from these frames, the heart stops, the realization that everything is reality, and not reconstruction , is terrifying. these sculptures of children in a round dance against the background of burning broken buildings evoke strong emotions, as they would say today, a shot worthy of the first prize in camera art and even heroism, given the conditions in which it was shot. nowadays , everything is easier, ever easier, a real movie can be shot even on a mobile phone, but today, in places where journalists-cameramen really passionately perform a feat of camera art and in principle , we are talking about the modern presentation of the topic of war with konstantin mochnik, a kuzbass resident has long been living and working in moscow; television experts call him one of the most professional cameramen in russia at the festival, eternal flame on the jury. i would say at many competitions that the level has grown a lot over the past year, the very tactics of the operator’s work have changed, for example, what

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get at least four and a half years, would have had time to form the ukrainian armed forces with nato, the maximum situation, this gain in time was very good for ukraine let them prevent the war and now ukraine can not only give an answer, but also receive the necessary support. yes, she was right to say that, because we wanted to buy time to give ukraine the opportunity to recover precisely during these 7 years. ukraine appeared think i need a war with russia.

one for vovan is great, the idea is enough for two. well, let's divide them, really into two conditional blocks. how did you get to such a life, and what to do with it? let's start with azov with the naming of vovan and lexus, if everything is somehow clear, yes, more or less, in fact, the original was vovan 22, but then the journalists began to cut to cut. well, just something for nonsense, what is the pseudonym? yes, as it were , well, actually, when i decided to do this, well, there was a pranker site in chief. it was still 2006. here. well, and there it was necessary, of course, to register. well, the first thing that came to mind decided to write there vovan back nickname one 11 is busy. he two two is free. well, it's all good. and here i am to you numerous anecdotes from childhood procrastination. they somehow played their part. no, no, it's all good. jokes are already

being written about us, but the sources are true, yes, it happens, including with my participation. well , as far as i understand, your partner lexus two words. yes luxury or elegant well let's get straight. still, the same principle e on behalf of the derivative on behalf of alexei, but i probably wouldn’t put some kind of luxury here, after all, probably, greek is greek bias, uh my name. i mean, well, the elegance is there when it all started. we didn't think about how some would look. yes, and how far it will go. well, it worked. uh, you know, it's very good in combination, yes, such an aesthetic and hooligan in a certain way here, most likely in that it's probably the easiest to remember. it's somehow simpler than a first and last name, and in fact

it's very close so good for the information field. so you prankster can you say so well, not quite classic, you know, yes, what is it that we call it a profession, we call it a prank journalist. well, because pranksters in the classical sense. here you go through the city to you. uh, the guys run up, there, 16 years old. and puts a thigh on your head and says, we don't want this to be hooliganism. we are checking your response. how will you react to the program of such a town, respectively. yes, this is probably the prankers of that classical period. what is the point is that it is more, probably, entertainment. it's a joke is to laugh. and why do we just prefix journalism, because we still have more journalists, because this is already interviews with people and obtaining basic information that is further published for society, but it is published in such an unusual form that there are elements of

humor are not always present always new they are there. but in general, how and who came up with the idea to turn into the most scandalous call center in the world. well, not really right away. here, let's call the ministers. let's call the presidents or something like that. yes, and at first it was more like hooliganism too, entertainment, because when we decided to do this, because prank was always such an underground and it was accepted the other way around, not to stick out not to publish your face, because and the guys called, there are two categories of b mostly or some crazy city locals who covered obscenities with crazy screams. well, they liked it too. uh, because a normal person. well, he just hung up and would not pick up everything they called, he was called once or twice, like there would be no reaction, zero or they called. tosha is about, and the level of urban crazy people is our show business stars. many. well, then it was known that there was not enough ksyusha sobchak

borya moses in kirkorov but, for example, they call there, uh, hmmeyte, and for some reason she says, i'm in the dressing room now. so i don't have russians now. this is also an unknown person. she calls. she is such a frankness with him or a storm moses in which he told various recipes. ah, how is it to be treated for some kind of disease to spread something to stick out a window with honey somewhere, there were such. well, purely purely, as they say, neighing. well, we also did this, and to some extent , and then, there came a moment when i wanted to do something more interesting, i guess. and let's go hmm and they wrote to appear some news to follow the news of show business, there, for example, we see some scandals, for example, there is one singer, but he quarreled with the singer b. we call the singer, but the singer is b, and he thinks that together there is no more. here you get some interesting

information. but at first it's just published, then they also made those on the prank. ksyusha said. well, in short, such a great story was. but the singer abe would not want to be taken away. yes, we think, by the way, in the plans for the interlayer. because the people who may be victims of these plans, they can hear it and prepare. well, initially it was still more of such secular journalism, that is, to get somewhere inside the scandal to find out what was there and therefore it didn’t have anything special with the public. well, there were stars there who were all into the hands of the fact that their the name is mentioned from the fact that they are not constantly spoken, they also received their benefits from this. but if there was still some kind of click, and let's work together. yes, but it was the fourteenth year of 2014, when we met in person, by the way

