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hello on the air, the program sas is authorized to announce and i am its host nadezhda sas greetings to you. i remember. this program for those who want to better understand what is happening in the world and understand how these processes, events, people will affect the life of everyone and the life of the country, and the main events of world politics this week. we will tell you right now at the beginning of the week , chinese president
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xi jinping made a three-day visit to moscow. the west made great efforts to disrupt the meeting of the leaders of the binuclear powers, for the sake of which the international criminal court. he even issued a warrant for the arrest of putin on a far-fetched case, but the visit still took place, the chairman of the si clearly gave to understand what generally shares moscow's approaches to the ukrainian crisis, and is also set for the further development of allied relations with russia . with the formation of an informal coalition of sovereign states to counteract western hygiene in the face of unprecedented pressure from the eu and the united states on belarus and russia, the leading non- western countries not only did not turn away from minsk and moscow, but actually supported the challenge they threw to the american-centric world order a place that is in the dustbin of history. pension reform attempts by the opposition to force the resignation of the government ended
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in failure, and large-scale demonstrations on the streets of french cities have not yet led to anything. at the same time, the police do not particularly stand on ceremony with the protesters, they use special equipment and mass arrests. the french leader himself said that the authorities should have the right to stop this or that strike if it causes significant damage to the state. polish ambassador to france jan emeryk said on the air of a local tv channel, that in the event of the defeat of ukraine , it will enter the war with russia itself. poland, official warsaw hastened to declare that the words of the diplomat were taken out of context , meanwhile, if we estimate the number of polish mercenaries in the ranks of the ukrainian army. the scale of deliveries of weapons and ammunition pressure on the republic of belarus will not be an exaggeration of the assertion that poland is de facto already a party to the conflict with minsk and moscow and today's discussion. i want to start by quoting a french writer from him to his
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nationalism is hatred of a stranger about why the line between the first and the second is so easily erased before our eyes and what unlearned lessons of history led to the revival of the nazi virus in europe and today's program will be discussed. i am glad to welcome natalya selyukina, executive director of the foundation, historical memory, already present in our studio. hello igor marlyuk, chairman of the permanent commission on education, culture and science of the house of representatives of the national assembly of the republic of belarus, doctor of historical sciences, i am glad to welcome you and oleg voloshin, ukrainian politician diplomat oleg, connects to our air via skype hello, hello, according to tradition, we begin our discussion with blitz questions brown plague has returned to europe oleg to some extent, yes, maybe, of course, incomparable with the scale with what it was in the middle of the 20th century, but much more than
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those who defeated the third reich in the forty-fifth year could imagine. natalya, your opinion. i believe that there are all the prerequisites for what we said today about the resurgence of neo-nazism, and in such ugly forms. and most of all today it is aimed precisely at the formation of such an information field , which both dehumanizes us and belittles our honor, the unworthiness of culture. therefore , i think that it is in the first place in such forms that it is being revived. igor, what do you think? i believe that we can confidently talk about not so much the ideology of nazism in its purest form. how much the ideology of kryptonazism is primarily in the region of eastern central europe which is associated with the destruction of the soviet union and the formation of new national identities, but historical the narrative of those states where the basis of historical politics is a selective representation of the image of national heroes, but which i naturally take in quotation marks as a national hero, who act
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as a cosmo-modernist in the historical narrative, as a third alternative, as people who allegedly opposed both stalin and hitler regime, and therefore they are allegedly, uh, forerunners of the choice of the path that the already sovereign republics of the former soviet union took for the sake of objectivity. it must be said that such approaches were typical not only for belarus, ukraine , the baltic states, but also for russia, well, remember the attempts to show vlasov as a hero of the russian resistance and those collaborators. well, attempts to defend dissertations with positive ropes associated with vlas. that is, she was born immediately after the ninety-first year. it was connected with the fact that the information field, including the historical one, was filled with texts of those who were abroad. and who was declared a prisoner of conscience was declared the true last
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instances and these things we see today very brightly in relief. well, and, accordingly. this is an absolutely conscious reading of the history of the second world war with a clear emphasis on showing the hypertrophied role of the one that in fact was not in the victory in the second world war of the allies of the americans, but in fact today we see that the effect of vaccinations from nazism received, and world after the second world war , the nuremberg trials begin to weaken in your opinion, what is the reason? could you have guessed this? could we imagine our ancestors, what will we come to this in 20? -23 year 221, that is, this trend has been visible over the past ten years?
