[000:00:00;00] hello on the air, the program say don’t be silent studio svetlana smolonskaya and victoria popova and today our guest mother martha began with the fact that father andrei invited me to the sisterhood, it was 1998, i studied at the academy of arts as a painter, i wrote a diploma and we have, uh, your photo of those times, father andrei - this is the confessor of our monastery and the sisterhood, he conducted conversations there and through this many young people came, well, to the temple to god well , you say, you were in the sisterhood. i can give a little background. i studied at academy of arts. we had a practice of copying, and in the museum i decided to copy the icon, which i liked and while i did it. well, everything was standing in the museum, one woman approached me and offered to take me to talk to the priest. and for some time i found conversations

, and i didn’t do anything a lot and i felt good and left. and it was some period of time, and then, but i also think so, it was not by chance that it was in the summer. i went on vacation to israel and they went as a pilgrim. i went like an artist with a painter and god, touched me. well, that is, i, and before that, i didn’t think that i, as it were, well, i understood that there is a god, but i really wanted to be a believer, because believers have eternal life. don't believe it, you won't believe it. it's only when god touches him that the course guides were with him and told, they told how this is the story. well, at some point it hit me. here is a man, he talks about christ, here he was here. so he was there, he said, that's not it, that this person could not help but be. i've worked out. this somehow i went from there already inspired. just. i think that's it, now i'll go there for conversations

and go to the temple. and then it probably happens to you too. how did you make me different , some so different in life accidents are not accidental. these are some questions in life about us already by that time there were several people in the academy. e was in the sisterhood. eh, i was friends with them, and they advised me to come to the priest. like this for a conversation and then ask these questions. yes, i talked appointments, and like this, i came, and they gave me the first obedience in a children's boarding school. and it was also surprising, because before that i had thoughts of going to some orphanages for children. uh, well, and i couldn't find a place like that, and i love my attention. this orphanage is a boarding school for children with disabilities. and my grandmother told me, serena is there. and so i should be there, but how your relatives reacted to this. this is such a serious step mmm. yes , at the beginning too. well, well

, some really something important in life. then you yourself understand that there is some kind of spiritual struggle. yes, and some unexpected such unpredictable things can begin. and it was such that my mother moved and said that's it. e. here. uh, well, maybe, yes, yes, just as i remember there were all night accusations. eh, the great martyr catherine's mother came up and said. but what about e sisterhood without parental blessing, and the head says. well, so you bless means, this is your father's head. yes, he was generally shackled, but he was not against the house no in one of the interviews. you said to the monastery. i came a little later than the first sisters in march 2001. i i didn’t think that i would choose the monastic path, usually a man. you can refuse, but in this case, probably not. whether it was the groom is not exactly the groom, but i

just thought about this topic. well, of course. there were many cases when there were people who would like the main thing to get some kind of education to take place and i, as it were, were not interested in this topic. e, here, and then already, but there was a case, yes, already in front of the monastery, too. eh, and then, too , there was such an amazing moment, i suddenly realized that i really don’t want to lose what i i have, uh, i was already a sisterhood, and i painted icons, went to the children's internet. and plus we have some kind of. well, in principle, it was a very interesting life. uh, at the services we went to the talks refused it. and you also remembered the interview well. i remember the first night in the monastery. even then there was not enough gel, and the four of us lived, but despite this , only silence and eternity , the daughter, remained in my memory. i was alone with god, but mother martha was not there. here is the fear in the aftermath that, maybe i

did the wrong thing, maybe i will return home to when the head was blessed at the beginning, uh, well, i understand that god blessed it, but i didn’t have doubts, i had a lot of thoughts and drawers wrote diaries well, we have it, and even a person. if he just writes, he has something somehow. well, he obviously won't stop. and something yes and so bashko you said, well, then you don’t have to and at that moment i felt as if i had lost something. and that in general some kind of. so. well, i was afraid again. i was afraid to say something to the priest myself, and we are written in economy in workshop. well, they were friends there and sometimes even spent the night together. i was sitting there one evening writing there, only a diary, i thought one approached me, brother. i will share with him to write a letter to the priests. that is, he did not tell me about it, and then i come to naivety. after all, my grandmother tells me. what do you

