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tv channel . this is a program for those who want to better understand what is happening and understand how these processes , events, people will affect the life of everyone and the life of the country, and the main events of world politics this week. we'll tell you straight now the president of the republic of belarus alexander lukashenko took part in the plenary meeting of the 2nd eurasian economic forum held in moscow. the event was also attended by the leaders of russia , kazakhstan, kyrgyzstan, and a member of the armenian government
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, alexander lukashenko, in his speech, emphasized the need to create an integrated information system within the eurasian economic community that would ensure an adequate level of information security and simplify the exchange of information between authorities member countries of the eaeu, another priority vector. union, the improvement of transport infrastructure and the development of efficient logistics in connection with the turn of our export flows to the southeast, it is very important to jointly open a window to the countries of the named region. this is a bottomless market. for our goods. our response to the sanctions pressure is the intensification of interaction between the sco brix and the axes in concluding new trade agreements and this constructive mutually beneficial cooperation with everyone. who is ready to be friends and work with us. 19:21 may in japanese
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the city of hiroshima hosted a summit of the countries of the so-called seven, the main organization of the collective west, the event was expectedly visited by ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky, which made the fight against russia a key theme of the event, western leaders did not skimp on threats against moscow and words of support for the kiev regime, however, about a big fly in the ointment in a barrel of honey became, which came exactly during the summit, the news about the capture of the city of bakhmut in the donbas by russian troops. the battle for which lasted many months and cost the lives of tens of thousands of fighters on both sides, however, the leaders of the g7 tried to demonstrate that, determined to continue to achieve the defeat of russia, while zelensky’s hope to achieve, as well as the leaders of india and brazil, who arrived at keroshima , the rejection of the policy of neutrality favorable to moscow dissipated like fog over fujimama their fight with
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russia the west remains without allies. the information front of the new cold war , the topic of our today's program in the famous soviet film about military intelligence officers, there is such a dialogue between the actors playing german intelligence officers aver but this is childish babble primitive, who would believe in such high-quality disinformation should be primitive, like a drawing of a savage. everyone believed and the latest events related to the ongoing conflict in ukraine prove that the victim of propaganda misinformation is still millions . although its methods are still primitive, but with a mask for the propaganda machine , the blood of the information war growing in our region is used speech of today's program to understand this interesting topic. i will be assisted by olga alexandrovna shpilevskaya, director of the representative office of the international television and radio broadcasting company world in belarus , chairman of the belarusian union of women.
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hello. andrey viktorovich manula is with us today dr. poli of these sciences, professor of moscow state university named after alla lomonosov, member of the scientific council under the security council of the russian federation hello, i am glad to welcome you to our studio dmitry vasilets joins our skype program head of a banned ukrainian political party, power. hello dmitry, it is incredibly grateful that you with us today? well, let's start our program and, of course, olga alexandrovna's questions will come true. still in the truth there is certainly strength in the truth there was and will be and uh, this is probably the only thing that will save the world. it's true andrei viktorovich of course it's true, this is the most terrible weapon, and crushing all obstacles, but the truth must be able to convey. dmitry what do you think the strength is still in the truth, of course, if this were not so, then the american corporations would not block the youtube channels of those
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leaders, the opinions of opposition politicians and mass media. we see that here the elite zura is back. and this is what they are burning for on the right. tell me, dmitry , what do you think is the media power of the zelensky regime of his team, in particular, the monstrous lie, or and in the speed of decision-making , initiative, why? how often today one hears that the russian media machine is weak, if we talk about victories on the information front, that is, what else to work on, what is the strength of the ukrainian media? here for no one the secret is that the anglo-saxons, namely they are now behind all the processes that are now in ukraine unfortunately, there are negative ones, it is worth noting here that they have always aimed at e, namely fear, that is, they are always in control, they
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are always used to fear they have such colonial, that's the policy of the colonial approach, and so here we see that the stake of the nato countries. they rule within the country. they did it on the body. but already when serious hostilities began, which when the russian federation was already turned off in e, a full-fledged one. here military operation by senatorial countries. and now there is a confrontation, here we see that the level of repression, it has intensified many times over precisely against the ukrainian people olga alexandrovna i think that all of us present here are at the forefront of the information front. and we understand what difficulties you have to face today with the abundance of fakes and ways to manipulate public consciousness, in your opinion. what methods of struggle can the belarusian media community use today in order to
