tv [untitled] BELARUSTV April 20, 2023 1:05pm-1:55pm MSK
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yes, excellent people work, but if i live in conditional hours, and i need to put a boiler there. here is my entire network, which was built 30-40-50 years ago, it will withstand all this and such hours. as you understand, our country has 118, and this is where the strategic and tactical planning that takes place at the state level comes into play. there is a power plant. this just the power consumption of the population. what needs to be done is to talk about this last mile so that the population can use this electrical energy. you are absolutely right about the networks that were built in soviet times, but they were originally calculated, of course, and other electrical equipment in houses was not used for electric heating, and so on. but this does not mean that we will continue to use these old networks. to get up, as it were, we have built up
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enough systemic work, there is e 1,500 settlements of the republic of belarus are planned for the next five years in the coordinated actions of the ministry of energy, the region of the colonels , the lists of energy are defined, according to which we are moving to transfer these settlements to the needs of electric heating, what does this mean? we are investing money, we are investing resources to carry out the reconstruction of electrical networks so that in these settlements their words can disappear in the village, the capacities will be increased. correct absolutely correct, on the basis of what on the basis of there the number of population or it will be some kind of general standard. no, of course, we, uh, look at settlements. and if this settlement is not supplied with gas, if there are no other sources of energy in it, then it is most correct at the moment. this is the use of electrical energy. we need hot water heating, which we do we believe. the houses that have we
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accept the standard. how much power is needed for each house, based on this power , we design and build a new electrical network, or we reconstruct the old one in order to to provide all consumers with this electronics, artificially. well, i don’t know what to encourage to encourage belarusians to more actively switch to that’s it. uh, electrical uh, supply chain, whatever. tell me, now forgive the belarusians. it's all about you though. yes, over the past few years, the main car has lived a strange place you can’t cool it, but now we would very much like it to become the main people’s electric car, because well, i said tesla by name, yes, well , of course, that, probably, not all. we have a lot chinese brands appeared. yes, that's how to attract people to ensure that they switched to electric cars, because well, in the cities, it's
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ok to charge. well, they promise that they will now appear at the district centers. well, i would like to add to my colleague that indeed, when energy resources appear, then strategic tactical plans and their applications appear. and now we are already witnesses of the fact that if, for example, we did not have infrastructure for electric vehicles before, then now we have more than 600 filling stations throughout the republic and i would like to note that e most advantageous is that our country. well, let's say relatively small, so the distance. there are small, uh, good roads, and when energy resources were added to them, then for us. really. i think that, uh, uh, the transition and mass use of an electric car is, well, a fairly near future. eh, because all the necessary infrastructural things are already in place . cars, then, of course, this is
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not an easy task, uh, it is, well, there are a lot of technical issues that we have to decide in the salons they are. yes? uh, now we can say, well, here we go. which way did we bring the first electric cars, uh, 2 years ago, they are practically in operation. they have already e more than 2 years, e we gave service to this car, that is, further training. now, if, too, uh, it is necessary to prepare not only the energy infrastructure, but also the service infrastructure to train people. now we can say that in fact we are already close to this solution of this issue. well, uh, with regard to the fatherland of the car. uh, then together with the academy of sciences, united institute of mechanical engineering work. eh, the logic of movement is like that. we must learn to apply, then we must learn to localize. eh, such an electric car. well, then already organize the production of these
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electric vehicles, therefore, well, i think that here is the issue under discussion and the betrayal of sufficient or energy capacities - this is just there, that mover. but tell me, as a production worker. you know, when you talk, usually everyone says that the most expensive car is batteries. and for us, for example, the same buses from electric vehicles trucks. first of all, this is a battery, which we have not yet fully learned how to produce. is it true or not. well, yes, the main difference between an electric car and a traditional gasoline and diesel car is the battery, which, of course, is now more expensive. well, i think that here we have comrades who are more professional, in fact the battery is on the table. yes development. tell me, please, well, yes, that is, there are battery cells, i would say, that is, to understand what is in electric vehicles many people say the battery the most expensive. well, the most expensive, the most scarce, let's say, that is, in volumes, that
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is, demand always generates supply first. yes, that is, if for our country, everyone there says that there, well, conditionally there $ 200 per kilowatt-hour is cheap, then in china they say, it ’s already cheap there about $ 100 per kilowatt-hour. yes, we do not say, how much they say in latvia, lithuania and poland, you know, we are talking about us. yes, no i mean, just the cost of the cells themselves, yes, that is, and if earlier it was calculated there 500 now already. well, that is, the price of batteries is going down . wait a. well, it's time to start it's time to move slowly yes yes yes yes yes the parking charging station takes its place. and what do you have here? so, uh, our what's here, uh, is the electronics that controls this battery. yes, that is, while the cells, that is, yes , developments are underway in belarus, but you know how it differs from what is already working, for example. on the same tesla or jim. uh,
