the weekly socio-political talk show is on the air in spite of the general national holiday. we, as always, work with kirill kazakov. today we will be in our program on the eve of the most important state holiday. i consider victory day to speak. uh, of course, about the victory about the war about peace, well, about what worries us all. i invite you to join our conversation. right here at the bottom of the screen. you see a qr-code, you see your smartphone on it and join our chat. on youtube we we will try to voice your opinion or questions to us or to our speakers, but let's start. look here. many can argue with the fact that may 9 is not the main public

holiday on july 3. well, it seems like the day of liberation of belarus is more important. however, if we philosophize a little in our subjective journalistic point of view. we are talking about the fact that it was on may 9 that the great patriotic war ended globally and then we managed to save the nation. this war is different from all the others precisely in that it was not a war for resources. it was a war of annihilation. nations, we are belarusians, as nations and when we are told that we are probably building our ideology incorrectly, placing the victory of the great patriotic war as the basis, one can also argue a lot, but in fact, we have preserved the nation of the war that were in the sixteenth seventeenth nineteenth century. they were different, they were bloody. however, these were not wars to annihilated. and when now they are trying to take away may 9 from us, but only news, for example, they surprise because what mr. zelensky recognizes on may 9, only there is no europe during the day, not victory day although a few years ago. he stated that

we would not give up on may 9, forgetting all ukrainian. yes, forget not to carry flowers to the monuments. and in general, in fact, it is crossed out. that is, there is a certain symbolism in this, of course, date may 8, 9, because in berlin it was 11 pm 1 minute 12, and in the soviet union at that moment it was already one in the morning, and therefore really may 9 is victory day in germany it was may 8th. this is such an interesting story. she's invested in her head now politicians to us so that we can share these 2 days. although i don't see any point in dividing may 9 - it's really one of the most important public days sociologists have recognized that people say that 81% of the past. we talked about it at the last program, and we said that it is important for them. holiday here is more and symbolism. please show the video today over the reichstag , the unknown raised the red banner of victory well

, such a certain symbol of the fact that uh, in spite of everything, there are people who so that ours make a victory, yes, they just, as it were, in germany believe that it was not like they say now in history books in germany because the americans carried freedom and peacefully the territory that they liberated, and the russians they established the communist mode. so, in fact, we are now fighting, we are no longer fighting for peace, but we are fighting to call ourselves a nation, to be free and for those symbols that we really have the right to celebrate, raise above ourselves and sing like them. who else but the military can help we have to fight for these symbols, if we don’t have a parade on may 9, then we have studios on the information front. the parade will be, firstly,

happy may 9th to all - this is true. many say this is a bright holiday, comparing the bright holiday with easter, because it brought our country. not just the world. and survival was a war on embroidery antalevich. the question is, as it were, how the troops are waiting and preparing for may 9, i’ll just explain. and for sure, as at school on september 1 and the last call. it's very important for children the days begin study ends study when you work, you also have important days that you become attached to. i understand that may 9 is probably a special day in the army. well, like the twenty-third of february, for example, as the day of the same or another ro. yes troops on may 9, what is this? may 9 - this is for every serviceman, if we are talking about military personnel, this is really a special holiday and it is impossible,

probably, to say that on may 9 the troops celebrate victory day no, no, preparations for various events are carried out long before may 9 and are dedicated. this whole training is dedicated all these events are dedicated to this bright holiday. here you are absolutely correct. here in germany there was a sea. eh, in moscow it was the ninth already and now they are concentrating on this insignificant fact. so, long before may 9, in the tailoring educational institutions of military units, lessons of courage are held , excursions of various kinds are held during which it is shown, it is told , it is explained with the eyes and lips. well, actually peers. well, let's say, lieutenant, senior lieutenant, graduate. uh,

graduating student - it's about the same age it is in one language that the significance of this victory is told not by the time frame, but by the contribution of the union e, probably for well in my paradigm. at least talk about the significance of may 9 well, that's definitely not necessary. maybe i'm wrong? it seems to me, well, any sane person, but really realizes that this is a day in history, it means for us that the germans captured stalingrad, they captured it so it is written. children's textbooks are simply hammered in by someone, but people can read, including german textbooks. now really there is a need. well, you know what to prove, cyril already noted this and i, let's say i completely agree with them, today there is a struggle for this holiday. why because i've read, when even

the money of europe is on the internet what kind of holiday? this is generally half of europe fought with half of europe shared the day of what kind of europe is this? so maybe it was from ancient greece where europe was completely different, as if europe, that's why it was the accent. uh, you see, we must be aware that, unfortunately, living witnesses the great patriotic war is becoming less and less every year every month. and we must pass this baton into reliable hands so that the younger generation is told to the younger generation, but about the price of this victory, about the meaning of this victory, the meaning of victory, not that we defeated fascism in europe , let's say the meaning of victory is that we correctly you said you saved yourself as a people. in

