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not in belarus as a full member of the sco are held in an accelerated format. our country will acquire the status of a full participant . procedural nuances, belarusian initiatives were discussed today in the palace of independence . the president met with the secretary general of the shanghai cooperation organization, mr. secretary general. you know our goal uh, in order to legally become a full member of the organization, belarusians, certain legal procedures must be carried out. we must join. uh, to those the decisions that were taken earlier by the shanghai cooperation organization, we set ourselves an ambitious goal uh , go this way during this year before uh, the summit, uh, in the case of a fast paced serious pace but if you support us it will be a good experience for others, the more mr. or secretary, being an observer e
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, we were seriously preparing to join the shanghai cooperation organization, so we will definitely be able to meet the deadlines until june before the moment, as in business, uh, we will meet again in influential global organizations since 2015. our country in the status of observers, the historic decision to start the procedure for joining the sco in belarus was made last september in samarkand at the summit of the shanghai cooperation organization, taking into account the strategically important geographical position. our country will organically complement the structure of organizing speeches on transit, industrial and scientific potential, our experience in peacekeeping and multilateral diplomacy is important. trade turnover of belarus volgograd region russia last year grew by almost 50% and the end of this year.
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it can reach half a billion dollars, this is facilitated by cooperation projects in the industry, agriculture and logistics, taking into account the sanctions pressure of the west and the unstable situation on the border with ukraine, it is important for belarus to redirect cargo to iran india, asian countries and volgograd , an important transport hub, the creation of a hub for belarusian goods on its territory will simplify transportation process. in a third country also, volgograd today needs new electric transport, the city has already received the first batch of modern belarusian trolleybuses. another area of ​​cooperation is the construction industry. the volgograd side is implementing several large investors in belarus in belarus, a set of measures is being implemented to reduce the shortage of blue-collar workers . new qualifications can be acquired on the basis of specialized educational institutions , the duration of training depends help. as a result, everyone receives the documents of the state official for the assignment of qualifications. in the list of training more than 100 programs in all
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regions, a group is being formed. at the moment , we have 23 groups formed according to educational programs, and people are being trained or retrained. for example, we train citizens who are on parental leave and who previously had no profession. we also send such people for training and dynamics. here we have a positive one, and last year more than 80% was prepared under the order of the employer every year, a list of professions for training is compiled at the request of the unemployed and the needs of employers. the most popular in the construction sector, the service sector and industry , a new outpatient clinic was opened in the agro-town. priluki in the minsk region, primary care here will be provided by general practitioners and tera pediatric surgeon. in addition, there is a day hospital room for medical procedures, a dressing plaster mini-clinic is equipped with the necessary medical equipment. in particular. there is
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a modern dental complex the possibility of prosthetics an office with an ultrasound machine a physiotherapy unit in one shift in the outpatient clinic will receive more than 200 patients over time, the outpatient clinic will be redeveloped into a polyclinic, vitebsk has arrived the greatest shrine in belarus recreated, a copy of the euphrasian cross. not polotsk solemn meeting took place all this assumption cathedral. six-pointed cross. the ark with particles of orthodox shrines was made in the twelfth century by a striped jeweler with a laser of a god by order of the abbess of the convent of the spassky monastery and in russia in years of the great patriotic war, the artifact disappeared without a trace. an exact copy, the shrines would have been created by the belarusian master nikolai kuzmich. in the ninety-seventh year of the cresta of illumination . women's church of the polotsk savior of the euphrosian convent the relic is available for worship to all believers
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on the air, a weekly socio-political talk show on the merits in the studio kirill kazakov and alyona harsh today we will talk about forgiveness, farewell, decisions made regarding our compatriots who located abroad or within the country. we will discuss what worries our society, we will talk about modern commissars, who are not and they are in our studio. hello good evening. well, while we were preparing for this program, we discussed it.
