phones of several ministers a couple of years ago, just stole 10,000 euros of representative funds without a receipt, checks and supporting documents. the problem is not only in the amounts, but in the totality of the phenomenon, and in fact it is probably visible in lithuania, so far. just the tip of the embezzlement iceberg. a gift for a car for transporting disabled children in wheelchairs, equipped with a lifting mechanism , was presented to the mogilev specialized orphanage under the care of 300 children here. they are surrounded by care and attention from the state and charitable organizations. over 5 years, more than a million rubles were allocated for the purchase of medical equipment, including ventilators, the opening of an early intervention department of rehabilitation rooms. today is a wonderful holiday, children's day , a huge amount of gratitude to our enterprises and residents of the city of mogilev who responded to this fruitful action. i want to wish

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so. because we cut it with love. to belarus the weekly socio-political talk show in essence today we will talk about whether young belarusians are safe or on the eve of school holidays. it seems to me that it's time in the studio, as always , kirill kazakov and alen serova work for you, but you can become participants in our discussion. here at the bottom of the screen you see a qr code, please. scan it and join our conversation. ask questions, share opinions. we will try to voice them, but in the right corner you will see a qr-code that will lead you to our telegram channel. there is also a lot of useful information from what will not be included in

broadcast, but we will try to cover the most interesting at this hour. hello, good evening. i will remember my early journalistic career. i worked for the zone x program for almost 10 years, so for me, in fact, criminal reports. unfortunately, for sure, as for the people who are in this studio are quite a familiar thing. the only thing, really. something i couldn't get used to. this is to whom, when crimes were committed against children. well, such a story when people of a young age cannot stand up for themselves. and you are reading. for example the last summary i looked at before the program. this is that in belarus at the beginning of the year a pedophile was detained, who in 10 years raped more than seventy children to kindergarten teachers. yes worked better nutritious in kindergarten. we will not talk today only about this, because well, in fact, god forbid that in our country these crimes are still solved, people are punished, and this topic

has never ceased to be a taboo, because well, we, for example, western newspaper we read when the parliamentarian is sitting there now and they say. let us, for example, if you agree with what was received from a child, then we can, in principle, legally ask our editors to quote one of the representatives of the democratic community, so to speak. why, for example, the director of right policy. uh, one of the international court funds. it is the sexual behavior of persons under the minimum age. consent established within a country can occur by mutual consent, if not legally, then realistically in this context the application of the criminal legislator should reflect the rights further and further and further, and in fact, there are quite a lot of such things. we still, for example, 10 years ago. it was creepy, in general, in principle, to think about it. and now, well, people are being prepared for the fact that in general, in principle, the relationship between adults and children becomes one thing. although that doesn't happen. this is equivalent. like a sex change. the

same topic that you can talk about in social networks. literally before the program , they again flipped through them, and even in the west and parents. complains, there in canada in the same one that there are books in school libraries that clearly spell out, and in which stories of relationships are told there, i no longer take some gender moments. yes, but when there is a father raping a daughter, and in principle, uh, this is considered normal. well, in general, we are not for this modern normal west at all, and thank god that we have a traditional state , traditional family values. what the president spoke about the last time he spoke to the parliament and in his message to the people and parliament, but in fact , we are somehow infected with this infection, yes, we are infected and the internet is really to blame in many respects, because starting from the same pedophilia, too, as a radical extreme point

of the crime, to the same pmc, which is simply probed our children in order to let them get together gennadiykalevich. where do they call first? people reconcile always. yes, that is, no matter how they spread rot, i don’t know for some reason, our positioners or extremists always police, so that it doesn’t happen 102 always 122. ah, many expert journalists and those who belong to them write that we have similar crimes. it is precisely in relation to children that this figure has become more true and true. what crimes are committed against children? well , let's do it 11 years ago, we had 38 crimes related to sexual abuse of children. last year. there were more than 1,000 of them, more than 800 young belarusians became victims of sexual violence, and only last year this is dry statistics, but we understand that for

every such child, but a crippled life follows, respectively, this topic is the topic of pedophilia, it is very painful for society and extremely stigmatized, including in the belarusian society, it is easiest to say that this is not the case. no, it is necessary to talk about it and not just talk, but do everything in order to protect our children, like a policeman. i can tell you that 100% of such crimes are solved. why because it is a matter of cleaning and there is no pathos for each person, but is to find and punish such a rascal. believe me. we are very tough with them, but the question is that only law enforcement. it is impossible to effectively counteract this method. unfortunately , the world around us the world around our children has become cruel, an unlimited amount of information has appeared, any of the dirtiest, most nasty, and so on, of course. everything, this is how the criminological aspect, it ultimately affects the situation on the question is not how many crimes are committed, the question is