, for the first time. and so we somehow decided, but the topic of ukraine appeared in our country, uh, we got joint interesting to this topic. so we thought, why don’t you see, we counted more than 100%, but how many of them were actually somehow carried by accounting no, unfortunately, well, i remember 300, if we take our old one blocked, at that time not yet blocked youtube channel there was somewhere around 350, in my opinion, pranks. yes, yes, far from everything, and the problem is that we forget about many, that is, they tell us, and you talked with that person, damn it, but for sure, and moreover, you immediately remember that there was some kind of connection with this story is very funny. that is, in general, how we promoted it, how we bred it. well, we already forgot about it, because we have it somewhere on the shelf there, he remembered it, so for sure, well, well, a there are some statistics. and at least in your understanding, the percentage of cold and hot calls. it's cold be aware that

no one has passed. well, there are also many of them, of course, there, because if everything had been so ideal for a long time already and sometimes they would add it and everyone ilona mask , let's say, was waiting for something when they were reduced by a much multiple. uh, like from the moment we started this. we have become more famous. yes, but we always think that it didn't work out. eh, today. why not try? tomorrow come up with a different plan? yes, there was an experience such that we are about. well, first of all, we are developing better, now the legends. we have our own experience. we have an understanding of how it works. and we would not even try if we understood that there is a big risk, that is, if we communicate with a person, we look at him, firstly, we should be interested in that, well, not only to you, but also spectators. yes, secondly, we look at the complexity. hmm, that is, the probability

that if it is there, the probability is great, well we just don't take care of it. here, watch macron trudeau. johnson merkel erdogan duda bush yes, yes, but in the report card and ranks who is the biggest booty from your discussion, listen, that's cool, it was the coolest prank. well, we never put some kind of top, we are also often asked the funniest one or is there some kind of loudest for you for us. they can already tell the oldest one we had. yes, he has not yet been released, but we will not disclose, but a very interesting person. and by the way, i would say that probably one of the most significant people, including in the history of the whole world, to which we are of the 20th century. that is, it will be well, of those who are human, i will say more. he was still born during the time of lenin, therefore, well, he did not see lenin.

i didn’t see lenin, but he played a huge role in history, so he was, of course, interesting, it feels like i guess, of course, there is a speech, but okay, but with some after all, you talked several times, yes, five times, uh , we counted. several times by zelensky record this is stupidity, well, on their part, yes or they there really is no one to talk to. and so they crave this fellowship. well, we will basically think over such schemes so that it is interesting to our interlocutor, so that he gets in touch, so that he thinks that this conversation will not only bring some benefit to us, but to him, that is, he thinks that in this way too will solve some of his questions, and of course, yes. there, probably, sometimes in correspondence or when we communicate with assistants, he writes there. we want advice from one of the wisest people in the world. well, there is something like that. yes yes role of course, yes, of course, but poroshenko is also

a very sociable person. he's always coming somewhere. he constantly wants to enlist, even already retired, some connections, and he has them, and he was also the minister of foreign affairs at one time, therefore, when he became. as president, the first thing he did was build bridges with different people in every possible way. and we are this. well, you can say, i actually wanted to ask this question directly. yes, it occurs to me. sometimes it feels like most pranks are built on vanity. and people fall for it, especially from retired politicians. here a person wants to return to remind himself again, and to light up in the information space, and i looked with denisova, for example, you know the prank well, but now such a vacuum has really somehow been created. that is, no one talks about war crimes, they tell me, and you can write that a is a prison. on

zaporizhzhya it is necessary that official sources - they gave it. and the commissioner does not want to give it. this is because they do not believe him, that is, now the commissioners for rights person. he writes only what he will be told in the president's office, so we have now decided in this way. so it asks me to power. well intelligence. it was classic. here is an example of what i said, but it doesn't happen to you. it's a pity for these people, these departed ones, yes, who just crave attention so much. here is this public, what are you ready to say? well, i don’t really want to go there, taking care of safety. these people, unfortunately, also have such a large bloody track record. therefore, if we were thinking about whether to feel sorry for them, well, probably here