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well, this is nothing at all. yes, that is, there are cells on the tests. approximately this size. yes, but on geely it’s about like this, well, that is, they are half there, but they are not the form of the package, let’s say, from which, e . electronics is different here, that is, here electronics is our own development fully software-hardware algorithms. all my own uh-huh and why is it important that, firstly, as it develops. we too can develop, because if we bet something by buying, then we will sit on this game. well, they give us this is what we eat. it's yes, yes. here we can develop together with the whole world, as if, that is, if something was forbidden to us. selling some kind of microcircuit to buy. yes, we are moving on to another, because i understand that, probably, this question is more for them vasily, but still, do you represent the political history of taiwan? yes, there is a war going on, primarily for the production of microcircuits, of course, that is, many people do not really understand what
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is happening there in taiwan. well, the chinese did not share power with the chinese. but no, still americans are trying to translate the chip. we can offer something, or it's still one step behind the same chinese or american production, as long as it's a lag. yes, that is, we do not yet have microcircuits for this. yes, that is, let's say, but then again, but for work in the competence now at the level we can formulate our requirements. in addition, an integral to our chip designers, so that they create, because, well, if we were 5 years old, they would come and say, give us the requirements for the microcircuit. we would say, well, we don't know what's in there, yeah. that's what then turned out to be a snag with a belarusian electric car. that's how many years we tried there, only tried. at the beginning of this year, when the president was at this exhibition , they showed a layout, well, uh, they showed the development itself. test drive yet, as i understand it, as such was not? well, that is, again , i would not say that we showed the development of the
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electric vehicle that will be produced. no, this is a demo car. it hasn't even been painted in the show yet. he was prettier of course, yes, blue, yes, yes, that is, uh, this particular roadster. this is just a demonstration of competence that we can do something at the battlefield. well, the economy is turning on here , yes, that is, you ask me why there are again years in belarus and their own electric car appeared, that is, well, the first thing i will say is marketing question. yes, that is, uh, we have lived no, i helped alexander what's the matter? here, what is it? uh, of course, electric vehicles began, as it were, like a clean slate in the academy of sciences, and until there was a need. after all, we are not we can already say that the electric car is now in demand more than gasoline. yes, and uh, if we're talking about builds, for example, then our economic payback comes when we make at least 30,000 cars there.
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yes, well, i can say that with all the successes that are now in electric transport, while all types are used, well, four and a half thousand about five three and a half, even three and a half, yes, well, there are more of them in minsk judging by the green rooms, every street is, yes, it's not much. here. uh, so this is kind of a question. was out of demand and infrastructure. that is. well, as they say, yesterday was too late. actually, it was early yesterday. tomorrow will be late, so here is the main question. these scientific developments should be transferred to industrial production, and industrial production involves not only these components, but also the vehicle platform and the availability of documentation, so this is a complex issue that is now being resolved by the ministry of industry. uh, that is, together with the academy of sciences. well, i think that these successive steps and production workers and science will give us the result to see. if we say, when it is
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a completely domestic car, then i think that it will appear completely domestic. well, not until 3 years later. uh, but uh, if now we have given a new platform to the academy and, uh, today we say electric traction motors have been mastered and the control system has been mastered. uh, as far as i know, the academy of sciences is developing a battery, well, which is supposed to be, well , at a cost lower than uh. well, those that are produced in the world today, therefore, this sequential movement. but it, unfortunately, does not allow us to move quickly. besides, uh, i always talk about that. what's in our well, i used to think so that in the eyes of the layman a car. this is a glass steering wheel, yes, but in general this is a software and hardware complex, because, moreover, it is controlled by a non-professional, and in dangerous conditions he must see a pedestrian
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cyclist. he must slow down and so on. in short, it takes time. well, the good thing is that the infrastructure has been created. e, with confidence allows you to say that the introduction of this type of transport will come earlier than, well, in other countries. we're talking about marketing here. yes, this is such a plush when you understand that you are being coaxed to tell you, how good, how bad. and you always have to, in theory, as people responsible for the environment for nature for everything. the rest is to warn us, especially when certain technological units are created. now gennadbu alexandrovich called it all a hardware complex. yes, but we really connected nuclear power plants and ecology from the eighty-sixth year tightly to a certain moment. and at the beginning of the program i couldn't say that some changes had to be made to the mentality, because we
