for pasta for the year increased by 17%, in germany , the son of cheese has risen in price by 40%. the situation in the uk. even worse, the price of white bread rose by 28% the german interior minister announced that she intends to tighten the control -german-polish border due to the growth of illegal migration in the first 4 months of the year 110,000 applications for refugee status were registered. this is almost 80% more than a year ago, most applicants came from syria and afghanistan belarus russia join forces to improve family policy and protection the rights of workers who are raising children. the initiative of the belarusian trade union, industry workers and the mining and metallurgical trade union of russia, this platform is part of an international women's seminar. the day before, she gathered representatives of enterprises from 29 and russian

cities in rodina. how to combine parenthood and work responsibilities. and who can count on a flexible schedule and additional guarantees, the participants exchanged their experience in the work of the commission among women, legislative developments and the implementation of support programs, semey ya i saw in particular that at the enterprises of belarus, as well as at the enterprises of the russian federation, the trade unions have the same goals and tasks. these are worthy wages for employees of enterprises, decent working conditions, care for the health of workers and care for moral and ethical and spiritual education. uh, including children of family members. as a result, each of the parties agreed to revise the legislative framework and, if necessary, make their proposals for finalizing the documents. well, on this i have all the new information at 15:00 with julia pepper. all the best.

hello on the air, the program sas is authorized to announce its host nadezhda sas i welcome you and remind you. this is a program for those who want to better understand what is happening and understand how these processes , events, people will affect the life of everyone and the life of the country, and the main events of world politics this week. let us tell you right now the president of the republic of belarus alexander lukashenko took part in the plenary session of the 2nd eurasian economic forum held in moscow. in

the event was also attended by the leaders of russia, kazakhstan, kyrgyzstan, and a member of the armenian government, alexander lukashenko, in his speech, emphasized the need to create an integrated information system within the eurasian economic community that would ensure an adequate level of information security and simplify the exchange of information between the authorities of the eaeu member states, another priority vector. you see union improvement of transport infrastructure and development of efficient logistics in connection with the reversal of our export flows to the southeast, it is very important to jointly open a window to the countries of the named region. this is a bottomless market. for our goods. our response to the sanctions pressure is the intensification of interaction between the sco brix and the axes in concluding new trade agreements and this constructive mutually beneficial cooperation with everyone. who is ready to be friends and work with us. 19:21 may in the japanese city of

hiroshima, a summit of the countries of the so-called seven was held by the main organization of the collective west, the event was expectedly visited ukrainian president vladimir zelensky what made the fight against russia a key theme of the event, western leaders did not skimp on threats against moscow and words of support for the kiev regime , however, the news that the russian troops captured the city of bakhmut on donbass the battle that lasted for many months and cost the lives of tens of thousands of fighters on both sides, however , the leaders of the g7 tried to demonstrate that they were determined to continue to achieve at the same time, the hopes of zelensky to achieve the defeat of russia, as well as the leaders of india, brazil, who came to keroshima, to abandon the policy of benevolent neutrality towards moscow, dissipated like a fog from the fujiyama fight with russia, the west remains without allies.

the information front of the new cold war the theme of our today 's program in the famous soviet film about military intelligence officers there is such a dialogue between the actors playing the officers of the german intelligence service of the avr should be primitive, like a drawing of a savage. everyone believed and the latest events related to the ongoing conflict in ukraine prove that millions are still becoming victims of propaganda disinformation, although its methods are still primitive, but with a mask for the propaganda machine , the blood of the information war that is growing in our region is used, and we will talk all external program to understand. in this interesting topic. i will be assisted by olga aleksandrovna shpilevskaya, director of the representative office of the international television and radio broadcasting company mir in belarus the chairman of the belarusian union is a woman. hello.

andrey viktorovich manula is with us today, dr. poli of these sciences, professor of moscow state university named after alla lomonosov member of the scientific council under the security council of the russian federation hello, i am glad to welcome in our studio dmitry vasilets joins our skype program , the head of a banned ukrainian political party, power. hello dmitry, incredibly grateful, what are you with us today? well, let's start our program and, of course, questions will come true olga alexander's strength. still in the truth there is certainly strength in the truth there was and will be and uh, this is probably the only thing that will save the world. it's true andrei viktorovich of course it's true, this is the most terrible weapon, and crushing all obstacles, but the truth must be able to convey. dmitry how do you think the power is still in the truth, of course, if it were not so, then american corporations would not block the youtube channels of those leaders, the opinions of opposition politicians and

