tv [untitled] BELARUSTV April 4, 2023 8:00pm-8:50pm MSK
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[000:00:00;00] communications of the online shopping network is the task of creating equal working conditions and a transparent control mechanism for both those who apply for a loan and those who issue them. the current law on credit histories has been in force for more than 14 years. planned to come back to relax to improve their health. and at least for a while to forget the grief of hostilities on the eve of the first minsk station, thanks to the project of the union state, the first spring shift arrived. children are completely different this time we also got an orphanage from the city of trinities. there are a lot of small children there, enough children ira children and those deprived of parental care, so we are very glad that new comes to us all the time, and we try to cook. well, with such it was interesting to prepare such ones, so that they would remember their childhood, in general, what it should be like. calm joyful just in april maya for three shifts
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more than a thousand children have a rest in the children's recreation camp dubrava in the soligorsk region. slutsky opened a monument to the first patriarchal exarch a bronze monument to metropolitan philaret in his protection was erected on the territory of the church of st. paisius the athonite, the solemn ceremony took place during the celebration of the day of remembrance of the holy righteous sophia. and then he led the litia of paprikas, reminding metropolitan philaret vakhrameev of more than 10,000 trees and 30,000 shrubs will be planted in minsk this spring. in addition, the capital landscape will be decorated with 15,000 roses. such flower gardens throughout the city will appear for the first time auspicious. the landing period will start in the second half april will continue and the floristic trend for perennial compositions will be supplemented by 120,000 plants and the number of the project will also increase. green yard. together, the initiative has
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already been supported by over 2,500 minsk residents. hello. thank you for being with us and welcome the guests of this edition as well. today, we are waiting in the studio for the famous russian perussian, who blew up the information front. let's start with this question and start, probably, and tell for those who still do not understand. why do we need tactical nuclear weapons from ivanovich, well, you know the current situation around belarus yes, i will say, even a union state. it is such that, in general , the use of soft, so far soft military force, that is, so far only the deployment of russian tactical nuclear weapons, is still in some. well, you yourself said some led to hysteria, and some heads and
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cooled down in this regard. for us it is of great importance today. here is one division near the kaliningrad region. the second division near grodno is formed more poland increases the armed forces almost twice and again, the united states is asking to place tactical nuclear weapons with it, this should not be forgotten either. go, we must forget that this is a tactical nuclear weapon, what will be dark on ours also has a reciprocal value among the six states of europe - there are few nuclear weapons, and aviation above and uh, let's say some types of artillery, they are under it let's say, and sharpened today. and it's been there for over 40 years. why can't we have single weapons on our territory, although it will still be under
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the jurisdiction of the russian armed forces, this must also be understood. just when they started to say that belarus turned into a nuclear neighing. this is wrong. it's not so absolute. we can use these nuclear weapons. let's just say that with the redaction. eh, the russian side on the other side of the russian federation has repeatedly stressed that if some enemy troops enter the territory of belarus, then, if it suddenly needs to be protected by all means , the russian federation has never hidden that all these means. but no. well, let's just say the nuclear umbrella over belarus just got closer and lower . red lines, then we will systematically implement our security step by step in the form in which
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we understand it. for the last 30 years, let's do nothing else, but concentrate our forces and means on our borders on the borders of the union state. and this concerns not only in belarus this also applies to the pskov region of the leningrad region. we must be well aware that, and this is not just being done, by nato - it is, their strategic plans are oriented, and which are certainly connected with the fact that, at some point in our weakening, to capture the leningrad region and capture and e , our western regions, and we have talked about this more than once, of course, er, hmm , those forces and means that are concentrated now and their strengthening is going on, but certainly. uh give the opportunity to command nato, washington, london, at some stage
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decide to have this operation, and tactical nuclear weapons completely destroy their plans. why is it that only one step they take on our territory, the application of tactical nuclear weapons completely destroys this entire group during the next will be only peace negotiations. moreover, with the position of what position. and the fact that they are aggressors, of course, should not only withdraw their troops, but also create the security zone that putin spoke about, that is, from here such nervousness that prevents the implementation of their plans is nothing. uh, you understand, nato and the us and, well, the political elites of the us and the uk. they do. you know, but ideas are financed and when these ideas cannot be realized, that is, naturally, investors will ask these political persons. and where is the result, where is the result that you captured? or weakened. uh
