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greetings you can't lose, young generation, our whole complex of saints, the myrrh-bearing monastery, the alexander nevsky cathedral, and all the other churches that are planned here as a whole. it will be very beautiful spiritual complexes. where i think that over time people from other countries will also come and it will be a place of such a great pilgrimage, there is nowhere to go, yes, that is, he does not find solace anywhere. and so, i would very much like to have a pilgrim's house in our monastery, where any sportsmen and artists could come, that is, people with different professions, who, well, got somewhere, maybe some kind of injury or they are at some kind of crossroads so that they can calm down, pray to look at life somehow more spiritually, even at their own the problem they faced to offend so it was.
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right now. us president joe biden made an unexpected visit to kiev the visit to the capital of ukraine by the american leader was not announced anywhere for security reasons . it is known that the white house , a few hours before biden's arrival in ukraine , notified the russian side about the visit of vo to avoid excesses, analysts link the trip with the start of the us election race, where biden intends to run for a second term, and president of the republic of belarus alexander lukashenko expressed his opinion on the visit of the us leader in an interview with the news agency, xinhua and the media corporation of china . such a visit. why elections are presidential elections and he wants, uh, joe biden on a horse on a horse of war. jump into this election campaign
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the head of the office of the commission of the central committee visited moscow communist party, china's international affairs. wang named wang in the recent past and headed nitkoiner. and now serving as a special envoy of president xi, jinping press is actively discussing possible business cards. mr. xi to moscow this spring , such an event will be a demonstration of unequivocal support for the chinese position of russia in the ukrainian conflict. in the meantime, during his visit to russia, wang emphasized in every possible way that the efforts of third countries to destroy the russian-chinese partnership are doomed to failure. us eu russia announced the suspension of participation in the strategic offensive arms treaty the treaty provided for limiting the number of deployed nuclear weapons carriers and warheads placed on them for the us and russia the document was the last international agreement in force in the field of nuclear
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weapons control, in fact, we can say that the system of checks formed during the cold war for the two leading nuclear powers ceased to exist. and today's program will start with verses blessed is who the world was dedicated in its fatal moments, he was called by all the good, as an interlocutor to the feast, he is a spectator of their high spectacles, he was admitted to their council and alive, as a celestial from the cup of their immortality, he drank these lines, not only of the poet, but also of the diplomat fyodor ivanovich tyutchev for a year now, as a consolation to all of us, the world is experiencing the most massive upheavals since the end of the cold war. what is the result and what will be the vector of changes and what to expect from the new cold war? we will understand exactly this program and valerievna will help me in this. eremina doctor of political sciences professor of the department of european studies of the faculties
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of international relations of st. petersburg state university. hello and aleksey dzerzhint political scientist is with us today. hello alexei hello, we are starting our program with a blitz millet, in your opinion, is there a high risk that the new cold war will become hot alexei please what is meant by a hot war? that is, a nuclear conflict or a collision within the framework of , say, conventional weapons? yes if uh, the second option, then in fact it is already happening and uh, we are here, of course, on the verge of a larger-scale conflict. yes, and i would not want it to be with the use of nuclear weapons, but i will say, so since the caribbean crisis , the risk of such a conflict is greater than ever. i absolutely agree with you, natalya valerievich, i share the conviction that in fact we have already we are in a state of very serious conflict. and
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in fact, in fact, the hot spot has always existed, and one of the hallmarks of the cold war is just that hot clash in different parts of the world. therefore , we actually see such a reincarnation of the cold war now, but just now the war has come, very close to us. it is actually on our doorstep. i will ask my colleagues to withdraw the card. the theater of military operations in the east of ukraine today looks exactly like this. alexey , i know that your trip to the kherson region took place not so long ago. tell in general. what moods prevail in society and how successful the special military operation is at the moment. yes i was in kherson and their zaporozhye regions. and of course the main question that people ask. how long will the war last and whether russia has come forever, because this is the most important thing for people to feel confident in the future and the second impression about what
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happened there in the ukrainian time, unfortunately, is the decay of society. that is , on the one hand, the state was replaced by nationalist groups, which, uh, took over power and inflicted a monopoly. ah, it already belonged to them. yes, that is, officials and the second is how they decomposed. well, relatively speaking, du consciousness, that is, the massive influence of sects. this is the decomposition well, of our community of some kind of spiritual. this is what i just saw . and of course, when you come there with people, you have to work, that is, russia has already begun this work, but you need to go deeper and more systematic and, of course, tell what will happen next. yes, someone is waiting for the return of ukraine, but the most important message is what russia has brought and what it gives these people, this needs to be explained. well, including me also on the part of an ally of the republic of belarus , this is a matter, but our people are not lost. you just need to practice.