want a monastery? the man decided for me somehow. in general, the donation came in and agreed and you think, like this, right? well, we already had representatives of the clergy in the studio. in general , doubts, because there is nothing like that, it is common for every person you just felt that it was god who wanted it that way, you know, and something was revealed to you. and you are an incomparable miracle, as we are told, yes, which then it is very scary to lose and there was an opportunity. as i understand. you did pause in this relationship to your sister, and you had the opportunity to compare, then after during. well, in general, well, god gave such a thing. well, joy, well, that's what's about this first principle. as you say, it was also very surprising. i later remembered, and it seemed to me all the time that i was there? one some sort of silence, and then euphrosyne of polotsky, you must have been, yes, in polotsk, and there, too, this ringing

silence. already drawings and somehow you feel, well, then again, israel, if you have something in common with her, i imagine these pilgrimages. no, that's hmm interesting and complex and happy everything, one might say, mother. you are an artist by education working in this written in the workshop - this is one of your obediences. here we found your diploma. please tell me what you are for hmm there are such rare moments, there and on sometimes i was taken to orthodox exhibitions, and i painted portraits from life there. well, such people are basically engaged in church painting. and now i have one new obedience. we began to pray to fedor shakul. we have seconds of his such a big piece of power, uh, invited cadets. and so they , too, began to press us to pray. and somehow it was decided that we would not

do a little bit of the military academy. well, i did it in order to understand people's lives a little, but i began to watch the channel of the military academy, well, too somehow some news, and i saw that such a competition was announced in honor of, uh, the 105th anniversary of the armed forces, uh, the republic and the state gave education and i can support our armed forces. and father immediately blessed and said to take first place. it's all that you already have a lot in common. this is also a kind of military obedience not court. at the same time , matte mutually beneficial cooperation. well, first place, father. said classes you wrote a picture of the oath there. she's already here. yes, i thought about the topic and, for some reason, i most of all, it was the topic that inspired us in the motherland, we take an oath to god in essence. it's almost the same as before. here the historical oath was transferred e before

the clergyman. the gospel and now it is, well, you can say, the lord is invisibly ahead, he is still there, of course, an automaton is attached , of course, there are a lot of similarities of a person, of course, always, when he does something, he passes this image through himself, therefore, well matushka martha is modestly silent about the fact that she fulfilled the order of the priest and took such first place in this competition. well, in my opinion the work of the cut and pro hmm oath ceremony. e, even in the code of a russian officer there was such a phrase, the soul of god, the heart of a woman for a long time , the honor of the fatherland to anyone, we discussed this with you. indeed, this is very consonant with what you said to each service in a different way. eh, now it starts, but it happens that at night i sometimes draw some works. well, sometimes at night it even works very well. quiet. and now, that's why it's always different. uh-huh. well , if you're night, uh, awake scripture, it's all

very different. no already. such a schedule you have ordinary life. well, how are we you can just ask everything, how to take a blessing for everything, that is, yes, we have a schedule of services and it is desirable to howl at them, but it happens that it’s true that obedience, but with a sister. yes, too, and she is also an artist. but no, she is not necessarily indebted to them. it was combined by different different neighbors. we live. yes, we live in two to three people. and this is also important when a person needs to live with someone. well, you yourself choose your neighbor or you can’t do that. well, more often than not. yes, hours more often, how it turns out, how we bless now we live a great post. i think that the most important thing for everyone to look into their hearts is to cleanse their hearts somehow prepare to accept such a huge holiday as the sunday of christ so that

nothing interferes with being with god on this day one of your obediences, as we know, this is a children's boarding house at home . it's not to feed. there was such a thing as our lord in three years , there was such a history in antiquity that this is a son. this is how the saint beautifully painted andrew, who the lord sent us to sleep now. we pray, look, it happens, the sun come on, look, the sun is in the world. yes, and hope is love, yes, sasha, you know if

love is true, only for the first time i hear such a thing, but i only know it, but this is only sunshine love. i would say your dream is to work with children. she found it anyway. yes, i think the monastery of all dreams come true; it's hard for you to work with these guys. not us, not hard. we are happy with them yeah, because it's just warm with them. oh, very often mothers who keep such children for themselves do not give them to the internet. they say it's solar children. you will agree, but i think it is much more difficult. we come to them somehow do something, and we leave. and so, well, of course , it’s harder for parents, as it were, that people suffer very much, on the contrary, it seems to me that they change under the influence of these circumstances, yes , aside yes, but how do you like these kids? here they changed. you can say that you