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, there will be no result for russia, yes, and of course, and why are they nervous, because in the near future all this political lithium, which is now in power. she will have to answer before. and those who financed them. well, in a very specific sense, they probably thought that lukashenko putin was bluffing when they said that when it comes to national security, no one will joke with the people themselves and will respond by all possible means andrey what do you think is this a reaction? here is the solution. you see something, what i see, firstly, they change the way they work. that is, after all, they are probably not planning something directly. and here is such a hybrid operation as, for example, the capture of the border region. look who they're cooking for. these terrorists are extremists, local people. in general, those who know the specifics there know the language and what we have identified, for example, in the bryansk region, is preparation. these are the berg who can enter the area to capture it, and then we allegedly will not be able to use this territory. here is such a sprayed direction, and now this problem is being solved. that is, if we have such a tactical weapon, then we
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can throw more resources on some other sector. for example, if there are problems on the southern border, and speaking about such an attack, it can only be combined, that is, on the one hand, these are doing this, and on the other hand, they are doing this. this is what it is, they are also not far away, they consider nasheeds unconditionally. what about application? well, as they say on this, like, we 're not really worried, because if there are certain signs of the use of such a weapon, it is not constantly on alert. it should, let's say, how it should be, let's say it is prepared from the repository, then it changes it with a bearer, then only after this is applied. that is, they say, here are the signs we do not see, so do what you want, in fact, the reaction is quite calm. at least, what we are most likely, that and when we were changing the constitution , they already allowed such that, probably, something will stand in belarus. well, specifically, the presidents have already decided this. here we accepted this option, but i will repeat on the storage. this is also very important, because russia is thus shown. so she completely trusts us, the situation in the country is controlled. it's not the twentieth year it’s not clear what would happen, that is, we can even place such types of weapons here. and this is a good signal from the west. including
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the operation reached such a truly strategic partner. we are completely trusted since we were also entrusted with nuclear weapons. yes, under the control of the russian federation, only with the order of the main command of the russian federation, but nevertheless, it would be a union state that has been moving towards the implementation of such strategic important programs for a long time. uh, which we showed that we are very close. well, this is such a very real step, many experts are talking about this, that they really strengthened our cooperation and shows that we are really strategic partners. now, more so. and yet it is like a step on institutions. still, it's moved. mountains that demonstrate that we are, despite the fact that we are ready for the development of events. that is, as the president said, they wanted to attack us. let him try. if you remember the glory of the president , july 2 is my twenty-second year. on the eve of independence day at the solemn assembly. he said that this topic appeared immediately after the poles addressed lukashenka to the president for the last time. putin
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said. and why do we pretend that nothing is happening? you will agree that this is a very logical question. this time. well, in fact, according to the words of the russian federation, that is , the last step was that they are going to supply ukraine with weapons with a joint wound. so that was the last step. this time and the second moment, uh, the republic, as if after the collapse of the soviet union there, the russian the federation had all nuclear weapons, with and including the republic of belarus, which the united states did not do anything. that is, we are returning from the position that we had in general, this is the statement for the minister of defense of great britain, which really stirred up, which became a trigger for the parties to more clearly articulate their nuclear plans, including. this is the decision to supply projectiles with combined uranium to ukraine , and this is what you see behind this in the first place. probably alexander ivanovich about features
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you have already figured out the features of the shells. uh, everyone has already googled and read, but what should be seen in such a geopolitical sense, and against the background of the statement on the supply of these, probably, that's what these are, but they can deliver. well, that doesn't change anything. well, as i say, it’s that infection or something else in ukraine will not change anything. absolutely nothing will change the question, it will only be that here, it seems to me, even the ecological one should be taken here, forcing, after all, the most the best chernozems of ukraine, yes, but the fact is that e with a conventional projectile. yes, when using it, such things do not happen, as when using an early core. yes , the fact that there the plasma gives rise to the so-called uranium dust what? in this case, we can say that there will be just literally
