[000:00:00;00] it’s becoming an insoluble problem for us, there are no people who want to fill vacancies, people are aging and quitting. and according to the results of the past year , the situation has become even more complicated in lithuania . crime has increased sharply by 10% . at the same time, salary inflation is eating up the wages of workers, now it is not enough even to support a single person. not like families. the jubilee is celebrated today by the master of the russian pop art to the people's artist of russia on this song ilya reznik 85 years many famous russian performers have in their repertoire compositions on his element flag reznik the song of the apple tree in blossom performed by sofia rotaru on his 85th birthday president of belarus alexander lukashenko congratulated ilya reznik noted that the works created by the poet, filled with love and creative energy, enjoy well-deserved recognition to the belarusian public and expressed confidence that in the future the activities of the interesting person will contribute to the strengthening

of friendship and the development of cultural cooperation. between fraternal peoples, the agency or news continues to follow developments in the country of the world. details. my colleagues already at 3:00 in the afternoon. i say goodbye to you until we meet at the first button. hello. thank you for welcoming the guests of this issue with us, and today we are also waiting for the studio of the famous russian writer, tv presenter leonid mlechin, but let's start with the loud vladimir putin , your phrases of deploying nuclear weapons in belarus blew up the information front.

let's start with this question and start, probably, and let me tell you for those who still do not understand. why do we need tactical nuclear weapons in the current situation around belarus, i will say so even a union state. it is such that, in general, the use of soft only soft war of force, that is, so far only the deployment of russian tactical nuclear weapons. well, still in some. well, you said some yourself. brought hysteria, and some heads and cooled down in this regard. for us it is of great importance today. here is one division near kaliningrad region, the second division near grodno is being formed by poland poland is increasing its armed forces almost twice and again asking the united states to place tactical nuclear

weapons in it our territory and apply. maybe, maybe, uh, there are not enough belarusian armed nuclear weapons, that ’s aviation above and uh, let’s say some types of artillery, let’s say they are sharpened for this today. and it's already exists for over 40 years. why we cannot have nuclear weapons on our territory , although it will still be under the jurisdiction of the russian armed forces, this must also be understood, because when they started saying that belarus had become a nuclear power. no not like this. it's not so absolute. we can use these nuclear weapons. let's say. so only with the redaction of the russian side, on the other hand. the russian federation has repeatedly emphasized that if some enemy troops enter the territory of belarus, then if suddenly

will need to be protected by all means the russian federation has never hidden what all these means, and no, by default mean. what if, of course, god forbid such a scale implies a nuclear shield. it also becomes an application. well, let's just say that the nuclear umbrella over belarus just got closer and lower. alexei and why is there such a reaction after all? and so nervously excited, after all, vladimir putin alexander lukashenko has said more than once in recent months that guys, if you continue to violate the red lines in the same way, then we we will systematically implement our security step by step in the form in which we understand it. come on, we need to support san ivanovich in the part that over the past 30 years, count it, but it did nothing else, as it concentrated its forces and means on our borders on the borders of the union state. and this applies not

only to belarus. this also applies to the pskov region of the leningrad region. we must understand very well that, and this is not just done, uh, by nato - it is, certain of their strategic plans orientation, and which is unconditional. e hmm connected with the fact that at some point in our weakening to seize the kaliningrad region and, uh, our western ones. e area. we have talked about this more than once, of course. uh, hmm, those forces and means that are concentrated now and their strengthening is going on. a undoubtedly uh they give an opportunity to the nato command to washington london at some stage to decide on this operation for the presence, and tactical nuclear weapons completely destroy their plans. why will they only take one step into our territory

the application of tactical nuclear weapons completely destroys this entire group within literally a matter of minutes. and then the meaning after all these gestures. further there will be only peace negotiations. moreover, with the position of what position. and the fact that they are aggressors, of course, should not only withdraw their troops, but also create the security zone that putin spoke about, that is, from here such nervousness that hinders the implementation of their plans and, you know, nato and the united states and , well, political elite usa e, uk you know, they come to investors with their business plan, and this business plan tries to implement them, and of course they finance their ideas. and when these ideas cannot be realized, that is, it is natural that investors will ask these political persons. and where is the result, where is the result that you

captured? or weakened. uh , there will be no result for russia, yes, and of course, and why are they nervous, because in the near future all this politics that is now in power. she will have to answer to, and those who financed them. well in i mean, very specific specific dates in this interview were called by vladimir putin and i, probably, the final answer for those abroad, who, as before, probably thought that lukashenka putin was bluffing when they say that when it comes to national security, the people themselves , no one will joke and will respond by all possible means andrey what do you think this is the reaction this is the solution. you see something, what i see, firstly, their tactics of working against us are changing, that is, after all, they're probably planning none. this is a direct military attack. but such a hybrid operation. like, for example, the capture of the border region. look who they are preparing. these terrorists are extremists, local people. in general, those who know the specifics there know the language and what we saw, for example, in the bryansk region, is preparation.

