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tv channel . . this is a program for those who want to better understand what is happening in the world and understand how these processes, events, people will affect the life of everyone and the life of the country, and the main events of world politics this week. we will tell right now, chinese president xi jinping had a telephone conversation with ukrainian president vladimir zelensky, this was their first communication since the start of the russian spice operation, and ukrainian diplomacy took a long time to get a call. from beijing, transmitting signals there, even through

the french leader emmanuel macron, as expected, he devoted most of the conversation to discussing his peace plan, which the republic of belarus supported one of the first while official kiev, under pressure from its western curators, actually chinese rejected the initiative. she was also not mentioned in the press release of president zelensky's office following the conversation. but the president of ukraine noted that he was sure that under the leadership of xi jinking. china will cope with various challenges. also in kiev, they are waiting for the visit of the special representative of the prc for eurasian affairs, who also plans to visit neighboring countries to discuss ways to achieve peace in ukraine. what happened was a diplomatic failure of the united states, which sees china as its main competitor and does not want to let it strengthen its global authority through conflict mediation. in addition, now the eu countries will be able to refer to the zelensky sik dialogue as a reason to refrain from taking drastic steps

against china, which the venezuelan opposition leader is pushing them towards washington. juan guaido reported that the colombian authorities had deported him from the country to boga, he planned to attend an international conference on suili on april 25, but the colombian authorities said that only representatives of the countries invited to the dialogue in january 2019 would attend amid mass following protests, mr. guaido proclaimed himself provisionally acting president of venezuela in august of the same year, he announced the creation of his own government. he was supported by the united states and most of europe at the end of 2022, the opposition assembly of venezuela approved the liquidation of the interim government under the leadership. juan goido in april became. it is known that the opposition has lost access to blocked accounts of venezuela in the united states the expulsion from colombia of a close us ally in south america is a sign

that washington is putting an end to supporting this a fugitive venezuelan politician and probably paves the way for the normalization of relations with the authorities of venezuela russia iran syria turkey discussed in moscow issues of strengthening security in syria and the normalization of syrian-turkish relations the integrity of syria and the need to intensify efforts. for the speedy return of syrian refugees to their homeland, the heads of defense departments. especially emphasized the constructive nature of the dialogues held. in this format , and the need to continue it in the interests of further stabilizing the situation in the syrian arab republic and the region as a whole , the ministry of well, let's start our program

, the following words are attributed to the great commander of the 18th century, queen of prussia, frederick ii. if our soldiers knew why we were howling, it would be impossible to wage not a single war on today's program once again, referring to the topic of the conflict in ukraine, we will talk about those powerful people of the world this one, who is clearly and clearly aware of what they are fighting and fighting for, playing the ukrainian card to throw off the masks from the real beneficiaries. benefit of the purchasers of the conflict for the ukrainian inheritance. andrey vladimirovich savinykh, chairman of the standing committee on international affairs of the house of representatives of the national assembly and the republic of belarus, will help me today . hello and andrey viktorovich manuela, doctor of political sciences , professor of gmo hello. good afternoon, by tradition, we start our program with blitz question. do you think ukraine boasting will continue as a state in the foreseeable future andrei vladimirovich what do you

think? well, i think that no one knows the answer to this question today, but if we talk about probabilities, then the best chance that ukraine has will remain as a territory of the people and maybe as a state entity - this is, uh, the fastest victory of russia and control russian side over the entire territory of ukraine in this case, perhaps quite the best solution. yes thank you please ukraine's sovereignty has already been lost, so talk about a sovereign state. e with regard to ukraine is possible only with a very big stretch, and the question is whether ukraine will retain its territorial integrity in the current conditions, and in the near future. so i think that there is a very high chance that ukraine will fall apart, because you give territories, and the service zone that

was formed on the territory of the once prosperous ukraine, uh, is now being watched by western predators, uh, in which ukraine is still since he sees his allies, ukrainian political scientist joins our broadcast alexander immediately addresses the issue of our program and you do you think ukraine will be able to survive in the foreseeable future as a state. hello dear friends and viewers. well, depending on what we mean by the state. yes, i agree with a colleague whom i just listened to. if there are questions about the sovereignty of independence, sets of some levers for making decisions of independence and other things, then ukraine, to my great regret, lost all these levers back in the thirteenth year, when it entered the protectorate of the united states of america. do you know that today's program will be divided into three blocks? ukraine under the hammer, how they sell the whole country, so i would call our first

