and it was influenced by the fact that many ethnic belarusians live there. there is a big one. uh, the belarusian diaspora is a few public associations of belarusians. and, of course, we traditionally expect that this risk will help develop the entire minsk airport as a transit hub, that residents of the murmansk region will be able to travel to other cities using minsk as a transfer point, and russian tourists have something to see belarusian land. however , for many russians we don’t need advertising, our reserves, agroestates and sanatoriums already how relatives also analyzed with colleagues. e according to the demand for this destination and very many have approved that a lot of e interest is great, yes, to visit really very beautiful sights of the place. eh, the republic of murmansk was created as a port city and the place for it was not chosen by chance. the kola bay is a narrow fjord. barintsev. the sea almost never freezes due to the warm north of the atlantic current , the continuation of the golf stream. it was this

unique access to the sea that endowed the city with the largest transport enterprise, the port. murmansk occupies the fourth place in russia in terms of the volume of cargo handled, and in the northwestern district it is second only to the harboring of st. increased by almost eight times last year. we have a lot of new areas of cooperation. in the field of logistics of transshipment of e- belarusian cargo in the field of supply of buses from belarus equipment for our mining enterprises cleaning equipment. and we hope that thanks to today's event, our e, it will be easier for residents to meet with the residents of belarus , to work together, to travel and, in general , to develop our cooperation new flights , new opportunities, and not only for passengers of belarus, russia is getting

closer, but developed air services and a comfortable flight program alina lapu and dmitriy chumak only strengthen cooperation alina lapu and dmitriy chumak elenosti agency, murmansk russia bright farewell to the school republican last the bell was held in lida, a solemn line brought together 1,500 of the best graduates from all over the country. this is the winner of the olympiad of sports tournaments, laureates of creative competitions and leaders of youth organizations, the main characters of the holidays were met by the whole city from the mound of immortality of a large-scale column. the youth proceeded to the lida castle. the awarding of the student elite took place there, and star teachers were also noted. another location. ice palace in the program of interactive sites. concert disco and holiday farmhouse

merit is that i participate very strongly in school life in general. well, i got third place at the republican stage of the competition with science into the future in order to receive some kind of award. that is a lot of effort. but if the more effort you put in, the more results you will get, and the better return sadly finishes school, but this is a certain stage in life. uh, more to come for every graduate - it's a big celebration. and everyone was worried about choosing the outfits of the dress. i can’t even believe that everything is already over, the feeling that here from september 1 back to school let's go yes, this will not happen again all editions where are in a great wonderful positive mood that today we have, uh, double responsibility for the day today is a reserve day. this means a centralized exam and 131 people came deeply i am sure that every young person should feel and hear himself , his inner heart, his inner core in order to really make his

professional choice such that he will bring throughout his life only pleasure professional creative. on may 25, a solemn line will be held according to the slogans of creation during the future presentation of certificates, as well as gold and silver medals, will be held on july 10th. to become a part of the belarusian society, take care of a family with the thought of their own children , who will grow up and enjoy the peace and beauty of belarus and rethink the events of the twentieth year, as well as the harm caused to belarusians in an interview with a television news agency, roman protosevich, pardoned the day before, said. let's remember the court. sentenced him to 8 years in prison and found him guilty of public calls for the seizure of state power by an act, terrorism, insulting the president , spreading knowingly false information about belarus, as well as other crimes , a political traitor convicted, what is next for a free citizen of belarus and

whether he is tormented by guilt, watch right now. i'm sorry. all the best, happy.

well, we can congratulate you, the point has finally been made . this part of your personal history is still a very funny feeling. confusion. even some open spaces. it seems much more than they were somewhere in memory. i would like to first of all stay in a city apartment for a long time. it's still difficult. i really

missed the sides. here you can feel it fully. this is the spirit of freedom belarus , which is still being drawn in telegram channels , and our belarus is trying different from all these things. this is my past. well, this is not my present anymore, people continue to live their lives. oh, it's impossible not to even smile. somehow life goes on. who would not say anything, and who would not write. and what catches your eye along with this sip of freedom cartoon belarus is much more of some good expensive cars than before? yes, this is also surprising. and this, too, probably says a lot. thank you, thank you, could you imagine in the twentieth year that you will be sick at the same table as an observer. that's how to drink coffee, that is, in principle, even

