hello, on the air, the sass program is authorized to declare, i and the presenter nadezhda sas welcome you and remind you. this is a program for those who want to better understand what is happening in the world and understand how these processes, events, people will affect the life of everyone and the life of the country, and the main events of world politics this week. we will tell you right now, chinese president xi jinping had a telephone conversation with ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky, this was their first communication since the start of the russian spice, operation and ukrainian diplomacy for a long time sought a call from beijing, transmitting signals there, even through the french leader emmanuel macron. as expected, he devoted most of the conversation to discussing his peace plan, which the republic of belarus supported one of the first official kiev under pressure from its western curators, in fact, the chinese initiative rejected, it is not mentioned in

the press release either. for president zelensky following the results of the conversation, on the other hand , the president of ukraine noted that he was confident that under the leadership of xi jinping. china will cope with various kiev is also waiting for the visit of the special representative of the people's republic of china for eurasian affairs, who also plans to visit neighboring countries to discuss ways to achieve peace in ukraine, what happened remained a diplomatic failure for the united states, which sees china as its main competitor and does not want to let it strengthen its global authority through mediation of the conflict settlement . in addition, now the eu countries will be able to refer to the zelensky sik dialogue as a reason to refrain from taking drastic steps against the prc, which is being pushed by them due to washington, venezuelan opposition figure juan guaido reported that the colombian authorities deported him from the country to boga he planned to attend an international conference on venezuela on april 25, but the lists of authorities

said that only representatives of the countries invited to the dialogue in january 2019 would attend amid mass protests mr. guido proclaimed himself provisionally acting president of venezuela in august of that year, he announced the formation of his own government. he was supported by the united states and most european countries in end of 2022. venezuela's opposition assembly approved the liquidation of the interim government under the leadership. juan guaido in april became. it is known that the opposition has lost access to venezuela's blocked shields in the us the expulsion of a close us ally in south america from calubia is a sign that washington puts an end to supporting this fugitive venezuelan politician and is probably preparing the ground for normalizing relations with the venezuelan authorities russia iran syria and turkey discussed questions in moscow.

security lines in syria and normalization syrian-turkish relations were reported in the ministry of defense of the russian federation as specified in the department following the talks, the parties confirmed the desire to preserve the territorial integrity of syria and the need to intensify efforts. for the speedy return of syrian refugees to their homeland, the heads of defense departments. they especially emphasized the constructive nature of the dialogues held. in this format, and the need to continue it in the interests of further stabilization of the situation in the syrian arab republic and the region in in general, they added in the ministry well , let's start our program the following words are attributed to the great commander of the 18th century, queen of prussia, frederick ii. if our soldiers knew why we are fighting, it would be impossible to wage a single war on today 's program once again, referring to the topic of the conflict in ukraine

, we will talk about those powerful people who are clearly and clearly aware of what they are fighting and fighting for , playing the ukrainian card to throw off the masks from the real beneficiaries. buyer benefit conflict over ukrainian heritage. andrey vladimirovich savinykh, chairman of the standing committee on international affairs of the house of representatives of the national assembly of the republic of belarus, will help me today . hello and andrey viktorovich manuila , doctor of political sciences, professor. hello. good afternoon, by tradition, we begin our program with a blitz survey. do you think ukraine boasting will continue as a state in the foreseeable future andrei vladimirovich what do you think? well, i think that no one knows the answer to this question today, but if we talk about probabilities, then the most optimal chance that ukraine has will remain as a territory of a people and maybe as a state entity - this is

, uh, the fastest victory of russia and control by the russian side over the entire territory of ukraine in this case, a completely optimal solution is possible . yes, thank you, please, ukraine has already lost its sovereignty, so talk about a sovereign state. with regard to ukraine, it is possible only with a very big stretch, and the question of whether ukraine will retain its territorial integrity current conditions, and in the near future. here is e. i think that there is a very high chance that ukraine will fall apart, because give it to its territory, and the service zone that was once formed on the territory of prosperous ukraine, uh, is now being watched by western predators, uh, in which ukraine is still since he sees his allies, a ukrainian political scientist joins our broadcast alexander immediately addresses the question of our program and you do you think ukraine

