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gave out a loser, because you are a feast rush you are still copies and it was allowed to say, only about the fact that today poetry and skeptics did not say about it, that i was barbed on it , this is not so. and tomorrow the first national channel of the belarusian radio and the specialized channel culture will present their program. well, that's it. i have all the new information at 15:00. all the best to you. socio-political talk show in essence alyona surova and kirill kazakov, let's now

discuss the paradox of how it is in a country in which the 80th anniversary of the burning of khatyn is celebrated , extremists are being detained. if you would like to join our conversation. right here in the corner of the screen shows a qr code. you can point your phone to your screen to connect to the conversation and ask you a question. good evening. hello we traditionally always discuss. what options, topics may be interesting to us and our viewers, it is clear that this week on wednesday we will celebrate such a mournful date - the 80th anniversary. and this topic, what is called was on the surface? ah, i'll be honest, i was against it, because i'm talking about the fact that, probably for all normal people, the subjects of discussion, in principle, cannot be here.

this is a monstrous crime against, uh, the belarusian people, and there can be no alternative opinions, therefore , what kind of talk show is here, but one at the same time after one ? that's literally today. yes, in baranovichi , these state control committees, and the numbers announced, in my opinion, 11, if i'm not mistaken, criminal cases have been opened. in general, it turns out that not everything is so unambiguous and not everyone has the same opinion as our gennadiykevich. we're backstage with you started talking about it a little, yes. you said that there is a difference between the concepts that for some reason many people reduce to one fascism, neo-fascism, monazism , nationalism. here's something that's been mixed up lately. let's conduct such a small educational program so that there are no discrepancies. well, i can only say from

a professional point of view, based on the experience in law enforcement that we have, in fact, it is possible to build historical parallels between fascism and neo-fascism, uh, between them fascism and nationalism, which well, the most fertile ground for the growth of fascism is not in fascism. and we see it in our daily law enforcement activities. well, a specific example, and our football fans. we, well, yes, there are good ones already 10 years ago and absolutely clearly saw the note of fascism that was present, and this social group can call them that way, starting from specific morality and ideology, ending with some external attributes of tattoos, and then we realized what exactly this category of citizens. may bring us a problem in the future. and so it happened. and uh, these, in fact, fascist

movements took the most active part in the events of the twentieth year. they are basically ideologies, of course, organized , motivated, trained, respectively, uh, as a fan movement in sports, they essentially had nothing to do, and this is just one of the examples. in fact, belarusian nationalism has rather deep roots. e, which we see, well, almost every day, from literature to deliberate distortion of history. i believe that today in the course of the program we will give such examples, including myself. we deliberately raised the archives and there are documents that have not yet been seen. uh, the light of god, except maybe my safe and archives. today we are voicing. look, journalists very often use clichés when they call, for example, even people who went out under white-red-white rags, you can call them differently, well, fascists are nationalists, well

, we perfectly understand that many of them were drugged and not all of them go, e.g., uh either they are detained or they are attracted. he incriminates the case under the article extremism, just like it is trite to a person who is now abroad. so he knows what he needs to write in order to, uh, be accepted to the site there. yes, in some way. how to understand? he really did something fascist or an extremist, and how not to confuse this. we have fascism and extremism- it's the same thing. but first. let's look at the terms, firstly, i do n't really like your wording from datura. now, i can't understand how, uh, an adult non -sane, capable citizen claims that i was drugged. i've been reading. i don't know, telegrams, internet and so on. well, first of all, the internet is a global thing. and secondly, there is such a thing as history. and if you suddenly we studied poorly at school. and if it’s convenient for you, but to perceive our history without seeing historical facts,

yes, in the form of some kind of memes that are crushed into your head. well, like a candle, and for their atrocities a in the republic of belarus joke formed legislative base u we have a law on preventing the rehabilitation of nazism and, uh, another law is a law on countering extremism, where it is absolutely clear. it is clear that the legislator gave a definition of one and the second, moreover, there is a law on countering terrorism. where u too clearly and clearly the legislator says what terrorism is, so i am far from thinking that there are naive citizens who say, but i didn’t know, yes, they are given out. and it's very convenient. this is very convenient, because, as we say, it’s easier to attribute everything to i don’t know the temperature , pressure, air humidity, and so on, but not at all on the fact that you turned out to be so uh, stupid malleable, that you took yourself in. here is this fascist ideology, which is essentially alien. ah, those who are abroad.

yes, uh, how to find out how to return, firstly , we have almost 1,000 citizens who are officially wanted for committing criminal offenses on the territory of the republic of belarus xx-xxi, some in the twenty-second year. that is, it is not millions, as we are promised. yes, god forbid , this is all nonsense, no more than 1,000 people. first. secondly, if we are talking about the twentieth , but they are guessing, then, from the point of view of law, the statute of limitations for bringing responsibility for an administrative offense has expired , but the statute of limitations has not expired. if he doubts something, he can officially, in accordance with the decree of the head of state, apply to the relevant commission with a question if the legislator has claims and, again, this should not be confused with some kind of indulgence. he may get wrong. well, you're not an amnesty.

