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about eighty games, and you can watch people and events from the world of sports in projects on belarus 24 tv channel. hello. thank you for being with us and welcome the guests of this edition as well. today, we are waiting for studio of the famous russian writer , tv presenter leonid mlechin, but let's start with the loud vladimir putin was the phrases of the deployment of nuclear weapons in belarus blew up the information front. let's start with this question and start, probably, and tell for those who still do not understand. and why do we need tactical nuclear weapons with ivanovich today's situation around belarus, i

will say so even a union state. it is such that, in general, the use of soft only soft war of force, that is, so far only the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons russian. well, still in some. well , you yourself said some. brought hysterics, and some heads and cooled down in this regard. for us it is of great importance today. here is one division near the kaliningrad region, the second division near grodno is being formed in poland poland is increasing its armed forces almost twice and again asking the united states to place tactical nuclear weapons weapon is what will be on our territory and applied. maybe, maybe, uh, by the belarusian armed forces, it also has a reciprocal value among six states of europe -

there are few nuclear weapons, and aviation above and uh, let's say some types of artillery, they are, let's say, sharpened for this today. and it's been there for over 40 years. why we cannot have nuclear weapons on our territory, although it will still be under the jurisdiction of the russian armed forces, this must also be understood. just when they started saying that belarus has turned nuclear neighing. it's not . it's not so absolute. we can use these nuclear weapons. let's just say that with the redaction. uh, the russian side on the other side. the russian federation has repeatedly emphasized that if some enemy troops enter the territory of belarus , then if it suddenly needs to be protected by all means, the russian federation has never hidden that all these means, but they

mean by default. what if, of course, god forbid such a scale implies and nuclear shield. he will also. well, let's just say that the nuclear umbrella over belarus just got closer and lower. alexey and why is there such a reaction after all? and so nervously excited, after all, vladimir putin alexander lukashenko has said more than once in recent months that guys, if you continue to violate the red lines in the same way, then we will systematically step by step or implement our security in the form in which which we understand it. oh well, we need to support oksan ivanovich in that part that over the past 30 years, but it did nothing else, as it concentrated its forces and means on our borders on the borders of the union state. and this applies not only to belarus. this also applies to the pskov region of the leningrad

region. we must be well aware that, and this is not just being done , by nato - it is, their strategic plans are oriented, and which, of course , are connected with seizing the kaliningrad region at some point of our weakening, and e , our western. e area. we have talked about this many times naturally. uh, hmm, those forces and means that are concentrated now and their strengthening is going on. a undoubtedly uh they give an opportunity to the nato command to washington london at some stage to decide on this operation for the presence, and tactical nuclear weapons completely destroy their plans. why do they only make one step on our territory , the application of tactical nuclear weapons completely destroys this entire group

within literally a few minutes there. yes, and then the meaning after uh, all these gestures. further there will be only peace negotiations. at volume with position what position. and the fact that they are aggressors, of course, should not only, but withdraw their troops, but also create the security zone that putin spoke about, that is, from here such nervousness that hinders the implementation of their plans and also wallpaper, you understand nato, the united states and, well, the political elites of the us , uh, great britain they, you know, come to investors with their business plan and this business plan is trying to implement and, of course, their ideas are financed. and when these ideas fail to materialize, that is, it is natural that investors will ask these political figures. and where is the result, where is the result that you captured? or weakened. uh, there will be no result for russia, yes, and

of course, and why are they nervous, because in the near future all this political lithium, which is now in power. she will have to answer to, and those who financed them. well, in the sense of very specific terms in this interview, vladimir putin called, and i, probably, the final answer for those abroad, who , as before, probably thought that lukashenka putin was bluffing when they say that when we are talking about national security, actually the people no one will joke and will respond by all possible means andrey what do you think this is the reaction this is the solution. you can see what i see, firstly, their tactics of working against us are changing, that is, after all, they probably are not planning some kind of direct military attack. but such a hybrid operation. like, for example, the capture of the border region. look who they are preparing. these terrorists are extremists, local people. in general, those who know the specifics there know the language and what we have identified, for example, in the bryansk region, is preparation. these are the berg who can enter the area to capture it, and then we allegedly will not be able to use this

territory. here is such a weapon. that is , what concerns poland. yes, this is constant containment, so that we keep our troops there and thus divert forces in the polish direction. and now this problem is solved. that is, if we have such a tactical weapon, then we can throw more resources at some other area. for example, if there are problems on the south border, and if we talk about such an attack, it can only be combined, that is, on the one hand, they do this, and on the other hand, they do it. that's it, they're not stupid either. they consider nasheed unconditionally. what about application? well, as they say, like, we are not really worried, because there are certain signs of the use of such weapons, they are not constantly on alert, they should. let's just say, from the storage, let's say prepared, then it is connected to the carrier, then only after that it is used. that is, they say, here are the signs we do not see, so do what you want, in fact, the reaction is quite calm. at least what we will do according to the americans means, they believe that, apparently, we will not use it anyway, either. if we use it, they will be able to somehow either get ahead of us, or foresee it there, but while, apparently, such a situation they have, how