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and tell me, please, how do you assess this year as a whole of seeing a special military operation, because there were different periods and, probably , the potential that russia planned to deploy was not always successful and lately, great successes, but there were co on the part of the private military company wagner, what are the future plans, what are the prospects? in your opinion, the russian federation has very concretely and clearly shown your intention to be in these territories? that's at least, at least, that's a very basic point, the most important thing, in which we will further digress, and on which we will rely, but in addition to the fact that we clearly stated that we are here in these territories, that we came here, and we do not intend to leave here, because there is a certain strategy for the development of these territories, inclusion in the russian federation, respectively, with all the related infrastructure, and so on and so forth, such work, indeed
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has already begun, but it is very important to really solve military issues. here, without a decision on the final military plan, without a clear understanding. here is the format in which ukraine will exist and whether it will exist at all, we will not solve the issue of these territories, because the question should still be in hostilities. we will not leave here that we are in these territories. about what ukraine will be like as a whole. and now, answering this big question, what to wash with ukraine we will answer all other questions, including military ones, including those of a socio-political nature, and including economic ones. i want to remind everyone that when these territories were included in the russian empire. they gave a very big impetus to economic development. this is the port area. this is the southern zone. this is a recreation area. the agricultural zone is the labor zone. that is metallurgy. uh, minerals and so on. therefore, in this case, this is a very large amount of a useful resource in general, and above all, of course, people who are hardened, and terrible
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trials. and in general, the feeling of this big country, which should now come to them. i hope that we will all somehow be in this and contribute to the feeling that you belong to a big family in a huge country, and we are all different, but we are all relatives to each other. this is the main task that we now face, in addition to military operations, but now i repeat without answering the question of what ukraine will be and whether it will represent anything at all, we will not answer these questions, but there is the key question that is being asked. probably every participant in this process is every person who monitors the situation that has erupted in the community. how long will all this go on? here's to your point of view. i want us to try to pass at the beginning of the program. this, of course, is a subjective opinion, but another year 2023 will be a hot year, based on tactical considerations and based on the position in relation to, for example, novorossia. it is clear that this period is still spring, based on strategic considerations. we understand that
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it's a much larger space. these are necessary, and the corridors, including those connected with transdniestria and so on, this situation may be, uh, in the summer during the season may be the autumn season, because we do not know how the situation will develop. yes, but there is a socio-political situation that requires much more. for work with the population alexei please , are you ready to give your forecast ? uh, it sounded like speech of a colleague, what ukraine will be like and whether it will actually be right now to save ukraine's people, ending the war, it would be important that a ukrainian subject appear. whether he will act from abroad or rely on the underground within ukraine, the fate of ukraine
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must still be decided, including by the ukrainians themselves, and for this there must be a subject who would say clearly, we want an end to the war. we want peace with our neighbors , this is difficult. here. so far i see some signs of a hint that he is starting to appear, but it did not become a factor, yes, which also affects a serious decision, because so far, on behalf of the ukrainian people , the kiev regime, headed by zelensky, is speaking, which , in fact, made zombies out of ukrainians and they let them all into a meat grinder. and if this continues. e further, it will continue for a long time until the last ukrainian. we understand this, therefore, in a word, cardinal situations in a political and other sense will come only when, after all, a ukrainian subject actually appears, which declares gotta stop this. we have our right to vote and we want to see our country peaceful.
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well, you see, aleksey, i think you will agree that the year was extremely nervous, and this nervousness turned out to be the citizens of the republic, belarus, because this is hysteria , the desire to raise the degree to the maximum, probably the degree possible on the part of the neighbors of the republic of belarus, extremely aggressive statements were made from the lips the leaders of poland or you and latvia, and by the way, the leader of the republic of belarus expressed his concern and certain thoughts question alexander lukashenko let's hear together with the russians to fight from the territory of belarus or that only in one so far , what is better if at least one soldier from there with a gun comes to our territory to kill my people, if they commit aggression against belarus, the answer will be the most cruel ukraine was only an excuse to start this war , the united states of america and
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someone in western europe wanted to start this war. i mean, your manners with the hands of the poles, at least western ukraine, but this will already be a fight. well thing and then you won't ask me questions. will we attack from the territory of belarus or not? ah here is, indeed appetite grows with food. and, of course, your ambitions. give your desires, which apply to western ukraine the leader of poland has repeatedly expressed, but also note how opponents. the current authorities of the republic of belarus tried in every possible way to manipulate public opinion by saying and warning that belarus would enter a war in belarus, they would enter a war, forcing was maximum, but this does not happen, and here certain red lines from the mouth of the president of the republic of belarus sounded aleksey why they sounded, we all understand, if to one degree or another.
