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my name is pavel zhulpa. i am dr. aibolit who sews paws on cats and dogs. today i would like to talk about the profession of a veterinarian on career guidance in this profession about the rehabilitation of animals and people with the help of animals about the law of the project on responsible attitude to animals, but problems in the state veterinary service and the prospects for its solutions. hello, on

the air, the program, say, do not be silent in the studio , victoria popova and tatyana shcherbina and pavel zhulpa is our guest today. good afternoon. hello, you are a veterinarian and you are even called a unique doctor. why because you are the first who in our country began to install titanium prostheses for animals and your first patient was a dog named hobby. uh, well, you probably remember the dog, so tell me what it all started, well, about the unique. i would, to be honest, it seems to me exaggerated how unique i am, i'm just the first one who decided in belarus for such an operation. and what seems to me the most interesting thing is that it was not in the capital, nor in any regional one. uh, the center of a-a in a small, well, relatively small district center of the city of lida and that was already 3 years ago. eh, a lot of things have been forgotten for a long time.

yes, this dog is a hoppy. now she lives with me. her story was tragic enough, but with a happy ending, it was brought by volunteers. and when well, just for examination, because she did not have a paw, well, rather, not because she was not there, because she was injured. she had a bare bone. it was all, of course, a terrible sight and while, uh, before the doctor who needed to help the patient, i had a choice. what to do, or amputate higher and relatively speaking, well, no matter how there is no paw, no problem. many do this, or else try to help maintain a full-fledged porosity. and thus, as much as possible to prevent further complications with the other limb with the spine, because the patient was already of age and order. it was 10 years old at the time of admission, now it’s already 13. and we decided to take a chance at that time. uh, i only knew there was

3d printed prosthetic technology. here are similar prostheses, uh, which are printed on a 3d titanium printer, and at that time we had nothing but a desire to help and little knowledge that this can be done, but thanks to the fact that the world is not without good people, but we contacted, uh, the person who i've been doing this technique for quite some time now. this is sergey gorshkov novosibirsk ah. he helped us to do this, he modeled prostheses, he printed them in novosibirsk, and thanks to the efforts of many people , more than one took part in this operation. and everything worked out for us and a hobbit, a happy dog ​​who lives at my house, who participates in the rehabilitation of children with disabilities, who shows by his own example that no matter what happens to you, they can help you and you should enjoy life every day, despite on that despite the fact that the dog was of age , it turns out, and you were not afraid to do it. she

was normal. yes, the indications are all before the operation, except for the paw, that is, there are many such water ones right there. yes, when if you start already a pirate, that from a young organism growing there, for example, but that one, well, i usually say that retirement age is not a sentence. yes, and it hurts just like the young one. yes, it is clear that its lifespan will be much less, but nonetheless. our task is to help and how long she lives after that is not so important. the main thing is that it there will be a quality life. the main thing is that she will not get sick. and most importantly, she will feel complete. this was the fundamental moment when we decided to do or not to do. well, the secret will be revealed. and when we just thought that one of my friends could do this. same. from journalists. yes, he already directly said that i will print a paw and do it. well, to be honest, i didn't have a choice. well, since he called himself that and

climbs, yes, therefore, as a matter of fact, well , how did it all turn out that everything worked out, therefore, the protes from 3d printing. i just never saw, to be honest, that this is it, yes. this is 3d printed. by the way, these are prostheses, two prostheses of our future patient and his name is jack, he got under the belt. now i don't remember, in my opinion slutsk. did it happen 2 years ago or a year ago? yes, this is a model of his paws, a plastic model and laps, that is, a technology that follows. a patient who needs prosthetics is examined. this is a computed tomography, by the way, looking back. here's a hobby we've been doing it's all x-ray. it was 10 times harder not to make a mistake than to roll. i'm still relatively speaking, it's easier for you to eat sizes. nervy drew the prosthesis that you need, and gave it to a printing company, they printed it for you, and you received and operated on, and therefore the essence

of prosthetics in general. e , osseointegrated is called in that the bone e prosthesis grows into bone, these porous structures, thanks to this, the bone simply grows to the prosthesis and this prosthesis becomes a continuation of the limb. that is why they do not sick. that's why they don't feel any discomfort when they walk, because it's a complete austin integration here, the screws that hold it all together. they, relatively speaking, perform the function of fixation. the first time further in 3-6 months. it's all growing together and it's a complete limb. and that's another story. well, probably the concept of expensive or not. everyone has their own today. we have reached the point where prostheses are printed here in belarus, if this is still in novosibirsk about now these two prostheses, which printed, by the way, we have companies in belarus in minsk that do this, and they are much cheaper.

