[000:00:00;00] in the state committees of local authorities, representatives of labor collectives of industrial enterprises , agriculture, science, education, health care, the media, the diplomatic corps , delegations of all regions and the city of minsk accredited in minsk, it is planned that more than two and a half thousand people will take part in the event. i would like to emphasize once again that this is a significant fundamental event, where the president is in a dynamic, changing geopolitical situation, but this is, first of all, answers to the questions that concern our citizens. i would like to note that the president continues to work on the message of the situation, the dynamic changes almost daily and this document requires constant updating. we understand that this message is primarily an appeal to the belarusian people, but it is natural that the audience will be

significant. and this is another opportunity for the head of state to convey the state position of our country to the peoples of those countries of communication with which, due to certain circumstances and the aggravation of international situation and a certain geopolitical confrontation are somewhat lost in the speech about deepening ties in several areas at once, improving the investment climate in the union state, developing the it market, as well as improving the quality of life of the inhabitants of belarus russia through social programs , an agency of strategic initiatives of a non-profit organization, created at the initiative of the president of russia, a special pays attention to monitoring russian regions, and also supports talented young people , start-ups and medium-sized businesses. in the near future the agency expects to expand its work and in our country we want to know about the programs about the priorities in the social sphere of the republic of belarus. what kind of projects do you

do? rates and law enforcement is at a very high level, but in the republic it is the same as it is enshrined. there, at the level of legislation, the volgograd region of russia was also visited by a representative delegation of belarus headed by the prime minister , negotiations were held with the leadership of this russian region, visits to a number of enterprises resulted in the signing of new contracts for the supply of belarusian goods and equipment in the amount of 7 million 800,000 dollars, speaking about the economic component of cooperation, the prime minister of belarus noted that the trade turnover between belarus and the volgograd region has been steadily growing only last year, this figure has increased one and a half times in minsk, the congress of young scientists continues belarus and russia, which brought together about 500 of the best minds of the two countries , welcomed the participants by the heads of state in belarus and russia about holding a forum on the basis of the belarusian academy of sciences in december last year. agreed by alexander lukashenko and vladimir

putin, now it's time to synchronize the clock. discuss the latest achievements in specific areas and share developments that are important for the union state for our scientists contribution to the technological independence of the union state it’s not that western pressure seems to stimulate this cooperation in the union treaty for more than 20 years, the decision of the heads of state is the adoption of 28 programs of union interaction and those conversations at the plenary session at section tables. this is once again confirmed by pharmaceutics cosmos high technology, the agricultural sector, and the humanities in dozens of areas. this is also the foundation for reconciling the position of those people who determine the future of russian belarusian science for decades, fallen trees, broken power lines, accidents and drifts on the roads for the second day in belarus, an orange level of danger due to snowfall and wind , a weather plan has been introduced in minsk snow is handled by utilities.

there had been a lot of accidents the day before. many cars ended up in a ditch dps focused on helping road users. power engineers continue to work in an enhanced mode in the vitebsk and minsk regions, 48 ​​teams are working to restore power supply , 51 pieces of equipment are involved. you have a crime solved on the first try, there must be at least two false suspects , uncle, misha, be careful something a miracle of technology, by the way , if you are such an expert in the field of investigating a crime, maybe you yourself will be swept away by this, well, of course, you stole

material evidence this weekend on belarus 24 tv channel.

hello, on the air, the program is authorized to declare. i am her host nadezhda sas greetings to you. i remember. this is a program for those who want to better understand what is happening in the world and understand how these events are people of the etiquette of the week, we will tell you right now. at the beginning of the week, president xi jinping made a three-day visit to moscow. the west made great efforts to disrupt the smu cause, but the visit still took place . president xi made it clear that he generally shares moscow’s approaches to the ukrainian crisis, and is also set to further develop allied relations with russia actually supported, thrown by them, the challenge to the american-centric world order, a place

that is in the dustbin of history. the french president despite mass protests and discontent and achieve resignation governments ended in failure until they led to large-scale demonstrations on the streets of french cities. at the same time, the police do not particularly stand on ceremony with the protesters , they use a strike if it causes significant damage to the state. the polish ambassador to france, jan emeryk , said on the air of a local tv channel that if ukraine is defeated, poland itself , the official warsaw of the ukrainian army, will enter the war with russia. the scale of the supply of arms and ammunition pressure on the republic of belarus will not be an exaggeration of the assertion that poland de the fact is already a participant in the conflict with minsk and moscow and today's discussion.