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poland acquires control over the western or central part of ukraine for us for belarus - this is an existential threat. we find ourselves surrounded on three sides by hostile regimes. yes, all the more so if there is some form of the union of bandera, with the pilsuchiks, yes, this is schizophrenia, but nevertheless, for the sake of geopolitical goals, they will go for this, and this is the main goal for us here it will be easy to survive as a state, and we, of course, will not look at this, especially since we know the character of our president. we must not allow either belarus or russia to allow the poles to control at least some part of ukraine, they will simply tell me, this is utopia. it is impossible there. she falls apart there. no. we must set maximalist goals somewhere , but the national interest of the republic of belarus of the union state is answered by the fact that all of ukraine should not be under the control of nato, how to achieve this is another question over
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think of it together, but in the minds we must have this formula no poles. nato members should not be anywhere in kiev , odessa, or lvov. this is the maximum that , in my opinion, adheres to, including alexander grigoryevich, i want to remind you, of course, when the west is in the sanctions department. he was convinced that russia would probably suffer a catastrophe in economic terms. let's remind our viewers. which states have imposed sanctions? which abstained and which opposed it, and this is what we have map of the world, and we see that those parts of the world that opposed this are colored in blue, there are countries of the european union that opposed the imposition of sanctions , these are austria bulgaria hungary greece cyprus luxembourg slovakia finland and the czech republic and there are those that sued the sanctions argentina belarus brazil
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brazil tebe ecuador the south africans, many others, and in fact, a key role, and especially in providing those technological opportunities, and having lost, which russia tried for sanctions. yes, refund like this the republic of belarus also acted as a partner within the union state . yes, absolutely, because we have seen very interesting processes. and russia, in a sense , the situation around ukraine has become like this. uh, maybe drew dividing lines allowed to draw dividing lines. and this conflict was perceived as a way to strengthen the unity of the so-called western world, but against russia and its allies and, accordingly, to prove that russia has no allies and in fact we saw a completely opposite picture. we have seen that it really is even these countries, which may still be afraid to openly oppose sanctions, because indeed this is an unfair competition tool. and maybe at some
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point they will too. the beauty of the sanctions against itself, but nevertheless, at least the number of countries that at least refrain from any assessments is constantly growing. and of course, there is a growing number of countries that are increasingly opposed to the sanctions tool of the sanctions regime as a policy tool. we know that in fact many countries in the world are under a permanent regime of sanctions, and this is not only russia and belarus - this is cuba and iran and many, many other countries, therefore, respectively. we see that the world is developing unevenly for reasons and, of course, in this case, russia must also act as a country that opposes this kind of division of countries into those that are supposedly shaking hands. and this handshake is determined by a certain gentleman in the white house in washington. this is an unacceptable situation. and, of course, we saw this also thanks to this dividing process. of course, we now understand that the world is much more diverse on a larger scale and those countries that at one time also adhered to the atlantic
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vision of the world. they suddenly begin to understand that there are other countries besides the europlactic world. there are also the countries of central asia, there is the same belarus , and suddenly the world opened up and became more diverse and wider, i especially agree. you know the theme of our program is cold war 2.0 someone is really on today calls it cold hot, but we are currently trying to draw a causal relationship. how did it happen and we are talking about the prospects of motivation. and uh, at the moment. i would like to talk with a historian, a military expert to the maru savers, he is now in missimo france. i'm glad to see you on our show. thank you for your offer. does the west have a clear idea of a winning strategy, as far as we understand the successful offensive of ukraine to the south, towards
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the sea of \u200b\u200bazov, it cuts to the fact that russia capitulates and accepts all the unrealistic demands of ukraine however, the offensive, but inside russia for the ukrainian army. scenario, in principle unbelievable so islam seems to be just a continuation of the war without any concrete solution. in my opinion, the west has only one plan , only a plan, and no plan b. and this plan, but 3-6 months was reflected in destroying the russian economy. and uh the plan failed and it turns out that the assumptions. the west were absolutely wrong about the strength of
