hello, right now on the air, the program sas is authorized to declare i am the host nadezhda sas greetings to you. i remember. this is a program for those who want to better understand what is happening in the world and understand how these processes, events, people will affect the life of each of the life of the country, and the main events of world politics this week. i will tell you right now. u.s. president joe biden made an unexpected visit to kiev the visit to the capital of ukraine by the american leader was not announced anywhere for security reasons while it became.

it is known that the white house, a few hours before biden's arrival in ukraine, notified the russian side of the visit. in order to avoid excesses, analysts associate the trip with the start of the us election race where biden intends to run for a second term, and president of the republic of belarus alexander lukashenko expressed his opinion on the us leader's visit in an interview with xinhua news agency and the china media corporation well, this is a parrot , you know, it has already been that's exactly such a visit. why elections are presidential elections and he wants, uh, joe biden on a warhorse to ride into this election campaign. the head of the office of the commission of the central committee of the communist party of china on international affairs, wang and the recent past, wang, visited moscow and headed the chinese foreign ministry. and now he is acting as a special envoy of chinese president xi, jinping, the press is actively discussing a possible visit.

mr. xi to moscow this spring, such an event will be a demonstration of unequivocal support. china's position of russia in the ukrainian conflict. we will show during our visit to russia wang stressed in every possible way that the efforts of third countries to destroy the russian-chinese partnership are doomed to failure; third countries mean the us eu russia announced the suspension of participation in the strategic offensive arms treaty , the treaty provided for limiting the number of deployed nuclear weapons carriers and deployed nuclear weapons for the united states and russia on them warheads , the document was the last valid international agreement in the field of control over nuclear weapons, in fact, we can say that formed during the years of the cold war war, the system of checks for the two leading nuclear powers ceased to exist, and today's program will begin with poetry.

blessed is he who has dedicated himself and the world in his moments, all the good ones called him fatal, as an interlocutor to the feast he is a spectator of their high spectacles, he was admitted to their council and alive, like not a god, from the cup of their immortality he drank these lines, not only a poet, but for the diplomat fyodor ivanovich tyutchev, for a year now, as the world has been a consolation to all of us, the world is experiencing the most shocking shocks since the end of the cold war, what is the result and what will be vector of changes and what to expect from the new cold war? we will understand this particular program and natalya valerievna eremina, doctor of political sciences, professor of the department of european studies, faculty of international relations, st. petersburg state university, will help me in this. hello and alexey dzhent. the political scientist is with us today. hello aleksey, we are starting our program to ask a question, in your opinion, is there a high risk that the new cold war

will become hot aleksey please what understand by hot war? that is, a nuclear conflict or a collision within the framework of , say, conventional weapons? yes, if , uh, the second option, then in fact this is already happening, and uh, we are standing here, of course, on the threshold of a larger-scale conflict. yes, and i would not want it to be with the use of nuclear weapons, but i will say, so since the caribbean crisis , the risk of such a conflict is absolutely greater than ever with you. agree. natalya valeryevich, i share this conviction that in fact we are already in a state of conflict for a very long time. serious and in fact, in fact, hot spots have always existed, and one of the hallmarks of the cold war is just a hot clash in different parts of the world. therefore, in fact, we see such a reincarnation of the cold war now, but just now the war has come, completely close to us. it is

actually on our doorstep. i will ask my colleagues to withdraw the card. the theater of military operations in the east of ukraine today looks exactly like this. alexey, i know that your trip to the kherson region took place not so long ago. tell in general. what moods prevail in society and how successful the special military operation is at the moment. yes, i was in kherson and zaporozhye regions. and of course the main question that people ask. how long will the war last and whether russia has come forever, because this is the most important thing for people to feel confident in the future and the second impression about what happened there in the ukrainian time, unfortunately, is the decay of society. that is, on the one hand, the state was replaced nationalist groups that, uh, took over power and inflicted a monopoly. ah, it already belonged to them. yes, that is, not

officials. and the second is how they decomposed. well, relatively speaking the soul and consciousness. that is, the mass influence of sects. this is the decomposition. well, our community is some kind of spiritual. this is what i just saw. and of course, when you come there with people, you have to work, that is, russia has already begun this work, but you need to go deeper and more systematic and, of course, tell what will happen next. yes , someone is waiting for the return of ukraine, but the most the main message is what russia has brought and what it gives these people, this needs to be explained . well, i, including myself on the part of an ally of the republic of belarus, this is a matter, but our people are not lost. you just need to practice. natalia valina and please tell me how you assess this year of vision of the special military operation as a whole in terms of how there were different periods and, probably , the potential that russia planned to deploy was not always successful and