as a journalist, we were on opposite sides of the barricade. well, of course he couldn't. it is obvious, because this whole situation is in the 21st century, as it unfolded with me. it seems to me that it was a shock for everyone. and even more so for me, because well, obviously no one could even think about such a situation. you understand that today is such a very emotional day for you, what was in your soul in your heart, in general, what was inside when you heard that 2 years had passed on pardon, and in anticipation of how my future life would be resolved in general, my fate. we can say that everything turns sharply in this, but in a good way here. well, of course, confusion. i'll say what up i still don't quite believe it. and i think that in any case i will need, probably, two or three weeks, i don’t know , just to get used to life mentally before that. and you have already come to terms with the fact that 8 years is still the years deleted from life at such a young age, like mine at 28 years old. e 8 years of life. this is a very significant

stage of the years, in which you can really come up with a lot of things, a lot of things to do yourself . this phrase is 8 years old, it is very strong. yes, i've been for a long time, well, to put it simply, i completely resigned myself and er just expecting what will happen next had a lot of time to think. about the meaning of these thoughts have been coming since the twentieth year. e, in principle, it became, but a year of tragedy for many people for a variety of reasons , a tragedy for society, because well, in the history of sovereign belarus, there has never been such a strong split, such a signal confrontation. these are tens of hundreds, if not thousands of some personal tragedies of people from different sides. these were terrible events, and i still felt and will continue to feel responsible for those things that happened then because of feelings of guilt, this is both about guilt and about admitting

one's own mistakes. what, by the way until now? i didn't see, uh, anyone on the other side. yes, so to speak, here on their former colleagues and so on. although this is for me. well, honestly, i sincerely, probably, sew, because even sitting in a warm safe place somewhere far abroad. they don’t want to admit some of their mistakes they don’t want to admit their guilt for certain events they don’t want to admit guilt for thousands of broken lives participant terrorist organization goosebumps. here from this phrase. yes, from generally from the formulation of the phrase is. when it seems , it seems, it seems that there, but i don’t know, i didn’t kill anyone, you stand in a row, uh, with militants of such organizations as conditionally alcaet. and this, of course, is very wild. well, at that moment, when everything was still

just wrapping up for you, when these technologies were just being worked out, but there was no such assumption that this is how they could turn around with themselves, no one could have thought that in general they would develop like this situation even when the first sounds of explosions were heard in the flash noise. i even told someone in the editorial office not to write about it, because this is an explicit stuffing, we have never had anything like this and it’s simple. well, it couldn't be. i myself could not believe what was happening when this first news about the collision came out. i mean, uh, it was an absolute shock for me, as, probably, for most ordinary people. and before that, if you come back, yes, when everything was just wrapping up, when you saw that you led you and inspired you to do something. here this feeling of euphoria was unconditional. probably it would be foolish to deny this when you are in charge of some project. you understand that he, but already reaches some such mark , when he becomes really, and influential from the point of view, and the ability to convey to people

some yes installations, that is, really manage and really have some kind of influence only, of course, weapons and that’s all -it was this harmful war. let's so it was an information war. and nobody hides it. yes, i was a propagandist from the outside opposition later, it began to curtail completely at the location in one of those places in the city where it was hot in the twentieth year, what are the feelings here? uh, i remember cicadas that, uh, i personally saw then , which i got from different angles and stuff like that , so, of course, it's like i would not say that these are probably the most pleasant memories. and what has become for you personally in all this activity of yours. here's some kind of point of no return. it was the event of the evening of the ninth, when it all began, that is, if before that, it was generally still

, uh, probably perceived as uh, in general, some kind of informational confrontation after these events that took place on the ninth , tenth and eleventh, including at this place, it, well, has really become. uh, at that very point of no return, when it became clear that many things would simply not be fixed and turning everything back would not work, i could not even imagine that this was possible. did not believe in the power of his word rather, i did not realize how destructive. this maybe, and what for you personally became an impulse like this, maybe the last straw in the bowl.