these are the berg who can enter the area to capture it, and then we allegedly will not be able to use this territory. here is such a weapon. that is, as far as poland is concerned, yes , this is constant containment so that we are there kept our troops there and thus diverted forces to the polish direction. and now this problem is solved. that is, if we have such a tactical weapon, then we can throw more forces and means on some other part. for example, if there are problems on the southern border. and if we talk about such an attack, it can only be combined, that is, on the one hand , they do this, and on the other hand, they do it. that's it, they're not stupid either. they consider nasheed unconditionally. what about application? well, as they say on this, like, we we don’t really worry, because if there are certain signs of the use of such weapons, it is constantly on alert, it should. let's just say, from the storage, let's say prepared, then it is connected to the carrier, then only after that it is used. that is, they say, here are the signs we do not see, so do what you want, in fact, the reaction is quite calm. at least what we will do according to the americans means, they believe that, apparently, we will not use it after all

, or, if we use it, they will be able to us somehow either get ahead of it, or foresee it there, but so far, apparently, they have such a situation, how critical it is. most likely, when we were still changing the constitution, they already allowed the same. here, probably, something will stand in belarus. well, specifically, this has already been decided by the president. here we accepted this option, but i will repeat on the storage. this is also very important, because by doing so they show russia. so, she fully trusts the situation in the country is controlled. this is not the twentieth year, when it is not clear what would have happened, that is, we even we can place such types of weapons here. this is a good signal from the west, including , look here, here is the complete control of yuri konstantin, this once again shows 4 the republic of belarus and the russian federation have reached such a truly strategic partner. we are completely trusted once we are. and nuclear weapons, yes, under the control of the russian federation only with the order of the commander-in-chief of the russian federation, but nevertheless, it’s like a union state that has been moving towards the implementation of such strategically important programs for a long time, uh, which would showed that we are very close. well, this is such a very real step, and many experts

are talking about this, that they have really strengthened our cooperation and shows that we are really strategic partners. now, more so. and yet it's like a step forward. still, these are moved figures that demonstrate that we are, despite all that we keep, and an attempt to find, e ways of dialogue, peaceful dialogue and regulation of all situations, but we are ready for the development of events. that is, i said the president wanted attack us. let him try. at the same time, if we recall the words of the president as early as the second of july in the twenty-second year. on the eve of independence day at a solemn meeting. he said that this topic appeared immediately after the poles last time. through the americans they asked them to bring them nuclear weapons to poland, this was discussed in detail, and then alexander lukashenko spoke to the president. putin said. and why do we pretend that nothing is happening? this is a very

logical question. this time. well, actually in the words of the russian federation, that is , the last step was that they are going to supply ukraine with weapons with a joint wound. so that was the last step. this time and the second moment, uh, the republic, as if after the collapse of the soviet union, the russian federation, there was all the nuclear violation with and including here the republic of belarus, which the united states did not do anything to nato, that is, we are returning to the positions that we had in general, uh, a statement for the british secretary of defense which is really agitated, which became a trigger for the parties to articulate their own nuclear plans more intelligibly. this is the decision to supply projectiles with combined uranium to ukraine, and this is what you see behind this in the first place. probably alexander ivanovich knows about the features. we have already figured out the features of the shells. eh, everyone has already googled and read, but what should

be seen in such a geopolitical sense, and against the background of the announcement of the supply of these, probably, this is what interests attempts to scale tension absolutely absolutely not explains or can deliver, but they can deliver. so what? it does not change anything. well , how, but i say that the infection is something else , all contact in ukraine will not change anything. absolutely nothing will change the question, only it will be that here, it seems to me, even the ecological one should be taken here, and the component, after all, is the best black earth ukraine, yes, but the fact is that e is normal. projectile yes, when using it, such things do not happen, as when using an early core in the fact that there the plasma gives rise to the so-called uranium dust and this territory becomes infected and,

moreover, is born for a thousand years. simply in this case, we can say that there will be just literally large areas of infection, that is, such people's lands. ukraine were. yes, at the ukrainian chernobyl they do not have such radioactivity, but in any case, they are no longer suitable for use in agriculture, the defeat of human power is coming. eh, people are still sighing from the uranium dust. basically, destruction yes, that is, he is on his own. well, at the moment of use, he understands that these shells are mainly used, they penetrate the thickness of e, 40 cm. yes, armor or reinforced concrete structures, that is, in reality they are and where they can be used either against e heavy taxation, but this is not currently used on the territory of ukraine or opposite, reinforced concrete structures.

yes, but the question uh, the other is that uh and how many of these uh, the uk itself has these shells, there are not so many of them, uh, and uh these technologies, if i i say correctly, if anything, alexander ivanovich rules. it was immediately in the sixties of the 60-70s that they began to be used , that is, in fact, we can say that the uk is once again, like all nato countries, trying to get rid of its old weapons and weapons, plus disposal. well, uranus was actually worked out, which in our equipment is being disposed of in ukraine, and such older weapons are very expensive processes in order to dispose of these ammunition. and so, and gave them to them, they used them infected