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in what context to speak, so on a complex topic, you need to understand that yes, when the decision was made to create the commission of forgiveness, so called by the people, and you might think that attention was paid only to those who had, let's say, an alternative point of view and fled abroad. here is the criminal point view of this conversation avoided abroad, but afraid to return. if he is afraid to return, so, uh, there are reasons for this, but i would like to start by focusing on something else, that, in principle, in our society there are still those whom the president is called, hiding under the plinth hiding, and those people , which hmm in the twentieth year, which may not have had the courage, so i clearly speak about, but at the same time , they did not leave any such ideas and ideas in their own. they live by their hmm perception, and dislike for the fact that internal
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emigration is happening beautifully, yes, but at the same time, it seems like they mimicked the reality that exists today, but andrey has questions for you. why did we discuss andrey, we just discussed this question, who to ask? and i say, on august 9, well, yes, 2022, andrey makovich from the stage of the kupala theater said that everyone has time for you. strictly speaking, there must be a desire to find and neutralize. actually, that's why the question. well, my question is just about how easy it is to figure out such people and whether it is possible or they know this, they absolutely seamlessly entered our new reality. well, why, and now i have colleagues who, as it were, say such people. people are simply identified quite simply, to the point that hmm they tell their life stories or supposedly their life story, which in fact are people who stand
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in front of their eyes as friends. these are relatives or or these are invented characters, i don’t know. how to calculate yes, it's very simple for all business leaders. that's when i i speak there in front of people in the area, but in the field, what is called i say you are not too lazy, there is such a thing as a public page on facebook, it is public initially , what was cleaned is also visible, you can also see if a person does not have a record before, or rather, full records until a 20, yes, and then, as i know, a lot of people who demolished theirs on facebook, someone cleaned them by posts, and someone demolished a whole pack. there, just a dozen years disappears, but for many it still remains so, you are not too lazy. take a look at these pages. and if a person after 2 years, and will soon be three, if after 3 years such a person on the page above b i hate i won’t forgive
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, i walked, i walk and i will walk. and that's it, that's the position. you see, what a thing this position is for this person. i think that the path to culture, to education, should be ordered , in general, with the youth in public service in any way, even for the wrong crossing of the street. take me, for example, as a member of society, as a citizen. doesn't matter. how does society isolate itself from this kind of person with this kind of fundamental look, andrei, with such a radical , rather subjective opinion, is at stake for internal enemies. uh-huh you're the commissar in the foreign commission uh-huh question. here, how can you be objective there, or subjectivity, this is our everything in that position. wait a second. do not be confused, you asked a question about the hidden ones. you asked a question about technazal under the plinth sitting
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under a broom, there and so on and so forth commission, this is a commission on appeals to citizens who are abroad and who have committed offenses. what's not clear? listen, let's start with what could be alexey konstantinovich will correct me then. unless, of course, i am not savvy enough here in this commission, as the prosecutor general said, in principle , any citizen of belarus who is down a certain period from a certain period and for some reason, but believes that it is dangerous for him to return to the country, but he wants it to do so, the commission can check, so to speak, whether it will be clean. does he have questions? if so, which ones? you are right that the commission is not absolutely irreversible, then the application that comes from a citizen who
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is in the country, but the commission was created specifically to inform and resolve the issue of the return of those who are for those who are abroad, so i can immediately say those citizens who are here and will apply. they will also receive a competent qualified answer, but this answer will be narrow enough that they will have to be within the framework. the current legislation is natural to file an application, whether it will be a supervisory complaint, or whether it will be a statement about mm. some on some other issues, but the statement will still be concern the non-return and not the solution of the issue of their possibility of return, but the possibility of, e, the recognition of the commission of the fact that it is inappropriate to bring him to criminal liability. it's not about the ghoul. no, of course, of course, even the vector that is scheduled
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for returning from abroad is also out of the question, that all the citizens who turn to those who are there, uh, the era of a universal mission will come for them. well, look, when there was an interview with the prosecutor general immediately after the statement that this law had entered into force and the commission on youtube was ordered watched in poland a very large number. man, well, not really coming off, of course. case. why, because it was interesting. what mechanism, but after that, how many people spoke out, well, or wrote anonymously , not anonymously. we want our case to be looked at, because we are talking about the fact that some kind of such is being created there. it feels like no one will go, well, you won’t go anywhere, well, officially. how many have applied to the commission now 23 applications are under consideration 23 applications i will immediately say that the majority
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statements, it does not meet the criteria that are spelled out in the decree of topics. the directions of the information that are indicated so that they are presented, that is, the commission is informed about there, are clearly described. what are the requirements for applying e to these appeals. we give exist feedback. we inform the citizen that you please provide this information that is not available. submit missing documents. well , the very process of the commission’s work, for example, is it defined, or, of course, did it work , did it meet, or at least uh, previously, we are talking about some theory of how it will work , a meeting of the commission has not yet been held, because the material necessary to discuss this or that statement of appeal from, respectively, one or another candidate who wrote it, has not yet been accumulated. well, here we are, let's say, let's move on to what is probably