i want to start with a quote from a french writer of jewish origin, witnesses of the rise and fall of the third reich, romain garry, patriotism is love for one's own. nationalism is hatred of others about why the line between the first and the second is so easily erased before our eyes and about what unlearned lessons of history led to the revival of the virus of nazism in europe and today's program will be discussed. i am glad to welcome you to our the studio is already present natalya selyukina, executive director of the foundation, historical memory. hello igor margalek. chairman of the constancy to come true issues brown plague returned to europe oleg to some extent, yes, maybe, of course, not comparable, but on a scale with what it was in the middle of the 20th century, but much more than those who were in their forties could imagine in the fifth year , the third reich defeated natalya, your opinion. i believe that there are all the prerequisites for what we talked about today about what we do not have today it is aimed precisely at the formation of such an information field, which both dehumanizes us and belittles our honor and dignity of culture, therefore

, i think that it is primarily in such forms that it is being revived, e, the ideology of crypto-nazism, and primarily in the region of eastern central europe which is connected with the destruction of the soviet union and the formation of new national identities, but the historical narrative of those states where the basis of historical politics is a selective representation of the image of national heroes, uh, which i take as a national hero. naturally the quotation marks that appear in the historical. uh, that choice of the path that the already sovereign republics of the former soviet union have taken for the sake of objectivity. it must be said that such approaches were typical not only for belarus, ukraine , the baltic states, but also for russia, well, remember the attempts to show vlasov as a hero of the russian resistance and those who collaborate after the ninety-first

year. it was connected with the fact that the information field, including the historical filled with texts of those who were abroad , we see these things today in very bright relief. well, and, accordingly. this is an absolutely conscious reading of the history of the second world war with a clearly expressed one. well, in fact, today we see that the effect of vaccinations from nazism received, and the world after the second world war of the nuremberg trials begins to weaken, we go in 2023 , twenty-second twenty-one, that is, this trend has been visible over the past ten years. if we take ukraine as an example, you know if we let's look closely at the taxes of the vaccine, indeed, uh, the different results of, say, the fight against coronavirus in

different countries are manifested in particular, uh, that there is a difference in how this vaccine was used, to whom it was prescribed, uh, once, twice, and so on , in exactly the same way and in a much more complex phenomenon, if public, like the nazi ideology, of course, but by its own definition, zinc, as a radical form of nationalism. it easily falls on any soil, especially when it comes to some young nations that are looking for its place in the world only in the very core, that is, in fact, in fascist germany to some extent in japan and even in italy , uh, full - fledged gefashization analysis was carried out, and that, and the role of society , all responsibility was assigned almost personally to gi. his inner circle and even more so, this was not carried out on the territory of the soviet union, where it was announced that vlasov and so on were mentioned. these are the renegades collaborators could be a soviet person infected with the virus of nazism , the same applied to the countries of eastern europe

since. they entered the soviet bloc, they immediately forgave everything and immediately forgot that not only germany fought, but there was a hungarian fascist, there was romanian fascism even in poland, despite the fact that she herself suffered colossally from the nazi occupation. and there was active complicity in the holocaust and so on. well, not to mention the fact that already in 48, comrade stalin himself became interested in anti-semitism, and many things that were necessary and possible, but let's say through the educational system through understanding to introduce into the consciousness of generations , the same monument, tragedies, murders of jews were not made. and in this sense, of course, now we are reaping the benefits. eh, it started where it started. i'm just one important example that i know well and the eighties and nineties

of non-thinking. and unfortunately, as we see through various information channels to the media, this has become such an extreme for hmm representatives, let's say the military

departments and so on. that is, in particular with support. e state, and the elites of the baltic states are sent to groups of national soldiers get some experience, but not to mention the fact that there is also, of course, the moment of pursuing personal e, goals and pragmatic ones, because i don’t think that it’s only in the fact that they go there i’ll call from their nazi, as it were, inspiration yes , in reserve of some kind of such conviction, and first of all, they don’t understand that in the future the results of such a struggle can, uh, say bring me some dividends. e dividends. including, for example, the acquisition of land to influence oneself is a threat from all points of view, not only one's own, but also political well and cultural humanitarian. i can't help but recall the lines of the legendary lines. let's remember everyone, let's understand over grief, let's remember our own, it's not the dead who need it. it must be alive these lines from the requiem. ma robert rozhdestvensky touched