the media. this we see that there is an elitist gap back. and this is what they fight on the right. tell me dmitry , what do you think, uh, the media power of the zelensky regime of his team, in particular, monstrously lie, or and in the speed of decision-making , initiative, why? how often today one hears that the russian media machine is weak, if we talk about victories on the information front, that is, what else to work on, what is the strength of the ukrainian media? it is not a secret for anyone here that the anglo-saxons, namely they are now behind all the processes that are now in ukraine unfortunately, there are negative ones, it is worth noting here that they have always aimed precisely at fear. that is, they manage to always come without fear. they have such

a colonial, here is the policy of the colonial approach, and therefore here we see that the nato countries are betting. they rule within the country. they did it on the body. but already when serious hostilities began, which when the russian federation was already switched off in e, a full-fledged such military operation by senatorial countries. and now there is a confrontation, then here we are we see that the level of repression, it has intensified many times precisely against the ukrainian people. i think that all of us present here are at the forefront of the information front. and we understand what difficulties you have to face today with the abundance of fakes and ways to manipulate public consciousness, in your opinion. what methods of struggle can be used by the belarusian media community today in order to secure society, well, before the belarusian medical community, i’ll answer the question why and

ukrainian media as a propaganda tool works effectively. it seems to me, but it is important where our grains fall, and the soil, i mean, the consciousness of the ukrainian people was prepared for these particular grains to fall into this soil. that is , this is not a story that they began to work differently and the people followed them. yes, this is the story of preparing the long consciousness of ukrainians for what they perceive today and how they perceive it. as for the work of the belarusian media space. after all, we are also after the twentieth year, but i will say why we won the information battle then at that moment , not even because we were ready for it. and because the consciousness of our belarusians was not ready for such a large perception of fake lies that were born, and from the outside , we still had a large part of the population, but believed the state media . our state-owned mass media have not lost the trust of the population, and plus the state-owned

mass media in belarus remain mainstream media. and we understand that the one who owns the media sets the rhetoric. yes, and how, roughly speaking, he orders music , so the state never acts against its people. it acts on the association, therefore, we, and as a mass media, now work. it's just that our main task is to tell the truth, but this truth is on time for us. e, although there was also such a moment when you know, there are very officials . such can be. we don't say something we won’t agree or we’ll say about it later today , we managed to break it in this regard, that is, we are all, uh, that mouthpiece is that source of information that has the most recent information. you see, it’s only difficult for a layman to understand with us, where is the truth, because everyone who shares information claims that the truth is exclusively his andrey viktorovich i want to thank you for the fact that for preparation in the program we used the materials on which you have been working for many years. here i would like

us to display the schedule of the main task information war. here is to break the enemy's will to resist, to subdue his consciousness of his will. divide polarize society tear it into many shreds and fragments to make these fragments sincerely hate each other. and, frankly, it turned out quite effectively in the same ukraine on the territory of ukraine yes, all these schemes that are used in modern information wars of information operations. they are extremely simple. eh, as well as very simple. uh, basic basic the american scheme , and the conduct of information operations, which underlies all operations carried out by a on the channel and open telecommunication networks by american intelligence, since the panama dossier since 2016, it is simple and therefore effective. here it is, as well as this algorithm, because, uh, there is nothing to break there. and in

this regard, it is important to understand that these are the opponents, e armed e, very well with technologies, e simple, but very effective, and only the state can beat it, firstly. here is the first special service, because that's their field. that is, by themselves, ordinary citizens will not be able to protect themselves. how much, even if we talk about the need to be critical of the information that is supplied from various sources to check the fact of checking, uh, it still does not save, because u information questions that are used in modern information warfare operations. they affect the emotional sphere of a person and their task is to make the emotional ones start up sharply and emotionally suppressed the rational. by the way, the place of fakes in the information war is also a wonderful graphic, which is worth

paying attention to, please, that's what andrey viktorovich is talking about absolutely right. the main thing is to evoke emotions. and, of course, already when the society is so captured by emotions, it is very easy to convey the information that is definitely beneficial for the groups. and dmitry, you are still with us. tell me please, but what do you think at the moment? who makes key decisions in the information war, which is primarily in ukraine, as far as the authorities in ukraine today are independent, as far as possible, it is supervised by other special services. and in general, how do you feel about and what do you invest in this concept as information hygiene. perhaps she is with a simple ukrainian today. the fact is that information hygiene is impossible in the modern world , like belarus. as in russia, such in ukraine , of course, if we take