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to be soldered. i am sure that those people who will serve will appear, come here vladimirovna , we will connect with you a little later, while we finish the walls with questions, and with which we started our conversation, well, that is, people in any case, they will have to suffer, well, the punishment is responsible for the actions that they committed with me in connection with this, questions to you , alexei ivanovich, are lawyers ready to defend such our citizens. naturally, lawyers our main task, which is entrusted to us by the state, is to ensure the protection of the rights and legitimate interests of citizens. and, of course, lawyers will do their job in this direction. well, as for the commission, you know, i want to say that, probably, the purpose of this commission, as it seems to me, was creation there first words, pointing to yourself. you remember, it's, uh,
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social consensus. e, ensuring the rights and legitimate interests of belarusian citizens. it sounds like a decree, so i think it's probably the main goal. i think that this commission was just to achieve, uh, peace and harmony in our society, that is, to give an opportunity to people who, one way or another, ended up abroad for various reasons, who violated the law. perhaps they committed a crime had the opportunity to repent and turn to this a commission to the appropriate body in order to return to their homeland and continue here, so to speak, to work legally to achieve peace and harmony. i mean people who live outside of our country before it was announced in the creation of the commission. you have heard that you people have contacted, for example, a lawyer or lawyer abroad in order to check their legal status. well, i think that
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there were such cases, because, naturally, a person, being outside the motherland, he is some kind euphoria probably initially passes from them there and the help is over. you run out of money, it just ends and you need to live somehow, so uh, where you were born there and came in handy, as they say among our people, so i think there were cases when, of course, people were interested. uh, how to return to your homeland, but due to the following reasons, uh, criminal prosecution administrative prosecution, perhaps the impact of uh. due to the fact that they once committed, as i say, illegal actions. of course they are afraid. this also applies to our youth and of people. who is already so grown up? well, i think that the goal is the commission, why is there a composition? here we have such a different e, according to the members of the commission? i think just one of the goals is to achieve reconciliation in society. and in this
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way, let's say that there are some people who made a conscious choice and left. we remember, yes, those very stories when, well, they exaggerated these scarecrows and horror stories in order to get a better job there. well people who needed a push kick in order to change your life. i think that they don’t really want to come back here then, but it’s another matter, yes, those who were really subjected to emotional attacks by a psychological technique and hmm ran away, ran away frightened well, i think, yes, they have a chance to return, and they will be able to fully integrate into our society. i will return to the question that igor started with. what do you think, can we achieve this goal, which we say global peace and hmm, i agree in the belarusian society, and without creating, let's say the same commission within the country for
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those who are inside belarus well, no commissions of peace, in principle, reach agreement. it's a question. much more philosophical than the question of legal commission, it seems to me there is still what? i have not seen. unfortunately, in the work of the commission there, in the decree on the creation of the commission, which i personally really expected , i fully admit that this is such a subjective opinion. here, just the same clear mechanism, how the commission will work in my subjective opinion, while the work of the commission is am. well , it's not that i don't want to talk without systemic, but certain, but decisions for each specific person are made collectively. well, what are the decisions according to what rules? under which articles will leniency be allowed under which? no , this is still not clearly spelled out, respectively, the commission right now, in my opinion. this is wonderful amazing. better yet, perhaps there was no precedent. yes, that is, there was no meeting yet. yes, yes, there is a challenge for a minute, so as you said, let's, let's have a discussion. uh,
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you can’t write down the whole algorithm of the commission’s work, otherwise it would be a decree on and there are a hundred sheets, so as for the algorithm of work. i can add lena more hmm so that it doesn't happen. sorry, alyona, so as not to give the impression that i only said, but the applications received that do not meet the criteria. no, there were applications that do not fall within the competence at all, for example, against our extremists, when they filed an application, you work there, as a journalist, making a report in this way , there is also a statement with which you can work. and i think that for the foreseeable future, of course, specific. no, that means a meeting of the commission. we will discuss specific candidates and how much indulgence can be shown to them, as for the algorithm of the commission's work, a secret has been created. this is a worker. h,
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which consists of a fairly large number of prosecutors who systematize these statements, which are evaluated initially. so to speak. the first order is sent, the relevant requests to the competences and authorities, if it is known for sure that there is a criminal case, then it is required to study the criminal case. well and as for the completeness of informing citizens, then, of course, we understand that only on the website of the prosecutor's office, which contains the email address and the address of the prosecutor's office, not everything is visible from abroad, therefore, about the work of the commission's website, which is located on a secure internet resource, which from abroad, citizens will see and be able to contact moreover, at the initiative of the prosecutor's office, the ministry of foreign affairs has placed at all. at all our diplomatic missions and
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consular offices, europe is covered by the entire covered, the united states of america, turkey , georgia, there are also posted on the websites of diplomatic missions in the relevant information to help citizens, which describes, so to speak, what needs to be presented. look, the algorithm is hot. i understand your anxiety there, because in fact we journalists have to work with this and most of all we will have to work in order to explain. and why , because well, look, in fact, i, as journalists, explain to me your common concern with igor. you explain every time people, why yes, i'll just seriously tell you. look, really. i'm not opposed to collegiate meetings, but the commission, which decides whether this person can not come, but you and i began to talk about the fact that a subjective and fairly radical opinion, a torment waxer is subjective. yes, a rather radical opinion of an enlightened person, and
