their passion and hobby - this is their favorite work. you know this, that's when you start to breathe with full breasts, and not in half-diaphragm of us. this is when the time is in real time, that is, nothing needs to be invented. you can just immerse yourself like this on your own, in principle, this is our job to create beauty. uh, comfort and some interesting details to add our heroes want to share their stories when i had little experience. i had no idea that the flowers needed to be dried and my first product. i did it in my dacha. she just took the flowers , plucked them from the flower bed and dipped them in resin and could not understand why they turn black, and they will also be happy to tell you some of the secrets of their professions. stop practically not pulled off, that is, at the moment when you

are working at the moment when you expend your resources. at the same moment. you drop them, and the need for rest. no from the word at all, see the belarusian project. on belarus 24 tv channel we sew away skin day, millions of emotions. we can to rejoice, to be angry, to be angry, to think with horror, our emotions, they don’t bend us, but music , showing our emotions, emotions. these emotions will choke us and have already spent, that we have me, we become the non-voluminous paul of our life of music.

music the crowd, all of it went to the left. and, well, we have about 40 people there. we went to the right, who was already walking along the sidewalk, because

there was no place to turn before, we ended up in the crowd in august of the twentieth year. i understand that you realized that it is not on your way with her. well, it was sunday. i was either in the old mainstream there on the banks of the meaning read in the singing fountains. dinner went up in the car. everything is covered. that's purely sporting interest. i came up here along komsomolskaya street. well , as if i saw all this wonderful crowd upwards, i wanted, as it were, to go around and return to the car, the crowd picked me up, and she turned me around. here is literally here is a traffic light and continued. well, i was with the crowd along the way 500 meters. here. i haven't seen any constructive vine. let's break it all down. let's all destroyed. let's go straight to europe and i'll tell you. honestly, what i had one very mercantile thought, if we go to europe then tomorrow, i'm unemployed business. i don't have my people without work, family without a piece of bread, wait, we

will join the european union, your salary will be 4,000 euros or 2,000 euros there. i have entered many times in my life. sometimes i even joined here happens. you know, you can also join such fields in meadows, so for me the european union is not a panacea, and i understood that this business would die, moreover, i did not see a single country in which the economy would not be destroyed. so it's unemployment. these are people without jobs. these are people without a salary, how will i do business, with whom will i do it? i often hear of certain forces that, ah, they strongly push this point of view that it is very difficult to do business in belarus. as far as i understand, you have been doing business in belarus for 30 years, what do you think about this, you know, i also hear such statements from time to time. what is accepted there, you can do business in the west, that it is impossible to do business here, well, a direct lively answer is our company. it has been in existence for 28 years. she engaged in the same activity. she works. nobody touches her. nobody

interferes. yes, we are being tested. yes, we are facing some challenges. major crises took place there in 1998. and in 2008, in the eleventh year, there were crises that affected us, because these were our crises. but these were crises brought from somewhere, but we went through them and went through them, including with the help of the state, which at that moment helped us to do business, deferred some tax payments , provided some tax benefits, given the type of activity that we are engaged in, for example, look at how much private companies are working. well, in general, in principle , not a single company has moved out in our building for 10 years, and everyone here is now four floors, four floors, four floors, a business center, not a single company has left. and this despite the fact that we are there, well, not in the center of the city, we are there in the village in the queen's camp, remember august of the twentieth. here you did not have the feeling that the majority of the protesters came out on the street. well, there was absolutely no such feeling, because

the majority could not get out. i saw how many cars drive how many people walk? how many people in the stores most were there and therefore there was absolutely no feeling that most of it went out. it didn't feel it. well, it was a crowd. yes, there was a crowd, but the fact that it was not the majority. it's just obvious that i was stung at that moment by the fact that, and the people who came out, they said that they would help us on the road with the west abroad. you as a businessman sharing this point of view abroad will help us, for example, in terms of doing business there. i think that they will never help us abroad. especially from a business point of view , business that is carried out abroad. and the politics they pursue. let's look at the historical post-soviet countries of the soviet bloc countries that entered the european union. i have not seen a single country in which the west would not destroy the entire industry, which were simple examples,

where are the latvian rafiks, where are the vyfs, where is their electronic industry that was in in latvia, there are hundreds of enterprises that simply collapsed, which simply closed everything is closed, because they have their own overproduction and the only goal is to destroy competition. yes, and it is necessary to bring their products to the market, and people who lose their jobs are used as cheap labor in their enterprises. nobody needs our business there. they have their business competitors. they won't let go. you know, it might seem grandiloquent there, or it might seem somehow there? uh, well, how would it be to put it mildly, deceitful patriotic. i do not collect my mind and my brains to sell my knowledge and skills to someone else's uncle. our children are born here. my grandchildren live here. i am my knowledge. i want to give them. they are handing them over to someone who will end up using them against my country. alexander valerievich i have been in many director's offices, but i have never seen

