign and domestic policy of the state, the image of ideas and propaganda. moral values, in other words, create a positive or negative brand of the country, and now i want to draw your attention to a fragment of the films, which very well shows how public opinion is manipulated. now there is an information war going on , each of you was given news, each of which is a potential bomb. wait, incredibly got the news from the last topic, we'll change it. let's watch. so, the city, volzhsk, an accident at a thermal power plant, one person died two blocks without electricity, well, just lucky about the chic news. well what's the relation news from a small town has a political agenda. look, i’m explaining on my fingers two blocks without electricity, one person died, we call the local administration, what does it answer us there? they don't just thrash. well, in order not to take responsibility, we take. this is
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lowing, we go to any civil activist. what kind of relationship does any civil activist have with any local administration, well, about like a cat and a dog absolutely right, and therefore this civil activist with great pleasure from a ninety-nine percent guarantee he will tell you that in general this administration has everything bad, both roads and schools. and in general, it’s strange how this city of volga is still worth the governor, it’s going to come down like this on c grades, we go to our friend engineer and ask him , mr. engineer, but do you know anything. about the accident at the volzhskaya tpp well, of course , he does not know anything, and we have information , mr. engineer, that this accident could have occurred due to some kind of breakdown, and the gearbox has broken down. here we have a question. can the gearbox cause an accident, of course, it can, says the engineer, and we well-known mister engineer that these gearboxes are swedish-made. and, perhaps now, under
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the conditions of sanctions in russia, when any deliveries are prohibited, you can find these swedish gearboxes somewhere. well, in general , they answered for him. we go further, call the relevant ministry and ask questions. how do you feel about the problem of supplying swedish gearboxes under sanctions , given the problem, the official usually hangs up, well done, but we inquisitive guys go even further and call the minister himself with the question of how quickly import substitution will replace these wind gears. they just stop responding to the chic ending. but in the final we go to any more or less well-known human rights. what is the answer to us? what do you like, what do you want from the minister president putin president putin
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what do we have as a result, the headline is a catastrophe putin's volga minister turned a blind eye to the death of a man, volzhsky as soon as we explain that the culprit of all the bad news is the authorities, this becomes an emotional background. well, here it is. it seems to me that the moment of creating things that capture it becomes easier for the masses to manipulate society, especially when there are such skillful guys, media experts. denis i don’t want you , after all, a rude phrase, how to counter
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this, information hygiene is important. first, do not litter yourself with too much excessive consumption of information. this is harmful, like overeating oversleeping in moderation, the second is to choose those sources, the average, of which were confirmed by specific events over a long period of time, and vice versa, cut off the sources. uh, if you've seen what's new or what's new the information channel received stuffing, so often we see that tomorrow where they will start bombing or tomorrow. uh. so, they told the russians, you urgently leave the country on such and such a date, the second wave will begin, the third wave of mobilization, or there, these sources will soon close the borders. you've been told this eight or nine times already. why are you taking down this channel? by the way, not so long ago, i was in the european parliament, i came to the enemy site, arranged such a discussion, many more were looking for a long time, so you know what they told me,
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a? the meps, with a balanced, balanced point of view, say, nadia, we read the russian media because this is the only way to collect information from various sources. what are you talking about, you can put together your own picture. and that's when a person understands that he makes a decision. vladimir i think that, first of all, you're right, these are, uh, normal people. they, uh, instinctively or from their experience, they will make their way through some kind of, well , balanced factory knowledge. similar to the truth, if only because everything that we have seen now in this film, you know, it is necessary this girl who listens to him from this is a journalist. this is which to her this editor-in-chief of god knows in which department? yes, it is clear, or rather, in what? yes he, firstly say, listen ask him a simple question. how much do you get paid for this,
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so that you build such concept schemes? why are you spending them great here. what kind of fright are you out of putin such a terrible enemy it happened a long time ago, what happened to you and these are the questions that these young girls could ask and my boys, who work well, by the way, the diagram shown is absolutely normal . yes, these are the questions. uh, throwing them there. we are also concerned with information hygiene, we are just at the forefront of the fight against this european swamp, which has long turned into the sky, which is the only thing we can do. hmm. maybe, i don’t know this old woman, already quite weak europe can be pulled out of this flame in time. from this swamp. yes , drag it somewhere. e in the moscow region to a sanatorium so that she comes to her senses a little. well, this is them, so, here it is to emphasize again, and an athlete will never take, for example, the height of a jump, if he has not psychologically