lately there have been great successes, but were from the side of a private military company. wagner has some further plans. what are the prospects, in your opinion? the russian federation has very concretely and clearly shown its intention to be in these territories. here at least, at least. this is a very basic point, the most important one, in which we will go further and on which we will rely. but besides the fact that we have clearly stated that we are here in these territories, that we have come here, and we do not intend to leave, because there is a certain strategy for the development of these territories, inclusion in the russian federations, respectively, with all the accompanying fluorine, and so on and so forth , such work has really begun already, but it is very important to really solve the issues of the military plan. here, without a decision on the final military plan, without a clear understanding. here is the format in which ukraine will exist and whether it will exist at all, we will not solve the issue of these territories, because the question should

still be in hostilities . will represent ukraine in in general. and now answering this big question. what is ukraine, we will answer all other questions , including military ones, including those of a socio-political plan, and including economic ones. i want to remind everyone that when these territories were included in the russian empire. they gave a very big impetus to economic development. this is the port area. this is the southern zone. this is a recreation area. any economic zone is a labor zone. that is metallurgy. uh, minerals and so on, so in in this case, this is a very large amount of a useful resource in general, and above all, of course, people. people who are hardened, and terrible trials and in general, the feeling of this big country, which should now come to it. i hope that we all will somehow contribute to this feeling that you belong to a big family in a huge country, and we are all different, but we are all relatives to each other. this is the main

task that we now face, in addition to military operations, but i will repeat once again without answering the question of what will happen to me represent ukraine and whether it will represent anything at all, we will not answer these questions that are being asked. probably every participant in this process , every person who is following the situation that has erupted in the world community. how long will all this go on? here's to your point of view. i want us to try to pass at the beginning of the program. this, of course, is a subjective opinion, but another year 2023 will be a hot year, based on tactical considerations and based on the position of relations, for example, novorossiya. it is clear that this period more spring, based on strategic considerations. we understand that this is a much larger space. these are necessary, and the corridors, including those connected with transdniestria and so on, this situation before the summer season may be the autumn season, because we do not know how

the situation will develop. yes, but there is a socio-political situation that requires much more time, but for work with the population alexey please, are you ready to give your forecast, alexey's forecast? i think the fighting will continue probably a year at least, but the most key question. eh, he sounded in the speech of a colleague, what will ukraine be like and will it really be here now to save ukraine, the people of ending the war? it would be important to have a ukrainian entity. whether he will act from abroad or rely on the underground within ukraine, the fate of ukraine must still be decided, including by the ukrainians themselves, and for this there must be a subject who would say clearly, we want an end to the war. we want peace with our neighbors, this is difficult. here. i while i see some signs of a hint that it is starting to appear, but it has not become a factor

, yes, which influences, among other things, a serious decision, because so far the kiev regime, headed by zelensky, is speaking on behalf of the ukrainian people, which, in fact, made ukrainians zombies and all their meat grinder lets. eh, if this continues. e further, it will continue for a long time until the last ukrainian. we understand this, therefore, in a word, cardinal situations in a political and other sense will come only when nevertheless, a ukrainian entity itself will appear, which will declare that this must be stopped. we have our right to vote and we want to see our country peaceful. well, you see, aleksey, i think you will agree that the year was extremely nervous, and this nervousness turned out to be the citizens of the republic, belarus, because this is hysteria, the desire to raise the degree to the maximum, probably the degree possible on the part of the neighbors of the republic of belarus, extremely

aggressive statements were made from the lips the leaders of poland or the lions and latvia and, by the way, their own the leader of the republic of belarus expressed his anxiety and certain thoughts, therefore, the question of alexander lukashenko let's hear together with the russians to fight the territory of belarus or what, only in one so far, what is better if at least one soldier with a gun comes to our territory from there to kill my people, if they commit aggression against belarus , the answer will be the most cruel ukraine was only the reason for starting this war , the reasons for this, the united states of america and someone in western europe, i mean, your manners with the hands of the poles to chop off western ukraine, but this will already be a fight. well, that's it, and then you won't ask me questions. will we