block, because at the end of last year in kiev, vladimir zelensky was the chief executive officer of the black lari company. fink entered into an agreement to coordinate investment efforts to restore ukraine by directing investments in the most relevant and effective sectors of the ukrainian economy, it is noted that by the end of the year kiev this washington will receive 13 billion dollars for direct budgetary support to the government to avoid a deficit and complete bankruptcy of the country, andrew is a game. the truth sounds good. yes, especially considering that the ukrainian society has been living for a very long time with the hope of helping us abroad. but in fact, one cannot only mix real actions with a propaganda campaign. i think that no direct investment or investment in the development of the social economic sector. no one will do anything to ukraine, especially black certain financial resources, perhaps they will be allocated in order to maintain at least some level of control

in the country while it leads. uh, fighting against russia. that's the only goal, that is, in essence. uh, well, to support the government as much as possible in their confrontation with russia, so to speak, and that's it. well, unfortunately, we have to admit that black rock is a key beneficiary of the current conflict in ukraine , but i would like to tell a little more in detail to explain to dear viewers, what is this company, founded in 1988 year for 35 years. this american financial company has grown into a company that owns the world, managing over ten trillion dollars in assets. a software platform called aladdin has worked to analyze risks for its clients the platform receives confidential data from

banks, insurance companies and other important institutions through aladdin black rock receives information about the management of financial assets worth about $ 23 million black rock also owns shares and voting rights in many largest european companies in sectors such as energy, oil, gas, transport, food, and, of course, finance, the company holds the public debt of various countries in the form of bonds and has shares in real estate. us investment company black corruption scheme is as follows us fund. black rock is closely connected with the financial elite, usa fuck, it's millions of dollars for the restoration of ukraine block rock sends money to investment

dragon capital fund, specially created to promote us policy to ukraine, part of the funds remains in ukraine for the appearance of recovery, most of them go to corruption schemes with the participation of ukrainian politicians and the main multi-million dollar capital is withdrawn offshore, from which the money is already being returned back to the united states under the guise of donor assistance for the democratic party alexander i think you are familiar with this scheme only because many opposition politicians do not agree with the chosen course. the same mr. zelensky or the same mr. poroshenko is well remembered. that at some point ukraine turned into an offshore zone for the united states of america yes, hope and remember them with great regret, when we spoke about this publicly urged not to do so. so they called for the preservation of statehood and were betrayed by repression. yes, and we all have been declared suspected of high

treason; someone has already been declared it in absentia. yes , and so on. uh states, ukraine yes and black rock companies are actually such a phenomenal corporation in fact, uh, which, in close connection with the federal reserve system, is in close connection with the international monetary fund. they come to assist in any state. this is chekhov. three sisters in fact, that is, they always work in the same direction and promote the interests of cosmo-economic capital. i thought it was no secret to anyone, as they already said, that one of the densest corporations. since 2002, she has been managing the assets of seven relatives, yes and other, uh, families and financial oligarchies of the international and when such corporations enter the territory. an unstable state with conflicts, they are unlikely to invest anything. they come in on pretext. you know, in 2004. these are economic killers, where they actually described step-by-step instructions on how such

corporations work. yes, how they send people there , they are under the control of the government, they take control of all kinds of funds, ngos, uh , supervisory boards. you nadezhda just mentioned the dragon capital organization in ukraine, it is very well-known. yes, this is a certain tomas fial, and it is headed by e dragon capital is a subsidiary of the fund to you fund. mantum is the foundation of george soros, that is, in fact, this is a whole bunch of space-e economic oligarchy. with the advent of zelensky to the government, they appointed their people, appointed supervisory boards and, in fact, put all state authorities under control and absolutely agree with you on the commercial side. andrey, which i would like to draw attention to, but in fact there was a circle, you know how. and kraki, here it has sprouted into all spheres of human life. and again, we will see that part of their shares, but invested in companies that

manufacture weapons, that is , the military-industrial complex has a beneficial side. now, again, supplying weapons to ukraine and in addition, even in the event of the defeat of ukraine, most of the ukrainian enterprises have already been bought by the same americans. and how can you tell, please, this scheme is working at the moment, because i think andrei vladimirovich will agree with me that the appetites of mr. soros and the company in relation to the republic belarus were quite large in their time, but the scheme works to the limit. i just want to note that this company is not independent. this is a padding in those financial transactions that are carried out between uh, the elite of the united states and uh, again under the control of, uh, them ukrainian politicians politicians from many countries, because, well, everything is extremely simple in ukraine. there is an armed conflict, an armed conflict is such a black hole that