territory, but it was correctly said that the infection of the territory is what it says about the fact that great britain and the collective west, in principle, already understand that they, but they will have to leave ukraine and it’s called and i won’t give it to you. yes? why because they understand that these territories, er, with fertile soil , if they move away, that is, naturally, all grain deals will stop, or before and will continue to operate. eh, aside. uh, of course , russia or there towards turkey yes, and in no case are western corporations that currently owns. e most fertile land. ukraine already has its own net profit. this won't work. this is actually, but an attempt, but to write off these lands and tell our own e capitalists investors that you see, we just don’t give them away these lands, it may be that, among other things, these statements about the supply with b

combined uranium - this is a sign that ukraine is preparing some kind of decisive battle. well, i would say about uranus that when they hit the zaporozhye station at the cooling stops, that is, it was much more dangerous, that is, in terms of pollution of the environment. this is what could have had an effect. well, i don’t know, yes, a quarter of europe is there, or up to half in a bad scenario. and of course, the fact that they use these early in the cores is actually not enough, which changes, and plus, yes , it is not clear the volumes, as for the decisive battle. well, probably, we will consider even further the statement that the americans made the day before, that is, they are engaged in it. i would say such misinformation, because if you something is planned, it is necessary to keep it all a secret, or deceive the enemy. here, well , they, of course, play all the time, that is , a statement, and from the adviser to the commander-in-chief of the pledged american dpr isa who said. i believe that this spring ukraine will have a very powerful counteroffensive, which is shocking. i specifically looked at the full text of the statement. so, there, for example, the figures require 25,000 from russia supposedly. this means a series

of killed and 75,000 per month. it believes in such a statement. that is why we should believe that there will be a decisive battle. and here they are, ready for it. and if you look, this adviser is working, he does not advise , his task is to travel there to collect information, what are you doing, these are controllers who sit there and just watch if weapons are stolen, how it is used, what fails? what works, that is, it is understood by the ukrainians themselves, in principle, know what to do. but these are the comrades who are there in the media processing. he is also this coach coach, yes, that is, a specialist in leadership very young army. in fact. they say that the composition of the commune there is 40, and he is even 35 years old. that is, all of them who served with karma were thrown out of the army, because they may not be loyal, or they studied there in russia somewhere. here we take the youth. well, well done does. everyone there also saw someone who cuts out their eyes, someone shoots prisoners, that is, this is, unfortunately, if this is behavior. i think too. it is, as it were , provoked somewhere by american specialists there or by british ones. here they are more of a propagandist, that is, these things informational. yes, they always have it and it works as dirty as possible. therefore, it is necessary

to divide these statements of advisers into two. i think that first of all, we need to listen to the russian statement, what russia will say what they see signs of an offensive there. they say that yes , especially not to say that there are signs of a concentration of troops in large cities, but then again. well, the enemy is calculating all this. that is, you can collect something there, you can then disperse it. it's the same game all the time, who will deceive whom, so you should not believe everything, what they write and say, the decisive battle. many people say that something will definitely be decided this spring . but how are you? you see the situation will be something of a responsibility, nothing will be planned gradually pressure on the armed forces from the russian armed forces and no problematic actions. i don't see it today. russia keeps only 150,000 mobilized in reserve. so they mobilized 300,000. oh well, 150.000 entered into

the battle. and 150,000 are on the second and on the third line. yes, it’s okay to understand, that is , in any case, all those two corps that are preparing the e-e apu of ukraine there, great britain in germany, and so on. they will simply collide , let's say, three uh three lines of defense inside me of defense. and after that they will be systematically destroyed. that is, i am today, so i will not speak for the russian general staff, but it seems to me that russia is nevertheless set up to simply systematically grind grind the living force and military equipment of the enemy. this is the situation ivanovich will not let you lie either. but there is a key offensive rule called one to six. if you want to attack, then your grouping should be six times larger, that is, the apu, but in reality it should be actually how many if three 300

six million and a half? there should be a plus for a person, not only a person, but also the armament of military equipment. and where is it not, therefore, all those who graduated from a military school, universities understand perfectly . some of our viewers, and we see how constantly leopards go there, naughty, yes, living force, because, uh, even if these leopards are sitting in polish e, crews or some kind of planes are controlled there, who are the czechs or some words? uh, the crews are pilots, but this is not for a massive offensive. it doesn't mean anything, it's all burned for there uh a few days. uh , massed art shelling of information that some of them decided to desert and went through end situations, only 20% of all colonies

were trained somewhere in the uk yes, they are trying here in germany, 20% passed the final certification, you know, the worst thing, anything we, of course, we can exaggerate a little here , uh, you have to laugh at these numbers, but it’s important to remember what statement was made that week by the polish, and the military that a in fact, if the situation is then they tried to rewind to say that they didn’t mean it, but the bird flew out and what it says, yes, that in reality they provide that the war proxy mechanism is when the ukrainians themselves are fighting on the battlefield. she no longer rolls weapons helps, but i win only numbers. e of the armed forces, the size of the army and the qualitative composition. so, e. they envisage that in order not to lose to russia, they will have to lead nato troops. yes, and in principle, they

