and not ten thousand of them were burned in belarus. well, firstly, close to minsk, some things here also played utilitarian meanings. but it so happened that it was khatyn that became this object of argumentation. there was different. i want to say that when we talk about the desire to implement the creation of this complex, then this is a very important national project. nationally highlighted project. it was not easy, but it was for the belarusian leadership to achieve that he would also receive all the allied support, because in moscow, among other things, there were people who opposed, and the creation of this complex, including the minister of culture fursov of the ussr but pyotr mironovich mashered people, and this happened in khatyn. it just symbolizes the mass. annihilation it symbolizes the complete

destruction of the village, it is just such a symbol. the genocide of what the belarusian people experienced and just remind you that ah , belarus is the most affected of all the republics occupied by germany in europe , the most affected country, we have the largest losses of civilians, and therefore it was right that it was done. and thanks to this complex, when we talk about bathing, we talk about the destruction of our population, then this symbol certainly pops up. he became familiar. in any case, we are at the institute of history with our colleagues within the framework of working groups that are engaged, together with the general prosecutor's office, in the investigation of the criminal case

, the study of documents. sometimes discussed and asked the same questions about. why is this connected and came to the conclusion that everything that concerns khatyn. this is a symbol today. this is an accomplished historical fact, the creation of this memorial complex. the hut is today a world-famous such symbol of tra. and the belarusian people of the enocide of the soviet people and the belarusian people are a symbol of all the destroyed, burned and affected villages. i’ll talk about the numbers today and try to find a connection from the cattle, but not one story who confirms and does not see. this one. there is a version of this connection that is not based on any sources, because it is purely sucked out of

the finger, which is like, but in order to supposedly let's just say to confuse the tragedy of polish officers near smolensk, cats took a settlement that is similar in name, but was destroyed by the german nazis. that's why khatyn was chosen for this place, no documentary evidence in some kind of correspondence, let's say. it's a hoax, you know, uh, there are versions created. e fantasies of either journalists or people who make these stuffing, and the historian, e, is based on documents. if there was such a document, if there was such a rationale, well then we would have agreed, but as far as i know there is no such document, but they have nothing like that, that is, my colleagues have never published those who were engaged in a specialized one, so here. well, i think that after all, in any case , the logistics played a role, purely related

to the fact that hmm is not far from the capital. and what is this territory, about which we are talking, this is a very active partisan zone, a very powerful partisan movement in this territory was and therefore these things played their role, because uh hmm again same belarusian image of the great patriotic war, which are definitively canonical belarusian. these historical narratives were formulated hmm, just directly rewarded than when we are talking about creating the image of belarus fighting against the nazis joke. yes, but this was just due to the fact that, uh, really belarusian flat partisan movement is not had analogues in the world. uh, because if

we talk about scope, then we are the first in the world. uh, they can only compete with us gloriously for competition in fact, but in fact, if we are talking about the active resistance to us occupied by these territories occupied countries occupied by the people, then we then gracious and then greece, these are the three peoples who provided, really some recent data. how many villages repeated their fate? yes, we just recently literally completed. hey, that's the first step. interdepartmental work. e, the working group was created and by order, for example, the ministers of the republic of belarus, e-e, this working group included 30 e scientists. e, institute, history, academic scientists, museum workers, archivists, lawyers, and representatives of the prosecutor general's office, and we analyzed, e, several dozen, e data presented to this working group

objectively, with the study of all e documents, e, characteristic criteria that were previously used in relation to this one list of khatyn, which included 186 settlements and came to the conclusion that today this list. eh, ha khatyn is supplemented with thirty settlements one, a settlement from the roznin region four, minsk region, and i’ll also say everything else for 03/09/2023. general list of e, settlements destroyed. and the victims, because this e criterion for the victims or partially, yes, and the victims e, it has 10.961 settlements and maybe, e. this interdepartmental working group did not stops and because of the general prosecutor's office and regional. uh,