creates ideal conditions for laundering any investments. this is where billions can go. tens of hundreds of billions will dissolve there without a trace, because, in the conditions of hostilities, it is not clear what they, uh, produced, what they rebuilt. if something was built, then the same one was destroyed. uh, and uh, this is the perfect moment. uh, get some money in there. moreover, money cannot be donated to the ukrainian side in order for it to develop there for some time ; well, apparently some the remnants of the industry there, that is, everything that can be sold, and then start, uh, that's it, it is sung with the help of the same zelensky team and leaves, uh, laurels and then comes back. e. the states are an ideal scheme, here it always

works under these conditions, and the final e guilty in this scheme, it turns out, who are the ukrainian officials, because they are frontmen. here they are the only ones who are in sight money came to them broke up, you can literally have a small addition, i completely agree with the description of the scheme, only one very interesting detail. uh, no one transfers money anywhere, all american dollars are in the accounts of american life and are simply recorded under various items. and the decision is made. in general, an average bank manager black rock - this is not the only one. as a matter of fact, this is a serious investment company, which is used for these purposes , there are only four of them, if we already mention black rock let's remember hungarian state street and philipti. well, as a matter of fact, these are all tools in order to sort of lean. uh, periphery countries and here's another one

very interesting point, we mentioned, is the american elite here too. as a matter of fact, you, uh, had photographs, well, like representatives of the american government. yes , including the president. so these people do not have, uh, sovereignty in decision-making ; they, uh, are also dummy. well, a little bit better than the ukrainian officials, but by and large they don't make a decision. they serve interests. and not even the american elite, but the national financial elite, which has long since broken away from american soil. although she was born there sometime and, uh, acts all over the world for them, the united states of america is the same territory as, conditionally, china, russia or australia, and if there is a need, and they don’t rush, the united states of america in this and we can say even a very interesting phrase that the united states of america as

a nation-state does not have national sovereignty. we can say differently, we can even say that the republic of belarus has much more national sovereignty than united states of america, it's paradoxical , it may sound sensational, but it accurately reflects. here is the reason for the investigative financial connection of all these operations. and here i would also like to add that black rock at the moment has already gained control over the most important enterprises in ukraine that were nationalized by ukrainian oligarchs. just think about it, the us already owns such industrial energy and logistics giants of ukraine as metanvest dek agro-industrial holding. hp naftogaz. ukrainian drank through condorfiling. climb through the rail capitank markets in network as well as ukravtodor and ukrenergo, and

in fact, having taken assets from the oligarchs under the guise of fighting them, zelensky and his entourage came up with an original scheme to enrich themselves by selling the largest national resources to americans alexander, you see, today. uh, unfortunately, there is no balance of opinions in today's ukraine, and therefore it is difficult for me to imagine that at least a small part of ukrainian society knows and understands this. what consequences can await. that is one thing when that's part of society dreams are coming, rather even so about some kind of abstract victory, but something else, that after the end of the war awaits ukraine. what scenario is possible? i hope, to my great regret , i agree with you. after all , not a single mass media remained on the territory of ukraine

; all mass media were replaced by mass media agitation, advertising and propaganda. moreover, the propaganda specifically of the office of president zelensky and his inner circle, which is again controlled by western partners. that is what happens to people are not being informed people do not have the opportunity to get this alternative to the single marathon of news they are broadcasting. they say in it that everything is fine in the country, that everything will be rebuilt, they will give money and we will live. very happy. yes, but it doesn't explain who should give the money. why and to whom it is beneficial, judging by what is happening, you mentioned the possibility of a scenario at the beginning of the broadcast. there is a possibility of a scenario, the withdrawal of certain areas as payment for debts, this is quite a realistic scenario to a huge unfortunately, yes, and we have repeatedly heard from mogu zelensky his entourage, when he came to poland, that among these statesmen there should be alexander, you are ahead of us, yes,

