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hello, on the air, the program, say, do not be silent in the studio , victoria popova and tatyana shcherbina and natalya kachanova is our guest today good afternoon natalya ivanovna, we are glad to see you such a festive day in our studio. thank you very much for coming and the first question, because on march 8 we ask if you like this holiday in principle. i think that every woman really loves this holiday, because it's spring and we all understand

perfectly well that winter has passed. finally. we waited for spring and we have a beautiful a couple of years spring or this, therefore, of course, love like any woman. i think about my favorite flowers. you have my favorite flowers. these are chrysanthemums. although i love all flowers. it's true, probably, like any woman. yes, a woman loves flowers. you have come a long and, let’s say, not easy, labor path from a water supply canal to the chairman of the council of the republic, while uh, well, you didn’t have any influential relatives or friends who could move you up the career ladder, does this mean that the social lift in belarus works and success can achieve any person who is not lazy toiling. you know, i have thought about this a lot and often say that it is true. you just need to be responsible for your business, which you are doing, and you will undoubtedly succeed. and you know i never. actually, i didn’t think about a career. to be honest, i always felt comfortable working where i worked, but it also happened that at some stage

you were noticed and offered new growth steps for your growth. and you know, i really love being persuaded, so, well, i tried to make those decisions. although they were always very difficult for me. it's true, because, well, somehow it wasn't in mine. uh life of what i wanted to do some kind of career. it seemed to me that it was necessary to carry out only honest responsibility for your business, which you are engaged in, but now i 'm sure, just any person who is honest about his duties, who, uh, wants to do something better for his country for his people . these are not high-flown words at all. these are normal words who love people. uh, can reach in our country. eh, everything that he dreams of and even when he does not dream, but he is very responsible in this matter. he may, for himself , solve very important issues in his career growth, but you grew up in a simple family. yes

, there were no officials among your relatives there, in general, absolutely absolutely. i just have a family, my mother and father are workers , my mother worked at a garment factory. she worked all her life in a garment factory. dad worked, then there was such an agricultural equipment factory, where he was a foreman. kuznetsov is a very hard work. hard hard work and that's why i didn't have any grandparents, that's why, of course, this is such an ordinary, simple , working family, very good , i remember a lot from my childhood and that house and yard, in which, as a matter of fact, i now have it there my apartment is small. i grew up, i love my city very much, i love it immensely, the city of polotsk, my small homeland. uh, i remember a lot of what my parents told me about. uh, i loved my family very much and love, and we are very friendly actually. oh, and, of course, those friends who were in

childhood, i often remember, you know, the older you get, the more often you remember, but childhood and these such joyful moments that warmed you warmed your soul. although a is a completely different childhood than now from children, and now you maintain some kind of relationship with them. maybe, you know. then, when i come home , uh, and i visit polotsk and of course, well, you come, uh, to your apartment, and, unfortunately, there are not so many neighbors left with whom we lived but eat and with great pleasure always meet and they talk about what happened. eh, what events happened eh, but it warms the soul very much. in fact, maybe your parents gave you advice recommendations. that's when in childhood you know, uh, i still uh, always talk to you with my grandson. now , very often, mom always told me, so she will set us all up in the family, she said. eh, even if people do bad things to you, you always do good to them, never. don't take someone else. here

it was, we just had such instructions parents. and i often said to us, only, please, never swear with anyone. i thought to myself when i got older and worked. well, she has already occupied such fairly serious positions, where it’s easy. well, not that you swear, but because there are such impartial things that have to be said. i think you would know, my mommy, dear, how difficult it is sometimes, but in fact i really have parents very, uh, modest, not conflict. i don't remember any conflicts between them. work of their work colleagues. i only know my mother. until now, every time i congratulate her on all the holidays. and in general, i'm proud of my parents, proud of my family, because they raised us right. you dreamed as a child. as we know to be a kindergarten teacher, but eventually graduated from the faculty of industrial and civil engineering of the polytechnic