three portraits of iosif vissarionovich vladimir ilyich alexander grigorievich why such a combination? well, everything is very simple. i am very good in my youth studied marxism-leninism and studied labor very well. vladimir ilyich lenin's role of personality in history these are three personalities who played a huge role in the history of the soviet union vladimir ilyich and iosif vissarionovich and the man who made our country, i'm not afraid of this word, because 30 years of our independence are associated with his name. this is a key person in the history of our belarus. and you belong to some political movement, how would you characterize yourself from this point of view. actually, i was born in the soviet union and i am soviet to the core. human. soviet man. in general, i consider it a majestic tragedy of the 20th century. this is the collapse of such a powerful federal state. what was the soviet union like? i don't know how it happened, who allowed it? well, this was unacceptable. i still consider

myself a member of the communist party of the soviet union and. well, as if i try to live according to the principles that were laid down. you are not a member of modern parties, modern parties. i am not. they are a medical card of the cpsu, and someone would want to prick you and say so, well, here is a member of the communist the party retained a membership card while doing business. eh, the capitalist agreed. no , of course, i didn’t agree, because you can run a business capitalistically by putting money in your pocket. and you can run a business taking into account the social justice that exists, you need to think about those people who work here and do not put all the money in their pocket, that is, of course, this is a tax burden - this is one side of the social burden not only for you, but also for your employees. this is the other side. for me it is for example law. that is, i do not put my pocket, for example, of course i do not forget it, but i do not put it. the first place regarding these people who work with me and in general

between socialism and capitalism. in my opinion, there is no significant difference in the sense that everything in the economy is built on surplus value, the whole question. where does the surplus value go under socialism ? it goes to the development of the state under capitalism. it goes mainly after paying, of course, huge crazy taxes. she lies in the pocket, well, the owner of this business. that's all the difference. you are the leader. you have a team of people for whom you are responsible, and in the twentieth year, how many did not coincide in terms of e, views with you from your team, in general, i have no turnover in the team, in the twentieth year. we didn't have layoffs. people asked me questions. what 's going on what's going on in the street, and i just explained to people that guys, if we go this way, then we'll go in 2 months, we won't have no business. we won't have a business, and you won't. this path is not for us or we worked, we did not have a single day of downtime

and i am very glad that my people did not participate in these here. well, how to call destructive actions, or something, they did not go out into the street, they did not engage in political activities, they were engaged in daily work. that was the most important moment for me. this was the most important for me, and the result , including mine. if you can, so to speak, watered the information that was conveyed when i conveyed to people what is happening in general and where can we go if we suddenly turn around behind the crowd or turn in, it was not the crowd that was scary, it was what happened inside these headquarters, which gathered this crowd, which, well, kind of stupefied people and with their false calls, well, they didn’t force them, but they took people out into the street, therefore it was scary activity there behind the back of this crowd crowd. it was for weeks, there 2-3-4 tyk it became less and less lived less you understood where they

were going to people, probably, people also explained that they understood that this was a road to nowhere. why do you think some of the youth belarusian, she feels akin to the views that are being propagated by these crowds of these begals. we must return to history, there is youth. that part of the youth that feels akin to europe, it has been growing up in the last 20 years, and at the age of 5 and 10 has not yet seen that, i’m not afraid to say , the devastation of that hunger and those troubles that were in our country in the nineties after the collapse of the soviet union they did not know what the country's leadership and the president personally did to ensure that this country was such as they saw it in the twentieth year and decided that europe did it all in my opinion. maybe i'm wrong, but it seems to me that this is the point and we must do it and so they yes, they are ready, we want

to move such moods are heard. we want to work in germany first you will work for someone else's uncle no one will give him high money there. and if they later tell you the truth that out of the four thousand euros that you will be paid there, you will give two and a half or three to utilities for taxes same taxes and e. heat, light, electricity, then you will realize that you have even less to live on than what remains. here. this is what our youth should understand, and therefore , it seems to me, it all proceeded from the fact that they were already in the tenth in the fifteenth year, when they began to think something, they got into a sweet life. and this sweet life they have formed an association, and most likely, they were, of course, warmed up by the internet , most likely, some sources of information were warmed up that it was all done by europe, that it was done, not our country, that people did not find it, and today you say that we have a lack of something, this is a deep , deepest mistake. and i think that

this is where they played with the youth, because in this crowd that i saw those people who were older, there are 50-60 years old. first turn to the right these people turned away. i saw these 30-40 people there, who immediately left the crowd and the youth went on. and here we need to work with them and explain to the difficult generation. explain that who will pay the pension to your parents, after all your parents helped you learn your parents often help you with housing your parents help you get a job somewhere. using your connections. if you leave the country, who will help your parents, who will earn a pension when your parents grow old, we have a mentality, probably, our slavic mentality is good, we help children in their youth and expect that when we if we are old , we will not be handed over to a nursing home and will help us, as it were, to live out our weight. and if you leave how will you live, where will your parents live? you thought about it, because at the age of 50 no one in the west needs your parents