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to secure society, well, before the belarusian medical community, i’ll answer the question why and to the ukrainian media, how the propaganda tool works effectively. it seems to me, but it is important where our grains fall, and the soil, i mean, the consciousness of the ukrainian people was prepared for these particular grains to fall into this soil. that is, this is not a story that they began to work differently and the people followed them. yes, this story of preparing the long-term consciousness of ukrainians for what they perceive today and how they perceive it. as for the work of the belarusian media space. after all, we are also after the twentieth year, but i will say why we won the information battle then at that moment, not even because we were ready for it. and because the consciousness of our belarusians was not ready for such a large perception of fake lies that were born, and from the outside , we still had a large part of the population, but believed the state media . we have public funds
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mass media have not lost the confidence of the population and plus the state media in belarus remain the main media. and we understand that the one who owns the media sets the rhetoric. yes, and how, roughly speaking, he orders music , so the state never acts against its people. it acts on the association, therefore, we, and as a mass media, now work. it's just that our main task is to tell the truth, but this truth is on time for us. eh, although he was also like that the moment when you know, there is such a lot of officials. it may be that we will not say something. we will talk about this later today, and we managed to break it in this regard. that is, we are those uh, that rumor is that source of information that is the most recent. you see, it’s only difficult for a layman to understand with us, where is the truth, because everyone who shares information claims that the truth is exclusively his andrey yuryevich i want to thank you for the fact that for the preparation in the program we used
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the materials that you have been for many years worked. here i would like us to display the schedule of the main task of the information war. here is to break the enemy's will to resist, to subdue his consciousness of his will. divide polarize society tear it into many shreds and fragments make these fragments sincerely hate each other. and, frankly, it turned out quite effectively in the same ukraine on the territory of ukraine yes, all these schemes that are used in modern information wars of information operations. they are extremely simple. uh, also, like very simple. uh, the basic basic american scheme, and the conduct of information operations, which underlies all operations carried out by a on the channel and open telecommunication networks by american intelligence, since the panama dossier since 2016, it is simple and therefore effective. here it is, as well as this algorithm,
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because, uh, there is nothing to break there. and in this regard, uh, it is important to understand that these are the opponents, e armed e, very well with technologies e simple, but very effective, but they can only outplay first, the state. that's first and foremost a special service, because this is their field. that is, by themselves, ordinary citizens will not be able to protect themselves. how much, even if, uh, to talk about the need to be critical of the information that is supplied from various sources, check the fact-checking, but this still does not save, because the information beams that are used in modern information warfare operations. they affect the emotional sphere of a person and their task is to make emotional lynx started abruptly and emotionally suppressed the rational. by the way, the place of fakes in the information war
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is also a wonderful graphic, which is worth paying attention to, please, that's what andrey viktorovich is talking about absolutely right. the main thing is to evoke emotions. and, of course, already when society is so captured by emotions, it is very easy to carry information that is beneficial to certain groups. and dmitry, you are still with us. tell me please, but what do you think at the moment? who makes key decisions in the information war, which is being waged primarily in ukraine, as far as the power in ukraine is independent today, as far as it is possible that it is supervised by other special services. and in general, how do you feel about and what do you invest in this concept as information hygiene. perhaps she is with a simple ukrainian today. the fact is that information hygiene is impossible in the modern world , like belarus. as in russia, such in ukraine
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, of course, if we take from the point of view of the independence of the zelensky regime, then, in principle, it is generally pointless to say we we see, now it’s just the wreckage of the ukrainian state, on which the zelensky regime was set up with various right-wing wrong polytechnologies and so on. and uh, now we see that absolutely all the key processes. unfortunately, they are controlled from across the ocean. and we see this, yes, almost every day, regarding very important issues in the country's information security , and so on. that is here. unfortunately. it must be admitted that now the enemy is ten times stronger, because information corporations such as the corner such as microsoft, uh, it's not belarusian, not russian, and not ukrainian, especially companies. and now, in fact, they control about half of the information flow. and
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unfortunately, if you take the classic media, the state media, according to the latest statistics - it's about 50 bucks, 60%. 40 dash 50% is already the internet. and here already we see that the state is somehow impossible. this is how to block enemy resources. and here we observe something that needs to be built here great chinese file pens, which can still provide relative safety in terms of. here is the question. here is the dispersal of panic hysteria. uh, either you still need to go some other way tech giants, they now dominate the internet. that to resist, well , to oppose something to these corporations. unfortunately, we see that we are not yet able to. we see that russia is torn apart in this regard, there is a debatable issue for yandex. you have touched. and how