zelensky’s regime from the point of view of independence, then, in principle, it’s generally pointless to say we we see, now it’s just the wreckage of the ukrainian state, on which the zelensky regime was set up with various truths and lies , polytechnologies and so on. and uh, now we see that absolutely all the key processes. unfortunately, they are controlled from across the ocean. and we see this, yes, almost every day, regarding very important issues in the country's information security , and so on. that is here. unfortunately. it must be admitted that now the enemy is ten times stronger, because information corporations such as the corner such as microsoft, uh, it's not belarusian , not russian, and not ukrainian, especially companies. and now, in fact, they control about half of the information flow. and unfortunately, if we take the classic

media, the state media, according to the latest statistics , it is about 50, maximum, 60%. 40 dash 50% is already the internet. and here already we see that the state is somehow impossible. this is how to block enemy resources. and here we are watching something need to line up here are the great chinese pens file, which can still provide relative safety in terms of. here is the question. here is the dispersal of panic hysteria. uh, either you still need to go some other way tech giants, they now dominate the internet. that is to resist to oppose anything to these corporations. unfortunately, we see that we are not yet able to. we see that russia is torn apart in this regard, and yandex writes a debatable issue. you have touched. and how

then to fight, if today there is media platforms that are certainly created by western society? yes, again, we are talking about youtube , on which we also broadcast and when we have to break these algorithms in order to find an opportunity to convey this information our truthful information to the viewer, or we understand that there is instagram telegram right there and today it is extremely difficult to use everything leverage provided again by the western intelligence services, because again, if they hear unwanted information, they are ready to destroy and block any person, regardless of its coverage. but how to fight if the same, for example, in russia, instagram was closed. people still use it, what needs to be done to create competitive ones, i don’t agree with the fact that you don’t need to fight on someone else’s site. this site exists. we allowed it to be created. we cherished her, cherished her, right? we've come there. we brought all of our people there. e

fellow citizens, we are open to this site and just leave these sites. for example, i need to fight the enemy to the last and on these sites, including everything you need to do possible options. in any case, one should not think that all internet users are people who consume only one type of information. today, thank god, many understand that when you read some information, you need to look at more sources, and the internet allows you to check or make sure something. believe me, the one who seeks will always find, and the same residents of the european union with whom, for example, i have to communicate , find ways how russians enter instagram and they are in order to read the same russian media or see them, if we remove them from there, then, in general, we will just completely ask ourselves on this site. you can't do it. yes? certainly necessary. eh, technologically catch up too. unfortunately, while catching up, yes, and somewhere in some moments and overtaking and trying to look for some new ways of communication, but we have one weapon that we began to use after the twentieth year

, it’s definitely good, forgotten grandfather’s weapon. for that matter, yes, the mosin rifle is there and i understand very well in these yes, but this is an old weapon , it's a face-to-face conversation. in our country, after the twentieth year, all civil servants, all officials , got up and went to collectives. you smile skeptically. i will tell you that there were a lot of skeptics when we started this process. now there are much fewer of these skeptics i will explain why, because when you come, what is the youth audience that really sits on social networks is real, they watch bt or any other state television will forgive me bts tv too, yes, and will not see us with you will not see our program. but when i come to them, they will see me and even if at the beginning they are skeptical of me, i do everything in order to wake up this audience, and at least a grain of doubt. i am in this audience, and with some kind of this moment, which they are introduced into them via the internet, they will understand in advance that there is an alternative. plus, it's face-to- face communication. i always tell you, you never know who brings you information on the other

side, you don’t see this person. what about me you see you see my eyes. you understand, i'm lying, i'm telling you or i'm still telling you the truth. teach if do you agree yes please yes i absolutely agree with my esteemed colleague. e is that e is a tactic of prohibitions and an attempt to cut off. uh, those canals and those western platforms that exist and operate today are the dead end road. this is the path of a not very well developed official, for whom if a problem arises, it is better for him to remove this problem somewhere. uh, in a distant place, it's better to shut it down and ban it, so that it does not an eyesore, and the operational point of view is completely different. that's how operational staff is. yeah look at this stuff. well, firstly, if you block, all the sites are western, where you will work. eh, if you do not have channels that you yourself have cut off or they have been stolen from you. and where exactly will you carry out operational combinations, but only active measures and

operational combinations, including using the enemy’s infrastructure, if you can’t use your own or it’s blocked, uh, only operational uh, active measures can e lead to a specific result. uh, how much would ours have? uh, opponents of sites and resources? it only depends if it's their tools or we will make them our resource sites, generally they say, uh, the rules of e stating that one must use the enemy's infrastructure. what's the matter so that he himself provided it in the dark, of course, without suspecting it. uh gave us orders and thought that he was doing everything. this is the only correct solution for him. but this the basic basic rule of modern information operations and one more thing about uh, fakes. uh, uh, uh, the ones we were just talking about are fakes, uh

