it remains only to make more symbolism in order to immediately distinguish each other and see it among the rest, we are also working on it. i think that we will make symbols that will reflect the meanings of our party, will really be attractive and noticeable and will well distinguish our members from others and public associations of political parties. i would like to add that there have already been questions regarding the symbolism since the start of the work of the organizing committee. and those discussions that took place within the framework of the committee show the interest of people in the sense that, in fact, that the symbol personified all these goals and objectives of our party. thank you very much for very interesting conversations. i hope that belarus will really become a support that can adequately lead the future in belarus.

thanks zhanna chernyavskaya, deputy of the house of representatives of the national assembly of the republic of belarus, and today we will talk about the past about the events of 1986, and the present and how we manage to overcome the consequences and restore the territory contaminated with radionuclides. hello

on the air program say, do not be silent in the studio victoria popova and tatyana shcherbina and today zhanna chernyavskaya is our guest good afternoon. good afternoon. well, zhanna nikolaevna, we’ll start with a difficult topic on april 26, 1986, one of the worst accidents in the history of nuclear energy happened, and we are talking, of course, about the chernobyl tragedy, and it is of genuine interest until now, all films, all publications on this topic invariably collect a huge number of views, but this topic has found you. tell me why you became deputy chairman of the standing committee of the house of representatives of the national assembly on ecology, nature use and the chernobyl disaster. well , it was obvious, because i am a native of the khodnik region and in april, april 26, 1986 . i was just finishing school, eighth grade, i was then.

14 years old and remember, in general, yes, it was then, on the one hand , completely incomprehensible, and but everything was shining beautifully, the sun was wonderful, the weather was preparing for the holidays, may 1 may 9 and we, in principle, here the teenagers all went to school, but literally in a few days. after 3 days, we learned that an accident had happened at the chernobyl station and trade was leaving. in general, they went to chernobyl there, they traded, but they sold some products. and now they come back and say that they were not allowed there because there was an accident. well, then, when the military equipment went, this is a helicopter and that's it. it is in large numbers. we have seen it all. and then, of course, uh, well, probably, schooling became scary, in general, it stopped. that yes, these 3 days there were no sensations at all no one until there were no connections, and

literally in a few days, only some work began , scientists came not only from minsk but also from st. petersburg leningrad and then we have already seen that something very serious has happened. well, the information went a little later, because yes, the soviet union was understandable from moscow uh, until then it came to us . so far, yes, it was all quite long and uh, considering that uh we were hit by radioactive iodine, which is a period. uh, it means, uh, it is short-lived, yes, a radionuclide for eight days, and in order to save uh, the youth of children and adolescents , it was necessary to give honey to uh children in the first days of uh. well, it so happened that they did not have time in this period of time, and many and my classmates were hit every

second. we had diseases there. in general, the thyroid gland. well, let's say it. this is how many have been operated on. many live today. uh, let's just say that some people supplement their lives with drugs that the thyroid gland does not produce, there are thousands of people. yes were forced, er, to move them. uh, forcibly relocated and so on. here you and your little sister continue in 1986. uh, and you're going to evacuate. you are in the vitebsk region a sister in minsk. how did you perceive what was happening then? oh , it's still been so many years when you think about it. the voice is always trembling. and well , i want to cry, because there were a lot of buses near the school. we are all pregnant women and children under 18 years of age. we were all put on these buses and our parents

stood around and uh, this big column all these buses. yes, although, again, i say the sun is shining around, it’s beautiful, the birds sing very warmly and now, when this whole column started moving and many people know how they say that we first saw how the men who followed these buses cry, and mothers too ours stayed there, so it was so incomprehensibly disturbing. and why are we being taken away. in general, because you can’t see or feel anything, you still can’t take things with you. and we practically took the smallest ones. yes, uh, because you couldn't. it's already those who resettled from the near areas, 10 kilometers thirty kilometers there in general, except for documents of money. in general, in fact, uh, it was forbidden to take it out and take it with you. well , they took us to gomel, we were separated by the kids and sent to the minsk region. and we, already an older adult, left for the vitebsk region, and until the end of the summer there were someone who