well, in order to understand this, by the way, the artificial limbs of a dog from orsha, his name is hachiko, he almost lost all four of his paws, and she is just about to have an operation. he is now going through the preparatory stage for the operation. these two prostheses cost 4,000 belarusian rubles quite expensive. if you say that this is a stray dog. well, even for this stray dog, which is hachiko and the volunteers managed to collect such a sum of money quickly enough, and novosibirsk for comparison. well, how much does it cost? ah, about the same price. yes , if 2 years ago i said that it was much cheaper. that is, there are still sanctions for the rest of the titanium. and this is a powder, which is also purchased, and unfortunately, the cost has increased significantly, and prostheses for cats are cheaper. they are smaller . they are simpler in design. it’s easier to plan, they are a little cheaper there , about 500 rubles. if we are talking about the hind paw for a cat, it is about the same stands, the next unique operation. uh,

the cat has already been performed uh, while uh, the operation was done immediately restoring prostheses on two paws at the same time. how was the operation. how is this patient feeling now? yes , this operation was unique in that we had a patient without two front paws at once. it's not the rear. it is much more difficult, they are uneven, so are the lower legs. they are twisted. they have their own anatomical features and the difficulty is that the bones there are very thin there, about three millimeters, the thickness of the bones and err. there it means making it worse. i am pleased to note that this operation has already taken place for the patient. well , relatively speaking, as some kind of master class. we shared our experience, and those developments that we already had, we invited ours. doctors from minsk from grodno and with joint efforts, i would say several clinics performed this operation and also observed the recovery period of rehabilitation, this cat is called

paw. we decided that perhaps it would be better to call it that way. yeah well i have them all now i call cyborgs loving, because for the amount of titanium that they have, the first time your photo saw it was with paws. she made you famous in all the photographs. you were with me when there is a feeling that we are telling each other. what are we going to do, yes, and who has more amazement is incomprehensible, yes, he is listening to you, then you should have said. sign the consent to the operation. well, yes. and tell pavel that's how they transport operations. here's a prosthesis trying to win. yes , it is very difficult to treat animals in this regard. well, by the way, regarding the perception of relatively speaking alien, but the object on the paw, they perceive absolutely. well, they don’t have any fantasies in their heads that i have some kind of strange paw, something needs to be done with it. no, there is absolutely no such thing. they wake up and come out of anesthesia. and so,

with regards to the paws, she immediately went to eat, she says, the guys are fine with her. the paw is good for me to stand more comfortably. i enjoy the operation. she immediately ate, leaning on her paws, so we have some kind of stereotypes that, they are probably uncomfortable. i don’t feel fundamentally for them that it doesn’t hurt or cause discomfort, then everything suits them absolutely, therefore, as such , there is no addiction period as such. there is a healing period, postoperative on average. this is about two weeks, when the stitches heal, when painkillers are applied, and antibiotics and everything ran further this 3 years. you said you've already had the operation, like. well that's been asked this question, so in your patients already. okay, that's how they live at my house. yes, it's a hobby and a cat. alice well, you see, they run around feeling great. and not everyone notices that her paw is not the same, it’s a peach, the famous cat

peach, by the way, she has the first belarusian prosthesis. you are talking about how you know, how about animals that are in space, this is phil heroic. by the way, he was the first cat. that's right the lion king yes, if human, why? well, because he was the first, well, by the way, about what they do. they even lick their paws while grooming them. they scratch behind the ear with this prosthesis what they feel themselves fully, and this is the essence of all these techniques, and yet there are already 12 patients. we had the last cat. and someone else asked too. so how long did i start reading and we had a code, his name was carl and he says, so no, you will be coral-12. well, we have indicated the price, it is not small for these prostheses, but how actively citizens are involved, in general, in fundraising. it seems to me sometimes that for people

it is worse to collect lower for animals. well, i have such a feeling, because, and when an animal is in trouble, for some reason everything get into it. that's right no , no, well, maybe there is, but thank god i don’t encounter them, and everyone is ready to sympathize, everyone is ready to help, the financial part of the issue. i usually do not come across this, because my task is to cure the patient, regardless of, well, relatively speaking, how much it will be. here it will be free. this is quite expensive financial aspects. i don’t understand, but usually this volunteers were not involved in this, the problem was not once collected for hachiko. but as far as i remember, literally there in 3-4 weeks is enough a large amount of money and this was not a problem. well, in any case, any operation for an animal is all the same. stress, and what animal would you call the most heroic of my patients, the most heroic, probably, so here is kuzya, who was thrown into the fire,

