you understand the deputy president in the berlin police, and he was considered an accomplice of the regime, vladimir only had telephone conversations with the head of the police department. although, in general, his message was such, what to ask? how many how many killed how many wounded there are no dead, not a single seriously wounded, there are some minor abrasions and scratches during such an operation. you yourself understand that the professionalism of the employees was fired, that something is not clear. well, this is one example. why am i, in general, professionals? wherever they did not understand what work with the masses is today, how it should take place, but konstantinovich influences about the twentieth year. so, how would you proceed? just like our security officials know, i begin to understand with age. well, that must be nerve-wracking. that's all the same , you're doing the right thing, they send us to retire. at

a certain age, i probably would have acted even harder. there is, uh, so much of all this injustice and understanding of that, after all, this flower and a white bracelet. many perceived. it's ah-ah-ah, what is it is this happening? are there any peaceful ones? i already knew then, and my followers, the conspirators , understood that this bracelet would later end in handcuffs. and here it is, uh, seeming calm. this will result in a huge protest. and in great disobedience and violated, i understood it then. and when , like this, the special forces officers simply stood, holding their elbows. and uh, somewhere there was something limited and so on. i would have probably acted more harshly with this category then. well, not at all, i understand everyone your opinion. i'm just speaking as a professional, as a person who understands, what could it be like the opinion that they are soft

in general themselves, especially considering there is nothing to become at all, considering how our opponents, let's say, conducted yes, the dehumanization of law enforcement officers, uh, they were constantly insulted and uh, and treated by their families, wives, children, and so on, then i also think that their behavior was rather mild. by the way, i'm not alone in my opinion. my family supported me with friends. i know many of my colleagues. eh, no one doubted. here's my environment, on the contrary. we've been following very closely. probably the second day i was already there with my colleagues of the veterans' organization; people had exactly the executive committee. after the protesters tried to seize the building of the internal affairs directorate there, we also met with veteran activists and, uh, we connected with our activists via video link. so, here, in order to encourage and support somewhere. we understood that this is the opala that began. thanks to this frame of channels , these are well-thought-out actions. you're understandable, not

paid, and at the same time, uh, it's not cheap everything is worth it, and we understood it all very well, and here are these assaults on police officers. how do you talk about humanization and so on , you had to be ready for all this . and, of course, for a simple layman to try and explain and tell, well , maybe there was no need to explain. today , i don't even need to explain. yes , everyone already understands what even poland itself is saying. how much money did she live you, that is, well, as if all the cards were already open. if someone else resists and talks about some kind of clubs, but this is already very necessary to be too naive, another important point. i have to say about this in 2006. both in 2010 and here there are briefings, however, remember, well, under the head of state, too, there and so on. i still remember the president's words at one place of the meeting. he said, roughly, with trembling

hands, you can't stand the power. and you can’t sit on two chairs, he turned to law enforcement officers. but the way it is, see ukraine and when our guarantor of our security is with us. i make a decision about carrying out a wax operation to eliminate the consequences of this or to disperse a demonstration. let's say, yes, in the square, i didn't think about any consequences. i knew that i was operating within the normative field. and what i heard from the guys. yes, it's worth it. do you understand when you 're serving and uh, understand what you're serving for? and who is behind your back is some kind of opposition, our guys well done, they are really handsome with restraint clearly they endured this pain they endured humiliation, but they won the news survived. sorry family disintegrated, we know such cases, that is, not

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generation of police officers has grown up, they are more literate, they are more advanced, they have a different attitude to everything, and the result. here. he is in his own face. i live in minsk area. i calmly go to sleep. maybe sometimes even the door can't lock there. yes? it 's, uh, that an achievement is an achievement quite right, we are walking around the city of minsk. yes, in any way, any corner of our light. red belarus we feel safe. eh, there are some manifestations, they have always been and will be. uh, here, but the ability is in the police today. it is appropriate, i have repeatedly convinced myself of this, my friends, so i bow down and say. thanks to the law enforcement agencies for the fact that everything that began a long time ago did not the name continues, moreover, continues on a higher quality in security, this merit

is not only, uh, law enforcement. eh, the citizens themselves also have to do something and are doing it. he might start with you. i remember when i was ashamed to wear the uniform of a police officer. here, in the period when the soviet union collapsed, first by the nineties, when they looked at us as pariahs, not only at militia workers, specifically military men, and so on. and again, i note that this is only thanks to alexander lukashenko only thanks to the president we have become what we have become, we are proud of the uniform, we are proud that we serve in the police, and this is to dignity, and now it continues. see. how many cadet classes are being created. how many colleges how many institutes that train not only the ministry of internal affairs and the ministry of emergency situations of the ministry of internal affairs of the border troops, customs officers and so on. of course, this is due to the fact that there is an understanding of everyone who is on the part of the citizens, who goes to serve in the police? well excuse me. mom won't give up. you me well done!