advance with the territory of belarus or not? ah here is, indeed appetite grows with food. and, of course, your ambitions. give your desires, which apply to western ukraine the leader of poland has repeatedly expressed, but also note how opponents. the current authorities of the republic of belarus tried in every possible way to manipulate public opinion by saying and warning that belarus would join the war in belarus will enter the war, the injection was maximum, but this is not happening, and here are certain red lines from the mouth of the president of the republic of belarus aleksey sounded why they sounded, we all understand, if to one degree or another. poland acquires control over the western or central part of ukraine for us for belarus - this is an existential threat. we find ourselves surrounded on three sides by hostile regimes. yes, especially if there is

some form of the union of bandera, with pilsuchiki happens, yes, this is schizophrenia, but nevertheless, for the sake of geopolitical goals, they will go for it, and here for us the main goal will simply be to survive. as a state, we, of course, will not look at this, especially knowing the character of our president. we must not allow either belarus or russia to allow the poles to control at least some part of ukraine, they will simply tell me, this is utopia. it is impossible there. she falls apart there. no. we must set somewhere and maximalist goals , so the national interest of the republic of belarus of the union state is that that all of ukraine should not be under nato control how to achieve this is another question to think about it together, but in our minds we must have this formula no poles. nato members should not be anywhere in kiev or odessa or lvov. this is the maximum that , in my opinion, adheres to, including

alexander grigorievich, i want to remind you, naturally, when the west had sanctions, he was convinced that russia would tolerate, probably a catastrophe in economic terms. let's remind our viewers. which states imposed sanctions? which abstained and which were against it and this is our map of the world, and we see that those parts of the world that opposed this are painted in blue, there are countries of the european union that spoke out against the imposition of sanctions, these are austria bulgaria hungary greece cyprus luxembourg slovakia finland and whose there are who have sued the sanctions are argentina belarus brazil two ecuador south africa and many others, and in fact, the key role, and especially in providing those technological opportunities, and having lost, which russia tried for sanctions.

yes , the republic of belarus has acted as such a partner within the framework of the union state yes, absolutely, because we have seen very interesting processes, and russia , in a sense, the situation around ukraine has become like this. uh, maybe drew dividing lines allowed to draw dividing lines. and this conflict was perceived as a way to strengthen the unity of the so-called western world, but against russia and its allies and, accordingly , to prove that russia has no allies and fact. we saw a completely opposite picture. we saw that in fact even these countries, which may still be afraid to openly oppose sanctions, because indeed this is an unfair competition tool, and maybe at some point they will too. the beauty of the sanctions against itself, but nevertheless, at least the number of countries that at least refrain from any assessments is constantly growing. and of course, there is a growing number of countries that are increasingly opposed to the sanctions instrument. sanctions regime as a

policy tool. we know that in fact , many countries in the world are under a permanent regime of sanctions, and this is not only russia and belarus, but also cuba and iran and many, many other countries, therefore, accordingly. we see that the world is developing unevenly for reasons and, of course, in this case, russia must also act as a country that opposes this kind of division of countries into those that are supposedly shaking hands. and this handshake defines a certain gentleman in the white house washington this is an unacceptable situation. and, of course, we saw this also thanks to this dividing process. of course, we now understand that the world is much more diverse and larger, and those countries that at one time also adhered to the atlantic vision of the world. they suddenly begin to understand that there are other countries besides, uh, the euro-atlantic world. there are also the countries of central asia if the same belarus and suddenly the world opened up and became more diverse and wider. especially you you know the topic of our program, cold war

2:0, some people really call it cold hot today, but we are currently trying to draw a causal relationship. how did it happen and we are talking about the prospects of motivation. and uh, at the moment. i would like to talk with a historian, a military expert to the maru savers, he is now in france . mister is very glad to see you on our program. thank you for your invitation. could you explain to me if u west have something to say, the idea of ​​a winning line the successful offensive of ukraine to the south towards the sea of ​​azov leads to the fact that russia capitulates and accepts all the unrealistic demands of ukraine. however, the offensive in and inside russia for the ukrainian army is a scenario

that is in principle unbelievable. so what are the plans, apparently, just the continuation of the war without any or specific solution. in my opinion, the west has only one plan , only a plan, and no plan b. and this plan, but kiev lasted 3-6 months in destroying the russian economy. and uh the plan failed and it turns out that the assumptions. the west has been absolutely wrong about the strength of the russian economy in the west at