will be able to survive in the foreseeable future as a state. hello dear friends and spectators. well, depending on what we mean by the state. yes, i agree with a colleague whom i just listened to. if there is a question about the sovereignty of independence, there are sets of some levers for decision-making of independence and other things, then a propaganda campaign. i think that no one will make any direct investments or investments in the development of the socio-economic sector in ukraine, especially certain financial resources. perhaps they will be allocated in order to maintain at least some level of controllability in the country, while she is driving. uh, fighting against russia. that's the only target. that is, in essence. uh, well, to support the government as much as possible in their confrontation

with russia, so to speak, and that's it. well, unfortunately, we are forced to admit that black is the key beneficiary of the current conflict in ukraine, but i would like to tell a little more in detail to explain to dear viewers what this company is, founded in 1988 for 35 years. this american financial company has grown into a company that owns the world, managing with over $10 trillion in assets has developed a software platform called aladdin to analyze risks for its clients. the platform receives confidential data from banks, insurance companies and other important institutions. through one black rock receives information about the management of financial assets worth about $ 23 million black rock also owns shares and voting rights in many of the largest european companies in sectors such as energy, oil, gas,

food transport, and, of course, finance the company holds the public debt of different countries. not bonds and has shares in real estate not so long ago, information appeared in the media about how the zelensky company makes money on the war, this time they uncovered a scheme to withdraw money to offshore through the american investment company blackrock the corruption scheme looks like this: the american black rock fund is closely related to the us financial elite provides millions of dollars for the restoration of ukraine block-rock sends money to the investment fund dragon capital specially created to promote us policy to ukraine, part of the fund remains in ukraine for the appearance of recovery, most of them go to corruption schemes with the participation of ukrainian politicians and the main multi-million dollar capital is withdrawn to offshore, from which money is already being returned back to the united states under the guise

of donor assistance for a demo party alexander i think you are familiar with this scheme. ma, only because many opposition politicians do not agree with the chosen course of the same mr. zelensky or the same mr. poroshenko remember very well that at some point ukraine turned into an offshore zone for the united states of america yes, hope and remember them with great regret, when we spoke about this publicly urged not to do it. so they called for the preservation of statehood and were betrayed by repression. yes, and we all have been declared suspected of high treason; someone has already been declared it in absentia. yes , and so on. uh states, ukraine yes and black rock companies are actually such a phenomenal corporation in fact, uh, which, in close connection with the federal reserve system, is in close connection with the international monetary fund. they

come to assist in any state. this is chekhov. three sisters in fact, that is, they always work in the same direction and promote the interests of cosmo-economic capital. i think it's no secret to anyone already said that one of the densest corporations. since 2002, she has been managing the assets of seven rothschilds, and other, uh, families and the international financial oligarchy, and when such corporations enter territory. an unstable state with conflicts, they are unlikely to invest anything. they come in on pretext. you know, in 2004, a very good book. juite of an economic killer, where he actually described step-by-step instructions on how such corporations work. yes, how they send people there, they are under the control of the government, they take control of all kinds of npo funds, uh, supervisory boards. you nadezhda just mentioned the dragon capital organization in ukraine, it is very well-known. yes, this is a certain thomas vial, but it is headed by e

dragon capital is a subsidiary of the fund to you fund. mantum is the george soros foundation, that is, in fact, this is a whole bundle of a cosmo-uh economic oligarchy. with the advent of zelensky to the government, they appointed their people, appointed supervisory boards and, in fact, put all state authorities and commercial networks under control. absolutely agree with you one more point andrey viktorovich , which i would like to draw attention to, but in fact black rock, you know how krakin, here it has sprouted into all spheres of human life. and again, this is how we see that part of their shares, a invested in companies that are engaged in the production of weapons, that is, the military-industrial complex of the beneficial side. now, again, supplying weapons to ukraine and in addition, even in the event of a defeat for ukraine, most of the ukrainian enterprises have already been bought by the same americans. and how can you tell, please,