e, when you wanted to reveal the truth of everything that happened behind the scenes somewhere on the other side and start cooperation with the investigation , such an internal decision was made to move away from all this, because it carries nothing behind it, except for some- then slogans were spoken, personally, i need to make protests. we need a picture there will be no picture there will be no sanctions there will be no international pressure roma does when it goes like this then undoubtedly. this probably means that everything has already gone according to plan. and who is now from those people who stayed there and continue to say something from there. here are some of these individuals. here you actually knew my rejection of me, they say, in very simple words, of course, i had anger and hatred towards many people, but now i think that, firstly, this time has already passed. we need to move on not to save ourselves all this bile. i think life itself will melt into place, what they are now calling for,

what do you think is the most outrageous sanctions - you understand this is an age-old topic. it seems to me that this topic is very, very paradoxical for a number of reasons. it is one way or another the pursuit of the interests of individual people by business, and secondly, because, well, this is in no way capable of affecting the power of the state as a whole. and why paradox ? well, because, again, absolutely the majority of positions openly oppose the union state with russia, and against russia as a whole, and so on. well people who oppose closer contact and cooperation between belarus and russia, they are doing everything so that the economy of belarus becomes more and more tied to this very russia in the russian federation, it turns out such simple contradictions to themselves, if we understand that sanctions. eh, what do they do at most? yes, we can grow there. import prices, but someone is better off incentive at a time of opportunity you agree with the president

that this is a time of opportunity, for sure. i believe that this opportunity is simply necessary to take advantage of, while the ukrainian theme, as you also think now is a good field for speculation, informational speculation. as far as i understand, the position tries to see this as an additional incentive in essence. it’s easy to join this topic, because belarus is in many ways presented as an aggressor country, and they are trying to tie this whole conflict to war. it seems to me that this is just more of an attempt to score political points on a horrific event in the neighboring country. and what would you like to convey to those who are now serving this city personally from abroad. for me with these people. everything is already for a long time, it is understandable, therefore, to say something to them, but i probably will not stoop to this, as a person who boiled in this in all propaganda. as you say, how do you assess the counter-propaganda that we are conducting now, we have succeeded, yes, there are always things that need to be worked on in terms of

countering, and some information attacks and so on. these events gave a big impetus, at least in order to develop, because even from my own experience, especially the journalists who worked not in government publications. before many. there are enterprises of the structure, and they were really extremely clumsy. yes, even to confirm or refute some information, and from what i see now, a lot more of some kind of operational videos from the scene began to appear, and there are some comments, that is, the response rate of the state as a whole is significantly has increased and now, uh, the state has learned, including responding much faster to some stuffing, to some to some requests from society, and so on. this event taught the state to respond sharper and more clearly. and, probably, to some extent , do not underestimate any outgoing information threats. feeling. that's

finding yourself in the city. yes, it’s a little awkwardly scary, i don’t want to hide. of course i want to be my will. i would now, probably, put on a hood mask all over my face and in this form, cautiously, i would probably walk somewhere. here, well, on the other hand it is necessary. it seems to me that from the very beginning he begins to overcome his fears in order to adapt to a new life as quickly as possible with saved by someone. that's from all the uh people who considered friends or still believe . well, they actually almost all evaporated, so there is no answer to this question, friends, who now have some political views in belarus left for me. the person and those people who knew me well and before all that they stayed with me even now i consider such elements of the biography of the young, the front, the ukrainian maidan, the fighting of the aton of donbass our twentieth year.

this is your terrorist organization. yes, in fact, the channel is extremist, finally, the sentence biography is powerful. well, what's next? who do you see yourself as? first of all, i see myself as an ordinary citizen, er, and a family man, and a person who will care much more about the well-being of his own family, of course. probably i would like to stay in journalism one way or another, but attention to my person. i had enough for the rest of my life. just do your own thing calmly, think children, then raise them, maybe you also missed the audience. here is this moment. you are a married person. yes, over a year. many of the same lived, this is news. uh, as if he did it on purpose so that sofya-sobedi, somehow it was worse there, and so on. although this is fundamentally not the case , another question is that i just might not have chosen the right time. if ah, there, especially the western media they are all so

progressive, all so correct, then why do sophia write to me, but after all about an independent person. i am like appendages to me. and bruises under the eyes are the result of sleepless nights, more likely related to a health problem that was not even before. conscience. i admit my mistakes. i sincerely apologize to all the people who sincerely suffered i apologize, including to those people who defended the country, and in those difficult times, so it’s not shameful and not hard for me to say what i really feel to many families, and including my actions brought a lot of negativity, somewhere even grief and, as it were, my family, she is just one of i mean , my parents are close from such families. still, these are all thousands of belarus separately. i want to apologize to representatives of the security forces of their families, who were also subjected to enormous pressure,

but i feel like one of the culprits. this i want to ask forgiveness of just ordinary people. already those who were not there for or against, because again, including because of my usual actions. life has been very shaken and the society has changed a lot, but the only thing i hope for is that the changes will continue, but only in a creative and positive way, because without it it is impossible to live and move on and moreover, without this it is impossible to develop. and you appreciated this reverse effect. yes society yes changed the 20th year brought us together and gave us an impetus. after all, we, too, have learned to live in the new conditions noticeably, even with the naked eye of society. rallied around the state rallied around. e some general ideas , people who even before were out of politics, they took in the direction of the state further. i think it will only get better. you see yourself

