tv [untitled] BELARUSTV April 20, 2023 7:55pm-9:01pm MSK
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the results of cooperation between belarus and st. petersburg are impressive. president alexander lukashenko said this at a meeting with the governor of st. petersburg. by alexander beglov, trade turnover increased by almost half a billion dollars and reached a record 2 billion 200 million. this year , the upward trend continues in 2022 belarusian enterprises ,
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st. purchase of electric buses and trams in st. petersburg a project for the development of container transportation is being implemented. through the port of bronco, another important direction is the program for the renovation of elevator equipment. in addition, the region has become one of the main conduits of belarusian food products in russia, plans more actively. develop and tourist routes the national bank in belarus is working on issues in the conduct of the digital ruble, as pavel kalaur, the head of the board of the national bank, said that the corresponding concept has already been approved. in developing a demo version of the platform for testing the currency, this phenomenon is given attention, many central banks of the world are studying the possibilities, assessing the potential, conducting pilot studies. the national bank of belarus is no exception; in fact, central banks are considering the digital ruble. central banking is like some new form of money. here we know everything that there is cash, we use
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non-cash money very actively. here is a digital ruble - this is closer to non-cash money. well, there is still an opportunity to perform certain functions. uh, directly to the personal day of nobody. that is, it can be used only online offline mode is of the greatest interest, the technology is of the greatest interest conducting cross-border payments , which is especially important in the context of sanctions, is it advisable to introduce a digital ruble in belarus to be determined by the end of the year, the decision will be made at the highest level part of the industrial output of the country - this is about 6% of gdp, almost every fourth product for export from residents of the ses belarus was one of the first to decide on the creation of such zones. the first one was launched in 1996. in brest , there are now six ccs operating in the country, these are more than 400 residents with capital from 35
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states at the spartak confectionery factory opened a new line for the production of bar chocolate. its capacity is one and a half tons, products per hour, the production site will provide the domestic market with products. it will also increase exports. cooperation with china and russia is gaining momentum , such areas as vietnam and turkey are being worked out to launch the line. the assortment of the enterprise due to the production of thin chocolate according to the new recipe , new import-substituting positions will also appear; what we transported today from europe was transported from other territories in full. we will replace it with our own product. moreover, i would like to say that this line will increase the overall capacity of our spartak enterprise by 20%. such projects. here in the republic of belarus , it is precisely the industries that open up the industry to all projects. now work is underway at our kommunarka enterprise, they are installing equipment that will process. cocoa beans in
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last year. the enterprise of the confectionery industry of the country produced over 30,000 tons of import-substituting products in the first quarter of 2023. the rate of simple production at the enterprise amounted to more than 130% belarusian youth took part in the dialogue between heaven and earth. this is the communication of the youth of the shanghai countries. and cooperation with the crew members of the sheinzhou-15 spacecraft dialogue in a hybrid format in beijing as well as in online conference rooms and classrooms, including in belarus russia india iran mongolia kazakhstan pakistan and other countries from the belarusian side to talk with the astronauts. schoolchildren, students , and young people joined in and were interested in what astronauts do in their free time. and what parameters need to be met in order to fulfill the cosmic dream? by the way , the natives of belarus have flown into space three times in minsk, an orthodox festival of joy has started in the spiritual and educational center ark of the holy elizabethan monastery . the holiday is dedicated to the resurrection of christ.
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this season, the main theme is music as the leitmotif. she will go through all events a ten-day program of meetings with spiritual and creative people master classes program for children of yermak pavilions products are presented by monasteries, temples and artisans from different countries for the first time in the fair , seraphim diveevo monastery takes part. representatives of the monastery brought to syria the relics of seraphim of sarov orthodox holiday will last until the end of april libraries of belarus on april 21 at 19:00 will open the doors of the bible night for children and adults prepared thematic areas. master classes games creative meetings with writers and others entertainment in minsk action will be supported by seven libraries. each venue will offer a unique training program assisted by volunteers. entrance to all events organizers. they promise free.
