[000:00:00;00] of course, it was emotionally difficult for both hmm those who were forced to remember these horrors, and memories that have already tried somewhere, and not remember, and all these nightmares, but hmm we remembered and, of course, grateful to all those who um, regardless of age. e for your condition. oh, what these memories could evoke. well, some not just emotional outbursts, some consequences, people told and asked for one thing, but tell them there so that they never do that again, they talk about the twentieth twenties. and once again with these memories wanted to emphasize hmm

will not. no loyalty, we are second -class people for them, we are slaves for them, so we must keep our country and do not. so we wanted to remind with this project what civilized europe brings, we wanted to tell the audience with this project. how does the so-called civilization end, yes, which they tried to bring to our e lands, and we wanted to remind this civilized europe how these manuals and plans of theirs then end for them. well thank you for questions the program answered screenwriter candidate of historical sciences to a colleague. golubeva results of the analysis of the main events of this week in the information and analytical program at & g main broadcast. all projects of our tv channel are available on the belarus 24.by website, as well as in social networks. i'm sorry to you. all

the best. program postscriptum today as a guest of our studio igor geydzh member of the council of the republic of the national assembly of belarus ilya begun, a political analyst, would like to talk today with those who probably occupy the minds and front pages and lines of all the media in belarus and european, including, and the big news was the closure of the bobrovniki checkpoint in poland, and the poles explained this for reasons of national security. and yesterday it became known that the last checkpoint for freight transport is being closed already today. what consequences of such decisions of poland can we feel on ourselves? my opinion is that there is clearly disrespect for the polish leadership, primarily for its

citizens. we even know. today i rode in minsk and we know that 60-60 km / h is at this checkpoint, not only belarusian cars. yes, there are not only belarusian cars, there are cars of the european union, of course, an economic component . this is the movement of logistics, which was nevertheless carried out between poland and a. under our ally state through belarus, then, of course, these logistics. uh, let's say the chains, they will crumble a little. and that's the problem. we know that in general, and people have already appeared such hooks that you need to go around the lithuanian border in order to get there, for example, bialystok in particular, if i come from grodno and live there, i know these problems of people, of course, and belarusians, too, are ambivalent about this. in any case, 200 km, an extra detour, through the transshipment. this is also a burden for people. i would like to pay attention. you know what we are responding to. here's the key thing and people need to understand. after all, we

are taking retaliatory measures, how painful it was, but for the poles we never threatened any relationship again. and we always say we don't pretend not to bialystok we do not pretend hated us and so on. we want to live in good faith, but unfortunately, and if we remember the migration crisis, which was, we know who was the first to close it. fods weren't opened anymore, that's why this is the polish elite . in general, she is so inhumane, including, but she leads her own policy, well, not taking into account the opinion of ordinary ordinary people, and i meet on the internet with the opinion of ordinary poles living in bialystok, after all, this is collapsing interaction between people is some kind of economic relationship. and misha is a buyer. uh, in bialystok, by the way, there will be fewer buyers poles on our territory. i 'm affected too, so unfortunately it's such a hmm continuation.

this one we had a bite to do and we continue to do it in such a way as to somehow annoy us belarusians, but at the same time our certain citizens, who, in general, hmm well, i think, at least this game. yes, to some extent , no one asks them, but i have not seen polls and in public opinion. the search is relatively closing or not, but suppressed e , most poles are simple poles, i was convinced of this a few years ago, when not at all the nineteenth eighteenth year is an absolutely friendly nation that wants to live in good neighborliness, come to visit each other and communicate. and in general, to live an ordinary life, without fear of any gestures of a neighbor, even if hmm look a little. uh, a little earlier, that is, the state of emergency on the polish border has not been lifted. there is still a ban presses, there it is, certain to a certain extent. there are power structures. they can do whatever they want. in