what we do in order to maximize reduce such a number of crimes, and here in the country a lot is being done and is being done not only by the police, but by all law enforcement officers by all civil society. i think not only law enforcement officers. here we are, when we were preparing for the program, of course, we selected guests and it was very important for me, but that a psychologist teacher who works with children, in principle, at school, was present on the site, because it seems to me that in addition to parents, who interact with their children and talk to them, then a big role, just nevertheless, mmm, a big role in recognizing such cases in time to provide assistance in time is played by schoolgirl teachers, counting reports from public reports. in some cases, it was written that it was school psychologists. helped e to establish that a person a small person was sexually abused because parents are not told share this story your

experience, of course, work in a school. uh, the city of minsk, uh, in our school enough attention is paid specifically to the prevention of violence. uh, we work with all subjects. these are educators laws representatives, students laws representatives and educators. they get acquainted. it means that with types of violence , signs of violence, we invite you to parent meetings of methodological associations of thematic consultations at parent universities, that is, this topic is constantly discussed in our educational institution. i don't uh, don't talk about that story. it is necessary to tell, yes, every year, we conduct psychodiagnostic research - this is psycho-emotional monitoring and questionnaires to identify violence. i know that you brought up such a case in march of this year, which means that according to the diagnostics of the psycho-emotional state , a minor who was depressed was revealed, and

this minor was invited for additional diagnostics for a conversation. during the conversation. all diagnostics were confirmed. that is, that the condition was associated with threats from a relative against the girl. uh, so, as with minors there were trusting relationships. that is, i i knew the child was constantly in the trust of vkontakte with me. he was still a girl who opened up and said that i was the only person. it generally knows about it that sexual acts were committed against her in relation to, well, her uncle's relatives. here is a girl, which means according to the algorithm of informing pedagogical workers. i wrote this information, we passed it on to the police department and the education department. well, look. and how, in general, in principle, all this works for us, and that's it. it's uh, arranged. someone told me that in order to the school psychologist worked. e with a child. there

is a must, yes. is the consent of his official representative true or not? yes, this is true, but for some types of diagnostics according to the law of psychological assistance, that is , it is carried out as part of prevention, we conduct psycho-emotional monitoring and questionnaires on violence as part of prevention, capturing everyone. well, how is it possible from uh, the whole multitude of children, uh hmm , to identify those who are in such a vulnerable ahh state. how can you identify well by various signs, but even too depressive state. that is, we constantly talk with teachers that we are watching the children and the slightest thing, uh, in notebooks, they indicate something or something else, krista draws. well, that is, notice the slightest better. come see a psychologist so that i pay attention. well, often, even the same depressive state. it may have 40 reasons for itself, that is, violence is not necessarily a topic that can be hidden for years. that's shameful. this is somehow unacceptable. that is such. here.

tell me, in fact, is there really an effective methodology by which you can talk with the child to understand what he has in mind, so that he can directly ask questions and the child answers them, probably not, after all, i agree with my colleague in greater degree. this is an observation. these are conversations with a child. this is the slightest remark in him in changing his behavior, if these are children. yes, we often hear that violence is committed against very young children there of sadovskaya age, what do children of sadovskaya age do, they play and come, uncle, as a rule, all the same. we believe that a pedophile is a man, my uncle came to play with me, and then in the child's play activity you can see the objects of the game, which can be attributed in one way or another. you can see the sexual interaction in the child's drawings, threatening things the child can be

anxious sad refuse to eat stop playing and say yes. it's not exactly violence that's supposed to be behind this a lot, but nevertheless the child begins to avoid interaction with the stepfather. or you, as a colleague, cites an example with a diodii native with a coach with a teacher. e, often, if we ask the layman. here is such a pedophile in the eyes of an ordinary person. i answer almost perfect family this is the next version is, if he is who such a pedophile is, usually the closet is child killer rapists. here in the real picture of the world, this is not so, as a rule, this is some kind of stranger and parents. they say don't take candy for the house, don't go. but very often pedophiles, just the same, are close acquaintances familiar family relatives. aunts, unfortunately, can also be pedophiles, uncles, coaches and teachers, whom children unconditionally trust and , uh, there is one very primitive feeling we

have - this is fear . and this is often the reason that we notice very late and pay our attention. and we even want to believe. here is from this practice of yours. yes, i even want to clarify the point related to who these people are. is it really, uh, most often it is any acquaintances? that is, those uncles who invite for candy, for a corner. this is a horror story of the past. well, actually, if you look at today's statistics , we can say the first thing is that if you take everyone talking about pedophiles pedophiles, then first of all, uh, these crimes are not committed by people suffering from these diseases. and this is the usual ordinary b ninety-six percent of the disease. we just have this disease. yes , but in the west it is practically the norm. yes, it's sexual preference disorder.