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were afraid. yes, this is actually a tragedy that caused some pain that needs to be endured. we understand that we need to move forward, but still, that we have ecology. yes, because even 5 years ago there was an explosion at chernobyl. there or release of energy. and everyone immediately starts to run around worrying. what will happen that now we have it. i probably need more from the fact that i will say thank you very much for this link. here is the eighty-sixth year and the chernobyl disaster. uh, because our country, uh, accepted this challenge of the chernobyl disaster. it was forced, but it accepted not only our country, but corrected itself with this challenge, including in terms of control and monitoring of the rational situation, both contaminated territories and clean territories of the republic of belarus, so today we can say with confidence that the current rational monitoring system in the radioactive contamination control country territories affected by the chernobyl
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disaster and that's it. this is a derivative of the chernobyl disaster, because before it there were a dozen observation points for radiation monitoring. forced. they have been enlarged. e according to environmental objects after chernobyl in this resettlement zone in the 30-kilometer resettlement zone there how is the situation again a well , you can’t pick mushrooms, though it’s undesirable to pick mushrooms. and you can’t even, especially, as you said in the resettlement zone, there are bans and you don’t have to go there, uh, but uh, after all, 37 years have passed. after the chernobyl disaster, not everyone knows these half-life zones, and not everyone knows some elements. they need their age, strontium, 28, of course, reduced the pollution of the territory by half, if earlier we said that 23% of the territory was affected, today our official reports give a report that this is 12 somewhere as much as five. do you know that a city in belarus in which, uh, the birth rate
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exceeds all cities by the total number of inhabitants is a city that is located in the very south. for fishing, bragin is these regions , regions in which there are a lot of migrants, who left there from very close territories. tell me, children are born there, it's not scary. you know what i'll say again. uh, i came to talk about the ration at the monitoring, but considering that for many years the republic of belarus has been in the chernobyl theme, it has done so much for the rehabilitation of the renaissance, it has implemented and is implementing so much further state programs, what are these territories? in a sense, it becomes attractive both for young people and for a-a to pronounce it, which, of course, may not be a completely correct comparison. but uh when uh there were some terrorist attacks before, but they said that the place where it happened. this is now the safest place,
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because there, but a bunch of special police services come and so on. yes, they are trying to protect people as much as possible, but it is clear that that is, the chernobyl nuclear power plant did not happen like that, also in the context of the fact that the attention that was paid to those territories that were affected, yes, but probably not paid to any of these so- called regions . it is clear that, uh, when belarus survived this tragedy, this blow, it was not only that it was difficult for us to decide on construction. and the new nuclear power plant is so, and probably only well, a fool could think that we would not pay due attention to the safety built there, forgotten, but at the same time ours. uh, the neighbors were especially worried, especially the lithuanians, for this white es. they still worry, they constantly have the feeling that you know they don’t work for it, the feeling that
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they see for themselves right there what is happening with the way they constantly write their own. uh, reporting articles and so on. but let's so that both for them and for e our viewers to explain the belarusian nuclear power plant. eh, how do you monitor the situation around her and all these speculations are stuffing, or maybe there were really some stories ah. this is how you control, so i have already begun to say that this system of rational monitoring is represented by 120 observation points throughout the country. i even took such a small card. it is, of course, decorative. i don't know how obvious it will be, but we see that we see, let 's say, the main foci. yeah finding it here, around the chernobyl station in the mogilev region, this is the territory of the population, including around two outbreaks. this is our station and risogi us. yes, where the ignalina nuclear power plant is located 9 km from the border with belarus and there is also
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nuclear waste disposal, approximately 9 km from the braslav lakes. so, you are very well informed. not a belarusian nuclear power plant we are already at the construction stage in accordance with our legislation. we must conduct monitoring. at all stages of the life of a nuclear facility, in the eighteenth year. we conducted an additional 10 observation points around the belarusian nuclear power plant and how many in total, a total of 120? here is the one i showed here, if we look throughout the country, and near the white one, and near the white one from 10 observation points - these are three. ah, surface water. everything is good there. tell me, simply, is everything good there, everything is fine there, and therefore we are very happy, because we measure a lot of parameters and total alpha activity. this is the activity of both celsius and strontium in water in the air, soil and e, we we note with satisfaction that the diet of the situation in the normelinsky reserve, which is located on the territory of lithuania, is also normal, because we also have