which burned alive, who survived after all this. yes, he was badly hurt. about 70% of his body was damaged, unfortunately, his legs were burned, and we had to get prostheses for the front and rear hind legs. that was the story when you send the terms of reference to the guys who print prostheses. they send you prostheses in an envelope in a week, you sew on the paws and the cat kuzi ran. this is the cat rescue story. now he lives too. i also participate in rehabilitation, also participate in career guidance. and here is just a cute kind cat, which, despite what the man did to him, is very affectionate, very kind and very playful. yes, he can't run through the trees, because he doesn't have pads for his front paws either, yes, but nonetheless. this does not prevent him from living fully , serving himself and, in fact, being on positively enjoy life, do you

live in your house, right? and with you they can all fit, as if i were listening and here i have only a-a. kuzya hobbies alice princess and you, well, put specially to yourself after the operation of the animals. so that they spend a little time with your social ones, in fact. i am very interested in the postoperative period. well , in general, to observe how it all happens, because one thing from books is another thing in life, experience has given. ah, we don’t have a long-term one in belarus, only with conditional dirt from the nineteenth year, so uh, how do i the doctor is interested, in principle, the period of observation of the rehabilitation of the healing of their behavior, so for a while i take them myself. yes, and then further rebuild if they rebuild, because part of it is volunteer animals. that's why history. everyone is different, you thought you should start writing some kind of ph.d. thesis on this topic. and, to be honest, i didn’t think, it seems to me that if i start writing a dissertation

for the sake of a dissertation, then it will be some kind of strange story in order to share experience again, well, in practice, but on today it is very easy to share experience. well, it’s very simple, as it were, and here the dissertation is interested for him. basically, it's not needed. you can at least 10 of them. imagine, but if it’s not all from the heart, then, in principle, it’s not , so there are no such direct ideas of global places, they tried to lure some clinics to minsk there, so that more expensive ones would work here, they would perform the operator from the category of patriots where he was born there came in handy. yes, a fundamental difference. i see absolutely nothing, and it seems to me that i need to their small homeland to do what many , relatively speaking , cannot do in minsk and the distance and the city does not matter. many plans are there to make sure that we have

a good time. and when they tell me, they don't do that even in minsk. well, sometimes it's even nice to hear. yes, it is interesting. and you generally charge for the treatment of any patient. here is a cat, 70% burnt. that is, you feel in yourself the strength that you can save everyone? and sometimes we don't have a choice. that's when such a patient comes to you, but take responsibility and speak, my friend. there's nothing we can do to help you, and take the path of least resistance. well, i'm sorry, well, it's professional , it's not very right for me. and if you go like this , you probably need to somehow limit yourself already in the profession, so this is some kind of challenge , including professional ones. can you do this, and what else is needed in order to help him? well actually, veterinary medicine today does not stand still develops in steps and there are a lot of different methods that we don’t even think about and don’t know about, they exist and plus in animals 9 10. i don’t know

how many lives and sometimes they are far away, they don’t always use them up and even what we see visually very sad is not so catastrophic and heals perfectly, for example the mass and i see it every time, yes. that you should not draw conclusions ahead of time if the patient looks into his eyes and says, come on doctor. i want to live, help me, then you must shift all your efforts, even if it is contradicts all the canons, yet there are cases when an animal, terminally ill, how to explain to the owner. that's how you, with what words you tell the owner that nothing can be done here. unfortunately. this is the most disliked part of our work profession. yes, such cases do happen and it is most often incompatible life and diseases from the category of oncology about some serious injuries that are incompatible in life after an accident or a fall from a height. and it's always difficult because animals are part of the family. and it's doubly

it’s more difficult when a cat is somehow exactly 20 years old, grew up as a child. and these stories are very difficult or the stories of grandparents who speak. well, if he dies, then i'll follow. yes. and this burden of responsibility. well, here is a very complicated one, but here you need to face the truth, and we say it like it is to deceive. in this case, it’s not an option at all, because it will happen and we will just look completely bad and we have to accept reality. as it is, you need to prepare for this. the only thing is that it should be as humane as possible. they are like another euthanasia and you always need to enter into the position of the owners, because for him this is grief and to some extent you need to share it. but if, through your fault, suddenly , uh, the death of an animal occurred, yes, which is in your care, what would you do. well, this is a very difficult question.