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the western russian economy of the government of moldova that this is a real threat or just a theory and the problem is, what if the west does this? c then moldova will come, the end will be late in odessa and, uh, transnistria, and it will work out in this situation. it is possible that the western part of the president will return to romania but transnistria will return to russia, but it is not a fact that this will happen, since it is a very high risk for the west from my point of view. main
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goal. now it is not to lose odessa , a provocation is being organized , russia will have no choice but to get to odessa through transnistria future red line about addicted and the west in the conflict sharpened blurred western believe that russia will never use its nuclear arsenal, does this create the possibility of miscalculation, which could lead to a new caribbean crisis? i don't think russia will use these weapons on ukrainian territory because vladimir putin himself said that this is part of the russian territory
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of the historical territory of russia. however , there is a risk for the country that if long-range weapons are supplied to ukraine, can use them, but ah, there is. for example, they can use this type of weaponry somewhere in the united states or in poland, uh, and now such a risk is already higher, but i don’t think that russia will use nuclear weapons on the territory of ukraine however, of course, i must even add that russia does not need to use nuclear weapons in order to defeat the nato army in ukraine
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. will not be able to decide, as i think, and russia will not need nuclear weapons for victory. thank you for your jew, our conversation, alexei well, this is the opinion expressed by a military expert and historian from france, we are well aware that the position that the european leader voices, it certainly contradicts what we just heard, but absolutely sound logical argumentation is the motivation of nato and of course the united states america and, again, such it is very important to emphasize that, naturally, the western partners set the initial goal is to allow ukraine to hold out for 3-6 months. that is, later, of course, this whole situation got out of control, and therefore today ukraine is already meeting mr. biden on its territory. and america openly show
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that she is a kind. not just a partner, yes, but such paternal love is manifested. well, although cynicism. here, too, there are a lot of similar actions, and everyone is well aware that the same biden visit. it is designed exclusively for its target audience in the run-up to the 2024 elections. need to be argued. and why are so many funds from the pockets of american taxpayers going to support? ukraine yes, so far it is still beneficial for america. because we see how america is blocking cooperation in the energy sector between europe and russia, that is, the strategic task is being fulfilled europe is drifting towards the united states , euro-atlantic unity is being strengthened, and not relatively speaking towards eurasia, russia, china , yes, that is, we see how the redistribution has occurred in in this respect, of course, europe is the victim of this war. she loses her strategic
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loses its strategic subjectivity and loses the potential of the industrial and ukrainian women, and it also loses its demographic. well, the most miserable victim, of course, is ukraine. yes , because people suffer and die there. this is the demographics. well, i don't even know. how much time will it take. how many hundreds of billions of dollars to restore therefore to ukraine well, do we really think that the united states will deal with this well, of course not. for them , the gray zone will be beneficial, which will draw resources from russia . cold war 2.0 discussing and analyzing the clash of the concept of america first among equals with russia's desire to be equal among the first inherited by soviet russian leaders from their pre-revolutionary predecessors is explained by the main international conflict of the last 80 years,
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that is, the period following the final destruction of the european concert includes two world wars . now i would like us to talk about the current rhetoric of the key statements of the leaders of the united states of america and the russian federation and more about this in our story. on the same day, february 21 , the presidents of the united states and russia delivered a speech, journalists were already baptized. this is a global event. at the same time, many experts and the media immediately began to compare the messages of the two leaders, opposing joe biden's statement to vladimir putin, all the years after the collapse of the soviet union, the west did not stop trying to set fire to the post-soviet states and , most importantly, finally finish off russia.
