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Understanding 9/11tv [untitled] BELARUSTV June 8, 2023 12:20am-1:11am MSK
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from the book she is like an epigraph, well, explain your idea. you understand that, mmm, translators, because they approach the original differently, it’s one thing to translate, say, from russian into belarusian from belarusian into russian. this is a very close language, and then one can demand that there be an almost identical similarity of what the poet said to everything that came out in translation. and if the languages are distant, then i translate a lot of poets of the caucasus of dagestan there, there are generally rhymes. no, there is something completely different in the original. well, it doesn't sound right. how is it do? fah there russian poetry is what you think. but what to leave? what should come sometime i still know the people's fighter. in short, nevertheless, panchenko, who, when i was very young, took care of me, he told me that in translation it is necessary to preserve the essence of the main thing, and then already then i don’t understand what
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pushkin is wrong about, he did the same thing . there it was very far in terms of form in terms of metrics in general. well, there, too, everything over the shape of the glass was abandoned in favor of the content of the drink. there must still be a proportion of a glass - this is in second place, the vocal remains a glass. but here, while it is not necessary to keep your form here. here, perhaps, even such a cup, but uh no, and what bouquet did you collect in love, there are a lot starting from antiquity. yes, through the renaissance there are practically not all european countries and latin america there is chile there is mexico there is spain and russian behavior the book is thin and all collected. well, i don’t have a lot, i
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have one or two love poems, well, okay. first of all, when i started translating at all. i only translated a love poem. well say how to confess without this years, because you are some kind of allegorical. it's something so tender, somehow the approach needs to find a name. i like it, and if we are talking about belarusian poetry, you probably translated belarusian poets, then what drink is associated with birch sap, mmm, if you remember bogdanovich if you remember, i’m not a seeker, remember my beloved yanka with a chip, if anything, i at least modern slags no viktor shnip. these are wonderful craftsmen. wonderful poets, like in whom hmm she's like a spring she's exactly like pure silk. well, if it's all the same with alcohol and drinks,
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because the present time is already in today's youth. well, what is more like moonshine very often. this is somewhat understated. probably because, well, somehow people do not consider themselves obligated to know literature, not considering themselves obligated to read something at all before declaring that they are on this one. maybe you know such a conflict between fathers and children forever no. yes no, i, as it were, panchenko, maybe also at the beginning told you that you brought moonshine here. no, no, no, fingers, just the first of their book, which publishers would have killed and asked to give it to him, read it very carefully and wrote a five-page recommendation by hand. i still keep. i have it. these are recommendations. you are a publishing house and said it, like they will quickly publish it. i brought at my place i was told at our place good evening. i was told that we have
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one author who came from hand, and there were also recommendations from mikhalkov sholokhov in the course, maybe decent, i understand, and why not, but i didn’t argue, they said, well , in general, the book, of course, came out, but after a few years of the caucasus, which you already mentioned in this case, with what drink could you compare. a lot more can even be compared, maybe with a drink, because this is not georgia and not armenia where is the cognac there ? such. nowhere else. the most interesting thing in the same place is the languages of the state 14 languages, a in general, there are several dozen languages and there are no sizes. yes, that is, this is how she is, in general, inner consonance has
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a lot of inner music there, but it must be translated into russian. uh, very difficult. somehow i started doing this. i realized that first you need to read the story. you need to understand the customs of the culture of these people, and then take on the work and two more new books appeared in your book this year. tell about them. well, it came out just a few days ago. i still have only signal copies. book. just belarus this is mine the first book is easy. literary-critical articles, well, in general, i'm not a prose writer, but some stock of borderline works. i have gathered for life. and then it just happened. the first book of prose in my life.
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yes, i had publications that were scattered in translation. and why don't prose attract you to this, well, how does it not attract you. eh, they say that the harsh years have passed on me and the years and not all the years, but it seems to be all. well, in general, you probably need to have a different temperament to be, because i even here to our young people who come to me in the magazine. and it's just advice. i say, you don’t have to be a genius, you didn’t need to be fat, take a pen and copy by hand, four volumes of war and peace, or you will understand what a prose writer is simply, except for what has formed in your head, for example, what do you want to say? this still needs to be stated. i don't know how the classics wrote, when you have to do it with a goose quill and after each letter wave something that this is some kind of distraction into the inkwells. e maneuvers, like in social networks internet and other entertainment. they had balls, and this was still
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noble literature of the lords. russian classics. in the same place , in general, there were no poor people, but there was no electricity. well, there is not enough light. how much, uh, when electricity is no light time, and in winter imagine you have to write a little pushkin never saw a light bulb did not travel by train. didn't speak on the phone. i didn't know what the internet was and didn't see tv, didn't see movies , and was a genius for all time. it turns out this is why, and in the third book still haven't mentioned it. it still hasn’t reached me, but i know that she’s already left the photographs, she’s not being printed here, well, this book is poetry, it’s good, i ’m approaching there alone and there were sometimes, well, in general, such book should be. here you will literally analyze what it will be called. sorry from them is called
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the air say it again, don't be silent. our guest today is the poet, winner of numerous literary awards, anatoly avrutin. anatoly yurievich well, you, our life does not consist only from white stripes, and this year in february you lost a great friend of the national poet of dagestan magomed akhmedov in social networks you published. ah, a poignant poem in memory of him. read to us. they wrote literally 20 minutes after we knew that he was sick. he's still the last time.
