or they discovered quite recently during a full scan by the liner, the researchers examined on board the tooth of the largest megalodon shark in the history of the planet, it was decorated with gold and carvings. however, due to an agreement between the us and the uk that prohibits getting artifacts from the sunken ship. the necklace was not lifted from the bottom , the only way out is to find an heir who may own the jewelry. more information my colleagues have 15 hours, so i say goodbye to you. all the best. hello greetings to all who are now with we are talking about the main events with alexey dermant and andrey krivoshey, we are very glad

to see you. today we also have a conversation ahead of us today with a russian historian-writer. andrey fursov, finally, andrey ilyich looked into our studio with one word ahead. eh, we are waiting for you, filled with the meanings of the issue. this is where we start the most serious aggravation of the situation in space in recent times , nato international security forces attacked the serbs, who suffered on both sides, as vučić said, the goal is to push serbia and nato aleksey who is the main goal of this phase of the conflict , what do you think, well, i think in general serbia as a certain subject, and who has his own position inside the balkans inside the european continent, that is, the serbs. it is necessary to finally break and kosovo is one of the tools. and they want to bring the situation to the point of hopelessness, so that the serbs have no other option, either to start a war, in fact, or to fully

agree with the conditions that push through the capitals of europe and, naturally, do not pursue their own interests before. they built ethnographic state. at myself. naturally ethnic diversity in the form of the presence of serbs. uh, yes, because the ideology, uh, of this formation does not allow the presence of the serbian population, but it is clear that this is a big game, where , unfortunately, kosovo is an instrument of the goal, serbia needs to be broken and, of course , no russian or chinese influence in the balkans should be allowed to gain a foothold the timing was also not chosen by chance. i think yes they see that russia is distracted by the events in ukraine, uh, china too, probably, this is not the top priority topic for them yet. and in this one, they are trying to varnish. to realize interests as much as possible and, accordingly, this fulcrum yes , because all the same, serbia would anyway be a fulcrum for both russia and china, probably. here they are trying to neutralize this

fulcrum there is another player. uh, aleksey didn’t mention turkey well, of course, because , uh, this lak uh, was not chosen by chance, not only for the reasons that alexei named, but also the elections in turkey, that is, uh, the kosovars and the elite’s cost administrations are more tied up, naturally on turkish elites, turkish money. while the elections were going on in turkey, there was a heavy political company for two rounds, there was just a choice for this period of time in order to get into the kosovo serbian situation, uh, and push through his decisions with his proteges of consent, but i agree to go to serbia to undermine this uh national foundation in the form of the serbian serb minority. now uh, erdogan's victory , i really hope for this, but it will lead to measurement on this earth, since russia , china and turkey are able to stop this region

great bloodshed. well, they laid down the anglo action there for the backfords shnur long ago, and at any opportunity, they would set fire to it, because you need to understand if you won. eh, klych dagu, there would have been a blaze of war. that's why the question is how far. now it can come in. this is the outbreak that we are observing, we are discussing if the russian federation, if turkey, and er, the erdogan administration will find strength. and well, plus there will be no very frank interference from the collective west in the person of kerfor, it seems that there is already one an additional brigade is sent, plus there were statements so restraining, and that they say that the kostovo administration is too zealous, it has begun to establish its own rules, that is, the western elites understand. that with the victory of the rhodogan with the strong position of china and russia , it is not profitable now to aggravate the conflict in the heart of europe? ah, well then, let's go closer to us

, another topic that still attracts attention. here emotions subsided a little after the statement of the general of the former deputy minister of defense of poland a voldemar skshipchik, who said that poland is preparing for an armed coup in belarus, partly in support of it, but by military means, and it is clear that this topic has already been considered from all sides these days. i will not offer to go into any details, but here, it seems to me, there is an important aspect that it makes sense to pay attention to, because this is the very sizzle that occurs at different non- random times. uh, he said strange, but not random things, for example, relatively recently he said this if the war starts without putin's support, 3 days and belarus will be ours. now why did they pull the general up to the microphone? this is the signal he should send us. well, i think it's still a scare tactic. these are, uh, special statements like this to keep us on

our toes. we e were in alarm, including our people. this is psychological warfare. yes , you can say that, and he, of course, is not retired at all. he is no longer a real fighter. yes, on the psychological front, he allows himself such statements, but i have a few phrases there spoke already and after that and said that they say. here belarus has a russian tactical weapon, they say. it doesn't mean anything, because we have allies, and the americans. there are powerful tools. delivery, please. poles, do not worry, but the fact is that here. probably he still, well, again , plays in public, but does not understand. well things, when we see a real threat from poland to their group, which is ready to attack. we're going to put it on preemptively, of course, because we're not going to, relatively speaking, launch the polish army on our territory and will not allow any occupation. there for 3 days and in this case the americans will no longer

intercede. first, it is a conflict of local interests. the united states will be indirectly affected, secondly, well, if there is more aggressor, yeah, we do not violate any polish borders and are not going to do this, therefore, this is an illusion that the americans will stand up for some kind of poland, well, it can be tragic for both poles and for a bugger for everyone, because in all cases, if it starts here such a conflict, for example, more with russia and belarus, the americans will not get into a global nuclear conflict. well, in general, the waldemart dude is ambiguous inside poland, uh, different stories are told about him, well, of course, noisy, but not in all let's say popular circles. i suggest listening to one of the polish experts who expresses. a fairly common opinion of a bugger, please, this polish general was thrown out of the army amid a scandal and claims about the supply of the polish army.