critical. most likely, when we were still changing the constitution, they already allowed the same. here, probably something will happen in belarus stand. well, specifically, this has already been decided by the president. here we accepted this option, but i will repeat on the storage. this is also very important, because russia is thus shown. so she fully trusts the situation in the country is controlled. this is not the 20th year, when it is not clear what would happen, that is, we can even place such types of weapons here. this is a good signal from the west, including, look here, here's full control shows that the republic of belarus and the russian federation have reached such a truly strategic partner. us completely trust us. or nuclear weapons, yes, under the control of the russian federation only with the order of the commander-in-chief of the russian federation , but nevertheless, like a union state that has been moving towards the implementation of such strategically important programs for a long time, uh, which would show that we are very close. well, this is such a very real step, and many experts are talking about it, that they really strengthened our cooperation and shows that we are really strategic partners. now,

more so. and it's like a step towards lead. still, these are moved figures that demonstrate that we are, despite all that we keep, and an attempt to find, e ways of dialogue, peaceful dialogue and regulation of all situations, but we are ready for the development of events. that is, as the president said, they wanted to attack us. let him try at the same time, if you remember the glory of the president as early as the second of july in the twenty-second year. on the eve of the day, do not depend on the solemn meeting. he said that this topic appeared immediately after the poles last time. through the americans were asked to bring them nuclear weapons to poland - this was discussed in detail, and then alexander lukashenko spoke to the president. putin said. and why do we pretend that nothing is happening? this is a very logical question. this time. well, in fact, according to the words of the russian federation, that is , the last step was that they were going

to supply ukraine with weapons with a joint wound. so that was the last step. this time and the second moment, uh, the republic of belarus, as it were, after the collapse of the soviet the union of the russian federation withdrew all nuclear violations from, including here, the republic of belarus, which the united states did not do anything necessary. that is, we are returning to positions that we will have a statement for the british minister of defense , which really stirred up, which became a trigger for the parties to more clearly articulate their nuclear plans, including. this is the decision to supply shells with combined uranium to ukraine , that's what you see behind this in the first place. probably alexander ivanovich about the features , you have already figured out the features of the shells. eh, everyone has already googled and read, but what should be seen in such a geopolitical sense, and against the background of the statement on the supply of these, probably, this is what is of interest to attempts

to scale tension absolutely absolutely, but they can deliver. so what, it doesn't change anything. well, as i say, what to do, that infecting something else in ukraine will not change anything. absolutely nothing will change the question , it will only be that, it seems to me, here it is even more necessary to take ecological, leaving after all. the best black earth. when we use it, such things do not happen, as when using an early core. yes, in the fact that there the plasma gives rise to the so-called uranium dust. and this territory becomes infected and, moreover, is born for a thousand years. simply in this case , we can say that there will be just literally large areas of contamination, that is, such people's lands, ukraine yes, in ukrainian they

do not have such radioactivity, but in in any case, they are no longer suitable for use in agriculture, the defeat of human power is coming. eh, people still sigh from the uranium dust. in addition to the fact that, in principle, destruction, yes, that is, it is on its own . at the moment of use, it understands that these shells are mainly used, they penetrate the thickness of e, 40 cm. yes, armor or reinforced concrete structures, that is, in reality they e, where they can be applied either against e heavy taxation, but this is not currently used on the territory of ukraine or opposite e, reinforced concrete structures, these are bunkers, yes, but the question , uh, in another is that and how many of these, uh, the uk itself has these shells, there are not so

many of them, uh, and uh, these technologies. if i speak correctly, if anything, alexander ivanovich rules. it was immediately in the sixties of the 60-70s that they began to be used , that is, in fact, we can say that the uk is once again, like all nato countries, trying to get rid of its old weapons and weapons, plus disposal. well, uranus used, which equipment is being disposed of in ukraine, and such outdated weapons, very expensive processes in order to dispose of these ammunition. and so, and gave them to them, they used them, infected the territory. well, it was correctly said that the infection of the territory is what it says about the fact that great britain and the collective west, in principle, already understand that they, but they will have to leave ukraine and it’s called and i won’t give it to you. yes?

why because they understand? what are those territories? ah, with fertile soil, they if but they will depart, that is, naturally, all grain deals will stop, or before and will act to the side. naturally, russia or there towards turkey yes, and in no case are western corporations, which currently own most of the fertile lands. ukraine already has its own net profit. this won't work. this is actually, but an attempt, but to write off these lands and tell our own e capitalists investors that, you see, we don’t give them away these lands just like that. it may be that, including these statements about the supply of sleep. in connected uranium is a sign that ukraine is preparing for some kind of decisive battle. well, i would say about uranus that when they hit the zaporozhye station on cooling stops, that is, it was much more dangerous, that is, it was precisely because of environmental pollution.