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that chernobyl is such an irresistible story that it is impossible to go any further, but let's be honest, we have to live with it. i once wrote an interview with a japanese scientist who said that the chernobyl disaster, in addition, that it is a disaster. this is also a big experiment, which is generally not clear how it will end, and if, in fact , this territory is conserved, do not touch it at all and always remember that there are dead people. well, yes, this is probably correct, and in fact, this is what we are doing. we have. yes, we also have people who survived this catastrophe and, in fact, there is a whole microdistrict that helped to evacuate people, minsky which was built for migrants. for example, malinovka, but now energy is what the planet should live, all these people perfectly understand, there are even political minds. this is about the fact that all the sanctions that were directed against belarus are sanctions against the future economy, the future economy, for example. logical economy, which gives
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us the opportunity to be independent. well , for example, the balts always say that the nuclear power plant is a very dangerous station stuffed with iodine by the inhabitants of vilnius, which, probably, should save, but nothing happens in august of the twentieth year. many liberals or enemies of the peoples, going out into the streets, said that the stork should be closed first of all, but at the same time it travels. well, that is, there is such a break in the pattern, which, in general, in principle, does not allow somehow collecting this whole story into one heap. we may not be able to do this in an hour either, but still understand energy, especially nuclear energy. what it is? what is it eaten? how much does it cost? yes? how has our life changed? and most importantly, are we doing this whole thing in germany correctly? this weekend they closed the last ice well , in fact, the greens achieved what they wanted, gases and oil with russia do not receive nuclear energy, they do not, and now liquefied natural gas is being transported from ger. and also from
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america to germany is tolerable. here is a trite speculative story, however, i will give you. you are telling about germany, and i will give you an example in france in france of 28 m of nuclear power plants. uh, moreover, near lyon, in my opinion, only five of them were built near one city, when i was in lyon, i was shocked, everything is blazing with them in the evening everything burns shimmers. well, it’s like a holiday, as if trams are running, and there are wheels on the trams and everything sparkles on them, that is, there are amplifiers. i'm asking a question. and why are you wasting so much, it turns out, excessive electricity? and yet, nevertheless. yes, they went the way of the greens and, uh, covered the parts. e nuclear power plants has now become a question of the time of conservation of these plants. so what are they up to? here are the energy. maybe she’ll tell you better about it there, if she doesn’t work there for a long time. everything, something cracked, something
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so to speak, the car does not go, 2 weeks is already breaking down. well, this is such a popular percentage, that is, not everything is so simple, and in addition, in modern conditions. many people say, uh, there will be digitalization. we don't need industry and so on. and i will give you an example just recently. you've all heard about chat. gption. so. uh, when do the customers come in? well, they ask some questions, then today chat e gpt consumes as much energy as the whole of new york, how many people live in new york. uh, that's so much energy if he speaks turn, uh, well, let's say so, a billion people, there or 2 billion. there is no such amount of energy. you see how our liberals and economists always say in one person, that's okay. we have a cryptocurrency cryptocurrency is mining, mining and electricity. and let's close. these are, as it were, banal things
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that have already entered our everyday life, but still do not understand this. many people think that digitalization will not be an industry. there will be no energy consumption, there will be consumption and a lot of consumption, in addition, literally. e the day before yesterday. uh, a pensioner tells me. and one that we e is a nuclear power plant. i say like why? i say the industry will develop. why do we need industry? i say pension, who will pay you. you see, people don’t understand, they don’t see this dependence, but we lived for too long, and lived before the appearance of a nuclear power plant, and even the same industries and the same industrial enterprises, before they could rebuild. yes, listen to ordinary people, before they can reorganize , some time must pass. denis will come to you. here. uh, as far as we can now assess the path that belarus has passed on the path of this so-called electrification. and, that is, it is clear that when
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the idea itself was laid. this is the first capsule in the construction of a nuclear power plant. we have seen something, yes, we have seen, and how we will consume this electricity, how to implement it. well, here's a philistine view, it seems to me that we hmm well, maybe not enough finalized. it seemed that with the advent of nuclear power plants, this is how irina vasilievna says, everything will sparkle here. uh, everything will glow we will all drive electric cars. and it seems that life has not changed much. or maybe, it just seems to me, no, you definitely have a lot. uh, i think i've been a little, uh, from the very beginning, if you'll excuse me. that's what you said hmm uh, i'll comment. well, as far as the outer perimeter is concerned. yes , we are talking about a nuclear power plant. uh, somewhere in the meantime, 30 countries have announced that they are ready to launch the saudi arabian emirates in the near future, where it seems there is a lot of oil, which most of all they shout that we have the wrong nuclear power plant here. they are just now declaring for the first time that
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they are ready to build a nuclear power plant in their country for review in the future, the capacity of nuclear power plants throughout the world will double, that is, it will reach 870,000 megawatts there. this is a huge power, and today the share of e-electricity in the world generated by nuclear energy is about ten percent. soon. this value will grow, because again. uh, outer perimeter energy leads to the fact that all countries are turning to nuclear power. why because it's long? because it is relatively cheap energy resources, and most importantly, it is environmentally friendly, look. you are all correct. say well, let's do it so we, as big officials, can decompose the problem into a strategic tactical strategic, when we were building a nuclear power plant we talked about the fact that we need to be more independent of russian gas, for example, yes, that is, we must somehow transfer our
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production for electricity is a strategy, when we came to the tactics of tactics - you know, it just expressed itself, and in the words of one of my moscow guests, when i say the avenue has been deduced, a trolley bus will now come up. he says there are no wires here. i say this is a trolley bus without wires. this is what? as a matter of fact, we need to see this is the tactic. look here. we started asking questions. for example, to be honest, i don’t really understand, but i guess, will there be increased volumes of modernization of the so-called last mile. i understand perfectly that people are worried. here's what, because the first one just reveals even more. yes, a good nuclear power plant yes, excellent people work, but if i live in conditional hours, and i need to put a boiler there. here is my entire network, which was built 30-40-50 years ago, it will withstand all this and such hours. as you understand , there are 118 in our country, and this is where both strategic and tactical planning, which takes place