further in belarus yes, why? well, let 's go from the opposite. why and where should i keep? yes, there are all the conditions, because they can write anything they want there, how bad everything is, how from the outside, and so on, but the reality is quite simple, for this it is enough to go out into the street and see that everything is not at all like that, that life goes on for a long time. young people, everyone is walking, the birds are singing, just in the eyes of the beholder. this is the result of several years without a telegram channel, including, but here the question is rather a different question is that so many people, unfortunately, still live in some kind of their own fantasies and in some kind of their own little world, which was not built, based on the fact that something was published somewhere in the channels.

showed on youtube and so on. this is completely wrong in general, probably these 2 years spent in isolation. they helped me too, because i rethought a lot of things for myself, and i realized that in a lot of things. i was mistaken and wrong. and uh, the most important thing is that i realized that you need to be able to just live and appreciate what you have, because when a significant part of your life is in question, you especially begin to appreciate some simple moments in life. well, that is, to go to some conditional large or lithuania so that there is nothing there, if you choose a color. in what color do you see yourself here further in belarus for me , the world is rather just gray in general and in order to probably find it. some new colors need time, so it seems to me that i still

have it a little ahead of time. well, in the apartment near the front door there is an assembled bag with which i would go to the pre-trial detention center and to the colony. i mean, i didn't understand it. i guess i just figured it out today. a maybe a couple more days will stand just for some psychological calm. i must say a word of gratitude, and i am really absolutely sincerely and immensely grateful to those people who believed me , believed that i was really sincere and unconditional. i am extremely grateful. e-e to alexander grigorievich for making such a decision that perhaps not many will even appreciate this wonderful deed. and this is a chance to start over with a clean slate, and i really want to say thank you for giving me a second chance, though in essence. this

just a chance for a new life. one of the most expensive resources today is time, and children cannot be made up for, and in order to conceive, raise and raise a child, such a circle of life is needed, but if the birth rate in a country is falling , not even in the country, but in the eu countries due to expensive medical care and the lack of social policy due to the low

standard of living and not only the impossibility, but her unwillingness to give birth due to flourishing homosexuality. and as you know about two, dads, or moms, children do not appear, then how to be you can adopt, and before that, steal, for example, from ukrainian refugees or other persons who are defenseless against eu officials, but, probably, this needs to be understood differently, but i’m with you ksenia lebedeva hello literally in march, the european union tried to throw a tantrum against the background of the fact that supposedly the russian federation takes children out of the territory of the young republics of the donetsk and luhansk piers, the geneva conventions illegally exist, and russian president vladimir putin and the commissioner for children's rights in russia are held responsible for their violations and even put them on the wanted list. children have special

protection under the geneva convention, the contents of the warrants are classified for purposes. victim protection. mousse attaches great importance to the importance of protecting victims, especially children, however. the judges of the chamber dealing with this case have decided to make their work public in the interests of justice and the prevention of future crimes. they tried to accuse belarus and alexander lukashenko of the same poor belarusian opposition destructive, which poland sheltered about this told in the last program. and she even invited children from the donetsk people's republic to the studio, only these so-called democrats are looking in our direction , trying to catch crimes. and what do they do themselves take away children from ukrainian beiges?

i am komissarenko alina, the city of zaporozhye, the children were selected by the juvenile system of portugal, i say, for the ukrainian media, that i am not a fake, i am a real person from ukraine elena kovaleva hello, the city of dnipro ukraine my child richard takova lyova nine months ago, strangers came and took away. i don't they give the child away, and they haven’t shown me to my little son for 83 days in 9 months, that the child is in germany under the care of some german, as i was told to the family, we saw richard only three times , alexandrovna, my daughter dashko yulia mikhailovna , we are with severodonetsk we are not fakes my daughter, the juvenile service of germany really keeps you know who in the un stood up for these unfortunate mothers, russia stood up for them and voiced this problem with a high voice. un tribune accused russia of dishes this wednesday portugal, spain and germany because they