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large areas of infection, that is, such people's lands. ukraine were. yes, in ukraine they didn’t have such radioactivity, but in any case, they are no longer suitable for use in agriculture , the defeat of human power is on the way. uh, people too yes, uranium sighs from the dust. besides that, in principle, destruction. yes, that is, by itself. well, at the moment of use, that these shells are mainly used, they penetrate the thickness of e, 40 cm. yes, armor or reinforced concrete structures, that is, in reality they are and where they can be used either against e heavy taxation, but this is not currently used on the territory of ukraine or in the way that , uh, how many of these shells actually have in the uk itself. uh not like that
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a lot of uh and uh these technologies, if i speak correctly, that is, in fact, we can say that the united kingdom once again, like all nato countries, is trying to get rid of its old armament weapons, and plus aleksandra ivanovich that recycling . and well, actually used uranium, which is called equipment , is being disposed of in ukraine, and such weapons, outdated, very expensive processes in order to dispose of these ammunition. attacks that e great britain and the collective west, in principle, already understands that they, but they will have to leave ukraine and and is called and you recently yes , why because they understand that those territories are fighting, or before and will act to the side. naturally, russia or there aside. turkey yes, and by no means not
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the western corporations that currently own most of the fertile land. in ukraine, the net profit on this will not receive its jackpot. this is actually, but an attempt, but to write off these lands and tell our own e capitalists investors that you see, we don’t give them up just like that. it may be such that, among other things, these statements about the supply of shells with combined uranium. this is a sign that ukraine is preparing some kind of decisive battle. well i would say prophecy traces. that could have had an effect there, i don’t know, yes, a quarter of europe is there, or up to half in a bad scenario. and of course, they use these early in the cores. it actually occupied what changes and plus more. yes, it is not clear the volumes, as far as they decide. well, we'll probably look further. there's a statement that the americans did on camera, that is, they are engaged. i would say such a deformation, because if this is something planned, it must be kept in secret, or deceived by opponents. here but of course they are in this yes you are talking about this
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statement, and the adviser to the commander-in-chief of the american dan rice who said. i believe that ukraine will have a very powerful counteroffensive this spring, which is shocking. i specifically looked at the full text of this statement, which means russia is losing 100,000. well, if there is any grouping, there are 53400.000, it turns out a grouping, you can destroy it in 4 months if you believe this statement, that is, why should we believe that there will be a decisive battle there. and now they are directly ready with information that you , what is going on, these are controllers who sit there and just look to see if weapons are stolen, how they are used, what fails? what works, that is, it is understood by the ukrainians themselves, in principle, know what to do. but these are the comrades who motivate there. yes, there is a fairly young army. in fact. they say that the composition of the commune there is 40, there is even 30 years. that is, they are all who from the site with the karma of the service were thrown out of the army, because they may not be loyal, or there , somewhere through russia, we are taking young people. well, well done does. everyone there also saw someone who cuts out their eyes, someone shoots prisoners, that is, this is, unfortunately, if this is behavior. i also think that it is, as it were , provoked somewhere by american specialists there or by british ones. here they are
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more propagandists, that is, these things are informational. yes, they always have it she is russia what they see signs of an offensive there. they say that especially not to say that there are signs of a concentration of troops in large cities, but then again. well, the enemy is calculating all this. that is, you can collect something there, you can then disperse it. this is the game all the time, who will deceive whom, so you should not believe everything that everyone writes and says, decisive battle. many people say that something will definitely be decided this spring. well, the american american adviser to the commander-in-chief, which, by the way, is also an indicative moment. but how are you? you see the situation will be something nothing will be planned gradually pressure on the armed forces from the russian armed forces and none. so they mobilized 300,000. yes, well, 150,000 were brought into battle, and 150,000 are on the second and on the third line. you probably understand this , that is, in any case, all those two corps