accordance with the international classification of diseases, and we have a special one of our colleagues from the state forensic examination committee conducts an examination. and over the past six years, among the two hundred, and the criminals who committed such crimes, only 75 suffer from such a disease. all the rest are simple people, as you know about serial criminals they say a mask of normality, everyone says, this is basically something. she just got really into the internet. just looked at what they're doing. little interesting, or what? well, often for reasons. here, as far as we can see, because. it is our task of the investigative committee and the leadership to set us such a task to identify the causes and conditions. this is an example of addictive behavior. drunkenness very often these crimes commit a state of intoxication. very often a child is chosen not because there is such a preference, but because he is very easily available. we must understand and teach this child, of course a man, how to go and find an adult woman and some kind of rituals there for in order to have sexual intercourse it is easier

to find a child who is nearby and even now you are talking, and often using a man to a man. unfortunately , most crimes of this type are committed by men. this, uh, is unequivocally fixed, of course, there are also facts among women, but in their own way, probably, traumatism for a child. here. uh, this is certainly a man more traumatic crime. we have a case recently identified when a female educator performed certain actions. and here, but it is clear that in general this became possible thanks, among other things, to the attentive attitude of the ministry of internal affairs towards law enforcement agencies, because there was attention from psychologists, and all this made it possible to identify. in principle, not the victim not the accused did not want to hide the cases you fall into. eh, that's basically it. for what reason? hmm well, how could it be, it is possible to find out that this is a pedophile, yes,

that is, i understand that the policemen. well, there is, uh, its own service. uh, there is a criminal investigation department , for example, uh, how would the calls that, well i say again i started the program with the fact that you got into a situation that you two need to investigate . here is the starting point, most often it is that the mother is the neighbors, this is the school teacher. who is calling? who becomes who? well, yes, who is sounding the alarm in order to do this appeared in the end, well, to date, taken in the republic of belarus, you correctly say a lot of various organizational measures that allow us to identify these crimes thanks to the ministry of internal affairs, the ministry of education, the ministry of health from there arrives this information. and this becomes known to us very often, and mothers or close relatives turn to me, i'll tell you. here's one for our business. well, maybe it's not quite or representative, but an interesting point is that very often it's about how you need to be attentive to the child, and the mother of the victim. and, especially when

she is enough. at a young age, she very often takes the side of her sexual partner, on the side of the one who commits the crime, the child comes, he does not understand what is happening to him, the mother tells the mother summons someone who can be suspected. he says, i'm sorry about that, because she has a bad behavior, and she slanders me, and that's it. and this horror continues for years to come. that's why it's different. but we must still note and say thank you to our colleagues. well, look, i'll finish this topic, look. i know many investigators who simply do not want to discuss this topic, not because it is tabooed, but simply because they say, well, as you know, like they said, right? well, really , maybe this is such a not very pleasant topic for society. no, no, it's not, but let me interrupt. this is the topic. not just unpleasant , eh, this topic is extremely painful

; i have been serving for 30 years and i just can’t get used to it. i agree professional burnout. in this part , there are no non-operatives. and that's what the departments do. uh, it's not the detectives who fight against drug trafficking. i think but problem. think a lot deeper, because uh, child sexual abuse. this is the final stage. final, and before that, maybe grooming? sex torshin sex chatting and so on and so on foreign words, but the actions are absolutely understandable. when on the internet certain actions are performed against a special victim , they incline her to sexual contact, and so on, and practice shows in many ways. we study the personality of each pedophile, because forensic or criminological, and the portrait is very important for preventing the prevention of these crimes. so we see that it all starts with child porn. at we have special software that allows you to see in real time e consumers of child porn,

for example, those e subscribers who download via torrents. here's some porn content. he's not forbidden, we touched on the topic of punishment, but for such an act, when we prepared this e program. kirill and i also talked a lot about the fact that there is such an opinion that and most importantly , for law enforcement officers, in addition to the fact that, of course, to protect the victim from this kind actions and avoid such a thing as lynching, because those who want to uh hmm get even with such people. well, quite a lot, pavel mikhailovich, tell me, please, right away, uh, in such cases, probably, to request the maximum possible punishment or not? well, of course, the punishment is requested as severe as possible. that is, i'm not saying that this is the upper limit of the sanction, but it takes into account, firstly, uh, personality. e of the accused person takes into account the circumstances, the number of victims, the very

characteristics of the victim circumstances, what happened and uh, taking into account this uh, the prosecutor's office for demanding severe punishment. uh, as a rule, the courts agree with us and indeed on crimes related to violence by minors. sexual is assigned quite a serious punishment. here was one of the examples. uh, again, i want to draw your attention to the fact that within. we are discussing, if i understand correctly, we are more concerned with the topic of physical violence, that is, in the classical sense, but taking into account developing technologies, there are a lot of uh, violent crimes are committed on the internet, this is one example. this year, a sentence was passed against an adult man who , using the internet, committed indecent acts against

about 150 minors from various regions of the country, including, a little more than 90 were residents. children of the city of minsk, uh, 6 years old, imprisonment. well, i'll just tell you , you know, it's called the unofficial. i can tell you a man who received 6 years in a colony. they come out for 18. because there are absolutely , again, we talked about what confirm or refute. you are more competent here than i am, and that the number of recidivists is quite high of those who leave after 6 years and go to do the same, you understand, you should not be confused here, but relapse is a special relapse. in this case, it is not large, only 4%, but the question is that, as a rule, these crimes are alarming. they are long and episodic in other words, a pedophile who acts carefully. they