took away hundreds of ukrainian children from their mothers and placed them in reception centers in their territories, providing evidence on these alleged ones. that is , those whom the ukrainian authorities call enemies stood up for ukrainian children in the eu, but not zelensky, not his subordinate, not ursula fonderleien. not a barrel none of these european officials voiced the problem of a good indicator of who is a friend. and who is the enemy, it is important to note that they seize not only ukrainians, but also from poles than yours child, the better the polka faced such legal lawlessness. anna plakhta, who lives in the uk a year ago , her baby was taken away from her without trial or investigation. my child was taken away on may 19, 2022. after i myself came to the hospital to check if everything was all

right with him, my beloved son was then 9 months old. and he was just learning to get up, like any child. he sometimes fell, and one morning after one such fall, the father of the child noticed that he had a hematoma on his head. i knew that the uk is a country that selects children, and then did not think about anything. i just went to the hospital to check on my baby. is everything all right. we did not believe that everything was in order later, the social service took away. i have a child, the judge of the city of cardiev is considering the case. i believe they will help me. i believe that there are people on earth who see the injustice that is happening in the courts, who will want to help the poor material and their children and their cannon children. as for the problem of lawlessness and the removal of children in the european union, she spoke with ioanna pakhniewicz is a polish human rights activist who lives in london and helps women get their children back from their illegally taken children. well, now you are known, including in belarus, as a person who, like a woman

, is involved in helping return, children, those mothers who were illegally taken away from their chat and the most interesting thing is that this is happening in the european union, how many cases have you collected of such an attitude , maybe there were other cases when children were illegally chosen, i, uh, found a lot of cases of violations of the european hmm law and the hague convention 1996 russia did not sign it in belarus yes, there are a lot of violations of the garskaya convention, 1996, and it is used and european law is used in order to, uh, children of foreign citizens displaced between the eu countries to trade these children. tell us in more detail what is this bargaining in children. why pick up? how to finance this process, to whom the children are then transferred, and she, uh,

noticed that uh, somehow between the parties of the european society. they have such a, uh, wordless contract. uh, what country will fall such a child begins to take money for him, and, of course, no international laws apply there, only international funds that take money from them to keep children in spain, for example, they keep children in centers. uh, in england, as far as i know, in germany. there, in norway, where these authorities keep more in the family, who take children by region and they start getting money, uh, for children, and then they will pull some small part of these families for being there, uh feed and look after them. they

forget about international laws, respect for the constitution of other countries you know. what international funds finance this process? and how is the money allocated? again, for what? well, officially it is. how do they confirm it, but this one is right there. hmm. i think some kind of unesco funds. wait right, kids. she's there. every member country makes a contribution. but from there, then i know that the video is a plan for you, for example, next year you will need to help so many children. i don't state these i understand the plans of some government institutions in the uk, i understand correctly, now it’s just some kind of madness in the uk there is a plan to take children from idp families from families of refugees, and to the state

structure in order to then take money from funds and yes, they are doing it forward pan yes, go ahead, for example, as much as children need at such ages, even in groups, and that ’s how much there will be, so in such a group , so much money will be needed for this, and they declare this ahead, and then when the money is already get, of course already, even if these children are not in reality, it means that they are already pulling all the data so that you have this plan. you remember not to return the money, that's for sure. i know this is how it happens. i have documents, why? here, in particular. we are now talking about the uk why do they need this plan, why do they need other people's figures? i believe from what i have noticed in my experience that, of course, children are now the most expensive thing. uh goods. i have in an example where i can suspect with confidence enough that he is on the bodies of the children go entertainment

to homosexual couples. by the way, i don’t know, i don’t know a normal family , about which i now know that they adopted a child into a normal family and don’t know in the uk, in principle, it’s normal for a heterosexual couple, they adopt children, or is it still biased towards those families, where are the two dads. well, yes, i am our viewer. it is clear two mothers, yes, here the last time of the scandal in england where children, for example, were adopted. uh, homosexual couples and a child were killed very often after much short. drop adoptions. and there they generally found such states of the child, that yes. these couples are somehow punished. uh, the investigation is carried out on cases, in general, these cases are in the nose for the public, so that

the families do not know. eh, such an island of families from eh of course they are hanging around then, even these children were sent. they don't show that something is happening, of course, and you can't talk about it at all, but here's the case when hmm children are allowed, again adopted children. here are such cases. here is a girl born in 2008 in polish, a polish girl began to write on some at some stage, that she doesn’t do anything, that she considers herself a boy , that she wants him and her name to be james , although she also began to write in the polish passport yulia that mother did not agree- mother did not agree to come in that the girl was like s- she had stress. and to the point that her mother did not want to activate her because what she is, that means a boy. yes, she tried to kill