, no one needs them here in their country. how do you feel about such an instrument as sanctions, this is such an economic pressure on us, but in fact, to something. here the west is forcing through sanctions. you somehow evaluate. you know, i love old soviet films very much. so in the movie beware of the car in the final scene in the court of the victim of the theft of his volga said a wonderful phrase, which is very good approaches the sanctions that are applied against our country. that's what he said, it's banditry from the highway, i can't call these sanctions anything else. you sold us cars; you earned money from us ; you sold cars. you are very much, and you supply spare parts to them. you do not want. well, maybe he won't come back. you will give us money for these cars and you will take this rubbish to yourself and will spend money on their disposal, and we will not spend this money. or do we

need airplanes, now we can ride a cart, fly on a broom, because you decided not to deliver spare parts for cars and planes you have already sold, and medical equipment, where are these, where is simple human ethics. how to do business with you? what kind of business do you recommend us to do you recommend us to do, of course, well, yes, here they show us an example, so is this really a business. this is no longer a business. this is fraud on a large scale, and i can’t call it anything else, how do you generally feel about the policy of the fugitives. they are going to do something there , some combat detachments to do and send here. well to this, well how to say, people left the country. people leave the country for various reasons. well, someone marries someone marries these left the country because they want to make war in their own country. but this is

not normal. it's not just abnormal. well , i think that it is, well, there are such diagnoses, probably medical ones, that doctors have to diagnose this comrade who is running away. here they go. they meet there in the village with different leaders in different states. they ask to punish our country and our people. well, what, you drive, you drive and say who you are punishing. this is how you punish ordinary people, their simple ordinary ordinary people, to whom you did nothing before your policy, they need to go to work, earn money, get a salary and feed their families. and the fact that the militants are preparing. well, well, there's one answer. well, they will come, well, destroy them. and if anything, you are ready to take up arms and defend the country. i'm actually ready today. i can. i'm actually a reserve officer of the armed forces of the ussr and something i can do and if necessary, well , of course, with my health , i can’t jump through the trenches, i can’t not have enough health. but as for, if you need to protect your

country at any moment, and this is a normal duty. this is the normal upbringing of any soviet person and any person who has been living independently for 30 years. even we have received real independence for the first time and we will defend it. we are inseparable from this nowhere. of course, i really believe in the wisdom of our president and the wisdom of our leadership that will not allow this situation and not in vain we have strengthened. here, under the leadership of our, well, law enforcement agencies and our president. again, it was not in vain that we strengthened our armed forces. i think they will be able to protect us at some point. and we, if necessary, will not help him, the current moment, which is the most important thing for belarus for a belarusian. we must not allow a split in our society. well, maybe someone somewhere got sick, someone boiled something, but we must forget and at this moment in my opinion. the most important thing is unity. if we let us be united, we are not victorious. for me

, this is the unity and the second point is very important. we have to keep our economies going. yes, times are tough. yes, maybe some internal product is falling somewhere. well, we have to work. we must work and must, if they do not break us economically, then they will not break us in any way . these are the two components that are most important. in my opinion, for ordinary people. for us, it’s not for politicians or for generals, not for some high-ranking officials to come to work, where in touch all this is the task of business. this is the task of state enterprises, and the task of politicians and the task of the leadership of our president from threatening us from these things that can come to our earth will need to be helped.

hello, i'm evgeniy sentinel political columnist stv presenter and author of the program politician without ties and cuts. and today we will talk about the future of belarus and how to preserve our belarusian statehood. and victoria popova and today our colleague evgeny pustovoi is our guest. hello evgeny, we recently

met last week in a minibus. this is not a joke , they said that people need to be reconciled, what did you mean by that, what kind of reconciliation are you talking about reconciliation of those who agree, because there are political programs for the belarusian rebellion. or there was no such break. just laziness, the desire to be, like everyone else shakes hands , envy - it's all hyperpolized and splashed it all out on the streets. but if i hope these years have shown who is the boss in europe, yes, and therefore you need to understand to take your head in your hands too and put up with it, well politicized the situation, that e everyone is ready to argue for some time, enough, enough, guys. yes, belarus is the president, there is all of us and there is to our border the border of the permitted border of the development of mankind and biblical

humanity. there is our sovereign border of this worthy area. we will develop, but develop, feeling each other's shoulder. see, everyone will have their own opinion. well , there was and will be, but this is not a reason to swear and beat the muzzle. yes, it is necessary to reconcile everyone and everywhere and those who want to return home. we ask your parents for mercy, but let's just blow up trains without the desire. uh, ah, grodno azot and in general, set fire to our home, our hut, but the recipe. i understand you have to turn the page, he old president said turn the page a long time ago, listen a. well, like us now and you, too , probably, you, too, are in this payback of propaganda state words are good propaganda must be understood as one of the building of the opposition propaganda show you know you propaganda show yes, well, you are not only about politics in general about

life in belarus, the police in a sincere way. you tell belarus recipes recipe. yes , one, two, three, you must understand that the house is your house. and if you put things in order for me, or uh, then no one will put things in order, if you destroy it, they will help you to destroy it. first and second, you need to be able to forgive. e. and the third reconciliation - it's very important to know, mm recently a good priest a good phrase. he told me, he says, the church is where the points of reconciliation are found. let's find the points reconciliation, and then we’ll have time to cool down and we’ll think that vitov is a hero for us or not a hero, you understand, and now the main thing is to look not only at each other, but also in one direction, you know what to include facebook here because these are the holidays there were lingering ones, yes, and i, like many others , was distracted by family problems , returning, and nothing changes there, the degree of hatred only rises. that is why it is difficult to talk about reconciliation. here in