, lately this is the hit of the season here is how they appeared in 1916 when uh misinformation uh during the uh presidential campaign in the united states when trump was elected for his first term, he is the only one who connected with viral distribution technologies, so they do not converge on tv screens and uh, all the time u sound fakes in the media fakes. now we have seen the diagram. and where is our screen painted, so that each of our viewers is there, in fact, in order to show, uh, the role and place of fakes in the modern information war, this scheme was made. here there is an ideology, which is a system or a set of ideas , there is propaganda, which is good and bad propaganda - this is a tool. uh, the promotion and dissemination of these ideas, ah, but at the same time , propaganda is divided into white gray black , depending on the degree of purity or dirt. e in the technologies that are there and the reception that are used and we see that here they are, uh,

so, uh, three branches are divided. and pay attention, where is the fakes, and the fakes are located is a small square in the lower right corner, and on the fake, which is a very highly specialized tool of information and psychological influence, and with the help of which people cannot be controlled. you can only create a stir around a real rainy information floor. this is so fake accounts for less than one percent of the total volume of information warfare. and if all the specialists who are already many who deal with the information war all rush to expose the fakes in a crowd, and the ukrainian side, for example, specifically makes sure that the fakes are made crookedly, so that it is easy to see the inconsistencies , expose them and then run up sleeves and say i won 250 fakes today. of these , 249 are unmanned. and if all the experts are closed on these fakes that they throw up. this means that all other fronts, the information war, remain unprotected

. and that's where the blow is struck, but at the same time it still succeeds. yes, here there is already a thread. by the way, now we will find out what it is to create - this is the informational ghetto that we are seeing today in ukraine, er, dear friends. let's take a look at our reference. what is it, we understand together the sheps, the center of information and psychological special operations, the ukrainian unit of the armed forces of ukraine, which deals with cyber attacks, was founded in 2004, but the real activity was deployed after the euro maidanov in 2014, the beginning of an open confrontation with russia, the composition of the otsepsov includes departments of analytical printing telecommunications technology propaganda are responsible for telephones computer technology terrorism and special operations main task is to demoralize society and enemy soldiers through the internet and other communication channels. now the activities after are connected with the spread

of disinformation in order to demoralize russian citizens and provoke. there are several mass protests on the territory of ukraine, each of which has its own curators from the united states, great britain, canada , and possibly other countries. and by the way, it all works quite effectively. and now the ukrainian society is amazing. well, i don’t want to offend and offend anyone, but i’m gradually turning into a zombie who doesn’t want to hear other information and absolutely believes that the ukrainian television called the zomboyaschik single channel broadcasts dmitry. i think you even agree with me on this. here we have to disagree on a number of parameters. i ’m listening to the guests in the studio, we understand that after all , they clearly haven’t come across, uh, american corporations in reality, because if we let's just analyze conditionally 50%

of the belarusian society. they consume information from the internet, which is actually dominated by all-american corporations. for example, in practice, i ran into someone that any youtube channel on which i promise, it is blocked literally within a week, secondly, and collapses are faster literally there in a few. and it turns out any speaker who speaks on the internet? the truth that there really is no war between ukraine and russia now, there is a nato war with russian federation on the territory of ukraine and the people of ukraine are hostages. unfortunately, these international terrorists who have settled in london and washington, and any point of view that is truthful, they simply block it objectively, but the opposite is any point of view that

is filled with lies and complete nonsense. it exists and it works. if he claims that in such a confrontation it is necessary to carry out informational special operations there. there on youtube and so on, it would be nice to do it in english on their territory, but in no case not in russian, nor in belarusian, namely ukraine is excellent, because it turns out that these are the people who think, what they say, let's e sites that are simply liquidated. a sound point of view is an adequate point of view. let 's encourage them and somehow we will conduct information special operations there. i want to explain to you about how your information operations will end with any information resources that you register. they will actually end within a week of two and therefore there is no, alternatives. how to protect these aggressive means, full of brad and fakes

. here is the social internet, uh , american, and yet to develop our own and, of course, control it so that an objective point of view is not deleted anywhere. now i'm not talking about the need to delete the opponent's point of view there, please. well, dmitry, i can’t say that we didn’t. we , like no one else, stood up with american corporations. they worked on our territory, and we tried like no one else, and somewhere even intuitively just resist them. oh, olga aleksandrovna i'm sorry, alexander malkevich, the general director of the tv channel, st. petersburg, is in touch with us right now. first deputy chairman of the commission of the public chamber of russia on the development of the information community of the media and mass communications. why did you interrupt our guest? because now mr. malkevich is on the front line, my first question is how informational operations are,