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if we take the same ukraine, for example, you know, if we look closely at the taxes on the vaccine , indeed, uh, then the different results of the fight against coronavirus in different countries are manifested in particular in the fact that there is a difference in how this vaccine was used, to whom it uh was prescribed once, twice, and so on, in exactly the same uh and much more complex phenomenon. uh, public like nazi ideology of course, but by definition, these are their nations that are looking for their place in the world. eh, in that sense. let's be objective, full-fledged, this inoculation identification was carried out only in the very core , that is, in fact, fascist germany to some extent in japan and even in italy, uh, fully de-fascisation, in addition, the elimination of the immediate associates of the muslins from the leadership, and the country was not carried out, that is, no analysis was carried out, and moreover, and the role of society, all responsibility was assigned almost personally to the gi. his inner circle and even more so, this was not
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carried out on the territory of the soviet union , where it was announced that vlasov and so on were mentioned. these are collaborators from chipin, and there was no mass cooperation with the third reich, there was no mass complicity in the holocaust and there was no mass participation. uh, in the killing of civilians, which is a rare case, of course, how could a soviet person turn out to be an infected species, the same applied to the countries of eastern europe since. they entered the soviet bloc, they were immediately forgiven everything and immediately forgot that not only germany fought, and there was a hungarian fascist, there was romanian fascism, even in poland, despite the fact that she herself suffered colossally from the nazi occupation. and there was active complicity in the holocaust and so on. well, not to mention the fact that already in the year 48, comrade stalin, by the way, was semitism himself, and many things that were necessary and possible, let’s say, through the educational system, through understanding, to introduce into the consciousness of generations and that was not done that the monument is russian, but it appeared too late, that is, by itself. because it was embarrassing to say what it is
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first of all, the tragedy of the murder of the jews. and in this sense, of course, now we are reaping the benefits. eh, it started with the fact that it started in ukraine. i'm just one important example in germany that i know well and the eighties and nineties was unthinkable with politics. well here is a mainstream politician who wants to have a seat in the bundestag. or even in some serious, and the parliament of the state level of the regional level, to declare that i am of german nationality. while, for example, in ukraine there to some extent, probably, in belarus before coming to power alexander lukashenko's loser and in poland and so on to say that i'm there polish ukrainian inventory of nationalism. all this is normal. it was believed that here a bad person loves his country. although it is the proclamation of himself as an open nationalist. farther and farther this is nazism , this is half a step nazism today. is it possible to consider ukraine as the european center of the renaissance of neo-nazism, and of course, i will also turn to our guest from the russian federation yes, please regarding such
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a statement. i think it can be said boldly, because today we see an example of how a military conflict , it flares up precisely due to the fact that the countries of eastern europe take an active part and western, of course, europe take an active part in pumping weapons into this region, and accordingly, volunteers and all those. who wants to show their participation, including the genocide of the civilian population and , unfortunately, as we see through various information channels, the media . e it became such an extreme for hmm representatives, let's say military departments and so on, that is, in particular with the support of the state, and the elites of the baltic states sent groups of soldiers. this is the national army to receive territory from another state. why practice your combat skills ? yes, to gain some experience, but not to mention the fact that there is also, of course, the moment of pursuing personal e, goals
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and pragmatic lines, yes, for the shame of one’s own kind of conviction, and above all , does not understand that in further results of such struggle can, let's say, bring me some dividends. uh dividends, including, for example, the acquisition of land impact on this infrastructure. well, and accordingly to put pressure on the border of russia to belarus , which for us, in principle, is a threat from all points of view, not only from military and political, but also cultural and humanitarian. i can't help but recall the lines of the legendary lines. let's remember all the names of grief, remember our own, it's not the dead who need it. it must be alive , these lines from the requie and ma robert rozhdestvensky touched me even in childhood, but it has acquired particular urgency in recent years, when we see a creeping revival of terrible tribal dialogues and unity by blood. unity is not a nation, anything can be applied by a representative of others, hence