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and the soul screams all the way. where are you with your magicians forever? you wrapped it in it and repeated it. are you waiting for the city to shelter you forever? where are you magomed to all friends who did almost like khayyam was the forerunner of rasul mahmud you drank friends will wait didn't listen, you where magomed just don't put me in response somewhere crying well waved and tears will crawl on the glass, because from ailments west under weightless magomed left in the front row. well, i'm still waiting for the liners. his conclusion is piercing and in this poem is called the heir to the tradition of gumilyov to put in one row and was very fond of being a deeply national avar poet. he was very fond of the russian classic. he
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also idolized gumilyov, or especially lermontov , the khazrakat monks, and he had lermontov in his many verses pass, they reciprocate, we know that mikhail yuryevich also loved the caucasus, therefore he is loved in the caucasus. yes , they are very proud of the fact that even though lermontov died in the caucasus, it was not the highlander who killed him. hmm, they are very proud. but tell us how you got to know this region during your trips to dagestan. well, at first you met in minsk , he came here. and before that, there was also an extramural chetan element. we have dagestan e in our faith, with the artist, the poet sadulaev khizri m. everyone knows him. how many folk people's artist of dagestan, chechnya constantly uh, fly back and forth her. he talked a little. i translated his book. the first
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of the caucasian authors translated it, and then he did not care. well, why don't you go to makhachkala, for some reason, the festival, in fact, is far from difficult and difficult and may not be necessary. well , why did he somehow e brought here in this? magomedovich published a book. we met here, somehow, when he invited me to the festival. well, my wife and i were driving. we flew in and i was surprised. i personally came to the airport by car to meet me. i thought it was at its best in case someone will be sent. no, he personally came and everything is the way they meet, that they, well, according to tradition, they can have a table there. tell why a belarusian should go to makhachkala , that he will see festivals there, as they show, dagestan there is an event taking place. there they carry on various points in the mountains to the villages. in general, it performs there.
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people gather there and listen. do you read poetry in russian there and they listen to gifts somewhere in dagestan? yes, the russian language in dagestan is russian. now the situation is the same as that the children are caucasian, they are the best russians. unfortunately know, uh. unfortunately for the older generation. i don't know, uh, better than their own languages. you see, you were very worried about magomed akhmedov in the same way that you were worried about him teaching rasul gamzatov there were such lines. if tomorrow we pagan disappear, i'm ready to die today, but still. here are the avar ones, of course, there are still great languages \u200b\u200bthat exist, but oh, the less young people are, but they are used. and what do belarus and dagestan have in common with you, for you to note? i think that our peoples are drawing closer. here purity of soul and decency. here we don’t
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accept the fact that these are some there, what are called european values, and in dagestan they are, uh, don’t come up with this life. here i still have such a poetess that the war is kyubekov, she is a writer who writes in a very rare tabasaran language 150,000 saranians there, but they are also close-knit, they are very proud people and so, uh, she is already older. just a man has already told her husband to bury the children to raise. well, she 's never eaten in her life. guilt says i don't know what such wine. i don’t know any taste, uh , it’s impossible for a muslim woman, that she is so combative, she is very active, they came to moscow when last year there was an exhibition of books. well, come on, she comes, the belarusian pavilion looks, what is there says, uh, i want to buy this book betrothed
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, we don’t have it. and this, why did you come here and come back in honor of the dagestan delegation ? well done, yes, but you said combat, that is. she can be fighting muslim women. is the first thing i ask when we start talking is still texting her he wears dagestan and everything. so he will get it. ha ha, well i would like to talk about horses. now you will understand, what is it about to strike across russia, a red mad horse and a white mad horse are rushing into the ashes , turning the country into ashes. well, you use rather sharp metaphors, and in what period do you write and what is the purpose? put it in front of you when it is sharply drawn like this. attention is with me
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, as it were, itself, but the fact is that it is also clear there that this is russia russia red white russia ended up with the fact that in one case, and in another pissed off. well, i decided, when there is a war, when there is a civil war, when on the fishme of strength there i say that something is normal , well, that's what it is in ukraine. this is a difficult question. i still understand this. let's see how it ends. the main thing is to finish soon. but still, uh, do you think that now russia is going through a period of such a civil war, now it’s not in this form, but it can break out, for example, as a result of the same ukrainian events, because after all, there are a lot of victims already and not hide more than in afghanistan much. he recently told the parishioner that 20,000 people died near artyomovsk alone, and only at his place. so this is and where there is no victory? well