andrey viktorovich is at the end of our block. indeed, tell me if there will be, so what is the current campaign? yes, zelensky and his retinue, again , will become unprofitable for his western curator, because at the moment they are associated with the entire world community, probably by people who are the main hmm instigators of the current conflict and yet in any situation , and everyone is tired of that, especially now the united states of america is switching their interest, and again such people are in the direction of taiwan and understand that their main battle is yet to come and now , can it happen that in the current 2023 the west will be forced? to carry out a kind of revolution in ukraine in order to get a person more inclined to compromise at the head, but the fact is that zelensky and

his people, who are now at the head of current ukraine, they are completely controlled west - west. they tiptoe in front of uh, their american and british handlers do absolutely everything. they are completely obedient, moreover, the image of zelensky that we now see is also set by the british image makers. he didn’t come up with it himself. therefore, in this respect, in terms of obedience, everything suits the west because zelensky will carry out any order. but sooner or later , there always comes a moment when these performers need to be disposed of, and in this regard, the fate of everyone in such nats, it is the same. e with them something will happen, zelensky is now beginning to understand. you can see it in some of his phrases. including by the expression on his face, but he understands that , logically, he will be sanitized and then someone else will be put in his place,

who will start from scratch, but will follow the same orders. uh, this is how nature works, but perhaps zelensky still hopes that he will somehow manage to avoid it and play vetsenyuk, that is , run across the billions that he will buy just to escape, but, most likely, in history zelensky will put exactly such a point . you can say a small remark, literally one word, that ukraine is calculated by enterprises. e, unfortunately, the situation is much worse, no serious investor can consider ownership of these enterprises when the country is in a zone of armed conflict. this means that ukraine is really paying for the help of the west with the lives of the ukrainian military, uh, who are dying there, uh, in huge numbers, and while this is happening with uh, the flow will not dry up the second question.

uh, i don’t quite understand the logic of a possible replacement, since, in the mental picture, this implies at least the preservation of the old ukrainian government, which is, uh, and depending on the west , but uh, the result, uh, will just mean the destruction of this authorities. and a completely new quality, who would have thought today is gaining political weight and is already uniting the remaining political projects in ukraine under its guides and again wants to replace mr. zelensky , this is poroshenko well, i accept you, since joke. you see everything in the fact that this is also a solution for ukraine. this is essentially the case. uh, well, i would call it the agony of this power of these political circles. but you know there is such a version. yes, and that sanctions against

belarus are a kind of pressure tool for minsk's refusal to allow international speculators to privatize large enterprises, but do you agree with this or not? unfortunately, i cannot agree with this, the thing is that this is the conflict that we have now in all this space. uh, including the conflict on ukraine is an ontological conflict, the west is not enough only with the state resources of belarus, they need the natural resources of all of russia and that in order not even to prevent their financial collapse. it is inevitable, but in order to simply postpone it to a later date, so if we seriously consider sanctions against belarus, uh, because of the property that they could, of course, earn, divide , resell and make money on it, but still not really. uh, as if real, although i remember,

that's how alexander lukashenko is president the republic was talking about how mr. soros came to him and talked about his brilliant projects. it was it was 20 years ago. at the beginning of two thousand. yes , then, uh, the political global project was gathering time and they were dragging property into force for privatization and resale, because they were trying to prolong, uh, the functioning of their financial system. e. i think that now the sanctions against belarus strike against belarus first of all. because of the choice of the civilizational path, we are russia's ally we stand together firmly. we are ready to build our own macro-region on principles that are completely different from those of the collective west, and moreover , we have a social state and too many of our neighbors,

including lithuanians, latvians, poles. they see how this state takes care of its citizens. i do not see a striking difference already one thing. this makes us the target of not property, but precisely the choice of our own path. thank you very much, i still can’t help but remember the legendary rothschild family. so the blackroad company has been managing the assets of the rothschild family and the connection between the rothschilds and the gas transportation system of ukraine let's analyze in more detail in our story. on november 8, 2017, the italian company rothschilds spa, owned by the rothschild family, won the tender for investment banking services of naftogaz of ukraine in attracting an international partner to manage the country's gas transportation system. the point is that this route of russian

gas supplies to europe should be in private hands until recently time against the background of the building russia bypass gas pipelines. it seemed that the rothschilds made a mistake in their calculations and the gts was waiting sharply for scrap metal, however, in the context of geopolitical confrontation. west with russia, the nord stream-2 project turned out to be frozen and the nord stream pipeline was blown up by sabotage, it is obvious that after the end of hostilities, the issue of russian gas supplies to the eu through ukraine will again be a topic for billions. the rothschilds have long-standing interests in ukraine, after all, a year after the euro maidan in march. in the fifteenth year, the rothschilds bought up most of sovereign debt of ukraine, and even then the shareholders outlined tough conditions for the country. according to bloomberg , an american investment fund acted as a buyer.