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observation points there and we have automatic systems in operation. dose rate measurements and sensors are installed every 10 minutes biohydromed in the rational monitoring service 7x24 receives dose rate data, and we are pleased to say that it is within 0.10 microsieverts, while the natural fund is up to chernobyl 0.2. in short , you can sleep peacefully, and you can for this everything is done by the country is done by all services andrey vladimirovich you are the leader hmm minsk really. yes, it's the journalists who scare the floor, damn it, and in the capital there is, i say, they say in the sauce. come on, in fact , this fact on the one hand is very public on the other hand. few. who is interested. well, the fact that a small nuclear power plant operates near minsk, which, in fact, is such a scientific experimental one, yes. why would she? strictly speaking was created why did she
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survive? this is the time when saying everything that concerned us. well, at least it was destroyed or forgotten, and what is the contribution exactly? your institute in the creation of the belarusian, well, firstly, the concepts are a little confused here, that is, the concept, and c is a nuclear power plant, which means, that is, the concept of nuclear installations, including those used for research purposes by a journalist, we would scare . you understand, yes, that's why we, uh, naturally operate research facilities that are used to conduct scientific research works, including the justification for the creation of promising nuclear power plants in the justification of the e-security of the belarusian. nuclear power plants in the basis of the safety of spent fuel management with radioactive waste, that is, a whole range of studies. uh. our institutes provide scientific support for the construction of the belarusian nuclear power plant, so here i am, as it were, continuing the thought. uh, the previous speaker i want to say that in fact here is the monitoring of the radiation situation. this is already the last frontier, which uh, as it were
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never it is desirable that safety is not achieved begins with the quality of the project with the quality of workmanship with the qualifications of personnel e with the correct operation of this dances and all these e, the so-called levels of deeply nervous protection they are the ones that ensure the safety of the nuclear power plant the project of our belarusian nuclear power plant is the most modern - this generation three plus it takes into account the lessons that were, let's say, learned after the chernobyl disaster and others. uh, let's say accidents at nuclear power plants, uh and the russian federation as technology provider. they really do have it now. uh, well, probably the best competencies in the world in this area. well, as a matter of fact. hmm. well, these are the things that you try to touch with your hands. here's what we said from well, from the future, uh, something that seemed to be unattainable. and now please, so i say, and who would a trolleybus without wires electric house is something else that you are developing there, or is it
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purely scientific industrial development. so, well, it is clear that promising ones are working, which are aimed at the distant future. well, for example, mobile. why does the power plant need it? by the way, uh, the head of the national academy of sciences gusakova said that yes, we will develop. and for what, uh, so this uh, let's say this installation. it is in great demand, we are in demand, perhaps not so much in belarus as, for example , in the russian federation, where there are large areas without a centralized power supply, that is, power supply. e gas fields oil fields. the president often talks about the fact that science, in in principle, it should move itself, including the production. the president's address spoke about this, yes. let's say that the production workers have not yet undertaken to do it. we have many areas of research
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in relation to energy. some of them actually. we've already found a use for it. e, for example, the development of our institute of energy on infrared emitters, that is, so that at a production site in winter, for example, not to heat the entire room, only to heat the targeted place of work of an employee of a certain worker. here, you can apply them. it is very economical very discontinuous development in germany to sell in the winter they have savings there, in addition, for example, here is our institute for heat and mass exchange. they worked with different people for a long time. actually thermal systems. e topics of mechanical systems. they have developments, including boilers, including electric boilers, and they gave them away to industrialists who are now replicating them. and now we are also developing our systems. uh, heating, well using. electricity since we are the topic today discussing. this is promising for uh. here, again, what i would like to absolutely publicly and somehow interestingly tell.
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yes, for example, i remember that a few years ago they built an electrode with an electrode in the loshitsa. he was well told about him by journalists that there was a supply, uh, with the help of electricity, water on electric stoves, they cook food, they heat it with electricity , then somehow the whole thing was forgotten. eventually. she counted minsk four electric houses. it's really like an option, when uh them uh, put into operation, they work plans there is, but for now it’s still either there’s no demand, because if you build , then they just don’t know how, or what, well, in general, the question of an electric house, so that the water supply is hot, to heat and, well, the heating of food was, uh, on electricity . this is precisely due to the fact that it now has additional capacity that we can use and, of course, it is advisable to introduce them where we do not already have the infrastructure to prepare central heating. uh, outside, major cities.