this question is inappropriate, because we understand who is in front of us, we understand that this is a public politician and, accordingly, that the things that they arranged only in this way, unfortunately, you can get more information about what denisov really is a classic example, because we will continue to use it, because she just organized a conversation with poroshenko. she, because we communicated further with her , continued to correspond on whatsapp. and there we say, we will invite you all the time. give a lecture, then go to congress. this, of course, she was very happy about, and we ask accordingly, but can you arrange more? can we have some conversations to help? we would like to hear an alternative opinion. here, maybe poroshenko, there might be some. i’m avakov, which means we have good relations with them. now i will write to him. naturally. here we no longer need to work, because the work is done for you. the whole thing is a real

person. he will not check poroshenko, is denis real, because she was really interested, she and how once hinted. what's up let's do it let's work together, and she says, i'm still working, still. i have a helper there. we collect references there, we send them all the time. this is all inventing and again to her roll, if there weren’t all such statements of hers, if there weren’t such fakes, then these western partners of ukraine would not supply so many weapons. how much is going there now, when is it a role at all? yes, not the main thing, but in fact, here is a similar information stuffing, they play their role. they play their role, because ukraine is armed in the future and those people who are those parties that used to take a neutral position. when they watch on their television that only barbarians orcs live in russia, that in belarus they definitely didn’t go far. well, they watch it all, and they

begin to believe it. and these are people who hold positions in parliaments. they then vote for it and everything and the weapons go there. this is what they sincerely believe. many what is happening. yes, this is a common technology, but i understand that you do not you can open. but how a prank is born. here you two sit down. yes and talk we need to talk. come on with this. yes, he's interesting. it's public now. he is now, as it were, generating newsbreaks. yes. here you can tell the story of any one, your choice of the most interesting or one of the most interesting rights in general, the methods of communication, that they are different, because there is e, well, we don’t particularly disclose them all, because well, cool. the scheme - this is what people often ask us, so where do you get phone numbers from the special services, right? or people also think that we take it somewhere, well , let's say the fsb gives numbers there. they have

a phone book. there is prince harry billy isley, almighty many journalists have a very good phone book. yes, this is and we say that this is when people say that they can only get it through the special services. this data is now uh like uh, channels have developed in recent years, here are the so-called breaks. just where you can buy information for each person for some small money and these are criminal cases, including in russia this not intelligence agencies. these are just dishonest law enforcement officers. yes, law enforcement decides as it turns out. yes , in our twentieth year, the housing and communal services base and hmm were drained , but we do not use it. we don't buy anything like this. we are pretty open. well, to be honest , people also think the second part, so we got this number and

call at any time of the day and at night we talk to this phone. hello hello. this poroshenko says this, and poroshenko well , of course, let's talk to you. now for half an hour we will be at any time of the day and nights, while talking with a politician, especially there is some large value. it is always quite a long story, because you need to get on the schedule, agreed on a schedule , preparation for this issue, you need to be interesting to your interlocutor. that is, if you declare e to him, but, that is, to a topic that does not concern him at all, most likely, he will not want to communicate, as far as i remember , harry's bird came out through the topic, they say this tumblr. yes, yes, well, then, with the help of greta, we probably had 20 people, and politicians ended up in business hollywood quarterbacks, huh? it is very fashionable to be self-protective. this is a trend that works when some kind of public figure is created , which is also promoted by political technologists and talks about thunberg does not

hide the fact that she is a project of the same soros, and she is not just a political project. she becomes such a secular figure in the media, well, a symbol of certainty and she is promoted as a hero of our time, respectively, here the method was chosen that you want to communicate with the hero of our time, that is, when communicating with authority called political technology. yes, among these people. he just played out from the greeks. there really were a few people there, but maybe three people, who were serious about uh, were involved in ecology, it was interesting for him to communicate, the rest or wanted to play. well, just like there. wow. here's a new star to talk to join, so she came to them and they did. some kind of joint project , the second part - these are people who wanted to promote themselves, especially politics. for example, we scammed harris as vice president

she then ran for the united states, and she, moreover, they sent a separate letter, and you don’t mind, if it means that kamala will talk to greta in her office and at the same time kamala will film this conversation of her cameraman. well, it's understandable, for what, to bring a young audience, which is a fan who plays there. and now, so that they vote, though i'm afraid to ask, which of you was in the role of greta four girls of different, diverse, sensitive control. yes, the father of greece with the guys, so that if anything, control the conversation, so as not to i didn’t go there, especially with politicians, but you never know if a 17-year-old girl is on the phone with some english, that is, english depending on the character, if the conversation is with some specific leader of the state? if they are figures, then here we find translators, as our french translator was a saland, for example, because he speaks english to me at all, that is, you