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at the state level, comes into play. the fact is that ah indeed, one of the essential directions of increasing the electrical supply or the sale of electricity, which is generated by the power plant there. this is just the power consumption of the population. what needs to be done is a speech? it is necessary to make sure that the population can use this electrical energy. you are absolutely right about the networks that were built in soviet times, but they were originally designed and, of course, completely different power; other electrical equipment in houses was not used for electric heating, and so on, but this is not means that we will continue to exist on these old networks. we seem to have built quite a systematic work. there are 1,500 settlements of the republic of belarus planned for the next five years , coordinated actions by the ministry of energy. the area of executive committees is defined by the list, uh, according to which we are moving to transfer these settlements to the needs of electric heating, what does this mean? we
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are investing money, we are investing resources to carry out the reconstruction of electrical networks so that in these populated points could disappear in the village and the capacity will be increased. right quite right, based on what based on there quantity. population or will it be some kind of common standard? no, of course , we are looking at settlements, if this settlement is not supplied with gas, if there are no other sources of energy in it, then the most correct thing at the moment is the use of e-electric energy. we need hot water heating, what we do we count the number of houses that we have, we accept the standard. how many we need power for each house and, based on this power, we design and build a new electrical network, or we reconstruct the old one in order to provide all consumers artificially. well, i don’t know what to encourage to encourage belarusians to more actively switch to that’s it. uh, electric
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uh relations, whatever gennadievich say just now to forgive the belarusians. it's all about you, right? over the past few years lived the main car strange where it doesn't turn. yes now we would very much like to live became the main people's electric car, because well, i said tesla by name, yes, well , of course, that, probably, not all. we have many chinese brands appeared. here's how to get people to switch to electric cars because, well, the cities are kinda charging. well, they promise that they will now appear in the district centers. well, yes, well , i would like to add to my colleague that indeed, when an energy resource appears, then strategic tactical plans for its use appear. and now we are witnesses the fact that if, for example, they didn’t have infrastructure for electric vehicles before, then now
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there are more than 600 refueling and just all over the republic, and i would like to note that our country is the most advantageous. well, let's say relatively small, so the distance is here. great, er, good roads, and when an energy resource was added to them, then for us. really. i think that, uh, uh, the transition and mass use of an electric car is, well, a fairly near future. eh, because everything you need is infrastructural. it already exists that as for electric vehicles, then, of course, this is not an easy task. er, it's, well, there's a ton of technical issues that we need to work out. yes? uh, now we can say, well , here we go. by which way did we bring the first electric vehicles, 2 years ago, they are practically in operation. they've been for over 2 years now. we gave service with this car, that
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is, further training. now, if also, uh, it is necessary to prepare not only the energy infrastructure, but the service infrastructure to train people. now we can say that in fact we are already close to well the solution to this question. well, uh, with regard to the domestic car. that's it, together with the academy of sciences, the united institute of mechanical engineering work. eh, the logic of movement is like that. we must learn to apply, then we must learn to localize. eh, such an electric car. well, further already organize the production of these electric vehicles, therefore, well, i think that this is the issue under discussion and the legend of sufficient or energy capacities. it's just the mover. but, tell me, as a production worker. you know, when you talk, usually everyone says that the most an expensive car is batteries. and for us, for example, the same buses from
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electric vehicles to trucks. first of all, this is a battery, which we have not yet fully learned how to produce. is it true or not. well, yes, the rest of the difference between an electric car and a traditional car on gasoline and diesel is the battery, which, of course, is now more expensive. well, i think that here we have those comrades who are more professional, in fact the battery is on the table. yes, that is, here are the battery cells, i would say, that is, to understand what is in electric vehicles many people say the battery is the most expensive. well, the most expensive and the most scarce, let's say, that is, the question is in volumes, that is, demand always generates supply first. yes, that is, if for our country, everyone there says that there, well, conditionally there, $200 per kilowatt-hour is cheap, then in china they say it’s about $100 per kilowatt. now it's cheap there. yes, we do not say how much they say in latvia , lithuania and poland, you know, we are talking about us. yes, no i mean, the cost of the cells themselves,
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yes, that is, and if before it was happy there are 500 now already. well, that is, the price of batteries is going down. first second cell. again, chemistry. it is constantly being upgraded now gasoline let's go, wait. uh, well, it's time to start moving on. slowly. yes , yes, yes, yes, take your place in the parking lot of the charging station. and what do you have here? i mean, uh ours, what here uh is the electronics that controls this battery. yes, that is , while the cells are purchased, that is, yes , developments are underway in belarus, but you know how it differs from what is already working, for example, on the same tesla or on a geel. well, this is nothing at all, yes, that is, there are cells on the tests. approximately this size. yes, and on the jill something like this, well, that is , they are half there, but they are not the essence of the package shape, let's say, from which, uh, electronics is different here, that is. here, electronics is our own development of a fully software-hardware algorithm. all my own
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uh-huh and why is it important. what, first, as development progresses? we can develop too we will sit at this game according to well, they give us this , we eat this, yes, yes. here we can develop instead of with the whole world, as it were, that is, if something was forbidden to us. selling some kind of microcircuit to buy. yes, we are moving on to another, because i understand that, probably, this question is more for them vasily, but still, do you represent the political history of taiwan? yes , there is a war going on, primarily for the production of microcircuits, of course, that is, many people do not really understand what is happening there in taiwan. well the chinese with the chinese power is not shared. but no, after all, the americans are trying to translate the chip. we can offer something, or it's still one step behind the same chinese or american production, as long as it's a lag. yes, that is, we do not yet have microcircuits for this. yes, that is, let's say, but then
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again, but for work in the competence now at the level we can formulate our requirements. in addition, an integral to our chip designers, so that they create, because, well, if we were 5 years old, they would come and say, give us the requirements for the microcircuit. we would say, well, we don’t know what is there, yes, what then turned out to be a snag with a belarusian electric car. that's how many years we tried there, only tried. at the beginning of this year, when the president was at this exhibition , they showed a layout, well, uh, they showed the development itself. test drive yet, as i understand it, as such was not. well, that is, again, i would not say that we showed the development of the electric vehicle that will be produced. no, this is a demo car. it hasn't even been painted on display yet. he was prettier of course, yes, a little blue one, yes, yes , that is, uh, this particular roadster. this is just a demonstration of competence that we can do something for a fighter. well, this is where the economy kicks in. yes, that is, you ask me why there again for years in belarus and