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the thoughtless copying of the slogan daughter of landberrales, which, by the way, we often hear from the lips of ukrainian nationalists. but today we cannot but remember, and the khotyn tragedy, in more detail in our story. the great patriotic war became a real tragedy for belarus, one of the symbols of the suffering of innocent civilians and victims the inhuman reprisals of the nazis and their accomplices began on march 22, 1943. the inhabitants of the village gathered 149 people in one of the sarajevos and then set fire to those who tried to run out, the punishers ruthlessly shot it, like thousands of the same monstrous crimes. committed during the years of the great patriotic war and in the heart of the belarusian people, the winner of the strong and
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generous who knows how to forgive, during the great patriotic war, about 11,000 villages were destroyed, terrible, chilling testimonies of the survivors formed the basis accusations against those who committed these horrendous crimes. and world capital paid for the economic information war. but we have not forgotten the heir. let me also remind the punishers how in the distant forty-first , the belarusian land turned into one big death camp. how they burned people, crushed them with tanks, drowned them, shot them with direct fire
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from heavy guns, how they buried children alive to save bullets and sprayed toxic substances over our cities and villages since 2018, collections of documents have been published in belarus. no statute of limitations. in them tells about the crimes of the nazis and their accomplices on the occupied territory of belarus during the great patriotic war . the database of belarusian villages burned during the great patriotic war has no analogues. it contains documented, confirmed information about the villages completely and partially destroyed by the nazis with and without a population, and since 2021, the prosecutor general's office is investigating a criminal case on the fact of the genocide of the belarusian peoples during the great patriotic war and after the war, what would have been established. the place of residence of the living ss men of the living executioners and that they should either stand before the courts
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of those states where they are now hiding, or be handed over to us for the administration of justice. this is serious work. today, we are working on the formation of documents and the formation of legal conditions so that our national courts condemn, including in absentia , including already deceased nazi criminals, in order to confirm their atrocity specific on the territory of the bssr over the past 2 years , it was possible to establish specific persons from among german invaders and their accomplices, who had previously been able to avoid responsibility for their crimes. among them are nazis from ukraine on the territory of belarus, while the baltic countries and poland categorically refuse to contribute to the investigation of the genocide, according to local authorities. the fulfillment of such a request would allegedly damage the sovereignty and security of their states. instead, it glorifies the legionnaires of the ussr who fought
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on the side of germany and helped the nazis kill civilians and, using the example of neighboring states where monuments are being destroyed and rewritten, history can be seen how modern neo-nazism has raised its head. we see how the instincts of the ancestors of the ukrainian latvian, lithuanian and polish punishers wake up, throwing old men and women into the fire of our children. therefore, we are obliged. and we will do everything to preserve in history the feat of a generation of soviet people who have passed their lesson of courage and heroism with honor, in total, the prosecutor general's office has sent a request for legal assistance. in more than 30 states, active assistance to our country provided by russia as noted in the prosecutor general's office, cooperation with the russian side in this area is at a high level last year, moscow and minsk created
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a joint investigative task force to investigate criminal cases of genocide in less than 2 years, the investigation established previously unknown facts. about 1,300 rural settlements that suffered during the occupation at the hands of punishers. including at least 30 villages, the fate of which is similar. they were completely destroyed along with the population and did not revive in fascism has no human face. but there are seeds of precisely the killers of traitors, and we know them, there are heirs, ideological successors, in whom the gene of hatred for us of the entire slavic civilization, our people, has awakened again. they replaced aryan standards with liberal democratic values. filtering peoples to meet the new
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standard has been going on for a long time through color revolutions riots proxy wars sanctions blackmail in the year of peace and creation, we belarusians speak clearly and loudly. there are no excuses. politics of genocide. nothing is more important than life human. yes, one cannot but agree with this , and right now a member of the european parliament is connecting to our broadcast. miroslav rodachevsky miroslav i am glad to welcome you to our program. thank you hello everyone , your father devoted all his youth to the fight against fascism in the ranks of the czechoslovak separate brigade. ludwig svoboda in 1943, he participated in the liberation of kiev tell me, please, your father could imagine that fascism would revive again in the land