even instructions on the net are distributed in the ducknet, they can be downloaded and read, how to infiltrate the trust, how to make sure that you are not caught, and so on and so forth. so he can commit violent acts against children for years and being 70 years old children. well, that's 70. in fact, over 11 years, 170. we ourselves are talking about the same criminal case in a small belarusian town and there are many victims, and i can't tell me about it. uh, what did it hurt, hearing, during the current discussion, we are talking manuals, you can’t work with children according to the manual, you can’t to kid. one must love, one must be attentive to him, and then only children over 10 years old are required. no one noticed in this particular story, but, in my opinion, my mother helped. yes, they met a teacher there in the store and a psychologist boy. mom, by the way, is a psychologist. mom saw this question. so they really

other parents don't talk to their children. well, in what, as it were, decades, this is not one child. see. this is already a systemic problem. well, maybe i'm speaking radically, because in fact, if you say what is an explosion behind last decade of these crimes. this is due either to the fact that it has become. to say either really the crime has become more than it is connected, firstly, the detection rate has become better. secondly, they really began to voice all this, and thirdly, in principle, the work of government agencies. uh, in that same health care education has become a bit systemic. and what allows? uh, wait to reveal more, and not the crimes themselves have become more. you know it's a high-return crime and say endpoint conditionally, there committed 100 revealed 99. this is impossible, so one of the factors. why e figure has risen it

really? you look at this figure includes a crime. well, how do you say physical contact? yes? or, too, this internet is these, yes, indecent acts on the network are also included, and more such crimes are being detected, because the most important thing is that we have moved away from what we started, we stopped hiding, after all, the contact of law enforcement officers with doctors and teachers . with hollogs right now on 100%. moreover, we do this in such a way as not to injure the child a second time , in other words, initially it is not the policeman or the investigator who communicates with the child, but the psychologist, and we try to make sure that this communication takes place once. and everything else is the level of skill of law enforcement, how to fix this whole thing? how to prove how e direct the court and so on? well, we have, uh, everything is done in terms of legislation, to reduce the number of crimes against adults, i can say it harshly. can we introduce chemical castration

says everything harshly, because indeed we will always feel, but there are not enough funds. why because childhood is the most sensitive topic for us. this is something that is dear to us for every belarusian, and we, if we say that we have done everything absolutely. so we will sign our own impotence. with a request to toughen punishments, or at least, with colleagues somehow , it was discussed at a meeting of the commission on the national rights of the child and state bodies , individual e citizens expressed their opinion about that it is necessary to toughen the punishment for certain executions, the only one in europe, and we don’t care about this whole story. yes, why don’t we really carry out chemical castration so that everyone knows that we don’t only have a traditional family because you will be such a freak, you will simply be forever deprived of this dubious pleasure in the russian

federation, this issue was also discussed, but i am not a specialist in the field of medicine, but i believe that this is not forever, that desire can return in a person and therefore, but hard final. here, so that like this, i'm here, well, in a different way, how to treat this differently and differently. probably we need to treat all our children to the whole society and to protect children, it is possible to increase their resistance to stress, increase their literacy . eh, such a portal will help buy, there is an explanation. how to do what? in some cases. i'll tell you now, too, not a very pleasant thing for us adults. they do not read these portals. they look somewhere on tiktok, or vkontakte, or somewhere else for those posts that they like, and they absolutely they don’t climb onto these portals, which we

are talking about, but we have such a portal. we have such a history, we do nothing. you know, children. well, i don't know, until you read a kid's phone, you won't know what he's doing, absolutely right. and here the role is not only society, but also parents, which we all talked about, that you need to be careful, you need to live in the interests of your child, we will definitely look, last year we discussed the sensational story when a blogger, whose name is probably 90% of adults there did not even know collected, but a large number of people, yes, in one of the malls of children in one of the malls in minsk but for many parents. i know exactly the presence of their children. there was a revelation. why didn’t he let his daughter go there, because they don’t talk with us, the child went there, we were journalists and didn’t know this. he said, i went to the blogger's. i left. then i called back. his phone is broken, he says,

well, there was a crowd there. and then we pulled these children out of the sheets, and then organized an emergency evacuation, because there was a real threat to the life and health of all those present. it was dana they say, really, and we are in shock. well, i'm in shock. this was already understood after the fact. and before that, the situation turns out to be such that a person left, another topic, you know, as we say, the next revolution will be a tick revolution. we will talk about this now, because the safety of children, but the only threat there is physical sexual abuse. it is not limited. we are now facing a large number of challenges, when children are simply lured in the literal sense of all these social, the internet is pushing for certain actions. they are often, not what the law proceeds. they are ready to start this line of life and death. how are we doing with this now ? remember there was a sensational story about this blue whale, blue whale, then everyone knew about it, uh, yes, every child went on the road to his