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then to fight, if today there is media platforms that are certainly created by western society? yes, again, we are talking about youtube , on which we also broadcast and when we have to break these algorithms in order to find an opportunity to convey this information our truthful information to the viewer, or we understand that there is instagram telegram right there and today it is extremely difficult to use everything leverage provided again by the western intelligence services, because again, if they hear unwanted information, they are ready to destroy any person, regardless of its coverage. but how to fight if the same, for example, in russia, instagram was closed. people still use it, what needs to be done to create competitive ones, i don’t agree with the fact that you don’t need to fight on someone else’s site. this site exists. we allowed it to be created. we groomed her. cherished, right? we've
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come there. we brought all of our people there. e fellow citizens, we are open to this site and just leave these sites. for example, i need to fight the enemy to the last and on these sites, including everything you need to do possible options. in any case, one should not think that all internet users are people who consume only one type of information. today, thank god, many understand that when you read some information, you need to look at more sources, and the internet allows you to check or make sure something. believe me, the one who seeks will always find, and the same residents of the european union with whom, for example, come to communicate with me, find ways how russians enter instagram and they are in order to read the same russian media or see them, if we remove them from there, then we will simply completely surrender on this site. you can't do it. yes? certainly necessary. eh, technologically catch up too. unfortunately, while catching up, yes, and somewhere in some moments and overtaking and trying to look for some new ways of communication, but we have one weapon that we
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began to use after the twentieth year , it’s definitely good, forgotten grandfather’s weapon. for that matter, yes, the mosin rifle is there and i understand very well in these yes, but this is an old weapon , it's a face-to-face conversation. in our country, after the twentieth year, all civil servants, all officials , got up and went to collectives. you smile skeptically. i will tell you that there were a lot of skeptics when we started this process. now these skeptics have become much less i will explain why, because when you come, also the youth audience, which really sits on social networks, really, they watch bt or any other state television will forgive me bt or stv, too, yes, and will not see us from you don't will see our program. but when i come to them, they will see me and even if at the beginning they are skeptical of me, i do everything in order to wake up this audience, and at least a grain of doubt. i am in this audience, and with some kind of this moment, which they are introduced into them via the internet, they will understand in advance that there is an alternative. plus, it's
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face-to-face communication. i always tell you, you never know who brings you information on the other side, you don’t see this person. and you see me, you see my eyes. you understand, i’m lying, i’m telling you or i’m still telling you the truth, learn if you agree yes, please, yes, i absolutely agree with my esteemed colleague. e is that e is a tactic of prohibitions and an attempt to cut off. uh, those channels and those western platforms that exist and operate today. this is a dead end road. this is the path of a not very well developed official, for whom if a problem arises, it is better for him to remove this problem somewhere. uh, it’s better to close and ban it in a far place, so that it doesn’t an eyesore, but an operational point of view completely different. that's how operational staff is. yeah look at this stuff. well , firstly, if you block, all sites are western, where will you work? uh, if you don't have channels that you cut yourself or had them cut off for you.
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and where exactly will you carry out operational combinations, and only active measures and operational combinations, including using the enemy’s infrastructure, if you can’t use your own or it is blocked, uh, only operational uh active measures can lead to the result of a particular therefore. uh, no matter how many platforms and resources our, uh, opponents have, only one thing depends on whether it will be their tools or we will make them our resource platforms, in general they say, uh, the rules of e stating that you need to use the infrastructure of the enemy. what's the matter so that he himself gave it to the dark, of course, without suspecting this, gave us an order and considered at the same time that he was doing everything. this is the only correct solution for him. but this is the main basic rule of modern information operations and one more thing about uh, fakes.
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uh, uh, uh, the ones we were just talking about mean fakes, uh, lately it's been the hit of the season here's how they appeared in 1916 when uh disinformation, uh during uh presidential campaigns in the united states when trump was elected for his first term, he was the only one who connected with viral distribution technologies, so they do not converge on tv screens and, uh, all the time, uh, they sound fake fakes in the environment of self-propagated information. now we have seen scheme. ha, where is our screen painted, so that each of our viewers is there, in fact, in order to show, uh, the role and place of fakes in the modern information war. this diagram is done. here there is an ideology, which is a system or a set of ideas, there is propaganda, which is good and not good propaganda - this is a tool. uh, the promotion and dissemination of these ideas, ah, but at the same time, propaganda is divided into white gray black, depending on the degree of purity or dirt. e in the technologies that are there and the tricks,
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which are used and we see that here they are , uh, so, uh, divisible by three. and pay attention. e, where is fakes, and fakes are located is a small square in the lower right corner, and on a fake, which is a very highly specialized tool for information and psychological influence, and with the help of which people cannot be controlled. you can only create a stir around a real rainy information floor. this is so fake accounts for less than 1% of the total volume of information warfare. and if everything specialists, of which i am so many, who deal with the information war, all rush to expose the fakes, and the ukrainian side, for example, specifically makes sure that the fakes are made crookedly obliquely, so that it is easy to see the inconsistencies, expose them and then run to the sleeve to say, i won today 250 fakes. of these, 249 are unmanned. and if all the experts are closed on these fakes that they throw up. this means that all