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that he liberated from this with his blood evil, my father could not imagine it. like his fellow russian ukrainians and others, we need to say that then the us was allies now. the reason for the misfortune in ukraine also has its extreme rights, which do not like hungarians, gypsies and other national minorities. why are young people today addicted to radical nationalist ideas, and how to deal with it, in your opinion. how do you raise your children and your grandchildren? but i think that in slovakia it's not so bad to say that slovakia is counted in
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the population is a strange slovak people during fascism during nazism and they are people, but there are small groups. some extremists, but this is not much. i think that weaklings, as a nation, they love everyone, they love russian, and during the war it seemed that they also love jews, we are raising our children in slovakia, ours, who doesn’t have to. and so on. this is my opinion, and i say that
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this is the opinion of the majority of citizens of slovakia yaroslava, the last question, in your opinion. why today in the european parliament, where there are many those whose parents survived the holocaust through their families suffered from hetlerism. today they turn a blind eye to the fact that neo-nazism has become part of the state ideology in ukraine do they really not understand that even the brightest ideals cannot be fought in alliance with the ideological followers of hitler, because young people in western europe do not know, and that there is a big ideology propaganda pass, for example, they do not objectively tell russians about the causes of the war in ukraine, they say that there is no neo-nazism in ukraine young people of the western they don’t understand europe and don’t
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. so it's true, true, this is the future of the future. i wish you good luck. in this work in the european parliament. in order to convey the truth to the truth, two of your colleagues. and, of course, i want to thank you for your participation. i take this opportunity to invite you to visit the republic of belarus, where the memory of the joint is sacredly honored. he heard that when i said it and what i say, but i generally blame him on me. thank you very much, igor, we recalled the khatyn tragedy and the ukrainian 118th police battalion 80 years ago, which destroyed khotyn, was formed by the nazis in october 1942 in kiev tell me, do belarusians in their majority know that in fact the perpetrators
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of the terrible khotyn tragedy were not germans, but ukrainians , of which this 118th auxiliary police battalion stood still. today they already know, but if we talk about the policy that was pursued throughout, as before after the acquisition of independence, even after it, the belarusian educational system did not have an installation that it was not necessary to focus on these moments ; there are people with whom i still have a controversy with accomplices, and they killed the ionic gray hairs who believe. that it is better to leave this soviet german dictation and not focus on these things, it is fundamentally wrong in my textbooks, including on the history of the belarusian state, to shine these things . i prescribe these things very expressively. the fact is that the genocide of belarus was multi-layered, except for the holocaust and mass destruction. jews, germans, nazis used
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the ethnic conflicts in this part of eastern europe very cleverly and used the territorial claims of all our neighbors against us . uh, let's just say that the offices of the sbu still hang maps with very funny borders of ukraine. as for the ukrainian battalions, this is necessary to say, at least there, that in ukraine, not yesterday, not today, and have 3-4 years ago and not 10 years ago, the glorification of these things began. well, a classic example. here is bukovinian. from which two battalions turned out, 115, 118, the first company, 118 battalion , which burned khatyn - this is just part of the
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bukovinian chicken coop historiography published books in which we read an apology, 118 about the ukrainian root, where the fighters of bokovinsky, well the organization of ukrainian nationalists was divided into melnikov bandera according to their leaders and they took the most active part. but, when we fill in the search engine, what pops up is a soviet officer, vasyura, burned khatyn. and uh, yes, he was the commander of the red army, but he voluntarily went over to the german side, he went through the ukrainian nazi school of propagandists. in germany, he professed the same ideology as his subordinates, but in 1990 ukraine was respected. moreover, for his money, chernivtsi was erected a monument to a citizen of the city of chernivtsi, which no one will demolish modern ukraine and he paphos is called the hero of bukovinian smoking for belarusians, if translated into the correct language, it is clear the hero of those who burned and fatyde, but the most important thing is what happened and is happening. this is the glorification of bastards by a scoundrel.