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its own electric car appeared, that is, well, the first thing i will say is a marketing issue. yes, that is, uh, we have lived no, helped that matter. here, what is it? uh, of course, electric vehicles began, as it were, like a clean slate of the academy of sciences and until there was needs. after all, we can no longer say that an electric car is now in demand more than a gasoline one. yes, and uh, if we're talking about builds, for example, then our economic payback comes when we make at least 30,000 cars there. yes, well, i can say that with all the successes that are now in electric transport, while all types are used, well, 4, 1/2 thousand about five three and a half, even three and a half, yes, well, that 's more than one of them in minsk judging by by green numbers. they are on every street. yes, it's not a lot of. here. er, so it's kind of a matter of demand and infrastructure. i mean, well, as
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they say, it was too late yesterday. actually, it was early yesterday. tomorrow will be later, so here is the main question. these scientific developments should be transferred to industrial production, and industrial production involves not only these components. well, also the platform of the car and the availability of documentation, so this is a complex issue that is now being resolved by the ministry of industry. uh, that is, together with the academy of sciences. well me too i think that these consistent steps of both production workers and science will give us the result. look, if we say, when it is a completely domestic car, then i think that it will appear completely domestic. well, not until 3 years later. uh, but uh, if now we have given a new platform to this academy and uh, today we say electric traction motors have been mastered and the control system has been mastered. uh. as far as i know, the academy
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of sciences is developing a battery, well, which is supposed to be, well , at a cost lower than e. well, those who today in the world are produced, therefore, this is a consistent movement. but it, unfortunately, does not allow us to move quickly. besides, uh, i always talk about that. what’s in our well, i used to think that in the eyes of the layman of the car, the wheels of the steering wheel are glass, yes, in general, this software and hardware complex, because moreover, which is controlled by a non-professional, and in dangerous conditions he should see a pedestrian cyclist. he must slow down and so on. in short, it takes time. well, the good thing is that the infrastructure has been created. e, with allows us to say with confidence that the introduction of this type of transport in our country will come earlier than, well, in other countries. we're
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talking about marketing here. yes, this is such a plush when you understand that you are being coaxed to tell you, how good, how bad. and you always have to, in theory, as people responsible for the environment for nature for everything. the rest is to warn us, especially when certain technological units are created. now there were gennadiers, sladovich called it all a hardware complex. yes, but we really connected nuclear power plants and ecology with eighty-sixth year plump up to a certain point. and i'm at the beginning of the program. it was not in vain that he said that some changes had to be made to the mentality, because we were afraid. yes, this is actually a tragedy that caused a certain pain that needs to be endured. we understand that we need to move forward, but still, what about the environment. yes, because even 5 years ago there was an explosion at chernobyl. there or release of energy. and everyone immediately starts to run around worrying. what will happen that now we have it. uh, i probably
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i must also say that i thank you very much for this linkage. here is the eighty- sixth year and the chernobyl disaster. uh, because our country, uh, accepted this challenge of the chernobyl disaster. he was forced, but she accepted not only our country accepted, but corrected herself with this challenge, including in terms of control and monitoring of the diet of the situation, both the contaminated territories and the clean territories of the republic of belarus, so today we can say with confidence that the current rational monitoring system in the country of control radioactive contamination of the territory affected by the chernobyl disaster and that's it. this is a derivative, but from the chernobyl disaster, because before it there were a dozen observation points for radiation monitoring. forced. they have been enlarged. e on environmental objects after chernobyl tell me in this resettlement zone in the 30-kilometer resettlement zone there
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. and it’s even impossible, especially, as you said in the resettlement zone, there are bans and you don’t have to go there, uh, but uh, after all, 37 years have passed after the chernobyl disaster, if not everyone knows the zones of these half-lives, and some elements do not all have their years, strontium, 28, of course, reduced the pollution of the territory by half, if earlier we said that 23% of the territory was affected, today our reports are official give a report that it is 12 somewhere for five whole years. do you know that a city in belarus in which, er, the birth rate exceeds all cities by the total number of inhabitants, is a city that is located in the very south. narovlya bragin is these regions, regions in which there are very many immigrants who left there from very close territories. tell me
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, children are born there, it's not scary. you know what i'll say again. uh, i came to talk about the ration at the monitoring, but considering that for many years the republic of belarus has been in the chernobyl theme, it has done so much for the rehabilitation of the renaissance, it has implemented and is implementing so much further state programs, what are these territories? in a sense, it becomes attractive to both young people and uh. they say that maybe, of course, not quite correct comparison. but when some terrorist attacks happened before, yes, they said that the place where it happened. this is now the safest place, because there, but a bunch of special police services come and so on. yes, they are trying to protect people as much as possible, but it is clear that that is, the chernobyl nuclear power plant didn’t happen like that, also in the context of the fact that the attention that was paid to those territories that were affected, yes, but
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probably not paid to any of the e, so clean called regions. it is clear that when belarus survived this tragedy, this blow, but not only was it difficult for us to decide on construction. and the new nuclear power plant is so, and probably only well, a fool could think that we would not pay due attention to the safety built there, forgotten, but at the same time ours. uh, the neighbors were especially worried, especially the lithuanians, for this white es. they still worry, they constantly have the feeling that you know they don’t work for it, the feeling that they see for themselves right there what is happening with the way they constantly write their own. uh, reports and so on. but let's do it in such a way that both for them and for e our viewers explain the belarusian nuclear power plant. uh, how do you monitor the situation around her and all these speculations are stuffing, uh, maybe there were some real
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stories ah. that's how you control, so i've already started to say that, uh , the projection monitoring system is represented by 120 observation points throughout the country. i even took such a small card. it is, of course, decorative. i don't know how much it will obvious, but we see what, let's say, the main foci. yes, this location is here around the chernobyl station in the mogilev region - this is the territory of resettlement, including around two centers. this is our station and sagin. yes, where the ignalina nuclear power plant is located nine kilometers from the border with belarus and there is also a nuclear waste disposal site, approximately 9 km from the braslav lakes. so, you are very well informed. not a belarusian nuclear power plant we are already at the construction stage in accordance with our legislation. we should be monitored. at all stages of the life of a nuclear facility already