are already nato troops in the form here. crews e strange , yes, but uh, if open uh, the start of hostilities by nato on the territory of ukraine is already open transfer. e personnel units there, then what this says, this is all already the use of not only tactical nuclear weapons of all types of weapons for in order to deter this open attack on the allied state. let's continue the polish topic, once we mentioned it, and the polish ambassador, uh, the witch hunt in poland continues after this ridiculous stupid absolutely espionage case that they, but how they talk with farks or just on their knees, and they dragged belarusians into it. and now it's getting bigger and bigger. it's clear. why do they do it this way, well, here is an interesting statement, stanislav zharin, press secretary of the minister, coordinates of the polish intelligence services, states the investigation activities, the spy network organized

by russia will continue. wife we ​​need to make sure that all participants identified are held accountable. ah. andrey , don't you think that it sounds like they will continue to make nightmares, belarus well, in the same place, as if things continued, that is, literally weeks have passed. they are already declaring that this is what we have, which means that counterintelligence restrained it. these here i am, as it were, belarusian spies. yes, at least not a beast, already, there the military counterintelligence is still delaying two spies. one russian, one belarusian and all fried says yes, there are about 20 people there. these are the spies that we caught there during the beginning of our time that they show that we look cool, we work like that and we see that they are preparing zelensky’s visit there. most likely, we need to create an information background to see what we have caught. we will put weapons there ready to fight. if anything, everything is done falls there. recently he came, which means that the king of the current great britain, that is, also, apparently, was talking about something, that is, they, that is, most likely, that an international fund is being created to receive no new aggressive statements. well, as for spies, of course, we were all very surprised that six

ukrainians were building belarusian oppositionists there. all together they worked for russia, it turned out that even in the polish media how they presented this situation, that there, it turns out , some spies from the east, without indicating nationality, because if you say something ukrainians, the next step, so how we filter, how we accept them, what they do here in general. well society doesn't know it yet do not toss. that is, apparently, the matter is still sewn with threads, because the first step in this case does not bark towards belarus that we are bad here, but to filter our ukrainians, in which you accepted a million people there. here, look for spies there. no need to buy here. our countries. the most important thing is always. that's how many different espionage scandals there have been throughout even the cold war. but, in fact, a spy, in fact , his importance or significance is determined by his access to certain secret documents owls, a secret of national importance, right? a? and, if these are some nominal employees who are simply

definitely, here you will be, here you have a belarusian passport, you will be spies. yes, why? and, because you were somewhere near a kaleika, you passed by railway stations, that's why you will, yes, you will be spies, well, of course, all sane people are not just experts, but simply citizens of poland and europe in general should understand that well, what a spy. it was he who was taken somewhere at nato headquarters that he was sitting and so they pulled him out. here, yes, then it's great, yes showing evidence. look, here was the case , we had all the evidence. here they pah you there that the body was shown. all have been reported. mm, state security officers. they tell you how it all happened. there is not a single intelligible comment here. well, what these people are commenting, well, just laughing , nothing can be seen that, well, why are the poles today allowed to do this, given what we are observing.

what happened was just a genocide with migrants, when here is a little one, this one who ran away a soldier who, well, unfortunately ended up badly, but he told a lot of things, how they simply destroyed and shot these people at the borders, no one else presented now. generally. it is too. we are going to such a situation, as if detaining foreign citizens do not show any evidence and silence. not a single human rights activist, not a single fighter for human rights. even the genus will not open. why are they now called there for martial law; they have an extremely new figure in the area, that is, they do not work there. not the media , not some human rights activists, that is, yes, the second point, well, we looked, they are using an action, in principle, an american one, that is , in mexico there is an iron fence of the same price, which means that it is not guarded there by regular troops. and they are the same. well, some volunteers and poles, in general, took those defenses there. that is, again, this is not a military one, but people who pulled them out of work from somewhere, there for 2 weeks. they are on rotation there, what they do, they

drink there. so, all kinds of hazing are fighting. and, of course, you can also on people hunt from here. phones are taken away. as migrants told money, someone is thrown away and beaten. that is, there is no discipline there, somehow feather grass, so, of course, yes. and there is the same clear picture of the regime itself. yes, here they are turning into real traders lyudmila. so, the minister of the interior, kaminsky said. uh, the belarusian side received a clear signal that while pochem is in prison , the border crossing in the beaver forests will be closed. if pochem will be liberated tomorrow, the day after tomorrow the passage to beavers. that's what it's like not to make money in the evening in the morning chair. well, it's like it will be money and still nothing was. you know there. the fact is that today these are the positions of the polish authorities. well, let's say they are so russophobic , belarusian, as you like, but they are ruled by only one hatred. you know, this is

hate, i don't know. still, of course, in the old days she was always some of our closest neighbors, and we must clearly draw the line between the current political regime in poland and the local population and says that these are two. well, fundamentally different groups, definitely a must. here i’ll tell you, i worked for many years in brest, i, uh, i’ll say that the relations between the border e, population groups and the polish belarusian are very warm and, let’s say , well restrained even with an economic component. yes, that's why they have a polish policy here, let's say the poles, uh, their leadership. of course, we do not share the groups that are supported. well, we also have to watch the requirement, but the population and uh, political summer to date. in poland , these are generally different concepts and they have different