suicide, a great story was just great here, you have to understand. here, if you remember the blue whale, yes, from the influence of the media, there is such a werther effect, if you know, yes, because on today we have taken measures to combat these suicidal tendencies, but today we have practically no such cases. and so, when, for example, it was noticed that when it is a mass media, or, well, in modern media, and therefore this is mentioned but it causes interest in the child and, accordingly, he joins these groups even because of the interesting and yana influence media influence of having the internet as in the soviet era of the moment. the sign was no exit, and everyone says well, no exit. all this approximately turned into a joke then, but it really works this is it. modern technology, we just try in some way. eh, apply our experience. but we need to understand that this is something new, something that we must somehow

work with the children, probably right, because we often encounter a misunderstanding of the child. and somehow you need to talk to them to get on their level. it's hard against everyone you started talking about that a lot of uh, it's crimes going on sexual grounds. eh, well, it’s called here in the closest circle of your apartment, when you don’t need to look for something there, this is called inside the family church, and according to the dynamics we see such a change that is happening here, as i said, because of the involvement of these here social networks on the internet, or i do not know the correspondence. that's just such a contact, when it may not have been physically there, but it was called a crime, right? it is a crime. i'm just now i'm kind of not going to finish, but i read one material. yes, and it’s terrible, because what a child experiences there, because there is a port, we can not perceive it, but this is violence, which was equally worn on the internet, which is offline, which is live.

psychologically, i can probably say that yes, that this is a criminal who sits there anonymously, he commits such actions that will have the strongest impact even today. we are here, including for a long time with the internal affairs body. e were in some such confusion did not know that today, this growth , including that of crime, is caused by the fact that a we have learned hmm law enforcement agencies. i mean to identify and punish such people. here it is, it's left. only, perhaps, to learn how to create a system and we are following this path in order to rehabilitate these victims, which is very important . we consider it one of the most important. to rehabilitate the victim for everyone, including the initiative we have, on the initiative of the ministry of internal affairs, developed a national mechanism to help children who have become victims of sexual violence. and we let's move on. we are talking not only about children, but also about parents, because they are also victims in one way or another, respectively. here is such a national mechanism. there are many aspects

that are very difficult, but let's hope that it will be effective; it has already been implemented. yes? it's designed. now currently under adoption. we are right here. we have created a structure. now we need to fill it up. or it should be done by all of us together, probably by the means of the masses. well there, although not included directly to the mass media. here we are in such a light e not understanding, let us talk about it. well, i'm talking about the fact that many do not want to talk, because either as you say, it's embarrassingly unpleasant, or it's really more often to tell. you know how in soviet times there was a board of honor and a board of shame. and here you looked here, what kind of comrades, and then who should be embarrassed to be afraid to go away from him, maybe, so. tell me from the point of view of the prosecutor's office, maybe they really toughen the punishment, or according to your version. everything is fine. everything is fine. and we're goodbye nothing is required. we have enough strength and leverage. you understand that the toughening

of the punishment in itself, it may not help to reduce the level of this crime, because at the moment there are quite serious sanctions for certain crimes related to child abuse. eh, the fact. uh, the punishment there is the same death penalty. he won't stop. eh, crime is good. i remember, mikhalych and i turned it off for you just like that . really. i agree as well with the fact that the next revolution will be the revolution of those who if we are trying now to decompose any crime against children. like offline, sorry and online. will something like this happen after august 2020, when, based on our mistakes, we tightened the laws in this way, maybe we can foresee this situation, because this is milana khametova, who arrived at this pier. this pmc redan, which collected our children, after all. this is also a story about a crime with children. uh. we are now

talking a little, probably in different ways, if answering the previous questions. i replied to uh, tougher punishment for i understand sexual e sexual nature, then if we are talking in general about some current threats from modern ones for children, then it is certainly worth introducing a speech about tightening and ensuring control over the use of the e internet. e, in order to prevent the negative impact on children of the information that is distributed there, respectively, the tightening of responsibility for both offenders, including parents. why because we forget a little that we have parents in the first place turn are responsible for education for health for the development of the child. and when we , even in this studio, discuss and talk about what someone is finalizing or not improving. why do we have growth and so on, uh, we forget that parents should be primarily responsible for their actions, which ekaterina

sergeevna told us well, uh, if this happened within the family, then, as it were, what can we talk about here who should have noticed it? even an example of how i went to my own school on parent meeting, when they talked about pmcs to the editors, it means, uh, they gathered us and they say, black hair, black sweaters, be careful, because this is such a layer that will draw your children in, look carefully at the children. i say listen. i say it's a mini august of 2020, with kids only. i say, our most important task is children to talk to walk. these shopping centers, the police are there. they will just be taken away. you parents will suffer in this. that's right, when he said that parents would suffer because children they will go, and they are responsible for them only

then this situation somehow became, it is clear because black hair is black sweaters. this is not an example of the fact that a person or well a child has become a criminal, so here, i agree with you that we are the same or blame the phone for what it has become. uh, it's impossible for criminals, however, when communication is on the internet. and so we go out and sexual crime on the internet and social crime, and as a result, political ones, they go there on children. we understand that this is the internet. no about ban internet. uh, by the way, at every beginning of the school year , an endless discussion begins. shouldn’t we ban phones in schools, knowing there in some classes the children have their own rules, there they hand over these phones before the start of the lessons, then they receive them at the end of the lessons, but now there are a lot of different things. there are also smart watches. there is anything. in principle, a child cannot communicate if desired. well, uh, why