he has been out of office for 10 years. on the other hand, they are very clearly expressed in the media space with their last statement about preparations for an armed coup in belarus and participation in its support by military means. he violated at least three laws, including the criminal code of poland. and this is imprisonment for up to 5 years, but this is a liberal position. yes, the liberal part of the polish expert community and the ruling elite. i would point it out here again. uh, domestic layouts. we don't have to get in. uh, with your head in front of a civilian platform or platform philistine with the right and justice. and since both forces are more or less hostile on certain issues, e, belarusian sovereignty and our national interests, our nation. politics, but still this statement. uh, this retired general is an insane statement, at its core. it fits into

a big conflict between two groups - more liberal more conservative more uh, pro-european more pro-american, and it is no coincidence that this statement is in a row. there is now the polish government, the polish regime. uh, this conservative right declares that they are launching their era of makartism with their mccarthyism, they are already creating a commission there to investigate the opposition’s connection, that is, the platform of the philistine with the russian federation from belarus is directly spelled out there, supposedly. we mean politically corrupted. imagine we belarusians , together with the russian political , corrupted the opposition. naturally. this is a fight from two e, hyenas. e two head hygiene. uh, europe that grappled with each other, because soon there will be elections in poland and need to be blown up. in this regard, the most dangerous is, of course, demonization. uh, belarus demonization of belarusian citizens. and this uh

politics uh, just a geometric progression of the growth of public sentiment in terms of nationalism and chauvinism in polish society. this is dangerous, if, uh, hmm , the majority of the silent polish will be able to swing towards the new, and dash nationalism , nazism, onionazism or chauvinism with a claim to part of the belarusian ukrainian territories. what makes the ruling polish regime? this certainly. well, kazbeli is for war. this is the basis for an ideological war on the other hand, with such statements from poland there should be no questions. why belarus decides to deploy tactical weapons and to the issue of demonization. i congratulate andrey and , together with him, were included in the sanctions lists of the republic of poland with the wording that we represent a very terrible threat to national security and the international situation. the commonwealth is therefore the only thing i want in this regard. here, enjoying with the ether e demand from the polish regime to give me an official document,

because such a document stating that i pose a threat to our security. i have from uh the united states of america from the state department since 2008 from her majesty's british government back then her majesty. here i want to receive documents from the polish regime. of course, i have a free place in the vacant office. that is , we can say that when this was, the eloquent handshake of two presidents in moscow at the eurasian forum. uh, that was a signal too. only this time it was from us. uh to these guys. uh, well, first of all, i think, first of all to friends. it was a signal that our friendship is strong, especially since it sounded like this against the backdrop of the president's words. right there, while i see in kazakhstan yes, and in armenia there are discussions. that's something with you , the union seems to be where the alliance is. well, our president said very clearly. you want some additional guarantees of security, e.g., and territorial

integrity. and in general , joining a common nuclear umbrella will somehow feel more confident. well, the doors are open. yes, while this is mild, let's say it does not arouse enthusiasm in the same kazakhstan, but for now, uh, it is necessary for the client to mature, as they say, yes, but we are calm and respect the position of all our eurasian allies. eh, they have their own nuances of their own problems. thank god we made our own. let's go ahead, we decided in terms of the economy, well, practically, and replacing that, dropping income. yes, we have become closer to russia in the economy and hmm, we are calmly worried. this is unprecedented sanctions pressure. second. we can calmly watch these even not statements. collision, but then , as they really prepare the grouping, we all understand that whatever they do in poland and e nato, yes, it makes no sense, because we

will not spend billions on a mirror response with conventional weapons and building up our army, that is , taking away from pensioners from doctors. yes, to invest weapons. we e make an asymmetric answer, respectively, therefore. and we have such a weapon. ah, but the signal is, firstly, the union is stronger than ever, and we calmly endure all the pressure and integrations open to cooperation with all our partners and friends. just have to wait a bit for now. i think they agree that on the part of the russian federation it was not just a picture. yes, a media one. it was an important political gesture, moreover , aimed not so much at the belarusian society or the belarusian e class , as it is at africa and latin america . , after all , the main thesis that our informational ideological military-political opponents