that could have had an effect there. well, i don’t know, yes, a quarter of europe is there, or up to half in a bad scenario. and of course, the fact that they use these early in the cores is actually not enough, which is not enough for me and plus there is still an incomprehensible volume, as for the decisive battles. well, probably, we will consider even further there the statement that the americans made the day before, that is, they are engaged in, i would say , such disinformation, because if this is something planned, it must be kept secret, or deceived by the enemy. here, well , they, of course, play all the time, so the statement, and the adviser to the commander in chief. here is what is embedded in the americans by the deyenneny rice who said. i believe that this spring ukraine will have a very powerful 5,000 allegedly from russia. so, according to a series of killed and 75,000 per month, this wounded, that is, 100,000 scattering loses. well , if the whole grouping is there, there are 500 or 400.000, it turns out that the grouping can be uni in 4 months? obey, if you believe such statements, that is, why should we believe that there will be a decisive battle. and here they are, ready for it. and if you look, this adviser is working, he does not advise , his task is to travel there to collect information, what are you doing, these are controllers who

sit there and just watch if weapons are stolen, how it is used, what fails? what works, that is, it is understood by the ukrainians themselves, in principle, know what to do. but these are the comrades who are there in the media processing. he is also this coach coach specialist in leadership. yes, there is a very young army. in fact. they say that the composition of the commune there is 40, and he is even 35 years old. that is, all of them who served in the army were thrown out of the army, because they may not be loyal, or there, somewhere through russia, we take young people. well, well done does. they also saw everyone there who cuts out their eyes someone shoots prisoners, that is, this is, unfortunately, if this is behavior. i think too. it is, as it were, provoked somewhere by american specialists there or by british ones. here they are more of a propagandist, that is, these things are informational. yes, they always have it and it works as dirty as possible. therefore, it is necessary to divide these statements of advisers into two. i believe that, firstly, we need to listen to russian statements, what russia will say what they see signs of an offensive there. they say that yes, especially not to say that there are signs of concentration troops in large cities, but then again. well,

the enemy is calculating all this. that is, you can collect something there, you can then disperse it. this is the game all the time, who will deceive whom, so you should not believe everything that they write and say, the decisive battle. many people say that something will definitely be decided this spring. well, a very american american adviser to the commander-in-chief will stick out what seems like an indicative moment. but how are you? you see the situation will be something it will be nothing planned gradually pressure on all by the russian armed forces and no problematic actions. i don't see it today. russia keeps only 150,000 mobilized in reserve. so they mobilized 300,000. yes, well, 150.000 were brought into battle. and 150,000 are on the second and on the third line. yes, it’s okay to understand, that is , in any case, all those two corps that are preparing the e-e apu of ukraine there, great britain in

germany, and so on. they just collide , let's say three. uh, three lines of defense inside or not defense, and after that there will be systematically destroyed. that is, i am today, so i won’t speak for the russian general staff, but it seems to me that russia is nevertheless set up to simply systematically grind the enemy’s manpower and military equipment. that's the situation was alexander ivanovich, too, will not lie. but there is a key offensive rule called one to six. if you want to attack, then your grouping should be six times larger, that is, the apu, but in reality it should be actually how many if three 300 million and a half? he is at there should be a person, plus not only a person , but also the armament of military equipment. and where it is not, therefore, all those who graduated from a military school of higher education understand perfectly,

some of our viewers. and we see how constantly leopards go there, that planes. they have already trained in the uk tankers decide, but decide, the living does not allow anything. yes, living force, because, uh , even if these leopards are sitting in polish e, crews, or some kind of planes are controlled there, who are the czechs or some words? uh, uh, the crews are pilots, but this is not for a massive attack. it doesn't mean anything, it's all incinerated. for a few days there. e massed by artillery shelling, yes information that some of them decided. desert and passed the final situation only 20% of those they trained somewhere in the uk 20% passed the final assessment.

you see, the worst thing, anything. we we can of course here uh exaggerate a little laugh at these figures, but remember the important statement that was made that week by uh the polish, and the military that a in reality, if the situation will get worse, then we, a will have to step in. that is, i must have said went went to poland in france and then tried to rewind to say that he didn’t mean it, but the bird flew out. and this is what, we said, yes, that in reality they provide that the war proxy mechanism is when the ukrainians themselves are fighting on the battlefield. she no longer rolls weapons does not help, but only numbers win. e of the armed forces numerically. army a and the qualitative composition, so, uh, they provide that, in order not to lose e russia they will be forced to lead nato troops. yes, and in principle, they are already

nato troops in the form. here are the crews. uh, nato countries yes, it is uh, if open uh, the start of hostilities by nato on the territory of ukraine is already open transfer. e personnel units there, what this is talking about is the use of not only tactical nuclear weapons of all types of weapons in order to deter this open attack on an allied state. let's continue the polish theme touched remembered the polish ambassador, uh, the witch hunt in poland continues after this ridiculous stupid absolutely espionage case that they, but how they say with forks or just there on their knees, and they dragged belarusians into it, and now it becomes more and more clear why they and do do exactly that , well, here's an interesting statement, stanislav zharin , the press secretary of the minister, the coordinates of the secret services of poland, states the investigation of activities, the spy network organized