the request of the western government of moldova do you think this is a real threat or just a conspiracy theory that if the west does this? that moldova will come to an end, or later it will be in odessa and, uh, transnistria, and it will turn out in this situation. it is possible that the western part will join romania, but transnistria will return to russia, but it is not a fact that this will happen, since it is a very high risk for the west from my point of view. the main objective. now don't lose it. odessans to organize a provocation of russia will have no choice but to get to odessa

through transnistria . do they believe that russia will never use its nuclear arsenal, does this create the possibility of miscalculation, which could lead to a new caribbean crisis? i don't think that russia will use a weapon on the territory of ukraine because vladimir putin himself said that this is part of the russian territory of the historical territory of russia and i have doubts about this. however, there is a risk for the country

that if long-range weapons are supplied to ukraine, they can use them, but the russian military doctrine, according to it, there are intermediate stages between ordinary ones in no, a supersonic missile, for example, they can use this type of immersion somewhere in the united states or in poland , and now such a risk is already higher, but i do not think that russia will use nuclear weapons on the territory of ukraine. however, of course i should even add that e russia does not need to use nuclear weapons in order to defeat the nato army in ukraine, e, if we are talking about how to use the arms raised questions with ammunition, a number of issues that must not be able to solve, as i think, russia will not need weapons for victory either.

thank you thank you for your time our conversation alexey well, this is the opinion expressed by a military expert historian with france we are well aware that the position that voices the leader european, it certainly contradicts what we have just heard, but absolutely sound logical reasoning is the motivation of nato and of course the united states of america, and again it is very important to emphasize that, naturally, the western partners set the initial goal - to allow ukraine to hold out for 3-6 months . that is, later, of course, this whole situation got out of control, and therefore today ukraine is already meeting mr. biden on its territory. and america openly show that she is a kind. not easy partner, yes, and such paternal love is manifested. well, at least optimism. here, too, there are quite a lot of similar actions, and everyone understands perfectly well that the same biden visit. it is designed exclusively for its target

audience on the eve of the 2024 elections , it needs to be argued. and why are so many funds from the pockets of american taxpayers going to support? housing and communal services of ukraine yes, for the time being, it is still beneficial for america, because we see how america is blocking cooperation in the energy sector between europe and russia, that is, strategic the task is being accomplished europe is drifting towards the united states, euro-atlantic unity is being strengthened, and not towards, relatively speaking, eurasia, russia , china, yes, that is, we see how the redistribution has taken place and in this regard, of course, europe is the victim of this war. it loses the strategic , loses the strategic subjectivity and loses the potential of the industrial, and ukraine is also losing the demographic to this. well, the most miserable victim, of course, is ukraine. yes , because people suffer and die there. this is

the demographics. well, i don't even know. how many it will take time. how many hundreds of billions of dollars to restore therefore to ukraine well, do we really think that the united states will deal with this well, of course not. it will be profitable for them to be a gray zone that will draw resources from russia. i remind you on the air the sas program is authorized to declare cold war 2.0 . explained by the main the international conflict of the last eighty years, that is, the period following the final destruction of the concert of europe, includes two world wars. now i would like us to talk about the current rhetoric of the key statements of the leaders of the united states of america and the russian

federation, and the detail is not about this in our story on the same day on february 21 , the presidents of the united states and russia delivered a speech, journalists have already baptized. this is a global event. at the same time, many experts and the media immediately began to compare the message of the two leaders against. joe biden's statement to vladimir putin all the years after the collapse of the soviet union, the west did not stop trying to set fire to the post-soviet states and, most importantly, finally finish off russia as the largest surviving part of our historical state space, international terrorists were encouraged and set against us. provoked regional conflicts along the perimeter of our borders, ignored our interests and used means of economic deterrence and suppression even before biden's visit to poland, the white house assured that the speech the american leader will by no means be a response to putin's message however, in reality.