institute. why did they change the dream? yes, already, probably, many people know that she really dreamed of being a teacher all her life, moreover, in a preschool queues. i love children immensely. this is what i have, uh, all my life in me, any child, no matter what it is for me. holy and i thought that i should do just that, but then when i was finishing school, u, you know, everything used to be so somewhat different. we had friends, odnoklassniki and hmm when we were the older brother. he then he was a soldier with me at that time , now he is already a pensioner. uh, he was on vacation. he says, well, that's what you're going to do somewhere. there is a good institute in novopolotsk. maybe come here just right at home. well, it so happened that a friend with whom we were in class and still. we are friends. somehow they made such a decision together, but besides, they also

went in for sports, like all children at that time. as a matter of fact, in any case, many here are just a teacher of physical education, at that time she was a teacher. in college, girls. let's go to the institute anyway. we have a good institution. this is how the decision was made. as a matter of fact, you know, there was probably no such thing then. career guidance, which is now in schools when children are told more about some profession, and some specialty, well, that's how it happened, but then, of course, i did not regret it. anyway, we insisted on higher education. right. at that time, i still wanted the parents to get their children educated. but something like this. well, you know, back then it was a little easier actually, because we are from the class. here is a higher educational institution entered, then it is probably a person, four or five in total, that is, not so many took a somewhat simpler attitude to this. well, probably, after all. this is the feeling, you know, i have responsibility and for a long time before those with whom you communicate as friends. so then here it

is. well, youth bravado. such, perhaps, and here is a friend. let's try. well, let's try, here we tried to do it. to do this, you need to have both a technical mindset and the corresponding abilities. you know, yes, this is the polytechnic university, of course, this is higher mathematics. this is chemistry - this is sopromat theoretical mechanics. i probably, maybe, the warehouse was more humanitarian after all, it seemed to me, but in fact it was not difficult for me, but maybe the first course is still here. so you came in, and to be honest, i didn’t really understand right away . , which you will deal with in life, well, it was interesting to study . you are an excellent student at school. i was not an excellent student. i was such a good girl. eh, that's what concerns the institute from the second

year. i have already received a scholarship. here is the first course. you know somehow i'm still i honestly tell you, i came the first day. uh, home from college. i'm a mask. you know, i probably won't go there again. actually, mom you, right? to which my mother told me that you are the first everywhere it’s hard at first and it’s hard at work and you have to get used to it and everything will be fine. mom, as always, it turned out to be right for several years you worked in polotsk city ​​executive committee, and then already headed, novopolotsk, where they worked for a considerable period of time from 2007 to 2014, and during the years of your chairmanship , the reconstruction of novopolotsk began. the refinery was technically re-equipped with the joining of the naftan polymer plant , the construction of two e, new microdistricts of the city and their infrastructure was completed. during your time, the construction of a new city registry office was completed; the opening of a new museum of history and culture was initiated ; the maternity hospital was modernized;

in the republic, a city that received the title of child-friendly city and one of the first republics in which the youth parliament began to operate. at the city council of deputies, well done not that much has been done very much. and what is the achievement? you would especially highlight what you are proud of, to be honest, to say, here is some kind of achievement that i would be immensely proud of, but, but it can probably be difficult to single out. although, probably, the fact that i have two daughters and grandchildren and a family is very important. this has always been a support to me, of course, in my work, no doubt. but if we talk about what has been done during my work, either i worked in polotsk in vodokanal , or in the city of polotsk as a deputy chairman for the construction of housing and communal services, or later in the city of novopolotsk . was actually done, but here, for example, e. i am proud to say that in 2002, when