me as a child, but it has acquired particular relevance in recent years, when we see the creeping revival of a terrible tribal dialogues to representatives of others hence the thoughtless copying of the slogan daughter. land was removed, which, by the way, we often hear from the lips of ukrainian nationalists. but today, the great patriotic war has become a real tragedy for belarus , one of the symbols of the suffering of innocent civilians and victims of the inhuman reprisals of the nazis and their accomplices was the hotel, on march 22, 1943, the villagers shot quickly. this is a tragedy. as well as thousands of such monstrous crimes. committed during the great

patriotic war is forever carved in stone and about 11,000 villages were destroyed in the heart of a generous, forgiving person during the great patriotic war, the terrible, chilling testimony of the survivors formed the basis of the accusation against those who committed these horrific crimes, we did not previously emphasize that most of the countries of western europe rose under the banner of nazi germany and capital paid for this approach. today they are imposing sanctions against us , they have unleashed economic, informational ones into punishers, too, let me remind you how in the distant forty -first, the belarusian land turned into one big death camp. how were people burned?

they crushed with tanks, drowned, shot with direct fire from heavy guns, how they buried children alive saving bullets and sprayed over our cities and villages, poisonous substances for the crimes of the nazis and their accomplices in the occupied territory of belarus during the great patriotic war has no analogues database belarusian villages burned during the great patriotic war. it contains documented, confirmed information about the villages destroyed by the nazis, half the battle for the fact of the genocide of the belarusian people during the great patriotic war and after the war period. mark, we are striving to establish the places of residence of the living executioners from the es, and that they stick, either before the court those states where they are now hiding, or serious work has been extradited for the administration of justice. today we are working on the formation of documents and forms. it has the legal conditions for our national courts to condemn, including in absentia, including dead nazi criminals, in order to

decision to confirm their specific atrocity on the territory of the fsr, over the past two years , it was possible to identify specific individuals from among the german invaders and their accomplices, who had previously been able to avoid responsibility for their crimes. among them are nazis from ukraine, lithuania, latvia, poland, in total , at least 400 nazis live in different countries of the world, who are involved in crimes on the territory of belarus, while the baltic countries and poland categorically refuse to contribute to the investigation of the genocide, according to opinion of local authorities. the fulfillment of such a request will allegedly damage the sovereignty and security and their lord of civilians, and on the example of neighboring states, where monuments are destroyed and rewritten, history can be seen how modern neo-nazism has raised its head. we see how they wake up. ukrainian lithuanian and polish punishers who threw our

children, old men and women, into the fire. therefore, we are obliged. and we will do everything to preserve in history the feat of the generation of soviet people who have honorably passed their lesson of courage and active heroism. russia provided assistance to our country as noted in the prosecutor general's office, cooperation with the russian side is proceeding at a high level in this area. last year, moscow and minsk created a joint investigative and operational group to investigate criminal cases of genocide in less than 2 years. the investigation established previously unknown facts about 1,300 rural settlements that suffered during the occupation at the hands of punishers, including at least 30 villages, the fate of which is similar. it is the killers of traitors in

whom the gene of hatred for us has awakened again. throughout slavic civilization. filtering peoples to meet the new standard has been going on for a long time. through the color revolutions, it is not we belarusians who speak rebellions, there are no excuses clearly and loudly. politics of genocide. there is nothing more important than human life. one cannot but agree with this, and right now a member of the european parliament is connecting to our broadcast. miroslav rodachevsky miroslav i am glad to welcome you to our program. thank you hello everyone, your father participated in the liberation of kiev all his youth . please tell me, your father could imagine

imagine that fascism will be reborn again on the land that it is with its blood, who do not like hungarians, gypsies and other national minorities. why are young people today addicted to radicals? ideas and how to deal with it, in your opinion, how do you bring up your children and your grandchildren? i think that in slovakia it's not so bad sexvideonism. it must be said that slovakia is counted in

