it was during these 7 years that ukraine appeared umnoel think i need a war with russia. no, believe me, i don't want that. hello again. we will start the second part with a scandalous prank. now we'll be now. well, let's not take our position, so as not to lift the sanctions on potassium ah. with lukashenka well , there are many countries on our side, but there are those who want to lift sanctions. now we have additional information that children from ukraine were busy with belarus, we are also working with this to hold lukashenka and everyone from belarus accountable. they too did not take part in this, that is, this is one of our arguments. and so, in principle, everything is according to plan. lukashenka unfortunately. how

can we put pressure on the russian oligarchs? all this is interesting, that the state must put pressure on everything. we just have a slightly different context from russia, well, see that the deployment of nuclear weapons is already a huge threat, because it is, uh, constant uh, the presence of russian troops for service. even after the changes, it will be very difficult, uh, to expel eradicate. uh, russian presence from belarus about closing chords. and the fact that all the goods from china circulates from russia through belarus at a time, there and in poland to lithuania, lithuania and poland can completely closed cordons, because allah is churching in brussels, there was a thunderstorm and when their partners depend on the same, it would be such

a tool to cod on and on the way to lukashenka the scenario is many. to be, but we're preparing our plan our plan and hmm our democratic partners. e. what can we do? do we have a plan? and you? war plan we have, what do you have? i can say that we have a plan that is being worked out now by our western partners on what actions to take. what decisions should be made both on our side and on their side ? there is an uh battalion in ukraine, just all of korenovsk. yes, but they are subject to the sun. these are not ours there, these are belarusians, but they are subordinate to the army of ukraine. and at that moment, uh , we can’t just order them. e help us release the belarusians because they are not

subordinating the ukrainian to the ukrainian. but they are ready. here, to be honest, to discuss the content is meaningless, in fact, there is only emptiness, it is obvious that these people are not independent . frank is a little more independent, and he plays a certain role there. it's obviously more a little more. yes, a little more independently, but something else is more interesting. yes , i understand that it was a gift. i understand that you are on purpose, when we have already agreed on this meeting. well, how did you get it right? these are the nuances, they matter. let's nuance that no one asked us. your efforts are there, i'm sorry. we have it was a surprise, but by order, by order of the television company, they did it on the other side. all that nobody this is a very good advertisement. they just remembered, or somewhere in 3 days, that we are going to you and it would probably be good for us to do something similar here, but the story is almost conspiracy theories, in fact

, about six months ago. and we thought, let's write after all, maybe it will work incomprehensibly, when maybe this

call will be organized. maybe she’ll say there in a month or something else that she’s not sitting there at all, then they thought, why poroshenko because he posted a photo with her just recently. that is, you just do it purely intuitively. she is also interested in ukraine, because she wants recognition to legitimize herself from zelensky, and he somehow doesn’t really meet with her there, they met somewhere in the corridor recently, that they shook hands and that’s it. well, actually, we didn’t expect to write, somewhere through some video only the next day. yes, for the next are they ready? yes? you wrote from poroshenko yes, yes, yes, well, and then she, accordingly, threw us a link to this conversation conference. oh well, we could again , we thought we doubted that maybe it was not her. maybe it's something else someone is so divorced from us in this way. and what was in the conversation itself. this is what she did not according to the protocol, because we agreed on a conversation only with her, and

she offered us the whole crowd, but of course, we understand, so if this is a conversation between even, as it were, heads of state, then if you agree, that there will be one person with you, you don't bring anyone, because is this a tet conversation or usually you report there will be some you don't fight against him the appearance of these second personalities. this came as a surprise to you. well, we guessed that i was his in the course of the conversation. yes, yes, we didn’t know, she didn’t warn, that is, we entered the conference and watched. there she sits and, accordingly, the squares. with all this company, but the story is that no matter how it is done, if you are some kind of self-sufficient leader, all issues are related. here, these were elementary questions. uh, who insists on lifting sanctions? what will you do for this, you do not need to involve your assistants so that they answer something for you