many are already confused with this. yes, this is a substitution of concepts, it is very convenient to consider that this is an amnesty. come back, the motherland will forgive everything. so, you come back and answer for what you did, but at the same time, the legislator provides e the opportunity to mitigate the punishment for some things that can somehow make it easier. ah, the fate of such a person. let's get back to terms and turn to history. you mentioned that belarusian nationalism has very deep roots. i think that igor alexandrovich and vyacheslav viktorovich will have something to say about this, and what is meant, and hmm, you know , some people confuse the concepts of nationalism, and they try to somehow mix them with uh, pseudo-patriotism or patriotism. well, let 's draw such lines here, but i would say so on this occasion regarding nationalism -

this is the thing that can eventually develop into fascism and further into nazism. that is, there is more of a negative component, if we are talking about love for the motherland, respect for our love people, then this is primarily a patriotic person. there is definitely a positive connotation here. yes , we are talking about the belarusian national movement, which has rather deep roots. we can also talk about the 19th century, which means we cannot even remember nationalism. i say, well, where it always grows in any society. are there people who are radical or fanatics of some issue? yes, if they talk, for example, about some people, you can bring any idea to fanaticism and , roughly speaking, to the point of absurdity, this is what it is, when nazi chauvinism grows, when all nations bad, except for your combination, which belongs to this or that person. and this fusion they always have people here in this society. unfortunately, this is what we have been talking about today. i would like to point out another important thing here. which why happens, first it happens because many.

unfortunately, people do not know the history of their people in their country. there is a deep source here. and then - it's a warehouse of the psyche. here is the tendency to these radical extremist actions, or the tendency to suggest to accept this information that various media are trying to convey there, but first of all, the internet, if we take it absolutely means today, facts that do not correspond to reality, distortions and falsifications, but which such people are perceived at face value, because it corresponds to them psychologically in history of a person who is radically related to some national idea. well, this can be approached in different ways. i can study history. at home, completely devote, for example, the history of their country and their cities hang flags there, which are even forbidden, this can be understood, but why this line crosses and people begin to think about how to exterminate their neighbors. but first of all, i would say, it’s not that it’s convenient for you to depend on the person himself

, on the suggestion that he perceives, because the destruction of the people in each other - this is what is beneficial there for one, or for the second, this is far from being the case, as a rule , beneficial to external players who want to weaken a certain specific country, split the people, impose their will on this people and the state, and such things. they occur due to a complex of reasons, here, which i noted, neither knowledge of one's history, psychological makeup, and such a massive influence on a massive scale already. why, uh, we go back all the time to the events of the twentieth year. i ask for this forgiveness in our viewers a lunar moment when we, uh, had to learn our lessons. so with regards to, but national ideas and nationalism, after all, uh, history. yes, everything is based on a simple one. they say that it means that history is taught in schools somehow wrong. here we are in the chat. we are now seeing information about someone thinks that a lot of attention is paid to the commonwealth, children do not know it, but in another case, we are talking about what we ourselves

gave to our opponents, certain historical periods. and then people are united in the study of history, like a good goal is good, and people say that we are studying the belarusian language, well, this is one of the two state bad. no, it looks good. well, how it turns out, so that, like good ideas, but are transformed into good ones from the point of view of the belarusian language igor aleksandrovich let's talk about something else. let's talk about what is national socialism, what is nazism, including in the belarusian dimension, when we talk about nazism in the strict sense of the word. this is a racial theory when we say, uh, the most important point, this is the definition of the circle of correct peoples who belong to the same root, there are aryan eski concepts of nazism, maybe german, maybe slavic, maybe russian, this nazism, maybe belarusian, this nazism hitler

when he came to power. he did the same, so that lm in america is also a kind of nation. this is racism of the black racism of only the side, and ethnic radical right-wing nationalism is racial nationalism, this is national socialism. so here's hitler in 1933. but when he came to power. he created his nazi international throughout europe . belarus was no exception, he was so very cunning and smart, comrade fabianakinchents, who tried different political movements in the seventeenth year as a freak. he was also columns. there was. look at the clock of such an evalvar. now it's columns so that's fabiana kinche first created the national socialist belarusian aktiv, and in the thirty-fifth year , the belarusian national socialist party arose in western belarus. all this was funded by uh, well, there was no soros, but there was rosenberg at the expense of the germans. it was funded by the nazis, and the polish

differentiation was quickly sorted out. i realized that this party threatens the national security of poland and all belarusian national socialists were thrown out from behind the perimeter of the ethnic belarusian lands, and the akinets went to make an enchanting career the department of goebbels, and there, what is called the ministry of propaganda flew through the step, so belarusian national socialism, belarusian nazism has a specific date. this is the middle of the thirties of the xx century, which is exactly the same for him as for german national socialism, as well as for modern belarusian neo-nazis. it is characterized by a racial doctrine, and tough tough anti-semitism , tough phobias against everyone else , the exaltation of their ethnic community. the only thing, of course, the germans the national socialists perceived all these assistants as consumables and equal, but uh, when we say this one, i saw it there, don’t exalt