general, we also see the relationship of the polish authorities of the polish border guards to refugees. we know that our border guards regularly find people who died on the border, who are dragged and pushed through the animal gates over the polish wall. therefore, these are unfriendly steps. they continue to take place and if you know, and even more so today, in my opinion, the polish foreign ministry said that the possibility of a complete closed closure, so i generally do not rule it out. eh, such movements, because, well, this one is really mroya, and the polish elite is relatively e eastern kresy. it exists back in 2017. maps of the commonwealth appeared on the trains , where western belarus of western ukraine is part of the commonwealth. therefore, these are wet dreams. unfortunately , the polish elite have a place to be, but they do not ask their people. well, naturally. they are trying to infringe on us, they are trying to cause

some kind of rejection among the belarusians, but i would like to draw attention, in my opinion, there is an understanding of this, and most importantly, we are taking reciprocal steps. we never proactive. nothing steps the disease for poland, uh, poland does not deal with this issue at all. here i agree on the issue that this is lobbying of interests in the first place, they are more citizens. competition uh in a way, but i'll explain here more interesting ones if you look at the structure of their exports. the poles have almost a quarter of exports - this is equipment for nuclear installations electronics is still on top. there's about a percent 10 exports. this is a different, rather self-propelled vehicle setup. that is, industrial technology. and who is their main buyer? germany is germany , which they now require, in my opinion, a billion 300 million euros in reparations for the second world war, that is , they are now closing down eliminating unnecessary competitors, creating an artificial situation of an overabundance of production. although our regions accounted for about 5-6% of their

exports, they create the conditions for this overabundance in order to break through the increase in quotas of their products by the european market and even more to tie up germany. and the more critical it is now at the time of perestroika. this is how they shouted the energy transition. true, they do not succeed, and they still renew the old traditional energy. this is a nuclear power plant. this is the coal industry, and the poles are all able to produce all this equipment. they will now tie themselves to contracts and then they will be able to manipulate. the poles have manipulation in their blood. that's just the same, in this case, politics, revanchist sentiments and a certain an attempt from the locality of germany for far -fetched reasons, but pressure on germany in order to take a dominant position in europe. well, they have already stated what they want to do in europe, to create, again, in defiance of

germany, germany had the same statements. well, you are poles, this is all of you, you straightened the speech of the commonwealth, coco's wings rang out. so you can. yes, they have just ukraine - this is their own direction. we are here in this case here is the talk about national security. she can't talk about nationality customs. here, national security can be entered through lithuania, so i will fully support ilya regarding the fact that these are all economic interests compared to 2021. exports to belarus have grown ; in my opinion, they amount to one 1.7 billion euros , according to estimates. polyakov, here he grew up in the twenty-first year, that is, blocking levers, and in general they do not work for the economic component in this case either, that is, if he went through simply logistical paths, when the business itself finds, uh, a way of interaction interactions in this case, and they want, uh, this uh flow, probably, to stop in

this case , too, if they worked , these are : this is the game for a long time they did it. yes, it seems like my opinion is that this is a long time, because i think, given that we also have president biden here and you understand, this is what you need to report to the gentleman who came from the ocean. there the siren was turned on, yes, in order for him to look courageous, that he is not afraid of anything, then in poland he will close the border. just before the bay, it will be calculated that we are here fulfilling all your settings and please be so kind. be kind. there, to a certain extent, you will help us with some questions from this visit. baden flew to poland, this is that the militarization of poland , the deployment of some bases, what to expect here? here, just quite an interesting moment, that he is not on the baser stein of germany, he is not in

france, he just went to poland in this case after kiev, that is, the country on the site, which is now one of the largest customers in the european union of american military products, namely the military-industrial complex. that is, it is necessary to come to honor a large client a little and somewhere. maybe some additional credit polyakov i autonomous policy or revanchist, as i said, here. well, i don't want to repeat this too often, but at the same time, it is not the main unity. european union, the poles want to dominate the european union, they have there is a certain industrial base for this. they suffered, in a way, the least of all, because just the same moment when there was an explosion, uh, the nord stream lines, they surprisingly opened a line from norway at that moment. well, a coincidence a coincidence. yes, why i kind of think here that it’s not even the united states anymore, as some say, but norway and britain