the population. because a lot of slovak people during fascism during nazism and they are people, but there are some small groups extremists, but this is not much. i think that they were our children during the war, and i say that this is the opinion of the majority today in the european parliament, where many of those whose parents survived the holocaust through families suffered from lyricism today turn a blind eye to the fact that neo-nazism has become part of

the state ideology in ukraine hitler because the young people of western europe do not know history, there is a big ideology propaganda against, for example, russians they do not objectively talk about the causes of the war in ukraine, they say that there is no young people of western europe do not understand his nazism and do not tell them anything, for example, babinyar, kiev, where a thousand euros were destroyed, they do not say anything, for example, in a bank. what

happened? so the squeak will be forever. we have to work to work, between people, we have to work in europe. so it's true, it's true, this is the future, the future, the future. i wish you good luck. in this work in the european parliament. in order to convey the truth to the truth of your colleagues. and, of course, i want to thank you for your participation. i take this opportunity to invite you to visit the republic belarus but very much the father wants. he heard what

i was saying when i spoke, but i had him at all on me. thank you very much, igor, we recalled the khatyn tragedy and the ukrainian 118th police battalion 80 years ago , which destroyed khotyn, was formed by the nazis in october 1942 in kiev . tell me, do the majority of belarusians know that the perpetrators of the terrible khotyn tragedy were not germans. today they already know, but if we talk about the policy that was carried out throughout, both before the acquisition of independence and after her belarusian educational system did not have an installation that it is not necessary to focus attention on these moments on accomplices. there are people to whom i still have a controversy, and narrowly and not focusing on these things is fundamentally wrong in my textbooks, including those on the history of belarusian statehood, except for the holocaust. a hundred and

mass extermination of jews, the germans, the nazis , very jewelry used all our neighbors to us ukraine ukrainian radical nationalists always dreamed of taking belarusian polissya territory of brest and gomel regions in separate. uh, let’s say that the kibattalions should be talked about, at least, because in ukraine, not yesterday, not today , and not three or four years ago, and not 10 years ago , the glorification of these things began, but a classic example is bukovinian kuren, which turned out to be two battalions, 115, 118, the first company, the 118th battalion, which burned khatyn - this is just part of the bukovina horse from chernivtsi who managed to check in, just a woman, but already in the ninety-fifth year books have been published in ukrainian historiography in which we read an apologia 118. it is melnikov not bandera at the cost of melnikov well, the organization of ukrainian nationalists was divided into bandera’s melnikov. their leaders and they

took an active part, but when we fill in the search engine, which pops up a soviet officer, vasyura, burned khatyn. and yes, he was the commander of the red army, but he voluntarily went over to the german side, he went through the ukrainian nazi school of propagandists in germany, he professed the same ideology as his subordinates, but in 1995 in chernivtsi the last killer khatynka, a trick that was not given to anyone, became an honorary citizen of ukraine by an honorary citizen of the mountains. paphos is called the hero of bukovinian smoking for belarusians. if you translate into the correct language, the language of the hero of those who burned and enough is understandable, but the most important thing is what happened and is happening. this is the glorification of bastards by a scoundrel. i am deeply convinced that no national idea can be based on people who destroyed the civilian population, there are no such ideas in the name of which an armed man can enter. locality and

to destroy the civilian population of this and is called nazism in its purest form, therefore, the question arises whether the ukrainians succeed. they were not alone here. i heard you, please, we still have other speakers. i beg your pardon, then it’s unlikely that young people will have certain sympathies for ukrainian nationalists. the belarusian fugitive position cultivates a cult of the same heroes from belarusian nationalists who faithfully served adolf hitler and took an active part in punitive operations against their people. i want to remind you the french ram, who personally participated in the liberation of the dachau concentration camp, in his speech in the post said it where they sincerely chant. glory to you, death to thieves , somewhere in the depths, the chorus begins to sound. the goal of all forms of nazism is of the same nature, alett. here, please tell me how ukraine got infected with this if, in your opinion,