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other fronts, the information war , remain unprotected. and just there a blow is struck, but it still succeeds. yes, by the way, now we will find out what it is like to create this informational ghetto, which we are seeing today in ukraine, uh, dear friends. let's take a look at our reference. what is a cixor, we understand together shevtsov enter information and psychological special operations ukrainian unit of the armed forces of ukraine, which deals with cyber attacks, was founded in 2004, but it was real activity launched after the euro maidanov in 2014, the beginning of an open confrontation with russia fathers include departments analytical print propaganda telecommunications technology responsible for phones terrorism computer technology and special operations main task of demoralization of society and enemy soldiers through the internet and other
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communication channels. now the activities of the epso are associated with the spread of disinformation in order to demoralize russian citizens and provoke. mass protests are believed that there are several figures on the territory of ukraine, each of which has its own curators from the united states uk canada and possibly other countries. and by the way, it all works quite effectively. and now the ukrainian society is amazing. well, i don’t want to offend and offend anyone, but i’m gradually turning into a zombie who doesn’t want to hear other information and absolutely believes that the ukrainian television called the zombie man is broadcasting a single tv channel dmitry . i think you even agree with me on this. here we have to disagree with a number of parameters. i'm listening, you understand the guests in the studio, that after all, they clearly did not come across, uh, american corporations in reality, because if we just analyze
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conditionally 50%, uh, of the belarusian society. they consume information from the internet, which is actually dominated by all-american corporations. for example, in practice, i came across with someone that any youtube channel on which i promise, it is blocked literally within a week, secondly, and collapses are faster correctly in a few. and it turns out any speaker who speaks on the internet? the truth that there really is no war between ukraine and russia now, there is a nato war with the russian federation on the territory of ukraine and the people of ukraine are hostages. unfortunately, these international terrorists who have settled in london and washington, and any point of view that is truthful, they simply block it objectively, but
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the opposite is any point of view that is filled with lies and complete nonsense. it exists and it works. if he claims that in such a confrontation it is necessary to conduct information there are special operations. there on youtube and so on, it would be good to do it in english on their territory, but in no case in russian, or in belarusian or in ukraine, because it turns out that these are people who think that they say let's e sites that just liquidate. a sound point of view is an adequate point of view. let 's encourage them and somehow we will conduct information special operations there. i just want to explain to you how your information operations will end any information resources that you register. they will actually end within a week of two and therefore there is no
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alternative. how to protect these aggressive means, full of brad and fakes . here is the social internet, uh , american, and yet to develop our own and, of course, control it so that an objective point of view is not deleted anywhere. i 'm not talking about what is needed there, it removes the opponent's point of view, please do not delete it. come on, here dmitry, i can’t say that we don’t collide. we are like no one vstalkivalis, uh, with american corporations. they worked on our territory, and we tried like no one else, and somewhere even intuitively just resist them. oh, olga alexandrovna i'm sorry, alexander malkevich, the general director of the tv channel, st. petersburg, is in touch with us right now. first deputy chairman of the commission of the public chamber of russia on the development of the information community of the media and mass communications. why did you interrupt our guest? because now mr.
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malkevich is on the front line, my first question is, as far as informational operations. there , the regimes of the zelensky west really influence the morale of the fighters, because therefore there are different opinions about the matter, and how it was perceived at the front. the same operation of the main intelligence directorate of the ministry of defense of ukraine in the belgorod region. hello, well greetings to all of uh. now i am in the zaporozhye region , but you know, first of all, these information operations are not directed against the fighters against the people who live in kherson in zaporizhzhya since those belgorod , first of all, too well, the peaceful dpr is very invests serious efforts and funds in dispersing these signals, and on social networks. uh, all over our country. e in order to cause panic to cause destabilization, and
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taking into account the fact that e military 6 official authorities are rather slow in their reactions, otherwise they succeed with the enemy. i mean, develop information offensive information is true. uh, we need to react much faster and more clearly and distinctly to those beams and fakes that come from the enemy. how do you think how to build effective strategy of information work with the peaceful ukrainian population? because a year ago it was clear that the corresponding work failed? has anything changed since then? well , look, if we are talking about the civilian population, which is located on the other side, but the lines of combat contact. eh, then we produce quite a lot of correct content, it does not reach, because people are forbidden there, and to use