even zhinki were held in the city of polotsk, i had to take an active part in the preparation of the city, and then our city of polotsk shone in a new way. it seems to me that this was the second birthday of the city of our strip, which became recognizable, which became interesting. such a tourist center in our country and i always take great pleasure. eh, i remember those years, because really. it was such an exciting job. we worked. it’s just that it’s republican dozhinki, and the ecological forum is the day of writing in the city of polotsk, all these events allowed my hometown to shine in a different way, i can say the same about the city of novopolosk, because i came, just on the eve of my fiftieth birthday in 2007, when i came to work in the city. e novopolotsk and in 2008 we celebrated the fiftieth anniversary of this city. and you are right about the museum. you know, i am so deeply immersed in the history of this city. eh, i fell in love with him when

i was appointed to the post of chairman of the city of novopolotsk. i rode on the same floor and thought, uh, lord, let me love this city. and i would love immensely, then this period of my work. well, that's all. interestingly, everything is dear to the heart. yes, all with heart. this really think for a long time, when you are offered some new stage in your career. here is the position of deputy prime minister. how did you react to think for a long time, no matter how hard it was, in fact, but it was hard not because i was afraid of work and some kind of completely unknown new stage in my life for me. it's true, because, well, you can imagine you work all the time and live in the region, and you work, well, as a deputy chairman of the executive committee chairman. well, you are there at home on the spot and suddenly to move to the city of minsk for me the most the painful thing was that i had to leave my hometown. this was very painful for me. well, of course, you think about

it, but i will repeat it again. i can't. if you have trust and thought that you are needed there, since you have already come to serve in the public service, you must serve your own. not to his fatherland, to his people. and if you were trusted by the president but how can you say no and i can't do everything you can to justify this trust high trust so of course believe it given, of course, everything is not easy, because like any reasonable person. you worry and you worry enough. seriously. well, your work has been noticed here. i 'll clarify, yes, that is, how well you work, polotsky shone polotsk , move on. you were in minsk when i just came to work in the city, minsk was such a big press conference meeting with journalists and the president of our country alexander grigorievich was asked this question like you are, and i just came back then , to which he absolutely rightly said that

says, i didn’t know her at all, in general, in principle, because i was appointed to the mayor of the city of novopolotsk. this is then this is the personnel day, when the president approves you and moreover, after that, here are 7 years of my work. alexander grigorievich and i never met like that. well, at some events, such as a seminar of meetings, where everything was a russian national assembly, among others. when you are a participant in these events, but there is no such personal contact. i had absolutely no. and so when i was invited to the presidential administration and at first we talked, just asked about my plans. i say, well, i have such plans that are connected with my homeland and with a small homeland. i am ready to work there as long as necessary, but when they said that a decision was made, you still need to move to work in the city, minsk. well, i had to move and had to make this decision in order to work here already in the city of minsk for more

a high level a significantly high level and, of course, i always have everything that worries me - this is the main thing so that i don’t let me down nobody. eh, that's justified, the trust that i was given. you asked then , lord, help us. you see that i have always treated minsk in a special way about minsk, it is our capital. this is the main city in our country, eh, but now, of course, i am deeply loaded, and in what is happening in the city of minsk, because you know, i am the presidential representative for the city of minsk , so uh, absolutely everything concerns me here and therefore, of course, i love the city of minsk i love minskers and i am proud that i am also here brought together, and i can also work here in order to do something useful for the city of minsk well, your image. e, already established, well-established, such a strong, strong-willed woman, but at the same time, e is humane and fair, which is also important, how you

manage to combine these qualities and i don’t really share these terms in relation to a woman, because, of course, e. well, everyone's life is different. but what i am, is very fond of people and to people. what is always kind is the absolute truth, and strength gives you. uh, making some decisions or the fulfillment of those tasks that are in front of you is precisely this responsible attitude to business. that's all, nothing more, but in fact i am an ordinary person, like all other women, but i have one quality. i am a hyper responsible person and i love people very much. it is true that the first, when we make inquiries about you, our fellow journalists, they say that he loves children very much, the second loves people very much and the third is the leader of direct action. that is, they see you. so well no questions you can't solve natalya ivanovna this is your signature style handwriting. i believe that if you have taken the backlog, you should bring it to its logical conclusion. well, not really,