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yet more, uh, a legally substantiated opinion, for example, on the price index for vinchevskiy is correct. and here is how these two opinions will converge in the correctness of this decision, because relatively speaking, petrov passes, but ivanov does not pass. and why did they seem to have done the same thing, let's skip petrov? we will wrap ivanov and then we will explain it to you. i think the rules are clearly spelled out. here is for me. all clear. that's specific and clear. radical extremists. it's not their story, and this commission is unlikely to, uh, be able to somehow . i will now give an example. yure excuse me. here you are. i understand that, probably, over these 3 years you have already been bombarded with these examples. well, you were one of those one of the first who, but publicly said that, well, he was mistaken first very first. here
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we are not a radical, and now i even apologize to him for the fact that, in principle, i mention the moment in 3 years. we are already accustomed to the fact that, while yuri works for the good of our country. ah, here the point is that um those people we will be that a person can change their point of view right? here we will believe, and who doesn’t, so that you don’t get into a person, you understand, and this commission should work not only on emotions or on sympathies. here i liked ivanov. and petrovnas, there is a need for a clear mechanism, a registered representative, the relevant law enforcement agencies of the commission have a secretary from the commission that collects materials. these are clear legal ones. can i still say, after all, well , listen. well why don't we here we will. we
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are talking about the fact that there should also be sincere remorse, well, marina, here, i agree, but crap. publicly, in fact , absolutely radical positions, most likely, so it will be the president of our country. that's how he said these people should be cooler even i batik, that is, they should prove it. well, let's talk about the fact that radicalism on the right and on the left - it was. yes, in principle, we all perfectly understand with you that in part, but the radical patriots are also there, great. no , society suffers, so there should be no distortions here, of course, but even when they said, yes, that's when yuri gave his first interviews, even among a-a. not only
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are there a bunch of those who were on the other side, there are their statements among those who were on side of the authorities and did not change his position was a misunderstanding. why should we trust this person? why should we take this person into our ranks, and i'm sure yuri had to go a long way in order to prove this in principle, his work. well, probably, you could share your experience, including with those who have to go this way, because it seems to me that the horror story of just the same for many is precisely this very moment of adaptation, integration back , we will explain again, uh, all the difference uh, vector direction of the commission. yes, that is , for those who are inside, uh, the law has begun , the procedure is very simple. you go to the territorial police departments or you calmly tell them in depth, and they directly decide that you do not violate the law. yes absolutely,
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or measure measure applied statement, yo-mine. yes, that's why. the fact is that before the creation of this commission, many of us were approached. relatives yes, acquaintances of these people who are now abroad, therefore the authorities went to create such a procedure, so that everything is regulated, so that we live according to the law, as they like to say that there are few of them, according to your data, so , uh, these people who escaped, you mean, who they want to come to apply for, let's say so. uh, there are different numbers, there are different assessments, up to completely insane ones, which were given by the osce parliamentary assembly. uh, almost half a million billion there, yes, so today , dozens of people have applied to the commission, alexey konstantinovich said, but only 23 applications were taken into circulation,
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because they meet more or less the criteria of the commission and er. you understand those who laugh are sorting out the personal composition. well laugh through uh teeth. on the other hand, they must understand that it’s one thing for them who has a cheek and an illumined one, or both voskresensky and other members - it’s just an illumined flour carrier and voskresensky, and another thing with their civil position, and another thing is the members of the commission. we are different from them. we will make all our decisions based on the laws and the evidence base, without interweaving here your uh, yours included in this commissions. strictly speaking because of your civilian area. well, we understand now the task set is the task of consolidation. see. please tell me, that's actually people's creativity. especially those who well in
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show business. we recently discussed this topic with you and most of all blamed them for being emotionally susceptible. for example , some such creative impulse, sometimes. yes, they all here they ran. that's all , the whole kupalovsky theater once ran away, and then i want to return. for example, i know that that the kupala people who brought the applications were put on the table, then all of a sudden they suddenly realized that this was not a game. this is all for real, and they kind of want to return, and no one always understands how, but people like them will return, for example, they have the same well, in fact, there is no creative creativity. there was not there. excuse the naked calculation of those who led this rebellion and nonsense. impenetrable nonsense, for those who went 19 years old shines. yes, those who followed them. i remember very well the events that took place before that. i remember very well for example, the events of august 8 and concerts in support of the elections, and i remember very well how programs were pouring in from us, because some
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artists. they suddenly fell ill. it was a one-time fear. no, they will return. then they ended up not with us, but, let's say , every month at the minister's, receiving 2/3 of the citizens who make an appointment. these citizens are already visible by their last names, who come with a question. and what did i do, how to return and how to return she and us for what? well, the most about the simplest question. where are you after that? publicly announced a change in his civic position. can you state it, please do it somewhere in the minister's office, who will hear it? well , the press secretary will hear, well , the specialist will hear. let's not confuse our viewers now and not confuse the commission, which for the fugitives and those who come to the name inside the country can somehow be told, because there are a lot of conversations, almost the ministries there do not set the task of all forgiveness. believe me, they do. sorry if
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it's a stream from that stream. it’s good if one drop pours out, because the test for publicly stating your positions and the test about, and we have 24-25 years ahead, and you can go to such a concert, a very small number of people can withstand. well, as for the kupala members of the white freemen, the yacons called the council, then the current kupala members will accept them, there were 12 of them. now two respected people's artists have passed away. now, probably, out of the old composition of 10, olga valentina, accepted by tamara vasilyevna, was accepted, it is unlikely that they are on the same excuse. now just do not live and not because, well, do not exist together, because what you did not redeem in kittens, only revived it. sorry at first. castings and how this young first set came, and they were hounded in social networks. sorry, it is unlikely that someone will forgive our journalists now, colleagues will come back . can we accept , with regards to reconciliation in society, right now something continues to happen that, in general