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unleashed international terrorists on us, provoked regional conflicts along the perimeter of our borders, ignored our interests and used means of economic deterrence and suppression even before biden's visit to poland , the white house assured that the speech of the american leader would in no case be a response to putin's message however, in reality . everything turned out differently. the united states and the countries of europe are not going to. the west was not going to attack russia as putin says, but we will punish everyone who commits military crimes and crimes against humanity conflict. ukraine will never be a victory for russia, perhaps the most discussed moment in vladimir putin's speech was the finale moscow announced when stopping its participation in the start treaty. after all, nato, led by the united states, not only builds up its military potential around russia, but also does not hesitate to use nuclear rhetoric. the united states and nato quickly deployed their army bases near the borders of our country, secret biolaboratories mastered the theater in the course of manners
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future hostilities were preparing the subservient regime, ukraine, enslaved by them, for a big war on these accusations. biden. i decided not to react in any way, but made it clear that the military conflict would continue when president putin ordered. to drive into ukraine with a tank, he thought that we would roll over, he was wrong. he thought nato would splinter and divide instead nato is more united than ever before in moscow the importance of keeping the peace has been repeatedly reiterated. after all, now he is more fragile than ever. we protect the lives of people in our own home. and the goals the west has unlimited power. he has already spent more than $150 billion on aiding and arming the kiev regime, by comparison, according to the organization for economic cooperation and development, to help the world's poorest states. strange. the sevens have allocated about sixty
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billion dollars in 2020-21 in the united states, the fragility of the world decided not to think in their speech. biden. only confirmed the further desire of washington to exert all kinds of pressure on moscow there should be no doubt that we will not falter and will not get tired of supporting ukraine this week. we will announce. on new sanctions against russia, according to experts, the message of putin and biden became political gestures within the framework of the russian american confrontation , the essence of which is the mutual recognition of the right to interest and spheres of influence, while, as vladimir putin emphasized , no one should have dangerous illusions that global strategic parity can be destroyed. by the way, it is worth noting that, again , these are the words of mr. biden, we will not flinch. this is also a reference to a speech that was made in 2003 by bush about the events of 11 september. that is, we understand that if you
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analyze certain points in this way. here is the same keynote speech about us leadership in supporting ukraine biden. he could have said it in kiev, but he said it in warsaw. and here , too, this is explained by the fact that it’s more likely after all. they did not want to draconize moscow because, and everyone understands that before making this secret visit. anyway , the american side consulted, received permission, yes, the russian side, and, of course, this is biden's pr. natalya what are you in in general? and the feeling that you emphasized for yourself when you heard vladimir putin's message to the federal assembly and heard the speech of the gentleman. biden to how natural, no matter how the american side tried to deny it, but still biden's speech was a response to putin's words yes. and by the way, it was very clear that this is for the western world. still, business, first of all, there is such a concept
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. the key is the ratio of risks and profits. as long as it's acceptable. in general, one or another policy can be pursued, and it it was obviously acceptable, and in all the military interventions that the united states had previously carried out , it is clear that now the situation is critically different. and here it is necessary to correlate these risks and benefits much more and shift the risks, if possible, to their allies , primarily to the poles, who are eager to carry out their, so to speak, external strategy, heal their historical wounds, if you listen to the president of the russian federation , it develops some sensations that we scattered stones for a long time, then for a long time they collected, and now they began to defend themselves, but we began to defend ourselves involuntarily, because we were already on our own. i'm waiting for the aggressive ball itself . he used to act in the backyard, then he moved to the front yard. and now he has already broken into the door, and in general, in this situation, he had to react, that is, this situation is in a kind of reaction of anticipation. and when biden says this or that position regarding
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ukraine, we understand that the west has a clear understanding of ukraine's role before fighting the neighbor of the last ukrainian. they made up this political project of anti-ukraine. and we don't understand yet. what is our political project in relation to these territories, but, because there really is a certain historical background. there is an understanding that, in general, ukraine as such has never existed. mostly. here is its historical subjectivity. it is so insignificant in the historical context that here the operation can almost go like that and there is nothing, but there are large simple historical ones that we now rely on. and which of these period of periods, we rely on this key moment, it is very significant and therefore, actually, hence the speech of our president that we have the right to defend ourselves . that's it. it happened many times. well , in addition, of course, our president drew attention to the fact that the very architecture of international security was destroyed under the slogan that allegedly plants observe. and these agreements were precisely with the united states of america, it was the united states that consistently withdrew from those