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it is clear that it is probably not possible to build in minsk probably very economical. well, why why throw away something that works so well for us. we need to use it prudently, so where we have this infrastructure. no, it is expedient to build such electric houses conditionally, let's call them electric houses. and there are at least three options for them. ah, erections. this is the easiest one. uh, with the so-called converters. that is, when heaters are simply placed in an apartment, and it heats the air, for example. yes, uh, then it's a boiler, for example, this is the whole house or a boiler in a particular apartment and each of these uh hmm projects, if their pros and cons, well, uh in short costs, the first option is the least with an envelope. yes, but from the point of view of the average term, so to speak. uh, the most economical is a house with a boiler for the whole house. that is, he heats water with electricity for the whole house, and then we distribute it through ordinary pipes, especially since the project. if, for example, a new microdistrict is being built somewhere near minsk where it is not needed. e conduct
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such, for example, heat central for heating prochestvo. yes, yes , you are probably mistaken when you say that, well, as it were it's like one house was built and that's it. this is in minsk, in my opinion, now there are four of this in the country much more. i, well, a little bit in numbers, as it were. yes, yes, consumption of electrical energy by the population. we need heating for hot water supply to increase fivefold in a year from ninety thousand million kilowatt hours, to almost half a billion. kilowatt hours, that is, this is a process that is running. and this is not a theory, this is not simple. well, like some pictures and four houses. we thought look just the meaning what if we stand next to each other, uh, i want an electrode and an ordinary house due to the fact that it seems to us that electricity is a lot, it is cheap, so that the electrode houses are, well , at least cheaper to maintain than usual, so it turns out already arif for electrical
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energy, which, e, is designed for just the same need hot water heating. it is just the same and calculated based on the fact that the costs of heating hot water are the same as for heating in the central, why should i live in an electrodum if i have a significant level of comfort, this is what, because the level of electric heating control is much. eh, it’s more convenient and more efficient, if the second question is completely fine, again, as a representative of the ministry of energy , look, again, the president, as he said that we want our roads to be lit, like germany always has all autobahns, not enough the fact that exactly i still glow all day and night. if it is, in my opinion, we talked about some of us on the last program. well, it means that they are glowing and, in fact, where to put this electricity necessary. i understand that a nuclear power plant generates electricity somewhere. you have to put it where, if it doesn’t go anywhere, this is probably bad for s too quite right , a nuclear power plant, its peculiarity
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lies in the fact that it generates electricity constantly, and the industry does not work constantly. we work with you during the day, and at night we illuminate the street, respectively, we have electricity consumption for the hotel. today this issue is being addressed in two ways. first, electric boilers have been built in the energy system. in general, everything is possible in general, with a capacity of about 900. we, including mango farms. there are also already in the republic of belarus, and samples and they are already working completely stable in the brest region. probably, all e is consumed electrical energy. uh , spending electricity on lighting is also an option and can also be considered, but you need to understand how much it costs because it costs to build this network to build poles for the last mile, it is the most expensive. quite right. yes, and here you need to understand that you always need to look for the most optimal a solution for consuming this electrical energy is one of today's promising areas for power engineers and the task that we set, among other things, for
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the academy of sciences. these are just the same energy storage devices, here, uh, what about. we talked today as soon as the price of drives drops. there below uh, critical values. it is proposed that large accumulators already cities will be built completely. it is already today that there are such gigafarics that accumulate this electrical energy in high capacities and allow it to be stored at night during the day to give it away in the republic of belarus in the republic of belarus there are already samples. where is such a mechanic. used by napoleon orda in minsk , a filling station was built , an electric filling station, on which such a project was implemented , there is an industrial storage device that consumes electricity at night and actually gives it away during the day. yes, nikolay, what do you have, what science will say in this case. well, you can confirm that indeed. we are still , uh, very often uh, getting used to which technologies. here i will give you an example of