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in the eighteenth year. we conducted an additional 10 observation points around the belarusian nuclear power plant and how many in total, a total of 120? here is the one i show here, if we look across the country, and near the white one, and near the white one from 10 observation points - these are three. ah, surface water. everything is good there. tell me, simply, is everything good there, everything is fine there, and therefore we are very happy, because we measure a lot of parameters and total alpha activity. it's activity and scenes strontium and water in the air, soil and e, we are pleased to note that the diet is in the normelinsky situation. this reserve, which is located on the territory of lithuania, is also normal, because we also have observation points there and we have automatic systems. dose rate measurements and sensors are installed every 10 minutes belgidromed in the rational monitoring service 7x24 dose rate data are received, and we are pleased
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to say that this is within 0.10 microsieverts , while the natural fund is up to chernobyl 0.20. in short, sleep peacefully. it is possible and everything is being done for this by the country being done by all services. andrey vladimirovich, you are the leader. hmm minsky , really. yes, this is what journalists say to the floor, but in the capital i say what they say. come on, in fact, this fact on the one hand is very public on the other hand. few. who is interested. well, the fact that a small nuclear power plant operates near minsk, which, in fact, is such a scientific experimental one, yes. why would she? in fact, it was created why it survived? this is the time when, in fact, everything that concerned us. well, at least it was destroyed or forgotten, and what is the contribution exactly? your institute in the creation of the belarusian, well, firstly, the concepts are a little confused here, that is, the concept, and c is a nuclear power plant, which means, that is, the concept of nuclear installations, including those used for research
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purposes by a journalist, we would scare . you understand, yes, that's why we, uh, naturally operated research facilities, which are used to conduct scientific research works, including in substantiation of the creation of promising nuclear power plants in the substantiation of the e-safety of the belarusian npp on the basis of the safety of handling spent fuel with radioactive waste, that is, a whole range of studies. uh. our institutes provide scientific support for the construction of the belarusian nuclear power plant. and so here i am, as it were, continuing the thought. uh, the previous speaker i want to say that in fact here is the monitoring of the radiation situation. it's already the last frontier, which is, as it were, never it is desirable that safety is not achieved, but the eu begins with the quality of the project with the quality of manufacture with the qualifications of personnel e with the correct operation of this and all these so-called levels of defense in depth it is they who ensure the safety of nuclear power plant project of our belarusian nuclear power plant, it is the most modern - this is generation three plus, it takes into account the lessons
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that were, let's say, learned after the chernobyl disaster and others. eh, let's say so accidents at nuclear power plants, e and the russian federation as a technology supplier. they really do have it now. well, probably the best competencies in the world in this area. well, actually, it's good. these are the things that you try to touch with your hands. here's what we said from well, from the future, uh, something that seemed to be unattainable. and now please , so i say, who is the trolleybus without wires electric house is something else that you are developing there, or is it purely scientific industrial development. uh, so, well, it is clear that the works are promising, which are aimed at the distant future. well , for example, a mobile nuclear power plant. that is, what does she need? by the way, the head of the national academy of sciences gusakova said that yes, we will develop. and for what, uh, so this uh, let's say this installation. it is in great
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demand, we are in demand, perhaps not so much in belarus as, for example , in the russian federation, where there are large areas without a centralized power supply, that is, power supply. e gas fields oil fields. the president often talks about the fact that science, in principle, should itself move, including produce. the president's message, we talked about this, yes, production workers, until they undertook to do it. well, we have many areas of research in relation to energy, some. of these, in fact , they have already found their application. e, for example, the development of our institute of energy on infrared emitters, that is, so that at a production site in winter, for example, it does not heat everything with a room only to heat the address of the place of work of an employee of a certain worker. here, you can use them. this is
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a very economical, very breakthrough development in germany to sell in the winter they have savings there. in addition, for example, here is our institute for thermal mass exchange. they worked with different people for a long time. actually thermal systems. e topics of mechanical systems. they have developments, including boilers, including electric boilers, and they gave them away to industrialists who are now replicating them. and now we are also developing our own systems. uh, heating, well, using electricity, because we are discussing this topic today. it's promising for uh, okay. and what is this? again, what i would like absolutely, well, publicly and somehow interesting to tell. yes, for example, i remember that a few years ago they built an electrode with an electrode in loshitsy. he was well told about him by journalists that there was a supply, uh, with the help of electricity, water on electric stoves, they cook food , they heat it with electricity , then somehow the whole thing was forgotten. in the end, she considered
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minsk has four electric houses. it’s really, like an option, when , uh, they are put into operation, they are working, there are plans, but for now it’s still either there is no demand, because if they build, then they know how there is no demand or what, well, in general, the question is uh an electric house, so that the mud water supply is hot, so that the heating, well , the heating of the food was, uh, on electricity. this is precisely due to the fact that we now have additional capacities that we can use and, of course , it is expedient to introduce them. where we don't have ready-made infrastructure, such as central e, outside, large cities. it is clear that it is probably not very good to build in minsk. come on, why why throw away something that works so well for us. we need to use it prudently, so where we have this infrastructure. no, it is expedient to build such electric houses conditionally, let's call them electric houses. and there are at least three options for them. ah, erections. this is the easiest one. uh, with
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the so-called converters, that is, when you just put a heater in an apartment, and it heats the air, for example, yes, uh, then it’s a boiler, for example, it’s his house or a boiler in a particular apartment, and each of these projects, uh, if there are pros and cons, well, uh, in short, the costs of the first option are the least with an envelope. yes, but from the point of view of the average term, so to speak. eh, the most economical one is a house with a boiler for the whole house, that is, it heats water with electricity for the whole house and then distributes it through ordinary pipes. moreover, the project is already this, if, for example, a new microdistrict is being built somewhere near minsk where it is not needed. e news such as, for example, heat central for heating. you are wrong when you say that, well, how would it be, like one house was built and everything is in minsk, in my opinion, four now in the country are much more than that, i, well, as it were, a little bit in numbers, yes, and the consumption of electrical energy by the population. we need heating for hot water supply