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that train the ukrainian armed forces there, great britain in germany and so on. they just collide let's say. so on three uh, on three lines of defense inside me of defense, but it seems to me that after all, russia is determined to simply systematically grind grind manpower and military equipment of the enemy. that's the situation was alexander ivanovich, too, will not lie. but there is a key offensive rule called one to six. if you want to attack, then your grouping should be six times larger, that is, the apu, but in reality it should be in fact. how many if three 300 times six million is not, so all those who graduated from military schools are excellent spectators, and we see how leopards constantly go there that the plane. you the tanker has already trained the uk, the tanker
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decides, and the reparder are polish crews, or are there any pilots in the planes? who is czech or some dictionary? uh, the crews are pilots, but this is not for a massive offensive. it doesn't mean anything, it's all burned in there. e a few days, e massed by artillery shelling. yes, yes information that, well, yes, trying to do something 20% went to the final certification. you know, the worst thing ever. of course, we can here, uh, exaggerate a little laugh at these figures, but an important remember what the statement was made that week by the polish, and the military, that a is really, if the situation worsens and then we a will have to step in.
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that is, the ambassador said, the ambassador of poland in france then tried to rewind to say that he didn’t mean it, but the bird flew out and what he was talking about, yes, that in reality they provide that the fermentation does not help, but only the numbers win. e of the armed forces, the size of the army, a and the qualitative composition. so, uh, they stipulate that in order not to lose, uh russia they will be forced to lead nato troops. yes, and in principle, they are already nato troops in the form. here are the crews. uh, nato countries yes, it is, if open, uh, the start of hostilities by nato on the territory of ukraine is already open transfer. e personnel units there, then what this says, this is all the use of not only tactical nuclear weapons of all types of weapons in order to be touched, but the polish ambassador continues. here on the witches in poland after this ridiculous stupid absolutely
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espionage business, which they uh, that's how they say they just bungled it on their knees, and they dragged belarusians in there. and now it's getting bigger and bigger. it is clear why they are doing exactly that. well, here is an interesting statement, stanislav zharin, spokesman for the minister of coordinator of the polish special services, declares the investigation of activities, the spy network organized by russia will be continued. we need to make sure that all participants identified are held accountable. and andrey, don't you think it sounds like that, so the shoes delayed it counterintelligence. it's been a week now that these belarusian spies are already there , military counterintelligence is detaining two more spies. one russian, one belarusian, and all zharim says yes, there are about 20 people there. these are the spies that we caught during the start and that they show that we are doing a great job and we see that they are preparing for zelensky's visit. most likely, an information fund should be created. look , the spies were caught, we’ll put weapons there, ready
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to fight, if anything, everything is done for such some new aggressive statements. well, as for spies, of course, we were all very surprised that there were six ukrainians, three belarusian oppositionists all together, they worked for russia, it turned out that even in the polish media how they presented this situation, that there, it turns out, some kind of spies with east without the sound of nationality knowledge, because if you say that these are ukrainians. the next step is how we filter, how we accept them, what they do here in general. well , society does not know this yet, they do not throw it up. that there is, apparently, the matter is still something with threads, because the first step in this case is not barking towards belarus that we are bad here, but to filter our ukrainians, whom you took a million people there. here, look for spies there. no need to drag our countries here. the main thing is always. that's how much has been going on. even the cold wars had various spy scandals. and after all, a spy is in fact his importance or significance determined by his access to thelma or other secret state secret documents
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of state importance, right? a? a, if it's, well, uh, nominee of some kind of employees who just unequivocally. here you will have a belarusian passport, will you be spies? yes, why? and, because you passed somewhere near the kaleika in general, not like experts, but simply e citizens of poland and europe in general should understand that well , what a spy. they took him all somewhere in the nato headquarters that he was sitting and they pulled him out here, yes, then it was a small self-presentation of evidence. look here, uh, we had all the evidence. here it is what the body was showing. all have been reported. mm, state security officers. they tell you how it all happened. there is not a single intelligible comment here. well, what those people comment on, well, just laughter is visible. what, well, a single character, why do poles today?