connection with this, if we are talking about the youth there. yes, and andrei sergeevich is in your team, middle age. well, approximately what kind of military personnel are 19-20 years old, if the military servicemen are sure the guys who grew up on the third and on may 9 well, here is the relationship, but hmm, this is different for these two holidays, uh, there is something that some consider more important some less important. no, this is still the generation that was probably seen alive in their great-grandfathers and saw their attitude to these holidays. they were able to force it from them. i do not see our relationship to these holidays. yes, absolutely . they emphasize that it's nice to know that we have independence day. this is the day independence from fascism. and no union yes , one victory yes, well, this is a holy holiday

that e gave us. it can be said that life has given freedom, if possible, now i’ll take 2 minutes of my time uh-huh, but there is a small poem i prepared here for this program a long time ago there was a war her sacred grandfather was called and everything. she was needed because of the country then they stood to the death, sparing neither their own lives nor blood, and going to berlin on foot going health warriors did not think about health. and i thought, vaughn, you see that next to him are friends soldiers that protect the rays of the house, that every day his was a brother? you were afraid not to be in time. save yourself. all the forests, in the neighboring hut from german bullets, could not cover the father of the battalion and all the soldiers then knew that every commander in the ranks would never regret his life for the life of a soldier . what does it mean i want to tell you guys, what does our brother for brother mean when the enemy standing at the gate

and threatening our women, vasily was a partisan who loved his homeland so much that together with his brother volodya , sergey laid down for the happiness of our life when he found out that wow the fascist killed, sparing himself in gave his soul the honor to take revenge on the front for his brother. leaving, brother vsevolod his gazin. when the hour to fight came like this on sakhalin for the glory of the motherland led. and with this friendly fist, they then smashed fascism, they all dreamed of one thing, so that children would understand and honor, but time passed and all those who saved their homeland died, all those who knew the price of happiness , all those who gave us freedom, and immediately the west helped fascism to rise again from america. he wanted to tear the country to pieces. we will never abandon our people for them, even tomorrow let's go fight if the motherland orders. i will bring victory to him, because again, having heard the anger of the country and

in honor of the good that the grandfathers gave , the sons will come to the rescue and bring victory to the country. in fact, when an officer of the so-called five, they generally know what the fifth brigade is, here, as if reading a poem. yes, i have one thought that i listened to from experts. e ukrainians who say yes, these belarusians are not motivated anyway. well, they say. look, russia has taken over from them. we can do anything here do. and if we go, what will the troops do? here are your guys from the top five, what will they do, is there motivation? here is what to answer to these comrades who say that they have no motivation, i answered a minute ago already in lines. this poem is mine and, as it were, every word that i put in, well , i put it consciously. if someone wants to test belarus for strength, please,

but we are peaceful towards everyone and no one says that ukraine or the ukrainian people are an enemy for us. that's fascism, which this is an ideology that is being promoted there, destroying our values, they are also destroying victory day yes, as a holiday for us , treating veterans, as i don’t know, not just, probably, as some kind of dregs of society to second-class people, probably, well, you know, we are proud that this is the great patriotic war. yes, it was ours. well, the last war and, uh, yesterday, walking around the city, i was tired and this book of memory stands, and there the word is so directly highlighted, and not repeatable, and i somehow became thoughtful, because, probably, here military analysts military experts hmm, they see the situation that is now developing at our e-borders, including

andrei ivanovich, they can argue with this statement. what do you think, mmm. often, however, we see parallels in conflicts that yes, close to us, they like to draw both in personalities and in certain operations, just the same with the great patriotic war, how correct this is and how much a conflict of this magnitude, we really will not repeat. in my opinion, of course, the comparison is incorrect. because the great patriotic war. she was the only one and will be the only one, and that victory that was, of course, it will not happen again, firstly, a lot has been invested a lot, but high costs and human losses. and everyone knows how much it cost us. it was a big country. it was the soviet union, all peoples. and they made their contribution, of course, this will not happen again. and whatever the conflict in the future, let's hope something is the last conflict, which at least our generation, maybe even further than our children, has fallen a lot. and of course, i already

expressed in this conflict in ukraine, i do not see victory. not for one side. you can have some goals up to 7, but there is a task, but what is victory, when two fraternal slavic peoples? so, somewhere, and for certain politicians due to the fact that one country fell under the village of the west and the top. eh, this is how it stands to die, but what kind of litter is there? when such a big loss. no, of course, yes , we see that russia is achieving certain goals, ensuring military security. we understand this perfectly, but nevertheless still, the heart of this conflict does not accept us, because we understand that it is primarily peaceful people who suffer. but this is such a political moment. i want to answer. here. uh, kirill asked alyona a question. do i need to talk about this war? o cyril translated sociology. yes, we have more than 81% of our citizens believe that they are victory - this is the main public holiday, and a week ago. e, the vciom is russian, and the data , e, was presented by 65% ​​of russians. count, so we are victory day, which, of course, is less, but still

