[000:00:00;00] on that day, the man was determined to drown the dog in the well of islam law enforcement officers. at first he wanted to drown the dog in a neighboring well, but his plans were prevented by a local resident, then he found another well, approached opened the lid and threw the defenseless animal into the water after the incident. the residents decided to put a padlock on the hatch. well, in general , there are a lot of uh hmm stories on the internet on this topic. we didn't take it on purpose. uh, some shots where there is. here you are shown. this is cruelty. where is it from in your opinion? do you have an explanation, where does it come from in people? inhuman cruelty appears. unfortunately, we see this very often and almost every day. we face violence. and very often, apparently, shot animals from pneumatic weapons, and literally with various injuries. yesterday. we operated on such a cat , which was broken by bullet wounds and hind legs. it seems to me that the question of cruelty is

a question of educating a person as a person. and this is the cornerstone of this problem, because no matter how good the law is, no matter how it provides for everything, but if a person mentally does not understand and it does not contain that animals are something, our smaller brothers. and that they can’t be treated like this, then we ’ll just punish by law, or to some extent, maybe warn, but it’s hardly education, so cruelty is taken, most likely from the family from education. or rather, its absence. in this case, and on this, you need to work very well in order for the situation to change. well, our society is ready to work on changing these situations. it seems to me all the time hearings of this law are adjourned before being worn. i do not know what this is connected with, but the question is clearly logical. i can't even understand

why? well, i share yours. i don't even know how to call this experience. i was last year's expert member of the working group on the responsible animal care bill and indeed . there are a lot of aspects that affect all spheres of human and animal life and a lot of contradictions in society itself. it is already ripe. it is ripe for the fact that it should not be ready for cruelty, but the legislative framework is still not quite up to this and there are a lot of contradictions at various points. and these examples, so that we understand. that's what's there, maybe well, to flow today, look. we discussed such a very important measure as the obligatory bonfire sterilization of stray animals, or animals that do not have breeding value. and we actually met

people who are also in the degree of resistance to this bill, because well, how is it that my cat cannot give birth at least once, well, you won’t believe it, but i just wanted to ask you this question, how to inspire people. here i have colleagues with higher education, with whom we have discussed all these issues a million times getting a cat. i will not castrate him. he must be a man. well, what is it? well, here's what you need to work with. here we need to work hard in terms of propaganda, anything. well, we need to convey to people that it’s impossible, relatively speaking, this law whistles to a minimum. here, if so directly, remove everything unnecessary enough acceptance, mandatory castration in 10 years will not be homeless animals, because they simply will not be where to come from, because 80% are without surveillance animals. it's either discarded by the owner. died, the cat and the dogs were left on the street. yes, and further without

control it turns out to multiply. in e. still, civil society has matured to be aware of this. for example, i know, uh, a whole area where volunteers do this by themselves, they castrate animals, but they still pass the laws accordingly. yes the legislation is still very damp, but we hope that it will be adopted in the near future. and at least he will settle many aspects and it will become easier for law enforcers to do the work that they are doing now, but they don’t know how to do it, and it’s very difficult, because it ’s quite difficult to punish the same flayers, because a cat and a dog are, well , equates to a thing. well , this is my property and it is quite difficult to prove the fact of ill-treatment. therefore, we need to work with it. no, not one such normal example. yeah whenever it's right it was used to punish the same about what we are talking about, that there are loopholes, when

it seems , as it were. well, yes, and they were somehow punished by these karelian knackers, in my opinion, everything was more worthy of some of the animals back further to the core, in addition to the fact that you are helping. e animals, you and, uh, people help. e, in particular, launched a project for the rehabilitation of children with disabilities with the help of animals. eh, in this alexey supported you, this is barking. uh, how did this idea come about, this idea was thrown to us by life itself, uh, the fact is that we are still engaged in career guidance and children from school often come to our clinic to get acquainted. what is the profession of a veterinarian? how it all happens and sees how they react to special animals on cat dog prosthetics. to be honest, i confess myself the first time i saw them in novosibirsk i was amazed. well, it's hard to convey this feeling when you

see a cat on prostheses, and he walks like that kind of a person. what are you doing here? well, this is actually from amazing. now i already relate to this. ok, they decided the paw for kitty. well , then and when you see that for the first time it captivates you, life threw this idea in the form of how they react. i thought ok . are they so inspiring to ordinary healthy kids, the way they will motivate them to do some work on themselves. people in a similar state, which is somehow limited physically. and that's when, in fact, this idea was born, plus. i got patient princess, who was without a front paw, brought. her volunteers are also elephants. and for another two weeks i saw a cartoon gift. if anyone hasn’t watched it, be sure to check it out, and this cartoon is the fundamental idea, in fact, of what alexey talai and i do, showing our