was taken away by their parents in order to hmm go to an educational institution with, uh, secondary special or professionally. well, in general, how does someone succeed in some health camps, pioneer or eh? we no. we were. uh, in the vitebsk region, the village of vymna is such a very beautiful place, by the way, there are lakes there. in general, the landscape is quite good. eh, there was a dormitory on the collective farm, and we actually lived there and worked on the collective farm a little. well, in general, this way. that's all summer. we spent there, helped supported. yes, yes, of course, supported. eh, parents began to come to us after some time already, when we settled there, let's say, well , at first, the locals, of course, were afraid of us. here uh guys, our da teenagers called u chernobyl hedgehogs were afraid of us that we were

for different people, that we would endure radiation. and, well , that is, such an initial acquaintance was, let's say so later. eh, it's been a while. they saw that we are the same do not glow at night no no. we have none when mentioned. cinema, of course, a lot of myths, how birds fall under the wheels there, you didn’t see anything, how people shine all this. no, of course, these are myths, and when our parents came, some, uh, came up and asked you for their hair. you not bald. well, that is, there were actually these myths, but we lived, uh, until the end of the summer and already people saw that nothing like this was happening to us. that is, in fact, already, uh, well, there i remember the pandemic. yes, it was the same, each new sick person seemed to be something like smoke, firstly, probably from ignorance, because it was really difficult right away, but to understand how to decide on the territory. what level

of pollution, that is, there were not even e dosimeters such as necessary and in such quantity at once, of course, it was difficult determine, well, then gradually, of course, that's all. well, you and your family have returned to their native places. yes, in august . uh, my parents took me away and i entered the gomel cooperative technical school , then we had such a benefit. chernobyl children. in general, there were some places allocated. well, in general, we handed over something, but of course, priority. well, this is the most common story. yes, how people return to their native places, despite what is happening. why do you think these, of course, stories in the zone are familiar to you, yes alienation in their village their houses their cattle. if she watched, yes, they are constantly told how dangerous it is and for health. that's considering the whole situation around. mm, that means 100 e 38,000 people were

evicted, but that means evacuated from the very first thirty-kilometer zone that was exposed. e, means serious radioactive contamination, well, first of all, of course, this is tse. strontium, but there was also plutonium. uh, 238 239 241 is the whole set. and he, in general, is just located, well, in the nearest territory, uh chernobyl station, uh, heavy isotopes - this is, in general, a half-life, they have a rather serious one, and today we already see, if for cesium, uh, let's say, the half-life is 30 years. yes, the period has passed, uh, it is already shrinking and uh, let's say the earth is freed under its own power. and in general , there is less trontium, but for plutonium , of course, the situation is more complicated there, because plutonium 239 has a half-life of 24,000 years and

, in fact, is in the 30-kilometer zone. there are places that are just very heavily polluted, it’s clear that people don’t go there are returning. this is the resettlement exclusion zone. only specialists who control the territory work there. in general, protecting both from fires and from, uh, getting poachers there, that is, in fact, such work is being done by people who have been evicted from these territories, and many have not left far. many came, for example, to khoiniki or to bragin or to norovlya, that is , from the countryside, they moved, but they still wanted to stay in their homeland . this is the main idea that everyone moving, and i know, many families in the koinik region, including those who left and then after some time , after five, after 10 years, they returned and, you know, they said the same thing, we didn’t take root there, there are other people. we are accustomed to a different treasure. we wanted to return

home. my ancestors are also buried there. well, how can you leave, that is, a lot have returned. and you know, uh. that's it with this topic on the return of people to e, which means their territory came to us. uh, many delegations from japan after fukushima after 2011. years in 2016 and flew out. actually, yes, yes, and they simply didn’t let these people go and asked why they returned? why did you come back, because they have questions of difficulty with this, and ours they say this is my homeland. how can i eat in japan, this was not such a question, that is, they were told to leave, they left and no one was going to return, but in japan the situation was a little different in japan there were questions about cesium, that is, in fact, one radius. yes, we have a whole set and understandable over time, and the situation, of course it's getting better. there. it’s clear that this pollution was not of the same format as

ours, and uh, the government, taking into account the situation of the tsunami entering the territory , rebuilt settlements. i have been to these places. everything down to the flowers of shops everything is rebuilt. well, that's it, people don't live empty there. it's so me. i was impressed then in 2016, and there are several such settlements, and now they came to us from the mayor of the city of fukushima. until to be precise, we have video as always the dignitaries came. here they are, and what they wanted to know to explain to zhanna nikolaevna in addition, why people didn’t leave, they wanted to learn from the experience of how the republic of belarus found itself in a difficult situation after the collapse of the soviet union and , in fact, face to face with such a complex problem and given that it was necessary to carry out a lot of work initially on the decontamination of settlements for the demolition of those