broadcast both to latin america and to africa and asia that russia is weak, it cannot protect its allies. she throws her allies. and just for this, the example of yugoslavia was most often used. look, yugoslavia can’t do anything about russia to russia now, judging by how i know a little about it, it’s being reformatted and, uh, foreign policy through the ministry of foreign affairs of the russian federation, foreign policy through the ministry of foreign affairs of the republic of belarus to the latin american direction to the american asian, and this gesture was seen we can judge by growth. uh hmm interest in brix here are 11 countries, six of which have already directly declared already considered to have submitted documents to become a member of this association. speaking of military components, indeed. we are not just listening to what the retired generals are doing, but we are also carefully watching the movement. the most important thing in the armaments that the western side is going through is what

is happening on the ukrainian front experience, which needs to be taken into account to adapt their troops. when the drg comes in, for example, there on the territory of the russian federation the day before , the president, when he met with the new head of the state border committee, also spoke about this and set the appropriate task. let's listen. it is very important to develop a new approach to build. maybe not a new system, but it is necessary to pay special attention to improving this system. we are lately . you know that you paid attention to the maneuver groups that should be in each detachment. wherever you are. determine the point should be a powerful fist, which you and the leaders of the detachment can at the right time or chest, there to use border guards in order to block the state border in the event of some emergency situations of attack on the country, the president is absolutely here

, because he argues and acts like an experienced border guard himself, because experience is combined here, just, uh, the soviet border guard guarding the soviet border, when, uh, there are border outposts that block the most dangerous areas, but there are also mobile, these mobile groups reinforced with armored vehicles, uh, which are probably the main antidote from sabotage and terrorist infiltrations by small groups, maybe under their own flag, maybe under a foreign flag into the territory of the republic, belarus well, the creation of this border special forces, what is it called? mostly doctors. of course, we are journalists so simplified, but nonetheless . this is also important. step. it's a record of all those, uh, painful mistakes. which our neighbors, in particular the russian federation, did. we saw this for us not just already there, these crazy polish generals

are declaring what it is, perhaps, to us already, uh, showed this collective west on the example of the belgorod kursk region, how can this be? yes? is there another one? the topic and i may be, then i’ll explain why it took a hitter today to hmm mention him, although it would seem in the past days, but everything about him that can be said. uh, the fact is that this is a very good example, and an example of the provocation strategy that the west has armed itself with and which well, with which we will be dealing for a very long time. this is like an attempt to find some limits. here, how far. they can come in because the word is red line. it seems to me that you just need to remove it, it disqualified everything, therefore, i use the word limits. here are some examples of our colleagues. now here are russian experts and journalists, they are discussing the prospects. the rates of f-16 aircraft for the apu and argues in this vein? well, yes, you need to train pilots, but you must not forget that, in addition to pilots

, you need to train the maintenance personnel that this aircraft will maintain , you need the airfield from which they will fly. and so, then they go towards poland, they think , but what is their logic to them, and with this constant groping for limits, it will prevent them from placing these aircraft at airfields in poland; they took off from the bombs and returned to poland. here, our russian colleagues are discussing whether, in this way, polish airfields, polish territory becomes a fair target for the russian federation. do you think this , including questions about tactical nuclear weapons, is somewhere around the limit when we say no, stop. now we are applying. unfortunately, maybe this is such an unpleasant true, but until the moment when in the west , in poland, in the usa, in britain, he does not feel direct damage, painful, but for himself this will all continue. i do not presume to give advice on how this damage can be done to russia, because there are specialists there, there are enough of them. there may be an airfield, or there may be

a transatlantic cable. well, there are many options. i think pipelines will be found. yes, well, that's where they swim, but that's the question. so they believe that they are raking in the heat with the wrong hands no discomfort. elites do not test for themselves. well, let's say the population they also convinced that, in general, it’s somewhere, so i don’t know what kind of population. here are all the sociological surveys in germany, er, in scandinavia, show that society is far from being as militarized as, alas. that anti-war movement is the head of the german foreign ministry, who declares that she does not care about the opinion of the german people, and she will pursue the foreign policy that is agreed, to put it mildly, with the atlantic partner, to whom the anti-war movement in germany was in during the cold war. no, it means them. well in in general, the will of the population was also suppressed. yes, er, well, it must be admitted obviously. i would like , of course, uh, our like-minded people,

anti-fascists ah, pacifists. yes, they somehow showed themselves there, but we see that this does not happen like this until the moment when the elites of the country of the state do not feel it. here is the effect of something painful for yourself. they will do anything on the territory that is more than ukraine or russia, so, alas, this is the logic and the red line is precisely in this. that's when this painful effect for them will come. and how do we continue metaphorubals? yes, so far from this. tomorrow , his pith helmet won't come off, and he won't really feel it. uh, the threat of arrival is on you. there's a tomahawk or arrows in your own throat. he, of course, will set fire to the jungle so that these inhabitants of the jungle would fight among themselves, because for them, by the way, for the americans, the president of belarus is talking about this for the americans and the european union. the same jungle is only a little more understandable, familiar to american foreign policy.