everything turned out differently the united states and european countries are not going to destroy russia the west was not going to attack russia as putin says but we will punish all those who commit war crimes and crimes against humanity the conflict in ukraine will never be a victory for russia ever. the most discussed moment in vladimir putin's speech was the finale moscow announced the suspension of its participation in the agreement on snv. after all, nato, led by the united states, is not only building up its military potential around russia, but also not shy about using nuclear rhetoric. the united states and nato rapidly deployed their army bases near the borders of our country, secret biolaboratories , in the course of manners, mastered the theater of future military operations, prepared under the imperious kiev regime, enslaved them ukraine to a big war on these accusations. biden. i decided not to react in any way, but made it clear that the military

conflict would continue when president putin ordered his tank and drive into ukraine, he thought we would roll over. he was wrong. he thought nato would splinter and divide instead nato is more united than ever, it has been repeatedly repeated in moscow before, and the importance of keeping the peace. now it is more than ever cotton, we are protecting the lives of people in our own home, and the goal of the west is unlimited power. he has already spent more than $150 billion on aiding and arming the kiev regime, for comparison, according to the organization for economic development cooperation , the strange seven allocated for 2020-21 to help the world's poorest state years of the order of sixty billion dollars in the united states of the fragility of the world decided not to think in his speech. biden. only confirmed the further desire of washington to exert all kinds of pressure on moscow there should be no doubt that we will not falter and will not get tired

of supporting ukraine this week. we will announce new sanctions against russia according to experts. the message of putin and biden became political gestures within the framework of the russian american confrontation, the essence of which is the mutual recognition of the right to interests and spheres of influence, while being emphasized. vladimir putin, no one should have the dangerous illusion that global strategic parity can be destroyed. by the way, it is worth noting that, again , these are the words of mr. biden, we will not flinch. this is also a reference to a speech that was made in 2003 by bush about the events of 9/11. that is, we understand that if you analyze certain points in this way, here is the same keynote speech about us leadership in supporting ukraine biden. i could have said it in kiev, but he said it in warsaw and here this is also explained by the fact that rather all the same. they did not want to draconize moscow because, and everyone understands that before

making this secret visit. anyway , the american side consulted, received permission, yes, the russian side, and, of course, this is biden's pr. natalya, what are your feelings in general, and what feelings did you emphasize for yourself when you heard vladimir putin's speech to the federal assembly and heard the speech of the gentleman. biden to how natural, no matter how the american side did not try to deny it, but still the speech biden - it was a response to putin's words yes. and by the way, it was very clear that this is for the western world. still, business, first of all, there is such a concept . the key is the ratio of risks and profits. as long as it's acceptable. in general, it is possible to pursue one or another policy, and it was obviously acceptable. and in all the military interventions that the united states had previously carried out , it is clear that now the situation is critically

different. and here it is necessary to correlate these risks and benefits much more and shift risks, if possible, on your allies, first of all, on the poles who are torn like this, follow your own, so to speak, external strategy, heal your historical wounds, if you listen to the president of the russian federation , you get some feeling that we scattered stones for a long time, then we collected them for a long time , and now they began to defend themselves, but we began to defend ourselves, because we were already on our own. i'm waiting for the aggressive ball itself . he used to act in the backyard, then he moved to the front yard. and now he's already broke in the door, and in general, in this situation, i had to react, that is, this situation is in a kind of preemptive reaction, and when he says this or that position regarding ukraine, we understand that the west has a clear understanding of ukraine's role before fighting the latter's neighbor ukrainian. they made this political project of anti-ukraine. and we don't understand yet. what is our political project in relation to these territories, but, because there really is a certain historical background. there is an understanding

that, in general, ukraine as such will never was. mostly. here is its historical subjectivity. it is so insignificant in a historical context. what's the operation somewhere to go? almost nothing, but there are large simple historical ones that we now rely on. and on which of these periods of periods should we rely on this key moment, e, it is very significant and therefore, actually, this is where our president’s speech that we have the right to defend ourselves comes from. this happened here many times. well, and in addition, of course, our president drew attention to the fact that the very architecture of the international security has been shattered under the slogan that supposedly the plants are respecting. and these agreements, namely the united states of america, it is the united states that has consistently withdrawn from those agreements and, as a result, the result of the reaction to these withdrawals. this, of course, is a statement by the russian federation that russia is suspending its participation in the cis. therefore, in this case. please tell me anton varenevna. what does it mean in practice? this word

suspension in fact, this is, uh, the first step for a full-fledged exit, but in fact, this while the ladies are talking about the suspension, this is, uh, so, throw a trial balloon and see the reaction and see. what is it all the same, is there any interest, what kind of reaction is there, if there is still an interest in returning to dialogue, because this is a call for dialogue and, in general, russia once again, but to show that it does not break any. kleene ties, because if we were to break the lines of communication, we would have announced, just much tougher options for events. the solution of these problems, and we would have announced the withdrawal, they are about suspension, but the problem of interpretation. again, how interprets is wrong. our western non-partners of the events in ukraine believe that rakiyev is worth it. so, this is kiev well done. and this, accordingly, they interpret well done, they do not incorrectly make a logical error, not understanding that kiev is standing, because russia is conducting these military operations in such a way as not to inflict this