franklin templeton, and the french group rothschilds, enco, which has long been operating in ukraine in the pre-1990s, the group was engaged in financial consulting with an eye on pharmaceuticals and agriculture in the financial market, the rothschilds company was a leader in the m&a segment as an intermediary to settle loan obligations with the imf mainly in favor of polish companies and italian banks, and in august 2014, poroshenko personally invited one of the structures by all the rothschilds to manage blind transport, where he transferred his business assets to andrei viktorovich, despite the conflict that we have today on the territory of ukraine, the gas transportation system of ukraine so far, it has not turned into a pile of scrap metal and is used for gas transit. please tell me whether this element can be the key to establishing a further dialogue between states, or interested participants. i think it's

unlikely, because it's only one episode. uh, from the picture that is emerging today. yes, really amazing. yes, ukraine is on fire. well, the gas from the transport system works, but not like clockwork, but uh, almost like it . if they solve some problems within the framework of a hybrid war, which they did not launch against our allied state. uh hybrid because uh ukrainian apu sbu and other structures. uh, the punitive battalion, they use as a proxy, that is, mercenary formations. uh, then other business-related issues, uh, for the solution of which it is necessary, uh, working gas transmission systems. here they prefer to decide in a completely different way. uh, and again. hmm this is an amazing moment. eh, in modern times, ah, but this is not the factor that

can push the parties to, er, negotiations on the settlement of the conflict alexander well, er, to be honest, it's no secret to anyone, that there are such deep ties, and between the elites, which, for example, are represented by mr. onatan rothschild, and by the same oleg deripaska, that is, uh, there were connecting relationships, but in different periods of development, and states or, again, such political projects, if we are talking about the same role of dalds, but here, can this become a certain damper, which in the end will not be allowed? styat in the world war and will bring the case. if not, business, is it something, at least to such a cold world. well, regarding the connection, between big capital, they have always been yes, after all, let's remember marx yes, there is no such crime that capital will not commit for the sake of 300 percent

profit, capital does not have a homeland, that is, for them, in principle, everything related to making money is open, therefore the rothschilds and on the territory of ukraine is very dense. as you said, they tried to enter into all spheres of life, in addition to the suress funds, there was a certain fund, perdio, from which the prime minister presidential first goncharuk came out, which was specifically sponsored by the same roger, then they have delegated their people to all structures and managerial, uh, directions. as for global conflicts and so on . well, let's do it, yes, if the basis of all all international relations is always the economy, yes, and the economy and the promotion of the geopolitical interests of this or that state, if we take the west, then, probably, it is necessary to talk not about the state, but they have a conglomerate. corporate interests, therefore, it is unlikely that those merchants who are in the united states of america and in britain want to leave. uh, marble floors of their houses.

yes, and good conditions to go down to live in the basement under the threat of nuclear bombing, so they can tell anything, but they are unlikely to take any harsh measures, if you will, uh, discussing in this vein, and on this level. we create a little bit of a false picture, well, firstly, the thing is that rothschild, if you take all the shareholders and the wengert, or all the rest of these four investment funds. this, in principle, will be little provided precisely by the eritary shareholders, which just happened to be on the surface. yes, like a fly agaric in the forest clearing. that's why it's absolute. well, as it were, not a figure that determines real politics. uh, the second point is the following case. the thing is that the collapse of the global world, it will happen in any case, the thing is that since the 1980s, this system has accumulated so many

imbalances that we want it or want it. uh, these national groups are necessary or not, it will collapse anyway. uh, the russian leadership realized this in fact, probably one of the first and russia started. uh, a military operation to ukraine. it breaks out of this global system in order not to be buried as a wreck. uh, this is an anthological conflict, where only one stands and talks about the interests of business in relation to this conflict. this is incorrect, the thing is that reconciliation is impossible here, and in this regard, each side will be ready to go completely to the end. but this does not mean, by the way, that the third world war will happen according to me. vladimirovich, look, but, for example, we hear from the lips of the head of the belarusian state that it is now possible, the only moment to find

