in non-wartime, this pan stood on the stove and began to heat up. it was interesting to society, so the steam had to be released, but now society is not interested. i travel a lot around the country , the first thing people say is, when they come up to meetings, say there will be no war, that is, people already have political reforms, party building. absolutely not interesting. yes, we did all this, but now they have only one narrative, and this narrative is connected with the preservation of our independence , sovereignty, and self-sufficiency. to me it seems you are lulling our vigilance. let's watch a fragment from the club of editors, the deputies say the murder as it is, what could be the murder of a delegate is an attempt to intimidate the entire belarusian assembly, you don’t scare it, so that someone is afraid to go to the elections, to be afraid to be nominated, especially to local councils, if deputies. it's

only a little 110, then, excuse me, i don't remember exactly how many thousands more people it should be. well, we’re not just anyone who is always prepared people, starting with the city council to intimidate so that a person sits and thinks. why should i go to the polls, suddenly something will happen less, because it reduced the number of deputies to remove, and the new code, but in any case , any electoral company will always be used by external forces to split the society. if we look at the history of all color revolutions, almost all dudins. all of them coincided with electoral campaigns. but it seems to me that there will be calmness, because this is my opinion, because the belarusians have acquired such immunity of their rights to calm down, it is impossible now in the region. well, hush, yes, smooth surface and at the same time, let's say a week ago, and our foreign ministry declares that there is a threat from poland, that

they are preparing terrorists and, uh, there are some other destructive forces. eh, i don't think it will be quieter and grace. see. let's sort it out then. in any electoral campaign and in any external influence, it is important that this external influence falls on some kind of soil, so that there are internal prerequisites for destabilizing the situation, for example, as was the case in ukraine in 2014, we could talk about the influence of the western intelligence agencies of the cia, but there were inside preconditions for this corrupt, arrogant, cynical yanukovych regime. we are not saying that yanukovych had the same regimes, but yanukovych , uh, and all entrepreneurs about it. they say he crossed, a certain line. they just

started to squeeze out the business, pointing fingers at it. and it has become massive. this does not mean that he did not have to restore the constitutional legitimacy when the opposition and he is in the presence of words. uh, signed a pact, not attacked, yes and political agreement to normalize the situation. this is a different issue. we're talking about uh, preconditions. this is a corrupt through and through, rotten regime of yanukovych and through and through. uh, rotten power structures. it was this factor that caused this maidan. the same story is similar, but with a different context. first of all, because of the covid in 1920, there was both covid and a desire for change, which means, of course, external forces also acted. but there were internal prerequisites, people wanted something new, but what did they not know? of course, then there was no control over the media. information field.

we didn’t manage in any way, we didn’t participate in the creation of new media telegram channels for bloggers of authorship, journalism, now the situation is fundamental , different, we don’t allow external factors into our field, we don’t allow broadcasts, but we don’t allow it, but it’s the internet that everyone opens it, who wants anytime anywhere. well, look, the internet opens, but they need to enter and vpn, for example, yes, a person is a person himself, he is lazy, and we look at it by views, for example. facts on the table yes how says always head of state one of the extremist main portals used to have two to three million visits. it has 600,000 subscribers. yes daily uh, 600,000 subscribers to the telegram channel is now the number of visits. on this portal, you can go through

the vpn has fallen 20 times in 20, that is, the coverage of a completely different media field is controlled by the power unit does not sleep , preventive measures are being taken. uh, the patriotic forces have begun to work more offensively, therefore, uh, yes, there are those facts that oleg sergeevich says, completely, possible, of course. we cannot introduce every person to every policeman. of course, you will surely find one or two of the frosts that will do some illegal action, but in general they will not capture the minds of belarusians, so i argue that this electoral campaign will take place without any excesses, but how would you say the interests of the voters to this electoral company will increase. the number of those who e will take part in the elections. i think that interest will be stable, more than half of the voters will come and vote, and for sure even a certain