values. son, do you think we should make a fundamental distinction, of course, even look at the situation now with truckers who are making claims to the polish government that they are losing their jobs, that their jobs are being replaced by carriers from belarus from the russian federation, yes, that is, but at the same time lithuania again accuses the republic of belarus that the goods, as closed crossings went through the cast, overflowed the borders. yes, that is here can't figure it out, at least make money. well, in the sense of yours - this is a separate conversation. that is, we must definitely start, because it’s not without reason even when there are some holidays. eh, official state events take place, then the president of the republic of belarus congratulates the people. yes, that is, to the people, because we understand perfectly well that, yes, the people choose their own government. and how it chooses is also a separate conversation, but these are people who are very much in many ways. that part of the population that understands that everything that is happening. as for ordinary people, it's just that the consumers of the people of the citizens of this

state are only from the side that someone wants. uh, how to prolapse your interests or declare your interests, declare your rights. our viewers the fact is that our programs are watched on the internet, including those who live in poland now and they periodically. that's just what they pay attention to. here in your comments. in fact, under each video you can find here an interesting comment. he is a revealing one of many e under videos with an interview with famous russian blogger dmitry puchok was recorded last week. and then we saw this comment and realized that this really needs to be said. let's hear a big hello to everyone from poland, really simple poles. they want to fight with the russians, then they are our warriors. and in general, they treat russians normally, but very many do not know the truth, since in polish tv one horse, russian channels are all turned off. and many more are intimidated. they even want to hear the truth, they are afraid on the phone to talk about this topic, they only complain about everything, alas, there is such a situation that

what we are talking about blocked access and channels of information, that is, there is no variety of information is pumped up only that which is beneficial in order to provoke negative attitudes, how to russian and blows. and all the same, people find sources , find an understanding that it is necessary to consider various aspects of this issue and cool off the idea that we are still people. we are neighbors, as you rightly say, yes, the neighbors do not choose us further to live sometime it will all end sooner or later it will move to another stage into another phase, but to live there and we will remain people, we will have to trade, work, meet, travel, that is, transparency. the boundaries of the movement of labor capital. the entire international economy is built on this free movement. eh, and so to speak normal relations. yes, yes, we monitor a little what they are doing there. well, actually people are people. yes, well , flushing from capital, that is, children there well, senior courses of universities, for example, and there is an older the school is prepared specifically for the war. here it

was not. it's been there for the last three or four years. but the right justice party, apparently , has relied on documentation of what we see from youth movements, which are also very powerful in poland; it’s not belarus , somewhere there are some football fans and that’s it. there are really politicized groups there, which are influential, who hold their own territory there, and these are the nationalists. they are very aggressive, that is, in ukraine we have seen how in 8 years you can to grow this cannon fodder, which is absolutely in general, convinced ideologically ready to fight in separate units , the same thing, apparently, if in poland, therefore, yes , people of the older generation, of course, they have known our country for many years. some kind of connection is traded there, there are other related ones. but this is the youth, they are the most aggressive, the most dangerous, because even in the ukrainian army , we see that the bet has been made just this young generation, it is easier to work with them, easier to manage, probably, as if they said that yes, if the people could make a herd of pigs there, but in a couple of years, with the help of the media , the polish are also washed away, of course, they are engaged in washing. we, if there are plots near belarus. there are paddy wagons driving through the streets there, which means that they report that 30. in prisons , water cannons always show gas, that is, not the situation that is real today, but what

else was there 2 years ago. this picture is always present with him. well, look, and this is reflected in the perception of our people, and their neighbors for what is happening recently institute of sociology of the academy of sciences published these opinion polls, and the priorities of belarusians in foreign policy are in the first place predictability. the union is less and less supporters of a neutral policy. yes , for a long time we thought that this is our kind of business card, there are fewer and fewer supporters, and the belarusians are absolutely confident in the unfriendly countries of the united states of the baltic countries. and poland, that is, those of our neighbors, with whom for a long time it is quite safe for itself. ah, existence. what is lithuania lacking in general? here. if you look , we see what the authoritative american secretary general antonio gouache traveled to brussels to deliver a simple message from the eu leader to stop world hunger. how to ensure the delivery of russian and belarusian fertilizers? in developing countries, and despite the sanctions

, it would seem that lithuanians should be the first to rejoice. after all, such a reason to compensate for the sanctions losses to support their ports, but no, lithuanian politicians, i quote, intend to oppose the exceptions and sanctions for belarusian fertilizers, which are discussed in in the european union, prime minister shmonites stated that the president of lithuania must not accept any derogations at the european council. who bit our neighbors, what kind of rabid dog? you correctly defined very clearly, this uh russian verb, yes, to earn. yes, they had the opportunity to earn money, but for some reason they refused , but because, er, there is some kind of alternative, but they do not earn money, but receive some kind of subsidies, primarily from the united states of america, it is difficult to earn money. yes, it is necessary to negotiate with belarusians. it needs to be contracts. and it is necessary to ensure the reloading of our collic fertilizers there, our goods.