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, is always normal for the situation that we experienced in 2020, the winning side, uh, decides what will happen to the losing side. it's perfectly normal. eh, it always happens, moreover, i'm even glad, since i obviously belong to the winning side, but there is some kind of subjective perception of the processes. and there is legislation. i'm a little bit. here is an example of article 328 distribution of drugs. and there is a law. and there is the right to apply the practice sometime 10-15 years ago such long terms under the drug article were not issued, then the time came when we were under attack. here's a big drug trafficking death in russia then it was decided that the terms were being increased for narcotic drugs. they became, well, let's say, i won't say abnormally large, but large where did the problem of the mother come from 3, 2 8, here is a slight negative, in general, some time has passed for myself and right now. in general, 3 2 8 are being eased, because the peak of the threat has passed
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, uh, back to 2020 and earlier we had unauthorized actions, but in 2020 in order to bring down such a criminal, radical impulse, revolutionary to people who go somewhere on the avenues the article also began to be applied, but about the mass blocking of streets in general, there are, as it were, questions, uh, and by the fact that the composition is really. eh, this is a group of persons and by intent is not the essence, but there was such a practice when, in order to fulfill a completely understandable and correct goal, the law became. well, a little tougher in relation to these people. what did not happen before until the moment when the law will be just as tough on people who in the twentieth year where they went did something. well, there will be no such total reconciliation. this is not good and not bad, but the moment, apparently, it has not yet arrived, just as the moment did not come for a long time when it was possible to make an indulgence on 3 2 8, it happened only now the commission. well, in general, we
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are here, in terms of the work of the commission on the return of the fugitives, a lot of opinions have been said here, but the most important result is not yet, there are no real returnees yet, but there are really considered cases, but with positive results i agree with the weakening. we are already discussing. we're discussing easing, uh, theoretically, but there's nothing. i have legally we are discussing. i have a suspicion that if in the first month there were several dozens of appeals, which will be less in subsequent months. and i'm the first, and i think that i'll explain the time more, while i'm waiting, but examples this is the story of a girl from the conditional old roads there, who went to do as much. or patient zero, yes dear colleagues, i'm ashamed to come back, i'm very ashamed to write that it turned out that the most obvious opponents were nearby. yes to god for
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legislation. we've gotten tougher. in what sense is it different from what previously provided for 10 years, and now does not count 3:28 for other socio-political events, which we are now discussing is not what used to be 15 years, they took it increased. uh, the upper limit was raised to 20 years. no, many legal relations have not been settled. and they used it. as you said, the losing side and we experienced a clear flaw in terms of the ability to prevent and fight these phenomena, and therefore the legislator really settled exactly those legal relations that our opponents used the gap in the legal regulation. let's call them like this in this legislation has undergone changes and in this it is possible to consider
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the legislation to be tightened. uh , his toughening came, but not just kindness and understanding were used as a weakness. if now we are all so great, take into account, if now really everyone. well, i’ll even tell you that it’s wrong, because well, just imagine, i can understand igor when he says that, well, they can’t always accept. yes, people are their teams. here, let, let a person who betrayed us come to our team. well you can with work for him and i will support andrei who says that you need
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such people in journalism at least at the level of the street crossing. i 'll tell you more people who talk about the losing side, our opponents are our opponents. and with such intonation. i think i don't tint. yes, it’s already like this. you can’t carve it out. i think they lie to themselves and lie to society, which is worse, because our opponents would hang us on lampposts, an 18-year-old girl who read instagram went somewhere for a walk , people would not hang us on poles. in crowd this a and b in the twentieth year were different , of course, there were many who are different, but there were others, there were others who would not do anything with those who would come for the official. i took him by the handles by the legs and threw him into the garbage can. they would not have done anything . these people, who only look, that it is impossible today, of course,
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to say all forgiveness, but mercy must be said. why because only the strong truly true people's states are capable of such mercy you see in our state. there is such an ability. and this decree on the creation of this commission, he talks about it, we are ready to forgive what you wanted to add on the previous thesis to speak in defense, we probably need to understand and decide on the goal, er, the creation of this commission. the most important thing, yes, well, look, if you take it, i'm already talking about legislation, as i should be talking about. we have the possibility of exemption from criminal liability procedural. they and so we have in the law the release of this administrative liability is available. we have the opportunity to apply amnesty in the legislative procedure for the pardon procedure, that is, the mechanism. here. e, as they say to forgive people, we have plenty of
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both the state and law enforcement agencies and courts. very much use archiving. here already dear colleagues. i think, after all, the purpose of this commission was just a little bit. it was aimed precisely at those people who are abroad, who are now. well, i’ll even say that it was probably somewhere , to some extent, a political goal. uh, these are people who yes, i also want to note that, of course, here you can’t say like this that one is like that or one is like that. eh, everyone should be judged by deeds and deeds, in principle, this mechanism is provided for in the commission. there , each individual person will be considered for what he has done and accomplished, and his future fate and the decision to be made by the commission will depend on this. but, in principle, now our people who are abroad. they are largely under the influence of the information resource, which
