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. hello, welcome to everyone who is with us now in the studio of olga lazurkina and oleg gaidukevich. greetings. well, later, our conversation with the american military expert

scott the writer, as it seems, the problem of peace from that side turned out very frankly, i immediately say that we recommend all the main processes from the same side of the atlantic, right indirectly today they run into the ukrainian front, a large-scale defense exercise has started, 23 experts unanimously. they say, expect provocations around transnistria, crimea and belarus, and this is the information that appears the other day, the newspaper lemon reports france refused to help ukraine with planning combat missions on the territory of belarus kiev requested a digital map of belarus in paris, this would allow ukrainian aircraft to fly over the country at ultra-low altitudes yet, according to lemon. kiev could plan the route and departures in advance, taking into account terrain, but france stated that they would not participate in ukraine's operations on the territory of other states. here is oleg sergeevich what do you think about this when you hear such plans of ukraine

i perfectly understand that this threatens with very serious provocations, which can lead not just as an escalation of the conflict in ukraine, but into drawing all of europe into this conflict, why did such a reaction macron. it would seem that europe lies with the united states of america of sovereignty, no, all decisions that are made in the white at home, europe salutes and fulfills, despite the fact that it actually hits her national interest with all the economic political issue of national security, but on the other hand, even there even there, despite the lack of sovereignty, there is understanding. what the escalation with belarus can lead to, after all, it will not be possible to draw belarus alone into the war , for example, the president spoke about this more than once in his message. if they are drawn in, belarus is drawn in , the whole of europe is no longer a special one, the military operation will already be used all the forces and

europe understands the opportunities that a union state has and what this will lead to, but i see that you do not question what is reported. this is a french newspaper. it does not mean that after that i am 100% sure of this, moreover , i am convinced that kiev is fulfilling the will of the united states. and what is the will of the united states to prolong the conflict as long as possible ? more blood should flow ukrainian resources. they run out we see now, what 's going on at the front? we see that the most combat-ready units of the armed forces, which have been preparing for many years, are simply what crushed by russian troops is a matter of time, what's next? how to support this conflict , how to sort it out, we need new foreigners, we need new victims, who they have in the baltics, but this is only rhetoric, they don’t have a human resource, a lot of rhetoric, as the great three call them on the internet. lithuania latvia estonia causing laughter, which

the poles can only bark, there is this time, but on the other hand. i would very much like to involve the dream, belarus was always directed to this by their policy to destroy our state with to swing it from the inside, to make it here at the beginning of the civil war, and then i’ll throw all this at russia, after a while it didn’t work out. so it is necessary to provoke, therefore he claims that kiev has applied for such data not only as, uh, france, to all the west. well, we see that, apparently , france has refused other silence. this suggests that exactly 100% of the baltic countries will relax, poland will give any. the data that ukraine will request , we understand this very well, and here the criterion one is the country that has more sovereignty. she does not agree to this, although france lies under the united states but still it is the founding country of the european union, like germany, it is the main country of the big big three of the eu. well, look at lithuania.

you won’t be able to, look how interesting it turns out. hmm. this is what zelensky’s regime is terrible now and why it is necessary to listen to such information as we started discussing today with maximum tension, and listen, because they have barbaric logic. look what's just recently said the adviser to the head of zelensky's office is podolak. he said that ukraine has the right to destroy everything that is in the crimea and donbass. it seems, wait , you are shouting all the time that this is your land of crimea donbass and you want to destroy everything with amazingly barbaric logic, which is being broadcast now, kiev officially. i think this is the logic of war in the first place. we should not take it that way, but still i would doubt that paris single-handedly made such a decision regarding the digital map of belarus. i think that it is correct, such an informational message is given with a simulated one. i would see two signals here

, first of all, that the prevention of the spread of the conflict remains extremely important for the european union at the current stage and the position of france - this was demonstrated, and the second very important signal is the firmness of the position. uh, and uh, the determination of the response from belarus is finally realized by the european elites, that's why this message is so wide. uh, circulated in the press. i think it is too no matter who you think. that's what kind of game france is playing right now. we see that what is m-m such a fickle, unstable in this regard, but a macron. here he goes to the biden and says, we are brothers in arms in the war for ukraine, he returns from beijing and says that now in europe there is no need to fight for taiwan at all, we should not follow the american format, then he says this. our task is to help ukraine survive. by all means. do not let russia win, do not allow the expansion of this conflict. that's what the game is and that's the most important thing, who's the game