objects and those rural settlements that were too heavily polluted to evacuate people to build for for these people to build housing for these children , kindergartens for school children. that is, it was the maximum. well, huge volumes were , in my opinion, 22% of the first. here are state programs. 22% of the budget was precisely these issues, a very large amount of money. uh, and uh, here's our policy of state programs program-based method. e in order, firstly, not to leave these territories, to stop helping the people who stayed there did not want to leave. let's say my parents categorically. father said i won't go. i was born here. here my motherland. and although he himself is a builder and built e, and in the minsk region. here is malinovka and in the grodno region houses for migrants. and in principle he was offered in minsk c. grodno anywhere. in general, housing is going

to come to the family. he said no, and there were a lot of them. and that's when they arrived, and the minister was created. by the way, they have this there, and a new ministry for overcoming, but they have a slightly different system. uh, the state hmm took over, but, as it were, the next tasks for the elimination and consequences, and everything else fell on the prefectures, that is, fukushima prefecture had to decide for itself what to do with this issue. well, here they were shooting indiscriminately, the upper soil. here i will just tell you my experience. when we were driving there, and along the road there are huge black bags with this soil, and they asked the question, what do you think, what should we do with it? i say, well, we have, in general, the soil that is being removed. e, so he was moved to the territory that today, firstly, is already in exclusion in the department there there will be people, and these e and contaminated soil were actually buried there. well, not only left. well, that's it, but for

the time being they had this way, so they were very interested in how our programs work, how we deal with overcoming the consequences, how we work with the population. and that's just the topic that i went there with, how education and the sphere of culture help to restore, the khvoynichesky district. for us, their experience is zhanna nikolaevna. you went there, there was something useful, you brought from there. well, they're very, uh, technologically advanced. let's say. yes, they have different technologies and already at that time. they tried to farm in different interesting ways. here are just those topics. well, yes, there i recorded some moments for myself and then i arrived in the area. and, of course, she told me, well, that is, we can say that if it weren’t for this delay, but in time, when people were not informed and decisions were made for a long time, in principle, they worked, and then we, uh, optimally, yes, and considering that for the first time such, of course, here with

did not encounter this. yes and here we must pay tribute to the leaders. e of the gomel region, then gorokhovsky worked as chairman. there could have been an executive committee and in our territory the headquarters of the low district worked , decisions were made quickly and quickly. well, let's put it this way, they did not wait for the command to evacuate people, verkhovsky took it upon himself, as they say, this decision and began to take it out. it's literally very fast. well, the khoyniki directly took us out of the city already on may 7, that is , in fact, like this, well, then she went information somewhere on the fifth or sixth day. uh, they told my mother that her father was alone for sugar. come on to your girls. that is, it was already with a delay. it helped a little and there are questions. well, in general, there are questions. yes, in my county there are all the districts that, uh, three are very hard hit. in general, they are the most considered in the republic of belarus, these are bransky. oh, low area, yes and uh, actually hmm

well, we catch, there, partially rechitsa partially. well , here we are, uh, let's say today from uh, let's say so from the height of today's experience. yes, a is e, such a government approach. uh, a list of settlements that are reviewed every 5 years, that is, we are in the process of surveying the land. in general, everything that is on the territory, and everything is rechecked and this item from the list remains. eh, contaminated radionuclides, or already there the situation has changed a bit and it can be removed, but again, all strontium cesium is more nearby settlements that they are in the exclusion zone, when i came to the house of representatives, the question arose. which commission? i want to work for me of course, there wasn’t much choice at that time, because i immediately saw that there was a commission on ecology, nature management and the chernobyl disaster. and this topic. i know well how

the state program for the victims of the chernobyl disaster works today . the right decision was made at the time. but all the issues that arose in the territory contaminated with radionuclides are solved with the help of state programs to overcome the consequences. well, now it is already being implemented, the sixth state program and the fifth program of the union state, that is, it must be taken into account that not only, uh, our belarusian state programs are working in these territories, but also the union state helps to resolve these issues. and if you take today the sixth program, but it is about 20 billion dollars already in this period and today. this is 3%, e from the republican budget. here actually takes away programs. yes, right away, uh, there were costs that related, as i already said , to the construction of an evacuation. relocation of people construction, housing and other facilities.