uh, all doctors make mistakes and there is no doctor who has never made no mistake and there is an expression that every doctor has his own graveyard, and it really is, well, it sounds scary, but nevertheless, that's the way it is difficult, but here's analyzing this situation. i 'm trying to remember what mistakes i made. these are straight fatal, which led to death. hmm, it was like that at the beginning of my career. and it’s hard to admit to yourself that you didn’t think of something, missed something, considered something unimportant, but in fact your father was a fatal mistake, but in this case you just need to admit and say that, yes, it happened, and we all are not gods, and we also make mistakes and interaction with the owner in this case plays a very important role, so we are not machines, and neither are we

we're wrong. and our patients, not always. we are told all the information about the owners is often decorated not for the better, so the combination of all these factors can lead to an error, but it is important here that this is not human negligence. because i didn’t want to do something. not because i didn’t do an additional examination, because i didn’t think it was necessary, but just a mistake. when it was just a wrong decision, well, it's complicated, but we've also touched on the topic of, uh, the cost of, uh, treatment in veterinary clinics. eh, hmm our a colleague asked why treating an animal costs more than curing a child. this may have something to do with the fact that the main clinic is private to some extent. yes, quite complex voluminous questions, if you put it on the shelves, then education plays a key role, but in fact, a doctor who deals with small

pets, purse dogs. well, he learns this craft after university after the academy, because the base that is taught is a tank. unfortunately not enough in order to use well in modern methods skills for treatment ah, everything is changing, everything is changing very quickly and you need to keep up with this and you need to take additional training courses. all non-paid ones do not cost a lot of money , and in fact, in the aggregate, this all leads to the fact that since veterinary medicine is most often private, these are private clinics. it's all rent, it's all wages. well, that is, it’s not for me to tell you that everything costs money, so everyone in the compartment is used to the fact that the services themselves, if they are qualified if they are to some extent unique they also cost not so little as it would seem or as compared to free medicine in humans.

as for the state veterinary service, perhaps if it were a worthy competitor to the private veterinary service, the services would be cheaper, but, unfortunately, we are faced with the reality that its special service, and to some extent, cannot currently provide the entire spectrum veterinary services because it is limited to diagnostic therapeutic moments. this is , relatively speaking, by and large to work with this. you remember very seriously that it once sounded somewhere, that this was discussed, that is, we are talking about equipping clinics for children for adults there. yes, but i do not remember that the issue of equipping veterinary states was raised. well, this is a problem, but it now requires and requires a solution. it seems to me that, at the highest level , the problem in general is that not all private veterinary clinics do their job conscientiously. you know that sometimes just healthy, a cat can be

prescribed. the number of expensive analyzes from ultrasound there to some completely unnecessary manipulations. as a result, uh, well, this leads to the fact that people stop going to the clinic and already, well, roughly speaking, the problem, and it is the root of it in the fact that, in fact, again, the education of veterinary medicine today. no. e no diagnostic protocols. well, just like that designed. and to make sure the doctor understands. with these symptoms, with these symptoms, i have to do something, well, relatively speaking, i so i'm a doctor, i see it that way, that's what i want to do so it means business. well, there's a lot of error here. that's what we talked about, that you just didn't know, you didn't follow the protocol, you didn't follow the standard, but because you wanted to and prescribed what you didn't need. perhaps not implying that this is not necessary, so here you need to refine it. this is where education needs to be improved. it is necessary to introduce intensive courses that will allow

teachers to keep up with the times. they should too. they savage , relatively speaking, they don’t write manuals for anyone i want to offend, but nevertheless there are actions between private clinics and public ones. well, somehow it hasn't been created yet. here we are talking about the fact that in human clinics, well, let's call it that, uh, doctors work there during the day , roughly speaking, in a polyclinic, and in the evening in a private clinic, that is, well, no matter how you like it or not, the experience intersects with them. well, to some extent it is communication. eat. it's just that the goals of the state service are slightly different. they are more focused on prevention and well-being in terms of infectious diseases for different of a person, and it seems to me that treatment and diagnosis are given a little less importance there. although there is. uh, absolutely cool examples of cool city clinics in brest , it's just amazing. that's who does not know, that's all, they can adopt experience there, but it is urban, it is state.