maximum damage, which they are usually used to inflicting and, in general, , they judge by themselves in e, they judge by those military campaigns that they themselves conducted, alexey, tell me, then in the witness of recent events is collapsing, here is the term strategic stability hmm well, let's say i would use a different term, and there is a speech. yes, we still do not see that the facade of this phone is completely collapsed. but the crack is serious and we all understand that it will take a very serious effort to update this building, this architecture. and, probably, after the end of this confrontation, because the architecture will already be different, vladimir putin said that the treaty on strategic offensive arms already lacks, at a minimum, britain and france nuclear powers. but there is also china, we understand that there is also north korea and india and pakistan, that is, the new architecture should be more

global and comprehensive. yes, if we are talking about a polar world , but so far even the united states is not ready to reckon with anyone other than itself, and this, as it were, is a crisis, but the fact that they do not want to give anyone the right to decide something on the planet and russia is fighting in this sense, of course, defending this right for everyone else. well, for now, we will come to a new agreement. it may take a very long time. now this is an acute phase and it certainly. long enough, until everything settles down, and until they understand that they will have to share rights with many in this world. but tell alexei here repeatedly and mr. lavrov has already spoken about this , all the red lines have already been crossed, the level of escalation of the conflict is already so high, and yet russia declares. don't tease us. don't cross this line. do not force us to use what we would not like, and here again

, statements about the suspension of participation in the cis agreement. that is, again, this is such signal. and if the west ignores it again, what methods then remain hmm well, you know, i'm here, maybe i will speak more subjectively, of course, russia shows amazing restraint and honor of these praise to the leadership, realizing that here is the behavior of russia, here are any figures in this deadly tango by the west depends on the fate of the world. this is a very responsible role. i understand how difficult the war is for the political leadership of russia to take certain retaliatory measures, but there are things that need to be demonstratively to answer, for example, infrastructure terrorism, we hear many statements regarding the fact that yes, the united states is to blame, these are obvious actors. it is they who are to blame for this

, american journalists themselves. they say we hear certain loud words of a number of people, there dmitry anatolyevich yes in his telegram and i understand how difficult it is to make a choice. what to answer, but er and the world. and the people need to show the answer really, so that it is clear. that russia not only concentrates and thinks, but can also answer in this way. well, let it be asymmetrical. let pointwise, so that all the same in the west, they feel a clear threat to themselves. only this will force them to go to real negotiations. well, that's what they're talking about right now, we have the opportunity to chat with timofemerdach timofey hello, i'm glad to see you, our studios. hello hello colleagues. alexey natalya hello. you too, when analyzing the interests involved in the current

confrontation of the parties partial reputational loss in the eyes. the same hawks of which in western societies. well, most then what's the catch? maybe we don't understand something for the west , something so grandiose is at stake, which makes the continuation of the confrontation the best choice. here. what is your opinion, because we would like to talk about the world, but honestly there are no prerequisites. you know, it seems to me that now in the west there is no understanding that the situation is dangerous. maybe they are right in some way, because russia is also not says that the current situation poses a direct threat to russia here and now russia talks about strategic threats, the president spoke about this in his message, but the situation is far from the caribbean

crisis. for example, when the united states of the soviet union directly threatened each other's territory. that is, i do not think that now the perception of this crisis of this conflict is dramatic enough to make any concessions or negotiate with anyone. russia says it despite deliveries there will be weapons. this matter will be brought to an end. despite the supply of western weapons, and in principle in the west, can this be considered as such an invitation? well, we are fighting, and we are fighting to the last ukrainian, and then we will see. why step on? why negotiate if they are at war, and here, by the way, timofey i think many international specialists followed the movements and meetings of mr. van. and in recent days, there has been a lot of talk that in the current crisis, china has finally made its

choice and is ready to move to a more active russian support as far as it is, in your opinion. well, it depends on what we understand as more active support in russia, uh, at all levels throughout the year, it was repeatedly confirmed that the chinese russian strategic partnership is strong, as mr. ivan defined the rock and, in principle, no one in russia , there have been no questions about this over the past year. well, we are completely satisfied with the positions that our chinese friends occupy. they consistently call for peace, which is right and they consistently indicate who is the main culprit of the european crisis. and who should? go to negotiations, who should stop supplying the kiev regime with weapons and thereby more and more deaths to the people of ukraine, so i don’t