the regimes of zelensky and the west already really affect the morale of the fighters, because therefore there are different opinions about this, and how it was received at the front. the same operation of the main intelligence directorate of the ministry of defense of ukraine in the belgorod region. hello, well greetings to all of uh. now i am in the zaporozhye region , eh, but you know all these information operations are not directed against fighters against people who live in kherson in zaporozhye belgorod, first of all, too well , the peaceful dpr is investing very serious efforts and funds in dispersing these signals, networks. uh, all over our country. uh in order to cause panic cause destabilization, and taking into account the fact that the military 6 official authorities are rather

slow in their reactions, otherwise they succeed with the enemy. i mean, develop information offensive information is true. uh, we need to react much faster and more clearly and distinctly to those beams and fakes that come from the enemy. what do you think, how to build an effective strategy of information work with the peaceful ukrainian population? because a year ago it was clear that the corresponding work failed? has anything changed since then? well, look, if we are talking about the civilian population that is on the other side, and the lines of contact, then we produce quite a lot of content that is correct, it does not reach, because people are forbidden there, but to use any russian information channels, including russian

telegrams and so there, uh, the fascist government in kiev is consistently tightening the screws. it’s simply forbidden there, it’s practically forbidden to think, but in russian , not to mention speaking russian and we see a huge number of different videos, and in which there he practically settles scores with people who are not talking on the sovereign move what is called therefore, we are doing everything right, but natural strips, for example, they accurately hit our tv towers from mortars for there are questions to the ministry of defense why we don’t do the same, that is , the strip that is located on the other side of the border, and therefore yes, their operations

are effective in this regard, that is, on our side truth. but it's so fun to pack it in a perky way, and beautifully creative as they are, uh, we are for different reasons. well, not ready, or something, that is, we have bright charismatics, there are military correspondents. we really have, uh, but they have technology platforms. so you talked about the sites that they control, and well, and they take, of course, the number by the number. well, including the ability of these western marketing technologies. it's all there, therefore, the struggle. well , of course, not simple. not to mention the fact that the leaders of public opinion, but hunting on their part. this is also true. thank you alexander, i will not wear your time , i am incredibly grateful to you for your answers for the analytics of the processes that are taking place today on the line. fronta, and andrey

viktorovich, here alexander gave us quite clearly what is happening and what are the advantages and what are the disadvantages. how to train information front fighters? come on look. but firstly, if we are talking about specialists in countering an information operation and specialists in conducting active measures on these channels, then, uh, their training should be based on operational training, that is, the training that is given today in special closed military educational institutions, because 80% of modern information operations are, uh, a combination of three types of methods. these are classical methods of operational intelligence work that have not changed over the past 50-67 years there. these are the methods of operational-search and their operational activities and operational-technical methods , and only 15 percent are accounted for by modern

information technologies of influence on consciousness and subconsciousness of the person and management of mass consciousness and behavior and on channels bringing this information impact. here in this respect. uh, a specialist should be first of all an operative, who should not be bloggers. not, uh, some kind of frontman for some non-artist show, uh, conversational genre. he must be, uh, a specialist. uh, fine, knowing operational work, and, accordingly, he must know all the forms and methods of modern, which apply and pay. why are we we are already talking in so many other forms, but communication with the audience with the audience and the community, because now it’s clear to you on this diagram, probably, i think it will be clear how western structures work. here is such a hierarchy andrey by the way, thank you very much for the information provided. that's how uh, everything, seriously. yes, so that no one doubts. and how many special services

are involved in this, how is it all structured? therefore, if we also meet with some kind of manipulative things on the information front. we have to understand who is certainly in charge and how much? people not just journalists , public figures, but also people who were previously associated with journalism or with the media space. yes, andrey, this scheme is interesting because, when all this is built in the form of a certain hierarchical structure, because the place of the ukrainian tsok is shown here, because we see the chain as such uh as a showcase of everything that they spend uh -e operations by disney information psychological operations of various kinds of ideological sabotage. who made the dogs. here they are a diagram, uh, it shows the place of these options and it is clear that those operations that are carried out under the guise of tsems or employees of the pso are not a ukrainian operation. this is not their invention. this is an american operation, because uh, a chain

built by the americans, uh, intelligence officers and partly by the british, who are much inferior to the americans in this. in fact. they are built integrated into the american holding system. uh, special information operations and we see that if the lower level operates, uh, local forces and under the ukrainian flag, which allows the ultimate responsibility to be laid on ukrainian collaborators and neo-nazis, then from a certain level ukrainian officers disappear and american officers and specialists appear, therefore, when we encounter operations that are carried out under the ukrainian flag, these are, most often, not ukrainian operations are american. but this is a serious enemy and it must be treated. that's exactly the same in the most serious way. thank you information front talking today about the information war in which we