in fact, the jungle is also there, and if you can sacrifice a pawn there, kosovo a pawn, and montenegro a pawn of poland, even pawns of the baltic. e in the emirates as it is now fashionable to say, but for the growth of conflicts within the jungle, but in the meantime, while barren flies around moscow and the moscow region. we saw the day before the minister of defense said that they only hit civilian targets. and vladimir putin, i commented on this situation and said that the main thing is to sow fear. this is a weapon of terrorism. nothing but terrorism. well, here it is very important that people reflect in this way that it was. what is the main goal? we already hear in the comments that people are saying that the main goal is to play on the nerves of patient moscow to return to this very question, where is the red line and how to behave in such a situation. see? uh-huh, the russian authorities explain this attack on moscow with a swarm of drones of a massive attack

by the fact that before that strikes were very effective, including on ukrainian military intelligence. well, i don't know, in my opinion. still, the main goal is to sow panic among muscovites partly. e, judging by media resources, and even discarding all these bath farms and cheating from the point of view. eh, informational psychological special operations are still a blow to moscow and muscovites, the moscow region, and even more so for those regions over which these drones flew, before reaching moscow, after all. this is a serious distance. of course, president vladimir putin said this , work will be done on the bugs on the other side. we discussed this at one of your programs. i then i dared to argue with a number of very experienced military experts that under this famous, already infamous ukrainian counter-nave, ukraine received technologies and weapons that hmm well, sometimes it is an order of magnitude ahead of everything that

the ukrainian regime had previously disposed of, and since it does not have any stopcocks of red lines, and he very often shows his terrorist information, including the essence, but he did not fail to use this weapon. i just think it was a false start for the ukrainian regime. they should have logically their sponsors. they were supposed to use this arsenal, unexpectedly for the russian federation, in the format of a counteroffensive, drowned. well, in the meantime, the americans are not shy. we are talking about the former polish general here, and here are such statements. when they met senator lindsey graham, they could not get enough of zelensky. how good it is to work in american investments, when a russian is dying after, uh , a noise that has risen, the senator came to his senses and said that it was all the fault of the installation, but you have to understand that the people of kiev installed it this way and something tells me that they conveyed the essence accurately. and that's what this story is for you in general, well, this is a story that clearly shows

american cynicism is not shy about telling the truth. yes, he told the truth. yes, they do what they want, and in fact, i would not be happy, but not in the place of the same zelensky, not in the place of the ukrainians, because tomorrow, when the power ends, he will say, well, alas, we made a mistake, the startup did not work out. we are going to another part of the world. that is. well, as it was in afghanistan, therefore this investment, of course, in death in the blood. nothing will turn out for ukraine, not for from this elite, which i now control , but once again it shows us who the americans are, what their motives are, but investments, what they are pumping weapons into, but at the same time the military-industrial complex itself due to the fact that germany of europe was cut off by the organizations of the russian state, that is, they were put on their knees , de-industrialization actually begins. everyone was happy being filmed by the americans, that is from that point of view. yes

, this is a very profitable business for america, but what probably, after all, we have always been different, our position is still moral. and why is it even responding to this attack with drones? let him say very important information that provokes us to a mirror answer, so that we conditionally bomb cities, but kill civilians, that is , the goal of the americans is to arrange this as much as possible, so that the peoples completely disperse, but we will not do this, especially the position of belarus here . there has always been peacekeeping, especially in the slavic world, especially with ukraine, but we must understand what we are being led to and, uh, what we should not follow. yes, you need to strike , i won’t say at the decision-making centers, yes, at those points, points where the terrorists really sit and give orders, so the attacks are on military intelligence. they are understandable to ukraine

but the main thing is not to slip. here in this american business and this is our strength and this is the key to victory, another very interesting point, nothing really new, but still interesting, apparently, the anglo-saxons in ukraine have the most versatile plans. so they dragged the war declared a campaign against orthodoxy. and now, in general, a logical continuation of all this transgender. sarah ashton cyril , that is, not a man and not a woman clearly designated or designated or designated now the beginning here i do not understand honestly, so i will proceed from the name like this. here she outlined the goals of ukraine in the war against russia. this is a transgender. sarah cited this victory will strengthen the lgbt community around the world, because there will be one less country that will be able to persecute ukrainian lgbt members, we intend to inflict the russian occupier. so revolutionary