leads me with his hands. and i think that, uh, this situation, how is it related to the fact that we, from our point of view, evaluate solidarity a little if we are talking about solidarity, because it could when they have solidarity, yes, and we, uh, see , its only in our understanding and more in belarusian, but there are other options, there is a belarusian version, indeed, it is built, uh on the position. e. union of like-minded people, e with a very high share of responsibility on a global scale. and there is another well-known for us. e dot vision. this is us already we will simply express the tobacco, apart and in fact the macron demonstrates it today, but i would pay attention to one more point that hides paris and the macron a lot, and in particular, but paris is today between three fires. these are the sanctions of the united states of america, these are retaliatory measures

from china and russia, and without restraint. the protectionism that is spreading across europe is why all the actions of the macron are aimed at somehow surviving this fight that is unfolding today. us they don’t want to represent it in the information space yet , but it exists and this is all the subtleties of french foreign policy, we are talking about the survival of europe in general for today, and not just france. and there are a huge number of problems in the european union and, in general, macroru assessed abritoric very often to the domestic audience, which must be shown at least something that he defends the national interests. the french, after all, everything that the macro says is actually discussed in europe, and so why are we helping ukraine, why do we supply weapons? why do we need a war? take care of french problems, sort out, in the end, the mountains of garbage that lie in the city with migrants. nobody cares about the problem. only grows. well, there is one more aspect that i would like to mention. we should never

again believe a word of what european politicians say, lest they tell us. we don't want escalation, we don't want war, we will never attack. we don't want war with russia not to believe a single word. we must remember one simple thing they will have slightest opportunity to attack and destroy. they will know that there will be no answer, they will know that there will be nothing for them, just as there was nothing in yugoslavia for this in libya , there was nothing for this in syria in iraq, which means they will attack and destroy in the name of democracy and freedom and all belarusians who will die here. they'll say no big deal. this is for the great bright future, so not believing a single word is the only way to prevent war being strong, therefore the president is right, when now is over. for all these years, especially the last year, he pays a huge amount of attention not in words to issues of national security and our military power, and i am not afraid of this word,

but in fact today we actually pushed the war aside. it was very simple that they pushed aside not by their rhetoric, nor by their promises, not by their words, but by the fact that today our military potential has increased significantly, but after the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons. this step, uh, will push the war back for a long time, we'll discuss it, but here's the end of the topic. here it is, how to said olga igorevna, solidarity is what seems to us to be solidarity in the west, apparently. it looks like the us is outraged by what is being broadcast to the general public and paris and brussels along with it. bytes are spoken during a telephone conversation. he planted a macron after the beijing theses, but this conflict was most clearly expressed by the president of the american foundation, heritage, kharitovich, fan-deisha - this is the most influential factory of american thought, james krafan. here is the ntrest magazine published an article where he in fact, the time is threatening to reconsider the status

of the united states as the leading donor of ukraine; it is necessary to demand others from france. the partners of the report who and how helped kiev and until the eu reports the us should not send money to ukraine. so this is the environment and the owner. so the whole policy is shifted again and again. here is the notorious counteroffensive that they cannot agree among themselves how they will divide further and because of this, too, but one more thing must be said, the americans are now destroying the european economy every month destroys. they put her on a gas needle, which means they put her on an american needle on an industrial needle. now many european enterprises are moving to other countries. many are striving, including in the united states. that is, today they have hooked europe on themselves, that is, the economic sovereignty of europe has been lost, respectively, such statements can be made to frighten europe because, like ukraine, let's not dream up, but

think about the further development of the situation. today there is no ukraine. as a state, because that it is completely dependent on western aid, will there be or europe after some time? i 'm not talking about now, if such a policy continues, what will happen to the european economy in 5 years, in 6 years of sanctions , in 6 years of complete dependence on america, what will happen to it? i'm afraid that germany, uh, france will not be pulled out on itself. do they really not understand this burden of europe? whether it is now given to them on their own. well, look, we see that, on the one hand, the united states is saying in plain text to its partners there in the asian region, here in south korea, first of all, reduce the supply of microchips that do not trade with china and this is 300 billion dollars of trade between south korea and china and the same thing, they are now saying to the european union, and all trade with europe, china has how much 850 billion dollars