special patients. especially to them kids. they just interact, they play, they take pictures. they just have a good time, i think they look at their problem differently. they understand that well, since the cat on a prosthesis. why, how can i somehow look at my problems in a different way and work on myself, start not blaming the whole world around, but go forward, go towards my goal , work on myself every day, then everything will work out. in general, such a story. how impossible it is to look at her without tears, it is always very touching, especially touching. it was when we met with the kids from the donbass when the children were traumatized by the war and the animals that were also traumatized, in fact, because of their human being, when they interact with the kids at that moment smile on your face. it costs a lot. yes, maybe not for long, but still. this is a wonderful moment in socialization, as

well as for a child. yes, and for the animal, too, postoperative. yes , the continuation of this and the idea helps. e was. uh, such an idea to rebuild these seals with the protest of the regiment. everyone will look after him, everyone will see him every day, that he is such a hero, it’s even for us to fix this too, so that we can use such a program at any time. that is, if there is a child in a boarding school, he wants animals. i think that 's it for now. there is no such permissive moment, you know, it depends on the leader , if such a social program is written somewhere, then at the first request it will be possible in general, and you still have one project, a young veterinarian. this is tell the cook, the followers decided to take it into their own hands in training, yes, in fact, yes, because the problem with personnel is personnel and solves everything and i work as a leader.

when i realized that they were coming to you. uh, guys with a diploma, but without splashes in their eyes , without the desire to go forward to develop, and with the thought of how much i will earn and it would be desirable not to answer for anything. you understand that these people are there, they just ended up in vain, they took someone's place. and well , you can always blame someone there. you didn't teach the faith anywhere else, but i'm such a person that if you want to change the world, start yourself. here i am already 2 years ago, but i started. it’s just that i decided myself that if i’m at my level, here’s a small clinic, i’ll just start looking for guys who need this an interesting profession and who want to try, but they are still just studying at school and maybe they will not be disappointed and show it, but in life it’s not in the pictures, not on some stereotypes, there are white coats, or something else in life. it's all different with us and it smells and blood and doesn't smell. sometimes very well.

and this is all human pain, suffering, and now , if such children like our profession, then what kind of specialists will they turn out to be, and therefore we have been developing this project for 2 years and i want to say thank you very much that we found support from all those interested, we have a whole program. e in the education department. uh, he works in the lida executive committee, where the chips, purposeful, come to us to get acquainted with this profession. well, it seems to me that it is already right in the lida district. so it definitely is. then first to the clinic as a doctor, if you like everything, then to the univer and we already have several guys who study at the university and kids who are already operating in the tenth or eleventh grade to help. and prosthetic surgery is also involved in them, so it seems to me that this experience should be adopted not only for our profession, specialty. but in principle , everything that this is an element of mentoring in the profession. you first look, and then , perhaps, there is no need to waste time in

an unnecessary university to receive an unnecessary education that is not useful to you, and you will not work, as veterinarians are assigned. well, in the positional media, they were surprised. oh we need to go into the cowshed. well, that is, it is strange that people did not need to study and turned out to be not ready for what is needed to find either in love or in a cowshed it is necessary and they complain. well, readers ask me for sympathy, but i have no sympathy for these people. they you had to choose. yes, of course, so this project is aimed at choosing what is needed, and i, frankly, when yes, when they say so , how much you have prepared, we are not for quantity. we are for quality, if at least a couple of people make their choice there, correctly and also we will understand a lot that this is not mine. this is an excellent result. well, you actually came from experience. how did you get this calling? ah. after all, you also managed to work on

a spin farm in terms of distribution. yes, there was such an experience, and i will probably call it positive, because, and at the moment when i went about the distribution, such a straight brave guy, well, now we will raise our homeland. e, i ended up in conditions where well , again, i don’t want to offend anyone, but by and large a doctor at work. to some extent, this is a technologist who must clearly control all processes and prevent the disease as much as possible. you to engage in treatment when you have a certain number of thousands of livestock there, this kind of monkey work. well, you need to do everything so that this disease does not happen, proper feeding, parallel care, maintenance and preventive treatments, vaccines and all sorts of additives and everything else, that is, from the point of view of medical work, as a doctor, when you want to think clinically to unravel some then treat the diagnosis. well, as for me, this is not quite, then, therefore, uh,