common ground, and between ukraine and russia , because the same military machine of the russian federation is only gaining momentum and only then no one can talk to anyone with him will listen carefully to what the president says the president said, just one guys. if you want to really negotiate, then you need to do it. now he spoke about the intentions of the other side and said that if the russian military machine picks up speed, then it will already be stopped no perhaps this is just a warning about changing your approaches here, but this is a warning that , in principle, reflects the logic of belarus' foreign policy, our vision of the world and our call to all questions. you decide peacefully. it's not a fact that we have someone to hear correctly? unfortunately, so far no one has heard or listened, i am convinced of one thing that no one

will hear, until these parties, until the main geopolitical players deal with their zones of influence, are not determined by e, what will be the configuration of their macro-regions. only then, perhaps , will the time come for negotiations, for the sake of peace, but it will be uh negotiations, which will be attended only by those who will clearly resist not uh, business transnational circles. and those who, so to speak, will represent their national governments and their national interests. at least from our side. thank you at the weekend you can go in for sports to clean up the house, or you can explore our beautiful belarus in my city, the

warmest memories and i'm ready again walk along its streets. today i build my route and send a visit to the polishuk museum. here is the tool. here is polischuk, that's the thing. these are the arrowhead scrapers, we will visit the only ski factory. masha is right here. this area is the preparation of ski components and assembly. uh, ski package. let's get acquainted with the device of the mill. if a person incorrectly supplies the amount of grain, then he does not have it. at this temperature , the flour inside turned into sticky shoulders. maxim is called paste. see in the program the route is built on our tv channel. we will introduce you to people who keep the history of the road of war in the largest hall of our museum, and various types of equipment and weapons are presented here. and this is real,

that is, here the child goes and asks this question all the time, especially when he looks at tanks or planes with those who help us not to forget. most importantly, we are bringing missing soldiers home. each item, in fact, has its own history, and we tell everything about their difficult business about this. i i have been working in the museum for about 10 years and not one day of mine is like another from a person's point of view. it may seem that the work of a restorer is to tint, grease, and patch up, but no, in fact, the work must, before watching, follow, again, delve into the history of one day on belarus 24 tv channel . a strong power of content should have a bright, attractive form. principles and values ​​to uphold. that's what it means that we

will suffer or there are many other ways answer. we are preparing for the world. want to avoid war become even stronger. here's for myself. i have drawn enough conclusions from those events. what would you do differently today. we must work with the youth. we must fight for them, everywhere in schools at events on literature in culture, if a person’s consciousness is enlightened, if there is truth, then his activity will be a creative upward progressive project markov nothing personal dialogue with professionals and leading experts in the field of politics, economics, science and business, look at the channel.

belarus 24 i remind you that on the air the program sas is authorized to announce that we are approaching our third block of discussion, mergers and acquisitions poland and ukraine pushkin in the work eugene onegin brilliantly described the low deceit of relatives fussing in the bed of a terminally ill person in the hope of his inheritance today in the role of such an uncle , which, in earnest, could not have turned out to be ukraine and the inheritance. not all of god. what part is squandered, part is laid on something , all the same, it remains, and most importantly, these are huge by european standards, the fertile earth is black soil, the same black soil that, during the occupation, the german fascists exported to germany in echelons in general. what to profit from and it is not surprising that vultures hover around half-dead ukraine, circling jackals, everyone hopes to snip off their piece

of course, poland does not stay away from the hygiene of europe. more details about poland's appetites in our story to return poland to its former weight in european affairs and turn it into a new center of power as opposed to old europe. in the face germany and france are just so many political scientists. now they determine the main goals of warsaw, but for this poland needs more money from the army and territories. that is why warsaw does not seek to end the ukrainian conflict in hope. to get a notorious piece of a foreign country, gaining control over the uh western territories of modern ukraine over the so-called former eastern armchairs of poland is such a longed-for polish dream. nationalists and this is already becoming an element of national ideology, therefore, from this idea, the polish leadership already, a cannot refuse

, the polish leadership believes that the conditions for the implementation of this idea are hmm, the collapse of ukrainian statehood as a result of a military defeat, and therefore the polish authorities do not want and oppose a peaceful settlement, assures. e that will provide constant assistance to the kiev regime in poland do not hide their intentions. truth for the public. nevertheless , they disguise themselves a little, they say this is not a capture, but such friendship between our countries. greater ukraine will no longer border this border anymore it will not be that we live together on this land , building and rebuilding together our common happiness and common strength