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any russian information channels, including russian telegram channels, and therefore there the fascist authorities in kiev are consistently in tightening nuts. it’s just forbidden there, it’s practically forbidden to think, but in russian not to mention the fact that you speak like that in russian and we see a huge number of different videos, and in which they practically settle scores with people who update the non-state movement what is called why we are we are doing everything right, but in the frontline, for example, they are aiming at mortars. according to our tv towers , so that there is no russian radio and tv signal in the prefant band, there are questions to the ministry of defense why are we not doing the same, and so to speak, that in the strip that is located under the other side of the border, and therefore
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yes, their operations in this regard are effective, that is, on our side, really. but it's so fun to pack it in a perky way, and beautifully creative as they are, uh, we are for different reasons. well, not ready, or something, that is, we have bright charismatics, there are military correspondents. we really have, uh, but they have technology platforms. so you talked about the sites that they control, and well, and they take, of course, the number by the number. well, including the ability of these western marketing technologies. this is all is, therefore struggle. well, of course, not simple . not to mention the fact that the leaders of public opinion are also being hunted on their part. this is also true. thank you alexander , i will not wear your time, i am incredibly grateful to you for your answers for the analytics of the processes that are taking place today on
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the line. fronta, and andrey viktorovich, here alexander gave us quite clearly what is happening and what are the advantages and what are the disadvantages. how to train information front fighters, in your opinion? but firstly, if we are talking about specialists in countering the information operation and specialists in conducting active measures on these channels, then , uh, their training should be based on operational training, that is, the training that is given today in special closed military educational institutions, because e and modern information operations are 80 % is, uh, a combination of three kinds of methods. these are classical methods of operational intelligence work that have not changed over the past 50-670 years there. these are methods of operational-search and their operational activities and operational-technical methods
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and only 15 percent are accounted for by modern information technologies of influencing the consciousness and subconsciousness of a person and managing the mass consciousness and behavior and on channels to bring this information impact. here in this respect. uh, the specialist should be first of all the operatives. it must not be bloggers. not, uh, some kind of frontman for some non-artist show, uh, conversational genre. he must be, uh, a specialist. uh , fine, knowledgeable operational work, eh, accordingly, he must know all the forms and modern methods that apply and pay. why are we already talking about so many other forms of communication with the audience with the audience and the community, because now it’s clear to you on this diagram, probably, i think it will be clear how western structures work. here is such a hierarchy andrey by the way, thank you very much for the information provided. that's how uh, everything, seriously. yes, so that no one doubts. and
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how many special services are involved in this, how is it all structured? therefore, if we also meet with some kind of manipulative things on the information front. we need to understand who is unconditionally in charge of this and how much? people are not just journalists, public figures, but also people who were previously associated with journalism or with the data media space. this diagram is interesting because, when all this is built in the form of a certain hierarchical structure, the place of ukrainian dogs is shown here, because we see chicks as such uh as a showcase of everything that they carry out uh operations by dissit information psychological operations of various kinds of ideological sabotage. who made the dogs. here they are, the scheme, it shows the place of these options and it is clear that those operations that, under the guise of a cemso or employees of the chain , will accompany this is not a ukrainian operation. this is not
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their invention. this is an american operation, because it is the intelligence officers built by the americans and partly by the british, who are much inferior to the americans in this. actually. they are built integrated into the american holding system. uh special information operations and we see that if at the lower level there are, uh, local forces and under the ukrainian flag, which allows the ultimate responsibility to ukrainian collaborators and neo-nazis , uh, to assign then from a certain level ukrainian officers disappear and american officers and specialists appear, so when we come across operations that are carried out under the ukrainian flag - it's uh, most often not ukrainian operations - it's american. but this is a serious adversary and he must be treated. that's exactly the same in the most serious way. thank you information front today we are talking about
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the information war, in which we all live today. manipulation of information is an extremely important topic, please, colleagues, we are displaying our graphics on the screen. here again , we return to the extent to which this information is presented today. we even remember this story with the tragedy in the bucha. here you know me. tell me, do you agree with me or not? why exactly bucha, because russian troops were found not only on the territory this village in the kiev region, but as for the world community, as for the british, the word bucha is very consonant with the word bucheri. that is the butcher that is, again , it was such a technology that was supposed to penetrate. every home is europeans, or a general inhabitant of the planet, who understands english and know such a special place in the heart of
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the occupation? why, uh, the bocce incident and the operational game that was deployed around this incident. this is an example of a strategic information operation there was an incident and then there was its corresponding filing, a s uh, filing with the next guaranteed and most definitely international effect, because the task was to accuse the russian federation of committing a crime against humanity, to declare that certain people are war criminals and then raise the issue of what the place of war criminals is, where the hague tribunal. moreover, the scheme itself repeated the story of yugoslavia's silver box , so they didn’t come up with anything, while the operation itself was not, of course, resonant, because we did not have time to turn on in time, that is our opponents are ready to implement this scenario, then one volley, the second third was turned on late. and so seize the initiative. uh, the information was very difficult, but there was one moment that