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increased five times over the year from 97. so 1.000 million kilohours to almost half a billion. kilowatt hours, that is, this is a process that is running and this is not a theory, this is not just, well, like some pictures and four houses four pieces. look just the meaning what if we have standing nearby, uh, we want an electrode and an ordinary house due to the fact that it seems to us that electricity is a lot cheap, so that electric houses are, well, at least cheaper to maintain than usually it turns out already arif for electrical energy, which e, is designed for just the same heating needs of hot water supply. it is just the same and calculated, based on the fact that the costs of heating hot water were such as well as e for heating in central, why should i live in an electric dome then, if i get a significant level of comfort for myself, this is what, because the level of control
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of electric heating is much more convenient and efficient, if the second question is completely good, again, you, as already a representative of the ministry of energy , look, again, the president, as he said that he wants our roads to be illuminated, as germany always has all the autobahns. not only are they even, they also glow all day and night. if this, in my opinion, we talked about at the last program, we have some. well, it means that they are glowing and, in fact, where should this electricity be put. i understand that a nuclear power plant generates electricity somewhere. you have to put it where, if it doesn’t go anywhere, this is probably bad for s too quite right, a nuclear power plant, its peculiarity lies in the fact that it generates electricity constantly, and the industry does not work constantly. we work with you during the day, and at night we illuminate the street, respectively, we have a hotel power consumption. today this issue is being addressed in two ways. first, electric boilers have been built in the energy system. in general, it's difficult. in general, there are also firms in the republic
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of belarus with a capacity of about 900, and samples and they already work perfectly as a standard stable brest region. electrical energy is consumed. uh, spending electricity on lighting is also an option and it can also be considered, but you need to understand how much it costs, because it costs to build this network and build more poles the last mile is the most expensive. quite right. yes, and here we must understand that it is always necessary to look for the most optimal solution in order to consume this electrical energy as one of today's promising areas for power engineers and the task that we set, among other things, for the academy of sciences. it's just energy storage. here's what. we said today, as soon as the price of the drive falls, there are below, uh, critical values. it is you who are proposing large accumulators already of cities to build absolutely. it is already today that there are such gigafarics that accumulate this electrical energy in high capacities and
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allow it to be stored at night during the day to give it away in the republic of belarus in the republic of belarus there are already samples. where is such a mechanic? used by napoleon orda in minsk , a filling station was built , an electric filling station, on which such a project was implemented , there is an industrial storage device that consumes electricity at night and actually gives it away during the day. yes, never, what do you have, what science will say in this case. well, you can confirm that indeed. we still uh, very often uh, get a little used to what their taxes are. here i will give you an example of the use of electricity. soon everyone will turn off the heating. yes. uh, respectively, already in the residential sector. then time will pass and the heating systems will be tested. here is a cozy renovation and it will be so pleasant in quotation marks. eh, a couple of weeks, when they were, as we used to, and we already always, including myself
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, for example, have an electric boiler, which is turned on and used for this time. yes, this time we lived. enough and especially in other regions somewhere. uh, winter, you didn't pay attention. how many costs for the same cleaning of icicles per building and so on, but all of them can and have such technologies to heat not yes, not the entire roof, but locally those who heat the roads. for example, i saw in azerbaijan. they build, uh, concrete blocks in german technology, and they just lay it down after a certain amount of time. ah, meters. yes , they will just start building them right away. and we talked about it last year, very responsible areas, for example, the exit from the subway somewhere where a lot of people move can be done. look, all this can be done when it is cheap, i agree. therefore, in this case, we are talking about the fact that you must always take into account tariffs in order to interest people. well, you need to use it
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wherever possible, for example. well, the truth is, this time was turned off a little in automatic yes, look, we are talking here, we are talking very very smart scientific terms, yes, but we have identified one word cheap anyway, how to do it cheap? here look, science invents production , orders it, and organizes it, and then the accounting department, economists, calculate such gifts dearly. so the fact is that we even teach students that there is a technological efficiency to distinguish and it is economically possible to create that's what you are talking about, that's all, it is technically technological, but when you calculate an unprofitable investment, this state invests here, and on west private trader and for the private trader. he looked and said, no, it's just unprofitable, so you need to achieve to make investments in this technology profitable. let's then say
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this simple example with roads and lighting. yes, we'll figure it out with you. it's clear that for a while. our main highways have been rebuilt. yes, they were built according to certain technologies, starting from the roadway, ending with lighting masts with holy masts. yes, now is the time to reconstruct these roads. well, some of them we have a whole program. yes, and accordingly, not only does this concern the roadway, but also the same lighting of those gas stations located on opposite sides of the road. but uh, as i understood from your words, what is still to do? unfavorable is not degenerate. let's say expensive, yes, it turns out that now we will rebuild everything again , we will remake it in our old way, quite digestible. uh, cheap, but not the way i wanted, not the way i would like, but the chance to change it, roughly speaking, will be there in a certain number of years, when the road again becomes unusable for an ordinary
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layman, then we really need the second question second. and if in order to it was all. and what do you think, uh, many people think that the president was joking when he said that i would have two more, but the spanish chances did not think that he really was. yes, he calculates correctly. everything is fine . electricity is needed, because today we are 86% energy dependent on gas. with the launch of this station, it means that more than 20 billion cubic meters of gas can be corrected every year. uh, this station replaces somewhere in the region of 5 billion. so calculate how much it is replaced the gas, and therefore, if two more it will be 15, but still still from the gas. we will depend. and when you say stop, but here you need to decide, since we have state property, it is clear that these are our taxes. and if we are inefficient, there the heating of the road mast made it clear that this will fall on
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the shoulders of the state, but abroad, where such a form exists, how can public private partnership be done? paid this road, that is, if you want to ride on a warm one, yes, yes, that is, maybe this way you can solve this question. well, to make, for example, a toll road, well, with heating of the road itself from the backlight. well , look at what concerns transport and roads - this is not exactly the ministry of energy. where to get energy, i want to say that the task is not just to consume electricity. well, since the task of consuming it is logical, of course, so that there is a debt from it, so that there is actually some benefit, when it came to the integration of the first nuclear power plant, all these options, including the use of electricity, the necessary lighting on the highways. they were all analyzed. an economic assessment was given, what will it give? how much money do you need to spend and what will be the effect?