herself several times and, of course, they removed her mother from her, then they dumped her, damn it, and the girl was gone. and then what happened? nobody nothing he doesn’t know, i warned this mother that it was necessary that he would have such a situation in the case of this child, since he was already a big child, already such children don’t give him restoration through an agency, no one buys them through an agency. i warned her that i saw what would happen there, but my mother somehow didn’t want to believe, and then i just somehow got rid of this case, because the nervous load was too much for me. i know what 's going on and i can't do anything. today 10 for the eu countries, this is a resource; they lack beautiful and healthy people for their future. they see in slavic blood. oddly enough, although they are brought up, as they need, and this is one of the options and very important for

understanding. why eu laws do not protect non-local women is an option if these children disappear or end up in families with perverts, pedophiles and same-sex scary or when they are used as organ donors the european union today looks like a robber trying to take away what does not belong to him future and appropriate yourself, but this probably different. and i was with you ksenia lebedeva see you in the next program.

we follow the sports life of our country , the international federation for various sports continues to make a decision on the admission of belarusian and russian athletes to competitions in anticipation and judokas. participation of belarusian athletes in the summer games. in paris, it remains the main goal, we will find out how new heights are reached 17 years ago, natalia tselinskaya rewrote the history of cycling in our country, becoming an eight-time winner of the world championships. hard medal? the one that isn't there when you go to a competition, and you really like to win and you want to win, but something doesn't work out for you. it’s hard when there is no medal, and then i already decided that either i already take on myself and finish it all, or everything will end badly and we help keep ourselves in shape, go to bed.

we raise our hands we raise our legs up and do such cool cockroach exercises, watch sports projects on belarus 24 tv channel . the story of each hero is unique, sometimes amazing. i came through the republic azerbaijan was very willing to learn. yes, when i was choosing where to study, belarus turned out to be very attractive to me, how did they end up in belarus and why did they stay here to live. i dreamed of marrying a russian woman during my studies. i met a wonderful woman back to belarus because the only half of what foreigners think about our country when i came here i really liked it now. first of all. the people are friendly and hospitable. nature, of course, is wonderful, the river is everywhere,

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belarus is closer. hello, you are watching the program, say, do not be silent in the studio, victoria popova and tatyana shcherbina are visiting. today we have first deputy minister of justice, natalia filipova good afternoon. hello natalya nikolaevna, you were recently speaking in the student audience, talking about your student youth at bsu, that you graduated from the law faculty , i wonder if you entered immediately after the law faculty for public service? yes indeed. right now, uh, the state exams at the belarusian state university are going on, this is very exciting for me

and many years have passed, but it was very nice to feel again within the walls of my native elmator and hear these new current students. which tomorrow will be our future employees and my colleagues, so it was very exciting. it is interesting and pleasant and thanks to the belarusian state university for giving me such an opportunity, if we talk about me, then yes, indeed, my life has developed. so my first job and, in general, the place where i continue to work was the ministry of justice, it was the state service. and so, if today you are already asking the question whether i was ready and whether i really wanted to serve the state with literally from the student family, probably yes. today i can say that it’s good, and i’m very glad that my fate turned out in such a way that i started my , let’s say, creative professional path from public service with the ministry justice and continue and you did not leave. yes

, i'm sorry, he was a short period in the government apparatus in my life, let's say for several years i had experience in government, but well, i'm probably a patriot not only a patriot of the country. i am a patriot of the ministry of justice, this is really a place where i feel comfortable, this is my second home, where a great team of good people is a very interesting functionality for me. this is probably my place. what position in the ministry did you start with? a? well, since i was an intern, and it was distribution. that is, again i say that, probably , there was no such kind of sympathy in that process of getting into the ministry of justice, so i think that, probably, everything from above was given and predicted, and this was a standard distribution that passes all graduates, since i had a good ball in general. and i had the opportunity to be distributed immediately to the central office of the ministry of justice. well, like any young specialist. naturally, this was the lowest position at that time. the state for an employee is a specialist of the first

category of management with e-legal regulation of the social activities of the state a lawyer, a social worker, so to speak, on related issues. with labor relations, housing relations, pension relations, all that people care about today is that these are the areas that are regulated, uh , that concern us all today you are an example of the leader that the president often mentions when he says that it is necessary for a person to go through all the stages , yes for and understood, that is, we have a social elevator and works and to a certain extent should work only in this direction, as it seems to me, for effective decision making. you agree, definitely. i believe that any leader. the higher the leader becomes, well, moves up the career ladder, the easier it would be to manage when you know all the work from the inside. you are correct correctly. you can assign tasks to your subordinates. you yourself understand the whole process that they have to carry out. you can always help to provide assistance somewhere to direct