then the question arose that it was necessary to establish social infrastructure and, in general, which means the livelihoods of the people who stayed there, and the question arose, but about personnel, because i left a lot and it was necessary. and the issues are being resolved, uh, that means personnel. therefore, in state programs there are topics, as far as decontamination is concerned, for example, conducting e-control in this territory. uh, agricultural direction plus uh for young cadres who come to secure them. uh, housing is being built, and besides this, certain payments, that is, in this way, gradually from program to program , such a scheme was built, in addition to this, of course, the social sphere. eh, very much. well, probably 50% of the budget of each program goes to

the social sector, because it's free food for children of recovery. after all, today is very important and e. in general, scientists from all over the world say that it is desirable, uh, those who live in these territories once a year for one month to leave somewhere in a clean territory. pure products, let's say, yes, well, if that’s the way it is, that’s why, among other things, these topics are laid down, of course , yes, yes, and in this sixth program, of course, a little bias has already been made on e, not overcoming the consequences, and development in the socio-economic yes development of the affected areas. that is, today the economy is already working more, because in the social sphere it seems to be, like everyone else, questions and improvement and putting things in order. and that's all we remember, uh, in rural settlements there was the construction of small towns, which are just very a cool solution, because everything was accumulated in the agro-town. and in general,

as a small town and people did not have to go anywhere, just today they were discussing the approaching may 9th. yes, it’s very novgorod here, and what we don’t see now are these signs that benefits are provided to victims of another disaster. it's now, uh, behind the scenes somehow everything is happening as it relates. there are also liquidators in the law on social protection of the population affected by the chernobyl disaster. there, in principle, it is from year to year. e stable. uh, all the support, everything, in general, everything that is supposed to be, let's say, and in terms of payments of the right yes, yes, yes, yes, uh, somewhere the liquidators receive, of course, there, an increased pension, for example, plus they are given the opportunity of a medical examination. well , a wider spectrum, in addition to this, it doesn’t go anywhere, and in our territories , annual medical examinations are always mandatory, because it was very important. especially at first , be sure to control. well, the people

who live there are already so used to it. and on the other hand, when we made changes to the constitution now, that money will be provided so that people throughout the republic can, uh, undergo a medical examination. and rightly so you want to say that for the residents of your areas. yes, it wasn't. already a novelty they happened, we all right? yes, yes, every year, distancing, of course, we will return for a while, i remind you, we have a telegram channel. say don't be silent. subscribe to ask questions. offer guests and in touch on the air again the program, say, do not be silent. and today we have visiting member of the house of representatives zhanna chernyavskaya zhanna nikolaevna, those who , uh, survived this accident in the immediate vicinity, forever had such an alarming feeling that this accident could happen at any moment. may repeat. e.

well, you share these fears of people, i guess. all those who live in the so-called chernobyl territories do not seem to think much about this topic today, because time has passed and a lot has changed. uh, in our life since that time, but on the other hand, we have learned what you need to know and be prepared for anything. and you know , once such a competition was held among schoolchildren. and so, hmm, such a small essay was written by a girl from a rural ordinary school, and she wrote that after chernobyl our life has changed and today, i would wish all the inhabitants of the planet, given that in every e, on every continent there are many nuclear power plants that you just need to know how uh the rules of the road. approached the road looked to the right, looked

left. and only then move on, that is, then, uh, this is a little bit, in principle, that laid the foundation, you just need to know, because today we have, uh, all over the planet , somewhere around 450 uh atomic e reactors on the whole planet is not so . uh, it’s exciting that at the end of march, the second power unit of the whites was put into operation at the minimum power level for the time being, but the heart of the reactor is already beating like journalists, you beautifully described it, uh, the construction of a new nuclear power plant on the island, how positively i’ll say this right away, because that given eh yes, you can do something afraid, but on the other hand for the republic of belarus - this is a very good project. and firstly, and we are working out. well , in fact, the month of september, probably, it will work at full capacity, and generated by electricity. it's somewhere. hmm. and it will