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, there are some, if they already have only the regions of russia shelling the belgorod region, it is generally difficult and they are waiting for victories. and like here's a poet. as a prophet, are you trying to warn people? yes, in front of this grief, which they can carry themselves on both sides, and there was no aside, do not pity others. this is what should be in the first place. line of civilians. children should not be burned down at home in our time of the 21st century all of a sudden. and all of a sudden, god forbid that this is not transferred to belarus. today we read you, we will quote some fatigue from politics where the stormy pine trees sullenly
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shroud the side on an uneven clearing with the same child's hooves. he is not white, not red, he is a morning crow. uh, is it true that you are tired of civil strife. and who is tired, in my opinion, in society, so many upheavals over the past four or five years there, that long ago i want rest and peace. well, you understand that sometimes they impose these times on us when we are shocked, that it’s not us who don’t decrease them, we don’t sometimes. it was generally imposed on us, but what are you? heavy keeping calmness and cheerfulness including i don't, if i had recipes, then i would have them well, i don't know, go into creativity and using creativity somehow in pawns. it doesn't affect the event itself. it will not
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stop happening around us, what is happening can not turn on the tv. ca n't listen to the radio can't watch in internet. these events will not stop happening, so the sinner gets a little bit of his nerve cell out to do it, see how you respond to events. with these cries of the soul, yes, through creativity you are trying to convey your position, and something to explain to others something happened to yourself, because any surface is always written at the beginning for yourself, and then it either becomes necessary to someone or not, it becomes necessary depends on what and how you wrote, but today you have not forgotten. not for the reds the twentieth year it was clear, as it were, the state. yes, you always said that
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the state repeated after berdyaev exists on earth not so that there is a paradise here , so that there is no hell, yes, your position has changed. of course not, and you stay in the state, and the people who oppose the state. until now , you understand, i have heard a lot in these dissatisfied people, who live very well in their match, live better than their own contented internal complexes. they try to blame society on state they. that's why they can't even explain anything. they are not happy. badly. you will change everything. everything has changed. yes, it is necessary to destroy everything, it is necessary to burn everything. and we already found a new world to build, from which they have a poem close to this topic trying to figure it out. what is what is a state? what is a person?
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what medicines can be here, if we don’t understand what century, where the country is and what the state is in it, where the people are and what the person is in it, if that’s all, then they are every year, that boundary in the black moon, where the crowd becomes a people where the people become a crowd of attention to suharism, but the wave will not explain there, why the fatherland is always right, the country is so often wrong, and in what a resounding frame the bitter guilt was not relied upon, but this accomplishment lasted, and famines in the country let 100,000 times, but lie paper essence lies the state of creativity moisture. won in journalism and that's over the years to you. uh,
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i had to deal with censorship in soviet times, of course, i had to. and she never bothered me. me she never me has never been honest within the framework that has been launched for journalism. and i 'll tell you honestly, when i worked away. there is work in magazines. we have written production articles on analytical difficult to understand problems. uh, to which later they answered and sometimes the ministers even now so what is the blocking and so everything is just fine. they don't have journalists eating the production thing and talking. why is this enterprise coming to a standstill, and what needs to be done? well, that is, when it was, as it were, more difficult and nothing is normal state is very responsive to journalists. once. i remember i wrote an article about the director. uh, dry cleaners and
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so on, he was the rest of the general. i wrote, well, i wrote a biography, i wrote that he ended the war in the future of a colonel in grodno e, about our laws according to ours, therefore he cannot be an officer higher than a major. i say the same war was. well, what's the most? in general, if you talked very well, he didn’t care for me, he crossed out the lieutenant colonel, wrote the major and it doesn’t matter. well that's all claims that i have censored for all my years of work in journalism in literature. so, as a poet, how do you feel about freedom of speech , how do you understand it, in general? what is this saturday of the word it is freedom of speech. whatever you want, say well, speak, we are within
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the background, speak so as not to offend or humiliate the other and no one does anything to you, freedom is not confused with all that is permitted. it generally even borders on some. in short, because the insult begins in relation to the individual. it's like, who needs such weather recently completely in fat, how well it was served with yet really an artist of works. they were not allowed to fall below a certain level. that's it , that it's impossible? this is rudeness, this is this, this is one time, this is impossible. but what is possible? especially for their own money and handed over the book with his head, please pay the money, and then bring it and enter into various writers' unions. so, i really wanted me as a writer, as you told us last time that, well, the intelligentsia environment did not accept the president right away, you watched it. here, with a direct participant
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in these events, as they are today, whether the attitudes of writers' circles, from the same unions to the head of state in general, have changed in the state policy that we are pursuing.
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