, you can understand why they don't want to burn bridges. and why such it would seem large? state powers are economically so powerless. really, how is your fat? well, i would not speak completely about the vassal positions of europe, of course, there is, but the only thing that they have relaxed since the forty-fifth year and are accustomed to receiving this kind of subsidies and living in such a stable world, but financial world, but then what you said about. here are the editions of national intels. after all, this is the formula that trump once put forward. this was the first question after he came to power, to which he asked her in europe how long we will support you , then it’s time to invest in your security. and today it is already a question. e of ukraine a does europe understand this, of course, sound european analysts from the very beginning of the conflict in ukraine have been saying that europe should go

on its own track, and what the macron said, these are not just his words. but macron is forced to protect not only the interests of those he represents, but uh , he is the president of france so he is limited, but i think there is an even more important undercurrent today, besides this fuss that we are seeing between the us er and europe because er, the globalization that we have seen economic and interconnectedness and the transformation that it has spurred the economy into the political landscape. she had two sides. eh, what we see for the golden billion is enrichment and the second very important side. after all, a club of elite powers and those schemes that used to enrich the influence that were hidden. they have become available to a large number of states, and if earlier, and the countries of asia in the middle east watched the behavior of their partners, the united states and the european union, today they are asking european analysts a question.

that mark they ask the question, uh connect. the states of america and the european union have reached such heights due to their own potential or we have allowed them to do it. and i am convinced that today the number of those who ask the second part of the question is already much larger than the number of countries that, uh, have expressed their desire. recently it was reported to join the brix most arab emirates saudi arabia many added across europe another very important point. why are we now talking about it, it is not a sovereign story. everything just means a lot, uh in 1991 year, soviet troops left eastern europe , american nowhere. didn't leave. this is the first reason it all started with this, because the americans then took control of europe and wanted to take all the post-soviet space under control, and then russia missed the baltic states, missed ukraine, missed a number of other countries

, we need to talk about this, and then the economy financial control. who is in control? the largest enterprises in the european union where are the owners behind the ribbon in america next, and who controls the elections in the european union? or we can now say that the americans do not interfere in european elections as much as they interfere, and in some countries , uh, such as poland, elections are key for them for the further development of europe, and elections in poland will be already now. the americans are interfering in them. biden's visit is already here. in warsaw, he was not only connected with ukraine, he was connected, including with pre-election poland, he clearly gave a signal. what kind of poland does the usa need well, the president of poland picked up this slogan, saying more america to europe that's all politics. let's talk about safety. the story of britain's plans to deliver shells with combined uranium to ukraine, it seems, as a whole series was continued.

the media published, e, the answer of the deputy minister of defense of great britain, james hippie, to a parliamentary inquiry, in which he makes it clear that in fact , about 2,000 shells for challenger 2 tanks have already been delivered to ukraine there, among which there is ammunition with combined uranium. moreover, when they started, well, on the contrary, apparently, to ask a question. but what about next with these shells, what about responsibility two revealing lower quotes from the uk undersecretary of defense he said for reasons of operational security. we will not comment on the indicators of the use of the supplied kits, and the second in the uk does not have an obligation to eliminate the consequences of the use of shells with combined uranium in ukraine, that is, with such friends, ukraine does not need scorched fields at all. i think such informational messages. they appear in connection with the widely advertised offensive a counter-offensive large which is expected in april

in may, that is, these deadlines in june, the deadlines are constantly postponed and uh, such a heat on the information agenda, it must definitely be today. these are irresponsible statements. they are just in order to create tension in belarus as well, because if we follow this whole chain, even because we discussed today. uh, this is clearly, as it were , traced, uh, and belarus, russia should prepare for a serious conflict, because a counteroffensive in the form presented to us by the information agenda. it should be of the west, but destroying everything, that is, the situation will be completely reversed. uh, it’s natural that we, like in soviet times, like during the cold war, we begin to reflex, that is, we, uh, are re-equipping, spending huge amounts of human resources and financial resources in order to counter what we don’t know about it creates tension in

society, because today the work is going on with on the one hand, on the vo front, and on the other hand, for the population, including the americans, when they threw a bomb on japan on hiroshima nagasaki, just recently an american official stood in japan and was even afraid to say that it was the usa yes, he says, this, of course, a tragedy. and who is responsible for this tragedy, and who is responsible for mutilated iraqi children? what kind of shells were used in iraq, how many children after that were ill with oncological diseases? how many people yes how many people destroyed 1 million 200 iraqs died, who will come with responsibility, so uh, the official here in the uk is not lying to them, they do not care. who cares? how will europe be radioactively contaminated. but this will affect europe and not only ukraine, the wind will be different, therefore, of course. it's scary and different in a different way. russia has no way to win today sergeevich deciding to deploy

tactical nuclear weapons on our territory is e, a weapon of prudence not only deterrence, but prudence for those who have such plans hatches in time the salvation of europe from a great war. they should rejoice that today we are deploying the same nuclear weapons. and why rejoice, because the americans who command europe will also think three times what command to give? do not touch this belarus, they will say one by one simple. the reason we're not here is sitting across the ocean. if a negative scenario suddenly starts, therefore we have never threatened anyone, everyone knows this very well. this is a lie that is being poured on belarus that we seem to be unable to help but ask. in such in this case, of course, we have such an hmm significant date, uh, another anniversary of the chernobyl tragedy. it has always been a political theme for the belarusian position, absolutely always. but this time they seem to have outdone themselves, they managed to connect this day on april 26 with the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons by belarus. here's how you listen to it.