by russia will be continued. we must make sure that all the participants in belarus well, in the same place, as if things continued, that is, literally weeks passed. they are already declaring that this is what we have, which means that counterintelligence restrained this. it's been a week now that these belarusian spies are already there , military counterintelligence is detaining two more spies. one russian, one belarusian, and all zharim says yes, there are about 20 people there. these are the spies that we fished out there during the beginning of it, what do they show? what do you see, we work so cool and see, they cook there, uh zelensky most likely, it is necessary to create an information fund. look, they caught weapons from us there, they put them ready to fight, if anything, everything is falling down and there . recently he came, which means that the king is already the current great britain, that is, also, apparently, they were talking about something, that is, they, most likely, that an international fund is being created for so nothing of some new aggressive statements. well , as for the spies, of course, we were all very surprised that there were six ukrainians, three belarusian oppositionists all together, they worked for russia, it turned out that even

in the polish media, how they presented this situation, that there, it turns out, some spies from the east, without indicating nationality, because if you say something ukrainians, the next step, the way we filter, how we accept them, that they they do it here at all. well , society does not know this yet, they do not throw it up. that is, apparently, the matter is still sewn with threads, because the first step in this case does not bark towards belarus that we are bad here, but to filter our ukrainians, in which you accepted a million people there. here, look there spies. no need to buy here. our countries always that's how many different espionage scandals there have been throughout even the cold war. and after all, a spy, in fact , his importance or significance is determined by his access to certain documents of secret sof secret state importance, right, huh? and what if it's, well, uh, some nominal employees who just unequivocally. here you will have a belarusian passport, will you be spies? yes, why? and, because you are somewhere near

kaleyki passed by road stations , that's why you will be, well, it's clear, all sane people are not just experts, but simply e citizens of poland and europe in general should understand that well, what a spy. they took him all somewhere at nato headquarters that he was sitting and they pulled him out here, but then it’s to remove himself by presenting evidence. look here, uh, we had all the evidence. this is what the body showed. all have been reported. mm, state security officers. they tell you how it all happened. there is not a single intelligible comment here. well, what those people comment on, well, just laugh. nothing can be seen that well, the heart is a single character. why are the poles allowed this today, given that we are witnessing the fact that there was just a genocide with migrants, when here is a small thing, this runaway

soldier, who, well, unfortunately , ended badly, but he told a lot of things, how they simply destroyed and shot these people at the borders, no one else presented now. generally. it is too. we eat such a situation, as if detaining foreign citizens do not present any evidence and silence. not a single human rights activist, not a single fighter for human rights. even the genus will not open. why did we call martial law there now? they have an emergency area, that is, they do not work there. not the media, not some kind of human rights activists, that is, yes, the second point, well, look, they are using an action, in principle, an american one, that is, in mexico there is the same iron fence wall. it means that he is being guarded there, not by regular troops. and such rangers, that is, well, some kind of volunteers and poles, in general, took there. before defense. that is, again, this is not a military man, but people who pulled them out of work from somewhere. there 2 weeks. they are on rotation there, what they took. they drink there, so they fight all sorts of hazing. and, of course, you can still hunt people from here. phones are taken away.

as migrants told money, someone is thrown away and beaten. that is, there is no discipline. as such, therefore, of course, yes, and there is the same clear picture, especially since there is a regime. yes, they turn into real traffickers. so, the minister of the interior kamensky said. uh, the belarusian side received a clear signal that while how much is in prison , the border crossing in the beaver forests will be closed. if pochem will be released tomorrow, the day after tomorrow the passage in the beaver forests will be opened. that's it, how can i do it? in the evening, money in the morning, or what? well, it's like there will be no money, anyway, something will not happen. who are you, you know? the fact is that today, uh, the positions of the polish authorities? well, so they say, so russophobic belarusian, as you wish, but they are ruled by only one hatred. you see, this is hate. i don’t know, she grew up, of course, in the old days. she is constantly felt, but today she, as you know,

has grown like a mushroom, and she is wrong and he is wrong. but we are still our closest neighbors. and we must clearly draw the line between the current political regime in poland and the local population, and he says that these are two. well , fundamentally different bands, definitely definitely here, uh, i’ll tell you so i worked for many years in brest and uh, i will say that the relations between the border uh, population groups and the polish belarusian are very warm and, let's say , well restrained even by the economic component. yes, that's why they have a polish policy here, let's say the poles, uh, their leadership. not, of course, not shared by a sizable group that is backed by management. well, we should also look at the demand, but the population and, uh, the political summer of poland today is, in general, a different concept and they have different

values. what do you think should to distinguish, in principle, you understand even the situation now with truckers who are making claims by searching for the government that they are losing their jobs, that their jobs are being replaced by carriers from belarus from the russian federation, yes, that is, but at the same time, lithuania again accuses the republic of belarus that cargoes as closed crossings went through fiercely overcrowded borders. that is, for example, they can’t even figure out how to earn money. well, in the sense that this is a separate conversation, we must definitely start, because that uh is not without reason and even when some holidays uh, official state holidays occur. that the president of the republic of belarus congratulates the people. yes, that is, to the people, because we understand perfectly well that, yes, the people choose their own government. and how it chooses is also a separate conversation, but these are people who are very much in many ways. that part of the population that understands that everything that happens, and it concerns ordinary people, it's just