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this is allowed, given that we are witnessing what was just a genocide with migrants, when here is a small thing, this runaway soldier, who, well , unfortunately, ended badly now, in general. it is too. we are driving a situation where foreign citizens are not detained present no evidence. and silence. not a single human rights activist, not a single fighter for human rights. even the genus will not open. why are we calling now? well, they looked, they are using an action, in principle, an american one, that is, in mexico there is an iron fence for the same price. this means that it is not guarded by regular troops there. and such rangers, that is, well, some, in general, volunteers and poles took them there, theron. that is, again, these are not the military, but people who pulled them from a slave from somewhere and hunt from here. phones are taken away. as migrants told money, someone is thrown away and beaten. that is, there is no discipline there somehow, so, of course, yes. there is the same clear picture. regime yes, they are turning into real traffickers
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, which means that the minister of the interior, kaminsky started it. uh, the belarusian side received a clear signal that while the pochebu were in prison, the border crossing in the beaver forests would be closed. if how much will be released tomorrow. well, it's like it won't be money, and still there won't be chairs. this you know the fact is that today these are the positions of the polish authorities. well , let's say they are so russophobic, belarusian, as you like, but they are ruled by only one thing, not hatred. you see, this is hate. i don’t know, she grew up, of course, the old days. it is constantly felt, but today. she, as you know, has grown like a mushroom, and she rules them with an unimportant question. but we are still our closest neighbors. and we must clearly draw the line between the current political regime in poland and the local population and say that these are two. well fundamentally different groups. definitely definitely here i will tell you, so i worked
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for many years in brest, i will, uh, say that relations between the borderlands are well restrained by the economic component. yes, that's why they have a polish policy here, let's say the poles, uh, their leadership. no, of course, does not share the question of a significant group that are supported. well, we should also look at the demand, but the population and, uh, the political summer of today in poland are, in general, different concepts and they have different values. what do you think should to distinguish between principles, you understand even the situation now with truckers who are making claims to the polish government that they are losing their jobs and that their jobs are noticed by the carriers of belarus, the moves went through the cast overflowing borders , they cannot even earn. start because it’s not without reason even when there are some holidays. eh,
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official state events take place, then the president of the republic of belarus congratulates the people. yes, that is, the people, because we understand perfectly well that, yes, the people chooses his government. and uh, how this is also a separate conversation, but it concerns ordinary people, it's just that consumers are people of citizens of a given state, only from the side that someone wants. uh, how to prolapse their interests or declare their interests , our viewers agree to declare their rights. the fact is that our programs are watched on the internet, including those who live in poland now and they periodically. that's just what they pay attention to. here are your comments. here , in fact, under each video you can find here interesting comment. he is revealingly one of the many under the interview video to say, let's see a big hello, everyone from poland really. ordinary poles do not want to fight russians, they are our soldiers, and in general they treat russians normally, but very many. he knows the truth, because in polish tv there is one lie. russian channels are all turned off.