do you remember how they associated this day with the construction of a nuclear power plant. russian they have everything we do, e for the country for the state for its security for the development of the economy is bad. at the same time , everything that others do is good. lithuania is placing nuclear waste on the border with belarus. wonderful. poland will build a nuclear power plant. build, so lithuania will want to build; build, this is the politicization of the chernobyl theme. this use is solely for the purpose of pr, they do not care about this belarusian people, they do not care about these our polluted territories. they never went there. who was there lukashenko lukashenko since the beginning of the presidency every year there went not afraid. i didn’t just go around defending programs, which means that when the supreme soviet was still strong, i remember, when power was not presidential. he then cursed with advice so that the money would go there, so that people would support this help. uh, affected region. this is real politics. this is the usual

pr to walk around the center of minsk and the bell. rubbish would be removed. i remember on the main streets. uh, we collected some papers, we would take a rake, and they are 30 years old, a bell, disguised, a fool in a priest and they go ringing with this bell, and then cars turn over. i remember my first chernobyl hat. i am a cadet of the academy of the ministry of internal affairs of the anniversary of the chernobyl tragedy , they send me without a helmet without a helmet without anything. i didn’t know what it was, maybe there is a column on the outso, overturning the cars and us cadets. by the way, mikhailovich himself stood with me and in the army with her mother, then he was a cadet of the academy, eden we recently remembered and they throw stones at us. this is called to honor the memory of chernobyl. this is what you are doing so nothing has changed now. now they will walk. only right in the middle. warsaw does not look like much that does not pass through paris. let it be like they will come, then the police will arrange for them there. they will see. what is a democratic nuclear and , uh, france that is largely based on

nuclear power plants, don't you look like that, huh? by the way, olga igorevna, oleg sergeevich raised an interesting thought that, indeed, it may be, the time has come when for us april 26 is not only a time of memory of this tragedy, but also a certain symbol of the revival of belarus in spite of in the name of in spite of everyone forecasts, that is, more labor allowed to revive these lands. although many did not believe that this was possible, especially in such a time frame and in the name of, well, in the name of the present, in the name of the fact that children on those lands could live here, and we see that this was succeeded, that is, it may really be time to rebuild relation to this day, not to those events, but to this day. i think that it has already been rebuilt in belarus. i think that at the level of ordinary people. eh, that's what you're talking about, it's just connected with the future not with the past with those events that were, but with the future, but for the information agenda, we absolutely agree. oleg sergeevich the key word is everything nuclear, as if everything is built around it, e.g.

and i think that maybe we need to pay a little less attention to them and work on our agenda. after all, we have formed it. we have certain relationships. we remember this date. we know what she has to do with us. and uh, a certain event. always lining up, you can’t live all the time in the paradigm that we want to prove something to someone, we need to prove and go develop with your own why is it? maybe you? unwittingly, you are absolutely right. i agree with you that you really need to create and build your natives and your path and your strategy. but here you involuntarily, probably, pull yourself up and draw parallels with the twentieth year and look and understand that if everything went well, and so, you could be a force here, for whom it would be natural, to close the project, on which built to rewrite sharp. we see in other states, moldova , the baltics, ukraine, that is, they, instead of to, for example, build an education system there. they destroy the old ones.

here we are now discussing, for example, how they will remake momentary chants to link the incomparable, weapons of deterrence and, for example, the chernobyl tragedy. but we see how history was rewritten. here, thinking about it. we recently recalled the speech of russia's permanent representative to the un, not benzia, who, using a specific example, told what all this is about. can reach. i will ask you to show now a fragment, a total film adaptation of the educational process and rewriting of joint pages with the history of the russian and ukrainian people is engaged in the ministry of education and science of ukraine the most ambitious adjustments. were subjected to a program in history and geography. i even took it with me. a geography textbook for the eighth grade edited by maslyak and copied, if you believe him, then the ancestors of the french, spaniards , portuguese, turks, and even jews came from ukraine. i want to turn to my french colleague. nicolas, you knew that you were

actually ukrainian. don't believe. read the textbook. i took it from there in it iron logic, since the ancestors of the french are gals, they came from a magnitude that is in ukraine . do you know that, according to the author of the textbook , the ukrainians, the poles are of slavic origin, and the russians of the countess are denied the slavic status of belarusians, they were attributed to the baltic peoples. that's it, that's why, when you're watching, that's what they sometimes try to tie to our events. this is where you involuntarily think. how far it can go from ridiculous and ridiculous to apparently. ukraine today in this reality is history should not be humiliated to the point that you get bogged down in modern drapery , but uh dangerous, because uh, not that this information space is being thrown in