are all living today and the manipulation of information is an extremely important topic, please, colleagues, we display our graphics on the screen. here is the address again, back to how much this information is being provided today. we even remember this story with the tragedy in the bucha. here you know me. tell me, do you agree with me or not? why exactly bucha, because russian troops were found not only on the territory of this village in the kiev region, but also for the world community, since for the british, the word bucha is very consonant with the word bucheri. that is the butcher that is , again, it was such a technology that was supposed to penetrate. every home is europeans, or a general inhabitant of the planet, who understands english and know such a special place in the heart of the occupation? why, uh, the incident, the fights and

the operational game that was unfolded around this incident. this is an example of a strategic information operation, there was an incident and then there was its corresponding submission, a with uh, submission at the next guaranteed and quite definite international effect, because the task was to blame the russian federation for committing a crime against humanity, to declare that certain people are war criminals and then raise the issue of where the place of war criminals is, where is the hague tribunal. moreover, the scheme itself repeated the story of yugoslavia with srebridnitsa. here , uh, come up with nothing, while the operation itself was not, of course, resonant, because we did not have time to turn on in time, that is, our opponents are ready for implementation of this scenario, they fired one volley, the second third was turned on late. and so seize the initiative. uh, the information was very difficult, but there was one moment that put us one step away from changing

the situation in our favor. it suddenly turned out that there were witnesses to what was happening, and the witness was the former french paratrooper adrian buquet, uh, who at that time was working as a volunteer from the ukrainian side, he led them with medicines. he was led by them adrenaline e. morphine pain reliever. that's uh, bq himself. uh, when he talks about these events, he says that up to this point he was a typical product of french propaganda that russia is waging a war against ukraine, exterminating the population and poor ukrainians. the poor need to be protected. and it so happened that bekez on his truck drove into the storm at the moment when he drove up to the hangar, where he had to unload and suddenly see such a picture behind the hangar, standing. uh, three trucks from those trucks. uh, mean, uh punishers out

azov battalion who sailed to him pulls out the corpses and lays them out. yes, and it was these people who were killed. it was just the place of the local population. and basically. these were russian supporters. e, who did not have time to take off the white bandages that distinguished them and so they were shot there , so they brought more of them and laid them out. here and uh, for the buguet. it was enormous, of course, stress. he tried to ask questions promised to kill. so he went to france and tried to get on french television on french television. after the first transfers and, therefore, he was promised a criminal case and prosecution. and so, then he defected. e to the russian federation and the ministry of foreign affairs came to us, so beke, uh, gave evidence, he was interrogated by the investigative committee, that is, uh, the interrogation documents bk where he details everything uh, describes this method for the future nuremberg number two and uh, this is of course,

there is nothing stronger than the testimony of a witness, especially the testimony of such a person who himself was a french military paratrooper. he participated in combat operations. that is, he has never been pro-russian, but his conscience did not allow him to join those criminals who staged just this incident. yes , dragon joins our air, become the leader of the entire serbian movement of the patriots of the motherland and diasport dragans. hello e, today we say a big hello and death. thank you very much dragon today we are talking about the information war, he is manipulating public opinion, of course, we cannot help but recall the color revolutions and of course, dear our guest in the studio i recalled related events, at least certain analogies, that cause events in today's ukraine with the same silver coin and events that took place in yugoslavia, and if we are talking about color revolutions, dragon serbia, in fact,

faced this phenomenon. yes, with this phenomenon, which today even in some ways seems ordinary for us. yes , it really turns out that serbia was the first victim of the first information war of the west , which, uh, they were preparing in order to commit a further crime, which uh. well, let's just say that this nato bloc that committed aggression has already finished. for this , he used several at first. and they have such classical standards, that is , informational preparation for war and somewhere some kind of specific provocation that excites the people, the public there, and so on. this is usually a provocation of us falsified, as it was, but in kosovo when they showed supposedly killed albanians there, in fact there were killed serbia, you understand the reason for being responsible there victim in these cases. yes, yes, i would agree with you, yes, please, continue it

turns out. this revolution was organized in our country. that is, the people were dissatisfied, like, and with what is happening. and here we are, literally. in 2000, they already paid for it, and now the same process, that is, but it turns out that the people are dissatisfied. uh , well, to a greater extent, the agent that comes from the west, that is, these values ​​​​that destroy family tradition, culture, and so on, and it turns out that the people come to street and all of a sudden there are leaders, uh, leading these protests. and these are those who are just gena's hand or, let's say, servants. as a matter of fact, people are starting to use this, but this squirrel and this regime of elena. ah, the dissatisfaction of the people put forward demands that no one asked the people at all, that is, the demands have nothing to do with the blood of the people, and they are showing this now, for example, to the president of serbia, pants. here we have our own, they overthrow you, like on the street, or you fulfill, but those conditions