that consumers are people of citizens of this state, only from the side that someone wants. uh, how to lobby their interests or declare their interests , our viewers agree to declare their rights. the fact is that our programs are watched on the internet, including those who live in poland now and they periodically. that's just what they pay attention to. here are yours in the comments. in fact, under each video you can find here an interesting comment. he is revealingly one of many under a video of an interview with famous russian blogger dmitry puchok recorded last week. and then we saw this comment and understood what it was about really needs to be said. let 's see a big hello to all from poland indeed, ordinary poles do not want to fight with the russians, that is not our warriors. and in general, they treat russians normally, but very many do not know the truth, since in polish tv there is one lie - russian channels are all turned off. and many more are intimidated, they don’t even want to hear the truth, they are afraid to talk on the phone on this topic, they only complain about the increase in prices for everything, alas, such

a situation that what we are talking about blocked access to the information channel, that is, no varied information. i am pumped up only with the one that is beneficial in order to provoke negative attitudes, both towards russian and states, and still people find sources find an understanding that it is necessary to consider various aspects of this issue and cool their heads to think that we are all still people. we are neighbors, to say the least. yes, the neighbors do not choose and we will continue to live, when you all this is over, sooner or later it will move to another stage into another phase, but we will live there and stay people, we will have to trade and work meeting. ride, that is, the transparency of the boundaries of the movement of labor, capital and the entire international economy is built here on this free movement. eh, and so to speak normal relations built. yes. yes , we monitor a little what they are doing there, but in fact there are people somewhere. yes, but there is a capital flushing, that is, children, and there are senior courses of universities, for example, there the senior school is being prepared

specifically for the war. here it was not. the last one was there for three or four years. and here's the right justice party, apparently made a bet for such militarization, what we see even in youth movements, which are also very powerful in poland, it’s not belarus, there are some football fans there, and that’s all. there really are politicized groups that are influential, who hold their own territory there. and then there are the nationalists. they are very aggressive, that is, in ukraine. we saw how in 8 years you can grow this hand-meat, which is absolutely, in general, convinced , ready to fight in separate units , the same thing, apparently, if in poland. therefore, yes people of the older generation, of course, they have known our country for many years. some kind of connection is traded there, there are other related ones. this is the youth, it is the most aggressive, the most dangerous, because even in the crimean army we see that the bet is made just this young generation is easier to work with , easier to manage and, probably, as gabis said, yes, from any nation you can there is a herd of pigs to make, but in a couple of years and with the help of the media, and smith is polish - this is also washed out, of course, they are engaged in washing. we, if we see, there are stories about belarus there paddy wagons drive through the streets there, which means that they report that 30,000 in prisons necessarily show gas with water cannons, that is, not the

situation that is real today, but what else was there 2 years ago. this picture is present all the time. well, look, and this is reflected in the perception of our people, and in order for their neighbors to happen recently , the institute of sociology of the academy of sciences published the data of a sociological survey, and the priorities of belarusians in foreign policy are in the first place , the predictable union state with the russian federation, the second place is belarusians set the development of relations with china we see that there are fewer and fewer supporters of a neutral policy. yes, for a long time we thought that this is our kind of business card, there are fewer and fewer supporters, and to unfriendly countries. belarusians are absolutely confident in the usa , the baltic countries and poland, that is, those of our neighbors, with whom for a long time it is quite safe for themselves. e existed. and what does lithuania lack in general? here, if you look , we see what the authorities write the american publication on politics secretary general antonio gutares visited brussels to convey a simple message to the eu leader

to stop world hunger. how, having ensured the delivery of russian and belarusian fertilizers to developing countries , and, despite the sanctions, it would seem that lithuanians should be the first to rejoice, because such a reason to compensate for the sanctions losses to support their ports, but no, lithuanian politicians. i quote that they intend to oppose the exceptions and sanctions for belarusian fertilizers, which are being discussed in the european union , the prime minister shamanites said that the president of lithuania should not accept no digressions on european, advice. who bit our neighbors, what kind of rabid dog? we correctly defined very clearly, this uh russian verb, yes, to earn. yes, they had the opportunity to earn money, but for some reason they refused, but because , er, there is some kind of alternative, but they do not earn money, but receive some kind of subsidies , primarily from the united states of america , it is difficult to earn money. yes, it is necessary to negotiate with the belarusians. it needs to be

contracts. and this must provide an overload our gauge fertilizers there our goods. and why yes, it’s easier to close all this, issue an account for the united states of america from the funds and say compensate us for this and they receive the sanctions that have been introduced, and against belarus since the twentieth year. e through the blocking of the port infrastructure. this is definitely in the future. uh, it had to be compensated from not the one or other funds, uh, that are engaged with washington or london otherwise it doesn't work. this deal will be pressed withdrawal sun. still, it's common sense. well , common sense always prevails sometimes, er, only in such an intellectual game. and when