our country's six prosecutor's offices today received, uh, lidars for more than 11,700 localities. this is according to the documentaries. e sources as a result of interrogation of witnesses still alive and this is the task of scientists and members of this working group, a to objectively analyze to remove all controversial points to apologize for such a word, so as not to give later opportunities for certain criticism. as for the questions that may arise, i will say five main criteria. enjoys uh, four main ones long since the book of the genocide of the belarusian people, somehow the so-called black book, then without a statute of limitations e, is used, where more than 9.300 settlements, points and the fifth criterion are included. we specifically approached this, worked out, and worked with

uh lawyers, settlements that suffered as a result of property damage to housing construction, housing and utility buildings, administrative cultural, educational and religious objects, regardless of their total number. these are the affected communities. this the right approach. uh, here, uh, i think, as a historian leader. uh institute. uh, as a member of this uh working group. today we see a map of the affected settlements, it is also available there. in principle, there is not a single free place and every resident, probably, of the republic of belarus, uh, many neighboring countries, who remember, uh, the tragedy of the history of the great patriotic war. they can bring their settlements to point their tragedy to their own. eh, the kind of relatives close to everyone, this is

the historical memory, it sits deep in the soul. at the beginning of the program, you said that not everyone, especially the higher leadership of the soviet union, wanted to have a want to be a memorial complex. and why is it also because of the one who destroyed it? why were they silent about it? you understand, we had such a dictation of the soviet germans. and some little bit of some kind of demand of the incomprehensible, which runs around. but when we talk about belarus, there is another very important point. and the belarusian nation gave the minimum number of those, the minimum emphasized the number of those who collaborated with the nazis, but just numbers according to various estimates from 20 to twenty-seven thousand. there are those who collaborated with the germans with weapons in the hands of this ethnic belarusians, who served in various military, and german units. they were opposed by, uh, 374,000 in

partisans, and this without a reserve? from these 374.070%. these are ethnic belarusians , i emphasize ethnicity. why am i emphasizing such an important point, because there is a myth that supposedly the partizans are the nkvd officers, the infiltrators, that there was no belarusian, that it ’s all the rest. and he was right a thousand times olesya domovich, when she called the partisan war of belarus a crusade of children, because up to 50% of those who fought partisan detachments are people aged 15 to 25 years. and if you're not mistaken, we have girls. now why

were ukrainian nationalists with the germans and ukrainians? and it was very unpleasant, including for the soviet leadership of ukraine, which did everything possible and impossible not to focus on these things. we still have people who say. for what tell? that vitya why did the latvian policemen, who later joined the squad, destroy? well, why? well, why talk about the lithuanian police, and the second one has already been told a story? why do i think that you just need not to confuse the two things. uh, there were ukrainian nazis, there were ukrainian radical nationalists who relied on hitler, and there were people ready to cooperate with weapons in their hands on the side of the occupier, and therefore i believe that silence about falsehood always gives rise to even more monstrous myths. here are the myths let's say there are

myths in khatyn today, because it really happened. that's when this collection of documents came out, yes, and it's dedicated. just here are the documents. that's what he's called. eh, the killer of khatyn. and how the fate of the punisher of khatyn turned out differently, some of them managed to escape. the last of them, vladimir katyuk, died in his bed on the banks. we all know ontario. yes, yes, and today even on the internet, uh, wikipedia gives lists of names of those people who participated in family names in the destruction of the village, there are meleshko and vasyur and katyuk, who was deprived of canadian citizenship for 10 years, but ukrainian fishing

achieved ukrainian water, diaspora, they returned him and did not extradite the criminal who personally took part. the fact is that those are the majority those who remained in the soviet union were not exposed the first time, because, well, they also did not tell from them that they were who they were, but who fled to the west? no one was, the issued prosecutor's office initiated a law that involves the involvement of even those who have already died criminals. this will somehow help punish the guilty, i don’t know, at least let’s say formally punish these guilty, i think justice, i think that in any case, but the court is a very important point. uh, because if a person is not recognized by the court as a criminal that is always there for speculation. i believe that this is