can phones be banned? or why can't we ban phones in schools? ah, the inner the rules of each educational institution define here the minimum requirements for parents. uh. well, including to students, as participants in the educational process, if the school has determined that phones are prohibited. well, let's say within the framework of the lesson, and they are not used or are used only with e , to e, as it were, the consent of the teacher and e under the guidance of the teacher, because today many textbooks have the so-called augmented reality and children can use some of their devices. quite right. that is, under teacher guidance. children can use it, but so that it does not become widespread and we also have not very positive examples, when the use of the phone in an educational institution did not lead to some good stabilizing situation in the same school, or for some other reason, therefore by decision is. uh, each educational institution has its own instructions for internal rules, which

are approved jointly. after discussion with parents in that. and uh, of course if the child should need, if the need is urgent call your parents. nobody forbids him call his parents urgently, but uh, to avoid this uh excessive use of mobile phones. yes, there are indeed limitations. well, that is, in fact, the minimum ban on the internet is temporary , it exists for some time . guys , we have special cells for leaving phones, but if a teacher in a lesson uses a phone to work in a lesson, then, of course, guys don't give up, but, probably, there are much more here. it's getting deeper, but you can't do anything forbidden. we understand one phone normally. i will agree. well, look, we are not really in the family we can not fully figure it out. how do children use

the internet? well, the truth is, maybe a man here. you come to the computer, everything is fine, history. everything is fine. i looked at the phone on the internet , everything is fine on the internet, but in the end, it turns out that there is also a mirror page on social networks, where it’s a completely different life to work on content that we must convey to children, because it prohibits all the time, of course, there is parental control and parents should pay attention, but plus more. uh, why are we not so active on tiktok? why on social networks? no, i'll tell you that tiktok is the fastest growing social network in belarus, the fastest growing. so we need to use and convey the information that we want to children, but all the same, children will look for content according to their interests. you know, e. i think hmm guys who follow famous bloggers are more than those who will study. i don’t know

what kind of birds live in the forests of belarus. well , roughly speaking, or some kind of moralizing useful, but khametov’s rules are much more popular. well, anyone, to whom we say so, we feed more attention. the bottom line is that we either have to follow, roughly speaking, trends and fashions that were not created by us and try to catch up with these wagons leaving us, or try to do what we can at our level. here we are when we talk very often about education. i'm talking about ideology. eh, including in this studio. we still always run into the same question. and what is primary, who are the primary teachers? or parents? this is always the case. whose responsibility in this case is higher and more i would not share. that's the kind of responsibility at different times. e teacher can sometimes do more than parents. he has more influence. maybe it depends on the parents, of course, we are talking 50/50,

as well as the time that the child spends at school and in the family, well, we understand. educators have education yes psychological pedagogical, that is, they know how to influence, and i think that we still need to talk about the fact that today we must offer children more than a school course and more than additional education in a school program, if we are a child today, but we can immerse yourself in some interesting business. yes, not all, but let's try to offer them section circles, then children. eh, maybe they will be more happy to be distracted from gadgets, but we also understand that gadgets are today's reality, gadgets, they say this is a new drug. here, well i say again, i am not on the side of those who say that the internet should be banned, but still some kind of regulation from the point of view of parents, it is necessary, as a child, to convince that it is to watch, it is

not to watch. and if you watch it, then for a while. look, we are raising a very important topic about unity. in the children's family, and law enforcement agencies, yes, and everyone can make a certain contribution to ensure that our children are happy, healthy and in a safe environment, including in social networks there is a norm for spending time on the internet. in any case, it depends, of course, on age. please remember when you were with her space. remember the picture that we see when a mother comes in with a small child. he starts to question her. and what is this, what is this what does mom do? well, it's you in the hands of a gadget, the phone clicks on you. he's already pushing buttons. and he is happy, happy , looking for something there, who wants to ask a question. here, i want to come up to pick up this phone and give it back to my mother. i'm being honest, i'm like this reaction has limits small children, generally half an hour a day older children 2-3 hours a day depending on age and again we are back to a very simple thing. e parents are often very convenient. you know,

in what question, and we are a child at home he did not go out into the street. he won’t lure you anywhere, he’s at home and you know such conditional calm, it’s very dangerous already at home. and this makes it easier for me, as parents, and therefore they let me out there. i understand that you have operational service guys who work on the internet. well, it 's necessary. what are the biggest mistakes they make parents on the internet, when, well, relatively speaking, they do some. crime or crime themselves become, or themselves become in the child. well, using the example of illegal drug trafficking, i can say that this is a very fine line when a child becomes a victim. uh, that is , drug users, when he himself becomes dealers, sometimes one flows over the other from one begins to finish with the second. and it is impossible to ban the internet, because our life is a significant degree. even the life of already adult, successful people consists of