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uh, the thing is, if we start and light these roads, don't you think it's going to be some big amount of electrical power, because if you light them. you will probably not illuminate with incandescent bulbs, you will be highly efficient led lamps, even over the entire length it will be relative to the country, not like that. relatively even from the power plant is not so much power costs will be hair. but i will say such a seditious thing. well, me as an ordinary citizen. well, in general, all these calculations of yours are of little concern. i want to drive on the road that is lit up there. we have built in the country. so, as our man thinks, my electricity should be almost free, and i should drive an electric car and so the illumination should, uh, round-the-clock glow in public transport up to thirty percent should be electric and twenty-fifth. here are the latest cheap electricity and free electricity. these are completely different things. yes, yes buy
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an electric car. put large headlights protected, but when it is good light , but very close to parallel yes, i will definitely buy nikolay borisovich but what do you think about the construction, ah, the second even a nuclear power plant was, as they say, the cost of electricity. we, uh, everyone forgets that uh, respectively, both gas and oil, which are extracted from a meter of the earth, it is not infinite and the cost of production increases in one case, when , for example, gas or oil is also produced on land, that is, on land, another thing goes for e, tens of hundreds of kilometers of sea into the ocean on elves and significantly rises in price. therefore, if you look in the distant past. all the time they call a distant figure. 1991, a thousand cubic meters cost 20 rubles. gaza. it's about, uh, 18. uh, it was dollars. yes, if we compare
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today, the cost for our republic is very worthy. and here you are, probably not a small story. which was in that year you seen. what was the cost of gas when it was approaching 4,000 dollars per thousand, well , we have now learned that the less expensive, the stronger the ruble knife, you know, you need a strong ruble, you don’t need gas and so on. so, accordingly, since nuclear power plants have, well, today, as i understand it, a three-year fuel cycle - this is a race fuel plant, let's say 3 years and 3 years is enough, then we are moving away from gas dependence, because the underground storage of gases that we have they provide enough limited the amount of work of our entire economy, so we must always think ahead. in addition, scientists work to ensure that this cycle will increase four or more years and then
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it’s understandable. you'll excuse the group loaded the fuel. yes, and you have been working for several years now, not thinking about what you need to conclude. new contracts for the supply of this fuel and so on. that is, today there is a large energy sector, as i will call 94% of electricity. uh, we have until the commissioning of the first block on november 3, 2020 - this is natural gas for us. and so if you look, uh, geography, uh, fuel consumption in other states, then we will see that we are the only ones, because everywhere even russia , which supplies us with gas. there is a balance of such gas, somewhere around 55% of other types of fuel. that is, we sometimes get used to the good and forget that everything can be slowly against the second. and if needed, then the third, in addition, at the household level. you are probably like specialists who, uh, are present here, that such situations often occur in our country, somewhere u fell apart from
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improper operation of the gas equipment, when we have electrical equipment this does not happen. this is also electrical wiring here, you also need to see force majeure, there are different ones with hidden wiring, which was previously allowed. uh, oblique wiring or not? and so on. today it is all gone, that is, on a trajectory. she already a must be turned vertically and so on. well, the electricians will probably tell you, but in any case. uh, this is also a factor that uh, well, must be taken into account, because we have just started talking already, and the second nuclear power plant. yes you were doing scientific support of the first, as we said above, you are already looking at the option of scientific support, the second and third. maybe there is a place somehow prism in the most important question, where well, choosing a site is a separate big job.