and why yes, it’s easier to close all this, issue an account for the united states of america from the funds and say compensate us for this and they receive the sanctions that have been introduced, and against belarus since the twentieth year. e through the blocking of the port infrastructure. this is definitely in the future. uh, it had to be compensated from not the only or other funds, uh, which are engaged with washington, or with london, in another way it is does not work. well, it burns faster. uh, this deal will be pressed by the removal of the sun. still, it's common sense. well, common sense always prevails sometimes, er, only in such an intellectual game. and when a is banknotes, yes, if it simply should not be, i think that he will make a movement will do some, uh, processes,

but in reality, until we, uh, most importantly, we will not see liberation from baltic countries. and poland from occupation by the united states of america yes, because we need to discuss what we just discussed to admit that our neighbors are in the regime of occupation, by the way, our main question is about returning to ourselves. what conclusions do we have to see everything that happens around, but live with our own mind. it's clear. and while we are succeeding, and on friday there will be a message from the president to the people of the parliament - this is always a key event , attention is always riveted to it, and this year we see that there is still a speed of development of events and the situation. well , she's just in the war in the country, we pay attention to it. you. what are the expectations from this messages, if there are any at all or konstantinovna, of course. uh, this message, really uh will be at a time when the setting is changing, every minute every second no stability. we don't see it today. and this message, as if, like an annual message, will outline some particular

strategic priorities, and like me. i hope it will again affect all aspects of life, like our international relations, including naturally our internal problems, our internal aspirations of our people. well, what do we expect from this. i think, that it will be such a good analysis of the international situation of our place in this world and the prospects for our movement forward in this so unstable, but in the world in which we must live and develop , the last message was remembered for the fact that the president was very frank. yes , a very frankly departed moment. yes, this is the general narrative of which is even classical. well, i don’t know the style of presenting this message here and i asked three key questions to the russians. i propose now to recall this fragment, and then we will return to the current messages, please. my first question to you, the belarusian people, but not the most important one, are you ready to pay belarus for your own

defense for your own for this expensive thing the name of sovereignty and independence. the third question i have for you generated by our society, are you ready? initiative work are the belarusians today ready to really break away, set themselves a task for their families and work at least for themselves, and everything else that we have preserved the state. and as soon as we have this inner potential of our the people of each belarusian involved, we will be twice as rich. i heard the society of my president. well, if

these were three questions, three answers were received in 2 years , that is, in principle, yes, we see that we are quite united, that many things have been overcome, which were back in 2020 . well, there are still problems. of course , as without it well, of course, that is, a kind of ritual. yes, it will be reflected to handle the message. and even when he started operations. it is a necessary part of our political life. and of course, except for such a spectacular component. there are certain tsu that all states receive. that is, people there are sitting at notebooks fixing. this is also important. that is, it’s not just like that. you know , our programs are popular to explain something. it ’s also such a green synchronization of clocks within the task, of course, of course, since we have the president’s vertical of power. he always does it. so somewhere improvisation. maybe, well, there certainly is a template, let's say prepared in advance. here are certain theses that we hear and also remember how it was in russia, for example, what is around. putin's message was created in such an artificially hype that one should expect some such incredible statements right there, and

then people were a little disappointed when they were not there. that is, you need to understand that, well, this is still a procedural moment, and no matter how it will not necessarily be some kind of direct. well , this is also all important and you need to listen carefully to take the time. aleksey knows this for sure, so you need to realize that, m-m, our society is already built on the principle people of power, yes, and in fact the president is the same, and through the message expresses those key issues that concern our society, worries from the point of view of the geopolitical situation. uh, there will be a war in our region, there will not be a war, the second question is the economy, we will not put up a bright future, we will survive in these conditions, they are simple and e key question. and where should we develop further in this difficult period, and we see that he is the president, but he does not make

this speech. uh, some, some formal , just uh, i read it, and my speech was on we will finish with this. we see that temporarily worries our belarusian society. therefore, the president's speech embodies this spirit, this movement of the entire belarusian people. it seems to me that the president will still pay great attention to internal security. if we take, for example, the situation in belarus over the past year, more than 12 terrorist attacks were the subject of internal, belarus and now these issues of internal security. and they simply demand from the population already and their vigilance i'm not calling here, there is somewhere to knock or inform, but the question is that we must be attentive to people and what is happening around us. it will be sure

that attention will be paid to this. this i am sure. well, thank you very much for participating in our program, we thank our experts, but we don’t say goodbye to the audience, in a couple of minutes we’ll treat another conversation with a russian writer, publicist, tv presenter leonid. stay. with us and we continue to be happy to welcome to our studio a person who is known and loved by many readers and viewers on numerous works in literature and on television with us. hello leonid mlechin or mikhailovich. here, the truth was very happy to see you in belarus, you do not deserve others. of course, we are watching your activities, and we saw how at the minsk book fair, where you presented your book about you , people received an autograph session on inclusion in questions. that is, it was clear that it was not so much a book to discuss, they were interested in hearing your opinion on the events that are on the agenda that we