the fans, and not just football hooligans yes , dear people in the world work, everyone understands that dear chat participants, when and when sponges detained faces with bright faces in the twentieth year and with tattoos. they were football hooligans with the symbols of boots in front of the benches, they took off, what are you talking about with the symbols of the der-livanderler. those who carved, belarus from klimovich to brest, when there it was written for everything at once, when there was a swastika. what are you talking about they say the most that neither is the real nazis. they are nazis , they profess the nazi ideology. here is more than their reading. that's why you say, why for us normal people the killers of khatyn, the killers of other belarusian settlements are absolute enemies. i also want to remind you that those who went to cooperate with the germans were a tiny

minority among the byelotech belarusians from 20 to 27,000, and they were opposed for a moment only in partisan detachments 374,000. of them 50% are young people and 1,300,000 on the fronts of the great patriotic war, if i'm not mistaken, so why am i just in order of numbers, so that it's clear who where these outcasts were. they are just appealing to the ideology of their predecessors. how did these people explain their complicity in crimes against their people, when they, together with the german punishers, destroyed, and they stated very simply that, if they say today, quilted jackets are rednecks there in minsk yes, on white heels on the belarusian royal defense. it's march 26th. it is written there 25, but the oath was march 26. this is freedom square. this is when the germans, because it was necessary to crush the partizans, created at the end of e,

created the belarusian regional defense on march 26 , 1944. she took an oath, and then all these nice guys who are in these frames will go to kill their borisov begomsky zone, burn the village, for sure, since the ukrainian policemen burned khatyn, just like that, these bastards there, by the way, zigoval eat will destroy their belarusian population native population of the borisov begomskaya zone. may to june forty-fourth year for the last time. many terezite and think that they are back in history and so on. and here's the problem. we are now saying this to the defense of national interests, so that they understand why we have nationalism, why do we care about this topic, look what happened in the balkans. thousands of hundreds of thousands of dead hit each other, which was between the poles and ukrainians at one time. it's not so long ago not so long ago that it was in many, uh, continents and in latin america and africa, english rule divides the power,

which is ultra ultra from roman law, this is what they all lead to, uh, mutual hatred, hostility and internal conflict, as a rule , the destruction of states and then the most simple people suffer, so now the topic is very important, because on this topic is very easy to set fire to. that's what you would say kirill does not quite agree in the sense that someone there is studying history, maybe he can’t hang any flags. why because if the nrp at one time was not just a political force, just a political force for power, then, uh, we lost this power, but there would be no consulate of the camps, there would be no khatyn, please, study there are other parties, if the flags of this fingers destroyed entire peoples and uh and reason and reason and and according to other signs it is no longer possible to use the same our flag , which was used, uh, white-red-white, which was first used by hanging our underground fighters, in fact destroying the children of the old men, and then in the twentieth year they tried to bathe in blood, belarus and thank god that

we put up then, which means those who went out at all did not know the history of this flag. yes, it's not in history. here's the other thing. they are trying to study history and in fact they themselves do not understand it at all . she is still nothing, so this is purely nazi rhetoric when they promise to cut out the family. yes, when they promise to destroy, but this is nazism, we speak cleanly, the criminal code, when someone says something they don’t know. we have secured extremist resources. extremist symbols are criminal. naturally, listen, today you dropped a gold bar into your purse, recently there was a case of a woman dropping it. here i bought it in a bank, picked up another one, she can say, i have not read the criminal code. i thought i could take it fell to the floor. it is clear that the same is true here, but what is more terrible here is not questions of the property nature of the crime, one purely one, one entry against the state

, one purely german example. in our country, they like to refer to progressive western europe . the federal republic of germany hitler comes to power in the thirty-third year the kaiser flag, which was the flag of the german empire, was created not by hitler in the 19th century during the first world war. this flag was taken down. when the ideas arose, hitler, in the thirty-third year , raises the kaiser flag along with his party flag. first, 2 years, in general , there was only the kaiser flag, and then these two flags. what do you think, it's about the logic of all those who claim. well, it's not the nazis who invented it, everything else. do you think the federal republic of germany us who? whether one of you on the street will allow you to raise the kaiser flag, which is officially at the level of federal legislation is a symbol of far-right nazism national socialism. no, you will pay the truth. let's talk about the value of gennady arkadyevich and vice versa, there are always, yes,

certain parallels with ideology. uh, the then fascist germany and what they tried to bring to us in the twentieth year about the nazis. summing up some conclusion. i can say that the dark cysts that fall into our hands. they rethink very quickly their life values ​​and some. i don't exaggerate. eh, they're trying. erase your tattoos on the wall, because we very quickly explain that nazism will not pass in this country and we will not get into any discussions with anyone. and i wanted to say, not some historical parallels, yes, but technologies, but technologies, that during the war , that during the war with the fight against banforms, that in the twentieth year they were the same, now i will read out quotes from two documents , and then i will say what kind of document the first quote is.