felt something enriched from them like yes , i think i don’t. he can communicate with them for so long. and but in this film you said that such people have very close paths to god, they feel it in their hearts, that it is very difficult for a healthy person to understand, he passes all this through the mind, therefore, he has a long road to god. let's see. who are you? jesus

christ and such a name is mother martha and her children are very sincere, in my opinion, sincerely, yes, and you

have another dream how? yes, we are already arranging such a small house outside the city. we plan so that the guys will go there. well , not only from childhood, but well, the fact is that when these children reach adulthood, they are transferred to adult boarding schools and there are already many of our children. they are in different we are doing. they are still children for us, and i , well, plan that when the house is completed, then they will travel. leave the children's boarding school. and those who are already our guys in adults and there they can meet. they miss each other, they get used to when they live together, when you open, when a new series, well, i would like this year so well, then we will wait for an invitation to a housewarming party. let's take a break for a while, and tell our telegram channel, don't be silent. subscribe suggest guests. ask your questions. we are in touch. before as go on a trip they do not pack

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because when everything is there, liturgy is everything. well, then a person relaxes, but such a property is a person. well, says people start, maybe you should really pray. and yes , appreciate what they have, and that's a little bit like that. um, maybe people show up in this. eh, as always. well, you can say that there can be such a swamp, and everything is there, and when there was some kind of storm, when we discussed issues with you before recording the program, it was surprising for me to hear. uh, mother martha said that the priest whom we already mentioned several times during the protests and after they plunged and hanged and killed, that is, the people who do it they and just again we are talking about spiritual warfare about some kind of spiritual warfare. that 's why you can feel sorry for these people? well, they don’t feel sorry for us, often they are very people who, at one time, the priest helped after all. it is a sin when people, maybe some kind of throwing, could not understand the situation

, what was happening and somehow began to behave , someone left, someone stayed, but maybe they are a little on the other side. let's put it this way, yes, well, i felt that i have for these people, but there is no love. they, like the prodigal son , once returned to their fatherland, that's all our brothers are our sisters. well it's a strange feeling to catch yourself with a lack of empathy for people. yes, especially there in your status. i thought it was a sin. i live by smell. where, god, i want to live behind god, yes, but there is warming , which must be fought, but this is the most important thing in our life, you know the case when the twentieth year influenced, on the contrary, so a person turned to god and came to to you. i think such cases are due to some such contrast , this is the storm that is happening in the world and the silence that monasteries, that is, in our this time it was the monastery that did not have a storm. we had some life. i'll tell

you more, but not that joyful, well, light or something, but during these twentieth year there. eh, constantly every day they read the akathist to the mother of god, that is, on the contrary, the prayer, probably, intensified. this means that god is close. and for some reason, this time is remembered as bright, that test, which there is a lot of information on the internet. i read that people of different faiths and different confessions also came during the protests to monasteries during the time of david and spoke like this to you here fine. it's so good this year at christmas on january 7, is it all or what kind of soviet did he make an impression on you? i would say yes, what is it. well man, maybe you can say, well informal. such and he really loves the country and the people in a paternal way, you can say it applies to it, and this is the most important thing. no. no, it was the parishioners who were waiting for them shaking hands there. yes, as a side

a little bit in these photographs. i notice how, uh, the president himself looks great in general, this whole event and statues and sisters, probably, yes. we have watered information like that, we don't have any kind of police. we are your assembly. we have a meeting where we usually talk about the spiritual body on the topic of our relationship. yes, on the topic of our say life. sometimes it costs something, sometimes, as if we need to know something to understand, but more often still . but there came, probably, the moment when, because, well, politics has firmly entered our lives. and uh, i want to tell your story. you told it, and it is very revealing . this story from your youth when, again, you were not involved and were not interested in politics.

this story is connected with the bc-bography, which you kindly provided us. tell this story of the ninety-sixth year. she did n't do anything to me. i wasn't even interested in politics. i drew all day long and this was my happy life, and then you, as a student, somehow found your fantasy. well, always express yourself, maybe, and yes, one teacher came to our group. he says that who would like to participate in this way to do it. well, in memory of chernobyl, some kind of action, and that they will give money for materials, and i’m so it ’s chernobyl memorial day, and yes, and she had such an idea, some kind of idea made such a bird. so, well, such a black bird and all the same masks. well, it was like a symbol of chernobyl for me inside in this bird ashka was domiciling and we first went. simply, medieval plague associations. cause your happened but it was interesting you know when