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i am deeply convinced that no national idea can be based on people who destroyed civilians, there are no such ideas, in the name of which an armed man can enter a settlement and destroy the civilian population of this and is called nazism in its purest form, therefore, the question arises, but ukrainians. they were not alone here. i heard you, please, we still have other speakers. i beg your pardon, then it is surprising how the same fluent belarusian position manages, being in europe, to encourage certain sympathies and nurture them among young people. to the ukrainian nationalists the belarusian fugitive position cultivates a cult of the same heroes from the belarusian nationalists, who faithfully served adolf hitler and took an active part in punitive operations against their people. i would like to remind e françoise taran, who personally participated in the liberation of the dachau concentration camp in his
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speech in the post said nationalism is war. this is the whole point can be considered hitler-maniac to avoid the swastika to publicly renounce nazism. but where they sincerely chant. glory to nate, death to the enemies, somewhere in the depths, the horstvosel begins to sound. all forms of nazism have the same nature , oleg, please tell me how ukraine contracted this disease, in your opinion, dear colleague, correctly raised questions and identified good quotes led to the fact that case of informal symbols. eh, this, by the way, is a problem, by the way, advice. the historiography of the attitude to this issue, if you have it there , roughly speaking, you hang a portrait of hitler and you walk around with a swastika. ah, although this, to be honest, is now being tortured in ukraine , you are a fascist with a machine gun. and if you don’t do this, but simply think that you are the name of some idea, and representatives of another nation without exception, including children, can be destroyed, but well, no matter how you are, probably not a very good person there, but definitely not a fascist .
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here now we see, and in unfortunately in on against the backdrop of the tragedy of the conflict on the territory of our country. and we see how easy it is. uh, the broad masses, moreover, well, most of them, how correct are the descendants of those who fought on the right side, yes, that is, they are grandfathers , great-grandfathers, fathers, and fought in the ranks of the red army. the fascist won. today, they often shoulder the arm, unfortunately, torture in russian prisoners of war they are. uh, let's say, at least there , at best, with understanding, well, for sure, without harsh condemnation, they treat her with judicial executions. what is on the territory of kherson kharkiv region, but cooperated with the russian military authorities and after the ukrainian troops arrived there, there were victims in the world of the press, and when we look at all this, when we see this video, which the scoundrel zheren boasted from us in the corps, how people are shot in june, and they throw it into the pit. how is this different from a house? who cares? really? yes, and jolie is also, in
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fact, nazism, of course, and they are all there in a swastika and so on. this, by the way, is probably logical, as if they were internal, like, they are many people don’t eat there, so they didn’t want to, having soros as sponsors in the united states of america and many others there, no matter how much they wanted to hide their nature, but it still breaks through the question. well, or there are completely idiots, yes, that is, you want a volunteer there, to help dolvich solovyov, that is, you want to help the russian information machine. why are you doing this, but apparently you know, but inside. and this feeling is always all permissiveness. it now gives it out in theory , according to the logic of a dumb. eh, like straight ones. well, at least the obvious manifestations, although in fact it's all the same. this is the readiness to exterminate all russians there and all those who showed sympathy for the russians or all those who questioned the official nature of the conflict, this is nazism. after all, nazism. this is not a specific symbol, but even at the level of symbols, it all breaks through and now photographs are already appearing. yes, when a russian warrior, then a veteran of the red army who knocked out a german tank there on the kursk bulge, today there is also
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a ukrainian tank under the battle, on which exactly the same crosses. and what do i like ukrainians, for example, can argue a thousand times over with the russians about what is happening, but there is nothing to answer this photo, for example, because, and one side of the conflict deliberately took on not just, but everything, as it were, put on clothes and took the flag of the fight against russia, namely the flag of that force that is considered to be absolute evil, so that there is no bad thing in modern russia, it is impossible to justify, and dressing up in nazi clothes and direct analogies with the fact that we continued the work of the third reich. they never looked. they are in modern ukraine, this ideology manifested itself equally manifested itself at the moment. i think you remember very well what kind of shouts what words were heard by the veterans of the great patriotic war, who , having come to lay flowers at the eternal fire with the st. george ribbon, faced seeing