to sabotage state loans and taxes by all means to sabotage any fundraising to promote that labor in the ussr is equal to slave labor to combat the bodies of the ministry of internal affairs to intensify propaganda to leave the bodies of the ministry of internal affairs among police officers who do not want to leave and more stubborn to destroy propagate the atrocities of the bodies. ministry of internal affairs to introduce hatred towards them among the population to instill in the population hatred for the agents of the ministry of internal affairs for working with youth. let the teachers of the direction in a nationalist spirit take students under their influence nationalistic songs to tell the children of the azvests, the bolsheviks killing children, the destruction of the school and so on. this document is one document, the second is bringing the tactics of actions aimed at destabilizing normal work and the economy, calls for indefinite strikes and production shutdowns. intimidation of the population by the collapse of the economy. loss of savings in banks impossibility of paying pensions galloping inflation refusal to pay utility

bills. you can collect them, while donations are on a chain for the goals of the revolution and political connection of discrediting the demonization of the internal affairs bodies and the entire law enforcement system stuffing information about torture, rape, murder, including unfair detentions for songs, walks in the forest, and so on, active work in the telegram channel with young people; and russia, the first document is a directive, upa, which was seized by a bandit killed in the forty-fourth year, who acted on the territory of western belarus is a training manual ampere the second document. these are the training manuals that we confiscated in the 21st year in the twenty-second year from our oppositionists. as you can see, the technologies are the same, and when we are told that we were misled, we were wrong. ai-ai-ai, and so on, we don’t believe in soap. andrey here is

a question. look how we just started talking about how very similar were the dialogues of our conditional rebels and the upa, which operated during the great patriotic war. and we also now very often watch, for example, the media that there are no fascists in ukraine, but when you start comparing some symbolism that exists, this and, in fact, a torchlight procession, this is the attitude towards people in terms of language. according to the place of birth. the burning of books is an attitude towards the church that is now taking place, and the very funny news today came that in relation to a quarrel with the hungarian authorities, they can initiate a case precisely because he was an accomplice of the nazis sura with the jews. and when zelensky says that i am a jew in some way, trying to film myself responsibility. well, how the jews have always suffered, anyway, it comes to the conclusion that it is a fascist.

are there any states in today's ukraine, i'm not saying that this is a fascist state, but there is some logic of what russian journalists are talking about, when, for example, today i saw a zhirinovsky burger cut from zhirinovsky's meat , what is it, they are fascism, well, that's right it was said about the fan groups of belarus, that is, 8-9 years ago, when the coup took place in ukraine and when the formation began. here is the right of the azov sector this is a certain fashion, and all these radical youth groups of ours begin to focus specifically on azov, on the right sector. so let's say a certain vector appeared. what was the vector in the first place? this is a vector against russia , as there is another nationalism that exists there in poland, the baltic states, this is nationalism against russians, this is its main difference - anti-russia and, of course, what happened with this basic. that is, it's not just some bandera. yes, some kind of narrow national movement there. this is the nazi international because all the rights of the organization in western europe east. they are collaborating with evil in mariupol, this is eastern ukraine in general, as if torn off from the golitsa , of course ha. in which they had a base, you are being filmed, this was an organization

that was supposed to, like such a trojan horse in ukraine, legalize and thus legalize, then fascism is already further west, because look, they are defenders, they are fighters. they are at war with the russians. this means that fascism is something not very bad, and they have this function perfectly performed. and now the representative of the ministry of internal affairs will not be allowed to lie, that is, all our youth radical groups began to focus on them at some point, because before that they, let's say , acted very chaotically, and then, when such a significant force appears. they all started looking for exit channels specifically to azov, because there was money there. there were to have resources. there was such a propaganda machine built. it's not just some kind of military formation. this is a whole network of public organizations. first queue. i did not collect money. they got them, they were financed well. and this is the fashion that began to work everywhere in the cis , this is such a vacuum cleaner that sucked out all the nazi activists from all the countries of eastern europe. in the same place, in general, there are people with russian surnames. in this azov there are people who are from russia, too, the border, which was a raid group. yes, these are indeed the people who belonged. russian nazi organizations that entered this azov and

which has been there for six or seven years in ukraine fought. that is, look it turned out yes , even send the russians against the russians. ultimately, this speaks volumes about the effectiveness of this organization. well, let's ask a question. who benefits from this for the europeans, maybe there is some pole? no, this is beneficial to the americans. that is, when we have such a force that is radical , which works against russia, which can be legalized tomorrow somewhere in europe. well, this is the next step already in simply destabilizing european countries, because, well, look here, it seems to be already not nazis and you are not nazis. here it turns out really the internationale is good. why is everyone closing their eyes? that's even on such banality as , for example, and these here with the ss symbols in england are narrow signs. why does everyone look at what is printed in their newspapers? and how would that be ? well, that's it, it's possible. now it's already possible, uh, igor aleksandrovich said about raising the flag of kaiser germany or there, for example, a flag, but the fascist reich is somewhere in bonn, well, not berlin anymore, and you can get it for it corners. and here, please, well, it's all blocked by russia

that is, while you are acting against the russian federation , please, swastika. we will close our eyes there. here only fight, only dies. there, in principle, these are the situations. i apologize about 2014, literally two words. the fact is that after the victory of the maidan in 2014 , very close ties were established between the unregistered part of the young front, its combat wing and the right sector, they went to tactics and everything else in the carpathians and then dropped a photo report from 2014, starting to publish articles about the so-called ukrainian belarusian brotherhood and all. the rest they were preparing were preparing for, i don’t call ukraine a fascist state. i have no facts for this. i am only guided only by the public space of the internet. however, we can assume that ukraine was chosen as such a center of the fascist international, and the most interesting fascio is italy. by the way, a bundle yes, fascism is essentially the same. these are italians. that is, we