virtual space provide some kind of parental control. you don't have to lie to yourself. well, it's also impossible. i can give you a specific example, pmc redan. it has been said several times today. yes, first of all, it is necessary to understand this trend correctly, the way we are today and the way you spoke about it today. you know that, like the story about the black dog that honked? yes, they are here with their spider numbers, but in fact this is a cartoon story, and not us, these are cartoons and, uh, children who are not socially adapted, who consider themselves outcasts, and so on. they communicate and unite in this way. there is no question of any violence there. we are talking about a crime about the violation of no crime, or an offense and those - in fact, for sure. but then, at some point, overnight , their agenda is replaced by an aggressive or political one, we saw this on the example of what

red, when literally over, but in fact it’s a little, we did an analysis of 25,000 young people. eh, one way or another were interested. here are the topics for the week somewhere. yes, a little more maybe a little more means, about 4,000 were active participants at the first meeting. only 200 people came to gomel and we immediately detained them. well, as they detained, they simply took me by the hand, took me to the police. the parents were called. they handed over the father to the mothers and said that it was impossible to do this further, nevertheless. no chain, still a criminal case. e was possible and is being investigated to date. the question is not, just a few days later we saw that the agenda began to be replaced by a political one, in other words, this technology. uh-huh it's social engineering technology. it doesn't matter what you're dealing with. here , with such non-year-old cartoon lovers , there is a manual for a pedophile or a manual for a political person who no, they both

exist on the internet by agreement. so there according to interests, then it will change along the way, along the way . no mystery. i won't open it here. you can't stop leading. yes, this is a classic story of taking the agenda away from the political one, and in the end it is not a problem now, but we already understand how it works, but i will repeat it. it shouldn't be a story about a black dog, these children are not allowed. that's it. well, you see, once again i say that, as if at a school meeting , black hair, black sweatshirts are bad. well, not everything is so, probably, definitely the school meeting was held promptly and quickly. after this fact became known, therefore, of course, teachers interpreted it somewhere, as they believed, but teachers all study the same psychology in one way or another and in exactly the same way. i don't think there's any big mystery for them about the, uh , effect we talked about above than

the more we talk, the more we will popularize somewhere among children, in the same way there is no mystery in the fact that some concepts can be conditionally replaced by others, even among adults, when they are united by interest there about i don’t know homeless cats, then in what -the moment to redirect in another direction. well, what is called we saw a thousand of them. well, yes, it is quite possible, therefore. eh, maybe, again, not really. this is the link we have built not quite. eh, the thing is interpreted correctly , the work with parents. i want to say. in such matters, when teachers are not competent enough, one might say they do not have complete information, they turn to the internal affairs bodies for help, and not a single juvenile affairs inspector refused to come to the school and participate in the parent meeting. i myself am talking about what god is. therefore, i know perfectly well how it works and, uh, we can now build an ideal picture here that in which case

a few conscious teachers will go and take care of it, like love, an adult will go and study information from several sources in order to understand all the responsibility that is on him to convey it. yes, alcohol is a place of understanding. yes, there is a fine. and let's scare it also works, but let's scare. let's warn, i would say in other words, but on the other hand, the ministry of education. in order to do that, i have created a dubai portal that hosts information for educators and parent-teacher conferences for parent universities. it has already been said that this does not always work for children. it is for educators educators tend to materials. still, they take it from some official sources and life experience and few of the teachers, going to the parent meeting , they use only worldly experience, well , there is, of course, i can’t say that there are no such teachers, but as a rule, this, if it still goes. uh, parent meeting parent university, then this is, of course,

prepared materials recommended, including the ministry should be worked out. or maybe some single unified method has already been developed for work. e with parents and students. yes , the only thing we have today is a fairly large arsenal of work with parents. uh, and uh, first of all, the project that many people already know about parent universities, because not all parents have a pedagogical one. psychological education has already been mentioned here, but nevertheless. we all want our children to be loved and heard by their parents. many of those crimes that could be committed depend on this, but if parents do not see their child, do not hear him, then, unfortunately, they this is also skipped, so parent universities have parent-teacher meetings and a variety of forms. this work with parents , of course, uh, cannot be stopped, because time is moving forward, and we cannot say, among other things, that those methods

were used 30 years ago. today they are also relevant and parents of other generations have changed. but in fact , here is an appeal, for example, from citizens, either towards how citizens raise issues that we discuss there relatively speaking, or how to protect children or really insufficiency of education, as it seems, yes or insufficiency of punishment, these questions, of course, do not prevail on ours, glory. yes, they don’t roll over to god, but nevertheless one feels pedagogical teams with parents, one doesn’t feel restlessness at all. anxiety and uh, the sad thing is that those who have to protect children from troubles themselves injure them, bring some moral physical damage to your commission. here we are talking about respecting the rights of the child , protecting the rights of the child, which we are now primarily investing in this comprehensively. notion in the national commission, there are no petty