just stood above your soul and, roughly speaking, dictated what to say? no, we said it ourselves, he was then transported. yes , a professional translator. here, let's a little about the topics. now in the top, for example, nuclear power, but you are not nuclear physicists. i see that in each of your pranks there is a very deep preparation with knowledge of the material, not only the environment of a person. or there his there habits and so on, but also understanding. what is it all about. here is how you approach this and how much the first source has to shovel, if we take some general political stories, then, in principle, it is not difficult, because the energy industry has been doing this for so many years. let's say or there also engaged in nuclear energy and yes, yes, we had such. torture is not a matter until the age of 86. the fact is that here , after all, since the internet now exists, if you skillfully use it, you can find those topics

that are relevant today, yes, and continue to dig further. well, in this or that in this or that issue, because there are some articles of those people who understand this and yet they cook here, of course, yes or, for example , an expert, that is, we can ask for some topics personal questions experts who who sometimes come to our programs. we ask them what worries people now. here in this area, hmm, and we are trying to explain to us something, and what is really, here is the question. what is the conflict here? well, you can name, say, the longest period of preparation for a particular character and name this character with whom he had a conversation. well, let's say now it's hard somehow for bush 2 months. there are three years just there for general training - this is precisely for

the conversation itself, or in general from zero to working out the whole thing. in different ways, well, from the last one, probably a long one - it was a story with prince harry there for 2 months for two months. well, there's more. probably through messengers. you tried to get out. yes, you did. in general, if you mean, the preparation for the study of the material is thematic or something else. well , i think one day is enough. well, if it’s not a very highly specialized topic, you write out something for yourself where some question here is interesting, and how would it be for the audience. well, you read some thematic sites, yes, which it ever played a role. that's it for establishing contact, that you are something important for the interlocutor, it became essential for him to agree to talk.

well, in general, when something is agreed, e is never reported. hmm, relatively speaking, your proposal, the proposal itself, always sounds in the conversation itself; general topics are indicated and why can we start some kind of seed on this topic; networks of this or that policy , we look at what he is now interested in. what topics does he develop? where it attracts attention and accordingly. here, uh, we can also include this topic in our list, what we ask for a conversation is good, everything seems simple, but why do many people still see the kremlin’s hand in your project? impossible because it’s good, because people love conspiracy theories and they it always seems that there is some strong hand behind something. it is difficult to imagine that everything is much simpler and as

it is, therefore, probably, all the same, in the first place. uh. well, because they put themselves in our place, let's say so refuses to admit that let's say sobchak is a project. honestly, i don't know, well, they don't want to admit and the opposition is a lot of many people. they say that we do not cooperate with certain funds. uh, we are not connected with the western secret services at all, and then it turns out that when we manage to communicate with their handlers, everything is revealed. well , let's admit it, after all, your pranks really work very well for propaganda , including not only russian, but also belarusian in the good sense of the word. i would say that they work well in the west, because in the west, in addition to the fact that there are some mainstream media, be it cnn fox news

, there is a very developed alternative point of view in social networks, which is professed by many independent journalists. uh, recently fired and tucker carlson was able to news by the way, one of the k stories he remembered us and then was fired. i think it's not because of this, yes, but this is an alternative point of view, which is not represented in the west. she is popular there in the sense that in social networks, well, they don’t let her be present on main channels. it then goes through the social networks, we open the eyes of those people who, uh, thought that everything was not following, according to these median. here, uh, then, how would you answer the question. can there be patriotism for fun patriotism, maybe in everything? why not? that is, through a joke, including a joke , it can be present in those activities

that are patriotic, well, okay. you called your activity a prank in journalism. at the very beginning of the program, one can deny progress for a long time and wince at mentions. this is artificial intelligence, chat bots, menjor and virgins yes, but you can not slow down and make it work for yourself. here you are not afraid of competition from outside and artificial intelligence. i think it's too early to talk about this at all, because we have our own, uh, principles of work and we can't tell them anywhere. this is not written on paper or on the web, so it is quite difficult to teach artificial intelligence our principles of work. well, we ourselves could, maybe train him somehow, but it would take time, but the opposite side. she doesn't knows how we work. we just

won't know for a long time. yes, in fact, everything is much simpler than it seems, but still , we definitely do not use it. there is simply no such technology that could normally generate an image of a person in real time. the most important thing is on the air, yes, and it is not, so that your fund does not develop from behind. yes, and for a couple of years we have had some programmers. they showed their developments there. well, we actually have a very simple, but designed for a fool, as they say, well, this does not mean that our all interlocutors understand, here probably uh, if hmm the one who, uh, wouldn’t make u believe in himself by his voice, worked, then we wouldn’t have any success, because fakes didn’t help. that is normal. yes, well, then the substantive question. it’s probably simple, but it’s substantive, since it works so well, including on