, vladimir zelensky repeated the statement of the polish leader almost verbatim and promised. erase any borders between the two countries in the future , there will be no political economic borders between our peoples and, what is very important , historically aggressive ambitions. poland and ukrainian humility. before this plan , the experts were divided into two camps , some believe that duda and zelensky signed an agreement, according to which poland will receive part of ukraine in exchange for assistance to the kiev regime. however, most experts, if they believe in the existence of an agreement, then very much doubt such small appetites. warsaw because in their opinion, the real goal. poland to take all of ukraine without being limited to just one part greed and hatred ambitions often grow stronger and common sense to take over the western regions of

ukraine the leadership of the confederation and from here it’s not far to the union in the way it once was to return the polish-lithuanian commonwealth, perhaps the most ambitious plan of poland. but ukraine alone is not enough for its implementation. it is necessary to return control over all the lands that were once part of the rech commonwealth a. this is including belarus, and alexander lukashenko warned her more intentions, they are preparing to invade the territory of belarus to destroy our country. they make our white militants, but in a simple way they don’t feel sorry for them bandits no pity. we also have this information. first experience. today they get to ukraine the truth, more like cannon fodder. i am not

trying to intimidate or blackmail anyone, i am talking about this again and again. the lord is with them. i want to secure the belarusian state and ensure peace for the belarusian people with my history with my whole existence. my people deserve it under the whip, we don’t want to live anymore and we won’t be slaves warsaw and brussels and washington continue to interfere in the affairs of other states for their own benefit, but this time european leaders' ambitions have gone too far, millions of human lives are at stake. yes, you see, such boundless love of the polish leadership for ukraine in the literal sense of the word. and you know, andrei viktorovich in russia, there are many voices in favor of the fact that such a scenario could theoretically suit moscow, because, precisely, western ukraine

has historically been a stronghold. that's cowardice and never allowed most of ukraine to make their choice. yes, that has always been the engine of these endless revolutions of change authorities. in your opinion, is there a similar scenario in the minds of certain political circles in the russian federation? but moscow will never be satisfied with the execution of ukraine. regardless of whether someone will participate, like poland or where its western masters are real. yes, this is the first thing to understand. that's because ukraine is home to people who are close to us both in language and in spirit. this is a brother, it is still important to understand. ah, but uh, if the question is whether zelensky agreed before the meeting with the duda

on the partition of ukraine, more precisely, uh, reckoning with part of ukraine for polish assistance, which the current ukrainian junta needs now. as air is the territory of ukraine, i’m just referring to what was said by a minority of experts who believe that yes , i’m sure that such an agreement was discussed and possibly concluded and does not matter. in what form in writing or orally, but uh, knowing what zelensky is like. i'm sure he didn't force him. it was he who went for it yes, and he steams. it's like a business deal, it's possible to conclude on before escaping somewhere in miami , uh, trope. that's why, most likely, it's , uh, very close to reality. this is, firstly, and secondly, those statements that are made about a and about borders. this is just a slip of the tongue according to freud and about confederation. from the confederation, this is a scheme

for alienating the territory of ukraine , e.g., in order to cover up this possible sale or transfer. but what is a confederation conflict, on the one hand, you can always convince the people of ukraine that this is nothing e nothing to surrender. it’s just a union, on the other hand, a confederation is a type of federation and this is a form of existence of a union state with a weak federal center, but if they have two centers with a very weak one, kiev and a very strong warsaw, who will outweigh it, and obviously after a while this federation will simply stop be a confederation, and the territories within the territory will be organized by polish administration. well, there was already such a historical period, to burn the commonwealth with the grand duchy of lithuania the grand duchy of lithuania very quickly lost its e, its independence and subjectivity completely, and , e, absolutely agree

with this one. in this option. uh, the possible division of ukraine and so on. there is a mistake, those people who say that you can negotiate and stop the war, you know, it reminded me of an episode from the movie the godfather, when michael kingone. e asks a question about her father don, who has already retired. how can i identify a traitor in my own ranks. so the answer was very simple, the first one who comes to you with a proposal to negotiate and there will be a traitor. that's why it's a very simple thing. there is logic, intentions, there is logic, circumstances and real historical process. uh, poland has the imperial virus. it's a land power if it gets, uh, control. in some territory, they