you do something. eh, we all somehow sat there. it was all glued on. it will be joyful. yes, and there was this procession. i don’t even know it now, by the way, i read that something happened was the chernobyl way i didn’t even know something is called uh-huh well, we went with everyone and went, and then i look, there is not far from our surrounded youth. it's already late. that's how we came , the teacher said, let's participate. that is, you are simply in performance. we will give money for materials. this to what methods opposition. they haven't changed in decades. that is, the young creative we are stronger for me and it was very easy to influence them, yes. only she cursed, but at least that's important too in 1996, yes. it was really very important on the site of your monastery. there is a heading, donbass stories, and, uh, there is also a video of the pre-war period before the beginning of its own

relationship in two bases. god thank you. help okay. it doesn't matter how it is, well, you don't get baptized, of course not. well, how extra once there to run across somewhere there, the lord god answers you very badly very many. who have been there they say in this strange place. here is the feeling of life of the inhabitants, yes, and their confidence that they should stay and live to get used to this environment. well, that is, what leads them, what their hands are, what motivates them is completely incomprehensible to me, this moment quickly. there is a tree, i hug. the dog hugged him. and now only a tree, hugging, the dog is dead, do not hide. i don't have basements. i go out, and it's already easier for me when i'm like this i’ll hug a tree, so i’m standing near it and i’m standing and praying and saying, lord, bring

death past me, which i’m not worthy yet, i’m not ready yet. well, i think that you are also discussing these questions from the priest. that is why, if there is a god, yes, this is the most common , again, for some reason it is necessary, but i think that thanks to this, a lot began to change in the minds of people. probably, people began to realize themselves, some kind of roots. this new generation, which is brought up, did not forget about its roots. this is probably the most important self-consciousness of the people, probably, and some kind of repentance. i think i'm not a politician. i have no right to talk about it. i can just say that again they begin to understand that

this is a spiritual war and why they don’t fight. hmm , that’s what victory is for us. hmm, probably, people stay there, because this is their homeland. and there is a wolf, but here is the self-consciousness of the loss of life. yeah blood pain fear. we do not choose, but we accept what god gives her. we pray, of course, but for peace, for god's peace, uh, for our peoples well our fraternal peoples, perhaps for this , again, everything was allowed for us to understand this. each of us has some kind of close friends, both on this and on the other side. that is, we are brothers, but one of our brothers. he does not want in ours what to think yeah, to understand something, we must think, but not accept. everything is just on faith that you have all the information that comes to you. eh, somehow think to reason, but your

father echoes our guests who we have recently svetlana was in your situation, which has developed around the ukrainian orthodox church as a whole. and kiev pechora lavra, in particular the assault. kiev pechersk lavra. it's, well, generally christian, probably, to trust that everything is under control of god. we pray that mothers will pray. yes, but if it happens, then this one is also somehow allowed by god for something , so that maybe something needs to be understood, you can pray even more to believe again that nothing is accidental in life. sometimes, he says that god controls everything. and probably, if uh so that's always about it think, then maybe there will be no such internal panic. uh, well, pray and understand that god controls everything anyway, but we are connected with this shrine, when we tried to cure the relics from there and nothing happened, but god

will arrange everything, probably, there are such e well, then a little more practical topic. a question. uh, after the events, and after the beginning, they are, uh, in your monastery. i have seen many. who lived there temporarily or not temporarily, i don’t know for sure, and we very happily talked together there, i remember, father with one mother came. she cooked ukrainian borscht for us. it was very delicious praying. ah, monasteries. now there will be such an international festival of our own, and now it was already vera, the first such festival already passed to us. children fled from the neck and came from siberia. ah sponsored. this is alexey talaev, he and his children were crying and those who were present at this concert. i think it's very cool. and if someone here wants to find an overnight stay there for a couple of nights, one of the refugees or something else, you can do that. i think,

yes, yes, we are discussing with us. well, you probably there is that's what victoria asks exactly for the night, if for refugees, then, probably, it means, then well, just stay for the night. uh, no money, because you have such a special monastery. yes, who are the pilgrims or those who, let's assume that's the number and stop for a member of the blessing. and we will not interrupt for a long time, i remind you, we have a telegram channel. say do not be silent, subscribe ask questions and suggest guests we are in touch. bright erudite belarusians, we work together in the construction industry, therefore today we will not build, we will answer the question correctly, using all our knowledge. they will try to reach for their dream of an honorary title with the correct answer on the seven hills, the correct answers bring points to the team's piggy bank, and for the wrong

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