think that china, we can say that the chinese position. somehow it has changed, it has remained consistent over the course of the past year, and russia is quite happy with this. i can't help but ask your mind. what other places to expect? escalation of confrontation between russia and the west that it could be africa syria venezuela or ukraine will take so much power from moscow that in other places russia will avoid any confrontation? you argue in an interesting way, as if in russia you are the initiator of confrontation. i think your position is wrong hope russia where they would never be wrong. russia has never been the initiator of a confrontation anywhere, not in syria, not in africa, not in ukraine, in fact. it was the smell that initiated the confrontation therefore what does it mean that russia has no strength russia provides its basic interests and values, and where the westerners will do

bad things to us, russia will respond. they may well try to spread it. uh, radical islamic terrorism in central asia now they have experience, they keep a lot of isis under their wing in order to throw them into the central asian regions. and there they may well try to do something bad there. well, i think that russia with its allies in central asia in first of all, uzbekistan so far, these problems have to be solved. maybe they are trying to spoil something in the south caucasus there, the murky position of the armenian leadership greatly contributes to this and the behavior of azerbaijan, which clearly makes its choice not in favor of russia, and russia itself, you are mistaken. she never initiates any conflicts. thank you for your answers, this year there were a lot of hot spots, more like barrels of gunpowder that the west could

easily ignite, even the situation with kosovo and, again, serbia for the russian federation is very important in historical terms, first of all, the author of international relations and it was also impossible to ignore, but if the west has such a desire, or now the situation with the same taiwan and this is the main fight, which i think we have yet to see and forces the united states america's focus solely on the situation around ukraine is a very interesting question. for the simple reason that strategically, if we look at the main documents of the united states of america, then, of course, they are focused on the pacific regions, and like the british see the indo-pacific region as the main one for their claims in order to confirm their global leadership, but a very interesting approach. but the fact is that access to this pacific region is possible from different sides, but for the united states it is possible. in general, immediately

to the sides for the british, for example, for the allies of the united states, it is possible, including through russia, and of course, in this case , but russian but the big russian large space and certain flanks, which still controls, russia vise the black sea which allows you to go further, and, accordingly, on the one hand to the arctic, on the other hand, the middle east, central asia, the caucasus and beyond, and up to the pacific region. this is just the key question, because as long as there is, in general, such an entity as the russian federation that controls these main and structural yes lines of movement, then, of course, titan will be the leader in solving all your problems in the pacific region. they are simply impossible. although we see it displacement for this reason. i understand that the european front is this foothold. this is still an accompanying springboard and anti-russian rhetoric and russia’s tying up here is a cleansing, but for

some specific manipulations for certain tactics, which can be shown in the near future and this year, too, in this region, it’s no coincidence, as since the us and uk are evaluating our interaction with china from the point of view of that. how much china invests in infrastructure, in infrastructure projects, how well we interact with him in central asia, e. what kind of opposition does china have on the caucasian issue? on nagorno-karabakh , and so on and so forth. that is , it is the lines of contact and the plant itself that are considered in this sense. with other weird ones. i am within the framework of the eu and within the framework of the sco and within the framework of the brix, this is the main thing, because this is a link and for this reason we should not take ukraine out of the context of the global one, consider it as a separate field of action. no it's just one from the flanks. here is a great game. and this vestibule is just a vestibule, and therefore we need to pay

great attention to it now. because if we stop these cargoes here, they will not be distributed further. and now, at least spread in this. so the key is, how could they, if we give in here, there will be no peace, russia will not be. thank you. aleksey, you watched, yes , certain meetings that took place on the russian side, the chinese side, as far as this indicates a certain new stage, and in the same relationship and will provide support, if russia needs it, and again such vice versa. i would not like to say any inflated expectations or high-flown words that it is there, the alliance that has taken shape, and so on. the commonality of strategic interests is obvious. china is interested in a stable partner in the north with stable borders in the supply of the same russian energy resources. naturally,