well, nevertheless, this is a wonderful clinic that can afford endoscopic non-logical equipment and laboratories, that is, it is possible , if you understand that this is important and it seems to me that the role of the leader in the field is key if the leader understands what it is direction needs to be developed, then everything will work out. if according to the principle from eight to five, then it’s really difficult. clearly, let's break for a while, i remind you, we have a telegram channel. say don't be silent. subscribe ask questions and suggest guests we are in touch. on the air say it again, don't be silent. and today we have a unique veterinarian pavel zhulpan as our guest. pavel is no secret that sometimes the causes of injury in animals are cruelty to them by people. uh, let's see a fragment of one of the stories of our colleagues, uh, taken a few years ago. an incident

that stirred up the whole district in the village of kapustina 61-year-old man drowned his dog in a well, so that the accused, being intoxicated, went out onto the veranda. from where he saw, and supposedly a mongrel dog named matryoshka, and the soul of a chicken , this made him very angry. and as she showed at the hearing at the beginning of his. ah , there was a desire to take this dog to the track so that you would be hit by a car, but he changed his mind and decided to drown it in a well, according to law enforcement officers that day, a man was determined. at first he wanted to drown the dog in the neighbor's well, but his plan was prevented by a local resident, then he found another well, went up to open the lid and threw the unprotected animal into the water after the incident. residents decided to hang on a backpack. well, there are a lot of them on the internet. e plots on this topic did not specifically take any shots. where there is? here you are shown.

this is cruelty. where is it from in your opinion? do you have an explanation, where does such inhuman cruelty come from in people. to unfortunately. we see this very often and almost every day we encounter cruelty instead. eh, very often we see animals shot from pneumatic weapons, and literally with various injuries. yesterday. we operated on such a cat, which has two hind legs broken by measurements. it seems to me that the issue of cruelty is a matter of educating a person as a person, and this is the cornerstone of this problem, because no matter how good the law is, no matter how it provides for everything, but if a person does not mentally understand and there is no it is laid down that animals are our smaller brothers. and that they cannot be treated like this, then we will simply punish them by law, or maybe to some extent. wait, but

we are unlikely to educate, so cruelty is taken, most likely from a family from upbringing. or rather, its absence, in this case, and this needs to be worked very well in order for the situation to change. well, our society is ready to work on this, the situation has changed. it seems to me all the time the hearings of this law are postponed are transferred. i do not know what this is connected with, but the question is clearly dragged. i can't even understand why i share yours. i don't even know how to call this experience. i was last year's expert member of the working group on the responsible animal care bill and indeed . there are a lot of aspects that affect all spheres of human and animal life and a lot of contradictions in society itself. it is already ripe. it is ripe for

the fact that it should not be cruelty ready, but the legislative framework is still not quite up to this and there are a lot of contradictions at various points. and these examples, so that we understand that's what is there, maybe, well, to flow today. see. we discussed such a very important measure as the obligatory bonfire sterilization of stray animals or animals that do not have breeding value. and in fact, we met with people who are also of great importance under this bill, because well, how is it my kitty can't once at least give birth, well, you won’t believe it, but i just wanted to ask you this question, how to inspire people. here i have colleagues with higher education, with whom we have discussed all these issues a million times getting a cat. i will not castrate him. he must be

a man. well, what is it? well, here's what you need to work with. here you need to work hard in terms of propaganda, anything, well, you need to inform people. and that it’s impossible to say so relatively speaking, this law whistles to a minimum, so if it’s so direct, it’s enough to remove everything that is not necessary, it’s enough to accept, necessarily castration in 10 years there will be no homeless animals, because they simply will not be where to come from, because 80% are without surveillance animals. it's discarded, or the owner. died, the cat and the dogs were left on the street. yes, and further without control it turns out to multiply. in e. still, civil society has matured to be aware of this. for example, i know, uh, a whole area where volunteers do this by themselves, they castrate animals, but they still pass the laws accordingly. yes, the law is still very damp, but very we hope that it will be adopted soon.