for this, how would you answer yourself. eh, here, well, from the conversation. i understand that he is still making efforts to lift the sanctions, yes, that is an important issue for the enterprise. that is, we have more allies than we sometimes think, and they say that southern europe, yes, that is, south america and southern europe, because now these are the sanctions. they globally simply harm, because the need. uh, in production. there is huge now in connection with the grain deal. come on, let's just say it, the harvest will show it today. yes, the situation is like they once imposed even further sanctions. you're not doing anyone any good, by doing so. well, it doesn't matter to them at all. here, yes, the only thing is that frank , of course, is smarter than the rest, because he understands that poroshenko speaks ukrainian. he will immediately hear that there are no answers in ukrainian. but we wanted to communicate with tikhonovskaya, and we thought, there,

maybe, uh, english russian in we are not strong in ukrainian, let's say, so sometimes we resorted to studying someone, but it was rare that with merkel we had to memorize a little, because she also insisted on ukrainian. that is, if she had heard the russians, she would have refused to speak, there was an interpreter there , there was an interpreter from ukrainian into german. and here we thought that she would be alone. uh, since she didn’t warn us, the conversation would be in russian, and as soon as he didn’t hear something ukrainian, he began to have questions. and we understand that here, uh, then it will be all equally ask them and very, well, they will understand. yes, there is a conflict, and therefore they said that pyotr alekseevich got drunk there and forgot the ukrainian language. they apologized, yes, and suggested that she turn on the anthem of ukraine so that she listened to him and mocked. she thought for a long time,

firstly, and then asked. why are we talking? well, to support ukraine. she says that's how we support her. what else is smart? what hymns? yes, excuse me there, there pyotr alekseevich swelled up. he wants to listen, and she thought, but we do not drink, uh, we say, like in your position, what else remains somehow everything and now all these guys have turned off left svetlana yes , maybe i was still hoping for that, if you ask the ukrainian language, let's listen to the ukrainian anthem. why why, in order to support ukraine, you'll forgive me, pyotr alekseevich just swelled up. after meeting in brussels and with you. i would also like to thump,

if anything, as soon as he arrives, we will meet in your situation, in my opinion, thump is the best. well , somehow you don’t really somehow think that something significant, let’s say, an appointed figure is somehow strong. we even prepared not well, that is, those questions that we asked they were already on the surface to learn something else from her, we understand that she is artificially, of course , cheated in the media, but again, this is what we are talking about trends. remember, there used to be greta thunberg, and we called from her, everyone agreed not to communicate. now with them. yes, now no one will communicate, because they have already been killed there, and it was just tikhonovskaya who was killed. tikhonovskaya was in trends, when we wrote from her, everyone was ready to communicate with her fund on this is a famous one, which is like once financed when they said, thinking they were communicating with her. all the guidance was there.

moreover, they even presented these people who are responsible for belarus there, and she has been working there for 30 years, that those people will be present. and now we even wrote from her. nobody wants to communicate with her. even her meaning means she is such a fallback. if there is, uh, forceful, this is precisely the aggression on the part of ukraine, then, here we have, it seems, like a president in exile. and if it is the political will on the part of the west, if ukraine does its dirty work, then we will imprison it as president, and we have not taught any options. no. okay, too much attention, probably paid. yes, let's make the second part of our program a little more serious. although with prankers. i don't know if it's possible, well, let's try it with journalists. yes, some of your pranks almost cost someone, they cost someone, posts and positions are

theoretically your prank. could be the beginning of a third world war. we are often asked just don't start, it's not a joke, even well, we understand, uh, the consequences of our actions, which we can generally foresee, therefore , we are always careful enough neatly and not always. here is the soft power, as they say in some crazy biden, accidentally did not find this button, and we were not associated. yes , there with uh and the state of russia because we are private people and, but some may perceive that, well, russians are all one and the same, all one state. these are the countries where it is customary to associate like this. well let's imagine the middle east started talking and who was the initiator of being recognized as president. this is former us national security adviser john bolt, who just said to trump, let's

recognize him as a truly legitimate president. we know that he came to you in a private conversation. he admitted to us that the only goal is to make belarus turn away from russia. he doesn’t even hide and didn’t hide his phrase that lukashenka would be it is advantageous to do so, because he would hardly like to see himself hanged on a pole. what the revolutionaries will do with it, they hide thanks to you, they hide all their intentions, but look, maybe not the most difficult to implement, but very difficult for our peoples, including the prank, and the minsk agreements are not one prank, but let's start with parashanka. yes, with a blue eye it is recognized.