probably reduce the consumption of natural gas by a quarter. this time. saving public funds is also a decent issue, and the third nuclear energy humanity has not yet come up with anything better, more economical and environmentally friendly than nuclear energy. it does not depend on the climate. it does not depend on anything, as it is now the last time. there, the europeans took up the green economy too much, they tried both windmills and batteries and everything else. and no one thinks. uh, how to dispose of. uh, so yes, yes, and there are also batteries in windmills , eh, so when there is no wind, in order for the windmill not to fail, it consumes diesel fuel, of course, these are also emissions. and of course, and today we are talking about this, that humanity has not yet come up with anything and i always say all the guys in order for everything to it worked, it is necessary to observe discipline in

all matters, there is no difference, where do you work at the station in agriculture as a teacher or somewhere else, that is, fulfilling your duties. but talking, uh, with some employees of the nuclear power plant, by the way, some guys, here, who worked on our territory lived in the khoiny region. they work there now, and believe me, so much training, but this project is russian, by the way, russian rosatom yes , which built a nuclear power plant, this is, uh, the best safe plant in the whole world, because today america is no longer a-but competing, they don’t have such opportunities as today in the russian federation well, maybe south korea is still nearby, which is also building a nuclear power plant and they have great experience in the russian federation, too, because yes, in france in europe has the largest number of hmm uh, that means 58 nuclear units, in my opinion, and

in america 98, that is, today in russia 39. well, nevertheless, this. uh, in general, china is actively developing today , and not until the thirtieth year will they build more twenty one nuclear power plants. imagine how much it is and in fact this is the experience of the russian federation that they are now transferring and training our specialists. and uh, workers. they say, we clearly understand why we are there, and we know that our families live in ostrovtsy. by the way, yes. i uh know what everyone who lives very far from this distance is afraid of. those who work there live in the area, everyone is very happy that such a station, of course, this is development and jobs and development. we somehow with my collection. eh, so they were in the island. just we went there to see. in general, how the situation has changed. well, of course, there is a modern town. it's so much today step forward and well people, it's very important. we

have already answered all the questions. what happened in chernobyl, the human factor, right? well, the technology, of course, is what it was then or when this station was being built at chernobyl, and even today. uh, completely different approaches. our neighbors. e, literally the baltic states , if you take it, lithuania, e, they spoke very negatively about the construction of a belarusian nuclear power plant in the island, of course, i would answer that this is pure competition, because at one time they had to close the inolinsky requirement of the eu and today, of course, they are officially declaring that they will not purchase electricity and do not purchase it, nevertheless, through the latvian electricity exchange byelorussian is acquired and used today, deputies are considering a draft law on amendments to the law on environmental protection . and what caused these changes, the very

first and main thing, of course, is a change in the addition to the constitution of the republic of belarus they were introduced there, which means that the paragraph clearly states that a person has the right in the republic of belarus to a favorable environment. and in connection with these changes, of course, changes were also required in the basic law, of course, uh, regarding environmental protection. here , uh, covers a lot of topics. uh, firstly , this law, but was first developed. in the ninety-second year, 35 changes were made, various additions. eh, already. once he corresponded, let's say a new interpretation. its been changed time approaches have changed in matters of ecology, protection and the environment, so it was necessary, firstly. from changing the terms of the interpretation of understanding, because many

other questions or threats arise regarding the screens of the environment and it was necessary to change all this. and, of course, uh, protection. there is an opportunity for wider public participation clearly states that public organizations are natural persons. in general, they can or have the right and also in the law. these points are entered of what you said that public organizations can fit in. i was interested in this. uh, an example from one of the recent meetings. you just considered questions and appeals to the court with a demand. suspend how the activities of some individual entrepreneurs and enterprises create dangers of causing harm, yes, to the environment. are there really such vigilant citizens. i am interested in those who say this is a harmful production. suspend. you won't believe very much and you know quite a lot of literate conversions. he also comes to our parliament and our commission, and people are very attentive and

even without being, shall we say, an expert in this field. that last means the appeal was e man-lawyer. he works in a completely different direction, but he sees what e is. well, this is a complicated topic. and so he appeals that let's somehow solve this issue together, given that he also heard that the change in the amendment to the law, so this topic was discussed, among other things, that 's at the suggestion of this citizen, but, after all, we we're not just talking about damage. well it's real open, yes, which, in general, is really visible, yes, and a person can go to court, and in order to stop the activities of an organization there, but everything happens. uh, in different directions, and in order to give the opportunity, let's say, to influence and participate, including, here is civil society, yes, in these matters it is just in and the point that you just mentioned to me is that it is important to consider such cases . and in general , are enterprises closed, if suddenly