defeat, that russia itself will have to look inside itself, the devilry. this is, uh, satanism and this is sodomy in the truest sense of the word, and uh, any christian, in general any person. uh, monotheist books. eh, tell you this. i want the people of kiev to hear this, uh, to hear normal sane ukrainians. so that they understand this, that orthodoxy is from the cradle from the cradle of christianity. they want to make them out of a simple stronghold of our eastern christianity. uh, chunks of meat that mate with the most perverted ways that live uh, lack of spirituality, going in its development is not up. yes, the temple, it's up and going down just in the dirt in the dullness in the decomposition into degradation, but on the other hand. eh, ukraine

is also in this sense the point of such a global break between, well, somehow enlightened conservatism and between liberal fascism. this is how the rift goes around the world, it goes through the turkish elections and through us, through our education, through our society. he is now going in a bloody version through ukraine, he is going through western europe and through the vatican passes from moscow, uh, and through uh, well, the whole world, but it really needs to be said that thanks to such a refined agenda, the americans drew this bold line and showed that they exist, if there is another world that is there for traditional values , so that this equal and fair world finally comes for everyone there is a chance in general for this equal peace or moment putin no now, uh, the struggle has begun the most acute for him , of course, we are in the initial phase, but by indirect signs, by such a nervous reaction

of the united states we see that they are far from confident in their abilities. and even more so , new giants are growing. yes, and in asia and africa it is different, yes, the arab world, which there was largely guided by, let's say, by the voices, it absolutely now behaves differently and is happening. well, such tectonic changes. and who would have thought that the iranians saudi arabia in china there, yes, that india is very reserved and rather sympathetic. but i would now return to the previous topic and would allow myself to be a little ironic about uh. e, relatively speaking, here are the ukrainian nationalists there, yes, who consider themselves the defenders of the ukrainian state. here. uh, what they are fighting for, they are actually fighting for the lgbt. yes, these guys, there is a courageous macho , who are there, it means that the nation is over, really your brave boys yes, but i

say, here is the goal of all of them that the situation will turn out. as a result, and half of them will simply die, but remain in power. those who bring lgbt people and that's it. this is a perversion and ukraine will still be a field for experiment. that is, simply, if you think rationally, and they will lose in this war. anyway exactly. here is the metaphysical spiritually. they can inflict painful blows to russia, but here is the ultimate goal of the eye with such a one on the ruins of ukraine, if they leave it here, yes, and they will say, well, let's say in russia. well, that's all, we have achieved our goals by some people who are engaged in whatever you want, and they will raise the lgbt flag there, and all these nationalists of these hurray patriot veterans will simply be merged, uh, they will be disposed of and they will say everything. thanks friends. you fought for what we wanted. and now we no longer need your services business transformation is closing. this is the entrance to the new world. he

through which through the brix through it, and the eu will occur. they have enough potential to grow from regional to such global platforms. you know, there is already some convergence of all these platforms in general. we see that interaction is intensifying in the eu, no matter what they said, but the integration processes are developing dynamically and certain problems are being solved. although they exist and will be, they are already well-established conglomerates. a state that has the economic dimension of the eu military-political dkb and this is the core, as a union state that generally holds this structure. well, in such a strong format, there is a rapprochement with the chinese initiative. that is, on the one hand, the sco. this is a common frame, the belt and the path of the brix economic frame, that is, these formats will be combined with each other. and this is already happening. and therefore, yes, the process, well, it has just begun for a long

time, but i am sure that there is no alternative to this, because all countries understand the world is already shifting somewhere, and only america will not dominate there, and all these signals from different sides are not only there scatter ukraine and on the edge of the conflict. see what's happening in finance, how the dollar is being replaced. and this is the most terrible shock for america will be when it all turns into a real alternative system, which is supported by many many countries. just all these formats that sounded here. or they perform slightly different tasks. this is approximately the same as the union state of the eurasian economic union of the cis in the sco. uh, so that our viewers understand this is about security and about logistics. these are the two main brix - this is the economy. global. these are currencies, these are financial systems and this is trade that unites latin america, africa and asia, greater asia , and brix, since india and china are located there

, is a much more powerful bloc now, than the whole from an economic point of view, than the entire collective west from the usa to japan and australia, therefore, different tasks are solved for me here, as for a citizen of belarus and a belarusian. the most important. what place will belarus take in all these integrations? national interests in the field of economy and in the field of security, in the field of trade and in the field of logistics, because all these areas are for us. development means development what the president was talking about: development of expanding the possibilities of our sovereignty in the economy in transport in finance and so on , it is not by chance that the president said on this large eurasian platform that he met with nabiullina. here he said that it is important to understand this, where tomorrow they will step. ah, digital currencies. it is important for us to understand how it will be formed. here in this large transnational format. basket of reserve currencies, what will be the currencies? or

maybe we should switch to new standards already. here in this now, but, if you like, the cornerstone of the future world, of course. the west understands this, of course. the west will fight this. and when we talk about the transition of a lot of the polar world, you need to understand that never in the history of mankind has remade spheres of influence happened peacefully at the negotiating table or er. in some in the format of a secret tea party or and so on. no, he comes through. on the ruins of the former of the world, unfortunately, thank you very much to our guests for participating in the program with us were alexei german and andrey krivosheev, as always topical exactly thank you for this, but with our viewers. we do not say goodbye in a couple of minutes , talking with andrey fursov about those who are pulling the strings behind the scenes. and where they are trying to bring into the world and all of us.