such a community. you know that there is someone who inflates this degree of hatred. well, those who doesn’t like that in belarus it’s like this in ukraine, and in belarus it’s like this in europe , but in belarus, it’s not our friends and not our partners. these are our enemies. it doesn't matter what passport he had. if so, what is his nationality. if, figuratively speaking, you start to drive a wedge into the belarusians, call everyone to the square now, not to the square. now they are calling to take up arms and hang everyone in a row and so on. these are people either for money or otherwise. well, radical terrorists are ideological political maniacs. well, and how to deal with them? so you say, you need to reconcile to cool down. here's how you can reconcile with them, if they don't want to cool down, they don't want to, listen to our hand. eh, so hand. eh, we extend friendships to everyone, but we never turn our backs on them. that's all. well, let them sit there in their boats, and again be rude, shout, threaten to write

the same thing, and here we will continue to build our state and one more recipe. it seems to me that friendship is stretched on our backs, we don’t turn around and say this to evgeny for sure very true, because nothing infuriates them more than the fact that everything is working out for us. well , we're not to infuriate them, but to our children. it was good, they can then join. i say, there are ideological ones and there are misguided ones. and there are already, well, real collaborators. well, they were, as it were, i will quote our president. there were those who immediately picked up a machine gun or a mosin rifle but put on a kolobran bandage on themselves, but there were, but this was in our history and everyone has their own ancestors. everyone has their roots if fellow journalists want to return to the stv channel, those who left, and now your kindly extended hand shakes. you are ready to work with them. well, thank god it's a solution. i guide them to this leader to

make such managerial decisions. you see, there is. eh, if a person repented sincerely repented, only of course. it is necessary to forgive him, because we are all sinners, yes, and how we will treat such we will be treated e but if he repented, if he is this person , well, not two-faced. don't change again armchair, but it seems to me that they themselves will not return, because, well, firstly, it’s a shame, and secondly, they haven’t sold out, and there , you know, the apostle peter i and judas alone hanged themselves the second the second repented, but who of them who? let them choose uh-huh but on the other hand, peter was needed and the morning for the movement of history agreed, yes, and the twentieth year was needed on and for purification, listen to the imf. i remember how the president constantly covered the activities of the head of state. i remember at these meetings how he constantly defended the interests of

people, socially oriented states in our country. and the mf will come and smile. well , we will give you a tranche of credit, but to do this, raise the communal apartment, lower pensions, and so on and so forth, draconian methods are further. well, we all say, i'm already tired of sore throat. i don't want to remember them sunu. and well, that's right. this is a gender philosophy, as it was imposed at school, right? further from kindergarten, plus a lot of hunting for carcasses of batik tires, belarus batik tires turn out to be. what did they do, they went and checked our military facilities under the uh guise of being uh watching nature. yes, yes, i'm kind of in the carcass, but no one has said. and listen more, where is greta tumblr , where is the osce, where is all nature , when the council of europe’s protective organizations, right in the very center, in the very heart of europe’s most childhood forest , took and laid a new berlin wall. this is it really. berlin

big animals are killed daily, and nobody cared about it. well, that's what democracy is. this should also make people a little more reasonable, the more ngos and the more such charitable organizations. uh, the more often the country goes tartars. yes, even remember what happened in georgia. ah, the law on foreigners keeps wringing the hands of democracy to the desire of the people, so that there are no foreign agents wringing the hands of the parliament. and why don’t they let, say, the union of orthodox journalists in washington to sit somewhere there or there, let’s say some belarusian diaspora, which really will, uh, at the base. mii up created. let us, too, will, well, integrate. they wanted the integration of globalization. this globalization has been therefore the twentieth year you know us so. eh, as they say lightening. e, hmm , he slapped his cheeks on his cheeks, and you know, we woke up, because, of course, we moistened it all, his

consent of ours developed. yes, after all, i don’t agree with the silent ones, but faith is our faith in good europe and that’s it, and evgenia has her own program , the author’s program, the policy of bras and banknotes. you've been a host on stv since 2020 and i'd like to ask if you're tired, but judging even by the rhetoric we hear in our studio. you are not tired, i will not get tired of getting up going to. i am ready to upgrade this and that , and there are different ideas and there are socio-historical ones, for example, projects and that’s it, but the fact is that i live in the regime of covering the activities of the head of state. this is the main thing, here, and hmm, our president is very active. if there is time, i will create something new products. the main thing is to convey to belarusians how, uh, dad takes care of his children. and you know this is a breeze. just. there is an opinion that the president also became more active after the twentieth year. here you are with him all the time. can confirm. you know that yes he and he

was active remains active and will be active. we just reported badly until the twentieth year was licked. everything, well, with too tolerant uh-huh but this lacked this sharpness, we wanted to attract the attention of those who looked to the west as an absolute development, but lost it. well, not that they lost, but somehow drowned out the initiative of those who consider themselves to be an eastern civilization , a civilization of the slavic world, a civilization. i'm not afraid of the word of the russian world, because the president put all the dots on this message, russian, including ours, that belarusians did not participate in the construction of st. petersburg ; belarusians did not participate in the construction of the railway; uh, well, in the storming of the arrest, the russian was also ours, and you know the belarusians that they did not participate in the creation of, uh, russian statehood, but at the same