everything is not always given. it's uh, there are those moments. you know, for example, i am very upset that you cannot help, for example, people who are contacted a lot on issues of the judicial system. and then, when the courts have already passed, and then, when you see. everything is also considered at all levels and to help a person. you just can't anymore, because, well, everything is done absolutely right here. there are such questions, of course, there are questions that cannot be solved today, because, well, they are not regulated by law somewhere, but i really want to help a person. and, of course, in this case, but i was so lucky in life that i can turn to the president of our country, alexander grigovich. he is always very keenly interested in how the council of the republic works. what questions do you get? what problems do we have and therefore i can always convey alexander grigoryevich somewhere. you know you are very kind to people. and so, of course, then

when you can, uh, convey some decisions to the president of our country, and he absolutely always takes them very honestly and fairly. well, it's worth a lot , and therefore, probably, maybe, that's why many more people turn to you and try to solve their problems effectively, but on the other hand. you're right. you know, absolutely. sometimes you don't even need any, sometimes it happens. these are some serious decisions. you just need to listen to the person. you need to listen to him so that he leaves you satisfied in terms of the fact that you are with them reacted kindly, because you know to come to a person for an appointment with an official, there is around a driver of any wound. this is also a problem for him and a person is always not just given. and so you must always put yourself in the place of the one who is in front of you, then you will understand that, probably, he did not just come here. of course, i

meet with leaders of various levels with our colleagues many times. i always say, well , listen, if we are each in our place. that will help, then the result will not be certain. and we have everything for this in the country. and now we will interrupt for a while, i remind you. we have a telegram channel. say don't be silent. subscribe ask questions and suggest guests we are in touch. culture history architecture in all this is collected by the uad project in the nineteenth plant in the role of a man, of course, especially the number one acceleration to this legend. this part of the topping yakim has been toiling for hundreds of years, and nowadays

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often say that the most important thing in the work of a leader is to meet people, talk to them, discuss everything with them. how do you manage to build a dialogue with those who listen to you sometimes do not want to. if you mean the ones that come to the receptions, that's one story. of course, you need to be patient and listen to the person. even if he is trying there not to let you say something, but who does not want to listen, if taken as a whole by and large, but you know, you still need to speak , they will hear, because, of course, otherwise , a whoever tells the truth must tell the real truth, which there are legends already circulating in the city of minsk about how long you can receive citizens until 11-12 o’clock your work is going on. this is sometimes with er, during personal receptions a recent personal reception lasted almost 12 hours, so here we are interested in the question. uh. why do you, well, with your status have to solve even the

smallest issues. this means that they are finalizing our officials on the ground, or again, the question is your meticulousness. here in this you know, but first of all. i want to say that in general, uh, work with people and the way we have lined up in our country. this is a very good form of communication with our people. this is the first second well, in my opinion, our country can actually be proud of this, because we have a law on citizens' appeals. and wherever you work. in what position , starting from the heads of the enterprise? and you must simply work with people, listening to their suggestions, opinions, complaints, wishes. but now, when i am in the rank of chairman, the council of the republic. great members of the site of the republic, we are required by law to have a private reception once a month. well, we have to do it. and therefore, of course, when we announce a reception on personal questions people write down

quite a lot of people come with the questions that concern them. oh yes, there are those with whom they have already contacted various authorities and no assistance has been provided, but to a greater extent this is what it is about. i said a little earlier that these are such court decisions, where it is already difficult to help with something in reality. although we are trying again there with the attorney general-tours with the supreme court, which without exerting any pressure, because we do not have the right to do this, but in any case case, then ask. look at this thing again. or, for example, they ask. well, i would like to meet with the enterprise of the supreme court, if a person in a conversation always asks very much and valentin olegovich and andrei ivanovich they, uh, they always respond, they say, of course. we will meet , we will look again, but in fact people come, but you won’t be at 5 o’clock and you closed the door and left. no, of course, you have to accept as long as there are