are interested in this issue, as the main exporters of the same gas to the european union, and, by the way, norway exports more, than today's states. now, if you look at the numbers, that's why the poles are pursuing their own policy. they are getting stronger. they found themselves a satellite, but they think that they have a partner in the united states. although in fact. all the same satellites. and they don't need to. i just need the european union only as a cash cow, where they will sell it, this appendage is an appendage of the european appendage and this poland of the commonwealth is the rest of europe, here is the policy of the poles by the way, they don’t need the european union, but they still have their own currency . yes it is gold also related to the european. union is independence. it is they who are trying to be less dependent, including with those ambitions to pursue such a policy. ah, because there are, uh, firstly, i think that the hegemons of the world, yes, who considers himself a gem,

the united states of america, they are not interested in a strong european union. they are interested in a weak european union, and in poland it is just a worm, and in an apple, which well, spoils, uh, the overall outline of the harmony and economic viability of the european union after all, we know who is there is, and hmm locomotive. germany-france economy, spain yes, well, england is no more, so here she is playing the role once churchill said that she is the hyena of europe, she continues to fit in this role. in my opinion, and destroy, uh, the fortress of the european union, in which we can be to some extent and we will not really scold her for this. yes, and they actually use the location and why this is their strategy from the sea to the sea, why it is so important for them to enter the black sea. in this case, they geographically cut off all the land routes between western and eastern europe, in fact, controls the entire transit. that is, this is definitely finance. components. well, plus it's a political

component that you can set conditions, so and so, and this is a very dangerous moment. why are they so active? western part of ukraine why do they have these crazy thoughts to go to odessa , including, because they need full control of the whole process in order to, as i said, that's really it. they are obedient uh, the worm is precisely the devoted person of the united states that captures, in fact, the entire economy of europe biden flew to poland, however, not so long ago our president invited biden to minsk and offered to sit down at the negotiating table m. we will help organize a meeting, but if you are really interested in peace in ukraine, as he thinks, it is probably difficult to come up with a message in the white house at all or whether it is the best political move to come up with. that's in my opinion, because the president suggested, uh, really fly in.

and i know what to do with this idea. and if the president said, then the whole story will definitely do it. uh, talks about it, so it 's a great political move and it really is, and it would be, but uh, in this case, the chair is knocked out from under president biden. he doesn't fly here , most likely he doesn't have it in his plans. well , then already say about the fact that he is such a wonderful person. so he wants peace. well , it's probably not even worth talking about it anymore. but because well, if you are really a person, you want peace and such a level of such offer a step and a real step. and vladimir vladimirovich putin would fly here. i'm sure of it, but in this case the chair is knocked out and i think the masks are off and the people. i think the world community, of course, they may not have spoken very much about this invitation, but i am sure that this information will also pass on to the world community. you just have to understand that well, biden. he's not the person he claims to be. he has long been no longer the person for whom

the force of specific reasons pretends to be, but even here he is, uh, like a politician who will not accept such solution, because in reality it takes , let's say allegorically, a little theatrical language, uh, the dark side. why would a person who did everything possible to start a conflict come to extinguish this conflict, and why would it just be a contradiction to his own plans, so he will never come to any belarus, because for an extremely simple reason he is a party to the conflict . he is interested primarily financially. all this talk about the fact that the united states allocated dozens of billion dollars is already over 100 figure goes. so after all, where are you billions, in my opinion, except for vc. but this is development, certain related infrastructures, including military infrastructure in poland, this is additionally ukraine , that they were given money to buy it themselves? no, they wrote off their old equipment and their own under contracts. no,

this is lobbying. the military-industrial complex of their own , again, they updated their equipment and scrapped the old one. i think that even taking into account how much it costs to dispose of the salty states technology was cheaper, perhaps even, and not just exactly, uh, this issue was resolved in this way. what let's sew it there, it will dispose of it there. there is no need to pay any green tax. all. notice what the gratings said. you don't worry about what i call ammo running out. they can still only be used in the direction to russia, you know, so here. on the reboot of the military-industrial complex and znatovsky, which means, if we take the 21st century in general, then we, well, people need it so that they do not develop impression. i think that our people have no such impression that nato is, in general, such a defensive alliance with more than 200 warriors in the 20-21st century. uh, armed conflicts happened. or rather, let's say with the participation of nato troops, therefore, what kind of peacefulness can be,