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agreements, and as a result, the result was a reaction to these exits. this is, of course, the statement of the russian federation that russia suspends its participation in the cis therefore, in this case. please tell me natalia varevna. what does it mean in practice? here is the word suspension in fact, this is, uh, the first step for a full-fledged exit, but in fact, while the ladies are talking about suspension - this is it. uh, so throw a trial balloon and see the reaction and see. what is it all the same , is there any interest, what kind of reaction is there, if the interest is still to return to dialogue, because this is a call for dialogue and, in general, russia once again, and shows that she does not break any. kleene connections, because if we were to break the lines of communication, we would have announced, just much tougher options for events. the solution of these problems, and we would have announced the withdrawal, they are about suspension, but the problem of interpretation. again, how interprets is wrong. our western non-partners of the events in ukraine
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believe that it is worth it. so this is kiev well done. and this, respectively. they are well done , they interpret, they do not incorrectly make a logical error, not understanding that kiev worth it, because russia is conducting these military operations in such a way as not to inflict this maximum damage, which they are usually used to inflicting in general. they judge for themselves. uh, they judge by all the military companies that they themselves carried out. here alexey tell me, then the witness of recent events is collapsing, this term is strategic stability . hmm well, let's say i would use a different term, but there are cracks. yes, we still do not see that the facade of this phone is completely collapsed. but the crack is serious and we all understand that it will take a very serious effort to update this building this architecture. and, probably, after the end of this confrontation, because the architecture will already be different, vladimir putin said that
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the treaty on strategic offensive arms already lacks, at a minimum, britain and france nuclear powers. well , there is also china, we understand that there is also north korea and india and pakistan, that is, the new architecture should be more global and comprehensive. yes, if we are talking about a polar world, but so far even the united states is not ready to reckon with anyone other than itself, and in this is like a crisis, but the fact that they do not want to give anyone the right to decide something on the planet and russia in this sense is fighting, of course, defending this right for everyone else. well, for now, we will come to a new agreement. it may take a very long time. now this is an acute phase, and of course it is. long enough, until everything settles down, and until they understand that they will have to share rights with many in this world. but tell alexei here repeatedly and mr. lavrov spoke about this already crossed all the red lines already so level
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the escalation of the conflict is high, and yet russia claims. don't tease us. don't cross this line. do not force us to use what we would not like, and here are the statements about the suspension of participation in the cis agreement again. that is, again, this is such a signal. and if the west ignores him again, what methods then remain . hmm, well, you know, i'm here, maybe they will speak more subjectively, of course, russia shows amazing restraint and honor and praise to the leadership, realizing that this is the behavior for russia, any figures in this deadly tango with the west depend on the fate of the world. this is a very responsible kind of role. i understand how difficult the war is for the political leadership of russia to take certain retaliatory measures, but there are things that
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need to be defiantly responded to, for example, infrastructure terrorism, we hear many statements that yes, the united states is to blame, these are obvious actors. it is they who american journalists themselves are to blame for this. they say we hear certain loud words of a number of people, there dmitry anatolyevich yes, in his telegram and i understand how difficult it is to make a choice. what to answer, but the emir. and the people need to show the answer really, so that it is clear. that russia not only concentrates and thinks, but can also answer in this way. well, let it be asymmetrical. let it be pointwise, so that all the same in the west, they feel a clear threat to themselves. only this one will force you to start real negotiations. that's what they are just right now we have the opportunity to talk. timothy has
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a glove compartment. hello glad to see you our studios. hello hello colleagues. alexey natalya hello. you, too, when analyzing the interests involved in the current confrontation of the parties it seems that the easiest way for the west to give in is the russian compromise on ukraine will not bring any losses to the united states or the european union, except for partial reputational losses in the eyes. the same hawks of which in western societies. well, most then what's the catch? maybe we don't understand something for the west , something so grandiose is at stake, which makes the continuation of the confrontation the best choice. here. what is your opinion, because we would like to talk about the world, but honestly there are no prerequisites. you know, it seems to me that now in the west there is no understanding that the situation is dangerous, maybe they
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are right about something, because russia also does not say that the current situation poses a direct threat to russia here and now russia is saying the message of the presidency spoke about strategic threats, but the situation is far from the caribbean crisis. for example, when the united states directly threatened the soviet union each other's territories. that is, i do not think that now the perception of this crisis of this conflict is dramatic enough to make any concessions or negotiate. russia says that despite the supply of weapons, it will. this matter will be brought to an end. despite the supply of western weapons, and in principle in the west, can this be considered as such an invitation? well, we are fighting, and we are fighting to the last ukrainian, and then we will see. why give in? why negotiate if
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are fighting, and here, by the way, timofey i think many international workers. go lisa by the movements and meetings of mr. wang, and in recent days there has been a lot of talk that in the current crisis, china has finally made its choice and is ready to move on to more active support of russia, as far as you think. from what we understand as more active support to russia at all levels throughout the year , it has been repeatedly confirmed that the chinese russian strategic partnership is strong, like the rock as mr. ivan defined and, in in principle, no one in russia has had any questions about this over the past year. well, we are completely satisfied with the positions that our chinese friends occupy. they consistently call for peace, which is right and they will follow. well, point to who is