they just didn’t say that it is harmful? yes, with taking into account all these issues , amendments to the law on environmental protection reveal a whole spectrum of other laws. where changes are being made, including about e, that means regarding the courts regarding. yes, of course, of course, in your opinion, in general , belarus uses enough restraining measures so that you do not allow such a harmful impact on our ecology. well, yes, as we said . just a little earlier, that the legislative framework is enough for that, and more, probably, is not necessary if the penalties are enough serious in this regard and today they are used. hmm well, in general, it’s good in full, therefore, i think that there is no need to invent new laws. there are those that uh work. well, serious development is still underway. the specialist is working on the environmental code, that is, in order to reinforce all those amendments

to the addendum that are included here today and what is not included in the law, then it will be written in the environmental code. well, this is a very serious topic, given that we are like us. we say that today we need to work with waste. we need to work on other issues that are detrimental. uh, you are retiring to the polissya state radiation ecological reserve. and obviously some important government research by our scientists is taking place there. and which of them, uh, have interested you lately, what new things have you seen in this? well, maybe a little, i'll stop. uh, firstly, it should be noted that the reserve is a unique territory, there is no other unique place like this in the world, because that there were circumstances that happened in this territory? t cargo of human impact with nature with e. b. something in common with

everything that is there. and he said beneficially, yes, yes, in nature, well, man, er, in essence a serious destroyer. yes, and where a person comes there, of course, it is difficult by nature. eh, because we use technology, but now, on the territory of the reserve, a person has left such a situation that both animals and e flora are fully developing so rapidly, that is, nature always takes its toll and it is already possible today speak. here's ninety-three, uh , animals, reptiles. er, that means everyone. uh, that there are 60 red books on the territory of the republic of belarus specifically on the territory of the reserve, of course , yes irlan white-tailed and uh, the przewalski horse came on its own, that is, in fact, today there are already 300 up to rather large bison 16 heads were brought in in

a short period. there are probably more than 300 of them . so today we are talking about plants that have already been destroyed in this territory. uh, since a man lived, uh lady's slipper. here is such a belarusian plant yes, in fact, it has not been seen anywhere else. and now, as soon as people left today, there are already so many places where you can see it when it blooms. it's just interesting, so interesting, yes, that later trisit. yes, with little years. uh, everything is fully restored. but this is an example of how nature absorbs very quickly, of course, stone is restored. yes, self-regulation, and so i could no longer , let’s say, not tell, because the reserve is quite such a topic and serious and interesting today, and the team that works is more than 700 people. and they are doing very serious work to study how radionuclides affect

the living. samples of everything are taken, that is , they look where it accumulates. what radionucline? uh, wool, bones, meat, that is, such shootings are actually made in order to investigate the science at work. just non- stop. there has accumulated tremendous experience during this period. that's 30 years already. a. well , probably no one else has this, because today only our researchers. we are not but not only before the pandemic, they worked there, well, the whole world came, and there was a lot of study of everything practically, and the french, the americans and the swiss, in fact, all probably the countries that, uh, science were interested in seeing what was happening in these territories and taking this information , which has already been developed by us, that is, in fact. today we say that we are from the chernobyl tragedy. uh, protecting and overcoming it, too, the republic

of belarus, yes. this serious way has passed before the construction of its own nuclear power plant. that we know directly how it affects, how hard it was for people. yes, when we fell under that period. now, having studied this experience, we actually became experts. and here, uh, our representatives of the state nuclear supervision agency, who constantly and regularly go to magats. this is an international organization. yes, there is on the energy of the energy industry, and they carry it, so all, uh, reports step by step, all this is being done. that is, in fact , probably the only organization. here is the mt that remained out of politics, because they understand that this is the life and health of people. that is, in fact, they do not allow any questions there, because they are present there. yes, at least one international site remained to eat in it. i was surprised. i talked with just recently arrived from there, they drove that

today some requirements have been made. klinimate needs to be performed by the republic of belarus , that is, what has already been done. well, let's move on to the next step. that is, the whole technology there is quite serious. here and there, there was even , say, a provocation by ukrainian specialists. yes, but er, the head of the mgt stopped all this and divorced. uh, reports in several directions, so that ukrainians, russian belarusians do not meet in the same studio. you spoke about our experience accumulated and you participate in the meetings of the scientific and technical export council in the field of nuclear and radiation safety. and there, in particular, the question was raised. i read in your instagram by the way, very informative, and the creation of an electronic library portal on the chernobyl theme. has such a portal been created? yes, this portal is created such a mobile structure, which today already, but you can find, uh, a large amount of information relating not only to the nuclear