are talking specifically about the nazis. yes, fascism is already a few words by journalists and historians. why was this a specific question? why and then yes, to distinguish between the goal and the means , the reason and the real reason is the goal, the destabilization of a certain region. there are specific interests here, these radically pro- radical movements. this is a tool. if they think their ideology is going to win somewhere or whatever, they are more or less players. no, they are tools. and when they are not needed, they will be easily destroyed, but at the moment they are profitable and they are used why ukraine is responsible i will explain why yes, both in russia and in belarus there were right radical movements, but the relationship of the state to this is the first localization, the second is the struggle for control, secret services, over them and the prevention of the development of this cancerous tumor in the country. the current not only develops, but also plays

a rather visible role in the politics of this country and does not play here. role. nationality of the president. we see specifically that there is funding , uh, a branched structure, and there are specific decisions at the x-hour that made these minimum political decisions, so you and i must understand for a moment that at the current the moment is the task of destabilizing the european plain. there are specific interests , and that's all. and why are these sensations used, uh, a person, uh, who didn’t get a good education, i realized it in life, it’s easiest for him to socialize in an emergency, either in some radical movements, or in some kind of revolution, because, as they say, you didn’t become anyone here everyone and today he is being. eh, i'm lying. there, somewhere on the bed, his mother is feeding him. and tomorrow he will make himself a few swas some kind of current descended, and then they go in a crowd dark and some intelligentsia is walking with a briefcase, and he is already looking aside at him. on a certain strength, but in fact, what he is like, nothing, but

listen, we in our country will never allow it. uh, in an illegal way, taking advantage of participation in any currents. uh, to discredit the normal government and normal citizens of the country. here, the key was the testament that the state allows ukraine to do this , we can say differently, but the obvious fact remains obvious. why is the state allows, because, unfortunately, uh, the ruling elite of ukraine, it does not reflect the national interests of its people, but reflects the attitudes from the outside. if we look at history, then at one time nazi germany was also grown in fact by the anglo-saxon world with the support of the united states of america great britain huge money was invested only there for development. that radically accelerated nazi ideology was eight years before the start of the actual great patriotic war. she ukraine these things. that is why, by the way, the roll calls go between with these ideological guidelines, leaflets and other things, what we see now and we tried to do here, because the anglo-saxon of the sun roots go there, then also. that is, either ukraine is somehow wounded against russia

in order to destabilize this situation, i have already said that if the russians start to win, the americans will open a second front against the ukrainians. yes, a small moment is quite interesting from the point of view of regularity, which means, er. all of him certainly know that in 2021 the prosecutor general's office is investigating a criminal case on the fact of the genocide of the belarusian people during the great patriotic war, the post- war period and within the framework of this criminal case , requests for legal assistance are sent to a number of states, emphasized requests for legal assistance. slightly switch on january 1 ukraine kiev procession in honor of the next anniversary of the birth of the notorious stepan bandera torchlight, that is, symbolism is present the second moment on march 1, poland or aleksandrovich will not let you lie remembrance day, so to speak, the damned or fallen soldiers, who since 2011

celebrated celebrated in poland who is it? these are those who, in one way or another, in the opinion of the polish authorities, fought for the independence of poland. and if you take it in fact, who is the krai's army, it is not unknown. he is brown, who became famous for his bloody exploits in quotation marks on the territory of belarus on march 16. not so long ago last week. the procession of ccc legionnaires in latvia and what is indicative of the footage from this procession in one attempt? guess what flag was along with the flags of latvia, these are about fascist ukrainian. well, the last one, so to speak, here uh, at the end of july in estonia, so to speak, they also celebrate the e date dedicated to the estonian ss division and now we add these two theses. from which states, more precisely, which

states do not provide us with any legal assistance, therefore, a criminal case. can i ask you a question, but you do not answer it. i just don't need an answer. look here. i read here recently in uh, our journalists from our colleagues. i don't know what it 's called, but on the other side it's called barricade that we're seeking recognition genocide in order to get some kind of indulgence, when israel received an indulgence during the holocaust. there was a massage. and well, he is obliged to destroy all over the world those people who took part in the holocaust , they say, they legislated the work of the masada all over the world. we, as it were, the belarusian special services do not have this right under international law, but having received genocide. we can allegedly destroy our oppositionists on our own. i don't ask. i just really can say that what if our other idea is absolutely. as for the question

on the initiation of an investigation of the criminal grandfather of the case on the genocide of the belarusian people. i'll just give you a few numbers, as well, that relate to this topic. first, the scale of the tragedy that occurred, they were clearly underestimated, banal examples the so-called sisters of khatyn, that is, historically , 186 such villages of settlements were established, which were destroyed together by the inhabitants. today, there are at least 30 more of them, that is , at least 30 have been established, that is, already 216, as regards the number of victims. e means if for a long time the figure prevailed that 2.2 million people died on the territory of belarus, but today we can say that this figure is at least 3 million people, again,