indicator is good and ukrainian sociologists. this is an indicator. pay attention, and ukrainian sociologists gave their e, 13% of ukrainians consider one of the most significant , this is what will happen if you don’t tell, if you don’t show this remedy for what they didn’t tell, didn’t show, forbidden, but forbidden on may 9, forbade holidays. and the veterans equated those who fought in principle against the soviet army, i remember how it was and will please us. here is a consequence of 13% bandera is the oldest generation, and the youth is the smallest. and here, look we're talking about the fact that we have the last war, we really built our ideology on victory. unlike many european countries, we call ourselves the country of winners. she keeps trying to bend over and say no. you are also losers, no matter how important this is, and i think, we are also a subjective opinion that, in addition to all

geopolitical aspects, an attempt to draw belarus into a conflict does not matter into a conflict in ukraine. sides. this includes the word mentality to make us repent, well europeans can not forgive. yes, this is zhukov's well-known phrase that when he won, they will not forgive us for this. well, she's basically on the move. could it be, among other things , that the story is such that these psychological operations are not military, but about making the belarusians also repent, so they need to be drawn in. but i think we still need to share directly. here are the attempts to draw our country into the conflict, and then a little more is needed behind this, but i'll be back again. we touched on zelensky. this is the new holiday. and what is 8 in europe, and celebrates may? open any government website of a european country. and what is victory day in europe over nazism, they specifically write that

world war ii was started by germany and the soviet union, that is , all of europe has established itself in this for itself, and if zelensky is determined that his country, uh, at least for now when he is in power, he will celebrate on the eighth day. this means that it is also recognized that the e soviet union was an accomplice. well, when we talk about dates, the eighth ninth, and the formats , all these bells were still there decades ago, when you remember in these disputes about whether may 9 is appropriate for victory day when yes, we know. how many people have laid down their lives in the name of this victory, katya has been showing me, it means that this weapon is endless or holidays. these are endless calculations. in general, well, in fact, there was such a chatter and a gradual substitution of concepts, then what we see, uh, happened in ukraine. yes, zelensky does not refer to his own, as it were such a strong-willed decision, but it seems like this is the people the people want so much. here igor

konstantinovich, am i like a deputy? i want to ask you, after all, you are a representative, but our belarusians did not turn to you with such requests. no such requests were made. well, as already noted, it’s really impossible to simplify the issue, and, probably, the first swaying of the situation with regard to the victory began, probably, even during the time of the soviet union for perestroika, even earlier yes, clearly, uh, set the task, opening the second front, dragged out as best they could in order to have a look. how many russians will die in europe, well, and now they say that they liberated auschwitz well, or they start talking about even such a blatant fact that they, including their youth , want to drive into their heads that probably, then, then already tried to deal with the migration of the population created our territory labor camps. this is generally a blasphemous fact. here, they say, now, uh, such a process is going on then. now, probably, they are also fascist, germany they were engaged in this, therefore it is necessary

to stop feeding it, especially. that's when the soviet ideology gave a little cream. do you remember those articles that the secret protocols began to make public say. here is a little bit that the soviet union played some role here too. uh, maybe, uh, including the militant, probably, that's when, uh , this full-scale operation against the countries of the former ussr began, uh, let's say this operation. we now call the proxy mental warfare, hybrid whatever. but uh, i guess we're on time, it's not in vain that we're in a referendum in the fifteenth article of the constitution made a good addition about that. the state ensures the preservation of the historical truth and the memory of the feat of the belarusian people during the great patriotic war from article 54 of the constitution, let me remind you that patriotism is the duty of every citizen today. uh, when the youth, if they don’t try, let’s say , snatch the victory. uh, at least make them forget something, at least they didn’t know, and these moments related to opinion polls show that we need to deal with and

war. it is not for nothing that the head of state at a meeting with the security forces clearly set the task that the economy is the second time the situation is inside the country, and if only it is repulsive for someone to shake the situation inside, when the military is holding it along the outer contour, of course, it will be severely suppressed. i would like to make another point here. we all remember when the relevant law and measures were adopted regarding the genocide of the belarusian people. uh , including up to criminal liability that even uh, including it is forbidden uh, to deny the belarusian genocide, a knife, i would probably still. uh, if the situation is around. with us it will be complicated and attempts, both from the point of view. e ideological work to split society will continue, and the form will change, including today's already said artificial intelligence. you need to connect it and it connects. you see this when fakes start, which means that various ones, including those generated by e, and sometimes even the creators, are already afraid. and what will happen next and who to believe, the population of not only our country

of the planet ceases to believe the information. here it is very important that we probably also they defended themselves from the point of view of even banning, maybe even somewhere or uh, severely limiting it in a frame, so let's say not only genocide, but also historical truth, and memory was protected by legislation, so that no one would say. and that means that if it were not for the soviet union, there would be germany there, as many argue this possibility of comparison. we'll drink cold every time. when you understand, well, that's all the same with regards to the protection of our holiday, which we are talking about. there is protection for our country, such the feeling that mm is not present . most of our people have an understanding of the real understanding that it needs protection. i will explain why may 9 is celebrated at the state level. we are all talking about it. yes, a lot of reports are being filmed, but, in principle, cities are decorated here, like it or not, you will be loaded, as