this scheme is working at the moment, because i think andrei vladimirovich will agree with me that mr. soros and companies in relation to the republic of belarus were quite large in their time, but the scheme works to the limit. i just want to note that this company is not independent. this is a pad in those financial transactions that are carried out between uh, the elite of the united states and uh, again under the control of, uh, them ukrainian politicians politicians from many countries, because uh, well, everything is extremely simple in ukraine. there is an armed conflict . an armed conflict . - this is such a black hole that creates ideal conditions for laundering any investment. billions, tens of hundreds of billions, can go there without a trace , dissolving there, because , in the conditions of hostilities, it is not clear what they have done, what they have rebuilt. if something was built, then the same one was destroyed. uh, and uh, this is

the perfect moment. uh, get some money in there. yes, and money cannot be donated to the ukrainian side so that it develops there for some time; pay off, well, the territory of the land. well, apparently, some remnants of the industry there, that is, everything that can be sold, and then start, uh, everything, it is sawn with the help of the same command of the universal, and leaves, uh, laurels and then comes back. e. the states are an ideal scheme, all american dollars are on accounts in american jurisdiction and are simply recorded under different items. and the decision is made. in general, the average black rock bank manager is not the only one. as a matter of fact, uh, serious an investment company that is used

for their purposes, there are only four of them, if we already mention black rock let's remember vengard stands and filidelletti. well, in fact, these are all tools to sort of rob, uh, the countries of the periphery, and here is another very interesting point. we mentioned that this is the american elite and here. as a matter of fact, you, uh, had photographs, well, like representatives of the american government. yes, and so these people do not have sovereignty in decision-making, they are also dummy well a little bit in a better position than the ukrainian officials, but by and large they do not make the decision, they serve the interests. and not even the american elite, but over the national financial elite, which has long since broken away from the american soil.

although she was born there sometime and acts all over the world for them, the united states of america is the same territory as conditionally china, russia or australia, and if there is a need, and not abandoned, the united states of america in this regard, we can even say very interesting phrase that the united the states of america as a nation-state does not have national sovereignty. we can say differently, we can even say that the republic of belarus has much more national sovereignty than the united states of america, this is paradoxical , it may sound sensational, but this usually reflects this reason for the investigative financial connection of all these operations. and here i would also like to add that black rock at the moment has already gained control over the most important enterprises in ukraine that were nationalized by ukrainian oligarchs. just think about it, the us already owns such industrial energy and

logistics giants of ukraine as methaninvest detek agro-industrial holding mhape, naftogaz via condor finance pill c via rail capital markets. in network rain me tn finan spellc, as well as ukravtodor and ukrenergo, and in fact , having taken assets from the oligarchs under the guise of fighting them, zelensky and his entourage came up with an original scheme to enrich themselves by selling the largest national resources to americans alexander, but you see today, a, to unfortunately, there is no balance of opinions in today's ukraine, and therefore it is difficult for me . it seems that at least a small part of ukrainian society knows and understands this. what consequences can await. that is, it is one thing when a part of society is coming and dreaming. rather, even so about some

of his abstract victory, but another thing that after the end of the war awaits ukraine. what scenario is possible? i hope, to my great regret , i agree with you. after all , there is not a single mass media left on the territory of ukraine , all mass media the means of mass agitation, advertising and propaganda have changed. moreover, the propaganda specifically of the office of president zelensky and his inner circle, which is again controlled by western partners. that is, what happens to people is not reported to people. there is no way to get this alternative to the single news marathon they broadcast. they say in it that everything is fine in the country, that everything will be rebuilt, they will give money and we will live. very happy. yes, but it doesn't explain who should give the money. why and to whom it is beneficial, judging by what is happening, you are in at the beginning of the broadcast, they mentioned the possibility of a script.

there is a possibility of a scenario, the withdrawal of certain areas as payment for debts, this is quite a realistic scenario, to our great regret, yes, and we have repeatedly heard from mogu zelensky his entourage when he came to poland that between these statesmen there should be alexander, you are ahead of us, yes , here is andrey viktorovich at the end of our block. indeed, tell me if there will be, so what is the current campaign? yes, here is zelensky and his retinue again will become unprofitable for its western curator, because at the moment they are associated with the entire world community, probably by people who are the main hmm instigators of the current conflict and yet in any situation, and everyone is tired of the fact, especially now the united states of america is switching its interest, and again such people are in the direction of taiwan and understand that