correct. this is the first moment, the second moment , when we are talking about one myth is connected with these heroes . chicken coop, which is shown as a heroic unit that fought for ukrainian independence. and what is bukovinian kuren, this is 115 118 ukrainian security police battalions, and the fact is that the 118 ukrainian battalion consisted of one and the first company, an elite, ukrainian, 118 security battalion of the commander of the model of the department, by the way, served as a katyuk, these are the nationalists of the western ukraine, other companies were recruited from residents of kiev, kiev region, as well as from ukrainian prisoners of war. and there is such a thing, you know, they like to speculate on manipulation what they say. here, if you score now on the internet. you will count the soviet officer burned khatyn the soviet soviet officer,

vasyura, yes, 20 years old, 27 years old. well, forget that this man. was he a convinced ukrainian nationalist that he voluntarily went over to the side of the enemy, that he graduated from propagandist courses? already after he went over to the side of the enemy, that this man, so to speak, was the flesh of the flesh of that tradition, despite the fact that he was not, as the western punishers of names say, i will only say one thing, that when we talk about khatyn, , we know exactly what the main destruction actions were carried out by the 118 ukrainian security battalion, as well as a motorized company. uh, sonder of the battalion. ss shit. plus, there was also a ukrainian company and a russian company, and then another forty-third year and a belarusian. 149 were annihilated. of these, 75 children under 16

years old are such a huge number of punishers for such a small village. well, this is the most interesting thing that happened when people were already driven out. they set up there. here is the translator, i don’t remember the translator, then the puncher the battalion commander smolfsky everything the rest they stood. and when someone jumped out, that is, the child jumped out. there it is according to the testimony of the same punishers who were already tried at the minsk trial. well , it is clear that the child is already dead. he is engulfed in fire. all the rest. here they were, like an elderly target, shooting there for a bet on who would hit, yes , and the kayok of which was recognized as not proving

the charges. according to the testimony of his colleagues, he lay in the rock at a distance of 120-150 m. here is the entrance to the barn behind a machine gun and finished off people. and therefore, well, when we talk about these things, we we must remember this, therefore, when we say who destroyed khatyn, we must speak in the ironic right of truthful and correct khatyn, the nazis, german and ukrainian nazis destroyed, not the heroes of the rescue of ukraine, but the nazis are people who belonged to the faction of the organization of ukrainian nationalists. only not the banderaites, but the melnikovites, because there was one chair they didn’t share. so, as part of this bukainsky, chicken coop, just the backbone of it was made up of staunch ukrainian nationalists of western ukraine, which obeyed e and considered their leader andrei melnikov, who argued for e. what is called

the palm with stepan bandera and another very important point when we talk about which i am. but the fact is that since 1995 this scoundrel. and he became an honorary citizen of the city of chernivtsi, and this is not all for his money, he was cast in bronze and stands, and no one will douse him with paint, he will not turn off with a bulldozer. money executioner khatyn. independent ukraine in the ninety-fifth year, that is, the roots you are looking for, of course, a monument was erected to the killers of belarusians. and the scum who made up

the backbone of two punitive battalions. moreover, yes, one more thing, uh, for those who start screaming about propaganda about the fifth tenth, i strongly recommend teaching. if you don’t know english, type in russian the last name per-anders rudling is a swedish-american historian who wrote two fundamental works, one dedicated to the killers of khatyn. it was the atrocity in khatyn of the 118th ukrainian battalion, and the second work of all their other atrocities on the territory of belarus, that they came out in english, then they were translated into russian. there is another generalizing one, where he brought these two works into one. uh, they're available online. there, the whole texture

is a cross-analysis of sources, it was emphasized by a person who, by nationality , is a swede, he now lives in the united states, and the glorification of radical ukrainian nationalists in the epoch-making is also analyzed in detail. it is painted in detail and his own peru on uh, belongs to the best most objective work on the atrocities of the hero of the ukrainian insurgent army and they are trying to falsify him and the leader of the novel for quite a long time in europe and not only in europe, yes, but in this case it is a very specific thing, where a person cites statistics shows who killed, how he killed, who breathed what? what kind of ideology did these killers have and precisely because he shows it honestly. and a lot of people like this, because i wanted to, well, agree with igor aleksandrovich in regards. maybe guilty is nazism and specifically the country