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you understand that it, so to speak, yes, they receive information, they are impressed. there are these telegram channels there with destructive elements. yes, and it’s hard for them now, when the decision is made, all the more so now they are told out of 100% that where you are going, you are all here. yes, it's here right away, and therefore it's an opportunity just to give to people who didn't commit, of course, we're not talking about radical elements here. they won't apply to this commission for those who are not lost to our society. these are students who may have left someone else. yes. ah, back home. it seems to me here the main purpose of this commission. it is very important. well, look, a lot of people say that it’s not so much respect that they force as sills, that’s strength. we make people afraid in some way and people will go. why here, well, as if andrey here. well come back. yes, yes, they
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seem to feel disrespect, but they are afraid of the feeling of fear. here, yes. well, it's normal to be afraid of the power of the state. yes, the state is for that, and why apply? well, you're afraid, because you live, your passport is running out of money. no job you're in such situations when you're at home, well, you 're afraid, it's not so much afraid. how long has it been unclear how to live? when i started talking about being ashamed, there was also about being afraid. i had a little different in mind, it's a shame to go back after failing the entrance exams . when you told everyone there , you all know who you are here, and i left cool. everything and i'll do it. i'll be taller and so on i left and that's it. but there already yes, no work, no money, there are no prospects, no fate, nothing, no medicine. i agree with andrew that he returned
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back how to write it? the girls never come back, they just go to the bar, well, they don't return to their native collective farm. do you need the first swallow? the first one is about. well, here i want to say that the commission is not pursuing some kind of enrollment, yes, that is, it is not the quantity of quality that matters to us. let it be 23 people or 230 people. it doesn't matter that no one will reproach us later that there was no such mechanism. and now about the fact that some giggle about the repentance of repentance. we want not not from those who will return, and we are ready to accept them. we want not, uh, what not their assurances of love for some party or for some political activity. e to the leader, so that they come , kneel down, we look for love there, light up the onco or the flour carrier or something else? no, we don't want that, but they have to understand,
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sometimes it was necessary for me, it seemed to me that's how they interpret it so that people don't come back, we should people who are now watching us abroad. they must understand that belarus is now in a difficult situation due to our partners walk around the perimeter and swear with their teeth. we are on the verge of war, under the threat of our independence sovereignty, of course we would like that as evidence that they are patriots they said how much they love their country. but look explain even they will say not how they like it. let them condemn the rebellion, condemn the illegal actions. yes, than the usual repentance for a crime differs from a very civilized form on the border from lithuania to latvia whose crimea and who started the war in ukraine well, in fact, this is not repentance in fact. we do the same thing only in a more civilized way. we do the same thing,
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because they ask a question to everyone who wants to pass through their border, they arranged. for themselves, contrary to all international rules, they staged a democratic and diktat. no, they do what they do, what they want, and we are really democratic, because let's apply and come again committed an offense. are you sitting there afraid the lawyer can? you know, here we are talking about students about young people, after all, one should not forget about some kind of youthful maximalism. and believe this brother, because many of them. well, time will pass and they will understand that here it is one motherland and there is no need for another, how to convey to these young people that they need to return, because there they are a ballast, one of them, of course, will settle down. and maybe he will even have a very good life for himself, and someone will accept the motherland as this ballast. and we need these young people, we need smart
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young people. why not and they will repent over time, but here and well we need to work. these young people will come, and we must also make every effort so that they hear us and tomorrow we will not allow such a situation at all. and here there is work to be done, very huge, starting, as we say from kindergarten, so that no one even has a desire to go out to some squares, that everything is just in the soul. understood here it is my land. here is my country. here is my flag. here is my anthem. and now, even some , you know, who are very active behind the plinth today. kind of repented after all these are also true, then you are hinting at artists not only at many artists, but in any case, you understand, i’m still for mercy for indulgence, of course, reasonable but well, you yourself speak
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repented, but uh, we all we still don't fully trust. this is irina vladimirovna, you say that the interview is in the minister's office. yes, and few people pass, although they ask. well there simple questions are not ready to publicly repent. well, maybe then minkul, then it makes sense to have some kind of list of requirements roll out to the artists who want yes, a clear one who wants neighbors, he is and no one is shy about it. it's only us that we are kicked by what we do blacklists, by the way, speaking, by the way, there is your personal black list, you have a personal black list and or is it just a top list of songs that you like to hear your positions and mark in the appropriate let's say so . belonging to a certain group of people, let's say, and secondly, i will participate in cultural projects that are of a socio-political nature, because there are people who come, it seems , to repent, even such persons it would seem significant, but when you say, and you will go to
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a special event, for example, no no, it’s not quite for me. here concerts would be commercial somewhere. that's what i would do there, but they don't invite me. well, that's why we don't invite you, because, let's say, you didn't designate yourself in the appropriate way. what about? sorry it is said, as regards the sincerity of remorse. sorry, but here you need to measure seven times once, then make decisions there was such an actor, there was pavel kharlandchuk , who remembers an older long time in politics, a bad participant , in my opinion, since 2006 he was very active there in front of october square, then from one theater. here they ruled, well, then he repented , he came to the same kupalovsky theater , there is no black dog, you finished it off. all the same , his essence has manifested itself, so we look very carefully at all such people . the question is for you, as a journalist. this is what he always asks when you start arguing about this topic. with those who ran away from time to time, they appear in your social networks, they say, and it's understandable. you have run out of doctors, policemen. the artists have run out,