a hmm there are banknotes? yes, if it just doesn’t pressurize, i think that he will make a movement, he will make, uh, certain processes , but in reality, until we, uh, most importantly, do not see the liberation of the baltic countries and poland from occupation by the united states america yes, because we have just discussed what we have just discussed, we must admit that our neighbors are in the occupation regime, by the way, let's get back to our main question. what conclusions do we have to see everything that happens around, but live with our own mind. this is understandable. and while we are succeeding, and on friday there will be a message from the president to the people of the parliament - this is always a key event , attention is always riveted to it, and this year we see that also the speed of events and the situation. well, she's just doubly triple we pay attention to it. what are your expectations from this message, if there are any at all or konstantinovna, of course. uh, this is a message, really uh will be at a time when the installation is changing,

every minute every second no stability. we don't see it today. and this message, as if, like an annual message, will indicate some of them, including naturally our internal problems, our internal aspirations of our people. well, what do we expect from this. i think that this will be such a good analysis of the international situation in our place in this world and the prospects for our movement forward precisely in this unstable, but in the world in which we must live and develop in the past message was remembered by the fact that the president is very frank. yes, he went very frankly. at some point, yes , this general narrative, which is even classical, well, i don’t know the style of presenting this message, and i asked three key questions to belarusians. i propose now to recall this fragment, and then we will return to the current messages, please, belarusian people. my first question, but not the most important one, are

you ready to pay belarus? self-defense for your own state the next question are you willing to pay for this expensive thing, spawned by our society, are you ready? enterprising and everything else that we have kept the state. and as soon as we use this internal potential of our people, every belarusian is involved.

we'll be twice as rich man heard the society of his president. well, if it was three questions, then three answers were received in 2 years. in other words, in principle, yes, we can see that we are quite united, that many things have been overcome, which were still in the 2020s, but the truth is that problems remain. of course, as without it, but certainly, then there is a ritual. let it be reflected. this is to handle the message. and even when he began to postpone a little all the time, that is, people already feel so little anxiety. and why and how and what, that in russia , remember, putin's message was also postponed in connection with the military operation. that is, it is a necessary part of our political life. and of course, in addition to such a spectacular yes, there are components there, certain tsu that receive organs, that is, people sit there with notebooks , taking notes on this. that is, it’s not easy, how do you know our show? yes, it’s popular to explain something, it’s also this green such a reconciliation of clocks inside the sovereign, of course, that is, of course, since we have the president’s vertical of power. he always does it. so somewhere from improvisation.

maybe, yes, well, of course there are patterns, there is a canvas, if we say so prepared in advance, these are certain theses that we hear and also remember . what is needed there to expect directly some such incredible statements, and then people were a little disappointed when they were not. that is, you need to understand that, well, it’s still a procedural moment, and no matter how it’s not necessary to directly find some there, well, this is also important and you need to listen carefully to the audience that m-m our society is already built on the principle of the people of power, yes, and in reality the president, and through the message expresses those key issues that concern our society worries from the point of view of the geopolitical situation. uh, there will be war in our region, there will be no war, the second question is the economy. we will stand, we will not put up, we will

have a bright future, we will survive in these conditions, they are simple and e the key question. and where should we develop further in this difficult period, and we see that he is the president, but he does not make this speech. uh, some, some kind of formal just uh, read uh hmm and his speech and we will end here we see that the president u is going through uh. it burns and suffers from all those problems that are at the same time. uh care our belarusian society, so the president in his speech personifies this spirit , this movement of the entire belarusian people. it seems to me that the president will still pay great attention to internal security. if we take, for example, the situation in belarus over the past year, more than 12 terrorist attacks have been undertaken

inside belarus and now these are internal security issues. and they simply demand from the population already and i don’t call on their vigilance here, somewhere there is something there knock or inform, but the question is that we must be careful. to the people and what is happening around us, it will be sure that attention will be paid to this. this i am sure. well, thank you very much for participating in our program, we thank our experts, but we don’t say goodbye to the audience, in a couple of minutes we’ll treat another conversation with a russian writer, publicist, tv presenter leonid. stay with us. and we continue to be very happy to welcome to our studio a person who is known and loved by many readers and viewers on numerous works in literature and on television with us. leonid is milky or mikhailovich hello. here,

the truth is very glad to see you in belarus, you do not deserve others. of course, we are watching your activities, and we saw how at the minsk book fair, where you presented your book, people accepted you for autographs and were included in the questions. that is, it was clear that it was not so much the book that they were interested in hearing your opinion on those events, as it is customary to say on that the agenda that surrounds us now, if we talk about your book, then how much in these that journalists talked about. uh, bloody january, right? i understand. yes, absolutely right. i was even going to call it that later, he says to me, well, it’s somehow too frightening, maybe, actually frightening , you know, i was shocked because i was in kazakhstan , well, not long before these events , kazakhstan was not the first for me times about which he wrote such a hard instability in this very dangerous region. it's all around there glowing. and kipelov in the cauldron. and in kazakhstan , i always considered everything as i saw the chronicle. i read it and i was completely shocked. i think