traveling recharges, broadens one's horizons and fills one with the love of life. today i arrived in one of the youngest cities in belarus , which was built on the shores of the white lake together, we will visit the berezovskaya power plant , i have a feeling that we are in the control center. i don't know , we will visit the unusual museum of stones with some spaceships. what an ancient wonder man. i think it's a girl. look how beautiful her outfit is, i especially like the patterned top. let's get acquainted with the people's father, damn it, peskovsky veselukhina and find out. how difficult is kayaking. i am no more. see in the program the route

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our vast information ocean from rarely you will find an expert so that you can present it to a wide audience, you can simply do with the name and surname without numerous regalia to strengthen authority. today, in our program, it is such a guest andrey fursov , his books, lectures, speeches on the internet, as well as publications in the telegram channel have collected a huge audience of those who want to see the essence of the processes, look beyond the event horizon and even understand their place in this cycle of cause and effect. andrey ilyich looked into our studio and that's what kind of conversation turned out andrey personally, firstly, we are very glad to see you. uh, in minsk, not virtually via skype, but live, as people say. ah, but even when you show up here through this new

opportunity digital people are watching people are waiting, so thank you for taking the time to invite us. uh, many, of course, questions. take this opportunity to. i would like to discuss with you, but if you allow me, i will start with a topic that, one way or another , all conversations have lately rested on. this, of course, is sparking tension around ukraine, but in this case i am interested. uh, another trend is that more and more leaders are trying to integrate precisely into the peace initiative. here we remember, at first it was belarus, then there turkey proposed china, now latin america represented by brazil, there is south africa trump generally regularly says that if he were president, then the 24-hour war stopped would, but when you start to look back at everything that happens, you catch yourself thinking, what? you can’t answer the question, but today it’s really possible to extinguish this incredible inertial war. well, there are two aspects here - the russian aspect and the western aspect,

as one economist friend of mine said, and the one in the west who will immediately try to stop his war. it’s just that your rebate is being rolled up, because the hydrocarbon complex is the us military-industrial complex of the us and the collective west and the financial sector. well they earn a lot of money. now, in the hostilities , oil prices have jumped. and the military-industrial complex, uh, feels great, so to speak, so it’s impossible to pay off all this at once . this is despite the fact that there is certainly a part of the western, ruling elites who are purely for economic reasons. uh, they are interested in stopping this conflict because, uh, a sharp strengthening of the position of, say, the hydrocarbon complex or, uh, the military-industrial complex complex, it upsets the balance, uh, in the balance of power. here in this uh pyramid of the world top, i would say in the industry

pyramid and industry is a pyramid. so it looks like this from the point of view. that's to say the industry. well up in terms of. ah. well, so to speak, the most advanced areas. this top is now called in the west by exists from the word kurtosis access, these are the controllers of social networks, and digital platforms are people. well, so to speak, type of super-running. ah. yes, absolutely true, but, that is, these are people who control, in marxist language. in it , the economic factor of production, which become solvable, even a non-material factor production, because capital is realized labor. so the next and the next step is yes, they somehow remain in the shadows with us. although now more and more often they began to write about black roco, vangard - this is the next one, the next step - this is financialism not to be confused with financial capital. although they kind of coincide, like circles of eulers,

financierolism is part of the part of the financial sector that makes money out of thin air. that's just out of thin air, because the financial sector cannot work, for example, in industry and invest. e funds into the real economy, or, as lindglush used to say, the physical economy, then hmm , what is going on is what the technotronic called in life. and this is the chemical industry. electronic industry. further. just say the industry is heavy. and everything that made america great from the thirties to the eighties. and this is what trump hoped for as he said make america great, uh, here. well, then, uh, the sector is agrarian, so to speak, and there are structures on the side, like mont, because i am all products and big farma big farma big farma logically refers to technotronics, but the steering wheel, which is prepared for her by the ultra globalist elite. this is the creation of a situation where

people need to be vaccinated all their lives and, uh, big farm makes money on this. hmm, in terms of such uh global plans. they occupy a very important place, but recently, especially after and during kavid. big-pharma sharply, this sector, this industry has sharply strengthened its position, because from the eighth to the 14th year, and big-farm earned a lot, you can say, they went earnings up and then they went down , and suddenly covid happened, and they went up , not everyone liked it, so in december of the twenty-first year, in fact, the end of the pandemic was announced in the twenty-second year. and also such an interesting moment for us, because we are talking about our neighbors completely. it can be seen that the british americans are now betting on poland because it is well, we see, it is she who allows herself to simply insolently expose something to germany this is in continuation of what you already said, but they are reckless, judging by