with regard to places of detention of the population again. this figure has also moved to no less than 580 such places of economic damage. today it has been calculated and think about this figure, it is at least four point 2/10 trillion dollars. here is today's course. the socio-political talk show is essentially talking about khatyn and extremists. tell me, is it really all we know about hunting, this is the first thing, because for a large generation of belarusians. this is already some kind of unshakable thing, yes, which must be perceived. as axioms, it is not necessary to delve into whether it is good or bad. the only thing we have learned about recently. rather, historians brought it to the public plane, they knew before

that these were ukrainians. rather, the ukrainians were one of those who were burned. why did they do it? well, probably, because the union republic, probably, no matter how much you would like to raise this. ah, but here, in fact, from the point of view of the historian. we need to know the whole truth, or else in these historical moments. it is necessary to keep silent about something in order to calm the society. uh, it should be understood that the story. it should always be based on documentary sources , as for khatyn, we can confidently burn that at present everything is known about this crime, in fact, literally everything, today there was a presentation of a collection of documents on khatyn held by the national archives belarus and actually white spots on khotyn do not exist at the present time. well, here it should

be understood that, well, of course, certain facts , certain events. they can be served in different ways, as far as ukrainians are concerned. uh, this was also known in soviet historiography. well, okay. it was ethnic ukrainians who took part there, but it was as if such a decision was made not to actualize this particular problem. why because they lived in the same state and in order not to create such anti-national let's say hostile mood between belarusians and ukrainians. naturally, this was not advertised. but of course, a lot needs to be done here. and these figures were given, but the huge task is also to ensure that these facts , these events, which, among other things , are being investigated as part of a criminal case. they

were brought to the public, because scientists are well aware of this, we are talking about it. well, we heard about how azov was popularized. i understand that these are the facts that the prosecutor general's office is investigating, they should become. pardon this word this. here are the facts that are popular in the sense that everyone should know them, it turns out that we are in uh, in fact, all this time, right? so you say historians were in the know. well, in principle, people who were interested. no, i think those who came to khatyn on a tour were, uh, immersed in, but, rather, most of. eh, here we live in some kind of pink world all the time, where we have all around friends, and brothers for a century and never any. excuse me. well , you can’t wait for the mean ones from the other side, what we see today. today we also see they say it, uh, and uh, says the leadership of our country. i think the special services will confirm that certain formations are also being prepared on the territory of ukraine, yes

, which is clearly to us e not from salt pies, uh, we are going to come, we remember. yes, that's literally a recent uh, terrorist attack in the piss. well, uh, actually, absolutely egregious story. yes and says if you let the door replica. first, we must on the one hand, always clearly remember that the vast majority of citizens. let's just say ukraine is the heirs of the winners they are by face the absolute majority of the ukrainian nation. these are not policemen. the vast majority of those who fought on the fronts in the same trenches. the first moment, so that someone does not get the idea that we are now pouring mud on the entire ukrainian people and the heroism and feat that ukraine did not accomplish, if we take the policemen into ukrainian collaborators, this ukrainian insurgent nationalist army, then they still

insert a minority, if compare take for 100% the ukrainian nation the same number of heroes of the soviet union was more than enough. this is the first moment of the second moment. we don't forget this. we do not curse the ukrainian nation, we say it right away, but let's tell the whole truth, and not close some moments when we talk about khatyn. now, if we would now score with you in a search engine, what would pop up khatyn burn a soviet officer. that's the first thing that pops up the search engine soviet officer, however, he served as a german, you know? one simple thing that happened not just an announcement happened from 1994 ninety- fifth year, lalarification began 118 ukrainian battalion of the bukovinian kuren. this is ternopil, this territory. a bukarinsky root was created there, he came to kiev, two battalions were created from him, 115, 118 and the first

company, elite, 118, of the ukrainian battalion - these are ukrainian nationalists of the melnikovites of the bukarinsky kuren, the second and third companies are recruited ethnic ditch these logos and symbols . now i am fighting why they are fighting under these logos, because in 1995 at that time he was absolutely alive, he died on the ninety-fourth. if not wrong in the year of life. e, hook, the last executioner, and you are not in 1995. think about it and become an honorary citizen of your city. chernivtsi, moreover, in chernivtsi , you can score on the internet immediately for money. katyuka was from a statue was cast in the form of the archangel michael where is it written? the hero of the bukovinian kuren and below the symbolism in the form of crazy swords

tells us that the leadership further published several books dedicated to the bukovinian root of ukrainian historians, where they show this combat unit. as a unit, who fought for the independence of ukraine without saying a word about the crimes that took place on the territory of belarus the moment when those who start screaming about vasyura again. do not forget that this 27-year-old man voluntarily went over to the side of the enemy and went through the ukrainian school of propagandists. in berlin, he professed the same ideology and did not fundamentally differ from that first company in ukrainian smoking, these things we must remember and we must remember that i will finish the movie now, that the genocide of belarus was multi-layered germans were well aware of all ethnic nationalisms all the claims of our neighbors to ours. territorial integrity used them and i am deeply convinced that we will not violate the friendship of peoples if we tell that the latvian fascists, who