time, with one hand we are for the russian world, and with the other , uh, with the latin alphabet in the city, yes throughout local and everything, probably vectorial. well, yes, someone introduced the latin alphabet. yes, the latin alphabet was in history, and our lands were in the latin alphabet , but let's remember this topic, people are already very worried about the soreness and the president paid attention, even before recording , we were told on the sidelines that it was suitable for you. yes, we recently asked why you are an idiot not dealing with such an important issue. look, uh, in the beginning there was a word and there was a word. uh, god, and god had a word. yes , everything begins with a word. yes, still on we believed in communism socialism until they started showing us other films of the slave from the aura, and then they themselves became slaves, er, of the anglo-saxon world. yes, therefore, when we see every day, uh, anglicism on the street, we first begin to read, then think like them, and we have our

own cyrillic alphabet. uh, we have our own listen to the name on this to bring up children, that is, not on jeans. and if these are jeans, then let them be linen, sewn at the arshan, but combine. uh, so you are against the latin alphabet, you know that i wrote an article about it, and i said that i am against the latin alphabet, when it is imposed and when the belarusian people are against it, well, part of the belarusian people, for some reason they like it, some do not like it. well, you know what annoys me and why everyone switched to the latin alphabet. e. those who betrayed our statehood, that's where you sit more and all their avatars in latin why. and i 'll tell you? why, because the latin alphabet became the language of the commonwealth, and the thing was speech, the commonwealth, it was well, the forced colonization of our belarusian-sim then the concept of the word belarusian, if maybe there was not, but it was hereditary for the colonization of our people, but

more catholic, and so on and so on and so on. we kohl said the speech of the commonwealth. you know, now even the poles are worried, the poles are worried that the current authorities in warsaw want to revive the commonwealth's tin from the can. maybe why well, we know that in order to shut off the oxygen to russia yes, this is an anaconda project around russia from the point of instability and so on, plus join forces. forgive me, endangered baltic emirates, as they are called, labor resources left for europe, ukraine and poland, and well, kolis for toric justice. how much have you been taught what? it was e. way and so on and so forth. we do not refuse the gentry. well, the one that served the interest of our statehood, and there are not enough grooves in this. only belarus is a historical opportunity to take the lands of belarus and attach them under the patronage of warsaw, and just a week or two ago, zelensky and i

talked about this about creating a confederation , but the poles, ordinary poles do not want their taxes. buying weapons okay , zelensky is the one who pursues the interests of bandera, who well, it's just that the poles did not forget the volyn massacre, but for them it was a discovery, according to you. it seemed to me that this was such a very long-standing narrative that maybe, and my husband, and i still remember myself as a student in the nineties in poland and rushed about it. there are already covered for anyone it was not a discovery. well, it's just, well, you know, it's one thing to have geopolitical ambitions and feel like a patron. it's another matter for us to give away our hard-earned money. e to war with russia a. after if well, turn into anti-russia, it means, then, in any case, after 20 after 30, i don’t know when well, to fight with russia, and the poles don’t really want to fight ordinary people with

this policy all the time, yes, it’s with the current government and many poles are against and against construction. uh, the so-called this fence and against the fact that uh hmm zelensky is coming. in the center of warsaw, bandera slogans are shouting and against the fact that duda , uh, well, in general, serves me the interest of the polish people, the interest of not even the american people of a certain, uh, top establishment. the influx of the west played a role here. yes ukrainian. uh, refugees too yes , nothing, so no, it cuts how to live under one roof. uh, the most inexpensive, probably, the influx of the influx of belarusian uh of our wrestlers. i recently talked with one political figure or from poland, he said so and says, god, how can this be, how can you betray your homeland. they consider them traitors there; ordinary poles consider traitors those who defected here, and so on. well, they all just thought that you know

europe will come and wash the street with shampoo for us, when europe came to us. i'll tell you what it was. let's remember the history of melnikay street, this is, uh, there is a woman who was somewhere young. nye a prisoner in my opinion, she said, then the hands of a river of blood flowed. that's what europe brings there, well, not to say that all europeans, well, european politics - that's for sure. and he also go to khatyn. here is the current director of the khatyn memorial, it seems to me that he did. well, the work of a lifetime is the khatyn memorial and the khatyn museum, just take a walk, there is a chapel and a temple. i am, this is historical justice there, uh, you know, this temple is. eh, such a chamber one, such a belarusian, such a little one, but that's it, in such temples they locked our ancestors , burned them all, that is, they burned not only our people. well, they burned it. uh-huh symbol of development. what we sat on, because

it is possible to kill a person, but to glamorize his spirit is what we see now in or in ukraine . we have already talked about narrative. since we are talking about narratives. we recently visited yuri in voskresensky and said that the narrative of 23 years in belarus as long as there is no war. let's listen. in the twenty-third year, it is completely different due to the geopolitical situation, the narrative of 23 years will not fit in, not get involved in hostilities, and provocations will be western from all sides from the side of love. and in general, be content with little. no, the emphasis now should be precisely on the measure of the beloved policy of belarus, and all the responsible bodies of state power at all possible platforms are talking about the peace initiative of belarus, including in time recent visit to hungary by our minister

of foreign affairs. well, look, yura, the first part of your book is devoted to the fact that you need to lift the pan into the lid to release steam. yes, a famous image. now you say that the cap is better. let it lie, because around the world to blaze, but we have elections soon on our twenty-fourth year. well we have in this pan now. a couple no , because everyone is no longer boiling the pot, and everyone is looking out the window and looking, as if there were no war. i am on your side. president e, in in general, kohl such images. let's talk about the first pot, uh, the pan is on gas, gas for us is the cheapest in europe, someone 's merit is the merit of our singles. there is no further steam in the pan. the scale remains, and if, well, people who think, let's say they are yes