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crowds of nazis, and no one suffered. and what do you think natalia is responsible for? is there a real chance to cure the same ukraine of this disease, if even today europe zelensky, speaking in the european parliament , the word of the nation, this is indeed a very important question, namely the question of responsibility, the question of the right and how this is reflected, but in general on the development of political institutions. and we see, probably, an example in this case , during 2022, how the russian-speaking population is subjected to various harassment, er, the russian-speaking population, russians, yes, belarusians, who lived abroad at that time, and such discrimination was recorded in various documents. ministry of foreign affairs and russia in belarus, and so my colleagues and i discussed and were, of course amazed. uh, how immediately this construction, which is called
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democracy, floated, yes, and respect for human rights, when it came to protecting the rights of the russian-speaking population in everyday life in work in the cultural sphere in politics. there's not even anything to talk about, yes, and the question. that 's it about the fact that if there really is a chance, uh, somehow our fund gave up. uh, a publication called last chance for justice. and now i remembered this, why did we understand the question of whether it was possible to punish, and the living former ss men, uh, because latvian legions. er, now living in this we asked ourselves this question a few years ago, and in my opinion. now such a beautiful analogy from the point of view. yes, posing the problem, but unfortunately the conclusions are also disappointing, just as we voiced it a couple of years ago, why, if we look at the social networks of politicians of the same baltic states personally out of interest out of curiosity. i went to their pages. at first, i don't even understand. what state is this, that is, it is lithuania latvia or still ukraine because everything is in
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yellow and blue colors with uh stripes with portraits of bandera zelensky e. and of course, to be honest, there is such a thing. well, a strange analogy arises, even some kind of fear arises, because there is a feeling that there is no one to talk to, because in order to resolve any conflict , it is necessary that there is an opponent on the other side who is ready to at least listen to us yes, ready for what -something steps to overcome contradictions, but today they add up the feeling that there is not, and i would like to return. here, here's to a thought, which initially laid down that we see how the system of international relations in terms of law is being destroyed. we see how throughout even from that moment. they began to prosecute nazi war criminals from the end of the forty-eighth year in the sixties , the trials were eighties every time someone managed to elude this responsibility, so today it seems to me that our task is first of all to be honest with ourselves. uh, remember this, talk about it, first of all, we as a historian with lawyers to discuss these issues of historical and legal aspects. yes, in order to understand at least
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what we should do, but in no case leave these crimes without trial. our memory right now on the air program sas is authorized to declare. i can't help but recall the movie testament of an outstanding film director. mikhail roma's film is a warning at a time when fascism seemed to have disappeared into oblivion and rum considered it his duty to make a picture about the nature of the emergence of nazism and about the price that had to be paid for this invention of ideologists after hitler came to power, these respiratory six. i look at this stream of fire and think what was the true deep meaning of these fiery performances. well, yes, they demonstrated a powerful order, frightened
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aroused simple spirits, and turned him into a savage in a solemn atmosphere. so turn to the savages felt empathetic. and ready for anything, the savage was very much needed by the third. he was needed, first of all , in order to destroy everything that opposed nazism, everything that stood in his way. the first blow was inflicted on the communists of the prison, the leaders of the trade unions, the workers activists, editors of magazines, newspaper, radio, and in general, all who dared to think otherwise than they think. and here i am looking at this fiery swastika. i cannot reconcile myself with the idea that in germany, in a country of great culture , semi-literate, arbitrarily stupid
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people came to power, who did everything to turn a person into an enthusiastic savage. and now 80 years pass and attempts are made to turn a person into an enthusiastic savage. crown success igor how does this happen? and how many more wars does humanity need to survive in order to do not be like all this horror. well, first of all, let's remember for me what shocked me the most. in this situation, it's for all the seemingly dissimilarity, throwing books into furnaces into the fire is one and the same thing, that is, culture. cancellation means that one can deny not just, well, let's say, the political system of the russian federation of president putin is really foreign policy there. and you can deny the cultural