pumping up military muscles. i think that many people inside poland understand this, what can this lead to? well, recently. i think you heard the former e there, the deputy minister of defense was thinking about how they would arrange a revolution in belarus and enter there with polish troops, like the washingtons. london is going to play this polish card, you know. i think that washington and london have somewhat different plans for eastern europe, ah. considering that here is the old globalization ended, by the way, it was recognized at the meeting of the tripartite commission at the end of, uh, twenty-one. it is clear that the tripartite commission is the same as the club of rome. well, if you are very rude, these are two corpses that they forgot to bury. but nevertheless, they still, so to speak, the patient breathes a little, is more alive than dead, and here at the meeting of the tripartite commission, uh, which was created in the early seventies to support america, which was heading into

a crisis to support america through the efforts of japan and europe before all of germany so, uh it was fixed that the old globalization, in which it was assumed that everyone would be fine. it is over and a new globalization. it will be a zero-sum game. that is, if something is added to someone, then someone will decrease and there is one more thing, the old globalization. despite the fact that it was directed, it was the weakening and destruction of states, but nevertheless the state somehow existed in it the basic units of the new globalization, if it takes place, it will be the so-called macro, zone and macro. china has a zone, the us has a bank, well, india has a zone. something similar to a macron, but the uk does not have its own macro-zone, they need to create it before the traditional zone of interest. hmm great britain was and was the southern part of china. but their allies in china are the so-called komsomol members. these are representatives

of natives. uh, one of those families who, since the early days of the war of 1830, have had the closest ties to the british establishment. here hmm they ee si and shanghai, so to speak, won and hardly eh. do you remember how khudzal was taken out. and this is a symbol. and komsomoltsev here. there is one more thing needed here. do. the chinese know this. the fact is that people in russia, the former soviet union , they proceed from what the party said , the komsomol must answer yes, that is, the komsomol is the younger brother of the party is very young, but in china it was not so. the fact is that in china the communist party and the komsomol arose almost simultaneously. why in different parts of the country in the south of the komsomol so to speak in the north, huh? their party and relations are very, very complex, including they are tied to different ethnic components. hmm, that is, the british need to create their own macron. and at they have a zone of influence. uh, this is the planada of the persian gulf emirates of the persian

gulf, but for the macro zone. this is the only one. uh, the territory that pulls on the macron. this is eastern europe because of the caucasus hmm and the british have two projects. uh, that is , britain is such a spider that runs around, and another fat spider watches him, he doesn’t like everything, because he pays attention. for example, the gur main intelligence department of ukraine is british. and the sbu is the americans here. and so, they have, uh, and contradictions and it is clear that they say this is an anti-russian force, but they also have their own, and contradictions , and very serious ones, and they always were and always have to be remembered that the main reason for the second world war is britain, american contradictions. are they nothing else hitler - that's already, so to speak. here is a bargaining chip in the game of the british and americans. they are very clever. hmm, they will play it, that they want to throw e at us or now? so, look at the two projects that the british are trying to implement using their long-standing ties with poland. first

- this is a new speech, pospolit. yes, but the fact is that without belarus, without belarus, without the republic of belarus, this option will not work. it seems surprising at first glance, because poland is a big ukraine , lithuania and belarus with 10 million people, but without belarus this option is not danced, so an attempt to overthrow the regime of alexander grigoryevich lukashenko was an attempt. to clear away the link that hinders this, which means that poland also has a very big role to say here, and the poles. now make the same mistakes that their elite , more precisely, the ruling stratum, which they made in the thirties, when churchill called the hyena of europe well, they are now trying. also become e cut the gene project 2:0. i think that this will end very, very badly for them, and the second option that the british are trying to implement is, uh, big turan, but now it’s again, and the american and british plans in turkey have crashed against recep erdogan,

who is playing his game, although it is completely clear that hmm, this is it. hmm well, a new one, so to speak, the turkish knot. it was a very clear project, with which the british and americans cooperated much more than about. here is eastern europe as well a few years ago. uh, almost at the same time , the huskies were appointed the chief of the cia and moore was appointed the chief. mi-6, both worked in turkey in azerbaijan, i then said it was not necessary to be a government here, what is the next problem for us to say is armenia azerbaijan , so to speak. here is karabakh, but a similar situation was when you decide when hmm west decided to break the social, the brzezin camp through poland suddenly appeared next to uh, hmm reagan, wojtyla appeared in the vatican, suddenly a lot of irish catholics appeared near reagan , so these movements are not