people who are ready to turn to you with your admission question. well what's the question transferring the fence on the site, this can be decided in the district executive committee there or to you. and you know there are different questions, there are absolutely different questions. there are, of course, those who, uh, you see, they don’t want to eat such things and explain and explain already, to those. uh, the republican governing bodies that deal with these issues, for example, the state property committee, where they clearly say that there is no need to do it. so, well, it seems to a person that there is not. still. i am right and they are wrong. and so, of course, sometimes you have to, not once meet. there are such cases. well understand what to do? uh, after all, uh, then uh, how do we organize this work? i will repeat again. and we don't have to power. we should not be here on such issues somewhere. uh, well, to show my incompetence or unwillingness to work, so i, uh, work

for sure, and so do all my other colleagues. i accept people meet with them in this, there is nothing special in 2020 after the elections. we remember these times quite difficult. you held many meetings and met with students and in labor collectives, too, and held meetings with many of those, uh, with whom you communicated then were hostile. and well, not everyone, not even every man, would risk going out to these people. you went out and talked, and you came without security guards and you were on your knees. we remember that there are crowds here. we stood at the very building, and many questions asked me to ask our colleagues, you are not afraid. no, never, uh, but i was not scared, first of all, because i understood that this is our country, these are our people and nothing bad can happen, therefore, i went openly and always go to collectives, i'm absolutely not afraid of anything. i am absolutely

not afraid of anything, because, well, i am sure, simply that our belarusians, our compatriots , the people who live in our belarus are kind, absolutely peaceful people. but there was misunderstanding, yes, there was, of course, and i had to talk for a long time with the young guys, who, at the meeting at bsu, we talked with them for quite a long time for 4 hours. but there i saw just like that, but there was some kind of wall between us, which was not so easy to overcome, because they were just here somehow wound up by someone and something. well, in any case, then the conversation nevertheless moved to another plane, and we are already at the end. uh, those who remained, the guys came up to me, they asked questions. we discussed these issues. i've never been scared, and i'm just sure that's how it should be. i just saw, uh, one videotape of you talking at one of the polling stations. and so i drew

attention to the fact that you convey to people, only facts, only what is really happening and people are really from the very beginning they took everything with hostility, but you quite calmly tell it all, and it was clear that after just a few minutes this foam subsided and people listened and already this aggression began to go away, but you are right, because you know when you you tell the truth and when you say it, confident and you're sure of what you 're talking about, of course people see it and it's confusing for some. i'll tell you sincerely, because i'm counting on the fact that here they'll shout and stomp their feet. no, and you can you answer? no, you are talking about things that actually take place , and it’s hard to lead me astray. especially when i see that it's not fair, that it's not fair, that it's wrong. eh, i am

very tough in defending my point of view and my position. and then you understood what changes those want, uh, in the classrooms there are students or there are absolutely none here, moreover, i'll tell you. not only did i not understand what kind of changes they wanted, but i didn’t hear any constructiveness in the conversation. now, if you communicate with these people, after all you are talking about the twentieth year when it was already after the election campaign. and before that, when only that kind of view of this whole story, but i met a lot with all sorts of people and asked to gather those who were opposed to the authorities and met with them both in pitt and in baranovichi other cities. countries and i have never heard any constructive opinion or proposal. what is wrong with our country. i always said okay? you say that bad and were specific. it's impossible to get a job

work. for example, in pinsk they sounded like you know it's impossible to get a job. it's so difficult for us here. and right after that i was at the enterprise, pinskdrev , where i met with the team. and where do they tell me that such a salary is good. that's how many vacancies we have, please. we are waiting for people, let them come. let them settle down. and you understand that it's not just the inability to find a job, but not the desire to work in general. well, or just somehow influence the government. i then understood for sure that it was all built in order to here's how to somehow discredit the government of our country and ruin our country. here, uh, it could not be perceived differently then , and i clearly understood this. well, besides, after all, we analyzed everything that happened. and they saw, yes, maybe, this is a covid situation that immediately shocked people a little, but no one knew how this situation would unfold. although we clearly understood what needed to be done, because president alexander grigoryevich is