then all joined, the latvian legions of the ss a before that were in punitive police battalions slaughtered to stop the community. and it will be right, when we tell how the ukrainians were cut out, the ukrainian nationalists will give, how the lithuanians destroyed, minsk minsk. surroundings, borisov lithuanian nationalists. why is it important? yes, because in their homeland they are proclaimed heroes, and we must stop these things. maybe they are the lord of our people , the lord in power. that is. here, yes, wait. ah, lithuanians. here alexandrovich's games are very good. the topic is raised now e. lithuania is hosting an exhibition of paintings by the lithuanian artist idis, who was a member of the lithuanian battalion, which is again in quotation marks. he became famous here in belarus, which means that as far as kirill is concerned, what you said, uh, so that people would know, uh, facts about

khatyn about other things. we hold a large number of dialogue platforms. we go to the teams, tell the investigation about the results. and you know, these names are already today. here sounded franz ate, not unknown. nadezhda abramova italy arseniev we can punish someone, at least publicly symbolically. of course, we can question what we are faced with, that the first is happening, and sometimes abundance, the second, that not all of ours. unfortunately, citizens know, but this kind of historical figures with a sign minus and when you start to tell about the coloboxan formations that were here during the great patriotic war, those swastikas , those stripes that they wore, it causes a lively genuine interest. and when we bring it to the masses. e. this is the same

coverage of this issue, when no one can distort, falsify or somehow beg cyril to add a couple of points a little. first. well, is it necessary to build a national policy on the truth? well, you don’t have to be an idealist, because here you are. today, belarusians tell each husband and wife if the truth and facts and half of the family are about them, so i’m telling the truth, so uh, it’s true, and let ’s adults, any historical science is interpreted by the political class, based on historical understanding, so what is the task we must know the whole truth and the surgeon knows much more than the kid. if you go to restaurants you will know everything how they cooked. maybe you don’t want to eat, so we must put emphasis on what corresponds to our national interests. here are the experts, they let the whole truth in, because i have. there are archives and

so on, so you don't have to be an idealist. well , why do i promise, then later, why didn't we make accents, for example, on ukrainian nationalism. why didn’t we present an invoice in europe because we traded for 18 billion euros, because we did not see a threat to our national interests, and these radical currents were not directed at us with a spear, you understand, yes, the poles hung their flag in august 2020 and we are a friend thought about it. give historical errors. these crimes behaved delicately beautifully and did not kindle the third world war in europe. maybe we wouldn't have to. that's all. uh, so let's say out of line, but today we are forced to use this tool, again, but the tool is fair here today is what the prosecutor general's office is doing. she uh, presents uh, i don't say an account in terms of money, but just an account in terms of uh and moral and well, it means historically, israel in which we

did not want to talk just because we wanted to vadim holocaust, israel or the armenian genocide - these are the same things. they do not always come to finance. yes, i do. let's try to bring us back to today. now, if guided, but by your logic about whether you need to know the truth or not? here we are now talking about and hearing about what you will never know. i'm telling you the truth. now someone has been arrested. that's it, i'll be back. uh, to the very same urinals of gennady arkach, i want to discuss this topic with you. but it could be done, in principle, in a different way, if leadership of sociology. eh, vadima, yes, then, why, in principle, the public should know that something happened there, they figured out, uh, they decided and why someone was detained in something, after that, circles believe.

let's have a little bit of the modern history of such a negative social political criminological phenomenon as extremism, because until recently we didn’t know extremism in belarus at all, what an extremist is for us - these were, and football fans and b anarchists, whom we knew from russian news about chechens who could be caught, how to put preschool children on a bench and threaten them with the finger in the twentieth year. the whole country was faced with the fact that it was an attack, moreover, such a global extremism, but on the scale of the whole country. and it was and it wasn't dozens. and not even hundreds or even thousands of people. it is naive to believe that extremism is now in belarus. there is no terrorist attack machulishchakh, and this only confirms in other words. we left the mass and came to three things. extreme latency radicalization, that is, the ability to

commit acts of sabotage of terrorist attacks and any actions, as they say, of direct action, and the third point is organization, that is, conspiracy is deeply conspiratorial cells. and a. extremists and terrorists call the underground concrete. well, they like it so much, they play death underground. yes, it means that the act of terrorism in machulishchi confirms this, because the performer came to us from ukraine and assisting him, and the assistance is very competent. they were, uh, organized on the principle of a reconnaissance group, where one person does not know the other person. so they provided assistance, a to our fugitives and b to the self- radicalized citizens who sat in the underside and waited in the wings. all the most under the plinth and we must talk about them. that is why we must be honest with our people with our own. citizens that is why we immediately literally on the air. we identified the terrorist within a day. yes, they told

how it happened. what are we doing now? a? well, if someone likes it, you can say that a systemic, and an event that, well, i will not be shy of expressions can be called a sweep of the normal word is absolutely normal. it is understandable it is accepted sewage. we are never wrong. we come to those people who play underground. it's not naive. believes that modern ways of communication. the same vpn-services messengers and so on and so on allows them to remain anonymous no, and when we come to them, when they come to them omon almaz sobr gubop they behave like up to a scale? oh, i did not know and cry. eh, hide well they said that to get infected and just pick it up. it's impossible about what to promote extremists.