we need to understand how this can happen. how can this all happen in one second? but, to be honest, when i flew there, i was sure that there was already a sea of ​​people of my colleagues who were already finishing these books. it turned out that i wrote the first book about what happened in kazakhstan, i talked with dozens. e law enforcement officers who defended order and talked to the people occupying the pastas, talked to the victims. and i saw what happened there, i was shocked. you know at some point. it was a feeling that i was in stalingrad was this building of the city akimat of the city government. just burned. i stood there while the equipment. so they arranged it and left it there for about 20 minutes. i was completely shocked, alma-ata could not come to my mind wonderfully, the southern beautiful city. and this is what happened. how could this happen, how this thin film of civilization flies off people, they turn. here is god

knows what i would like to tell in this, but then i think that in general, but in the republics, to which we were together recently. we know very little, we think they really are a disaster, that it seems to us that you know and understand everything, but this is not so, because, of course. each nation has its own rich and interesting history. eh, performances need to be told about it. i decided that i would tell. and here there are three books there is a detailed description of how and what happens, and then kazakhstan and then in kazakhstan the most interesting the new president is the most interesting from my point of view an outstanding politician is very curious. i have known him for a long time. it seems to me that it’s not up to evaluating him and he doesn’t understand him, so i wrote to him, right? he is the son of a front-line soldier, you know for me it was of great importance his father came from the front on crutches, and his uncle his father's brother died at the front. and his father, it turns out, did not believe until the last that the marriage was lost and told his son that maybe he

had a shell shock. he's in the hospital somewhere and we need to find him. only a lot later they found the grave, where he died, and his uncle is so important to me, it is of great importance from an informatician, but there is also a solid interesting character, and then in general kazakhstan about how people live there, what they think, how they see the world. i think it is very important to tell, there are many parallels in general. just remember right away, yes, they rushed to compare what happened in kazakhstan with other color revolutions and started talking about minsk 2020, which they say is according to the same pattern. the same methodology. so, when you worked, did you find these parallels, or is it separate? history, fucking, to be honest, i'm afraid of parallels. now i will tell you why, in principle, there is even such a section of the science of historical corporatism, which compares historical situations. oh, somehow i don’t, because i see the hand of people in everything.

here is the figure of people, i am history. now, over the years, i began to see through the biography of people without through e, the main figures. well, in our youth , since we all lived in the soviet union, there was a rather limited role of the individual in history, that it is that the people decide everything, and they gradually came to the conclusion that everything depends on these figures, and the figure is different everywhere, people are different, so you need to understand them very well in each situation. you sometimes think that you have a pattern. he will help you, not for everyone, in the history of what is happening around us. we must understand each situation. doctoral. that's perfect. you need to understand exactly . we need to delve into it, maybe it takes time, but we don’t have to feel sorry for this , this is our brother’s concern with you that we are sometimes in a hurry, there were quests a little behind we are being criticized. what is something? one must admit, in principle, to this essence of journalism. you must be the first to report what is happening a hundred lines per issue. you must be able to write instantly. standing, though the walls.

this is one side now, but the other side is that people want to understand what is really happening. it is clear that in the years of my youth, in order to find out what happened, i had to wait until tomorrow, and my grandfather sent me for newspapers. so, when he began to get the mailbox. i brought it. true, he was now reading messages on your phone about what happened. any person. god forbid, the plane crashed there, he took a picture. you know, well, then it arises, the main thing people want to understand, and why it fell, the design is poor fueling, prosperity, the weather, a terrible mistake of the pilot, this is where professional journalists are needed who know how to work, where to go to pilots, testers, creators of aircraft designs, and so on professionals who will carry out the necessary analytical work. imagine how you are do you think that it was possible whether the circumstances allowed the time, the facts, the people with whom you communicated to collect this picture

to understand the root cause and maybe even say so, after reading the book. we can draw such a conclusion. what do those events in kazakhstan teach us that kazakhstan taught us all. well, i gathered all the information i could gather. well, that's all, to know, only the almighty, we are earthly creatures, and i formulated for myself whether to treat me or disagree, but i'm not talking unfounded. i state. here are the facts that happened people's opinions what i learned and offer to see the picture, i do not offer my conclusions, because the audience. as you have seen , here are the main reasons, maybe the prerequisites for what happened for some reason. and what needs to be or has already been done by kazakhstan so that this does not happen again, but, unfortunately, there is an evil will in everything and it manifested itself very noticeably there, and several various events coincided at once, whoever wants to carefully

read this book came together, but not external, well, in any case, what i was told in kazakhstan is about internal events, but kazakhstan was very lucky that at the head of the country there was a man who showed determination to his will, in general, he was underestimated. only he is an intellectual diplomat. it was very soft. the man was absolutely crushed thought quite right. it turned out, yes, it turned out to be absolutely in him , incredible determination to me there, his assistants close people tell me that the situation is when god knows what is happening there. not a second of doubt not a second of any unrest of anxiety. uh, in peace, complete in full possession of the situation correctly the decision was made , including the decision to seek help from the organization of the contract, the team absolutely definitely absolutely exactly, i remember there were some crazy comments. all this gives the country into the power of the invaders. everything means the end