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matrix and the people as a cultural phenomenon, deny chekhov dostoevsky tolstoy monuments. pushkin, that is, people, that is, people who are cultural signs. well, how can bulgakov be a thousand times an influence, but he wrote his texts about petliura incorrectly. well, he wrote incorrectly from their point of view, from how he saw kiev during the civil war. he had to be right for him, this is the concept of one-prastinnost, more uniform is that this is orwell only in a new reading. this is the ministry of truth in the form of an institution in the national memory, which, in the ukrainian case, does not preserve national identity and strengthens the real historical truth, but they create a new construct of historical politics and a new
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concept, falsified with whole pages cut out, where the bastards become heroes. and where are the heroes, uh, scourged, defamed , and what happens happens. oh, i don't know how long it takes for all this. well, here we are. unfortunately, we are in a postmodern situation, when everything is profaned, when the truth is denied objectively, when it is declared that any airplane judgment has the right to be discussed. not because it is someone spoken. these overtone windows are treated only by one systematic work on society with a normal high-quality education system and state control. for all these things , i will repeat the words once again, moreover, they were led by one of the greatest french historians, who was just involved. eh, the conceptualism of memorializing the memory that the state
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of the current situation is the only force that stands above all political systems. these are political groups. this is the supreme orbiter, who must set the paradigms of the historical politics of those concepts that we reflect in our textbooks. for one simple reason there can be no pluralistic opinion on all the things we say is historical fact. sorry gentlemen of postmodernism. this was not a metaphor played over a cup of coffee, as michel foucault wrote , it is always a fragment of reality deed, of course uh, here we have a unique situation when absolutely those political regimes, let's say the elites, which introduce e into
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their own countries, just the denial of history itself instill in the young generations a sense of shame, and for the history of this great britain, france, the united states calls them total colonial russian, and so on , but actually imposed. that's completely, uh, well, in fact, too, only the essence of the totalitarian. the glorification of lgbt there racial minorities and so on. they are at the same time uh, situationally expensive geopolitical struggle with russia and with belarus, by the way, first of all, as a state, which upholds traditional family values. they go for a situational union with frank anti-modernist e, fascist projects , that is, it is absolutely obvious. that is why , for example, zelensky at the head of ukraine will never appear to this, as if tinned, or is there some kind of beletsky leader on the corps? yes, because everyone understands that as soon as the conflict is over, when it is recognized in the west, but necessary. and all
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these radical nationalist movements. they will try to write it off for circulation, because , of course, they interfere with them. these are the same people today, uh, burning russian books there, beating people for the russian language, because the thundering pushkin but they also attack such devices. they're being, like, some of them really convinced. hooray for nationalist patriots. they are against the sale, ukrai earth for the sake of quarreling transcendents, they are compared with them, and from and pump them up and arm them. e, being convinced that for the time being it is still at the head of the political system, but it is worth, uh, zero. well what zelensky nationalist? well, we understand perfectly well that if bandera and his patrons had won then in the forties, zelensky would simply not physically exist, as a representative of the jewish people, simply yes, because the jews. we simply didn’t, and in this regard, of course, it’s convenient for him, but such an actor, who pulled this green shirt on himself today. yes , there it looks like the leader of some kind of military resistance. and tomorrow he will fully remember that
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he is a representative of bohemia. he is quite loyal to lgbt and we, by the way, if let's take a closer look at our time in ukraine. there, in parallel with the war , the istanbul convention was ratified there, and separate ones are being created in this. some divisions have already spoken on the air. i mean, yes, yes, and a lot of other things, right? you're number and you know, here's a game of controlled chaos, can a conditional quarrel with a collective cope with the virus that they are releasing today in eastern europe, can they, for example, really control it or really, starting from ukraine and also poland and others will be reborn fascist states where again will start also such as the speed of our viewers on the map that we have prepared with colleagues, a map of the frequency of acts of violence by far-right movements in europe, and here is continuing your thought. will they be able to hold this snake?