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that's why it is natural that the operation needs to find the results that were obtained when choosing a site for the first station, what they chose for the first well. in a sense, it may be so, if we already have two blocks in the western part of belarus, well, the mogilev region. yes, and there already to search, using here are the surveys that have already been carried out in a place more convenient in terms of security and power supply. well, for a number of factors. that is, this is a complex work, it is being carried out by a large team of specialists. and in the end, it is still submitted to the decision of the head of state. but this is understandably not a quick process. that is not even a question of a year or two. i think the decision itself or i am definitely wrong, that is here. e. well, even though some foreclosure studies have already been carried out a period of observation is required. there are also seismic and so on and so forth, which will form the rationale for the choice of a particular site. that is, the most important thing here is to ensure the safety and economic efficiency of the future plant, so this
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issue is complex. it is very difficult. ugh this question. uh, then to our industry to rebuild. the construction industry, because well, what happened to the island before the start of construction, what you have turned it into a city remains. now it's different things, because the service sector entails trade. and in general, many, many 100 where a lot. yes, yes, a month in an island is more expensive than in minsk, because a lot of business travelers come. i don’t reveal a big secret, in fact, and forcibly, the conclusion told me that we don’t need a strong ruble. here are the connections with this energy. look, smart people are trying to look. yes, the higher the cost of a barrel of oil, the more we really understand that we will have a stronger ruble and that everything will be stronger. this is bad. i will explain. why, because the cheaper our currency will be. uh, the better they will buy our
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goods that we send for export. they are ceteris paribus. it will just be cheaper. and now when the russian ruble began to grow and comes ah-ah-ah and so on. i will not touch on the reasons why it grows? but this means that they can increase export operations of what they sell abroad, in the same way, this does not mean for us that it should be completely cheap. yes, it is necessary to monitor, but nevertheless, if it is stable, yes, even more so remember, the eleventh year, when they held e, it was already clear with us that the exchange rate was not the same until september, somewhere from january to september 11, then they still refused to switch to a floating rate, trading took place there on september 16, e, why? because, well, it's very bad when the currency is expensive. in the united states, it is also unprofitable for them to have an expensive currency, because it is also possible to increase exports. you see, this is another program in another program, let's talk about it, but about exports. eh, tell me
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well, yes, our electricity is getting into lithuania technologically. we are connected with them by the flow of electrical energy between us or yours, because i compared the website of the latvian energy systems. yes, there are lithuanian ones, uh, there is no official belarusian energy in lithuania, but there is in latvia, but at the same time, lithuanians buy electricity from latvia that is, it turns out our dirty energy still reaches vilnius, purely theoretically, i understand you, maybe there is no need to make a statement. well , theoretically. so maybe a look again. i'm talking about the technological territories of commercial deliveries at the moment from the republic of belarus, not to lithuania, not to latvia. there are technological ties between us and lithuania and these flows of physical electricity. it flows between us. but look again here the question is also exclusively production. this is the ring of electricity, which is the movement of electricity, which they tried to build in the baltic. yes, from poland, after all, when we
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arranged it in the soviet union. network she is well, by the essence was called this ring, yes, that is, it still exists. that's right, and it was very good, so the electricity was cheap, look, if the ring is common to the far east, now we are with you, uh, it means the evening is deep, and in the far east in the morning they start working. let's go there , yes, what at night, if somewhere less polish, you can take away from here, and moreover, uh, lithuanians somewhere, say, in the eighteenth year. they tried. they came to moscow. i was at a conference in st. petersburg. and so tell this story. they came to moscow to ask. let's experiment, what happens if we disconnect they are professionals of energy ethics, this is not energy. this is very other people's words , but they are afraid that there will be
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a collapse in general. e on this territory, because why connect to the swedish one, because in europe there is no such delusion, as many people here say that no, there was no high technology in the soviet union, what created such a ring. it was also high technology, but the power engineers can correct me. i don't know absolutely right, you say, yes, the power system of the soviet union is one of the most reliable electricity in europe, they were built on other principles and rings. yes, the global situation at zaporozhye is at the power plant. yes, well , we all seem to be following, and at some time ago we were actively speculating on this. yes, informational occasions, and so on and so forth, that ’s how important it is for us, in principle, to monitor so that everything is normal there from the point of view. even if i don’t say now that we didn’t fall out of this chain, and so the electrical connection today, the republic of belarus does not have ukraine with ukraine, that is, we have no electricity with them. no, you
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say the letter oh no in this ring. and yes, that means there were power lines. uh, and you know that even last year they were involved in certain periods, huh? uh, but at the moment all the lines are off and we are not physically connected to them. but of course, what happens at zaporozhye from the power plant is any reasonable person. he must use a banal word with his nose, yes, and in case they turn to us, as it happened already yes, at the expense of supplies from the chernobyl they laid it. the truth has been laid. well, the belarusian energy system is always ready to help, for any country, if anything, we have a mobile one to turn around at the power plant and yes, yes, the main thing is to have time to develop them and you can also add kirill the fact is that when the nuclear power plant was being built, but it’s clear that they said that there would be surpluses of electricity , so the question is about poland. you said that you are going to build more, no matter how they swear, also. just like lithuania swears or dared to build you a saginase and
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they found a japanese developer, but they didn’t found an investor, and therefore they are very upset. what did we get, she gave us a loan. and they have no further in poland, engineers from zakinu visaginas go to the island from work. well, what to do, because these were engineers from all over the soviet union, they are not lithuanians by nationality. well, i'll tell you more. and in this e in poland, they now used to talk about one nuclear power plant in the north-west, if it's an hour, but the start of construction. do you know what year 2034 is even yes, yes, the third they plan to launch the one they will start build in the twenty-sixth they are, by the way, we can oppose their station they want according to american technology. but cyril correctly said from the very beginning that we have technologies? well, that is, we have the best in russia and in france let me be corrected. i know that the french are very good
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at nuclear energy. and the russians and the americans are very strong about light for 30 seconds. i have 30 seconds of light. therefore, i will be brief and do not be afraid. well, you should try to figure it out and to make the most of it, i think we are on the right track. well , actually, they are really trying to deprive us of technology. we must understand that if you want to ride a trellis, there must be a nuclear power plant. if you want to use an iphone, there must be an independent light in the train, there must be several supports. well, well-known belarusian landscape painters from vitaly tsvetko yes, hyacinth alkhimovich, and who else stood at the origins of the belarusian school of landscape and
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