it is mutually interested that there should also be a predictable partner, while there is no ideological contradiction, there is a commonality of certain geopolitical strategic interests. well , there is a common enemy of competitors that brings them together. ah, but we all understand that the chinese strategic culture. she is not sharp, she will watch from the mountain. this means that a smart monkey is behind the way the tigers fight in the valley, and the task of russia in this case is to demonstrate that everyone expects from it the decisiveness of the will to win, only this will incline all eastern partners towards closer relations. although now it is possible to say that a in one way or another, whether indirectly directly or in a way, of course, china rather plays on russian e. on the russian field in favor of russia, this is help. uh, in m-m reorientation of energy flows. this is

diplomatic support. this is, let's say, a decrease in tension on the eastern borders, yes , when the russian army can send troops from the far east without fear that there is some kind of stab in the back, and all this is happening on the western front. well, i do not expect, here are some bright allied special effects there. yes this will not be. at least not to that extent yet. it is clear that russia wins unconditionally, because it always observes the east and makes a choice. well, probably at the last moment in favor of the obvious winner. this is what is really happening and, of course, the republic of belarus has become a key partner for the russian federation, especially this year within the framework of the union state, and in the near future the president of the republic of belarus will visit china . in addition, of course, today we are talking about ukraine, we are talking about that mirny initiatives have disappeared, and arts we hear,

exclusively, militant territory, but alexander lukashenko has always declared peaceful initiatives and declares at the moment let's hear a direct speech. do you want peace in ukraine let's start talking about peace tomorrow. and the guns will stop firing. but you don't want that. you don’t want this, but you will jump to the point that the military will come to kiev and turn the heads of politicians together with zelensky, the ukrainian military will come to kiev and put everyone in their place, because they are a meat grinder, and you run around europe and under applause, ask for some fighter weapons and stuff. you are the culprits of the escalation today, people are dying, about whom you said, let's stop this. let's do it all now. eh, there is no for that. you don't want it. i will not say. you europe is ready for this

europe wants this. she knows that maybe the americans don't want this and have tilted europe, put her in a pose and do whatever they want with her. yes, absolutely fair speech. the fact is that there are certain so -called diressants of the ukrainian conflict, who receive a certain profit, and in general, the conflict is perceived as a double game on the one hand. we fight against competitors, but on the other hand. we approve some of our strategic line. the very same poles have always wanted to declare themselves as such main almost different partners for great britain, the usa within nato. so they very much want to win back this card, plus historical ambitions. and here is such an opportunity to show all these desires, your aspirations and show yourself as militant, studying a nation that is capable of setting a task. to fulfill them again under the guise of some big son-in-law, therefore, in this case, the same strange thing is being played again

in the baltic states the same game, that is, we are so significant, we are so important within nato within the european union we direct the entire policy factor against russia, we we the outpost of this struggle against the allegedly barbaric. a world directed against democracy, we are defending democracy, and the same theme sounds in ukraine that the democratic country itself is fighting against authoritarian authoritarian country, and in general, against everyone. uh, the so-called autocracies are the same rhetoric, but what is it, that is, in fact, it turns out that politicians do certain things for themselves, which means they receive preferences, and you present yourself in this perspective as cool leaders. yes, in fact, which means that the block of the military -industrial complex receives money opportunities, but for production, but again, some kind of complex is american and partly british, all the rest, in general, stand on the side, and, therefore

that they should now deliver their equipment, and then again order some military equipment from the americans in order to replenish those, and the deliveries that they carried out this game are sent from washington , they started it there and in general, it will need it there, apparently, finish the only one, the people that today could stop this conflict. these were ukrainians who would come out only with slogans not militant, but peace, but at the moment they do not have such opportunities, because the only tv channel is the only rhetoric. and those who only they can raise their head immediately on the same head and beat alexey let's make the final word today's program will sound from yours. you know i will continue. here is your thought , i am still convinced that there is an inner strength of the internal ukrainian people, a strength aimed at friendship and our united family, you are definitely slavic, to be together. yes , uh, there are military methods, there are diplomatic methods,

but, probably, some kind of spiritual transformation must take place, it will definitely happen, because we are all people, and one faith, and i'm sure it's faith us. as a result , it will save us at the end of our extremely interesting conversation. i would like to quote a paragraph from a recent interview with a russian international specialist and a regular participant in the discussion in our program, fyodor lukyanov , in all respects. ukraine has turned into a kind of testing ground, if you like , a construction site where a new international hierarchy is being built. and it's nobody. it hides, but such a process is obviously long and stubborn, so guessing in time perspectives is almost useless. this it is important to understand the question is not in ukraine , but in what kind of new system of international relations should be and who will command it. and since nothing will end quickly, it’s easier

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