energy of our atom. stations yes, well, uh, everything related to the chernobyl situation and that's a lot of what is already hmm and as they say, we have worked out and accumulated, yes, and today scientists continue to work, conduct research, because the half-life is passing. here's strontium for cesium, yes, well, we still have plutonium. and today, too , this needs to be studied. how do you affect the body? e plants and that's e library. it will just be, uh, here, that uh portal. probably to preserve and pass on to future generations, so that they know that electronic libraries do not burn, because there were different ones in the history of mankind. that's right, it happens. you tell us how the inhabitants of this region, as a person who is immersed in this topic, there are some preventive measures that people are always very interested in and our state programs, including including an information component, and the belarusian

russian center for information fights was created. it was called like that and at that time they were great, so they prepared so many methodological materials for the residents, if you keep your cow, what do you need to ensure that e-milk is safe? yes, this is the very first years, when there were such difficulties: a separator to process milk to make butter to make sour cream cheese, that is, in fact , simple recommendations for those people who live in this territory, then it means that they have already expanded a little, as in forestry, as in agriculture study was going plus. eh, for this period. uh, a network of e centers grew, where you could bring any product and measure it. well, this is the summit of the epidemiological service in the first place, then the branch ones appeared. and so are the labs . and by the way, i must say that the industry also started. that's what

needed to be stopped. the level of verification of raw materials for semi-finished products and finished products is the food industry, for example, i know the industry, because in khoiniki we have polesie cheeses, which are known to everyone. yes, the same parmesan here. uh, everything, it's being made. so then, at first, the topic was just how to set up work, and monitoring everything that is on this territory. and this is all done today. i know that, uh, we’ll say it more than once, uh , the delegation itself was present and many were interested in how it all happens , milk is brought in, the sample is taken directly from the machine, then it goes on. eh, let's say a semi-finished product is being prepared during the cooking process, a sample is taken and from each batch. it's so much there labs, which are, uh, really, really good level hmm today, that show that 60% today there is no issue,

strontium is found. well, you have to work with it. and in fact, here is the agriculture that is in these territories today, well, even in meat, for example, i don’t know, in fact, in the last 10 years, at least, that there was an excess of some kind. well, what i say in state programs is clearly spelled out how you need to be. let's say lead times. here it is necessary to go somewhere to another territory to stay, and it is clear that yes, vitamins are needed for general strengthening for immunity. yes, but on the other hand, of course, knowledge is needed. therefore, i say that we are already experts in this matter, those people who live in this territory. sometimes it’s even funny when we meet somewhere, i don’t want to offend anyone, they don’t say anything there. oh, listen , what else do you have there ? and let's take a little while. let's break after a short pause and return to this studio for now subscribe to our

telegram channel and on the website of a squirrel or radio company. on the air again, say, do not be silent, and we have a guest house deputy zhanna chernyavskaya you have a lot of progressive ideas recently. you said that the development of the sharing business in the country could improve the environmental situation. in what connection? well, you know , over a certain period, when , uh, you know, uh, how much waste we produce as a human being. and what's up with that? of course, you need to do something very correct and good ideas arise. well, probably in society, they appear by themselves. after all, look at young families. today they absolutely do not want to buy some expensive, but

short-lived household items. yes, even if it concerns, there the birth of a child took advantage, let's say, gave it away very actively today. uh, small and medium businesses. uh, it uses construction tools and various trailers , that is, they rent everything so much, that is, it is unprofitable to buy expensive goods becomes. look clearly, and we, all of humanity on the planet , produced 54 million tons of electrical waste last year. it's all here. we take electrical appliances, household computers, tablets, in general, phones. everything-everything. and experts predict that literally by 2025 this waste will be 74 million tons. forgive me where to put them. this time.