dear colleague, uh, correctly raised questions and brought out a good quote that the matter of informal characters. uh, this, by the way, is a problem, by the way, the soviet one historiography. ah. although this, to be honest, is now enough in ukraine, then you are an automatic fascist. and if you do not do this, but simply think that you are the name of some idea, and representatives of another nation, without exception, including children, can be destroyed. come on, no matter how you are, probably not a very good person there, but definitely not a fascist. right now we see, unfortunately, against the backdrop of, the tragedy of the conflict on the territory of our country. and we see how easy it is. uh, the broad masses, moreover, well, most of them often, unfortunately, torture in russian prisoners of war they. uh, let's say, at least there, in the best case, with understanding, well, they certainly don't condemn the judicial executions of those who are on the territory, and when we look at it all, when we see this video, oh, who boasted from the villain. and the fat from us to the corps

as people are shot in raisins, and thrown into the pit. how is this different from a house? who cares? in fact? yes, and jolie is also, in fact, nazism, of course, and they are all there in their nature, but it still breaks through. and now with half of the conflict on ukrainian tanks crosses. the same exactly as the german tanks were of world war ii raise the question. well, or there are completely idiots, yes, that is , you know, yes inside, and this feeling is all permissiveness. well, here you are. this, in theory, is logical to me, but, as it were, direct accusations from russia that zelensky also does not have a nazi regime in ukraine and the company should at any cost, e.g., prevent such at least obvious manifestations. although in essence. anyway, this readiness to exterminate all the russians there and everyone who showed sympathy for the russians or everyone who questioned the official nature of the conflict, this is nazism. after all, nazism. this is not a specific symbol, but even at the level of symbols it all breaks through and now photographs are already appearing. yes, when a russian warrior a descendant of a veteran of the red army who knocked out

a german tank there on the kursk bulge today is also a ukrainian tank under the bat, on which exactly the same crosses. and that i, as ukrainians, for example, can argue with the russians a thousand times over what is happening, but in this photo, for example, there is nothing to answer, because from russia, namely, the flag of that force that is considered to be absolute evil, so that there is no bad thing in modern russia , it is impossible to justify, and dressing up in nazi clothing and direct analogies with what we continued to do the third reich. so then they could not in modern ukraine, this ideology manifested itself equally manifested itself at the moment. i think you remember very well what shouts what words the veterans of the great patriotic war heard in their address

of the war that , having come to lay flowers at the eternal fire with the st. this is indeed a very important question, namely the question of responsibility, the question of law. and how does this affect the development of political institutions in general. and we have years as various oppression of the russian-speaking population, russians and belarusians, who lived abroad at that time and such discrimination was recorded in various documents of the mead and russia which is called democracy, yes, and respect for human rights when it came to protecting the rights of the russian-speaking population in everyday life in work in the cultural sphere in politics. there's not even anything to talk about, yes, and the question. that 's it about the fact that if there really is a chance, uh, somehow our fund gave up. uh, the publication, which was called the last chance for justice. and now i remembered this, why did we

understand the question of whether it is possible punish, but the living former ss men, and their europe of latin america, and now we asked this question a few years ago, and in my opinion. now there is such a wonderful analogy from the point of view of the question, yes, the formulation of the problem, but unfortunately the conclusions are also disappointing , just as we voiced it a couple of years ago. why at first you don’t even understand, this is a state. what i mean, is it lithuania , latvia, or, after all, ukraine, because everything is in yellow and blue colors with stripes with portraits of bandera zelensky, and of course, to be honest, this one arises. e, s. well arises strange taxes, even some kind of fear arises, because it creates the feeling that there is no one to talk to, because in order to resolve any conflict, it is necessary that there is an opponent on the other side. at least we were ready to leave, which initially laid down that we see how the system of international relations is being destroyed in terms of law, we see how, even from the moment they began

to prosecute nazi war criminals from the end of forty-eight in the sixties , lawsuits were the eighties every time someone managed to lick from this responsibility, therefore today, it seems to me, our task, first of all, is to be honest with ourselves. uh, remember this , talk about it, first of all, we as a historian with lawyers to discuss these questions of the historian about the air force aspects. yes, in order to understand at least what we should do, but in no case should we leave these crimes. judgment of our memory is a testament of the outstanding film director mikhail roma the film is a warning at a time when fascism seemed to have disappeared into oblivion and roma considered it is your duty to make a picture, and the nature of the emergence of nazism and what price had to be paid for this invention of the ideologues of the third reich, please pay attention to the screen. within three days after