now surrounds. if we talk about your book, then, as far as i understand, it is not only about kazakhstan in the broadest sense, it is also about this dramatic event that the journalists talked about. uh, bloody january. correctly understood. yes? quite right. i was even going to call it like that then he says to me, well, it's somehow too scary, maybe it's actually scary. you know, i was shocked because i was in kazakhstan, but not long before these events, for me, kazakhstan , which i wrote about not for the first time such firm instability in this very dangerous region. everything around is on fire. and kipelov in the cauldron. and here in kazakhstan i always thought everything was fine and calm and suddenly it explodes there and you know. i sitting in moscow , the audience wrote to me. i asked what was going on. i saw the chronicle. i read it and i was completely shocked. i think we need to understand how this can happen. how can this all happen in one second? but, to be honest, when i flew there, i was

sure that there was already a sea of ​​people of my colleagues who were already finishing these books. it turned out that i wrote the first book about what happened in kazakhstan, i talked with dozens. e law enforcement officers who defended order and talked to people. engaged in obvious posts explained by sacrifices, and i saw what happened there, i was shocked. you know, at some point i had the feeling that i was in stalingrad, this was the building of the city akimat of the city government. just burned. i stood there while the equipment was set up, and i stood there for about 20 minutes , completely shocked, it could not occur to him, almaty, what a wonderfully beautiful southern a city and this happened, how could this happen, how this thin film of civilization flies off people, they turn. god knows what i wanted to tell about this, but then i think that in general, but in the republics, to which we were

together recently. we know very little. we consider it. it really is. yes, it's a problem that it seems to us that you know and understand everything, but this is not so, because, of course. each nation has its own rich and interesting history, and the performance must be told about it. i decided that i will tell, and here there is no tremor. the description is detailed, how and what is happening, and then kazakhstan and then in kazakhstan, the most interesting new president , the most interesting, from my point of view, an outstanding politician is very curious. i have known him for a long time. i think it is underestimated and does not understand its significance. i wrote a biography about him. he is the son of a veteran. know for me. it was of great importance his father came from the front on crutches, and his uncle was his brother. his father died at the front. and his father would not believe until the last that his brother died and his son he said that maybe he had a concussion. he's in the hospital somewhere and we need

to find him. only much later they found a grave where he died, and his uncle is so important to me, it is of great importance with informatics , but there is also a solid interesting character and then in general kazakhstan about how people live there, what they think, how they see the world . i think this is very important. you can tell a lot of parallels in general. just remember, yes, u rushed to compare with other color revolutions what happened in kazakhstan began to talk about - 2020, what they say is on the same patterns. the same methodology. when you were working, did you find these paralyzes, or is it a separate one? history, fucking, to be honest, i 'm afraid of parallels now i'll tell you why, in principle, there is even such a section here, because i see the hand of people in everything. here are the figures of people, i am history. now, over the years, i began to see through the biography of people, without without through e, the main figures. well, in our youth, since we all lived in the soviet union, there was a rather limited role of the individual in history, which is in

that the people decide everything, and they gradually came to the conclusion that everything depends on these figures, and the figure is different everywhere people are different heat, therefore it is necessary and why it is necessary to understand each situation very well. you sometimes think that you have a pattern. he will help you in everything. you are not in history in what is happening around us. we must understand each situation. so tonally here is the board. we need to understand exactly. we need to look into it, maybe it's time for this. well, you don’t have to feel sorry for him, this one is ours with you brother refers, because we are sometimes in a hurry we are light-minded a little bit for this we are criticized, in principle, in this being of a journalist. you must be the first to report what is happening a hundred lines per issue. you must be able to write instantly. standing, though the walls. this is one page per error high. now we have the other side is that people want to understand what is really happening. it is clear that in the years of my youth, in order to find out what happened, i had to wait until tomorrow, my grandfather sent me for

newspapers. so, when he began to get the mailbox . i would bring the truth. he was now reading messages on your phone that any date had happened to me, god forbid, there the plane crashed, he took pictures. you know, well, then it arises, the main people want to understand, and why it fell, the design is poor fueling prosperity, the weather is terrible. pilot error is where professional journalists are needed who know how to work, where to go to pilots to testers to the creators of aircraft designs and so on professionals, who will carry out the necessary analytical work and present. and what do you think, did the circumstances allow the time , the facts, the people with whom you communicated to collect this picture to understand the root cause and maybe even so, after reading the book. we can draw such a conclusion. what do those events in kazakhstan teach us what kazakhstan all of us at night. well, i gathered all the information

i could gather. well, everything, you know, only the almighty, we earthly creatures are limited, and i formulated for myself what is happening and stated throughout the book, as i see it very interesting reader. maybe agree with me or disagree, but i'm not talking unfounded. i state. these are the ones that people's opinions happened, what i learned and propose to see the picture, i do not offer my conclusions, because the viewer. as you have seen , here are the main reasons, maybe the prerequisites for what happened for some reason. and what needs to be or has already been done by kazakhstan so that this does not happen again, but, unfortunately, there is an evil will in everything and it manifested itself very noticeably there, and several events coincided at once diverse, who wants to carefully read this book agreed, but not outwardly. well, in any case, what they told me in kazakhstan was speech. there is no event inside, but