, so that there is no war and we must do so and so. well, there are those who we are aggressors, but ukraine must be helped here. and how to die for her? you see, this is scale, this is scale, which is still there. uh, somewhere many political or historical it is a breakdown. these are all those who wind up talking to the commonwealth, they believe that ukraine is not aggression. and the fact that zelensky saves his people. here, and this is the main thing now. well, we don't have pans, we have a whole hour. we have a full bowl. let's, let's say our names often, well , somehow everything has been lately. look at the last two years. uh, embarrassed to say that we live well. yes, we live very well. uh, here's the euro. so europe has slipped. so, as we were at that level, we remained. we have less scooters around the city or have we have fewer cars, the drivers have switched to public transport, or we have fewer traffic jams during the friday before the weekend. yes, everyone goes to the barbecue. yes, it is clear that

somewhere they live less. eh, let's say it's rich. yes , somewhere, well, everywhere. eh, there is such a spread in any state, but we have a delta of economic stability, where the richest 10% and the poorest 10% have it very reduced. and we have these underprivileged people. they don't stand out from the crowd. do you understand how it's done in america? there are millions below the poverty line, if you compare the number hmm of those millions below the poverty line in the united states well, the fruit of stability, and those, uh, the meager number of people who stand at our temples are asking for money another question. what are they for? why don't you work? by the way, 2 rubles. - it is not enough. we will win this comparison. understand that we will win, and no matter how much we would like to hear that we are worse than europe no, we are better and we are europe and it will focus on us. here are the events of the twentieth year. i mean washed middle class a few pro middle class ah.

well, yes, i'll tell you what the middle class is. i just now have a very good test conversation, the initiative of the president also drew attention, and we go to communicate with young people with voters and grandmothers. nothing needs to be explained to military pensioners either. nothing needs to be explained, yes, and those who are 50 years old. you don't need to explain anything either. they know how to think, they studied logic from soviet textbooks. you see, therefore it has to think and analyze. and we're talking about the youth tell the guy well why u us uh hmm the roads are not all well maintained. and why do entrepreneurs have such high taxes, or what do you do? i have my own business, but i have been the business of my parents. what do you do? well, traders. i say what kind of tax i say 20%, that is, you say you bought a margin, sold it, and you still want less taxes. find out what taxes are in sweden. and now i'm on the roads you want less tax but better roads. well , it doesn’t happen that you can’t fry three eggs, uh,

four eggs, yes, it won’t, and as for the roads , the president, grodno is already an order. yes, here bring all the roads in order this year, while we will make cheap bitumen, and given our dictatorship, discipline. ah, the dictatorship of technology. i think everything will be done . there will be good taxes. there will be analogues, if and to whom you listen to europe, the progressive tax scale, the more you earn, the more you share. well, in order to avoid this social stratification. and hmm the middle class remained. are you not the middle class, and we , you look at the cars, such as our test conversations after a short pause. and i i remind you, we have a telegram channel, say, do not be silent. subscribe to ask questions. suggest guests we are in touch. on the air program, say, do not be silent, and he is our guest , tv journalist evgeny guard. we will continue our fascinating conversation about the middle class. i was specifically interested in pt

, that is, there is a lot of talk now everywhere about the fact that our it specialists left, on which we staked at one time, what do you say about this it specialists, we are used to sharing foreigners. yes, belarus, i said, let's get together, eh she is it people and they say they left. this is such a modern branch of development. and now 10,000 it people left this council of deputies. at the moment, these words have been voiced. eh, the yanchen president recently had a meeting and the head of state, who, no matter how vilified by these it people who left, and it was not the it people who left, but the traitors who left. let's call everything by its real name . it's more like an office says. losing a job, that is, you see, again, not politics, but just money 30 rows not 30. let each he decides, but money, not politics. uh, so someone left, but the business industry remained.

this is the most important thing, because we have been training it specialists since kindergarten, but with this it is necessary to train them as a patriot and dishonestly said very well that there is very good profitability, very high profitability, and we find opportunities and so on, and the head of state again gave them preferences , that is , our president is not vindictive, he thinks about belarus and the people. they think about their dinners, therefore, such an allegedly corrupt industry it specialists will develop again. but you know how they say that there is a fly in the ointment. uh, a halon of honey spoils the same thing. here are those who left, loudly said it did. maybe for this he received, of course, even more money and that's it, but you know, it people, what is the problem of it people, for them to become cosmopolitans , they need to be damn, for our economy and for our state, they are just where where you understand better, where where there is less taxes. i'm sure many of us are better off at home. where their families are, where their homes are, it's not bad here,