production did not work out for me. yes, technical points literature. the third thing is that those heads have. well, in general, something is technical there and you need it there from 8:00 to 5:00, do it, there are 1,000 injections, well, at some time it’s nice to do it, then you understand that you want something then more, and on the scale of a huge production, any changes, even the slightest , they can somehow affect badly, therefore , from the point of view of healing, as a direct approach. there is no such thing for treatment, so i had to. well, let's just say to go bodies of something else to be. yes, and you went to serve in the army. yes, well, to some extent, yes, yes, now we will survive for a while, after a short pause we will return to this studio again, for now subscribe to our telegram channel. that's what it's called. say don't be silent all our releases. look for

one on the youtube channel of belarus and on the website of the radio company squirrel. on the air say again, don't be silent, and our veterinarian pavel zhulpa pavel is visiting us well, you are also a father with many children, not only, as it were, the owner of animals, how many kids you have , three so young, how old are you 35 and already three kids . and you probably attract them too. yes? what a job, but how without should this be shown by example? what is good, what is bad, and it seems to me that this is the only way to educate. you can say a lot, but do nothing. and you can not say very much, but just with less and less it was. in general, we had a story when the deer got. uh, under the combine and he didn’t break his paw. we operated on him at the clinic, but it so happened that no one stayed overnight at the clinic. i understood that i could not leave him alone after the operation. i took him home. and we're up all night with it

deer with kids. they saw the whole story, and then they watched the recovery of this bomby. here and here only on such examples, it is possible to educate in real patriots, in principle, they released their country into nature. yes, the deer grew up, which, in fact, i studied to expect, well, practically yes, practically, when i last saw it, it was already, in my opinion , 35 kg, and from three kilograms to 35 and beyond it. as far as i know, his story was released to a boarding house for uh people, uh, who are in such a forested area, and he as a matter of fact, there uh, free enough for him nature spends time, and thereby pleases. e with his presence of people , and he ate super handy, they fed him anything they wanted, everyone loved marshmallows, in my opinion, and lard volunteer. he said he ate.

well, did you understand or her? yes, it was such a super manual animal. well, that's fine for him. you think it happened there, but the main thing is that he is surrounded by love and care. and we have had occasion to treat different animals and exotic ones, including the most probably memorable and close in spirit to me. this storks, after treatment, which i had a third child, a daughter, for which i am very grateful to storks and now i know for sure that storks do not throw words into the wind. well, a couple of years ago you talked about your plans to create a rehabilitation center for animals in lida. at what stage is the implementation of these plans now? - this is good for today. we're getting close to building a rehab center. animal rescue center has already been established as the next stage. we 're just waiting for the law to pass so you all

our actions were, well, as much as possible laws and, in principle, coincided with what is written in the law. this will be a point for the temporary keeping of animals, which will, in fact, perform a function. and when an animal broken off on the street will not end up for euthanasia, but in the detention center and there, it turns out, veterinary care and then an attachment, if they need rehabilitation. this will be the next stage, where rehabilitation can be different from physically to psychological, including here we are planning quite actively to plug. well, my old dream is that animals help people, and here are options for both haste and long-term therapy. i think it will match very well. we are currently working in this direction, so the first stage is necessary. i hope that in the near future it all happened, according to your observation somehow. cruelty has become, well,

over the past 10 years or more , there has been some benefit from the fact that we talk about it all the time, whether we talk about it or not. now it's just enough. everything is simply announced. well, here, someone did something, filmed on the phone. it is instantly online and everyone understands that this happened before, too, it was just that no one really knew about it, and you know , to some extent, this publicity is holding back many. it seems to me from this cruelty, because it is bad that people are afraid to find out, and not that it is impossible to do so. but nevertheless, the deterrent is present, so the cruelty has become less sympathy and mercy has become more and your numbers. there are these examples when people are so fast found for surgery. yes, and what advice would you give to those people who are just about to get a pet. i would give them advice that you need to study the breed that you want

to acquire and buy or take. this is very important, because sometimes people get animals without thinking, but some possible problems, some diagnoses that this patient will have a priori, because now there are many different breeds that already have a bunch of diagnoses. and now, if you bought yourself there, i don't want to offend the owners of yorkshire terriers, but there are a lot of diagnoses, starting from the head, ending with the tail and hind legs. you must understand that you must be ready to solve these problems, or these british scottish cats, everyone must understand that they can suffer from genetic diseases with chondro-dysplasia, and this will not be cured. and getting a cat. you must give you an account that you can see all your life that the animal is suffering and it hurts to walk. therefore, if from the soviets, then you definitely need to familiarize yourself with the breed that you acquire here and all for and

against, and it’s better to take a mestizo volunteer who practically doesn’t get sick, who