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and many more people who are intimidated do not want to even hear the truth, they are afraid to talk on the phone on this topic, they only complain about the increase in prices for everything, alas, such a situation, something that we are talking about blocked access and channels of information, that is, there is no diverse information. i am pumped up only by the one that is beneficial in order to provoke negative attitudes, both towards russian and states. and all the same, people find sources find an understanding that it is necessary to consider various aspects of this issue and cool their heads to think that we are still people. we are neighbors, as you say correctly. there we will stay people, we will have to trade, work, meet, ride, then there is transparency in the boundaries of the movement of labor capital, the entire international economy is built on this free movement. eh, and so to speak normal relations. yes, yes , we monitor a little what he has. well, in fact, there are people somewhere. yes, but there is
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a capital flushing, there are children and there are senior courses of universities, for example, and there the senior school is being prepared specifically for the war. here it was not. the last one was there for three or four years. but the right justice party, apparently, has relied on such a militarization that we we also see youth movements, which are also very powerful in poland. it’s not belarus there , somewhere there are some football fans and that’s it. there are really politicized groups there, which are influential, who hold their own territory there, and these are the nationalists. they are very aggressive, that is, in ukraine. we saw how in 8 years you can grow this cannon fodder, which is absolutely in general, staunchly united , ready to fight in separate units related. but this is the youth, she is the most aggressive, the most dangerous, because even on ukrainian stones we see that the bet is made just he is somewhere the younger generation is easier to work with, easier to manage and, probably, as if without saying yes. if the people could make a herd of pigs there, but in a couple of years, with the help of smir, it is also washed off, of course, they are engaged in washing. well, if there is a plot near belarus there, there are somewhere in paddy wagons along the streets there, then they report that 30,000 in prisons must have water and honey and show gas. that is, not the situation that is real today, but the fact that it was still there 2 years ago, this picture
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is always present. well, look, and this is reflected in the perception of our people, and their neighbors for what is happening recently, the institute of sociology of the academy of sciences with the russian federation in second place. belarusians set the development of relations with china we see that there are fewer and fewer supporters of a neutral policy. yes, for a long time we thought that this is our kind of vizier , the united states is sure of the baltic countries and poland. that is, those of our neighbors with whom for a long time it is completely safe. e existed. and what in general, there are not enough castings. here, if we look , we see a simple message from the eu leader to stop hunger in the world. how does it ensure the delivery of russian and belarusian fertilizers to developing countries, and, despite the sanctions , it would seem that the lithuanians should be the first to rejoice, because such a reason to compensate for the sanctions losses is the sessions for belarusian fertilizers, which are discussed in the european union by prime minister shema. nity stated that the president of lithuania should not recognize
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any derogations on the european union. who bit our neighbors, what kind of rabid dog? you correctly defined very clearly, this uh russian verb, yes, to earn. yes, they had the opportunity to earn money, but for some reason they refused, but because , er, there is some kind of alternative, but they do not earn money, but receive some kind of subsidies , primarily from the united states of america , it is difficult to earn money. yes, it is necessary to negotiate with the belarusians. it needs to be contracts. and it is necessary to ensure the reloading of our gauge fertilizers there, our goods. and why? yes, it's easier to close all this, to issue an account for the united states of america from this year's funds. e through the blocking of the port infrastructure. it certainly is. subsequently. uh, it should have been compensated from non-governmental or other funds, uh, which are engaged with
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washington, or with lol, in another way, it ’s not. this deal will be pressed by the removal of the sun. still, it's common sense. well, common sense always prevails sometimes e will not wait. i think that will he will do the movement will do. uh, not some, but processes, but in reality, until we , most importantly, see liberation, we discussed, we must admit that our neighbors are in the regime of occupation, by the way, let's return to our main question. what conclusions we should see everything that happens around, but live with your own mind, this is understandable. and while we are succeeding, and on friday there will be a message from the president to the people of parliament. this is always a key event , attention is always riveted to it, and this year we see that also the speed of events and the situation. well she's just in a war country, we pay attention to it. what will you have at the time when the setting