and we live a lot and well, you know, and we earn a lot of money and will create projects, but we are no longer outsourcing. and we will already, as it were, grow up to create the final product, and now there is a huge market in russia. money. they have it, because it’s not necessary everywhere, it’s good, they will give us, as it were, a product, but you remember this, comrade stalin, that it is necessary to close the borders for this, because they stop importing. you know that already again broken cars from the usa are brought to us, that's all. e south a now i remember from korea and saw juices in the store. well , that is, why not belarusian juices? well , why not belarusian bulba why not belarusian apples? listen a. i'll tell you why, because hmm, it is more profitable for traders or large retail chains to sell

imported goods there with a higher margin. in the same place, it depends , you just need to change the legislation somehow, so that it would be more profitable for them to sell belarusian , see. now the most realistic conditions. let's do homework. i think everything will change at once, this issue was discussed in this studio a variety of guests, ranging from representatives of the ministry of agriculture to deputies. everyone has their own opinion it is clear alexey economy. at least the product. as straight as a red carpet. eh, deputies there laws. yes , those who are retailers have their own interests, but the interests should be primarily for the state's economy, yes, tax revenue. well, for you and me, how to buy for the development of means of production , do you all understand what it is about? can we come up with a tax on the development of our own funds? production yes or innovation tax there 2%. why 2-3%, let's give 3% for the development of innovations ourselves and that's it. mm. well, if you bring something, pay something, there’s also a tax, let’s say for the development of belarusians, but

you need to understand warm baths or greenhouse conditions, for agrarians. this is how it was created here, well, it was created, well, the truth is, uh, and it is necessary that they also move somehow, otherwise everyone is used to it, like children to the father's hope. well come on you wanted powers, well the type of powers you wanted to change democracy. well, hold on, like, that's what the constitution guarantees. well, until the president broadcasts the seed network. somehow they are not used to it, listen, because and why do children not want to leave their parents and for 25 years an it specialist, figuratively speaking, has been sitting at the computer. mom brought a bowl of soup and put it away, and so, well, you need something like this. uh, the 20th year made us a little bit in order to finish the topic with our colleagues recently in this studio we discussed the issues of transition to the digital economy and digitalization issues and the idea was voiced that it people are also speed will disappear like specialists, because it is precisely the replacement before that you know that humanity has not

disappeared. like humanity, so that the neural network does not come to replace the figure. yes, that is pores it is beneficial. uh, as long as it benefits people , everything. yeah, and there already in the west. they are trying to adapt to this digitalization and generally adjust new normalities and create their own religion. that is, no religion at all. god it will be a figure and artificial intelligence. well, what does he think? well, he can't help but learn to love. well, since we're talking about religion. let's talk about traditional religion then. i know that you are a believer, yes, and what is happening in ukrainian churches and temples. we also discussed this with you , you perceive it as your personal pain. let's watch two short videos and continue. this is the capture of the intercession church in the kiev region. and

one more video. eugene religion, it is a powerful tool of war and politics agree agree. so, let's start with golden words from the old testament. they have chosen other people's idols from that, and the war is at the gates, when every time we prayed for western values, this war was approaching, you know, the father, the traditional parentage rejoices hmm easter orthodox catholic christmas. we didn't forget these holidays of ours, and we didn't all leave. e for hmm christmas christmas holidays drinking coffee and admiring the truth, which remained thanks to the soviet soldiers, you have not been erased from the face of the earth. well, that's another topic,

yes, and now about religion guards burning when some priests. god grant them health, wisdom, lamented blue. uh, body parts rebels and spoke. it's a sin. they didn't think of anything else. i say these are, you know what offensive. well, brzezinski refuses. now i say that after communism , the only enemy left is orthodoxy. here it is the bonds of our eastern or russian world, where belarusians, russian ukrainians, you understand, it was necessary to understand that when we heard the smell and saw the smell of gary odessa, there was already a smell there and their churches will also be burned, because this is what holds ukrainians together, not russian pop. as they say, and vera who came out of the font bought kievskaya there. and of course, where to beat the center, where did you come from? faith there it is necessary from nothing from the bottom, too, therefore, this is how

it does, and now the question is democracy. well , democracy is freedom of religion. yes, well, why then, uh, they just close all the orthodox churches. well why do people listen to this how it should be? the destroyer of his people, so that without asking for the interests of the west, uh, giving away land. uh, zahi haimars and javelins of the usual chopping of trunks to throw under a tornado and their parents. now they can't sing according to your orthodox rite. is it satanism, is it a mockery, is it or is it clowning, is it banter, when i don’t attribute, well, not a single speech on the topic of religion on the topic of national interests of ukraine to national dignity in the ninety-fifth quarter. i knew it wouldn't end well. right now. well, they put things in order, people see, but

they can’t do anything anymore, because the democratic zelensky chopped off all the freedoms , do you think so or not at all? yes? well and everything came on the wave of democracy, and this is a very good picture that should be solidified. all of our most humanistic priests would be so we don’t have belarus in a different way, it would be even worse for us, because we are smaller and because we have such a country, you know , ukraine is more heterogeneous there. yes , we have western eastern, belarus is very close-knit, that in brest, that in vitebsk, people appreciate may 9, as a holiday that unites everyone, it would be much worse from mushrooms. it seems to me that not only orthodox churches, mosques would also be burned, and i i do not know the synagogues remained, because belarus is the only country where we did not admire multiculturalism, where when everything is washed away. and we gave everyone the opportunity to develop, but in the world to come to grodno for the festival of national cultures. and