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yes, so that he does not capture europe again, and that's how acute the problem is, the extreme legal experiment today in europe , or, for example, let's take the same more natalya, well, in my opinion, to the question of what we see these menacing and beautiful in fact business visa. a number reflecting e trends, yes , which are in these countries. i think that, first of all, we must understand that some real actions will become behind the expression of the thought of convictions. and again i would like to return precisely to the analysis of 2022, when we massively saw the demolition of monuments to soviet soldiers, and this, too, cannot be ignored, as a way of demonstrating one's attitude. uh, just the same, they are talking about what is happening in poland poland in my opinion. today he behaves most aggressively towards everyone neighbors. uh, completely with some kind of illusionistic views on history on politics, but trying to compensate for some of their historical complexes due to
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such harsh agitation of the expressions of political leaders, which, well, in a good way, they should scare and alert us. uh, to some extent i want to joke somewhere, uh, to joke, but really. i think that this needs to be carefully analyzed, because all such informational messages only speak, and the prospects for the fact that these threats, as we, in principle, can become reality and the right movement. if we talk about them, then they will clearly gain momentum in strength again. i repeat impunity for previous actions. here are their, let's say, ideals, leaders of their opinions, and so on , so, of course, i was even somewhat horrified by such graphics. here but i will remain with my opinion that today it is necessary to respond primarily to information fields. and as a principle, uh, which is really dangerous for society, because. well, liberals like to write down all the fascists in a row. this is trump with us and marina stucco. everyone went. yes, they are white fluffy. i say, well that's how it's very simple actually it's got very simple conservative criteria. this is a person who, on the one
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hand, has nothing against market relations and political competition. he is for a lot of boyishness, but at the same time what fundamentally distinguishes him from her current liberals. the most important criteria of the current conservative, which the liberals distinguish from him. this is what he believes that in addition to individual right freedom, there is also rights and freedoms, which are impossible without the existence of the state. he is for the traditional well, he changes the value system for human normality, which, if we talk about the european version, is based on the christian matrix, that is, a conservative on the fact of the birth of a child. when he is born he understands who he is, because he sees the objective signs that we are allowed to say something boys or girls. i apologize for such things. this is what is fundamentally different and the conservative does not sin, uh, moral
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releaserism. that is, he has moral relativism. no, he understands that there is an objective truth. there are things that are immutable in the cultural matrix, in contrast to the neoliberal, who declares that everything is relative, that there is absolutely nothing, but settled and that neoliberals. this is always the absolutization of the human choice of individual freedom, which, as a result of this wallowing, turns into lack of freedom for the majority final word natalya please, i would like to first of all say that we should speak here in the united front, all people who support both traditional values, and those who are engaged in current historical research and, of course , from other branches of specialists, so that we can understand what unites us and how to counter these threats, whom we spoke today oleg well, you correctly
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raised the question. what is the difference? the difference in the call to action, if in the name of a-a you call your tribes to the nation of the people for destruction or there for the radical oppression of others, this is nazism, if you you stand for how right you started quotes for protecting what is dear to you, yes, for the normal way of life that existed for 1,000 years. there family tradition relationships and so on. you, of course, in this sense healthy conservatives patriot that is, they want to infringe on the other , you want to protect what is dear to your society. thanks a lot. well , i’ll end our interesting discussion on such a difficult, extremely important topic with a touch of optimism, so i’ll bring up that holocaust survivor writer leon fechtwanger, fascism in its initial stages doomed to success, because it arouses bestial feelings in a person, and a person is an animal. well, in the end, fascism is doomed to rights, because man is an animal
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reasonable with faith in the human mind i say goodbye to you sas is authorized to declare. fascism has not become a real problem in modern europe. belarusian memorial complexes have a deer that you can’t forget nicoli khatyn, good luck for a lunge was an improject of yaki peralza. inji. this is in the image of verme-symbolic and i swear on my verme-dobro that yong should not be naturalistic svetka and yes this unknown under the shyness of the erection of folk priests.
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