random, and they will work in this direction. just judging by that, it is worth the frenzy, and which the british demonstrate their rhetoric. they don't do very well. here, otherwise they would have behaved a little differently , they won’t come out. they don't dance. this, by the way, makes them rather dangerous, because with that low level of the ruling layer that is now in the uk i mean clerks, like rhinestones i have a very low opinion of margaret thatcher but compared to johnson's trails. well, thatcher is just a giant, but nevertheless, if he is fat and swab-knocks down, china, er, but we are all now watching, will not arrive. also for being praised by people like schwab and kissenger. now they are talking about the conflict over taiwan could happen this year? no? no, i don't even think about it. no, it can't happen this year. no, theoretically you can imagine everything, anything, but there are things more probable and less

probable. the thing is, uh, not china , not america for economic reasons, and this conflict doesn't need a degree of contradiction, but between china and the united states. she is sharp, but she is not so terrible that these two say that the ruling elites of these two states. they grappled with saying while in ukraine. besides, you know, the chinese have such, uh, so to speak, sanshi saying to eat slowly, like a mulberry worm appears flattery, they will work. eh, so quiet. if only one thing happens, what will make them? well, for example, not to attack china is to lose face. well, that if not attack taiwan it will lose face. so i think that this year there is hardly anything to expect here. here. i would just like to clarify, in general, an amazing virus-covid, because it turned out that the only cure against

it is war, that is, on february 24, 22 , the need for masks there instantly disappeared vaccines, but before that, back in december, a magazine of icons that belongs to three groups , the maternity hospital, the fabian society, the family was barely, but they simply said that the pandemic would end next year. why they don't need it now, but the fact is that this is a very interesting question. and, to be honest, i didn’t think that these are all measures, and anti-covid ones cause such resistance of the population in the west. i thought that the population was already combed so much that, so to speak, such a layer endured, which would not react, so to speak, but reacted this is one reason. the second reason lies in the fact that this jerk of the pharmaceutical industry and the financial sectors related to it, well, breaks a certain balance in e. it is in this whole structure that the third reason lies. here is the indirect answer to it. e, i gave one event in december 21

, which in our country seemed not e illuminated and unilluminated. this so-called teaching of the collective power in israel you in jerusalem generally loves such teachings. they call them events. well, for example, in 2019 in october. a gates conducted the eventukh exercise. andrew event 21, uh, which were dedicated to the fight against the coronavirus pandemic. well, whose ordered in 3 months to receive a coronavirus pandemic collective forces. that’s what it was about, but it was about the fact that, well, it was de facto recognized that covid cannot solve pandemics. can't solve those problems, ah, they can't justify this financial bubble -bursting financial bubble, something more serious is needed, speaking of which. uh, here are the teachings in the twentieth year in

russia was invited to israel on the 19th. china was not invited to israel, and it became clear that something was being prepared that they were ready to hang on china or russia, and it is very interesting that immediately after the teachings of these collective forces , ukraine began pumping weapons. and uh, this hysteria has begun in the west that russia will definitely attack ukraine. that is, a whole range of reasons, uh, so to speak, suspended despite the fact that now this one more geys cariatures, said that well, yes, he must do it say he must scare the vaccines, which, to be in action, to frighten the population, to devour the population in a state of stress , to justify their existence quite right. well, then they are in the pocket of big farm, and they gave. he must work. after all, who is hybridus , and this is an ethiopian trotskyist known for his corrupt activities, a scandalous character

, gates’s favorite, because uh, i think when the gate looked at the dossier he said, but we need such people in our man. yes? well, it 's clear that so to speak, it will be like this scarecrow, they will continue it. here, well, and here, uh, after the collective force, the next event was very interesting, and which also allows us to understand the logic. it's january 25th. a very interesting document appeared on the net 25-22 years ago, before the document appeared, it was made public . hmm this is a document prepared by a corporation. rn it was called saving america weakening germany i think you've seen it. yes, they told. uh, there's a thesis for that next first thesis. uh, the united states of america is their economy. can only save financial infusions from the outside material and financial, that is, capital must come running there, but the only source. where can hydrol come from? this is the european union, the stumbling block is germany what needs to be done to

stop germany from being a stumbling block ? so it is necessary that russia and germany quarrel and grapple somewhere, where in ukraine after that i spoke with a document, i quote almost verbatim, which means, uh, we need to create a situation when russia will forced to send its troops to the territories of the imprisoned republics. after that, sanctions will be imposed on it, when putin will introduce counter -sanctions, from which germany will suffer the most disproportionately compared to the rest of the european union and capital will run and capital will run grinch is huge thank you to our program. great pleasure, thank you very much. with andrei ilyich, when you are trying to understand, the world has already reached the bottom in order to push off or the immersion continues. suddenly you catch yourself thinking that in anticipation of the best or in fear of

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