hitler came to power, the deep meaning of these fiery performances. well, yes, they demonstrated a powerful order, they frightened aroused a person into a savage. and turn him into a savage in a solemn atmosphere. so turning them into savages felt almost like a hero, and the savage, ready for anything, was very much needed by the third. he was needed primarily in order to destroy everything that opposed nazism, everything that stood in its way. the first blow was dealt to the communists, the editors of newspaper magazines, radio, and in general everyone who dared to think otherwise than hitler thinks. and here i am looking at this in germany, in a country of great culture , semi-literate, smugly

stupid people came to power, who did everything to transform a person. crown success igor how does this happen? and how many more wars does humanity need to survive in order not to become like all this horror. well, first, let's remember here for me what shocked me the most. here in this situation of the last year this culture, the abolition. do you understand? that's it for all it would seem that throwing books in a firebox into a fire is one and the same thing, that is, an excellent culture means that one can deny not just, well, let's say, the political system of the russian federation of president putin is really a foreign policy there. and you can

deny the cultural matrix and the people as a cultural phenomenon, deny chekhov dostoevsky tolstoy monuments. pushkin, that is, people, but he also incorrectly wrote his texts about petliura. he wrote incorrectly from their point of view. from how he saw kiev during the years of the civil war, he should have been right for him, this is the concept of uniform correctness, more uniform is that this is orwell only in reading this is the ministry of truth in the form of an institution in national memory, which is in ukrainian in the case of c, they do not preserve national identity and strengthen the real historical truth, but create a new construct of historical politics by heroes. and where are the heroes, uh, scourged and defame and happen what happens oh i don't know how long it takes for all this. well,

here we are. unfortunately, we are in a post-postmodern situation, when everything is profaned, when the truth is denied objectively, when it is declared that any most idiotic judgment has the right to be discussed, because it has been spoken by someone. these overtone windows are treated only by systemic work on society with a normal high-quality education system and state control. behind all these things , once again, the conceptualists have a sea. and memory that the state of the current situation is the only force that stands above all political systems. these are political groups. this is the supreme arbiter who should set the paradigm of the historical pluralism of opinion on all things that we say is historical fact. sorry gentlemen of postmodernism. this is not a game of metaphors over a cup

of coffee, as michel foucault wrote, it is always a fragment of reality oleg what is the real risk today of europe returning to some form of mass fascism or is it still such are the horror stories of liberals, like some european experts, absolutely those political regimes, let's say the elites, who are introducing themselves into their own countries, they instill the denial of their own history in the young generations on the colonial russian and so on, but actually impose. a completely new e, in fact also a totalitarian, but only in a liberalist essence. the glorification of lgbt there racial minorities and so on. they are at the same time , uh, situationally expensive geopolitical struggle with russia. by the way, with belarus, in the first place turn, as a state with fascist projects, that is, it is absolutely obvious . that is why, for example, zelensky at the head of ukraine

will never appear to this, as if tinned , or is there some kind of beletsky leader on the corps? yes, because everyone understands that as soon as the conflict is over, when it is recognized in the west, but necessary. and all these radical nationalist movements. they will try to write off, because they, of course, interfere with them. it's the same people today, uh, burning russian books there, beating people for the russian language, because the thundering pushkin, but they also attack such parades. they are, it seems, like some of them really convinced nationalist patriots of ur. they are against the sale of ukrainian land for the sake of soros and transnational corporations and so on. of course they are obstacles, but in a war. you are not parades. sing. there , to fight with russian tanks, that's how they compare with them. ah, well, what kind of nationalist is zelensky? oh well, we are well aware that if bandera and his patrons, would have won then in the forties zelensky simply did not physically exist as a representative of the jewish people. just giving the jews. we simply didn’t, and in this

regard, of course, it’s convenient for him, but such an actor, who pulled this green shirt on himself today. yes, there he looks like the leader of a certain military resistance, and tomorrow he will remember that he is a representative of bohemia. he is quite loyal to lgbt and we, by the way, if we carefully look at our time in ukraine there, in parallel with the war ratified istanbul convention there u are created separate about it. you have already spoken on the air of some kind of division, that is , yes, yes, collectively to cope with the ginger that they are releasing today in eastern europe, for example, will they be able to really