of the country. what a madness belarusian contingents arrived from russia. uh, did other countries submit their content? yes, everything that was needed was taken under control of strategic facilities, airfields , ammunition depots, power plants, which was the point, as i understand it. the whole world saw first that the president tokai and the state power are in place and recognized as allies by the communities. it kicked out right away. eh, all colline. uh, the second troops of the kazakh security services were able to transfer duty. uh, because of the accident, my colleagues have to start restoring order for a few days. this happened , it didn’t line up, it didn’t sound, and our troops and yours returned home, having completed the task absolutely perfectly from my point of view. it's just. this story will go in. after all, we are witnessing that the breed of western politicians is now shrinking, well, macron schultz ah, son

fonderaine, that is, it seems to me that i can’t even say that they are not leaders, but managers, and the state is like corporations. really? we won't see it there again. no, i don’t know nicolas, neither the new chirac, nor is time flowing, it’s already passed, you know, i thought about this before the current events, and then i came to the simple conclusion that in fact the scale of the tasks facing the head of some it is not difficult for a western european state to raise the tax there by 1.9%, or by one do as much as three tenths of a percent. pension age. there, as in france, or up to sixty-five or up to sixty-four , the scale of the tasks stood. eh, i was talking about such a large-scale, not requiring strong politicians, it was about such very simple things. it's just different times now. i think it will. although on the other hand. you know how when we look into history we see bright figures, but we forget that they were not always there and not everything is filled with bright ones, i already say, damn it, not bright

bright ones. unfortunately, they don't happen very often. i , as such a professional biographer, hunted for your heroes. actually not so much. unfortunately, there are not so many such outstanding figures capable of changing time, for example, and it seems strange. you observe or maybe we see it this way, that there is, for example, either another breed or another league, there are sitting putin lukashenka, that is, they are even according to m-m well charisma according to physiognomy according to the manners of objects of fussiness. yes, that is, there is readiness. how do you say to remember gromyka sits down. i began to negotiate and speak out, even if these positions are not match as agreed. it's just that when we see different formats for different tasks for managers, there are leaders of heads of state, and they are of different calibers. and the task. we have a common global world today. the common task is before us. well, i think that those politicians that you spoke about initially faced such large-scale tasks that

the europeans had not had for a long time. it just wasn't. you know how there was no demand, but it seems to me that this is nothing more than mine. i had a demand, there was no need. well let's see, there 2-3 years ago. there are four five years ago, the scale of the problems. well, in european. the continent is very different. well, really. as you rightly say there for the manager, but major political decisions did not have to be made, but did not appear. right now. well, we’re looking at such large-scale figures appear, like you also know, if you remember that you were a daughter, but did they draw outstanding figures? no , unfortunately, not at all an outstanding figure. in fact, it is not often here that one wants to reflect, that is, not for a high-profile headline for this question. namely. maybe be so that we and the audience think together with you. if you look back at our history, you can highlight some. mistake number one or catastrophe number one, which, like a bifurcation point, parted us in a different direction. we could be in another place

you will know, i think that the seventeenth year and i, with firm conviction, have already written a book about this for me and made enough historical films. i think that if only the events of the seventeenth year, we would now live in a country with a population of at least 300 million people, but in a prosperous country, and the russian empire at the beginning of the 20th century. it was included in the top five most different states. now we would go to the top five most different states. we would not have lost so many people, we would not have gone through such monstrous trials. we would have lived now a long time ago already, prosperous with a prosperous country of events, the seventeenth year there were disasters. well, in fact, if we didn’t enter the first world war, it’s further , rewinding that back, if the same stolypin had not been killed in kiev in 911 theater, he would have remained the head of state, he would not have allowed russia to enter

the first world war, there would not have been the first world war there would have been no events of the seventeenth year, and russia at the beginning of the 20th century developed rapidly and economically politically spiritually, after all, and the silver age this is the heyday of incredible art here in belarus, by the way, the incredible development of painting. here are outstanding masters of painting of the 20th century, golden golden brushes. if you can, so to speak, here, right here, and they were prevented by the revolution. they are here, that's all they are. done, it would remain. here, they all dispersed, fled and disappeared, so for me the event of the seventeenth year is not a turning point, but disastrous for russia in russia , i mean, not russian in the ethnic sense. the empire of the state of which everyone would live together with you. yes, my ancestors are all, yes , from belarus summing up, maybe

the conversation is not bold enough to delay more, but peering into the future. that's all the same question, at least forecasts. you do not like, but at least look into the future like that for you. what colors does it draw? you know i'm really very careful in this sense, but i would like to hope that i can still write a book about how these turbulent times ended and then try to figure out how it all happened? well i hope i get the opportunity. i am nikolaevich thank you very much for participating in our program. let me remind you that our guest was a wonderful journalist writer, and tv presenter leonid is milky. thanks for being