their main battle is still ahead and now, can it happen that in the current 2023 the west will be forced? carry out a kind of revolution in ukraine in order to get at the head of a person more prone to compromise, but the fact is that zelensky and his people, who are now at the head of present-day ukraine, are completely controlled by the west-west. they are the chick walking in front of uh, their american and british handlers do absolutely everything. they are completely obedient, moreover, the image of zelensky that we now see is also set by the british image makers. he did not come up with it himself, therefore, in this respect , everything suits the west in terms of obedience, because zelensky will carry out any order. but sooner or later, there always comes a moment when these performers need to be disposed of, and in this regard, the fate of all such timers is

the same, something will happen to them, zelensky is now beginning to understand. you can see it in some of his phrases. including by the expression on his face, but he understands that , logically, he will be sanitized without fail and then someone else will be put in his place, who will start from scratch, but will follow the same orders. uh, this is how nature works, but perhaps zelensky still hopes that he will somehow manage to avoid it and play a vetsenyuk, that is, run across these billions that he will buy just to escape, but, most likely, zelensky will be put in history just such a point. you can say a small remark, literally one word, you said that e ukraine is calculated by entrepreneurs. uh, unfortunately, the situation is much worse, no serious investor can consider ownership of these enterprises when the country is in the e-armed zone.

conflict. this means that ukraine is really paying for the help of the west with the lives of the ukrainian military, uh, who are dying there, uh, in huge numbers, and while this is happening, uh, the flow will not dry up. the second question. uh, i don’t quite understand the logic of a possible replacement, since, in the mental picture , this implies at least the preservation of the old ukrainian government, which is located uh and is dependent on the west, but uh, the result. e. the word will mean the destruction of this power. and brand new quality here, who would have thought that today it is gaining political weight and is already uniting the remaining political projects in ukraine under its own guides and again wants to replace mr. zelensky

, this is poroshenko. uh, well i would call it the agony of this power and these political circles. but you know there is such a version. yes, but that sanctions against belarus are a kind of pressure tool for minsk’s refusal to allow international speculators to privatize large enterprises, but here do you agree with this or not? unfortunately, i cannot agree with this, the thing is that this is the conflict that we have now in all this space. uh, including the conflict in ukraine , this is an ontological conflict, uh, the west is not enough only with the state resources of belarus, they need the natural resources of all of russia, and even then, in order not even to prevent their financial collapse. it is inevitable, and in order to simply postpone it to a later date, therefore,

once seriously consider sanctions against belarus, uh, because of the property that they could, of course, earn, divide , resell and earn on it, but still not quite. e, as if real, although i remember, here is how alexander lukashenko, the president of the republic, was talking about how mr. soros came to him and talked about his brilliant projects. it was it was 20 years ago. at the beginning of two thousand. yes, then , uh, the geopolitical global project was gaining time and they were dragging property into force for privatization, resale, because on this they tried to extend the functioning of their financial systems. e. i think that now the sanctions against belarus strike against belarus first of all. and because of the choice of the civilizational path, we are an ally of russia. we stand together firmly.

we are ready to build our own macro-region on principles that are completely different from those of the collective west, and moreover, we have a social state and too many of our neighbors, including lithuanians, latvians, poles they see how this state takes care of its citizens. i do not see a striking difference already one thing. this makes us the target of not property, but precisely the choice of our own path. thank you very much, i still can’t help but remember the legendary rothschild family. so , since 2002, the black road company has been managing the assets of the rothschild family and about the connection between the rothschilds and the gas transportation system of ukraine. let's analyze in more detail in our story. on november 8, 2017,

the italian company rothschilds spa, owned by the rothschild family, won the tender for investment banking services naftogaz of ukraine in attracting an international partner to the management of the country's gas transportation system, we are talking about the fact that this route of russian gas supplies to europe should be in private hands until recently against the backdrop of russia's construction of bypass gas pipelines. it seemed that the rothschilds made a mistake in their calculations and the gts was waiting sharply for scrap metal, however, in the context of geopolitical confrontation. west with russia, the nord stream-2 project was frozen from the nord stream pipeline was blown up by sabotage, it is obvious that after the end of hostilities, the issue of russian gas supplies to the eu through ukraine will again be a topic worth billions. the rothschilds have long-standing interests in ukraine, after all, a year after the euro maidan in march. in the fifteenth year, the rothschilds bought up most