, the danger is that we can join this discussion as soon as we reach. here in this discussion, then at the end, as a rule, only this foam, which we have chosen today, will remain. it will be, if we follow the path of proving that we are slavs, we will begin to remember our sources, and so on, then it is extremely important for them to draw you into this discussion. meaningless absolutely, because to break it. uh, any story you invite from belarus will do it with ease. i think even for 5 minutes, but uh, important to them. that's it and it's very important for us today not to get involved, let's say. unfortunately, propaganda does not interest the historian of opinion. and today, today, we are watching this story. and i open the internet from these, that we are balts - this is from everyone. e extremist telegram channel. this is carried

on purpose and will be carried because the youth who watch tiktok short information. she won't wait for the story. today there is an information war. we have already passed the period of time when we sat in belarus, including saying that everything is fine, let's talk only about a good agenda. let's talk only about our achievements. this will never happen again. then they themselves will explain everything to people for us, and we will lose the information war. today we are ahead of the curve. we will debunk their fakes, we will say that they are liars, we will show that they are lying and the youth is listening. i see it. now driving around the country to work. we need tension and not let them seize the initiative from us. today we get it. today we talk a lot about security, and the other day in grodno there was a picture that made it possible to visually, but look at who the country protects in the first place. i propose now to watch fragments of this spontaneous meeting

on grodno street, please. well, girls at the disco so, of course, good evening write, but don't push me, he pushed me like that in the twentieth year. it's ok. let's do everything possible. here we have children leaving to look. what are you looking at. he'll have to, thanks guys. all the best. live peacefully.

goodbye. good cadres, however, they noticed what the president said when he left a few minutes earlier when a meeting with the president was held in grodno. what did he say to an official that it’s better to fight in the field than there and it’s clear which one was meant there, and leaving here he said, live peacefully for ordinary people, that is, oleg sergeevich it turns out. here it is, and the formula for our security is to work and live in peace. you understand how many people envy us. they are actually jealous. i've been here when in the donbass and in other countries, they envy us. that's when you look at these shots, when there are four of these big weekends. you see these queues at the cemetery. you see how people clean up the graves of the world of the sun. this is how the soul rejoices, but you still understand what is behind this, and behind this is the painstaking work of the president of the security forces. i remember his words on the message. here i am for i defined myself as the installation you work

and protect your family, and we will protect the country with the military, the president spoke about this in his message. me. it hit very hard. and these words are right, you have to work. we must really work at our workplace to defend our homeland. and then we have these peaceful days, the sunny days that were here these weekends will always be worth a lot. these are the children, these are the young girls who come to the president happy with the children. they live happily. they may not realize how happy they don't see what's going on, there alexei sergeevich you remembered the messages themselves. we all remember your questions that have already been asked, and we talk a lot today about values. here, let's talk a little bit about western values , literally a touch. uh, a store of value that shines for us and thank god, and in canada, ministers from the office of justin trudeau staged a fashion show in parliament in women's pink high-heeled shoes and that's it. this they dedicated a quote of support to women who are being

abused. i don't know why i remember it now. i thought they wanted to see again, that he slept with a woman. here is poor trump if he were gay or a transvestite and everyone who accused him of something would be sued. that's what peace a man can't sleep with a woman. all. here with anyone. sing the dog is sleeping. uh, with children can't, pedophiles sell him. we understand it is impossible. so , maybe this fault is happening in the world today and it is the main one, that there is something that needs to be cleared. here, or sort it out on the shelf. we go beyond the orthodox church in ukraine yes. this is the last thing on which it rests now, probably european civilization. and they want to remove it and you are right. here is a struggle not only between the west, and russia, there is a value struggle going on, whether we will actually save, that's all everything, in what we believed and our ancestors. i know what else i'm sure. god sees everything and god is on our