palette of political forces will already be presented to them, because we have not only white russia. we have gaidukevich's ldpg. we have cbp. falcon we have , uh, a mass of independents. i think that there will be competition and a palette, and i'm glad that they will all be, uh, united by one denominator. this is patriotism, sovereignty , independence, self-sufficiency of our country others. they just won't be allowed to vote. well, here, too, you need to look back at the book, yuri, who also wonders. who allowed to vote. these are the candidates, in which we finally saw registered, is also a big question. i agree with you, and during your recent dialogue with the president, and during your message you discussed. or the possibility of exchanging honor for a checkpoint and the head of state offered to exchange it for a lettuce command. but there is a suspicion. for me personally, i don’t know if it’s right or not, that they all our viewers

understand, who are you, why can you give two or more lettuces for him, maybe you explain yuriy, but it means that the polish regime of the three-headed hydro dudemarovedsky kaczynsky e, must, on the eve of the electoral campaign, and they will have it this year to demonstrate some successful cases to the polish voter. the first thesis, the second thesis as part of the demonstration of these successful cases, they need to get a polish citizen of honor out of prison. this man with a polish passport. he received a polish passport in 2010, so they need to provide society with this successful case, and we said that we are ready for it. to give, but not just like that, but in return in return. here, in this case, to the lettushka, which, by the way, caused him an ironic reaction at first, but then some even hysterical reaction,

because the lettushka, perhaps, even read history and knows that he is valuable for the polish regime. it will reset over time and it will still be issued. notice now discussing. they are our fugitive fellow citizens. e that they are tightening the issuance, and residence permits. they do not give a visa, many of those who fought for the hmm armed forces of ukraine are now saying in an interview that their bank cards were cancelled. well, anyway. let's continue. you were supposed to meet on monday, but with representatives of the polish foreign ministry before the meeting. perhaps thought. i will, uh, discuss this issue again. maybe not immediately, but at least they will think of another option. e no. well, perhaps you can offer other options for the same traitors and scoundrels as lettuce. well, from

the idea, and how much it seems to change, they still do not retreat. that's what we have to explain to them somehow to the polish society. why don't you you pass off this some runaway belarusian as a polish citizen. the same value is a person with a polish passport, and they will be forced to somehow explain, but you know, i looked at monitoring their information fields so as not to explain. they don't even talk about it ordinary polish voter. yes , i don’t even know this proposal by lukashenka , because if this proposal were voiced in the polish media, naturally, the pole would say, as usual, why do we need this lettuce. give us back our polish citizen, but this situation is very interesting. it is very interesting to me, first of all, from a technological point of view. as far as hmm the head of state masterfully raised

the stakes in this case, how can we call it and play the role of a successful negotiator yuri we think that everything will turn out well for you, your confession is being discussed, let's call it. this is how you are recognized. uh, a threat to the national security of europe on the denunciation of that same pavel lettuce. why do you think it’s on you that he’s on a roll of intelligence, where are you with him somehow so unsuccessfully intersected, and everything is very simple, well, firstly, in his emergency stream, which he recorded the other day. he confessed that he filed a denunciation against me. i thought it would e. secondly, the fact is that my international visits at a certain time and the contacts i developed with diplomats became dangerous, first of all , for hmm, those who manage polish foreign policy . but when they

realized that these connections are becoming dangerous, we talked about the normalization of relations and the lifting of sanctions and a roadmap with the first steps. uh, to return to those normal healthy, primarily economic relations that we had with our neighbors. that's when those people who are now responsible for polish politics, and these are not poles. and their overseas partners. eh, they began to understand that something would happen from these meetings, they decided to inflict. here is such a preemptive strike to isolate me from western diplomas, he gives me, of course , a guilty person in the sense that he understands the cat that ate sour cream, but it also seems to me that, of course, your statements that you would like to be the ambassador of belarus to poland add fuel to the fire. you become a direct competitor. these are the times of the government of the so-called on