and the defensive alliance of the nato bloc, he is generally waging an aggressive war, syria libya yugoslavia, you can continue this list for a very long and long time, therefore , please compare the people where they are moving and what ideas were invited by the nato bloc, he created everything. in general, then counter so soviet union but it continues to expand. he continues not to take into account all the interests that partners in the world, such as russia, china and other countries, naturally have. therefore, this is such a hateful idea. it goes through all these actions that we are now in europe and ukraine and those conflicts that are emerging from the pacific region in the middle east and smoldering, but this is all a sign that, in general, nato has always occupied and occupies an aggressive role and even remember on the eve of the special operation, when russia offered to enter into obligations to each other regarding security and integrity, then in general the west refused and

thus, in general, provoked. uh, russia is a set of actions that are now being carried out in ukraine, given such a rather aggressive policy of active militarization, what to expect next? well, dreams of an escalation of the situation, because it is beneficial for the poles to create a glow in the direction of ukraine ; it is beneficial to create a glow in the direction of the baltic states; threatens that belarus will honestly launch some kind of weapon or something else at them, that is, fairy tales will constantly go on. manipulation mobilization, why, well, such an increase in an asset that can be instantly activated, and in 2022 the polish army was increased by 16,000 people, it is also planned in 2023 about 16 people, in general, until 2030, the strength of the polish army, together with territorial defense, will be 350,000 people . well, that's exactly the minister of defense, blasche about what we want to create

the largest strong army itself is an armored fist, and the polish armed forces do not move in this direction either. they used to have a security strategy. it is written to poland that uh, or rather, they declared that a 2% of gdp e even in nato countries there is such a declaration that it is strange that nato should annually allocate 2% of gdp for military needs. we now already know, and they about it. uh, they say that four percent is huge, and we know that the cost of, uh, defense is not only purchased abrams. contracts for the supply of south korean tanks and self-propelled artillery installations in south korea, they will be defenses with all this, they will naturally defend themselves, but even in the eastern direction, even at the moment when there was a migration crisis in 2021 , three divisions were already deployed, and now it is being announced that two divisions in the kaliningrad direction one in the east direction. well

, for example, we are belarusians. and we have not increased our armed forces for many years. we, as there is a population of 65,000 people, so it remains, that is, we do not even declare. which a threat to national security. poland from the side of the belarusians. duda said that he would like a free border crossing with ukraine in the future from belarus and noted that he had never made any claims against anyone again. how else to regard this statement in view of the current difficult situation. we want an open border, we drive it here, we drive the tanks to the divisions, but at the same time i say that we do not make any claims. well, how is this or stupidity? or is it just an ordinary how to regard it, but even if we talk about nato, returning to the words that you voiced, that there are more than 200 conflicts. but let's see. and how many of these conflicts were on the borders of nato countries. what is this defensive alliance that

always fights across half the world? now poland is the most striking example of 4% of gdp, you said they have less in the states now in the states slightly more than three percent of this practical standard bar. that's all the time later, because they always wage war somewhere. poles this is more than the states this is already a hint to the fact that there is no good neighborliness here, uh, and it’s not close here, the poles will escalate, the poles will do it. and by the way. you probably remember, about how many people there boasted about how many people went abroad there, they shouted that in poland there were tens of thousands of shelters for our fugitives. and now it’s good news for them, so to speak, in quotation marks, that this new document is a travel document of a citizen, which the poles began to issue to our citizens whose passport has expired, that is , so that they can just cross unobstructed borders so that they have a valid document here is one vote. and

all these people who have found asylum will be taught how to say it in polish. so exactly. because why do they need their own, if you can take strangers and under the bchb flag already under the now extremist symbols. here is a provocation to arrange further. here's what will happen next , a continuation of your words. there is also such a fact, the former commander of the ground forces, and he has already stated to poland that it is necessary , but somehow, well, there are also a lot of ukrainians. rather, if a man there who called for age ended up in poland and there is talk that for poland to create an association union. rather, in poland to create and send to ukraine, not only that, in ukraine a law has already been adopted regarding the fact that the consulate, which is located in a-a foreign states , is required to keep military records. therefore, i would not say this to the past, but let people not be mistaken that you will always be welcome . the time will come for you. it’s just, well, in particular, if they predict for ukraine