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the deputies have run out, and the journalist has run out. and now you want to shave everyone with this , forgive everyone and go to work. the reverse is not a problem at all. uh-huh, no. but a certain number of 2,000 people who left somewhere in the country in the twentieth twenty-first year is not critical, not problematic for belarus, they always left somewhere for labor migration. like a certain number of people, and then uh, so all this was replenished by internal labor migration, the characteristics did not stop, and the return of all whites, e, will not affect anything critically and importantly. eh, for life inside belarus for me personally. this is what is happening with the situation with the fugitive return commission here, which means the main part of society, which is directed to this work. this is the core of society, relatively speaking, neutral, which is neither one opposing country nor another, but observes how the state of belarus behaves in such a post-crisis situation. as far as we we know how, and how to show the power of mercy,
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as far as we do not gesture in terms of some kind of personal revenge there. hey, that's what people are looking at. uh, to hell with them with the fugitives in person. here, let them sit. there, as much as i like, i am worried about people who observe the state system and sometimes say that well, of course, you are right in the twentieth year. here the fugitive wanted to let the country down, but solving the problem of the twentieth year. you gesture such people also have me. they interest me personally in the first place, they are active opposing sides in order to our people treated us well, our government and our country. right now, our yes trusted, because and yet we talk a lot about the first sign. about this here is the first example on his return, but we are with uh, with yura voskresensky before the air. generally discussed. yes, we are, uh, with regards to who signed for whom in 2020, well, so are you. well,
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we are following this a little bit so harshly. well, let's put it this way, but in parallel with this , the process of party building has been launched in our country. don't we scare people, but what are we doing now, what if you gave your signature for and there for gaidukevich, ldpb or for the communists, and after some time, as after the twentieth, you will have a question. and why didn’t you sign up for this party, but zanu, nevertheless, it seems to me that you and yura are discussing this problem and turn out to be socialists. well, what are we talking about, but there is a little bit of waste, a different story , i agree, but there is the right of a stronger one, and the second one is also good, wonderful, but sometimes you still need to return to the mainstream of legality, sometimes illegal. how are we going is there a period? it seems to me that i already spoke on the air there, uh, in september 2020, alexander lukashenko will meet with would. ah, prosecutors said that sometimes it’s not up to the law, after, uh, 1.5 years ago, alexander grigorievich said that we all
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still need to learn to live by the law , there are time frames when the reduction of goals sometimes they are up to the law, because time is like this, but time passes you have adapted and speak here speak. yes, that is, in comparison with that, but the period that was there 2-3 years back 2020. i mean, and now well, does it make sense for us to relent or not? undoubtedly, i agree that if i understand correctly, igor is the main thing, or rather, not the main thing, who will return. and most importantly, for the citizens inside to understand that this humane human, uh, did not see the inhumane approach. i would say so. i think that i agree, of course, with the impression that this goal should be achieved to influence our population, which is located on the territory of the republic of belarus, but i think
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it is important to show that people can return and there are people who want to come back, so uh, i'm sure it's a vector pointing in both directions and moreover, you can't regulate everything. here we have, uh, such a message sounds that everything must be prescribed in the law, it must be prescribed, then how what where? why and why? dear colleagues in the work of the commission and in work with these citizens who, uh, would like to return, it is impossible to prescribe everything ; the commission will consider this individually. we can formalize like this. this is what we'll see, what's fine this man can come back and you can give him a chance to return and integrate into a good normal life inside the republic a on formal grounds - it will be
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a commission, so there is andrey mukovoshchi and yuri voskresensky and the same grigory alena look, how do you understand your role of work in the commission. you are not a lawyer. yes, you are folk. eh, well, i don’t know, there is a person who describes some events, including some of his own conclusions. yes, and maybe even somewhere quite correctly there are people who think. yes, they did nothing against the justified, they smart. they are very smart and that's why every day i emphasize every day starting august 8, 2020. they say literary yes the best result of all the most cardinal most extremist most terrorist telegram channels. and bring them under the law. there is nothing for which you can issue a fine for
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the wrong crossing of the street, if so to speak , to spend certain resources on this, yes, and so on. i see my role in the commission, there are a lot of lawyers, investigators, yes, the invoice of the prosecutors, they will give an invoice and everything is fine will see what it really is, i'm on the commission. i think it's just to be on time to say that guys. yes it is in my opinion. in the case of private a, these are guys in the case of zhvalevsky and pasternak a, you do not know about this, because this is not your professional field of activity. everything, essentially. you can be the chronicler of the commission itself, or just a collegial decision. it is understandable not from the flour carrier ozaryomka, which you diligently, so to speak , make monsters in the palaces. that's individuality, therefore. cool solution here
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well, you know, when a decision is made or collegial it is always probably more correct than it is taken individually, because it takes into account all different points of view. i, probably, with a colleague somewhere, too, probably, do not quite coincide in terms of point of view, so this gives an opportunity. e, a verified position from behind and make a decision, because again i will return to what, that in each case the fate of a person will be considered , we should not forget about it for this and this the fate of a citizen of the republic of belarus and, in fact, if he, as i put it, is not lost to society. it might even become a very useful word. this is the final word. it's still because of the prosecutor general's office will no why more than a majority majority, he votes takes equality of votes. well, yes, at least one meeting