we are heroes, this is normal. this is 100%. just like hmm, here, remember, the notorious expression of the head of state before the twentieth year that the caterpillar says a billion borders, that there were grinning, they say audible, hard to hear. show tell me i think that the military were just the same people who did not smile on themselves yet and heard the clanking of caterpillars perfectly now, when we see that in many countries it is very restless, very close to us countries, it is not calm in belarus just- everything is under control. therefore, the majority is absolutely relaxed going about their business , discussing whether someone has the eighth or ninth there how they celebrate, but in principle, they are going to go tomorrow and honor the memory of the heroes, they are going to go for a walk in the city, accordingly, the impression is formed. what do you know this? here, well, uh, too, joking. this expression is a corner of the world and stability,

which has become such a commonplace for us and it seems, well, unshakable andrey petrovich here. how do you think? mm, maybe worth a little. to sober up the people from such a rosy world in which we live. well, you know, probably, to say that the cost of someone is sobering, probably not quite right? firstly, we spoke correctly here about whether it is necessary to tell the younger generation or not, but great victory? you know, my morning began today, my son runs into my bedroom and says, dad, he says, shells were brought to the musicians in artyomovsk, you understand, then the son does the same thing, he says, dad, how will we go tomorrow with you to meet this victory and that's it. the rest of my impressions are still nothing, but lithuania was in klaipeda in 2012 or 2013 and there was a monument, which we will now demolish the monument, really to those who liberated this city from the nazi invaders and gave it to lithuania here you

you know, only people gathered there in the morning, although this year no one encouraged anyone to go there. schoolchildren ran away from their classes there, they all came old, okay. it really struck me to the core. yes , everyone came with flowers. well, then we left, there is the sea, we decided back and forth in the evening. again by. passing to stop at this very moment, which is and you know , a smart soldier, a sailor and a pilot, was standing there. i have never seen this in my life. they were covered up to the waist with flowers in this lithuania where this holiday is not is celebrated, you know, where they are already trying not to talk about it. it's probably at the genetic level. we really have it, that's why they are now jailed for these boys there. yes, now for the fact that you use soviet symbols. in fact, not only a fine is envisaged there, but an actual criminal punishment is envisaged, but a dictatorship. we have a dictatorship , of course we have therefore. today , unfortunately, we are two different poles. we

really are that island of stability in all these aspects. and, probably, to sober up people in the sense that let's take a look. this is completely on the other side, probably, everything is going wrong with us . here even we say, what look, there, that feelings of m-m danger. and it's, well, dull. you see, when we do not see a threat, no matter how intangible it is, if you went here, forbid me , of course, it was the president who spoke about the terrorist who was detained in grodno yes , who wore a wig that well, somehow our people didn’t even understand, they rented an apartment to him, someone called and said, like the taxi drivers that you did, well, it doesn’t seem like, that is, it really seems that we really only have journalists and the military think that we have a war around the perimeter. or at least enemies.

can i, if well, for victory, in general, of course, we must fight, and if we have already said that the war will be of a hidden nature, of course, we must fight for the youth, or i was pleased to be given when, including the russian the federation offered to get award sheets, including families for whole families who fought. and maybe we also need to do this digitized, when they just saw a great-grandfather's medal somewhere, well, that's understandable. that means a certificate. and briefly in the award list i read that he suppressed the firing point and destroyed so many fascists. these lines, they really penetrate very seriously, and therefore the youth must be educated. let the veterans of the war leave, but if military historians we will be real patriots. indeed, as the president said , he will bring up a patriot. only the patriot will be personal an example to do so. i'm sure we'll win. eh, no one will even deny that the soviet people won the belarusian people in this war. no, i fully agree that it was correctly said here that they still sober us up whether we want to or not.

look at what happened on may 3, for example, in moscow. yes, today we really feel that this is our closest brothers, moscow. for us, for many, this is still the same capital of the soviet union and no one could imagine that this could happen, after all you understand that this is also a test of our strength not only russians, but also belarusians , including no, look how much belarus bryansk region, krasnodar territory of a military point of view. this one, from a military point of view, is the use of these unmanned aerial vehicles. it is insignificant, but from a political point of view, if you look at it from an informational point of view. it really is a global cost on the one hand, what was shown to the whole world, that is , it is presented and such that the king is naked, all this vaunted air defense system, that's all collapsed and, by and large, nothing exists that cannot ensure the security of the state today. well , every military man understands that this is not true, i am

now a more secure city. there is no golden-domed in the world, there really has been created a multi-echelon air defense system that is capable of fighting both e.g., cruise missiles and is capable of fighting ballistic missiles with strike aircraft. well, somewhere, of course, they found some kind of loophole, they approached it and used it tomorrow at the parade. may 9, there will be very many heads in foreign countries, at least. if it were unsafe, then probably they would have doubts. you understand what message there is in all this application, that is, it is said that the first message is the president of the country to putin and his entourage. wherever you find yourself, you will not feel safe even in the very heart of moscow in the kremlin, the central palace the second message the second second message, most likely, it was sent to the zelensky himself and is offered to him what you promised. please execute. you must start the contrast, otherwise

the agreements that were made are conditional. they will have absolutely no weight. and we can use it again. and then russia will be forced. apply appropriate forces, or rather means, to decision-making centers. well, what the president said at the message , but that, relatively speaking, don’t touch russia. either you agree, or if you fire up this russian steam locomotive, it will rush. so anal daughter. i immediately it’s just that our air defense will protect us everything, i ’m just listening to the fact that everything is fine , the most protected city, moscow, here we are, that’s fine. absolutely absolutely more than that more than that they talk about how to shake someone up. wake up here, probably the principle should be like this, people should know why peacefully and calmly, how is this achieved?