secondly, uh electrical appliances. they age quickly, let's say, and fail, because technology is so fast, and of course, we used it and immediately throw it all away, i must say. trying to get us used and thrown away, of course. so. today we are talking about the fact that you can use these and well, let's say it together, yes, and for example, use electrical appliances. you can rent tried to see knew and took another for example, yes, well, again, this is not for everyone. i will give an example in minsk , a store has recently opened. you know, yes, recycling of old things, that is, our belarusian designers have united. i think it's so fashionable - it's such a psychological agenda, of course, turned out to be. of course, that is why we come, because in all electrical appliances there are such substances that are very dangerous for our nature and the environment. and that's

cobalt, that's lead, uh, and lots of other things. and when they react, that is, naturally. it's such a small bomb. let's just say in directly in a specific e in a specific place. yes, and so, in order to avoid this, you probably need to think about such services, most likely. well, and, probably, a little bit to expand our industry or production into a different topic for schoolchildren. here tell me who ask mom to buy a new phone aside in this agenda. that is, well, it is necessary, probably, to introduce work, but here. eh why? we talk a lot today about uh, the circular economy. that's just today those manufacturers who produce a lot of all electrical appliances. they should , uh, take them away, so to speak, in order to reuse the resources that are there, the answer to your question. where will these millions of waste go? they need to

be recycled, of course, reducing. yes. we have in belarus, this is generally bad with separate waste. the fact is that the head of state was right to say just not so long ago that we need to change our views on life and our mentality. maybe, but because, after all, nature and earth. in general, it will not last long. and then we will only think about the fact that yes, why am i also dealing with various issues, but you have information about what, for example , cigarette filters, if you throw it on the ground. yes, it decomposes within 2-3 years. i don't take plastic because plastic is in general, a bomb, which is many, which means that the compositions never decompose at all. we still do not have such a clear transition in supermarkets to paper bags. this means that now there is a restoration of salmin from last year from january 1, which means that catering points are moving, because it is necessary first to produce, to provide in the right

amount. this is a difficult transitional period. we have, uh, sort of a waste management strategy. we have been dealing with the state sees this issue, including the issue of the circular economy. we say yes we have entered. today we have seven processing plants and in the near future we will build 16 more . that is, they themselves share there, of course i think. well, yes, the fact is that even if it turns out, what happens. we see that sometimes the machine loads this and that, and that, in fact, there are lines there. e. sort the acts in any case. well of course, we have technologies, uh, we need to implement all this. although in our enterprises. uh, there is such a system of energy-saving technology. i mean, it's all going. uh, reuse of the same water,

for example, this is in the food industry. that is, we have already connected all who are our compatriots. there they say that it’s just already at the level automatically for them how to brush your teeth like that, rubbish, yes, that is, but you need to understand where in general, consequently, the causal relationship of development, yes, it starts technologically own. eh, the realization that, well, in general, they took a shorter path in switzerland, and you clog up the flesh. well, these are colossal fines, colossal fines, but we have a socially oriented economy and state. eh means e. we are a little guided by a person, therefore, starting from kindergartens, schools to educate. see. let's say i'm in a store. yes, i take the goods, i say, i do not need a package. what a young salesman. tells me so he's free right back to what the president said, we need to change ours.

uh, think your own mentality and approaches to this issue, because in any case, life will force us, even if we don’t want and resist, if many don’t want it, well, that’s why everything is here, we just have everything ready for it, in order for such a circular economy to develop, of course, here, of course, we are progressively and consistently moving in this direction. and now, completely new production facilities have been created, which are just on this topic and work and processing the same here e. serum after all, before it was simply drained and dumped, this is colossal, it is generally harmful to the environment. now it is simply dried and sold for big money. and by the way, our serum is belarusian because a new technology has come. it is better in quality than european whey, and not only there are a lot of directions here, but plastic processing, for example, there is a private trader in the gomel region who just took it and he recycles small balls, they turn this plastic and use it for, uh,

curbs for some others things, that is repeated. uh, recycling use. this is important. i know yes our unique production. she you see zhanna nikolaevna how interesting it is with you, because you are a practitioner , you are a person who has felt everything, including. unfortunately, the soil, infected with their own hands, but went out of dignity. we are out of this situation and now it is clear why you are the deputy chairman of the standing committees of the national assembly on these issues. uh, we hope that this is not our last meeting and you will come and tell us what else we have in belarus that is unique for what worth paying attention to our viewers. and we tatyana shcherbina victoria popova say goodbye to you today. goodbye. goodbye. and now zhanna chernyavskaya is speaking. today we discussed many topics that concerned both the past, the present and the future , i want to wish you all excellent health, so that there will always be peace on our earth and be happy, because happy people always

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