of the sovereign debt of ukraine, and even then the shareholders outlined harsh conditions for the country. according to bloomberg , an american investment fund acted as a buyer. franklin templeton, and the french rothschilds group enco, which has been operating in ukraine for a long time back in the pre-donald period, the group was engaged in financial consulting with an eye on pharmaceuticals and agriculture in the financial market, the rothschild company was a leader in the mergers and acquisitions segment , mainly in favor of poroshenko's pulse personally. she invited one of the structures of the rothschild family to manage a blind trust, where he transferred his business assets to andrey viktorovich, despite the conflict that we have today on the territory of ukraine. did not turn into a pile of scrap metal and are used for gas transit.

please tell me whether this element can be the key to establishing a further dialogue between states, or interested participants. i think it's unlikely, because it's only one episode. uh, from the picture that is emerging today. yes, really amazing. yes, ukraine is on fire. here, and gas from the transport system works, but not like clockwork, but almost like that. this suggests that there are interests, first of all, of the west, which very selective in solving problems. if they solve some problems within the framework of a hybrid war, which they did not launch against our allied state. e hybrid, because e ukrainian apu sbu and other structures. uh, the punitive battalion, they use as a proxy, that is, mercenary formations. uh, then other business-related issues, uh, for the solution of which it is

necessary, uh, working gas transmission systems. here they prefer to decide in a completely different way. uh and again hmm this is uh by the way, it’s amazing in today’s times, eh, but this is not the factor that can push the parties to, uh, negotiations on the uh settlement of the conflict alexander well , uh, to be honest, it’s not a secret for anyone that there are such deep ties , and between the elites, which, for example, are represented by mr. onatan rothschild, and the same oleg deripaska, that is, uh, there were connecting relationships, but in different periods of development, and states or, again , such political projects, if we say about the same births, but here, can this become a certain damper, which in the end do not allow? styat in the world war and will bring the case. if not, business, he, or at least to

such a cold world. well, regarding the connection between big capital, they have always been yes, after all, let's remember marx yes, there is no such crime that capital will not commit for the sake of 300 percent profit and capital does not have a homeland, that is, for them the principles are everything related to earnings everything is open for money, so the rothschilds are very tight on the territory of ukraine. like you said trying to get in in all spheres of life, in addition to the suress funds, there was a certain fund , perdio, from which came the prime minister presidential first goncharuk, who was specifically sponsored by the same roger, that is, they delegated their people to all structures and management e, directions. as for global conflicts and so on . well, let's do it, yes, if the basis of all all international relations is always the economy, yes, and the economy and the promotion of the geopolitical interests of one or another states, if we take the west, then,

probably, it is necessary to talk not about the state, but they have a conglomerate. corporate interests, therefore, it is unlikely that those merchants who are in the united states of america and in britain want to leave. uh, the marble floors of their houses. yes, and good conditions to go down to live in the basement under the threat of a nuclear bombardment, so they can tell anything, but for some tough measures, they are unlikely, if you will, here, discussing in this vein, and at this level. we create a little false picture, well, firstly, the thing is that rothschild , if you take all the shareholders and the wengert, or all the rest of these four investment funds. this, in principle, will be the poorly secured eritary shareholder, who just happened to be on the surface. yes, like a fly agaric in the forest clearing. that's why it's absolute. well, as it were, not a figure that determines real politics. uh, the second

point is the following case. the thing is that the collapse of the global world, it will happen in any case, the thing is that since the 1980s - this system has accumulated so many imbalances that we want it or want it. uh, these national groups are necessary or not, it will collapse anyway. uh, the russian leadership realized this in fact, probably one of the first and russia started. uh, a military operation to ukraine. it breaks out of this global system in order not to be buried as a wreck. uh, this is an anthological conflict, where only one stands and talks about the interests of business in relation to this conflict. this is incorrect, the thing is that here reconciliation is impossible, and in this regard, each side will be ready to go completely and to the end. but this does not mean, by the way that

the third world war will happen, i agree with me. vladimirovich, look, but, for example, we hear from the lips of the head of the belarusian state that it is now possible , the only moment to find common ground, and between ukraine and russia , because the same military machine of the russian federation is only gaining momentum and already then no one to talk to him will listen carefully to what he says president president said, just one guys. if you want to really agree to finish it, you need to now, he spoke about the intentions of the other side and said that if the russian military machine picks up speed, then there will be no way to stop it. this is just a warning about changing your approaches here. but it is a warning that, in principle, reflect correctly agree. unfortunately, so far no one hears