that we set for you, and therefore this is a certain one for you. this is the principle of democracy. what if you or you, that is, you must obey, as if in any case, or you are checked. the composition of the other does not matter. what are the goals of this, yes dragon and , by the way , the president of the republic of belarus alexander lukashenko expressed his point of view about disinformation . remember the jacket near stalingrad when we successfully misinformed the enemy and won this battle. he has to say, the biggest misinformation. this is our circuit. from my point of view, there is no contour of us and cannot be. it's just madness of madness one to five at the front to fight on manpower equipment - this is just madness. no. it is necessary to escalate, it is necessary to wind up

the ukrainians in order to continue and drown us. uh, in this confrontation in this today the essence of the front. we see it, it's right behind our fence. yes dragon please you have the floor, i must seize the moment and say that serbia loves belarus very much and i will tell you that we were forced to carry out sanctions. well, firstly, they look against me, but if, and accordingly, the people are very , very dissatisfied, then these sanctions are under pressure from the west, because belarus and lukashenko are the only person and president who, during our aggression on us, was in serbia and we offered help and so on. that is, i will tell you that respect for him is huge for belarus, too, when i i speak on television, and when i tell you what belarus is, how neat and beautiful it is, the country, how everything is there. eh, cleanly done and so on. people do not believe , you know, this is again a reference to how information war is. that is

, people get the impression that belarus is some kind of wild state, and there people have nothing to eat, nothing to wear, and so on. that is, you understand how much it is necessary to develop these myths, and i tell them that my dear ones are in minsk yes, yes dragons thank you very much olga aleksandrovna well, it's impossible not to agree, firstly, for such warm words about our country. thank you very much indeed, especially regarding our president. well, i want to return to the words of our head of state in the first symphony that you showed, when he said that we need to create a common information space for the countries that are members of the eu yes or in the cis call it what you want the fact is that here you are talking about a frenchman who, uh, kind of told what happened in the bucha, we learned about it from him, but uh, the european society did not understand clearly and still they belong to butch, as they belong to bucha, and this is done on purpose, because uh, the first manipulative things that

descend on the level of human consciousness are, of course, u members of the european union, they need their society to work properly for a start, they need to create an atmosphere there and they need perception. therefore , we need a single information space so that you and i know how our neighbors actually live. here i want to give an example of our company interstate radio company world. this is the only unique media today that makes it possible to find out what lives. uh, any cis country, but that's not enough. it is necessary to deepen and expand one side of its information space, especially. if we are talking about belarus, it will not close, no matter how hard we try. we are the balcony where information flows blow at us from all sides. we cannot close . even if we clean everything up and close everything, we will still be under the influence of information from all sides. but, when we unite with you, when we are with you, with you by force. this means that we can already say that we can create our own e, information dissemination technology and disseminate information

that will really allow us to create our state and develop our society, which is now shaping and resisting in this way. here, with that fake and misinformation that comes from the world that is critical of us. yes, but andrey. do you agree that there is still a problem today. yes, if we're talking about parties to the conflict ar- in the russian federation, only in the speed of decision-making is still a bureaucratic machine. it persists even if in ukraine it is the creation of fakes of some specific waves that excite the youth. in general, society. this happens at lightning speed and no one even conducts fact-checking. that is here. unfortunately, in some situations. we see that this dynamism is not enough. this is true. they were mobile, and at the same time, uh, polyethynamic. it's harder for them to hit the moving moving the target is harder to hit. this is clearly seen in sports on the example of boxing fights, the problem is really the speed of decision-making, it is colossal and

today in russia in the russian federation it has not been resolved in any way, because any action even elementary requires, uh, 10-15-20 approvals and decisions, and in while in modern information operations and wars it is necessary to act instantly. here, if e unexpectedly composes us. what should also not be an information attack of the enemy , it is necessary to respond to it within the first hour, and preferably within the first 30-40 minutes, otherwise the situation will get out of control, but, uh, respectively, our opponents. uh, this reaction is not because they are smarter, or better prepared. we still have better personnel, but, uh, they have the right, uh, to make decisions without approval within a certain range. that is, each commander has the right to make decisions independently within the framework. this is the first and second, they have the right to make a mistake, what is important? this is a purely american thing, but, because, uh, there are american specialists, who are responsible for the operation. he has the right to make a certain number