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put us on the verge of turning the situation in our favor. it suddenly turned out that there were witnesses to what was happening in study a and the witness was the former french paratrooper adrian buquet, uh, who at that time was working as a volunteer from the ukrainian side, he led them with medicines. he was led by them adrenaline e. morphine painkiller. here is uh beke himself. uh, when he talks about these events, he says that up to this point he was an atypical product of french propaganda that russia is waging a war against ukraine, exterminating the population and poor ukrainians. the poor need to be protected. and it so happened that bekez on his truck drove into the storm at the moment when he drove up to the hangar, where he had to unload and suddenly see such a picture standing behind the hangar. uh, three trucks from those trucks. uh, mean, uh punishers out
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battalion of azov and arrived to him pulls out the ruble and lays them out. yes, yes, here, moreover, these were the people who were killed. it was just the place of the local population. and basically. these were russian supporters. e, who did not have time to take off the white bandages that distinguished them and so they were shot there , so they brought more of them and laid them out. here and uh, for the buguet. it was enormous, of course, stress. he tried to ask questions promised to kill. so he went to france, tried to get on french television on french television. after the very first transfer, they promised him a criminal case and prosecution. and so, then he defected. e to the russian federation and the ministry of foreign affairs came to us, which means beke e testified. and so he interrogated the investigative committee, that is, uh, the documents of the interrogation of bk where he is in detail everything uh, describes this method for the future nuremberg number two and uh, of course, u
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there is nothing stronger than testimony, especially the testimony of such a person who himself was a french military man paratrooper. he participated in military operations. that is, he has never been pro-russian, but his conscience did not allow him to join those criminals who staged just this incident. yes , when we join the air dragon stranovich leader of the serbian movement of the patriots of the motherland and diasporas dragan. hello today we say a big hello and death. thank you very much dragon today we are talking about the information war, he is manipulating public opinion, of course, we cannot help but remember and here are the colored revolutions and of course, dear our guest in the studio, he recalled related events, at least certain analogies that cause events in today's ukraine with the same silver coin and the events that
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took place in yugoslavia, and after all, if we are talking about the color revolutions of dragon serbia, in fact and experienced this phenomenon. yes, with this phenomenon, which today even in some ways seems ordinary for us. yes , it really turns out that serbia was the first victim of the first information war of the west, which, uh, they were preparing for in order to commit a further crime, which, uh. well, let's just say that this nato bloc that committed aggression has already finished. for this, he used several at first. and they have such classical standards, that is, informational preparation for war, and somewhere some kind of specific provocation that excites the people, the public there, and so on. usually this is a provocation, it is falsified, as it was, but in kosovo when they showed the killed there, supposedly albanians, in fact, serbia was killed you understand, this was already a reason for the victim to be responsible there in
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the case, yes, yes, i would agree with you, yes, please continue, and now it turns out. here, uh, we organized this revolution, that is, the people were dissatisfied, like, and with what was happening. and here we are, literally. the same process, we already paid for it in 2000 and now we are going through the same process, that is, but it turns out that the people are dissatisfied. uh, well, to a greater extent , those agents who come from the west, that is , these values ​​​​that destroy the family tradition, culture and so on and it turns out people come on the street and suddenly there are leaders, and who are at the head of these protests. and these are those that are just a given hand or, let's say, syllables. as a matter of fact, this one, but this squirrel and this regime and they begin to use the people. ah, the dissatisfaction of the people is represented by demands that no one asked the people at all, that is , the demands have nothing to do with the people, and they show this now, for example, to the president serbia pants. here we
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have our own, we overthrow you, such as on the street or you fulfill it, but those conditions that we set for you, and therefore this is the main thing in them, this is the principle of democracy. what if you or you, that is, you must obey, as if in any case, or you are checked. the composition of the other does not matter. what are the goals of this , yes dragon and, by the way, president of the republic of belarus alexander lukashenko expressed his point of view about disinformation let's hear a direct speech a lot now they say counter-offensive counter-offensive and so on but in any battle, disinformation is very dangerous. remember the course of the battle of stalingrad when we successfully misinformed the enemy and won this battle. he has to say, the biggest misinformation. this is the counter we have. from my point of view, there is no counter-us and cannot be. it's just madness of madness one to five at the front to fight on equipment and