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the use of electricity. soon everyone will turn off the heating. yes. uh, respectively, already in the residential sector. then time will pass and the heating systems will be tested. so they will go for repairs and it will be so pleasant in quotation marks. uh, a couple of weeks sometime. well, kinda used to it. we have always, including myself, for example, have an electric bolider, which is turned on and used for this time. yes, this time we lived. enough and especially in other regions somewhere. oh, winter, you didn't pay attention. how many costs for the same cleaning of icicles per building and so on, but there is such a technology to make heating not yes, not the entire roof, but locally those who heat the roads. for example, i saw in azerbaijan. they build, uh, concrete blocks in german technology, and they just lay it down after a certain amount of time. ah, meters. yes , they will just start building them right away. and we
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talked about this last year, very important areas, for example, exiting the subway somewhere where a lot of people move around , you can do it when you speak. all this is possible. to do it when it's cheap, i agree, therefore, in this case, it is precisely we are talking about the fact that you must always take into account tariffs in order to interest people, well, you need to use it where there is an opportunity, for example, well, it ’s true, until that time they turned off little in automatic yes, look , we are talking here, we are talking very very smart scientific terms, yes, but we have identified one word cheap anyway, how to do it cheap? look, science invents production , orders it, produces and organizes, and then economists come to bookkeeping and calculate such gifts are expensive. so the fact is that we even teach students that there is a technological efficiency to distinguish and it is economically possible to create that's what
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you are talking about, that's all, it is technically technological, but when you calculate an unprofitable investment, this state invests here, and on west private trader and for the private trader. he looked and said, no, it's just not profitable. therefore, it is necessary to ensure that investments in this technology become profitable. let's then say this simple example with roads and lighting. yes, we'll figure it out with you. it's clear that for a while. our main highways have been rebuilt. yes, they were built according to certain technologies, starting from the roadway, ending with lighting masts with holy masts. yes, now is the time to reconstruct these roads. well, some of them we have a whole program. yes, and accordingly, not only does this concern the roadway, but also the same lighting of the same gas stations that are located on opposite sides of the road. but how did i understand from your words, what else to do? unprofitable not a thief. let's say it's expensive, yes, it turns out that
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now we'll rebuild everything again , redo it in our old way, quite digestible. eh, cheap, but not the way i wanted, not the way i would like it, but the chance to change it, roughly speaking, will be there in a certain number of years, when the road comes again in a year, the average layman arises, then we need the second question really the second one. and if in order for it all to be. and what do you think, uh, many people think that the president was joking when he said that i would have two more a for the spanish wars, because that he really does correctly calculate everything. everything is fine . electricity is needed, because today we are 80% energy dependent on gas. with the launch of this station, it means that more than 20 billion cubic meters of gas can be corrected every year. uh, this
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station for me is somewhere in the region of 5 billion. so calculate how much it replaced gas, and therefore, if two more it will be 15, but still from gas. we will depend. and when you say stop, but here you need decide, since we have state property, it is clear that this is our taxes. and if we are inefficient, there the heating of the road mast made it clear that this will fall on the shoulders of the state, but abroad, where such a form exists, how can public private partnership be done? toll this road, that is, if you want to ride on the warm, yes, yes, that is , maybe this way you can solve this issue. well, to make, for example, a toll road, well, with heating of the road itself from the backlight. well see what concerns transport and roads - this is not exactly the ministry of energy, where to get energy , i want to say that after all, the task is not just to consume electricity.
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well, since the task of her needs is logical, of course, so that she has a debt, so that there is actually some benefit , when it comes to integrating a nuclear power plant first, all these options, including the use of electricity for the necessary lighting on highways. they were all analyzed. an economic assessment was given, what will it give? how much to spend money and what will be the effect. uh, the thing is, if we start and light up, uh, these roads. you do not think that it will be some large amount of electrical energy, because if you illuminate them. you will most certainly not illuminate with incandescent bulbs, you will be highly efficient led lamps, even over the entire length it will be relative to the country, it will not be the same. and relatively even from the power plant , the costs will not be so high, but i will say such a seditious thing. well i'm like ordinary citizen, well, in general, all these calculations of yours are of little concern. i want to drive on the road that is lit up there. we have built in the country.