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changes every minute of the same seconds? we do not see any stability today. and this message, as it were, like an annual message , to designate some particular strategic priorities, moreover, like me. i hope it touches everything in life again, like so what? we look forward to this. i think that this will be such a good analysis of the international situation , our place in this world and the prospects for our movement forward precisely in this so unstable, but in the world in which we should live and develop in the past message is remembered for the fact that the president is very frank. yes , a very frankly departed moment. yes, this general narrative, which is even classical. well, i don’t know the style of presenting this message, i asked belarusians three key questions. i suggest. now he is not the most important, are you ready to pay belarus for its own defense for
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its own states? are you following this road? born in the face of our society, are you ready? be proactive and work put in front of your family task and work at least for ourselves, and everything else that we have saved the state. and as soon as we use this internal potential of our people, every belarusian will be involved, we will be twice as rich. i heard the society of my president. well, if these were three questions, then three answers were received in two years. in principle, yes, we see that
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they are quite united, that many things have been overcome, which were still in the twentieth year. well, the truth remains problems, of course , how without it well, of course, that is, there is a certain ritual tradition to deal with the message. and even when it started to be a little delayed all the time, that is, people already feel so little anxiety. and why? but how that in russia there are components there, certain tsu that receives organs, that is, people there are sitting at notebooks, it is also important. that is, it's not just like you know our programs. yes , it’s popular, something else, such a reconciliation of clocks within the sovereign, of course, of course, since we have a president in the vertical of power. he always does it. so somewhere improvisation. maybe, well, there certainly is. templates. there are two, if we say so prepared in advance, here are certain theses that we hear and also remember how, and then people are a little disappointed. when they were not, that is, you need to understand that, well, this is still, yes, a procedural moment, and no matter how there will not necessarily be some kind of show right there. well, this is also important. and you need to listen carefully to take the time. alexei
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knows this for sure, so you need to be aware that our society has found it. it is built on the principle of the people of power, yes, and in reality the president, and through the message expresses those the key issues that concern our society are concerned from the point of view of the geopolitical situation. uh, there will be a war in our region, there will not be a war. yes, we continue to develop in this difficult period. and we see that he is the president, but he does not make this speech. eh, some, some formal just eh, read eh, worries eh, burns and suffers from all these problems, which at the same time, eh, worries ours. according to the belarusian society, therefore, the president's speech embodies this spirit, this movement of the entire belarusian people. i think
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after all, the president will pay great attention to internal security. if we take, for example, the situation in belarus over the past year, more than 12 terrorist attacks were the subject of internal, belarus and now these issues of internal security. and they simply demand from the population already and i don’t call on their vigilance here, there is somewhere to knock or report something, but the question is that we should be attentive to people and what is happening around us. it will be sure on this attention will be paid. this i am sure. well, thank you very much for participating in our program, thank you to our experts, but not saying goodbye to the audience in a couple of months. we continue to be very pleased to welcome to our studio a person who is known and loved by many readers and viewers from numerous works in literature and on
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television with us. we are flying leonid. hello mikhailovich. here, the truth is very glad to see you in belarus, you do not deserve others. of course, we are watching your activities, and we have seen how that is it was clear that they were discussing not so much the book, they were interested to hear your opinion on those events, as it is customary to talk about the agenda that surrounds us now. if we talk about your book, then, as far as i understand, it is not only about kazakhstan in the broadest sense. she including about this comes dramatic events about which journalists spoke. uh, bloody january. right? understood. yes? quite right. i was even going to call it like that then he says to me, well, it's somehow too frightening, maybe in this very dangerous region. everything around is burning and boiling. here in kazakhstan i always read everything well and calmly and suddenly it explodes and you know i'm sitting in moscow , the audience writes it for me to understand how this can happen. how can this all happen in one second? but, to be honest,