issues. this is not only protection against, uh, some kind of illegal actions - this is also social protection. this is an opportunity to get a quality education. these are decent living conditions. this assistance is targeted assistance in various aspects. and if, for example, a child needs some kind of additional funds, of course, the commission pays attention to this. means of rehabilitation, that is, we conduct receptions. as for the national commission on the rights of the child, receptions are not only here in the capital, not only for workers places, but also visiting receptions. and here they come in the field and talk about some of their situations, in some you can help, in some uh, there are uh, some uh obstacles, maybe at the legislative level, and then

we are already looking, what needs to be corrected to help these people and people at parliamentary receptions certainly pay great attention to this issue, and we visit schools, communicate with a team of teachers, and see with students. by mood. what do children care about and when you talk to them, he talks about ordinary everyday things. no, we are not for organized me. we communicate with some manuals, we talk about what worries us today and what worries them, and here do they speak sincerely? here you are, to understand, you understand, children, of course, uh, are somewhere, or maybe someone has a hidden feeling, but when they go with you to the monument to a warrior buried since the great patriotic war , the guys start cleaning up those

guys who are there in rsm in rpo. but just the same, as a rule, children who have completely different interests, perhaps somewhere, too, are not according to their social words of those who commit crimes and those who are subjected to crime. who is this? here we are, we are starting to say that it is, well, if a person is really an activist, he acts for some kind of public organization, he has some kind of ambitions. he, well, there are super mega prosperous families there, yes, in which yes , super mega, well-being cannot be a guarantee that a person does not commit a crime. but we're talking about victims here. yes, but uh, it seems to me that in the interests of the state and society to speak about those minors. if anyone commits these crimes. you see , many of them are under the influence

of destructive elements. online. internet commit take for example. e hmm our, uh, united under articles of narcotic. yes. these are children who commit crimes because they want to earn money. yes, and they fall, then we quite possibly. well, yes, they are slowly turning on. moreover, i 'll be back a little. sexual crime here we notice such that e influence on a child of this deed, yes, but very often we encounter such a thing. now it's at work. though of course it's not very representative of when a survivor is accused of such a crime. this applies to men, a survivor of sexual violence in the past, you call the investigator and say, you can tell me about the identity of this accused. who he is, like from a good family, he says, we can and will tell everything. how do you know, yes, because a year ago he was a victim of a sex crime with us.

you see, that is, it is a very complex structure to say socially we can say that the majority, such as minors, who commit crimes. of course, they are paid, which is quite natural, but by some kind of educational process , either they study at school or in other educational institutions for this category, there are very few percent, in my opinion, about 10%, who do nothing, therefore, in basically, there are no guarantees. and we also need to remember not to sit behind our children. whatever it is family, or eto is completely set free, and no one is looking after him. but it can be quite prosperous super mega family region. by regions, well, uh, and the fact that in the capital there are more provinces there , or vice versa. well, it's just that the structure and dynamics of crime is slightly different in the region, for example, there, uh, there are regions that , uh, lie, if you take narcotic compounds. yes, there are, uh, drug stores that operate in

certain regions, for example, in one of the regions, well, in one of the southern regions. yes we have there was a huge number, and for minors the total number is a huge number. here are such victims for minsk, where there is a large concentration, there are many advanced children. was there any other crimes, for example, related to vibe fraud there. yes, uh, yes, there was such a wave recently, that is, of course, regionally, especially population density. especially uh, the way children develop there is affected by the influence of drug use and allowed themselves to continue there is no secret. no. if we're talking about drug situation, then the regions that are leaders in drug consumption in general in terms of the existence of drug use problems are the city of minsk, minsk region, gomel yes, and in terms of population, and so on. all this certainly affects the problem of involving children in drug use, but speaking about the problem. we need to understand, uh, the depth

of the problem. here are the statistics for you, you know how many underage drug dealers we detained this year, only 17, and you know how many overdoses of minors this year, none of this is significant in my time. we had a boom, and last year there were 16 of them one to perfect. unfortunately, the deadly seventeen-year-old girl died, then they drove her dead in the car for another day. and why did it happen? believe me, no one veils the statistics. we 've been away from this for a long time. this is the synergy of all the efforts that the state and civil society, including not only law enforcement officers, do not think. and literally over the past year, this is how we were able to improve our health. narco situation if we're about we are talking about it now, but on the other hand, 17 drug dealers of the detainees - is it a lot or a little? yes? after all, each is a broken life. after all, does she go to places, imprisonment and not for a year, so for us every

life is important and every time we ask ourselves. we did everything to ensure that he did not take this path, that's all. here you said the axis of energy. we often used the pronoun during our broadcast today. here we are, it seems to me, that’s exactly where it lies, and the way to ensure that our children are safe is this is a common effort of all those who surround these children to be attentive and love their children. as the teachers rightly said , listen to them and hear them. maybe a little distracted from their smartphones and just talk to chat, you look and learn something interesting. well, i think that many are now in front of the tv and think to talk or punish. i think that talking and punishing, because somewhere you need to toughen up, but you also need to talk.