of mistakes. now, if he is wrong for 3-4 months or six months. that's when the question arises of taking it off and replacing it with someone, but during this time. uh, while the credit of trust is valid. he may be wrong. as many as you like, but he must win this information operation. any elementary mistake a-a can cost the career of the person who made this mistake, but is not mistaken. only those who do not take risks, and in in this regard , a paradoxical situation is created when, uh, a specialist , a leader or an official is sitting there, and he thinks about what to do, how to act. what if it turns out to be wrong, and he understands that if he simply does nothing, but takes a wait-and-see position , or maybe his reprimand rolls him, a reprimand is not a sentence, you can live with it, but if he is up to his own fear and the risk will take retaliatory action, and they will prove wrong it will cost him his career. i absolutely agree with you that the speed of e is not missing from one side from the other side.

you rightly said, there is a right to make a mistake, but why the right to make a mistake, the more the better , the more they will believe it, yes, therefore, and no matter how much they lie, no matter what they tell them, everything is still there confused, really, better or something else, why do we sometimes have no right to make a mistake and why can there be delayed decisions? because the error can convey false information, or we can make a mistake somewhere, and the point is not that the superiors will not forgive us, officials or authorities there will not forgive us for this people because they will understand that we are also not that particular source of information that always tells only the truth and gives verified information, so you know this is such a reputational risk, for example, for me as for, uh, a source of information . let me better not be an hour late for seconds, but i will teach you that only my information, the most accurate, the most correct, and it really does not harm absolutely agree with you. i myself say this all the time, but there is a rule that the right decision, made with delay or not in time the right decision will no longer be in this

respect. we often encounter fakes. from such a situation, when yours flies by and it begins to spread in a viral way to the big audience. it captures minds. he gets people emotional. here is his against. perhaps the decision is not with no opposition, because the decision has not been made. and so, when time passes and finally, an official appears and issues an absolutely correct summary and makes a correct statement, where everything is verified up to last detail. this information is no longer of interest to anyone, because the fake has done its job and in this respect, delay here is like death in its time, roman commanders. ah, legion commanders. they had the so-called fighting bones when they did not know how to act. so they threw the bones and followed and acted as they show. this fortune-telling never waited for the weather by the sea, and when they did not take

a passive position, because a passive position leads, uh, guaranteed defeat, but active actions. even the wrong ones are far away not always. thank you very much, dear guests. we are forced to complete our program dmitry but still there is a magnificent phrase about me it's not difficult to deceive me. i myself am fashionable. yes , even a quote like this, how do you think we are talking today about speed about the effectiveness of efficiency. is it possible today to reach out to the ukrainian society. give him true information in this crazy flow of false and how to prepare ourselves for not becoming, but these objects of fake manipulation. here first of all you need to, if you observe some kind of emotional information, then still accustom yourself to the fact that you need to pause, at least at 5-8 hours there, and so on

, in order for the situation to become more or less understandable and resolved, but in relation to the direction in which to develop, it is obvious here that it is necessary to develop our sources and channels for delivering information in order to actually be able to do this on the internet and the benefit of modern technology allows this, because if neutral platforms such as telegram and they must be used, especially in order to apply information to those citizens of ukraine who live. unfortunately, the territories occupied by nato are starting now. well, let 's conclude our program. the final word of today's conversation is given to you? well , after all, the power is in pravda; we are completing our program with the same question with which we started this unambiguously. only here are your guests, they say, that's it, it's very competently beautiful and so on, but they say, here, honestly there is no true information in the west, therefore, it seems to me that they are fighting with honor, but

against promotions, that is, they are consciously formed in the incubation that i need, so it seems to me that she is honest with them. well then there is this bead-blue toss. excuse me. thank you all very much, dear colleagues, we put an end to this discussion. i would like to say the following, firstly, that we will not finish our conversation on this topic for a long time, because we will discuss any truly important political topic on television in our time inevitably means participating in the information war. and secondly, i would like to note that, as in the well-known dichotomy, scouts are spies for each other with our opponents. we will always be, respectively , information workers for ourselves, and propagandists for them , and vice versa. and, of course, a quote from beloved pelevin for dessert, so the end of the world , which has been talked about for so long, christians , which inevitably leads to auresis consciousness

will be absolutely safe in every sense, because disappears, the one who is in danger could threaten. the end of the world will be just a telecast and it's the companions that fill us all with inexpressible bliss. thank you. well, now i am authorized to declare. the information war of all against all is a normal state for the post-truth era. we follow the sports life of our country, the international federation for various sports continues to make a decision on the admission of belarusian and russian athletes to competitions in anticipation and judokas. the participation of belarusian athletes at the summer games in paris remains the main goal, find out how new heights are reached 17 years

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