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imagined that one of the ways is mani. shares of the peoples - this is to convince the people of their own failure. all of you are incapable of anything, you need people from the third rome who will come and teach you, so to speak , to manage these complex mechanisms, so it is very important to preserve your own strength. you know what else i would like to discuss with you. so we understand that, probably, the first president of the virtual era is vladimir here is zelensky, and the virtual mediacracy is more detailed. i’ll tell you right now, because at the end of june, the representative of the british computer graphics studios tale smith garden susie over cost and others came to kiev to make a 3d hologram for the president of ukraine and now in the form of this hologram. zelenskiy addressed european leaders at the event. fandrisch forum landon, 2022 and it looked extremely realistic, broadcasting
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the address of president zelensky using a 3d avatar hologram strived to demonstrate innovations that changed the world the creators of this avatar said and then zelensky's holographic capsule visited, in addition to london, and stockholm and paris a. so, are we really close to the fact that even the presidents of certain states can also be holograms. and what this or that person really thinks does not matter anymore. created in his likeness a 3d picture, the text is written down by press secretaries. and even better, western press services and in the future, again, people perceive this as a reality. although it's completely gone, it's a true story. well me it seems that all this is described in pelevin's generation pe, in my opinion, it's great, and even there someone was not counted. someone there without a head said, in my opinion, very figuratively
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beautiful. to that, it was all nothing pelevin, at least, everything was already described before zelensky was digitized, and then another thing, that like zelensky it’s not a number, and after all, i am a representative of the channel in which they closed and how would they be there , no matter what special effects do, we, without any special effects on our channels, simply spoke the truth, and we and i continue to remain patriot of ukraine e. and so i support. now he came out with the support of another ukraine , a social movement is being formed. eh why? because i think in itself , uh, let's say if a country went the wrong way, it definitely went the wrong way. we see that people are dying, we see the suffering of people, and before that the country was poor. and this is the whole thing, as it were, there is no need to be frightened by technological things. why because they
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did the same thing they did. any let's say so at the beginning of the 20th century, any. eh, well, how in a totalitarian state there is no way to pay for electricity to turn on the tv. she simply won’t see such a hologram of zelensky, so let’s call a spade a spade. we are at the end of the program. we are in the final, please, 30 seconds for each guest to say our strength is that there is no need for a hologram behind us there is a genuine russian belarusian ukrainian, if you don’t want the need to defend your self-identification , you want a beautiful word. here it is , your soul is better. and that's why it's so much better yes, love soul soul uh, love is better than tolerance, soul soul is better self-identification - that's absolutely right. and that's it. and that's what we stand for. now it is hard for us not to understand us, sometimes sincere
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sometimes against us. uh, they invent all kinds of schemes and holograms, and so on, our cause is right, victory will be ours. thank you. well, we first need to understand that any instagram holograms and stuff is a tool. you can carry out the most difficult operation as a seeker. you can slit a baby's throat, so it's a tool, so we have to answer it. yes? and here already absolutely others are marked. first, understanding, uh, what ours is like here my colleague, he says, is a just cause , realizing our national interests, relying. ah. to support our people. we must demonstrate ability. the first is to soberly assess the enemy, use his most effective methods and create an alternative platform, if there is youtube where the stream should be, yandex occupied 90% of the market. today, already 10, it should occupy 100% of the market in russia and so on, that is create their own competitive mechanisms.
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and we have in our intellect. and our need, our peoples are able to compete effectively , no one should ever convince us that we are not able to win, we will win each other, the truth is ours. thank you very much to all the participants in today's discussion. she was in really very bright. well, what conclusions can be drawn today? yes, no conclusions draw your own ability to independently receive, analyze and comprehend information. better defense against lies and manipulation in the era information wars and i would like to end with a quote from victor pelevin's generation pic novel about which one of our guests recalled, and hydrom is immortal, only words change. thank you. well, now the authorized person in the information war, it is important to remain on the side of the truth.
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the wind rose takes out diplomacy for a worthy response in belarus, the concept of national security will be updated, comment by the secretary of state of the security council. on the eve of february 23 and the 105th anniversary of the formation of the armed forces.

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