and at least he will settle many aspects and it will become easier for law enforcers to do the work that they are doing now, but they don’t know how to do it, and it’s very difficult, because it ’s quite difficult to punish the same flayers, because a cat and a dog are, well, it equates to a thing. well , this is my property and it is quite difficult to prove the fact of ill-treatment. therefore, we need to work with it. no, not one such normal example. yes, when would this right be applied to punish lodges, because we we say that there are loopholes when it seems, as if well, it happened. here are the same stories with the karelians, yet they know her. i don't think there is such a person. well, somehow everything was not very revealing , it turned out to be soft enough for everyone to understand that it is impossible to do this, in no case should these patients be treated. i also took none and saw what state they were in and what followed, therefore. well, yes, but they must have been rendered

somehow by these karelian zhers, in my opinion, everything was quite mild and there were petitions for in order to tighten measures, but as far as i remember from recent stories, some of the animals were given back to karelian, in addition to helping animals, you help people too. e, in particular, launched a project for the rehabilitation of children with disabilities with the help of animals. uh, alexey nikolai supported you in this. how did this idea come about? this idea was thrown to us by life itself, e. the fact is that we are still engaged in career guidance and children from school often come to our clinic to get acquainted. what is a profession a veterinarian? how it all happens and seeing how they react to special animals on prosthetic cats and dogs. to be honest, i confess myself the first time i saw them in novosibirsk i was amazed. well, it's hard to convey this feeling when you see a cat on prostheses, and he looks

like such a person. what are you doing here? well, this is actually amazing. now i already relate to this. okay, kitty's paw was altered. but then and when you see, this is the first time it's captivating life threw this idea in the form, how they react. i thought ok. are they so, uh, inspiring ordinary healthy kids, the way they will motivate them to do some kind of work on themselves. people in a similar state, which is somehow limited physically. and that's when, in fact, this idea was born, plus. i had a patient princess, who was without a front paw, brought. her volunteers are also elephants. and for another two weeks i saw a cartoon gift. if anyone hasn’t watched, be sure to look, and this cartoon is the fundamental idea, in fact, what we we work with alexey talai, showing our special patients. especially to them kids. they just interact, they play, they

take pictures. they just have a good time, i think they look at their problem differently. they understand that well, if the cat is on a prosthesis. why, how can i somehow look at my problems in a different way and work on myself, start not blaming the whole world around, but go forward, go towards my goal , work on myself every day, then everything will work out. in general, such a story. how it is impossible to look at her without tears, it is always very touching, especially touching. it was when we met with the kids from donbass when the children were traumatized by the war and the animals that were also traumatized, in fact, because of a person, when they interact and the kids have a smile on their faces at that moment. it costs a lot. yes, maybe not for long, but still. this is a wonderful moment in socialization, as well as for a child. yes, and for the animal, too,

postoperative. yes it helps a lot continuation of this idea. eh, was. uh, such an idea to rebuild these seals with a prosthesis. well, relatively speaking, there are boarding schools, where children with disabilities live. this is such a son of the regiment. everyone will look after him, everyone will see him every day, that he is such a hero, it’s even for us to fix this too, so that we can use such a program at any time. that is, if a child is in a boarding school, he wants an animal, i think that with this there is no such decisive moment yet, you know, it depends on the leader, if such a social program will be written down somewhere, then on demand it will be possible in general, you still have one project, a young veterinarian. this is tell prepare the followers decided to take into their own hands the training of personnel, yes, in fact, yes, because with personnel the problem of personnel solves everything and i work as a leader.

when i realized that they were coming to you. eh , guys with a diploma, but without splashes in the eyes , without the desire to go forward to develop, and with the thought of how much i will earn and it would be desirable not to answer for anything. you you understand that these people were there, they just ended up in vain, they took someone's place. and well , you can always blame someone there. you didn’t teach the faith somewhere else, but i’m such a person that you want to change the world? get yourself started. so, already 2 years ago, i just started with myself, i decided that if i’m at my level , here’s a small clinic, i’ll just start looking for guys who are interested in this profession and who want to try, but they are still just studying at school and maybe they don’t disappointed and show it, but in life, not in pictures, not on some stereotypes, there is a white robe, or something else, but in life it's all different with us and it smells and blood and does not smell. sometimes very well. and this is all human pain

and suffering. and now, if such children like our profession, then what kind of specialists will they turn out to be, and therefore we have been developing this project for 2 years already and i would like to say a huge thank you that we found support from all those interested, we have a whole program, and in the department of education in lida the executive committee works where the chips are purposefully directed to us come. get to know this profession. well, it seems to me that it’s already right in the lida district so for sure, if you want to be a doctor , then first go to the clinic, if you like everything, then you are univer and we already have several guys who study at the university and kids who are in the tenth- eleventh grade is already operating helps. and prosthetics operations are also involved in them, so it seems to me that this experience should be adopted not only for our profession, but also for our specialty. but in principle, everything that this element is mentorship in the profession. you first look, and then, perhaps, you don’t need