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manpower - this is just madness. no. it is necessary to escalate, it is necessary to wind up the ukrainians in order to continue and drown us. uh, in this confrontation in this today is the essence of front. we see it, it's right behind our fence. yes dragon, please give you the floor, i should take a moment and say that serbia loves belarus very much and i will tell you that we were forced to carry out sanctions. well, firstly, we waged them against ourselves, but if, and accordingly, the people are very , very dissatisfied, then these sanctions are under pressure from the west because belarus and lukashenka are the only person and president who was in serbia during our aggression on us and offered us help and so on. that is, i will tell you that respect to him a huge belarus, too, when i speak on television, and when i tell what belarus is, how neat and beautiful it is, the country, how everything is there. eh, cleanly done and so on. people do not believe
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you understand, this is again, a reference to how much information war. that is , people get the impression that belarus is some kind of wild state, and there people have nothing to eat, nothing to wear, and so on. that is, you understand, how much it is necessary to break these myths, and i tell them that my dear ones in minsk military of belarus to live yes, yes dragan thanks. in a huge olga alexandrovna well, it's impossible not to agree, firstly, for such warm words about our country. thanks a lot. really. especially with regard to our president, eh, but i want to go back. hmm, to the words of our head of state in the first symphony that you showed, when he spoke about the fact that we need to create a common information space of the countries that are members of the eu yes or in the cis name it like want the fact is that you are talking about a frenchman who would have told what happened in the bucha, we learned about it from him, but in the processed one, but the european society did not clearly recognize and still they belong to the bucha, as they belong to the bucha, and this is done on purpose, because
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, uh, the first manipulative things that descend to the level of human consciousness. these are, of course, the members of the european union, they need their society to work properly for a start. they need to create the right atmosphere there and they need perception. therefore, we need a single information space in order to you and i knew how the neighbors live, actually. here i want to give an example. the interstate radio company world is the only unique mass media today that makes it possible to find out what lives. uh, any cis country, but that's not enough. it is necessary to deepen and expand one country's own information space, especially. if we are talking about belarus, it will not close, no matter how hard we try. we are the balcony where information flows blow at us from all sides. we can't close even if we clean everything and everything close, we will still be, but be under the influence of information from all sides. but, when we unite with you, when we are a force with you, so we can already say that we can create our own.
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uh, the technology of disseminating information and disseminating information that will really allow us to build our state and develop our society, which is now being formed and resisted in this way. here is a fake from the information that comes from the world that is critical to us. yes, and here andrey do you agree that the problem today, if we talk to them about the side of the conflict ar- in the russian federation, is solely in the speed of decision-making anyway , this is a bureaucratic machine. it persists even if in ukraine it is the creation of fakes of some specific waves that excite the youth. in general, society. this happens at lightning speed and no one even conducts fact-checking. that is here. unfortunately, in some situations. we see that this dynamism is not enough. this is true. they were mobile, and at the same time, e polyeti were outlined. it is more difficult for them to hit a moving moving target, it is generally more difficult to hit a target.
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this is good, it can also be seen in sports using the example of boxing fights, the problem is really the speed of decision-making, it is colossal and today in russia in the russian federation it has not been resolved in any way, because any action, even elementary, requires 10-15-20 approvals and decisions, and while in modern information operations and warriors it acts on instantly. now, if e suddenly takes us by surprise, which also should not be. an enemy information attack must be responded to within the first hour, and preferably within the first 30-40 minutes, otherwise the situation will get out of control. but, uh, respectively, our opponents. uh, this reaction is not because they are smarter, or better prepared. we still have better personnel, but, uh, they have the right, uh, to make decisions without coordination within a certain range. that is, each commander has the right to make decisions independently within the framework. this is the first and second, they have the right to make a mistake, that important? this is a purely american thing, but, because there is an american specialist who is responsible for carrying out the operation. he
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has the right to make a certain number of mistakes. now, if he is wrong for 3-4 months or six months. that's when the question arises of taking it off and replacing it with someone, but during this time. uh, while the credit of trust is valid. he may be wrong. as much as you like, but he must win this information operation, but our any elementary mistake, a can cost a career to the person who made this mistake, and not mistaken, only those who do not take risks, and in this regard , a paradoxical situation is created when, uh, a specialist is a manager or an official there, and he thinks about what to do, how to act . what if it turns out to be wrong, and he understands that if he simply does nothing, but takes a wait-and-see position , or maybe his reprimand rolls him, a reprimand is not a sentence, you can live with it, but if he is up to his own fear and the risk will take retaliatory actions, and they will be wrong it will cost him his career. i absolutely agree with you that speed is not