the territory of poland and therefore you, of course, need to be neutralized and than they are really exclusively for these purposes. you understand, they only neutralize those who insert them. yes, a threat to those who work effectively, that is, it is the best reward effective, but deprived you of the opportunity to visit. uh, the grave great-grandfather of the column to the basil. and he rested in the russian cemetery in paris. it's a shame, it's a shame. come on, and what about the same situation, and our officials and our many leaders, and our many journalists, therefore, well, it's okay to survive. i think that anyway, sooner or later, this situation will normalize, normalize, i will emphasize, when russia and the united states agree on something, then they will be sent further and further in a circle, circulars, they will begin to negotiate. well, we are discussing this

with political scientists. they agree. and what is it economically more profitable than this one here. the state of war is now. yes, a bad world, of course, but we have a colossal potential for growth. we can have, uh, foreign trade volumes of up to $10 billion or $15 billion. uh, if it means to evaluate dollars in rubles, respectively. up to 50 billion belarusian rubles short questions short answer before having a dark pause. and why not lithuania not latvia anymore do you want to become you? uh, because the lithuanian regime is incompetent, legally incompetent, perhaps he is legally capable, but he does nothing can take without instructions. the poles are more self-sufficient in this regard. uh, the polish people are very similar to the belarusian people, they are very hardworking, they are all christians. they are

conservative. here are all these perversions of lgbt parades for them, but in no way, that is, it is impossible to talk with them at the same price. it is useless to talk to the poles. can you plan to get through to them? yes, of course, drops wear away the stone sooner or later. we will do and normalize our relations. i don't doubt it. and now we will briefly interrupt after a short pause again let's go back to this studio, while subscribe to our telegram channel. tell me to be quiet. leave your comments. offer us guests, and look for all our issues on the belarus 1 youtube channel and on the website of the bel l telegram company. they

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on the air say again, don't be silent, and our guest is the author of the bestseller, how i overthrew lukashenka yury voskresensky yury valeryevich we remember you 2 years ago in this studio now we have two different people in front of us. well, there is a feeling that a steep political rollercoaster, after all, you have been combed a little, do you feel changes in yourself? yes i feel variable and i like that i take the best from everyone. who did you meet along the way? it seems to me only if you take it better, but you can become a professional, including in your field and broaden your horizons, so i try

to take the most interesting from each person from each team with whom i communicate in order to grow, because a person must always grow . something learn something to read, while he walks alive. uh, means to develop to visit to travel. only in this way we can keep a clear mind and a firm memory in february , a commission was created to return to belarus, uh, for those who committed offenses, in your opinion. this is a working tool for restoring a dialogue between the authorities and that part of society that planned a worker for it in 2020. moreover, i think this tool is the best, because it is legally framed, that we all must learn to live by the law, if someone does not live, uh, here are all these entries from the back doors through familiar acquaintances. they must stay. there is a legal

procedure in the past. there is a regulation, and in accordance with this regulation it is necessary to act. after all. we wanted to live like in europe as europeans by law, so let's start living, including in this area, so everyone who wants to apply, he applies, everything is recorded, everything is analyzed and will be submitted to a commission meeting, but uh, so, how they treat, while there are not many people, yes, you said yes, so far there are dozens of up to 100 people to date of these appeals. er, that's why the commission meeting hasn't been called yet, but no one will say that hmm, this door hasn't been opened. you see, the door has opened, please, come in fortunately, i notice among my acquaintances. who left? that's what they plan to take advantage of and already so in general, collect material. as i see, you know, every step he must require

preparation. victoria they are waiting for the first first. that's always a look. here's how to first. yes, we always have this one aha effective, maybe? uh, here's how they will be the first, then let's go and we ourselves are afraid to be the first. well, it's normal, they had experience in rescuing drowning people, so you ate a dog in this thread , you need a program. we'd like to thank you for, uh, the book. you're right. here are many events that are forgotten and erased from memory. and even recent events it would seem that only even three years have not passed, but the question is, the next what could your next book be about next book. probably, the next example of creativity will not be a book. i'd like to connect, uh, with television. in general, speaking.