to waste time in an unnecessary university to get an unnecessary education that is not useful to you. you will not work, as the veterinarians are allocated. well, in the opposition media they were surprised. oh we need to go into the cowshed. well, that is it is strange that people studied. so they turned out to be not ready for the fact that you need to find everything in a click or in a box , and they complain, well, that is, i have a reader of sympathy, but i have no sympathy for these people. they you could choose. yes of course, so this project is aimed at choosing what is needed and i, to be honest, when yes, when they say so , how much you have prepared, we are not for quantity. we are for quality, if at least a couple of people make their choice there, correctly and also we will understand a lot that this is not mine. this is an excellent result. well, you actually came from experience. how did you get this calling? ah. after all, you, too, were assigned to work

on a hay farm. yes, there was such an experience, and i will probably call it positive, because, in the moment when i went to distribution, such a straight brave guy, well, now we will raise our homeland. e, i ended up in conditions where well , again, i don’t want to offend anyone, but by and large a doctor at work. to some extent, this is a technologist who must clearly control all processes and prevent the disease as much as possible, that is, engage in treatment, when you have livestock, there are a certain number of thousands of this kind of monkey work. well, you need to do everything to ensure that this disease does not happen proper feeding parallel care, the content and preventive treatments of the vaccine and all sorts of additives and everything else, that is, from the point of view of medical work, as a doctor, when you want to think clinically to unravel some kind of diagnosis to treat. well, as for me it’s not quite, then, therefore, uh, it didn’t work out for me in

production. yes, technical points, literature. the third thing is that those heads have. well, in general, something is there, yes, therefore, creative hmm, not creativity. yes, such a technical one and we need to do it there from eight to five. here there are a thousand injections, well, in some time it's nice to do, then you realize that you want something more, but on a scale. huge production, any changes, even the slightest, they can somehow affect badly. therefore, from the point of view of healing, as a direct approach to treatment, there is no such thing, so i had to. well, let's say so. i wanted something different. yes, and you saved the service in the army. yes, yes, but to some extent, yes, yes, now we will take a short break, after a short pause we will return to this studio again, for now subscribe to our telegram channel. he that's what it's called. say don't be silent all our releases. search on the youtube channel, belarus alone and on the website of the bell tv and radio company.

on the air again, say, don't be silent, and we have a veterinarian pavel zhulpa pavel visiting us, but you are also, uh, a father of many children, not only, as it were, the owner of animals, how many kids you have three so young, how old are you 35 and already three kids. and you probably attract them too. yes? what kind of work, but how without it you need to show by your own example? what is good, what is bad, and it seems to me that this is the only way bring up. you can say a lot, but do nothing. and you can not say much, but just show by example. how to treat right as wrong. here , if examples, when we saved the bambi deer together. this is a story, in my opinion , two years ago, when the kids were smaller and there were fewer of them. yes? in general

, we had a story when a deer. he got under a combine, and he broke his leg, we operated on him in the clinic, but it so happened that no one stayed at the clinic overnight. i understood that i could not leave him alone after the operation. i took him home and we're with this fawn all night with the kids. they saw the whole story, and then they watched the recovery of this bambi. so, only with such examples, it is possible to bring up real patriots, in principle, they released their country in nature. yes, the deer grew up, which, in fact, i investigated, well , practically yes, practically, when i last saw it, i think it was 35 kg, and from three kilograms to 35 and beyond it. as far as i know, his story was released to a boarding house for uh people, uh, who are only forested area, and he actually

spends time there, free enough for him, nature and thus. with his presence of people, he ate super handy, everything was there, they fed him, everyone loved marshmallows, in my opinion, and the volunteer told lard he ate. well, to understand the deer. yes, it was such a super manual animal, but it's normal for him. it is considered, but the main thing is that he is surrounded by love and care. and we happened to treat different animals and exotic ones, including those from the most memorable and close to me. spirit. these are storks, after treatment, which i had a third child, a daughter, for which i am very grateful to the aist and now i know for sure that storks do not throw words into the wind. well , a couple of years ago you talked about your plans to create a rehabilitation center for animals in lida. at what stage is

the implementation of plans now? - this is good for today. eh? we are approaching to create a rehabilitation center. animal rescue center has already been established as the next stage. we are just waiting for the passage of the law for to ensure that all our actions are, well , as much as possible laws and, in principle, coincide with what is written in the law. this will be a point for the temporary keeping of animals, which will, in fact, perform a function. and when an animal on the street gets not and to ichthonasia, but to the detention center and there, veterinary care is provided and further restructuring, if they need rehabilitation. this will be the next stage, where rehabilitation can be different from physical to psychological, including here we are planning quite actively to plug. well, my old dream is that animals help people, and here are options