the wisest person. he spoke absolutely the right thing. and the way we did and how we solved these problems, it gave its result, and today all countries are working in this direction. but, as far as meetings with people were concerned, we were telling the absolute truth. i haven't heard anything constructive from them. you see, if they had said, well, name specifically in which industry what is bad, that nothing of the kind needs to be changed today, but it didn’t sound to me at these meetings. unless someone there spoke about the belarusian language, but listen, we have two state languages ​​russian belarusian. no one bothers anyone to speak in the belarusian language, please, and therefore, unfortunately. there was no such thing, there were no constructive proposals that i would have heard, but the government itself has changed. here after the twentieth year. what do you think was the experience? here's an experience for that. yes, of course, well, how

it has changed. we probably stayed. uh, each of us, as a person, as a person, remained the same as he was, and it’s another matter that we reassessed who is nearby in a different way. with you who is really, after all, you understand in this situation. i'll tell you so. i have always been with these people. well, yes, there probably are such people, but i understood that they simply do not have their own core in life. and i felt sorry for them. they are sorry. that's when you feel sorry for a person, but it's just a pity, because, well, the weaker one is more. yes, as here it’s not even so weak more. and how uh, well people who uh, well, nothing. they don’t represent this life . you see, when you have a core, when you understand what you live for, then, of course you'll never go. not against my people, not against my country, moreover, i will repeat once again, these

are the tasks that the president sets before us, wherever i work, starting from there, vodokanal in polotsk, i always knew that e in our country cares about people. you see, people care. yes, maybe then it was still the initial stages, these are the former soviet union e. the union collapsed. it was hard and difficult for us. but when we began to live in our non-sovereign independent country. i saw i think, well, where else can this be be that a person can come to any state body to ask questions to ask. eh, you are fully responsible for this. and i clearly understood this , working as a deputy chairman , chairman of the executive committee. how do you solve the problems with which people will come to you and those questions and i thought, my god. well, how bad is it? that's what's bad in our country for people. e, there is work to study, perhaps to eat social guarantees people have e, yes,

maybe not what we would like, but based on what we have today in our country and with the economy, which consists of those natural resources. and the fact that we have and the path we took after the collapse of the soviet union is absolutely correct, the decisions made by the president are absolutely correct in building a development strategy for our country. and today this result was extremely incomprehensible to me. why? what motivated people, and not those who, uh, uh, plowed the land and milked cows on farms, not those, but those who are fairly well off, who live in good apartments, have prosperity, if you ask me natalion. what is wrong? i will say this social dependency. we often come back to the fact that really nothing is not bad. and these are the privileges that the state gives, it slightly dulls the connection with reality in people, and therefore,

to think that the state has always gotten to me. maybe you're right. and you can say it more. i understand this very well for myself, too, but for me. i 'm saying it again, why when you have your core like this inside and you understand that uh only the state gives you some guarantees, and everything else depends on you. you cited as an example a pussy where you communicated with people, where they could get settled, and we also remember our guest login there , tatiana, who opened it. e recently in minsk, wonderful at the end of 100 and all with their own efforts, skill and work with the same biography as yours, and which of us had every chance to become such a woman, nevertheless , opponents in those days, yes, and now they continue to pour out there is a lot of negativity at your address. eh, and often poured, but outright lies and fakes, let's not hide it, you managed to build a kind of barrier and

not react. here are these attacks. you know, it wasn't just then that it is and now, uh, i mean, it doesn't stop, really, but you know in general. uh, that's when you asked me about my life about my childhood. i am the kind of person who e fiercely hates injustice. for me, that was the scariest thing. that's when i was an older child, because my mother told me a lot about the war, and she lived as a child here in the occupation, and she talked a lot, and for me, this sense of justice has always been my main thing for me, and when it seemed to me that i would never survive if something was not true. said about me. here i had it , you know, be afraid of your thoughts. this is exactly when i had to become more of a person who began to be recognized. well, when you become public, yes, then you understand that this is inevitable. it's inevitable that everyone can't