everything is clear there. here it is belarus or the whole ride, and best of all in minsk when they call back, e, the bells ring. e of the orthodox anonymy cathedral and answers this one, in my opinion, the costume of the most pure mary the virgin yes. uh, too and about a dilutes this melody, only you know the arrows, and minsky on the minsk city hall. in general, check your watch according to minsk time and gentlemen. so, what do you think, these religious races that are now in ukraine - can you already call it a civil war, or is it zelensky 's exclusively criminal policy? of the infernal world on the russians, our brothers on the slavs. that's it, it's just an offensive, 41. you can say it's a new forty-one year. it's just that now, uh , ukraine has become the territory of this proxy war.

new war proxy war and cauldron cauldron cauldron more more more destroy ukrainians. and when our president, well there's a chance to just sit down at the negotiating table for a peace process. here, just an easter truce, but the head of state spoke a message. everyone discussed and no one did anything, not russia, the aggressor, against these truces. no, such xi jinping called, called, talked, uh, zelensky then silence and a statement there is no war until the last ukrainian. well, well, because they have a counteroffensive plan, they have a plan destroy your people. that's what they have according to the plan eugene very accurately say i when i listen to them. eh, it reminds me of the relationship to the quarter, 95, they really look at what is happening, as nalchik does not look at their living people. and what songs are not being made now, what spiritual clips they are making. these same songs will remain, yes, to leave the memory of hatred. i don't know how many ukrainians

will remain, but leave hatred for russia well, that is, ukraine has become anti-russian. maidan was not dispersed. uh, the riot police turned out to be compassionate or just betray. well, betrayal, most likely, that's all. the same that we could have. history calms me down. eh, the orthodox religions have been all sorts of times and have already tried to destroy it. the time will come and it will come anyway realization , you understand, well, how many ukrainians will remain, the time will come, and how many ukrainians will remain we had vadim elfimov, a political scientist, visiting us. he said that in order for this awareness to happen, another generation of ukrainians must be born, that is, 30 we reconcile with them or the belarusians did not quarrel at all. let's not drag us into this conflict for someone. it's beneficial to be able to e again, uh hmm, relax yourself, but justify it in order to step on belorus- step on belaya for what to step on belarus for the fact that we fed the refugees,

warmed them, which the americans dropped from their planes. no, no, no, the public will not understand. why attack belarus for aggression against ukraine is simple. well, europe has not yet fallen so much to explain that oh, you are for the russians. oh you are for the world. well, then you need to bomb on you. wait, that's over there. hmm, beyond the western god. what's beyond the east? wherever our president iran africa china, you know what kind of bidens you meet they will not meet like that, no matter how he stumbles on his own, we saw your reports. it was fabulous. how did you meet the president the best dances the best cards about the counteroffensive of the apu. we understand that this is a long game. what experts in the expert community say about the possibility of an offensive is not rejected by all. however, few believe in the success of this venture, even western

analysts acknowledge that the decision to counterattack will further aggravate the situation of the ukrainian army. so , retired us army lieutenant colonel daniel davis believes that ukraine will face defeat even in the event of a successful apu offensive. according to him. ukraine is already at a critically low level of manpower and is having difficulty mobilizing additional troops in the course of ukraine's offensive, with the last remaining forces being used up to fight the washington post newspaper. recently. she reported that ukraine had already lost the vast majority trained and manned armies created before february 2022. with the support of nato , davies wrote in his op-ed for this photo, a former british intelligence officer and planner. nato phillip ingram in a column for adele's mail opined that the attempt of the ukrainian army to seize the crimea could turn into serious problems for ukraine if trying to seize the peninsula would have to fight for

every mile. at the same time, it should be borne in mind that the inhabitants of crimea are loyal to russia . the victory of the allied forces will not be guaranteed, even if this is the biggest company ever to take place predicts an expert in general. how many experts have so many opinions? and what is your forecast for evgeny? well, about the sous forecast, will it end? yes, just a question. e, when the awareness comes e. in the same place, not only zelensky, there are also military men, they are more sensible. yes, they should think about their fatherland. and in general, but about his face. yes, he says, the army died there. and these are someone's children , sons, husbands, therefore, civil warms up . you understand this, if ukraine explodes, we we know the emotional nation. well then , green is not enough. it seems that, firstly, ukraine can be divided and torn apart if they don’t stop acting like that, poland already travels there and looks after it, then other states. uh, the only thing is,

well, a year or two, another year or two, especially since ukrainians are talking about it. but it will be a year or two, you know. what is fraught with is not a meat grinder, but directly a whole combine that rewinds part of ukraine for men, that's all, and at a time when they are pushing our president to fight. denis was pushing recently. yes, i came for help and we are ready to help them rebuild. that is, as lukashenka said, it is true, but ukraine to ukraine we are driving a tractor not on a tank, well, not on a tractor, we will go on a construction crane. you see, that's all. this is the awareness of this people. this is according to ukrainian propaganda. it won't say of course on tv. yes, and in telegram channels they won’t write in ukrainians, he sees that if we were enemies and aggressors, so many refugees would not come to us.