for both haste and long-term therapy. i think they will be very. well, we are working together in this direction right now, so the first stage is set. i hope that in the near future this will all happen according to your observations. somehow it became less cruel. well, over the past 10 years or more, there has been some benefit from the fact that we talk about it all the time , whether we talk about it or not. there is definitely a benefit. now it's just enough is announced. well, here, someone did something, filmed on the phone. it is instantly online and everyone understands that this happened before, too , it was just that no one really knew about it, and you know, to some extent, this publicity is holding back many. it seems to me that this is this cruelty, because it’s bad that people are afraid , so that they know that it’s impossible to do this, but nevertheless, there is a deterrent, so cruelty has become less sympathy and

mercy has become more and your numbers. there these examples when people so quickly find an operation. very confirmation, yes. and what advice would you give to those people who are just about to get pets. i would give them advice that you need to study the breed that you want to acquire and buy or take. this is very important, because sometimes people get animals without thinking , but some possible problems, some diagnoses that this patient will have a priori, because now there are many different breeds that already have a bunch of diagnoses. and now, if you bought yourself there, i do not want to offend owners of yorkshire terriers, but there are a lot of diagnoses, starting from the head, ending with the tail and hind legs. you must understand that you must be ready to solve these problems, or else these british scottish cats, everyone must understand that they can suffer from genetic diseases of chondrodysplasia. and it won't heal. and

getting a cat. you must give you an account that you can see all your life that the animal is suffering and it hurts to walk. therefore , if from the tips, then you definitely need to familiarize yourself with the breed that you get weighed and all the pros and cons. and it’s better to take a mestizo volunteer who practically doesn’t get sick, who will be a thousand times more devoted and you will do a good deed and be happy. and i would like to draw your attention. what is absolutely true, it says that people do not understand who they take for themselves, well, i will add about british cats. and these are not pillows, like many. these are very friendly cats, so it's better to really take the shelter or the veterinarians there now. by the way, i don't know if it's yours. uh, idea or well somehow everything in common is already such that the veterinarians themselves attach, very often

animals. you, too, probably, yes, we just have to do it. in fact. we often do this because, well, because they stay with us and we need to save them somehow, and we take them for ourselves. but when we already understand, everything is enough, otherwise the work will be at home then, well, we attach, of course. well, because we all sympathize, empathize and understand that, well, this should be done by the spouse. yours too. well, as if he shares these aspirations of yours and had to be divided by the number of animals you see sometimes. she's right like that. well , listen, maybe that's enough, but when he sees the princess dog, who lives with us without a front paw, which also participates in all our projects. eh, it was with my wife that he saw, he says, we take everything. i say you think about it, without a paw there can be nuances. well, just no, let's take it. i'm ready for everything. so yes it does. we have already talked about such not very pleasant moments. uh, in the practice of a veterinarian. but there is, probably, the most peak there. well,

moments when you are really happy. that's what it's like when your patient gets well. for a doctor, there is nothing more important and and better than some kind of gratitude, as you see, the patient who did not walk, he went, who limped, he does not limp, and who did not eat for a week, he began to eat. well, that's the most important thing, and the worst thing is when they don't get well, how you do everything you could do and they don't get well. here are two such big, but nevertheless such a swing. yes, what a fate, but i knew very well that i needed to prepare myself restrain and not cry, but paul is somehow calm with you. i don’t know how, in the presence of a doctor, you always believe that healing will come anyway and society, including we will hope that with your help these issues of the problem that we discussed today will be resolved as soon as possible and finally this law, which in general a very long time waiting to be adopted. thank you and good luck. here tatyana shcherbina

victoria got to say goodbye to you today. goodbye. goodbye. and now pavel zhulfa says, dear viewers, animals need to treat responsibly. to prevent cruelty look after your friends and love our little brothers love will save the world what was the earthly path of the saints in christianity here he found his earthly love here he

left for us an eternal memory of his prayers and of his invisible intercession and intercession before god what is the basis of the spiritual life of a person of completely different people is that very positive wonderful result that these conversations give, when people are not only interested in spiritual life, like what well. but the main thing is that they do not unite, that they form, as it were, one team, just as a believing person learns to live with god in a person’s heart.

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