. moreover, i am convinced that they will not deal with their zones of influence. not determined by the truth of the world, but it will be e negotiations in which only those who will stand clearly not e business transnational circles will be present. and those who, so to speak, will represent their national governments and their national interests. at least from our side. thank you. i remind you that on the air the sass program is authorized to announce that we are approaching our third block of discussion, the merger and acquisition of poland and ukraine pushkin in the work eugene onegin brilliantly described the low deceit of relatives fussing in the bed of a terminally ill person in the hope of his legacy today in the role of such an uncle, who in earnest could not have turned out to be ukraine and inheritance. not all of god.

what part has been squandered, part has been laid down for something, and the main thing remains - it is huge by european standards, the fertile earth with black soil, the very black soil that during the occupation the german fascists were exported to germany in echelons, in general, there is something to profit from. and it is not surprising that vultures are hovering around the half-dead ukraine, jackals are circling, everyone is hoping to grab their piece. of course not left out hyenas. europe poland is more detailed about appetites more in our story to return poland to its former weight in european affairs and turn it into a new center of power as opposed to the old europe represented by germany and france, just like many political scientists. now they determine the main goals of warsaw, but for this poland needs more money from the army and territories. that is why warsaw does not seek to end the ukrainian conflict in hope. get a notorious piece of a foreign country gaining control over the western

territories of modern ukraine over so called the former eastern crosses of poland is such a longed-for dream of polish nationalists. and this is already becoming an element of national ideology, so the polish leadership is already a to refuse this idea. can the polish leadership believe that the conditions for the implementation of this idea is the collapse of ukrainian statehood as a result of a military defeat, and therefore the polish authorities do not want and oppose a peaceful settlement, assures. uh, that will

provide constant assistance to the kiev regime they do not hide their intentions in poland. truth for the public. nevertheless , they disguise themselves a little, they say this is not a seizure, but such friendship between our countries poland and ukraine will not be more than the border of this border will no longer be for us to live together. on this land, they built and rebuilt together their common happiness and common strength, almost verbatim , the statement of the polish leader. volodymyr zelensky also repeated, promising to erase any borders between the two countries in the future , there will be no political economic borders between our peoples and that is very important historical expansionist ambitions. poland and ukrainian humility. before this plan, the experts were divided into two camps, some believe that duda and zelensky signed an agreement, according to which poland will receive part of ukraine in exchange for assistance to the kiev regime. however, most experts, if

they believe in the existence of an agreement, then very much doubt that such small appetites. warsaw because in their opinion, the real goal. poland to take over the whole of ukraine not limited to just one part greed and malice hatred ambitions often grow stronger and common sense. to take over the western regions of ukraine poland let's face it, hungary romania has been dreaming for more than a dozen years, the leaders of poland have been talking all sorts of dudes of marovets, uh, with the ukrainian leadership about the confederation, and from here it’s not far to the unia, as it was once the commonwealth, perhaps poland's most ambitious plan. but ukraine alone is not enough to implement it. it is necessary to regain control over all the lands that were once part of the commonwealth a. this includes belarus

and poland’s intentions were warned by alexander lukashenko, they are preparing to invade the territory of belarus to destroy our country, they are making our white militants out of them, and simply bandits who don’t feel sorry for them , we also have this information. today they get their first experience in ukraine, though, more like cannon fodder. i am not trying to intimidate or blackmail anyone who once i say this, the lord is with them. i want to secure the belarusian state and ensure peace for the belarusian people with my history with my whole existence. my people we deserved this as a backing we don’t want to live anymore and we won’t be slaves. at the same time, warsaw as well as brussels and washington continue to interfere in the affairs of other states for