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enough on the one hand, on the other. you rightly said, there is a right to make a mistake, but why is there a right to make a mistake, the more lies , the more they will believe it, yes, therefore , no matter how much they lie, no matter what they tell them, everything is still confused there. true loshali something else. why do we sometimes have no right to make a mistake, and why it may be that the decision is postponed because it is our mistake. maybe e convey false information, or we can make a mistake somewhere and it’s not that the higher-ups won’t forgive us, uh, officials or tamorkans won’t forgive us for this people because they will understand that we are also not that particular source of information that always says only the truth and gives verified information, so you know this is such a reputational risk, for example, for me as for, uh, a source of information. let me better not be an hour for seconds late, but i will teach you that only my information, the most accurate, the most correct, and it really does not hurt absolutely agree with you. i myself say this all the time, but there is such a rule that the right decision made with delay
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or not temporarily the right decision will no longer be in this respect. we often encounter fakes. with such a situation, when a fake flies by, and it begins to spread in a viral way, uh, to a large audience. it captures minds. he gets people emotional. it seems that it is already impossible to resist him. there is no decision with no opposition, because the decision has not been made. and so, when time passes, and finally, an official appears and issues an absolutely correct summary and makes a correct statement, where everything is verified to the last detail. this information is no longer of interest to anyone, because the fake has done its job and in this respect , delay here is like death in its time, roman commanders. ah, legion commanders. they had so-called martial bones. when they didn't know how to act. so they threw the bones and followed and acted, as they will show. this divination was never expected. by the sea
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weather, they never took a passive position, because a passive position leads, e.g., to a guaranteed defeat, and active actions, even wrong ones, are far from always. thank you very much, dear guests. we are forced to complete our program dmitry but still, there is a magnificent phrase, it is difficult to deceive me with it. i myself madara yes , even a quote like that. how do you think today we are talking about speed about the effectiveness of efficiency, if it is possible today to reach out to the ukrainian society. present him with truthful information in this distraught flow of false and how to prepare ourselves to avoid becoming, but these objects of manipulation are fakes. here, first of all, you need to, if you observe some kind of emotional information, then still accustom yourself to the fact that you need to
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pause, at least at 5-8 hours there and so on in order to still the situation more or less it became clear and resolved, but in relation to the direction in which to develop, it is so obvious here that it is necessary to develop our sources and channels for delivering information in order to in fact, to be able to do this on the internet and the benefit of modern technology allows this, because there are neutral platforms such as telegram and they must be used, especially in order to apply information to those citizens of ukraine who live. unfortunately, the territories occupied by nato are starting now. well, let 's conclude our program. the final word of today's conversation is given to you? well , after all, the power is in pravda; we complete our program with the same question from which started it for sure. only here are your guests, they say, that's it, it's very competently beautiful and so on, but they say, here, honestly , there is no such truthful information in the west,
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therefore, it seems to me, they are struggling with honesty, but against promotions, that is, they realized with serving in the incubation that i need, so it seems to me that she is honest in front of them. well then there is this bead-blue toss. excuse me. thank you all very much, dear colleagues , we put an end to this discussion. i would like to say the following, firstly, that we won't finish talking about this topic for a long time , because discussing any really important political topic on television in our time inevitably means participating in an information war. and secondly, i would like to note that, as in the well-known dichotomy , scouts are spies for each other with our opponents. we will always be, respectively , information workers for ourselves, and propagandists for them, and vice versa. and, of course, a quote from beloved pelevin for dessert, so the end of the world, which christians have been talking about for so long, to which it is inevitable
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leads to vaulization of consciousness will be absolutely safe in every sense, because disappears, the one to whom the danger could threaten. the end of the world will be just a tv show and the companions fill us all with inexpressible bliss. thank you. well, now i am authorized to declare. the information war of all against all is a normal state for the post-truth era. we follow the sports life of our country , the international federation for various sports continues to make a decision on the admission of belarusian and russian athletes to waiting competitions and judoka. the participation of belarusian athletes in the summer games in paris remains the main goal
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, we will find out how new heights are reached 17 years ago natalia tsivilskaya rewrote the history of cycling in our country by becoming an eight-time winner of the world championships what is the heaviest medal? the one that isn't when you 're riding a competition. you love to win very much and want to win, but something doesn’t work out for you. this is hard when there is no medal, and then i already decided something, i already take on myself and finish it all. it will end badly and we help keep ourselves in shape, we lie down, we raise our hands up, we raise our legs and we do such cool cockroach exercises, watch sports projects on belarus 24 tv channel. offer specific actions to make decisions and fulfill agreements. and how does it happen that
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the knife at this chair is illusory. that's much more than four, whether we need it or not. perhaps this is the emotional step that fakes are trying to achieve from us to see logic in action and find answers to controversial issues. be mindful and make excuses and remember that politics is very difficult. but it's very interesting. i am categorically glad that we are now forcing ourselves to respect the author's projects. watch on belarus 24 tv channel.
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