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so, as our man thinks, i should have electricity almost free of charge, and i should drive an electric car and so illumination should, uh, take off around the clock in public transport up to thirty percent should be electric in the twenty-fifth year. here is cheap electricity and free electricity. these are different things. yes, yes buy an electric car. put big headlights to sit illuminated, but when it’s good light , but the steam is going very far yes, i’ll definitely buy nikolai borisovich but what do you think about the construction, ah, the second even a nuclear power plant was here, as they say, the cost of electricity. we, uh, all forget that uh, respectively, both gas and oil that are extracted from a meter of the earth, it is not infinite and the cost of production increases is one thing, when , for example, gas or oil is also produced on earth, that is, on land, another thing goes to e, tens of hundreds of kilometers of sea to the ocean on
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the elves, and at the same time it becomes much more expensive. therefore, if you look at distant times, they always call the distant figure 1991, a thousand cucub, it cost 20 rubles. gaza. it's about, uh, 18. uh, it was dollars. yes, if we compare today, yes, the cost for our republic is very worthy. and here you are, probably a little story. which was in that year you saw. what was the cost of gas when it was approaching $4,000 per thousand. well, we have now learned that it is dark more expensive, the stronger the ruble knife, you know, for gas and so on. so, accordingly, since a nuclear power plant has, well, today, as i understand it, a three-year fuel cycle - this is a fuel plant once. let's say this is 3 years and
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3 years is enough, then we are moving away from dependence on gas, because the underground storage of gases that we have will provide a fairly limited amount of work for our entire economy. it must always be thought ahead. in addition, scientists must work to increase this cycle by four or more than a year and then it's understandable. excuse me, you roughly loaded the fuel. yes, and you have been working for several years now, i don’t think about what you need to conclude. new contracts for the supply of this fuel and so on. that is, today there is a large energy sector, as i will call 94% of electricity. uh, we have until the commissioning of the first block on november 3, 2020 - this is natural gas for us. and therefore, if you look, uh, geography, uh, fuel consumption of other states, we will see that we are the only ones, because everywhere even russia which supplies us with gas. there is a balance of such
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gas, somewhere around 55% of other types of fuel. that is, we sometimes get used to the good and forget that everything can be slowly second. and if needed, then the third, in addition, at the household level. you are probably, as specialists who, uh, are present here, that such situations often occur with us, somewhere e fell apart from improper operation of gas equipment, when we have electrical equipment, this does not happen. this is also open wiring. here you still need to see force majeure happens different with concealed wiring, it was previously allowed. uh, oblique wiring or not? and so on. today it is all gone, that is, on a trajectory. she already a must be turned vertically and so on. well, the electricians will probably tell you, but in any case. uh, this is also a factor that uh, well, must be taken into account, because we have just started talking already, and the second nuclear
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power plant. yes, you were engaged in scientific support of the first, as we said above, you are already looking at the option of scientific support, the second is the third. maybe there place somehow prism most. the main question is, where well, choosing a site is a separate big job. that's why it is natural that the operation on all the results that were obtained when choosing a site for the first station, what was not chosen for the first there will be the second. well, in a sense, maybe . so uh, if we already have two blocks in the western part of belarus, then the mogilev region. yes, that's already looking there, using the surveys that have already been carried out, a place more convenient in terms of, there and the safety of electricity generation. well, by a number of factors. that is, this is a complex work, it is being carried out by a large team of specialists. and in the end, it is still a decision, uh, the head of state, but this is understandably not a quick process. that
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is, even the questions are not a year or two. i think the decision itself or i am definitely wrong. that is here. well, even though some foreclosure studies have already been carried out , a certain period of observation will be required. there are also seismic, and so on and so forth, which will form the basis for the choice of one or another sites. that is, the most important thing here is to ensure the safety and economic efficiency of the future plant, so this issue is complex. it is very difficult. yeah , then this question is for our industry to rebuild. branches, because well, what happened with the island before the start of construction is that you have it turned into an island city. now these are different things, because the service sector entails trade and in general a lot a lot. yes, yes, a month in an island is more expensive than in minsk, because a lot of business travelers come. i'm big i don’t reveal the secret, in fact, the initial conclusion told me that we don’t need a strong ruble. here are the connections with this energy.