their own benefit, but this time the ambitions of european leaders have gone too far , millions of human lives are at stake. the love of the polish leadership for ukraine in the literal sense of the word. and you know, andrei viktorovich in russia, there are many voices in favor of the fact that such a scenario could theoretically suit moscow, because, exactly, western ukraine has historically been a stronghold. but cowardice and never gave most of ukraine to make their choice. yes, that was always the engine of these endless revolutions of change of power, what do you think above? is there such a scenario in the minds of certain political circles in the russian federation well , the divisions of ukraine, moscow will never suit. regardless of who will participate,

like poland or where its western masters are real. this is important to understand, first of all. i'm here because people live in ukraine who are close to us, uh, both in language and spirit. they are brotherly people. still, it's important to understand this. but uh, if the question is, uh, did zelensky agree on the partition of ukraine before the meeting with the duta, more precisely, uh, payment from ukraine for polish assistance, which the current ukrainian county needs now as air is the territory of ukraine, then i ’m just er, as it was said by the minority and spirits who believe that yes , i am sure that such an agreement was discussed and possibly concluded and it does not matter. in what form in writing or in the mouth, but uh, knowing what are you like zelensky here. i'm sure he didn't force him. it was he

himself who went on this yes, and he is considering. it's like a business deal you can make before escaping somewhere in miami on the trail. but, therefore, most likely, it is, uh, very close to reality. this is , firstly, and secondly, those statements that are made about a and about borders. this is just a slip of the tongue according to freud and about the conference. from the confederation - this is a scheme for rejecting the alienation of the territory of ukraine e, in order to cover up this possible sale or transfer, but what is a confederation, on the one hand, you can always convince the people of ukraine that it’s nothing to surrender. it's just a union, on the other hand, a confederation is a type of federation and it is a form of existence of a union state with a weak federal center. but if uh, they will have two centers with a very weak one, kiev and a very

strong one, warsaw, who will obviously pull over after a while. so this federation will simply cease to be a confederation, and the territories on territory will be organized by polish rule. well, there was already such a historical period, to burn down the commonwealth with the grand duchy of lithuania the grand duchy of lithuania very quickly lost its e, its independence and subjectivity completely, and e absolutely agrees with this kaif, e the only thing, if you allow such a slight lyrical digression. you started talking about the fact that in russia there are people who say that this is such an option. uh, the division of ukraine is possible, and so on. even those people who say that it is possible to negotiate and stop the war , you know, i was reminded of an episode from the movie the godfather, when michael coroleone. a asks about his father don, who has already moved away, finished the question. how can i identify a traitor

in my own ranks. so the answer was very simple, the first one who comes to you with a proposal to negotiate and there will be a traitor. that's why it's a very simple thing. there is logic, intentions, there is logic, circumstances and real historical process. e, u poland has a virus of imperialism. it's a land power if it gets, uh, control. in some territory, they will simply remake all the inhabitants of these territories into poles in the second third generation, and what will they do? it will be very tough and uncompromisingly another matter that they simply will not succeed. since the logic of the end of this conflict and the conflict is not between russia and ukraine, not between russia and poland, but between russia and the national cluster of transnational corporations to win. maybe just one side. and so who will win, and we have no doubt

that it will be russia and belarus as well, that is, there is our region. uh, alexander will gain control over this entire territory, but continuing, as well as replicas of distinguished guests. i would like to ask you if it has become a kind of cold souls for ukrainian society, and the introduction of a barr for the export of ukrainian grain from neighboring states. you know, now it is very difficult to determine the mood of society, since sociological studies of the territory of ukraine do not work, but based on communication with close friends, yes, who express their attitude, many people were shocked, and many expected a similar approach from western partners and those who understand the true face, yes, western imperialism and in the face more, in principle, as a vassal of the united states of america and no one was surprised on the one hand, he says that this is a fraternal