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is normal. colleagues ahead to work. one must also know, one must also be aware that, after all, it was not just a commission, m-m, that they gathered, someone simply reported. uh, superficial about this person. and the commission will immediately decide. after all, the secretariat will do a lot of work, it will be studied, if there is a criminal case, it means that the criminal case has been lost, all the competent authorities will be abandoned. we do not hide the fact that it is not just not just based solely on the materials of the case, and, yes, there, yes, the competent authorities, the relevant ones, will be abandoned. this person will be enlightened. i understand, i’ll tell you , using an example, andrei pauk called me briefly. yeah, i heard a great fart talk. just at the prosecutor's office at the investigating authorities yes there
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will have an offer. how long can he serve? and, well, that is, he will be offered a slip term immediately instead of 15 years. here's five for you. under such conditions, come from being punished and return to the family. i will offer, just simply offer commissions, in another option. the spider travels the country, participating in all special events and only sings the song aura does it every week in full, what is called serious? yes, it's fake once. all over again andrei but then look, maybe you don’t know, maybe, uh, there is a spider in list yuri vladimirovna in the list of those people who are good. here you pay attention to what kind of liberal approach the members of the commission demonstrate, but uh for me is very uh, the information aspect is
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really interesting, as i said? igor this is a very important aspect. the point is that later and now we observe all their statements and fix them. i even note something. this means that later this will be used by our media in order to show their active, so to speak, desire to return, for example, today i look, there is some kind of journalist, extremist. romanova says my grandmother called me. that is, it means that the information already reaches and says that a commission has been created and you can return, and it says why are you sitting there? why don't you come back, and i told her that i'm not in power yet. i will not return, they are wonderful texture, wonderful. they are groping. like water with your foot, huh? because they want and prick you think a spider. why did you call me just to collect materials and try to post them there on this very cheap one. no, it's parallel all the time. and if me and me
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for sure they will forgive me, and i’m sure with kittens. and how much do i have with kittens, and you yourself will consider or a little lightening? i didn't come up with this. well, he is afraid that grisha will be him, you say that we are escalating about your surnames. well, nothing personal consideration of the matter is good, it is clear that the extremists. well, we have already come to such an understanding of their three places, but those who definitely won’t get into this commission and definitely won’t always return, but they perfectly understand what they have done, but they won’t go here. under no circumstances, as a rule, it is also people with a very radical position. how to make a star? yes? well, not everyone succeeded. yes, here are the ones that break off. and they won't come back here, they 'll stay, but there let's talk about those who, after all , can't create anything directly of such a supernatural nature. since
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we have a couple here, they didn’t do anything like that, what do you think it’s easy to write in telegram, just write telegram, just block the road, yes, it’s nothing to do. it's okay to just hang a white piece of paper in the window every day. this fine. by the way, pasternak is alive and talking. you often give an example that you just got out. it's just on the road. well, they went out, yes, they know what they did, they never realized that they could really take it right there and hold it up. they didn't go on their own. and they had to send a report to their grandfather. they sent a seventy-year old man to take pictures at the bus stop and watch what was happening on pushkinskaya well , so to speak, the approach is such a grandfather, it’s not a pity, he’s old enough to understand what such an approach is. why then commission commission when
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it turns out that everyone doesn’t, because russia is the thing, that they just use this mechanism, but they can use the return, but it will be necessary to say that in fact, here are your words, then we don’t allow anyone, as it were allowed arrives sits, as like those who all arrived and sit yourself. how long to sit the commission determines, you know, you can see how much is sitting. it will still determine where he is the prosecutor. sorry good. how then how much? sat goes. what kind of forgive me for interrupting you human. well, relatively speaking, i went there , photographed something or took some selfies in august, the twentieth year, i got scared, i left, well , i donated something there. well, he wants to come back. here he can turn and say. you know, i might. hmm yes, i have entered the fa
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and sort it out. i am ready to be punished by the cooks will say, uh, the best minor administrative offense is the same, please, you can change the felonies. and what to say? wait, i'm crime. and today we're talking about no commission will decide on administrative proceedings or on condemning them as a substitute for a felony. this will be done by the court, but back to the attorney general. giving comments. he said that such persons, if they repent really publicly, then perhaps they will. they will be punished. they will be held accountable, but even this punishment will not be connected with imprisonment , restriction of freedom, i correctly say alexei konstantinovich about these crimes, but i quote. uh, general attorney every sit down is called yes but the activity of extremism. yes, this is what each prime says about prime. the application must be
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considered individually and nothing can be formalized in advance, which means that i regard you as not quite. uh, specific answer addition. the commission will not decide give him more less, if so, break it down into three main vectors. uh, the responses of the commission, then it is possible, if it is established that for a person there is nothing at all administrative proceedings, no criminal cases, then the commission will answer him that, please, return any non -administrative, that is , simply put, claims against you. uh, so to speak, no, then the commission will consider and make a decision before everyone gets there.
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it seems to me that this commission will have to go through such an internal court, which will be tougher and more terrible than what lies ahead if you still say to yourself, yes, and they will boldly take this step. well, the connection with the fact that everyone returns is mercantile stories. i can honestly tell you that both andrei and alena surov have a telegram channel for everyone, at least repent there. the secrets of good morning and good mood live in a cage, one amazing girl who bakes more than 50 types of bread and for us she promised to cook purple wheat loaves. i want to mess around, yes, meeting amazing people. we are not
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