a simple example. well, a household person goes by car. he doesn't think. why does the car drive, it drives, because it drives, because it is a car, but as soon as it breaks down, he immediately becomes. well, like microautomechanics. it's the same here. here is the traditionally ordinary, well interested. what is the activity of aviation on the outer contour, yeah, well, for the common man. well, let me tell you , let's say that activity has increased significantly compared to the year before last. if earlier we said that about twenty-twenty-five aircraft flew in a week, including a reconnaissance aircraft, now we are talking about more than a hundred more than a hundred, well, he slept peacefully a year and a half ago. he is sleeping peacefully now. no, well, a little bit ahead. well maybe be, but if you tell him that every day, in order for him to sleep peacefully today, more than 1,000 people take up

combat duty, at least. tomorrow, may 9 , more than 1,000 people will not celebrate. they will be on alert. yes, definitely , definitely, and talking about, uh, reliable unreliable. here is an example given with the kremlin. i will say this at the household level. it probably reminds me of something. uh, in the crowd, spit in the back , hide behind other people's backs and then talk about the bloat so when it already starts there, too, in the eighty-seventh year landed on a motor plane. uh, on red square. and here they are even trying to find some parallels. this is a 100% provocation. yet another attempt to somehow belittle the role of russia and its victorious post in the eyes of its taxpayers. so what, here is the country though? well

, maybe not in global danger, but there is a certain feeling, not the fear of smartness inside. this feeling of smartness, it must somehow, because if the head of state is doing some kind of related work. yes, here with the geopolitical level the political level not always. this work is public. we're fine about it. yes, we know, we understand, but somehow the majority gets the impression that everything is somehow somehow. yes, it works by itself. and what kind of economy are you asking us to give even so everything is wonderful. why do we need something, as it were, but set up, fix, clean up, tell me right away. here you said break the economy. yes, the president said to the economy. well, good economy on the other hand. why are we talking about may 9, that it needs to be recaptured, it really needs yours, but alena asks the question is precisely that everyone has the feeling that everything seems to be going well with us. it's coming and we don't need it to be conquered.

that is, if we come to the holiday, we put up beautiful billboards, posters, hung flags, held concerts, but somehow here's something, maybe it's not enough, but in my opinion, let's talk about what you called the number 81 %. but this suggests that we are doing quite a lot regarding the education of our patriots, and even in the constitution we have something of patriotism. it is our duty citizen. that's right. we emphasize what needs to be protected. here my colleague gave an example regarding lithuania. i will give an example of 2018. poland in one place of private conversations. uh, one person, a professor with a higher polish education, said, well, they touched on the topic of the demolition of monuments in soviet soldiers. he says, u you know 600.000. this is because freeing more people died, because the red army and stalin did not consider people to be russian women. she is actually giving birth. you and i understand that in 1944

year, the red army was the strongest army in the world, and in the forty-fourth year, the wehrmacht was lying on the shoulder blades, and he was already just putting the squeeze on, so we really need to know about it and talk and defend, we can give many examples, when, for example, even a misinterpret our history. and even, for example, our western neighbors. they still have moroi, relatively similar to krasov in 2017, they had a map on and on electric trains where a western belarus western ukraine was part of the speech. now it's now these electric military walk around singing. oh yes, we will reach lviv, what is it that we must protect well, and even we have a law at the legislative level in 2021, adopted on the prohibition of the rehabilitation of nazism, where increased responsibility, ranging from administrative to criminal, that is, the state, in my opinion, is doing enough such good moves. yes, maybe not completely, maybe there is still a direction of perfection, for example, as a former military man, i can say that a can be one and a half. center or 1.3 gdp may not be

quite enough to allocate to power structures, maybe a little need to be increased? this is because the polish army, they are already talking, firstly, an increase until 2028, in my opinion, to 300,000 gdp and 4% of gdp because, therefore, we also need to look at what i'm trying to tell you that it turns out that we forget it, but i have the numbers, these are the numbers that ivana four taught the vases. private belarusian will say that why do we need to tell you these expenses for the army. if so , everything is fine, i will tell you the following: well, uh, remember the president's three questions, are you ready you keep your armed forces there, in my opinion, the second was the question and in my opinion, there, well, for security, but the meaning is correctly a security issue. and i think that , in general, our and, probably, public opinion, firstly, in principle, it agrees with this because, well, you don’t want to, or rather, feed someone else. yes, uh, feed your soldier therefore. steps need to be taken in this regard, but i want to tell you, maybe, why our

people have calmed down a little, because our power component is acting enough effectively. this city. grodno is a machulishche for you, e. well, i can say, you can analyze it this way and you can talk about it , so people react a little like this and calmly, but i think they understand perfectly well that if necessary, then they will take certain steps. there is more there is more. eh, you know. e. vladimir vysotsky has a poem the ballad of the struggle there is a very cool line, if the right books, so you read it. i think that our generation read the right books. i think we should also hand over to the young one as soon as possible. join our conversation. fine? in principle, everything is fine here, it is correctly said, but i would like alyona to take your side on just a simple historical issue. let's remember the thousand and ninety-first year, a new republic of belarus is formed and an independent state.