state, which is ready to help in every possible way. well, when the question comes to money, it arises, like the panikovsky remnants of ibrahimovic when we share our money. as a matter of fact, what is happening and i would like to add to what my colleagues in the studio said about more ukraine indeed. this plan has been discussed for more than a year. so he was heard precisely according to the confederation's project of such a soft entry and soft accession. and it went near some western regions of ukraine. i don’t know, it was agreed. it is not agreed, uh, with agreeing that it will be unrealistic but that the moment of paying off debts is due to the colossal infusion that is now happening and has happened before. he sooner or should have come late. how to pay the state, which destroyed the infrastructure of the industry is not work. here is the economy. well, to put it mildly, it does not develop. yes, it is in a steep peak, there is nothing else but the territory, therefore it is quite possible that such

a political subject as poland, which is a debtor of the same united states of america, has been chosen. let's not forget that the poles do not have any economy of their own 250 billion dollars grants and constantly give back. this is a state and from the european budget yes from other organisms so that they can show development. yes, to be a kind of showcase, as it was originally intended and of course, when combined, it is very symbolic for them, yes, and profitable. but i'm sure it won't. thank you alexander well, we will continue our program and would like each of our speakers to give the final word, which will sum up what we talked about today, please look. i think that the process that is going on today is very difficult and they , uh, first of all, challenge our fortitude, uh, and firmness in moving forward on the course we've chosen, uh.

unfortunately for ukraine, all these processes will end very badly, and most likely, it will be the liquidation of the state and, uh, the divisions of ukraine, selling it off with a tent, because those are the allies, uh, who now support the current ukrainian junta. they will become its gravediggers, but, on the ruins of this , a new measure will grow, a device that will be fair and where there will be no place for these predators that we see today in the world. please to the audience and may c i hope we are watched and hmm ukraine in general, to say that there is nothing personal under the sun. yes, and everything is changing and this is power, and here the protectorate and what is happening, it will also pass. take care of yourself and loved ones and

save yourself your strength. andrey vladimirovich and i would like, well, i fully agree with the thesis of all. uh, well, very unpleasant experiences , difficult experiences, so i would like to express solidarity, uh, with simple ukrainian gra-ends. uh, just simply live. and so i would like to tell them that we in solidarity with them, we sympathize with them and always accepting help sooner or later is incredibly grateful to all participants in our discussion. thanks a lot. andrei vladimirovich, as a ukrainian, today's discussion cannot inspire me, but nevertheless, it's a bitter truth. sweet lies are always better. ukraine has brought money new opportunities and perspectives to many people, but only to a few of its ordinary people, citizens who are held captive by myths or people. why don't ukrainians themselves notice this?

here it will be honest to recall the famous lines are prohibited. there is now alexander sergeevich pushkin in ukraine. ah , it is not difficult to deceive me. i myself am deceived by joy. thanks a lot. it was the program. sasha is authorized to declare. the tragedy of ukraine is that it went to those who need it the least. we follow the sports life of our country, the international federation of various sports continues to make a decision on the admission of belarusian and russian athletes to competitions in anticipation and judoka. the participation of belarusian athletes at the paris summer games remains the main the goal is to find out how new heights are reached 17 years ago, natalia tsivilskaya rewrote the history of cycling in our country

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i was born in the city of novopolotsk, my mother was a salesman , my father was a mechanic at a car depot. me too in mine time doing sports. i had a mother , she had three mountain climbs, and my father was a master of sports in swimming. i didn’t think that i had any vision problems, that is , the doctors told me that it was just myopia, which every second one now has at school. it was already noticed when i entered the school of the olympic reserve that i do not pass all the parameters for playing sports. that's especially for professional sports. that is, if it was still at the level of overdrying, it was, as it were, well, permissible, then already in

specialized schools. well, that was all. i was not given admission to the national team, and then we made a decision with the coach that, probably, it would be better for me to be a coach. she was very hurt somewhere in her soul, but she did not show much of her mind. it was insanely difficult, it was, i would say , it hurts a lot when your dream was taken away from you simply because you just don’t pass by some parameters. here, and then, well, i just got used to it. i mean, i don't. here but she was not given until the last very great willpower. she's got a lot of tenacity in 2009 when she was about to finish school. ah. i met coach perepechkin, who was already working with mogilev

paralympians at that time. he says let's try. maybe you can make it. that's where he helped me. he arranged training camps with the paralympic athletes for me, and somehow we tried to get into the paralympic team, but i