three out of six children. you gave it to the police. yes, one general, two lieutenant colonels. how are you capable of that? this is what the son needs to be defended by someone and the motherland. yes, like this, uh, not every mother will give. eh, and today you are already doing prestigious again. there is a competition and so on. here is probably the answer to these questions. whether the citizens themselves are already involved in helping you, that is, well, once upon a time we are discussing. they talked about the fact that in european countries, neighbors complain about each other, if they suddenly see that they didn’t wash the windows while drunk, they didn’t wash the windows there or something else some disrupt the law and order. we did not accept this. yes, it was considered some kind of quality. yes accepted not accepted. i would not cite here exactly, uh, western countries, it's not clear. what was his purpose for calling? this neighbor needs to be looked at. what were you chasing after? they don’t

do anything just like that, uh, and for the sake of society and the concept of morality, they didn’t do anything. unfortunately, this is probably their shortcoming, and with them and while the republic is present in our country, everything is different. but if we're serious about saying what, what, so, uh, the quality we have, uh, there is a whole movement of young oxygen traffic. i 'm not saying that there will be a visionary right away, call and say that ah-ah-ah, there the drunk neighbor got behind the wheel. but how much they do in matters of prevention of violations of the law , violation of traffic rules and so on, because a society is being created. which is not something that is irreconcilable to the fact that someone violates. they themselves minimize these violations ; now it has become fashionable to be obedient fashionable to go to the gym to do fitness. well, a little different values, thank god it's gone, the time when nothing could be decided without 100 g. look, well, you also had a hand in banning

the sale of alcohol at night. what do you think? this is your life, you know? the solution was not to ban the decision to live and something and offered and offered, and a whole range of measures was being developed. that is, it was necessary to hook it to the living for something. uh, of course, it was very economically unprofitable for someone at night. well, he will give an example, for example, going around, there the vitebsk region of the future chief. the internal affairs directorate arrived in ushatsky, in my opinion, the district, and i just surprised. ushachy how many inhabitants there? i don't know, there are 5.000 gone and with the district of the place. there would be 30-40.000 five night-lights and everyone works, around the clock, and there is a crowd , i thought to myself, and so on, that you already understand something like this, yes, and yet the goal was not to ban, a ban, you will not achieve anything. the goal was to expose the problem so that everyone would start up, but uh, then uh, so i

remember that at one of the meetings, mayor vladimir yakovlevich pavlov, the kingdom in heaven, this clever is a wonderful person. this he did so much for the city of minsk and i was lucky and said that it’s right , let’s think, but do they need only these nightlights, when the problem is exposed, there are measures and ways to solve these problems. how does this affect the rule of law? it's hard to talk about it now, uh hmm, but in general, everyone began to turn to the problem in a different way. this, probably, is the main kind of train such that you can’t buy it, it remains, yes, that is, it’s no longer not like it’s free. as you say, they did not come to the store on foot. residents of the area it is clear that each of them was driving, and it was a participant, uh, and a potential victim of an accident here. yes, and saved from something. eh, quite right, after all, but uh such a goal that it’s all just to ban it and in

no case, we probably didn’t have such thoughts. yes, we understood that this, probably , will not achieve the result, who, well, exactly in the plane that we would like to achieve it, but you, uh, left the service in 2012 and went on a well-deserved rest. uh, i miss my job, of course, but my eyes won't burn very much, a new one has come generation and it is necessary to work in a new way in this progress in this and dignity. e future generations, they are much smarter. i repeat once again that the advanced ones think differently than we do, and their purpose is completely different than ours. and we are like veterans. eh, we try in every possible way , eh, to support and show in contrasts. e that their service is not as difficult as it was with us and we say that in our time. although we understand that it is very difficult to serve at all times is very difficult. although we try

not to give advice, because they themselves know what are they doing. but to tell what was e to show the true story, how it was born, where to start those who do not know the history of this heard for a very long time, but there are really a lot of questions. we didn't have time to ask. eh, it would be interesting to know in regular situations. i am sure that they were and start with arrows and end with your others there, his services in the ministry of internal affairs, but this is probably a reason to invite you again. and we will help you to write your memoirs tatyana shcherbina victoria popova for today we say goodbye, goodbye. goodbye. and now he says, leonid farmagey , we live in a very interesting time. and that now, probably more than ever, we must live as one big friendly family, think about the world , take care of the world , support the head of state. e, what is being done today by the leadership of the country for peace and tranquility, and we, as employees, are already on a well-deserved rest with honor and

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