i want to say that we had ahead of us were the former socialist countries of the world system, socialism, on the right, we had soviet socialist baltic republics, well, on the left, the ukrainian ussr is already our brother, as best they could, and that’s not 30 years have passed that we have gradually all the former socialist countries of the world system of socialism bypassed nato russia, our friends are gone, now we take the western baltic from the right to the north there, then they all joined nato and how ukraine tried not to join nato , but one thing must be said that in ukraine , there is a complete program for training nato specialists in their weapons, that is , the soviet one, which was soviet, has already passed and there they are not. the mercenaries are completely away, therefore, when you say, yes, no, i don’t want to be here i’m here to say, like, old comrade, the colonel is escalating the situation, but the fact is that it has formed around us. tars, which is not hostile to us, if not even hostile, but they are friendly

to put it mildly, to put it mildly, unfriendly, especially since everyone knows that no matter how there are yachts , i call myself polish napoleons, that is, the leadership of the user country. i'm not that they are napoleons, but the question is ukrainian napoleons napoleons. why am i at the training ground that they have napoleonic plans, but they themselves are not real, etc., but he himself is still fine they know that there are questions, about returning , when they want the commonwealth and so the grandchildren want from the baltic sea to the black sea, that's all and at the same time they will create all these conditions, then the president voiced the message and so on. uh , what did the minister of defense of poland say in case of failure. in the east, in ukraine, we will prepare to lead to open a second fund, where belarus of course, belarus is therefore correct. that's how it works, counting the military completely. i will hold why we are a little calm, just yes? we are used to the fact that we

really pay attention to defense special attention and our leadership of the country and our government is talking about it. a whole new concept of a new national security, in which all these i want nine directions are painted. but as for me, as i say, it is important to say that everyone there knows the actions as his person, that is, a person must know his action, society and the state. that is, everyone can find their point in this national security, how does he, as a citizen, affect literally there yesterday? yes, i watched a report about how these mm our territories. uh, they cook and train. that's how much skepticism a year or two ago this topic caused now. well, it seems like, but the same is the territorial defense of ukraine in poland, the territorial defense of the halt after all. this is actually what's new well, we started the first 20 years ago. to be honest, when it just started there,

just stepped into it, the pupil was any me somewhat in vain were so a little skeptical attitude, to be honest, i smile. well, what is it? total defense when do we have armed forces here? we practically now want to continue. so, when such a military political situation was created around belarus, yes, and then, for example, i realized that yes, firstly, they said here that up to 300,000 are old here. and our 60 has real defense. i like for myself. now it is not even so much the military that it is clear that territorial defense will be taken over by a separate issue. there they formulated these 120.000 for the protection of objects. there's a million and a half. yes, yes, the total will be difficult one and a half million, but personally, how for himself, as a man was made. the most important. so i say to myself that we have a task of lethal defense and now the creation of the people's militia, that is, the people.

the belarusian people understand that this nationwide cause is counted as our czech, that is, if he says he should know, that is, if he is of military age , then as he has already done, uh, the general staff, that is, all military registration and enlistment offices have passed, that is, who can be called up those who were not called. yes, i 'll go so andrey tell the guys come. yes , they are ready to serve in the army. you know, here's the question. well, how do we say? yes, there are territorial defenses , there are people's militia, and the initial military training at the school comes to you. they are ready for the fact that you are ready, well, the whole bag of machine guns ran in the mind of kirill vladimirovich probably because you know , even here on an elementary school example. and how many years a child is sent to school at six seven eight, they are not psychologically ready, there six-year-olds perceive the cool information that has fallen upon them. well accordingly, this generation is already an army. as a result, and they come first. eh, we have a pretty good system of military-patriotic classes of clubs in our country, now it is expanding very much. well, i understand you that the selection is better. yes, you watch them in these

clubs in exactly the same way, as a rule, the selection goes on, as it were, military personnel who will serve with us and directly people come with the skills already acquired in some elementary schools. and in the brigade lately it has become more compared to, say, ten years ago, i think so. but this is influenced by various factors and the world situation , and we have to bring some changes in connection with new forms, probably the vision of military operations, so the teaching also has to be increased in the number we are talking about, which are professionals. well, everyone should mind their own business. yes, the military will protect us. and we are there, it means that people who are employed in the real sector of the economy are working on the information front. there must be busy. andrey ivanovich i have this one for you. well, maybe a philosophical question somewhere. maybe in vain. we, in principle, are now trying, and talking about what is happening and convincing someone that well, you need to be

prepared, in which case you need to be more careful to protect your homeland, can really leave everyone alone. yes and so pay more attention to economic issues , relatively speaking, the economy on a war footing, until you transfer, and after the economy, the society will re-plan the agenda. just don't stop focusing on it, but it goes and goes somehow it protects and protects, well, great. thank you, the economy must be prepared for transfer to a military footing. in any case necessary. do i need to tell, but citizens should understand, after all, this situation that is developing near our borders. so we touched on poland, literally three days ago , probably, yes, the minister of defense of poland also met with us defense minister loyad austin. defeats and deliveries american weapons in poland from the main issues. uh, why does poland need 500 hummers 500?