that unleashed the second world war and e was the culprit. e of the great patriotic war, the tragedy of the genocide of the belarusian people , the genocide today is not disputed and the destruction of the slavic belarusian. according to the population, the way the holocaust is today confirmed and is confirmed by international, probably, documents and those documents. here, which are, uh, in a number of collections. e books literature e historical articles, thousands of articles and dozens of monographs, but you see, here we are today we are discussing, we give an example, uh, the tragedy of the belarusian people of the soviet people, and uh, a specific example, the village of koryukovka, chernihiv region. uh, on the first of the second of march of the forty-third year, a punitive detachment of the germans and the ukrainian auxiliary police destroyed 7,000 civilians, and in this heartburn this village and there are such examples

of watering in latvia when latvian villages were burned. uh, this is a specific example. yes , that's about everything and remove the monuments. i will explain monuments very simply, to be honest to the end. examples there is a fact that the massive destruction of villages mass extermination of the population in such a volume that it was in belarus was not in ukraine or in the baltic states and i would not advise. here, especially in russia, they also like to talk about the genocide of the soviet people, which, from my point of view , is a fundamentally wrong message, because it needs to be corrected. who would we understand by e, the soviet people of all citizens of the ussr - this is wrong, because the occupation, for example , of lithuania, latvia, estonia, and the regime of occupation of lithuania,

latvia, estonia, had a completely different character than the occupation of belarus or ukraine, or even more so russia, because great russians were considered the people of the lowest grade among the slavs. there is no cruelty about anything at all, ukrainians were not told about anything there. rosenberg, playing on ukrainian nationalism, believed that it was possible to effectively use another thing, that ukrainian nationalists were not lucky, let's say, to pluck the khleiters, because koch considered ukrainians to be typical slavic pigs, in which you need to control with a whip and shag. this is his direct quote, therefore, but along with when we talk about these cartilages , different modes of exploitation and various genocidal plans in relation to the fact that , firstly, mass destruction in belarus why else was this the same gerlakh showed? why didn't the germans plan to leave. there are only one million three hundred thousand people here, because they believed that it was necessary to destroy the entire urbanization structure

in spite of the new ones. it was a myth that the germans believed that it was as a result of urbanization in the implementation of belarus that the population of belarus had sharply increased. many extra eaters, then we just don’t need a famine plan from here, developed by the german ministry of agriculture, so they didn’t consider in belarus they need 1.300.000. this is the north, like russia, ukraine, the north caucasus, and the crimea there is a different mode of operation there, uh, and here we were a training ground for himler. ah, where is it? and most importantly, why is the difference still in the scale of the partisan movement and the difference in the number of collaborators in the number of traitors, because if you take the statistics and look. how many of these battalions each had on the territory of each occupied republic, you will see a rather interesting situation, because we allow such a number. how many latvians went to

the germans. eh, among the belarusians there were not over 100,000 in relation. you are up to the soviet people of the belarusian people and we have a law on the inocytes of the belarusian people of a criminal case investigation of the belarusian people, but uh, this platform we understand each other with our russian colleagues dive. this is one thing within the framework. e work on e, study. e. genocide. i will explain one more thing. uh, the fact is that the germans were nazis to various ethnic communities that were on the territory of the soviet union , they had a differentiated policy. they knew the ethnic nationalisms of all the balts, the georgians in the muslim armenians, and they are these schemes. they played the cossack card very beautiful jewelry, because the cossack movements. this

special thing, by the way, is also very interesting, and therefore difficult. so when we talk about these things, they were german plans differentiated. and that's what i'm talking about, so when we just talk about the genocide of the soviet people, then at least. we need to make sure that we understand that the prosecutor 's office was indeed a step that was taken on time, and i thank you very much for the interesting conversation and i really hope that our memory will allow us not to repeat terrible mistakes in the future. thank you improve your kind. old

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