side. here, indeed. we need this new push project to move on. look, we don't look into space at all. we rushed when we are now playing with this artificial intelligence. he never considers the intelligence of the machine. it's simple advanced calculator. these are not intellects. for some reason, we are trying to imagine, to get carried away to fall under the spell that he will someday replace, something about us does not understand how we ourselves are degrading. that's what we really need in order to somehow go further and not get lost, for the sake of which everything is there. well, i would pay attention to the reaction of canadian society itself, you see, both women and men judged this action very sharply, they considered it offensive, both for men and women, and in general the issue of violence against women. he was, literally he flattened under these heels, they trampled. uh, what women have been fighting for for centuries, and about what. e no offense will be said to the men present here. so far they have not been able to decide, and this action

showed a lot. uh, how are these issues generally handled, so i don't think it's a role model. but, uh, indeed, europe today is going exactly that way. uh, i would pay attention to the fact that this is the backbone that we have e he is in this picture yes, in grodno and if uh take a screenshot and place it in the european information space, then, probably, they would see that real normal past life, which they have already forgotten a little. and we live in it. we are doing this agreed by sergeevich this is a huge value, and uh, what else? i paid attention to the words. and yuryevich himself, uh, the twentieth year, uh, and today we remember, and here he is, again, he remembered, because in the united states of america we constantly oppose ourselves and the united states of america was their january, 21

years of storming the capitol, does joseph biden today remember this situation and explain it or is he to the population? what happened, i don’t remember then, but we can’t remember a single speech by alexander grigoryevich when he didn’t say this in 1920, where democracy opposes us, that we are authoritarian states, we don’t work with the population. and this is what we have all the time. thank you for this conversation, we thank our guests, but we don’t say goodbye in a couple of minutes, a global confrontation with the eyes of former americans marine and scout scott-treater have big and frank conversations. stay with us. we are continuing right now the conversation that we have been waiting for a long time for events mercilessly, the information war has almost taught us to divide the world into west, east, zeroing out everything

in common and focusing exclusively on differences. so it seemed to us that this is a very narrow view, and we gave up in order to discuss serious topics with people who are on the other side of both the world and the information front, how they look at all this and at us, including those who, like us, want to figure out what brought the world to its present stage of madness. actually, that's why with one of the most famous americans in the russian-language telegram. scott rieter, we talked not so much about current events. how many main watersheds are there between our countries and peoples? so, former american marine and scout scotter hello, mr. ritter, we always follow your performances with interest. thank you for being with us today thank you for the invitation. ah. ronaldo is now talking to him a lot about the offensive on the ukrainian front, even the terms are called. but as

you, see the alignment of forces in this confrontation, there is no doubt that russia is the stronger side, but just because you are stronger does not mean that flexing your muscles. this is an efficient method. i think at an early stage. russia had a certain understanding of the nature of this conflict. they didn't just call it a special military operation. it wasn't an invasion. this was not a war. i think russia expected. that this conflict would end sooner than it turned out, in fact, russia believed that they could force ukraine to sit down at the negotiating table and indeed, it seems that russia has succeeded in this

endeavor having held three meetings in belarus in gomel and then another in istanbul last year on april 1, tambov, it could have led to a ceasefire and the whole conflict, but it was nato who intervened and forced ukraine to disagree with this, so the confrontation continues and i don’t think that russia immediately adequately reacted to this with military supplies to ukraine of 50 billion dollars. what made it possible? the onset of last autumn, when ukraine recaptured kharkov region and kherson and only in september. er, russia began to respond properly to this new reality, there was a partial

mobilization of 300,000 troops and a regrouping of forces. so today we have russia which i believe is capable of winning the war with ukraine and nato. they are specifically a military operation that was carried out for political purposes. they call it a special military operation, but the reality is that today it is largely a war between russia and the collective west, which is used by ukraine as intermediaries. and i think that russia has a chance of winning washington will give washington understand this. i mean, what does this mean for ukraine well, do they understand the essence of the ukrainian tragedy? i think russia understands this, i mean that the whole special military operation was designed to minimize the damage to the ukrainian

people, infrastructure and so on, russia had a problem with the ukrainian government. but this is politics and people should understand that before the start of a special military operation, it is russia and only russia strove for a peaceful outcome. russia insisted on the implementation of the minsk agreements. it was not russia that turned its back on minsk, it was france, it was germany , it was the united states, and even after they turned away, it was russia that was achieving the agreed outcome with these 2021 treaties. you will ignore the meeting before it was the united states and nato that refused to abide by these agreements pave witch therefore, i think this is a tragic

situation for russia for which ukraine fraternal slavic nation because of their shared soviet history of relationships between russians and ukrainians. this is such a family level for those same russians who are fighting today, there are ukrainian wives, ukrainian husbands, ukrainian mothers, ukrainian fathers, this is a human tragedy of such a scale that we in the west do not understand, we see it as a conflict, not as a tragedy a which is essentially what it is. i would like to hear from you jungle, how far can this man go in his political ambitions? well, at the end after all, he is the president of the united states, he has reached the pinnacle of political ambition. he announced that he was going to be re-elected. and this means that he adheres