for what? and why poland nineties apache helicopters. uh, and for now, there is also the gzd and the us congress did not give the good. in fact, they are already, as it were, renting out a certain number of helicopters so that they have nuclear weapons in the brest direction. well now they are asking for nothing. they always ask. yes, this is what we are talking about right now. we have literally 2 months left. uh, the nato summit in vilnius can already say what will be questions to be raised, in addition to the fact that this assistance in ukraine is unequivocal - and the second is some kind of consolation prize, she will have to be given for not being accepted into nato , although she is striving, that is, some promises will be next once. uh, then the new nato defense plans for the baltic region will be considered. this is very serious, because we have three countries from this region of restrictions with us. this is poland lithuania allatvia. uh, here we know that finland has conceded to nato and we are already talking about the fact that

the americans are now on a defense agreement between finland and the united states is considered, that is, american troops can be located in finland in the same way that finland remains open to foreign military bases to settle on its territory. yes, nuclear weapons, they refused after 2 days, that is, the entry. at least the defense voiced that we would not place and well bases, but no, they did not refuse. and such moments they accumulate a lot, they also affected the expenditure on weapons, if in wales, at the nato summit in 2014 , 2% was designated for nato, now it will be labeled 2.5. this already without filling will be 2.5 for each side of the member. in other words, this is at least such a milestone, we, of course, show not such, but people should understand that we need to have new weapons. we need to have stockpiles of ammunition materiel. and, because when it is only on paper or on some kind of contracts, we may not get it, because russia, for example, will deal with its own issue. we

have to prepare all this, and we need to get new weapons both in russia and our own produce in order to be ready to simply repel such aggression will take place. better yet, just don't let it happen. and this, of course, fools have to be prepared. these are all expenses. we know how much now. expensive weapons military equipment and we will not get away from this andrey petrovich , the president very often says that yes, remembering, there is the forty-first year. yes, it says that it is important for us to prevent what happened then, we should not be taken by surprise. well, basically, uh, all those uh steps, what we're doing now, sort of, as evidence of what we really are. mm, keep your eyes open and your finger on the pulse of all those whole movements that we see on the other side. well, let's take a look at what is so terrible for us here now, andrey ivanovich told us about everything, this technique, about, uh , why it really needs more,

why lithuania needs it , we will explain all these weapons, all these exercises to our viewer. what are they really preparing for defense. do you know what we can watch today may 2 anaconda 2023 exercises began poles 12.5 thousand exercises have already gone in full swing, which means that before this the aurora 2023 exercises are the same. there are about 25,000 people in sweden. the well-known defender exercises there, more than 22 countries will use their armed forces for their intended purpose in these exercises. it discusses the issues and the transfer of modern weapons specifically to the continental part from the united states, the american part of europe, there is also a transfer of british forces. before that , there were exercises called global thunder. 2023. and these teachings. for some reason, they remained on

the sidelines, and it was there that they considered the use of not only tactical, but also strategic nuclear weapons. these are purely offensive weapons. today we clearly know that modernization has already taken place. nuclear warheads, which are located in the netherlands, there are 20 of them , everything is there to turn everything around. smoke nuclear weapon, which is located in the european part. we, too, conduct exercises, there is no doubt that this is exactly what exercises are conducted for. here we are here we are talking about whether there are enough funds, on the contrary, how to convince people that you need yes, you don’t need to convince, you don’t need to go and you don’t need to convince. go to khatyn. and after the tour , lust no longer convince anyone. no need, military people. everyone understands this, the second khatyn. we will never be forgiven in our lives, and we will never allow this khatyn in our lives. why are we saying today that we need tactical weapons? a decision has already been made; already

prepared sites are already taking place ; to rule out this conflict against us has never been in the history of mankind. i am sure there will not be a military armed conflict against the country in whose territory nuclear weapons are located , this will never happen, therefore, of course , our pilots we passed correctly. the head of state has also been trained by our pilots. yes, and our military, in principle, well, this is the link with the russian federation that works very well for us. the president said that god forbid that on the economic aspect. we had such relations that were built with the military between the military without any road maps there, the state gathered the military for a meeting, we know, yes, that is, there was a secret part, about which, well, they know a narrow circle of completely persons and, accordingly, we can