will simply remake the entire inhabitants of these territories into polyakov ii third generation, and to do? it will be very tough and uncompromisingly another matter that they simply will not succeed. since the logic of the end of this conflict and the conflict is not between russia and ukraine, not between russia and poland, but between russia and the national cluster of transnational corporations to win. maybe just one side. and so who will win, and we have no doubt that it will be russia and belarus as well, that is, there is our region. uh, alexander will gain control of this entire territory, but continuing, eh replicas of distinguished guests. i would like to ask you if the ukrainian society has not become a kind of cold souls, but the introduction of barrga for the export of ukrainian grain from the neighborhood.

you know, now it is very difficult to determine the mood of society, since sociological studies of the territory of ukraine are not working, we are based on communication with close friends, yes, who express their attitude, many people were shocked, and many expected a similar approach from western partners and those who understand the true the face, yes, of western imperialism and in the face more, in principle, as a vassal of the united states of america and no one was surprised by this, on the one hand, he says that this is a fraternal state, which is ready to help in every possible way. well, when the question comes to money, it arises, like the rest of the panikovsky ibrahimovic when we share our money. as a matter of fact, what is happening and i would like to add to what my colleagues in the studio said about more ukraine indeed. this plan has been discussed for more than a year. here he was heard it was precisely according to the confederation's project of such a soft entry and soft accession that i went near

some western regions of ukraine. i don’t know, it was agreed. he is not agreed. uh, i agree that it will be unrealistic to realize it, but the fact that the moment of paying off debts is due to the colossal infusion that is now happening and has happened before. it had to come sooner or later. how to pay the state, which destroyed the infrastructure of the industry does not work. here is the economy. well, to put it mildly, it does not develop. yes, she is in a steep peak, there is nothing more than territory, therefore it is quite possible that such a political entity as poland, which is the debtor of the same united states of america, has been chosen. let's not forget that the poles do not have any economy of their own. 250 billion dollars were given subsidies and constantly give back. this is the state and from the european budget. yes, from other organizations so that they can show development. yes, to be a showcase, as it was originally intended and of course, joining for them is very

significant, yes, and profitable. but i'm sure they won't succeed. thank you alexander well, then we will carry out our program and would like each of our speakers to hear the final word, which will summarize what we have been talking about today, please. i think the process that is going on today is very difficult and they are, uh, first of all , challenging our resilience, uh, and firmness in moving forward on the course that we have chosen , uh. unfortunately for ukraine, all these processes will end very badly, and most likely, it will liquidation of the state and, uh, divisions of ukraine , selling it off with a tent, because those are the allies, uh, who now support the current ukrainian junta. they will become its gravediggers, but, on the ruins of this

, a new measure of the device will grow, which will be fair and where there will be no place for these predators that we see today in the world. please to the audience, maybe, i hope , the people of ukraine in general are watching us, to say that there is nothing personal under the sun, yes, and everything changes and this is power here too protectorate and what is happening, it will also pass. take care of yourself and loved ones and keep your strength from yourself. andrey vladimirovich and i would like, well, i agree completely with the theses that have been voiced, uh. still, i would like to say that the people of ukraine, ordinary ukrainians, remain hostages of this whole situation. and this, frankly, fills us all. uh, well, very unpleasant experiences, difficult experiences, so

i would like to express solidarity u with ordinary ukrainian uh, citizens not those who were sharpened in 2014 as anti-russia, and topics that would like to live peacefully, uh, develop to give birth to children, in the end. uh, just simply live. and here they are. i would like to say that we are in solidarity with them , we sympathize with them and always accepting help sooner or later is incredibly grateful to all participants in our discussion. thank you very much andrey vladimi. as a ukrainian , today's discussion cannot inspire me, but nevertheless, the bitter truth. sweet lies are always better. ukraine has brought money new opportunities and prospects to many people, but only not to the majority, its rank and file, whose citizens are held captive by myths and illusions. why don't ukrainians themselves notice this? here it will be honest to recall the famous lines of the forbidden

despondency in ukraine by alexander sergeevich pushkin. ah, it’s not difficult to deceive me. i am glad to be deceived. thanks a lot. it was a program sas authorized to declare. the tragedy of ukraine is that it went to those who need it the least.