consider. uh, citizens of military age in ukraine once ukraine still owes. and in the consulate there to register a child who was born or to renew the passport, the passport will be further withdrawn from the register, maybe conditions will be created for people to just go to war, that is, for the last ukrainian, therefore, yes, the methodology is already being prepared in this regard. e people who left for some reason. well, you need to think about how long you left for a short one, most likely, you didn’t play for a long time and all his words, which the president speaks and create conditions in our country regarding. come, come back, and answer according to the law. and if someone is purely illegal, live a peaceful life in your apartment, which you have locked and live there. e. well, let's say so on the terms of bird's rights, therefore, we need to think carefully about those, let's say , the forces that do in the belarusian state regarding their people , the president should also say what we are doing in the legislative, but in the legislative sphere.

but this is actually, but such a strong message, i think people, and those who made a mistake for some reason left, well, we must return, because on that land we will be useful from that side. there are people in poland and there are people in the balkan countries. there are concerns in the baltics. people do not understand how it works and the mechanism of course, they do not understand yet, you understand, even if they are doubtful, well, what source of information they will choose, squirrel, they are unlikely to read. uh, for now, all the same information resources, maybe, looking at the pro-government, too, but they are pumped up with fear, they will be every one. uh, any case that is happening now and will be filed, how the regimes are repressing and so on. that is, the main task of fear, because, firstly, it is financing. each there is 1,000 people. this is a certain conditional million dollars to finance headquarters in poland in lithuania , that is, well, i won’t

worry about exact numbers now, because they still didn’t look at the accounting department, but these are numbers too. rather big and the more of them there, the more funding is allocated, the more of them will return to belarus the more. they themselves will begin to debunk this world, but it turns out. we already have over 300 or almost 400,000 people. with poland, did your latvia go to belarus without a visa, they shoot videos on tiktok that break the whole brain paradigm to be afraid of this without a visa, but because it shows the truth that people come even poles who can see there such as since the video with arrogance comes to this belarusian mcdonald's, they came as a family, with children. we went and bought. well , in the end so well, everything is the same, there plus or minus there yes, yes, such a slight arrogance, but still they were shown that everything is bad. what went to mcdonald's they arrived. all the same. yes, that's, based on, well, for sure. i always like numbers. and so, for example, 2022, when, without visas

, the theater came in 2022, in particular, the grozny regional drama theater is more practical. twice as many people as in 2021, that is, western cities, in general , border cities, we feel very pleased when you walk around grodno on sunday you want to go to a restaurant or cafe. can i wait, so there are poles come to us and, of course, most of them are lithuanians, and according to statistics, in my opinion, 80%. it’s clear, well, the polish government, it creates conditions at its border with an empty queue. and secondly, uh, he will meet every pole, here, uh, special agent who, and so on, is stamped. well, in general, this is a person who, well, at least a little smart and can really analyze the situation, but this is impossible in the first place. well, this is generally nonsense. excuse me. not well, if you understand that belarusians are a person, who, if he sees some kind of egregious violation directly related to espionage, will report this to

the state security committee, then yes, every first employee of the gb thank you very much for a very interesting conversation. i hope our neighbors do. enough wisdom to save this fragile world that we now have thank you their technologies are our comfort and safety today for any specialist who works regardless in which sector he should have the skills of energy efficient technologies saving energy every time you come to work. this is my chess game, because i need to plan and organize the work.

so all this equipment works. they tell complex things in simple terms, but here we have imitation of the sun's rays and the light that simulates the sun heats the panel, uh, converting the energy of the sun into the energy of heating water for the house is at -20 . this is the lowest point of our career. compared to the level of the baltic sea, we will say 20 meters under water and share the intricacies of our work, which simply adore the machine. yes , it seems like a toy breed of the future and