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look, smart people are trying to look. yes, the higher the cost of a barrel of oil, the more we really understand that we will have a stronger ruble, which will be stronger. this is bad. i will explain. why, because the cheaper our currency is, and the better they will buy our goods that we send for export. they are ceteris paribus. it will just be cheaper. and that's when i'm now moaning russian. the dust began to grow and comes. ai-ai-ai and so on. i will not touch on the reasons why it grows? but this means that they can increase export operations, what they sell abroad, in the same way, this does not mean for us that it should be completely cheap. yes, it is necessary to monitor, but nevertheless, if stable, yes, especially remember, the eleventh year, when they held e, it was already clear with us that the course was not won until september, somewhere from january to september of the eleventh year. then it's all the same
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refused to float trades there on september 16 occurred. eh why? because, well, it's very bad. when the currency is expensive, in the united states it is also unprofitable for them to have an expensive currency, because it is also possible to increase exports, you know, they want another friend. that's another show in another show, we'll talk about this about exports. eh, say it. well, our electricity is getting into lithuania technologically. are we connected with them by the flow of electrical energy between us or is yours, because i compared the website of the latvian energy systems, yes, or tov’s ones, so, uh, there is no official belarusian energy in lithuania, but there is in latvia, but at the same time, lithuanians buy electricity from latvia that is, it turns out our dirty energy still reaches vilnius, purely theoretically, i i understand that it is not necessary to make a statement. well, theoretically. so maybe, but look again. i am talking about the technological territories of commercial deliveries, at the moment
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there is no one from the republic of belarus to either lithuania or latvia. there are technological links between us and lithuania and these flows of physical electricity. it flows between us. but look again here the question is also exclusively production. this is the ring of electricity, which is the movement of electricity, which they tried to build in the baltic. yes, from poland, after all , when we built it in the soviet union. network well, in fact, this ring was called, yes, that is, it still exists right? and it was very good, so electricity was cheap, see if the ring is common to the far east right now you and i, uh, so the evening is deep, and in the far east in the morning they start working, they flow to each other. yes, at night, if somewhere they use it less, you can take it here in that direction, and moreover, uh, lithuanians somewhere, say, in the eighteenth year. they
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tried. they came to moscow. i was at a conference in st. petersburg. and so the story was told. they came to moscow to ask. let's experiment, what will happen if we disconnect, they are professionals in the energy industry, these are not the energy of other people's words they say, but they are afraid that there will be a collapse in general. eh? on this territory , because why connect to the swedish one, because in europe there is no such delusion, as many people here say that there was no high technology in the soviet union, that such a ring was created. it was also high technology, but the power engineers can correct me. i don't know . you are absolutely right, you say, yes, the energy system of the soviet union is one of the most reliable electricity in europe. they were built on other principles, there was no separate one. yes, global no, the situation is on zaporozhye there on power plants. yes, well, we all seem to be following, and at some time ago we were actively
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speculating on this. yes, informational occasions, and so on and so forth, that’s how important it is for us, in principle, to monitor so that everything is normal there from the point of view. even, to be honest, i don’t say that we didn’t fall out of this chain, but today there is no electric connection with ukraine of the republic of belarus, that is, we are electric letters. no, you say in this ring the letters y no, right? i mean, there were power lines. uh and you know that even last year they were involved in certain periods. uh, but at the moment all the lines are off and we are not physically connected to them. but of course, what happens at zaporozhye from the power plant is any reasonable person. he must say a banal word with his nose. yes, this case will be addressed to us, as it happened already. yes, for supplies. chernobyl was laid. the truth has been laid. well, everything is there for that, the russian energy system is always ready to help, for any countries, if anything, we have a mobile there
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to turn around and sing in time kirill can be added to develop more. the fact is that when the nuclear power plant was being built, it is clear that they said that there would be surpluses of electricity, so the question is bigger. so you said that you are going to build more, no matter how they swear as well. just like lithuania swears if you dared to build a saginase and they went to a japanese developer, but they did not find an investor, and therefore they are very offended. so what did we get, russia gave us a loan. and they don't have any further. in poland, engineers from zakinu visaginas are going to the island from work. well to do, because these engineers were from all over the soviet union; they are not lithuanians by nationality. well, i’ll tell you more, and in this e in poland, they now used to talk about one nuclear power plant in the north-west , if they are now, but the start of construction, you know, what year 2034 is even necessary in
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the third, they plan to launch one, which will begin to be built at 20:00, by the way, we can oppose their station, they want american technology. but cyril correctly said from the very beginning that we have technologies? well, that is, we have russia the best in france let me be corrected. i know that the french are very good at nuclear energy. both the russians and the americans very strongly say light for 30 seconds. i have 30 seconds of light. therefore, i will be brief and do not be afraid of the new, it is worth trying to figure it out and use it as efficiently as possible, in my opinion, we are on the right track. well, actually, they are really trying to deprive us of technology. we must understand that if you want to ride a tesla , it must be a nuclear power plant. well, if you want to use light should be an iphone, and several supports should be independent in electricity. well like this
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