speak well of you, and that's why, of course, now i already have one absolute protection. i absolutely do not react to it. i will sincerely tell you. i just don't want to read this and even my colleagues. if someone gives me some information, then i say, you know, you better not show it to me, because i don’t want to. i know who i am who knows me, he knows me and i will do honest responsibility for my work as long as i am alive, and if my help is needed, the state will need it , people will need it will be the president of our country. i will work until the last day of my life. it's true, and as far as i can, of course, everything else is not and you know, and of course. i would like to advise people to do this, because you know you won’t. you are never good to everyone and under no circumstances, but you must clearly follow what gives results , what you know is absolutely right and this is how it should be done, so there is such

today. yes, i don’t perceive it so painfully anymore and i try not to perceive it as a whole, because, of course, if this criticism comes from my colleagues, or well, i see somewhere that i did something wrong, of course, attacks are included, if it is constructive criticism, you know, i always take it with great joy. i always say no . tell the truth better. i always try to tell the truth, so it's easier for me to act. but for sure i would say so in relation to myself to my colleagues. you can explain, you can prove if they are wrong, i will always agree with you, but if i am right, then, of course, i defend my point of view. in fact, have you already mentioned that your brother is in the military? ah, have you discussed with him and his and in general your relationship, he is already a pensioner. and not only my brother. he lives in russia with me and a nephew. this is his son. eh, too. a military man also justified in retirement,

because he was seriously injured. he has the order of courage for my nephews and we are proud. and i'm really proud of my family. i have a very good family. we are a simple simple family, but very honest hardworking. uh, and most importantly, in our family. you know when these events took place in the twentieth year, because people perceived it differently. yes families sometimes divided somebody. eh, that's so someone for power. some people don't mind. we didn't have that. we all knew together that this is our country and discussing these issues that are now happening to me and my brother has always been an example for us in the family, when he entered the military school. he was older than me. we were very proud. at that time, well, a soldier of a military school, of course, and, uh, mom always set him as an example to us with her younger brother , so we were such an example for us in life, but he understands everything very well and

we share what fascism is, what nazism is and what is raising its head today and there are such encroachments in other countries, of course, we are painfully experiencing this, therefore, the honor is duty and conscience, we all have a family brother, so you can’t turn our way, and we, of course, are very proud of that that we are all together and our thoughts, our thoughts are one, and even when in the twentieth year. this is what happened. we also felt it ourselves. we understood that someone was afraid, someone was afraid to communicate with you, but my brother always wrote to me, called and said, we are together, everything will always be fine great yes always now we will break briefly after a short pause and return to this studio again, while subscribe to our telegram channel channel. say be quiet, and look for all our releases on the youtube channel, belarus alone and on the website of the bell tv and radio company. we

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tv channel belarus 24. on the air again, say, do not be silent, and our guest is the chairman of the council of the republic natalya kachanova, we stopped natalya ivanovna on the fact that your human ties have not been lost in the investigation of the twentieth year and family ones have not collapsed by now either, but e personal sanctions were introduced, first one, then the second, then another, and yet your way of life somehow changed as a result. these are the absolute ones, but they introduced them, i don’t see anything wrong with that. well, how is it? i believe that nothing in my life is for me changed, you know, i visited quite a lot of different countries in my time. and well, such a decision was made, so that's the way it should be. and how do