to the political directions in which he has already gone. it is very difficult to get re-elected without publicizing his track record. therefore , i think that he will double his efforts on ukraine, double his support for ukraine and will. unfortunately, seek to prolong this conflict. very important for many russian films, danila bagrov asked this question. what is the power to take? who has a clear vision? i repeatedly said that russia is on the right side of history on the side of truth you know

that we are all human means that we all make mistakes and sit here and say that russia has been flawless in the implementation of its policies. it would be absurd human error does not detract from the fact that russia was trying to do the right thing with ukraine. they didn't want this war. they tried to avoid russia sacrificing its own people in an attempt to minimize the impact of the conflict on the ukrainian people of western ukrainians. in general, russia is the right side of history, the russian cause is

a just cause. and i think that in this case, the truth will come out. you know, right now the emotions are very, very high and those emotions , especially in the west, are heightened by the level of ignorance of russia. that's why i think you can't understand it where you are? i don't think you fully understand how ignorant we are here in the united states about belarus russia ukraine diet ignorance breeds fear because we are afraid of what we don't understand manipulated by our political leaders to make us skimp on this conflict, but eventually the truth will come out. we will understand the truth, we will understand the truth about why this war began, how it began, and who is to blame for this. and i believe that russia, as i said, will be on the right side of history. i have a question just in this case.

everyone understands that the war in ukraine will not stop until the washingtons are interested in it, but how ordinary americans see this process. us the truth interesting, russia i think you made us believe. yes, that vladimir putin is a cruel dictator who seeks to return russia to the glory days of the soviet union that russia wants to become a world power capable of not only being equal to the united states, but also defeating them and therefore, when you tell people this is the fear that existed during the mccarthy era in the red fifties fear when we were afraid of communism and we used that to justify the expansion

of the us military today is the same. we need an enemy and we need this enemy of russia you need to create this enemy to justify our exorbitant military spending, to justify the existence of nato. so in the united states, uh, i think you would be shocked at how this happens it's not much discussed, because at the moment, for example, when someone something like me dares to speak up and say, well wait a minute. why don't we consider? they call you a russian propagandist, a puppet of putin, and they call you a disinformer, so the debate is a dialogue and a discussion that is in america are the foundation of freedom of speech, which we claim. we support, actually. that's all, this is categorically not encouraged when it comes to discussing russia and the war in ukraine, you are a direct person, so

you allow yourself to ask a direct question, belarusians are enemies for americans. they can be if america acts like an enemy to russia, i mean that every nation has the right to self-defense and self-preservation and if america positions itself as a threat to russia then russia is america's enemy not because russia wants to be her enemy, but because we forced russia to be america's enemy but i will say this is that if you extend your hand of friendship and russia she will extend her hand in return shake your hand and the countries will be good friends. good partners. russia does not want to be an enemy of the united states but if the united states behaves like an enemy of russia what russia should do hmm after all why are the washington partners, if it is the pleasure of imposing one package of sanctions after another here is the blow first

just to ordinary people, and not only in belarus or russia, but on youtube along the roadsides to europeans and americans, it’s even obvious. this is one of the problems of ideologically oriented politics, because we consider russia and, as a result, belarus as an enemy. you know when you're in conflict the last thing you want is for me to treat you as a brother identify with you as a human being because then my humanity kicks in and i say why i want to hurt you . this is the last thing a person must want to do to another person. therefore, in order to justify this policy of sanctions, we must degunize you and the first thing we do is attack your

leadership, because in the west we believe, in principle, in democracy, according to which, ironically, free and independent people do not choose bad people as their leaders. i know we may be doing so well here in the united states and europe but look at your leaders and then as a consequence we will attack you don't be surprised and so we we can agree to the imposition of sanctions, because we accuse you of having poor leadership. we say it's your fault . the blame of the people on your leaders, so we have no sympathy for the suffering we 've caused. and if you want to end suffering. you must change your leadership. so this approach is precisely why the most dangerous thing that can happen from the point of view of american and european politicians. this is that i am having a discussion with you about which i treat you as equals as a person, because referring to you as a person. i expose the soulless nature of the american european.