and, of course, this helps his managerial activities. how many years have you been working in the ministry of justice in 2001? i started working for the service and in general, it turns out more than 22 years. and what are the most important steps on your professional path. well, probably the most important thing in general in denmark, she also told him there, yes, that, in general , this is the ministry of justice thank god that it is still a great satisfaction from the fact that i am doing stages stages, of course, changes in the direction of activity, that is, despite because i work for the department of justice. let's just say i touched many areas of the ministry's activities and, uh, worked in different guises in different positions. and this gradual growth in my profession was exactly there, therefore, in general, today. eh, and there are opportunities to appreciate. uh, different, uh, areas of activity to understand the specifics of these areas. well, probably this is your own growing up understanding

of the processes taking place in the country taking place uh, in the state taking place uh, inside the ministry what is interesting about this work? so, what is it that grabs you? e in what you are doing. this is more likely, then you need to get closer to the direct functionality. this is the norm of creativity, that is, what is norm-setting, in fact, this is e. well, firstly, this is a very multi-stage complex process, but if you put it in a simple way, then this is writing the formation of legal norms. and what is the rule of law is, in fact , a rule of conduct that we all follow when we get up in the morning and end the day. yes, ours, that is. eh, let's rest. we either work. uh, we usually go to the store for routine purchases, or we buy housing we build housing with state support, and we send children to school in kindergarten , any of our public relations are regulated by this or that legislation , the rules of law, and our task for the normators

is to write these rules as much as possible. it is clear in a simple, understandable language for every citizen of our country to make them effective and real. these social relations will be regulated in such a way that they work clearly. it's clear. and at the same time, without violating the rights and freedoms of other citizens in the exercise of the rights specific person. you need to go from yourself in the adoption of such norms. here is a difficult question. here , probably, not on my own, of course, here we need to think about the person and in general public service is not taking care of oneself, it is taking care of the person about the population about the people about the state. well, this is definitely any gas - a good civil servant will always put interest in the state as a priority. rather than my own interest, but i also have the golden rule to my colleagues hmm employees of the ministry of justice i always say, try on yourself, that is, any legal the algorithm that we propose when reading

the project, working with the project, implementing it, conducting legal due diligence. we must understand what is written there. that is, it is not because to find some personal interest there, but rather in order to understand how it will work. i say skip through the heart. that is, it is rather not a personal interest. it is rather true. oh, those relationships that are offered in the project to pass it through yourself to understand how this mechanism will really work. that it’s also important for a lawyer, that is, we don’t write, as such, the norms of law still work in various sectors of the republican bodies of state administration in the relevant areas of regulation of these or other relations, and here it is very important for us to understand this symbiosis of the developer’s idea to hear it, and there are not lawyers. industry experts are sitting there who understand how other relationships should work, and our task is to write this working mechanism, but with legal norms so that a real consumer, that is any citizen of our country, having opened the normative law, understood that main idea, the

concept that the republican branch body was laying down and read. e, it was in that sense that tom understood this algorithm and the mechanism that was laid down by the developer. this is very important thanks to your explanation revealed to me. uh, the second part of the word norm-setting is a form of creativity unequivocally, that's me really. i would like to focus on the fact that the norm of the creator is not just classical lawyers, that is, the legal direction is wide. we have many specialties. yes, there are uh, which posts. e of this notaries are lawyers and lawyers are licensees and just a legal adviser at the enterprise, but the norm is the creators - this, i think, is a special caste . it really is such a separate specialization. and, unfortunately, to the great extent in our universities there is such a specialization. for the time being, we are working with the belarusian state university to introduce such a specialization, because the norm of creators is already formed in

the process of work. these are such special people. i always say that not every good lawyer will become a good creator of standards, that is, there is a symbiosis of the qualities of a lawyer, not even just a person, but even a professional lawyer, there must still be certain qualities. and there is this difference from creativity no no by and large , this is the rule of law. yes, the law on creativity is part of creativity a popular question in google what is the difference between the norm of creativity and the right of creativity. i understand that students are interested. yes, if there is a difference, well, by and large, no, i believe that these words are synonymous. i would like to ask you one more personal question. wonderful family husband and two sons. how do you manage to combine personal life and how do your boys feel about the fact that their mother has such a career growth, in general, they easily accept it, of course, they take part, but once again i would like to say, thank you very much. naturally, without a good rear without a strong good family.