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the main culprit of the european crisis. and who should? negotiate who should stop supplying the kiev regime with weapons and thereby more and more deaths of the people of ukraine, so i don’t think that china, we can say that chinese position. somehow it has changed, it has remained consistent throughout the past year, and russia is quite happy with this. well, i can’t help but ask, in your opinion, at what other points should we expect? escalation of confrontation between russia and the west that it could be africa syria venezuela or ukraine will take so much power from moscow that in other places russia will avoid any confrontation? you argue in some interesting way, as if in russia you are the initiator of confrontation, i think i dream of your wrong position nadezhda russia nowhere would it ever be wrong. russia
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has never been the initiator of a confrontation anywhere, not in syria, not in africa, not in ukraine, in fact. this smell was the initiator of the confrontation , therefore, from russia. what does it mean that russia has no strength ? russia provides its basic interests and values, and where the westerners will do bad things to us, russia will respond. they may well try to spread it. uh, radical islamic terrorism in central asia now they have a lot of experience isis members are kept under their wing in order to be thrown into the central asian regions. and there they may well try to do something bad there. well, i think that russia with the european allies in central asia , first of all, uzbekistan so far, these problems have been solved. maybe they are trying to spoil something in the south caucasus there, the murky position of the armenian leadership greatly contributes to this and the behavior of azerbaijan, which clearly makes its choice not in favor of russia, and
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russia itself, you are mistaken. she never initiates any conflicts timofey thank you for your answers this year, there were a lot of hot spots, rather such kegs that are powder, which the west could easily ignite even the situation with kosovo , again, serbia for the russian federation is a very important historically , first of all, an actor in international relations and it was also impossible to ignore, but if the west has such a desire, or now the situation with the same taiwan and this is the main fight, which i think, we have yet to see and forces the united states of america to concentrate exclusively on the situation around ukraine is a very interesting question. for the simple reason that strategically, if we look at the main documents of the united states of america, then, of course, they are focused on the pacific
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regions, and like the british, they consider the indo-pacific region as the main one for their claims in order to confirm their global leadership, but very interesting approach. but the fact is that access to the endo-pacific region is possible from different directions, but for the united states it is possible. in general, immediately on the sides for the british, for example, for allies about the united states, it is possible, including through russia and, of course, in this case , e russian, but the large russian large space and certain flanks that russia still controls is the children's black sea, which allows you to go further, and, accordingly, on the one hand to the arctic on the other side of the middle east central asia caucasus and beyond, and up to the pacific region. this is just the key question, because so far there is, in general , such an entity as the russian federation that controls these main structural yes, the lines of movement, then, of course, claim that you will solve all your tasks, it is in the pacific
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region that titan will be in the lead. they are simply impossible. although we see this shift for this reason. i understand that the european front is this foothold. this is still a concomitant foothold and anti-russian rhetoric and russia’s tying up here is a cleansing, but for some specific manipulations for certain, uh, tactics that can be shown in the near future and this year , too, in this region, it’s no coincidence, the us and uk are evaluating our interaction with china from the point of view of that. how much does china invest in infrastructure in infrastructure projects, how well do we interact with it in central asia, e , what is china’s position on the caucasian issue on nagorno-karabakh, and so on and so on, that is, it is the lines of contact that are being considered and russia itself does not in this sense it is interesting but in that it does not cooperate with other strange ones. i'm within the eu and within the sco and within the brix, that's what the main thing, because it is a link and for
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this reason we should not take ukraine out of the context of the global one , consider it as a separate field of action. no, this is just one of the flanks. here is a great game. and these thresholds are only thresholds, and therefore we need to pay great attention to this now. because if we stop these cargoes here, they will not be distributed further and will not be. at least spread in such. so the key is, how could they, if we give in here, there will be no peace, russia will not be. thank you. aleksey, you watched, yes, certain meetings that took place on the russian side of the chinese side, as far as this indicates a certain new stage, and in the same relationship , the chinese should provide support if russia is needed, and again such vice versa. i would not like
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to say any inflated expectations or high-flown words that it is there, the alliance that has taken shape, and so on. the commonality of strategic interests is obvious. china is interested in a stable partner for north within stable borders in the supply of the same russian energy resources. naturally, it is mutually interested that there should also be a predictable partner on the southern eastern borders, while there is no ideological contradiction, there is a commonality of certain geopolitical strategic interests. well , there is a common enemy of competitors that brings them together. ah, but we all understand that the chinese strategic culture. she is not sharp, she will watch from the mountain. this means that the smart monkey is behind the way the tigers fight in the valley, and the task of russia in this if she demonstrates that everyone expects decisiveness from her, she will lead to victory, only this will incline all eastern partners to closer relations. although