policies of sanctions against the peoples of belarus russia and then we do not notice the irony that although we may have made your life uncomfortable, and i believe that sanctions did it you do not suffer europe suffers these sanctions backfired and europe actually suffers from -for its own policy aimed at harming russia and belarus and i do not understand how the european people can continue to support a policy that harms him, not achieving the desired results in russia, this is a problem of democracy the whole world, watching hollywood films watching the life of your stars eating hamburgers, but this can hardly be called love for america i will try to explain i don’t know if

this is felt in the usa itself, but the main thing which is annoying in americans abroad. this is a dictation, something that allows itself in washington, because it does not allow anyone else. time surprises the russian point of view or the american, i'm talking about the opinion of the americans. well, from a theoretical point of view i should be surprised because america is supposed to uphold individual freedoms and we should respect sovereignty, but the reality is that we do things differently. this is really good sir. rita i feel i should clarify my question. i ask him no, in order to somehow hurt your patriotic feelings. if you are an american it is logical that you love your country. understandably, my question is about something else . all this is important, because america

still held number one today. and this is not only right, but also a great responsibility. well , i'm sure you agree with that. right, but that's what i'm trying to convey. this is an example let's look at what joe biden says as president. he says our best export is american democracy, but what are we exporting? as you noticed, democracy is not defined by hollywood soda or clothes , democracy is more intuitive and democracy is a principled position principles that speak of empowering the individual for the benefit of the collective for all planet for all the moment that it was all

made for the united states american democracy was built american history a unique american history that cannot be replicated anywhere else. so when we talk about american democracy. it is the product of an imperfect history. remember when we signed our constitution we had slavery, when we signed our constitution women didn't have the right to vote. we had to grow up as a nation, and we waged war not only against england but also civil war against themselves. we have a civil rights movement that is against inequalities in how we treat people of color here in the united states and we're still dealing with these issues with these historical issues that define who we are and what you and i represent. . so our democracy is aimed at solving american problems. how can we take this and insist that you and belarus follow the american model, our model is based on

our history, if belarus really perhaps democracy should follow the belarusian model, starting from the history of belarus, the same thing with russia, it can be democracy. it will be a democracy with a belarusian face, reflecting belarusian values ​​and principles, and they will be different from ours, and we must accept that the rest of the world cannot and will not live like a mirror projection of the united states and this is the biden's failure, because we do not we can export democracy democracy must grow from within in every direction. we must encourage this growth, but for this we must c respect differences. and america does not do this, because, as it were , they correctly noticed. we dictate. we don't lend a helping hand. we don't offer it. we dictate decisions, no nation wants to be dictated to and finally. i'd like to ask, that's what it's kind of weird about. here right now. both of us communicate easily,

we discuss complex topics in many of our countries' political affairs. that's definitely not friends, but rest, what prevents you from hearing each other? uh, you know i'd say you can hear me well enough? i believe that belarus sounds good enough, the united states and i don't think it's a problem with belarus that doesn't mean we can't have a disagreement. they may be they are and it is quite logical am. well, you know, the key aspect of disagreement is the ability to communicate and work your way through problems to a solution that is fair for both parties. but for this to happen, it's not only that you hear me, it's just what america does, we speak and insist that you listen, and then we we insist that you act in

accordance with what we say, what we do not. so it's not taking time out and listening to what you have to say not hearing what you have to say and acting on what you have to say communication should be a two way street and right now the united states is not going out for communication. we dictate and you cannot solve this problem. you know one of the things i've always said is that you can't solve a problem. if not at first determine its essence, because if you don't know what the problem is, the solution is no right now, the problem is that you have wisely noticed. it's the lack of communication that's the problem between the united states and belarus. the united states and russia we don't communicate effectively enough, but you see the us doesn't recognize that because we think we don't communicate effectively, that we tell you what we want from you. well , what we're not doing is completing the rest of the equation, which is,

to listen to what you have to say, to treat it with respect and to come to a mutually acceptable result of solving the problem. mr. ridder thank you very much for being with us good luck and we hope to meet again. thank you very much. thank you. have a nice day. well, this is how the conversation turned out, as it often happens, everyone saw something of their own in it, but as for me, this is another illustration of those forces for which democracy is only a screen, behind which there is no place, neither humanism nor friendship, peoples , a small project, like defeating poverty or a breakthrough into deep space for this vile, but very influential rude. alien life is just a resource or a hindrance from here to look like a new plague of transgender gardens, and artificial intelligence like a wolf in sheep's clothing. it's not even an experiment anymore. this is some kind of war started without our knowledge, and

both countries have something to lose in it, but if for them it is capital, then for billions of others it is a matter of being. in the most christian sense, it seems that such a battle is going on now and something tells what to be just a spectator in this global battle is not enough who succeeds. thanks for being happy with us.