kazakhstan was very lucky that the head of the country was a man who showed his will the decision. in general, they didn’t appreciate him, only he is a diplomat, an intellectual, a very gentle person . they completely thought, quite right. it turned out absolutely in him was an incredible determination to me. and there , assistants, close people, say that the situation is when there is generally god knows that happens not a second of doubt not a second of any unrest of anxiety. uh, in peace, in complete control of the situation , a decision was made correctly, including a decision, and you speak absolutely exactly absolutely exactly when you ask for help from the organization of the contract. i remember some crazy comments. all this gives the country to the power of the invaders. it means the end of the country. what a madness belarusian contingents arrived from russia, and other countries sent their content. yes, everything that is needed was taken under control

of a strategic object, airfields, warehouses ammunition power plant, what's the point, as i understand it. first, the whole world saw that the president and the state power were in place and recognized as allies by the communities. it kicked out right away. eh, infusions e. the second troops, the kazakh security services , were able to transfer duty to their colleagues from behind the dkb to restore order - all for a few days. this happened without any shots being fired, and our troops and yours returned home, having completed the task perfectly from my point of view. it's just history going in. after all, we are seeing that the breed of western politicians is now becoming smaller. well, macron schultz is sunanok fonderine, that is, it seems to me that they don’t even hide that they are not leaders, but managers, and states are like a corporation. really. we won't see it there again.

no, i don’t know nicolas, nor the new chirac does not flow. do you already know that time has passed? i thought about this before the current events, and then i came to the simple conclusion that in fact the scale of the tasks facing the head of some western european state is not difficult to raise taxes there by 1.2. center or one do? kiss, three tenths of a percent. retirement age. there, as in france, it will increase the scale of tasks to 65 or to 64. e was not so large-scale, did not require strong politicians, it was about such very simple things. it's just different times now. i think it will. although on the other hand. you know this one. oh, we , when we look in history, we see bright figures, but we forget that they were not always and not everything was filled with bright ones, i already say, there were dim bright ones. unfortunately, they don't happen very often. i'm like so professional biographer. i want for my heroes,

really not much. unfortunately, there are not so many such outstanding figures capable of changing time, it seems that you are watching this side, or maybe we will say that there is, for example, either another breed or another league, putin lukashenka is sitting there, that is, they even well, charisma according to physiognomy in manners is not fussy, yes, that is, there is readiness. as you say, as you recall, gromyko sits down at the negotiating table and discusses, even if these positions do not coincide, how to negotiate. just when we see different formats for different tasks of managers, there are leaders of heads of state, and they are of different calibers. and the tasks we have in common today, the global world faces a common task before us. i think that the politicians whom you spoke of initially faced such large-scale tasks that the europeans had not had for a long time. it just wasn't there, you know how there was no demand. well, it seems to me, i had a way, there was no

need. well, let's look there two or three years ago. there four five years ago, the scale of the problems. well, in european. the continent is very different. well , really, how to say it for the manager, but there was no need to make major political decisions, they appeared. right now. well, look, it will appear. you also know such large-scale figures like chertik, if i remember that i was a daughter, but were there outstanding figures? no , unfortunately, not at all outstanding figures. in fact, you don’t often want to think here, that is, they don’t ask a question for a high-profile headline. namely. maybe we are with the audience with you pondered. if you look back at our history, you can highlight some mistake number one or catastrophe number one, which, like a bifurcation point, parted us in a different direction. we could be somewhere else. you know, i think that the seventeenth year and i, with firm conviction, have already written more than one book about this and made enough historical films.

i think that if they were the events of the seventeenth year, we would now live on the sidelines with a population of at least 300 million people, and in a prosperous country, and the russian empire in at the beginning of the twentieth century, it was one of the five most diverse states, we would go to the top five most developed countries. we would not have lost so many people, we would not have gone through such monstrous trials. we would have lived now for a long time already for a long time already prospering with a prosperous country of events, the seventeenth year there were disasters. well, in fact, if we didn’t enter the first world war, it’s further rewinding, if peter, of course, had happened exactly in 911, if he hadn’t been killed in the kiev theater, he would have remained the head of the state. he would not allow russia entered the first world war, there would not have been the first world war there would have been no events of the seventeenth year, and russia at the beginning of the 20th century

developed rapidly and economically politically spiritually, because, and the silver age is the heyday of incredible art here in belarus, by the way, the incredible development of painting. here is an outstanding master, alive 52 centuries. golden saws, golden brushes, if i may, so to speak, here , right here, and the revolution was prevented, they would be here, this is all they did, they would have remained here, they all dispersed, fled and disappeared, so for me the event of the seventeenth year was a turning point for me, and disastrous for russia in russia, i mean, not in the ethnic sense, the russian empire of the state in which we all lived together, my ancestors from everything, but from belarus summing up, can the conversation not boldly delay any longer, but peering into the future. that's all the same question, at least forecasts. you don't like it, but at least look into

the future like that, you know what colors it draws, i'm really very careful in this sense. but i would like to hope that i can still write a book about how these turbulent times ended and then try to figure out how it all happened? well, i hope i get the opportunity. thank you very much for participating in our program. let me remind you that our guest was a wonderful journalist and writer. and tv presenter leonid mlechenko. thank you for