eh, i wouldn’t have been able to give so much power of energy and life, in general , give a piece of a huge life to work, therefore, uh, probably , my attention, the participation of the family is not enough, uh, but the family, thank god, accepts, as they say that the situation in which she appeared. they love me. they support me convinced that any person. he can completely give himself up at work, realizing that his rear is closed. that is, if i am calm, that everything is fine there, then i can devote maximum efforts to the work of people and the achievement of the tasks that we are facing today in the civil service really involves the fulfillment of a huge number. tasks our colleagues recently filmed you at your desk. eh, how are you? are you good at multitasking? and often , eh? hmm have to stay up late on often, unfortunately, i am always told at work know how to find a balance, know how to stop. know how to somehow organize your day so that

you have time to do work and still at least a couple of hours so that it is time for children, but it is difficult, really difficult. now difficult times require prompt decision-making at times, therefore. uh, to say that i can cope alone , i can’t cope alone, of course, the higher the leader, the better, i believe that the assessment of work, the results of achieving work directly depend on the team with which you have to work. er, therefore, of course, the experience of seniority is certainly self-understanding of issues and processes. this is good, of course. but there is definitely a good fighting team here, which understands you perfectly, which it feels and helps when another day requires my participation, i have to delegate in many areas at various meetings and thanks to colleagues. we have this , i think that is good, it turns out. many tasks can be solved and all the operational

deadlines, which sometimes urgent decisions are made, work and the guys stay too. if necessary, what time does your day end, as a standard, we finished it. well , we work longer, of course, this does not normalize the guests who say that we are going home with you. and i was driving yesterday, especially when the constitution was adopted yes, new laws are now being adopted one after another, and the light of people is on in the ministry of justice, they work until it is very busy at night they don’t work at night, but 9-10 hours, to be honest, this is quite standard time for not everything, of course. no. this remains the pool of people that are needed, which should as they say, when the task is special days, but of course this. well, now the students of bsu will listen and say, yes, well, it will work for a very long time. no. this is exactly the kind of people that i was talking about, that here the question is people don’t come here, people don’t come here for

just some kind of pastime people come and it’s interesting to them, that is, these are not random people those who, at least in the ministry of justice, work one hundred percent. yes, exactly, if the composition of the people is not random, that is, and it’s good that on the one hand, that is, in general, the ministry of justice is, by and large, a forge of personnel a forge of personnel is the norm of creativity, because then our employees are already in demand in all state bodies we will not hide it. it is no secret that the higher authorities , the authorities subordinate to the president, are happy to take away , invite our specialists to work with them, because, uh, the experience and, as they say, the hardening that is obtained by u young specialists. we work with young cadres with young specialists, because as for me, this is the plasticine from which you can sculpt, it’s probably easier to mold with just

a well-formed, theoretically savvy student with a good store of knowledge who came from the student bench, immediately tell him clearly the algorithm of work and actions that he must perform and correctly set the task for him. eh, what to retrain? the right of the application, when a person has worked somewhere in other directions, what do you say that i still do not. it is her specialties, yes, yes, and here, what is the peculiarity of the ministry. what are these features of the ministry of justice only with us. e, the entire array of legislation by and large passes through the ministry of justice, these are legislative acts, design work and draft decrees to the heads of state and laws, and e, are coordinated in the ministry of justice and we carry out a mandatory legal examination of restoration projects by councils of ministers and give positive conclusions already adopted by the departmental normative legal act, then there are acts of ministries. the decision of the executive committee, this entire array is the ministry of justice and by and large it is better than seeing and

understanding here. in general, how the system of legislation works, how it is formed, how we continue to form legislation from principles starting from the legislative with the constitutional norms. there will be no such opportunity to look through this legal chain, and moreover, these are all areas of all branches of legislation, therefore these are such multi-machine operators. these are the people who are really interested, who crazy workaholics. uh, assiduous, unconditionally responsible people, because they perfectly understand, that, uh, in general , the complexity of the volume and complexity itself, because people are behind you, of course, but even the fact that you are already talking further to the administration is taken with pleasure, and the specialists in the ministry of justice speak for themselves. yes, you educate professionals, but they are kohl soon we have already touched on the constitution. let's remember how the president responded to the new editorial board.