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when i flew there, i was sure that there was already a sea of people of my colleagues who were already finishing these books. it turned out that i wrote the first book about what happened in kazakhstan, i talked with dozens. e law enforcement officers bodies that maintained order. i talked to people. engaged in obvious pastes, and conversed with the victims. and i saw what happened there, i was shocked. you know at some point. i had the feeling that i was in stalingrad, this was the building of the city akimat of the city government. just burned. i was standing there while a naive beautiful city. and this happened, how could this happen, how this thin film of civilization flies off people, they turn. that's god knows. what do you mean, i wanted to tell you about it, but then i think that in general, but in the republics that we have recently been together. we know very little. well, i don't think it's really true . yes, it's a problem that it seems to us that we
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know and understand everything, but this is not so, because , of course. each nation has its own wealth. an interesting story. uh, the performances need to be told about this, and i decided that i would tell about a third of the book here and there. here is a detailed description of how and what happened, and then in kazakhstan, then in kazakhstan, the most interesting new president , the most interesting, from my point of view, outstanding politician, very curious, i've known him for a long time. it seems to me that he is underestimated and does not understand his significance. i wrote a biography for him. he is the son of a veteran. know for me. it was of great importance that his father came with frontal crutches. and his uncle , his father's brother, died at the front, and his father, it turns out, did not believe until the last that his son also died. all that can be , he had a shell shock, he is somewhere in the hospitals and you need to find him what is important from the infotovik, but there is a solid interesting character and then in general kazakhstan about
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what people live there, what they think, how they see the world. i think it is very important to tell a lot in general. just remember right away, yes, uh, they rushed to compare with other color revolutions, they started talking about what happened in kazakhstan - 2020, then they say, according to the same patterns. the same methodology. when you worked, you found these parallels of historical corporatism, or they compare historical situations. somehow i don’t, because i see the hand of people in everything. here are the figures of people. i am history. now over the years people have become through the biography of people without without through but the main figures. well, in my youth, since we all lived in the soviet union there, the role of the individual in history was rather limited. and what is it that the people decide everything, and they gradually came to the conclusion that everything depends on these figures, and the figure is different everywhere, people are different, so i need to understand what is necessary in each situation very well. you sometimes think
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that you have a pattern. he's here to you thoroughly. you need to understand exactly, you need to figure it out. it is necessary to delve into, maybe time goes by, but you don’t need to feel sorry for him this is our brother with you that we sometimes hurry were lightly a little bit criticized for this, we must admit, in principle. that's what journalism is. you must be the first to report what is happening a hundred lines in the room. you must be able to write instantly. standing, though the walls. this one side is getting errors high. now we have the other side is that people want to understand what is really happening. it is clear that in the years of my youth, in order to find out what happened, i had to wait until tomorrow, my grandfather sent me for newspapers. so, when he began to get the mailbox . i would bring the truth. he's reading on your phone right now. message that happened any number. god forbid there the plane crashed someone took a picture. you know, but then there's terrible pilot error. this is where we need professional journalists
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who know how to work, where to go to pilots, to testers, to the creators of aircraft designs, and so on, professionals who will carry out the necessary analytical work and present. what do you think, here did the circumstances allow the time the facts the people with whom you communicated to collect this picture to understand the root cause and maybe even say so, after reading the book. we can draw such a conclusion. what do those events in kazakhstan teach us? why do we teach kazakhstan to everyone? well, i collected all the information that could be collected . maybe agree with me or disagree, but i'm not talking unfounded. here are the facts that happened people's opinions what i have learned and propose to see the picture, i do not offer my conclusions, because the viewer is a human being. as you have seen, here are the main reasons, maybe the prerequisites for
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what happened for some reason. and what needs to be or has already been done, kazakhstan so that this does not happen again, but, unfortunately, there is an evil will in everything and it manifested itself very noticeably there, and several various events coincided at once, whoever wants to carefully read this book came together, but them or looks. well, in any case, what i was told in speeches in kazakhstan. there inside them events, but kazakhstan was very lucky that at the head of the country there was a man who showed more decisiveness, in general, they underestimated him, only he is a diplomat , an intellectual, a very mild person. they absolutely thought, quite right. it turned out that it turned out to be an incredible solution. his assistants close to me tell me that the situation, when it is possible at all there , is the complete complete control of the situation
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