say about what was revealed. we all understand very well that the head of state pays attention to the southern and western borders , to a greater extent to the southern one, in connection with which the upcoming counter-offensives, which we are talking about you see, terrorist acts of sabotage are continuous, acts of sabotage, various acts of sabotage groups. we saw how our convoys were destroyed on the territory of the russian federation. we see what is happening. what breakthroughs are sabotage. the group was carried out in the bryansk direction, the corresponding work is being carried out with us in order to prevent this possibility completely recently. we talked about digital maps, which the french should have provided here, but not provided for what for flying at low altitude in order to here these are the systems that we have electronic warfare, could not suppress them when they operate offline in order to manage, as they say, and objects where the newest ones are located. we have really revolutionary stations, which after 2012. we are probably the only country that has more than just an air defense system that

needs to be modernized; we have an adaptive air defense system. we are actually ready for any now. that is, how can we explain to me what adaptability is? there is a set of forces and funds. i will explain in a simple way, depending on the threat, this set of forces and means are combined in directions in terms of composition and based on this set, that is, at any heights from any directions, m-m with any reflective surface, they are able to put up a worthy barrier. you know, it's just that it is available, it is promising for these acts of sabotage. yes, about these attacks , in particular about the attack on the kremlin, they said that it also wears less, but such a political and informational one is understandable, including in order to, in addition to just e

the population, which, as you say, will be there to believe that the king is naked, and so on and so forth, this is also demoralizing. um, well, in theory, one of the goals is to demoralize the military, look heart, what do you think about the military, in principle, you can demoralize with such things . if you want peace, prepare for war, so we draw conclusions from all these challenges of the enemy. glory to god, the state helps with the necessary weapons, which allows you to prevent all these actions, or at least measure to identify at an early stage and provide a rather effective countermeasure to prevent just such activities in the country, and our people are charged. for victory and, accordingly, here this eternal one is precisely aimed at the kremlin, first of all, not at the military demoralization

of the civilian population, which, in general, but forces in this situation, an atmosphere of such fear of panic and the like. this is clean, in my opinion. that's where the category is aimed. here is this information operation from the point of view of psychology, the civilian population has two states of complacency and they yes, and there is no middle ground . that's the average engaged in the military security forces. generally correct. well, yes, we are complacently preparing for the holiday. i would like to apologize a little. yes, that's why we are talking in the west, only they said there are exercises now, other things. and here too we slept peacefully on may 9, not only 1,000 people who are on duty every day. we also have missile troops and artillery, which have i wanted to say that they attracted forces that the palandese point u, that is for a whole month, therefore, the west will think about how

to behave, we will sleep peacefully, but not only pilots. we are ready to use tactical nuclear weapons, but also missile troops and artillery. iskander is a complex scanner. it can be equipped with various means, so a tactical missile can also be a hidden missile, so each movement of military equipment is developing quite densely for each exercise, which means, uh, the belarusians reacted. as there went there transplanted no longer worried. listen, whatever. well military technique. now we are even on these teachings, about which you are talking about special attention and do not pay, which once again confirms my thesis that we have calmed down. now tell me, from the point of view of diplomats, there is such and such, but i don’t know, a trickle of communication with our western partners in general. of what is happening. well, i understand that the military has to communicate. we once talked in the program about the fact that the pilots in the sky

discuss their business there. in any case, there will be communication. but from the point of view, as if some contacts. here is between yours. well, for example, the council of the republic and the senate there. poland i uh, i can’t tell you unequivocally. but the western direction is now quite difficult diplomatically. this is in principle, the most important thing is the ministry of foreign affairs and the direction, but i can say that natalia ivana kachanova she always has this issue . it is always seriously considered by us in terms of maintaining contact in terms of interaction within the framework of parliamentary weakening in the dkb. empa cis that is in this respect with our friends. we always communicate very closely in the direction or everything is generally more complicated there. i'll tell you this, for example, it's more difficult, but no one brushes aside the president. we don't put up a curtain. here in front of you. this puts a curtain in front of us, so we are belarusians elite and ordinary

people, who, in principle, are good for us in this respect. we are always open and ready for cooperation. this is clear. i would like to remind you that the best thing is war. how this word is appropriate. this is the one that is prevented. yes, it can be prevented only if the condition determined by the head of state is met, when everyone does their own thing, military security officials protect the country , grain growers, scientists grow bread. they invent something for the economy for people, yes, teach children and educate patriots for children, they study for five on ten. forgive the old generation for talking about it. well, in fact, this is victory day with us, whatever one may say, maybe not the main one once said a public holiday, because after all

, the main public holiday is republic day independence day. but how are they related? yes belarus liberation day minsk liberation day victory day can be victory day - it's more. ah, the main national holiday. but the independence day of belarus is the main public holiday, that they are in vain from the song holy war. this is what the people's holy war is, therefore it is not the main thing for the illuminated holiday for the republic of belarus and to finish the songs victory is a holiday with tears in the eyes. i would like to succinctly conclude that we really have a lot, something that seems to us to be unshakable and in no way will we be able not to lose it, not to lose what conditions have now been created so that hmm it would not be like that. means we don't need to save. no need to protect our memory, no need to protect our country. well, i just want to say that may 9 is a good occasion to remember

who died, who died in your family, you can go to ordinary graves. maybe in a museum.

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