well, let's explain for those who are experiencing there contributed to the experiment or did not contribute, because from a legal point of view there is quite, as it were, a sensible, uh, definition of this action here. well, actually the criminal code. we don't have a closed one. book. it can be bought at any store of admirers, who read in the top 5, probably the books necessary for belarus, who gave the article aiding. it's absolutely clear written to aid extremism absolutely by design. it is no different in complicity with theft, robbery, robbery, or taking a bribe. this is assistance in any form. starts providing information and ends. and well, some kind of material assistance financing, extremist activities, these are realistic activities. this is a criminal act for a moment. once again i want to repeat. you don't have to believe. this, of course, is very convenient, but you don’t need to believe that these people are somehow mistaken there.

they understand everything perfectly, then it turns out that the commission for the fugitives, in principle, will not pass the test, no one is right . we have a terribly dictatorial state. i always compared i say, look how this whole thing works. in latvia , the same thing, i watched the belarusian television 700 euro fine. in lithuania, they brought a tank and put it in front of the parliament. and then there is the initiative. let's criminalize those who bring flowers. this really a dictatorship. or, after all , the state has the right only to seek to defend itself. yes, he continued thinking about the attacks. that's what was important moisturizing. that is, as the president said, such an operation requires the sanction of the head of state of the neighboring state, that is, they have not carried out such operations before. today. this sanction has been received and we must wait for this kind of repetition, therefore, the harder we answer the piss, the

better this lesson will be than therefore, the reaction is absolutely understandable. before that, we had problems there with the ukrainian services there polish, but this is an operational game. she was on all the time. and what about the preparation of terrorist attacks? this is a completely new call. and this is what is happening today on a massive scale in russia, look what exversions there are attempts at acts of terrorism. this is all very interrupted allowed themselves to add. you know what our terrorist said, uh, who, when we apprehended him, he said fighter almaz men. just don't kill me, i 'll tell you everything. that is, they perfectly understand their measure of responsibility, in general, this is terrorism and extremism a terrible infection there should be a tough intersection, they understand that in the belarusian state, belarusian law enforcement officers will not play democracy with anyone, if you are terrorism, extremist terrorists, answer, listen, well, i remember perfectly, then the meeting with the president, when it was just about about the creation of this commission for whites, and then he said that we have a separate category of citizens who

are abroad. it is clear that they will never apply to this commission, but in case we do not negotiate with them conduct and with them the conversation will be one. when i spoke from the question, well, as if asking a question about what could be, well, really genocide. uh, we want to legalize to accept in our country to prove that it was precisely in order for some armed formations to come there, not unknown to us, fugitive in poland and somehow tuk-tuk-tuk. hello, we are here for you. in order for the mossad to be afraid of us, maybe the belarusian special services should be afraid too. i think i'm asking the air question, because i understand that no official person. it won't confirm it for me. well, all masat did not ask anyone for any international sanctions. the jewish state drenched everywhere everyone whom it considered its enemies , blessed and destroyed. well, sometimes mistakes turned out to be blown up instead of one arab-10. well, they did it, and

they found everyone who destroyed their olympic team and destroyed everyone, and the state is the only structure that has the right to legitimate use of violence. and if for a nation- state a strong state some bastard bottom violates its order and tries destroy its citizens. the point is the honor of the special services of the state to eliminate this scum. that's all colleagues. what in general? why is there sometimes an increase in the repressive function of the state, that is, it is carried out by the bodies that the legislation of belarus has the right to do. there is a revolution. there is a reaction. there is an existential threat to the country and we are obliged, that is, viewers are often manipulated into saying belarus repression, poor unfortunates. well, you want something calmly fell asleep today, so that you can take a walk in the evening with your family and not be afraid. you do you want to go to the store in peace? remember year twenty. i remember you and i more than

when we held some kind of meeting with the press. i say i agree thank you for today. it's been 2-3 months already. after these events, that this morning we calmly arrived without beeps, but instead of this meeting, that we see france on tv today, we want this to be destroyed dances, so colleagues here need to be understood. none today. there are no goals in belarus, there are sadists among law enforcement officers. no one does their duty risking their lives. i took out family. picked it up in a trash can. salt the death of sobr and he had a one-year-old child , his wife and drove his grandmother, because he did not know who wrote and the neighbor had this disgusting thing in the twentieth year, you understand, they risked saving their lives. this is pure experimentation. listen today belarusians. with all our kindness of humanity, we must understand that these measures are necessary. like a surgeon, sometimes you have to perform a serious operation so that the body does not specifically grow and die. today we are saving the state countries. moreover, these people all work

under the patronage of the special services, often being a tool, without realizing it , you understand, that is, they blindly use it, and many many realize it concretely. yes, and what is, in principle, more terrible, because since the twentieth year, although someone may believe that some were mistaken and others were not mistaken, 3 years have passed normally, but at the beginning of the program they dismantled this does not happen. i already understood this, even, let's say that there are those who have no one, nothing is normal. a convinced well, it turns out that a was enough time to figure it out and certainly now separately those who still believe they can create ready.