you feel about them in relation to yourself, of course, very calmly in fact, because well, what. you'll do it for now. so, as far as the country is concerned, it's very negative, of course, because it's unlawful. it is undeserved and it should not be that someone interferes in the internal affairs of your country. why is this simply unacceptable, and they don’t want to hear us. those who do not want to hear, and we we are cooperating with those countries that today are ready to solve constructively, and together with us the tasks that each country faces individually, including , of course, sanctions for our people. this is bad. and here's the thing. the trouble is that when, after all, these people who left our country are calling for sanctions against your country. who after all from this worse our people. after all, people suffer, people suffer from this. and why is this being done? this is your love for your country. this is your kind of love for your people. this is a lie, outright. lie

it's just making money, not in a foreign land for themselves, they clap something , of course, first of all, first of all, but the task that the head of state set, and we see how he is now actively, yes, and he is always working to look for e- uh our uh, points of interaction with other countries, how our president is perceived. and they are absolutely legitimate people. indeed, they did not feel these sanctions on themselves. if we say that by and large, of course , somewhere these logistics chains that were built were violated somewhere. certainly we have to work harder today on import substitution, but this task is not today. they were assigned a long time ago to work on import substitution and do everything so that we have everything of our own, so uh, unfortunately, there is such a thing, and uh, well, let it be on the conscience of those who make such decisions. and who initiates these decisions

regarding our country. well, yes, our country will find it. whom do you cooperate with the recent visit of the president to china, this also proves that there is. eh, also strange enough. uh, serious ones who are ready to cooperate with us natalya ivanovna here hmm a couple of years ago. eh, for the first time they heard a phrase from you, which then sounded from your lips repeatedly. i will be with the president until the end of my days, which you admire in alexander grigorievich, when i met with some opponents of our authorities, and they said that you have been working with the president for many, many years. i say no it's not true. it's only 8 years since i've been working here in the city of minsk in the republican governing bodies. and when i began to work as a vice-premier. e head administration. e, of course, understood and always appreciated the work of our leader. yes, it doesn't work. this life. you understand, this life is what a person lives for.

these years, creating this country bit by bit, but when i began to see everything nearby. how much this person is devoted to his people , devoted to his country, how much he loves every belarusian - this is true. you understand, and i saw me and realized that only with this leader the president. maybe the future of our country the president spoke, back in 1919, the geopolitical division of the world was going on, and we have now really seen it. i always understood that only such a wise politician is an experienced politician, which, uh, there is in our country, but i know, i also said i can tell you, you know, it’s probably our long-suffering belarus that god sent such a president who really truly appreciates his people his country and always does everything for the good of the people, and therefore, of course, i knew for sure that i would never turn off this path and eat. if i'm needed will. well, as leaders or just

a person who is in his life position. maybe to support our country , our state, our president? i will always be there, and your family, in particular, daughters and grandchildren. they are not jealous of you. e to work, at which you, as we have already heard and convinced yourself, burn now, because everyone is already old enough and you know , once my youngest daughter told me that my mother, i grew up without you. well, in terms of the fact that i came to work in a government agency. well, the executive committee of polotsk and then, when she was still in kindergarten, i didn’t have it, because it’s somewhere in the presidential administration in the council of the republic. i have a shorter working day or more free time. unfortunately, either i was the deputy chairman, or the chairmen of the executive committee of the time always somehow got nothing from her. no. yes, but you know no, they are very calm about the fact that i'm always busy, as it were, when it's a given, yes, for them it's

when it's a given, and they understand it all perfectly, but i say it again, i'm very grateful. i am for the support that they always give me in all. e, here in all periods of my formation and my life. they always supported me, and i was just immensely happy. what do you know this. well, this was some kind of year when i say the year of truth, when everyone looked at each other in a different way, at those who are next to you, at their family, at your friends, at your girlfriends, and you saw that yes. your family is really those people who understand you and like-minded people with you, definitely, and your spouse your how relates to your success. still, not every man is ready to be in the shadow of a famous wife. yes, it’s quite normal for me, the most difficult step for me was when i was unambiguously appointed deputy chairman of the polotsk city executive committee for the construction of housing and communal services , then i just sobbed for 2 weeks. it seemed to me that this would be the hardest work for me.