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it can already be said now that one way or another, whether indirectly or directly, of course, china is rather playing on the russian e, on the russian field in favor of russia, this is help. uh, in m-m reorientation of energy flows. this is diplomatic support. this is, let's say , a decrease in tension on the borders of the eastern yes, when the russian army can send troops from the far east without fear that there is some a stab in the back, and all this is happening on the western front. well, i do not expect, here are some bright allied special effects there. yes, this will not happen. at least not to that extent yet. it is clear that russia wins unconditionally, because it always observes the east and makes a choice. well, probably at the last moment in favor of the obvious winner. this is what is really happening and, of course, the key partners for the russian federation, especially this year, within the framework
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of the union state, the republic of belarus has become and will take place in the near future and visit of the president of the republic of belarus to china in addition, of course, today we are talking about ukraine, we are talking about the fact that the peace initiatives have disappeared, and we hear only militant territory, but alexander lukashenko has always declared peace initiatives and is currently declaring at the moment let's hear a direct speech . do you want peace in ukraine let's start talking about peace tomorrow. and the guns will stop firing. but you don't want that. you do not want this, but you will jump to the point that the military will come to kiev and turn the head of the politician along with zelensky, the ukrainian military will come to kiev and put everyone in their place, because they are a meat grinder there, while you run around europe and, to applause, ask for some kind of fighter weapons and so on. you are the culprits
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of the escalation today, people are dying, about whom you said, let's stop this. let's do it all now. uh, there's no for that, you don't want that. and i won't even say. you europe is ready for this europe wants this. she knows that maybe the americans do not want this and tilted europe put her in a pose and do whatever they want with her. yes , absolutely fair speech the fact is that there are certain so-called diressants of the ukrainian conflict who receive a certain profit, and in general, the conflict is perceived as a double game on the one hand. we fight against competitors, but on the other hand. we approve some of our strategic line. the same poles have always wanted to declare themselves as such main, almost different partners for great britain, the usa inside nato. they really want to play this card, plus more historical ambition. and here is such
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an opportunity to show all these desires, your aspirations and show yourself how militantly, studying a nation that is capable of setting a task. to fulfill them again under the guise of some big son-in-law, therefore, in this case, the same strange thing is being played again in the baltic states. the same game , that is, we are so significant, we are so important within nato within the european union. we are an outpost with this fight against the supposedly barbaric. peace directed against democracy, we defend democracy, and the same theme sounds in ukraine that a democratic country itself is fighting against an authoritarian authoritarian country, and in general, against everyone, and the so-called autocracies, this is the same rhetoric, but what is it, then there is, in fact, it turns out that politicians do things that are determined for themselves, which means they get preferences, while you present yourself in this perspective as cool leaders. yes, in fact, which means that the block of
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the military-industrial complex receives money opportunities, but for production, but again, some kind of complex is american and partly british, all the rest, in general, are on the sidelines, but, because they must supply their equipment now, and then again order americans some kind of military equipment in order to make up for those, and deliveries those who did not carry out this game are directed from washington to start it there and in general, it will apparently have to be finished there by the only people who could stop this conflict today. these were ukrainians who would come out only with slogans not militant, but peace, but such they don’t have the opportunity at the moment, because the only channel is the only rhetoric. and those who can only lift their head right away on the same head and beat alexey let's make the final word today's program will sound from yours. you know i will continue. here is your thought, i am still convinced
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that there is an inner strength of the internal ukrainian people, a strength aimed at friendship and our united family, you are definitely slavic, to be together. yes, uh, there are military methods, there are diplomatic methods, but it should probably some kind of spiritual transformation will happen, it will definitely happen, because we are all people, but of the same faith, and i am sure that this is our faith. as a result, it will save us at the end of our extremely interesting conversation. i would like to quote paragraphs from a recent interview with a russian international specialist and a regular participant in the discussion in our program, fyodor lukyanov, in all respects. ukraine has turned into a kind of training ground, if you will, a construction site where a new international hierarchy is being built, and this is no one else. hides, but such a process obviously long and stubborn, so
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guessing in time perspectives is almost useless. this is important to understand the question is not in ukraine, but in what kind of new system of international relations should be and who will command it. and if so, then nothing will end quickly, it’s easier to get used to it and save your nerves and your loved ones, thank you. well, now i am authorized to declare. the conflict in ukraine is only a manifestation of the struggle for the word of american hegemony in the world golovans, how
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