this signing was necessary for you to give 4.5 years, and to form a normal army, put the economy on the military, yes train according to nato standards well, arm yourself. naturally. i needed these minsk agreements to get at least four and a half years to form the ukrainian armed forces and build the ukrainian economy. and to train the ukrainian military together with nato to create the best armed forces in eastern europe, which was formed according to nato standards. so it turns out that the main scammers are right there in ukraine and in europe. it’s still, probably, diplomacy that here, if you sign some kind of agreement, then you have to accept it. yes, it was all world diplomacy built before. the fact

is that the government is changing in the west and some populist comes and says, and everything that was signed. this was done by my predecessor and, accordingly, here is zelensky who also said this. eh, in public. and he pretended and showed that i was minsky and i did not conclude and did not want to comply with them. therefore, it began, of course, with poroshenko and merkel and alant knew about it, well, poroshenko was such an initiator. i think that not even europe played a role here, but the americans. here is such an abomination from merkel yes, she is also indicative. i just think that the minsk agreements gave ukraine

more time to develop between 2014 and 2021, during which time the president was. you and zelensky so each of them contributed this gain in time was very good for ukraine, although it did not prevent the war, and now ukraine can not only give an answer, but also get the necessary support associated with world-class politicians with experienced. is it normal that they are recognized all over the world, in fact, in the crime of an international crime. you never wanted to tell your characters during a conversation what you really think of them. and this is how you hold yourself in your hands at this moment. we imagine that the one whom we portrayed - said in this case, we are still here as journalists. and it is precisely in the conversations themselves that you need to be neutral, just get answers to those the questions that interest us are no longer washed away. that's right in

conversation time. eh, just like that. well, listen, well, sometimes you are surprised, to put it mildly, about merkel , she behaved unprofessionally after her resignation . . she said at the end, i forgot russian since the fourteenth year, i don’t speak it. although before that, from poroshenko, i communicated with everyone only in russian, and she sees that western elites demand from her. look, minsk didn’t take place, and she thought that there was nothing it’s better how to comply with these trends, that they were in minsk in order to abandon ukraine that they were not unsuccessful, that is , we were looking for our own benefit in this, but she rather followed the others as she told petro poroshenko in a conversation that let’s petro we we won't

remember it. now we have other governments. come on, in our case, we must now sit quietly and trust our governments. the last event is quite significant elections in turkey well, as many experts believed, they threatened to turn into an attempted coup d'etat after the second round. yes, but still the more loyal erdogan won, the more predictable. yes, but they joke that he had to win, because no one would have learned to get a surname. aleksey really was preparing, you were preparing, yes, the turkish president, he skillfully balances between west and east, it must be admitted that he thinks about his people. let's just say he is a nationalist in the best sense of the word. he was already picking up the phone, you had a case. and you do not want to check with him now. what is the course for he proposes the next period. it seems to me even in such a conversation. he would, well, often not say, but in the past, depending on

the interlocutor. he probably said one thing there the interview said another. he also promised poroshenko in our conversation that i would never make friends with russia. hmm and i will never apologize to russia . never will be a month, two, three. after this conversation, respectively, there was a letter , uh, to our president putin, and now, uh, we are the same time. we say that we are thinking about the consequences, therefore, since turkey is now on the side of russia in some matters, we believe that it would especially spoil relations now, it would not lead to anything good, we would have to block tomatoes, again there is another prank that may not so significant, but in belarus it was discussed quite a lot in the expert

community and it had such a good public propaganda value. maybe there are not the brightest counterparts yes, but this is a lithuanian deputy who directly. tells who is bought it, who learned it, who and who set it up, including against belarus yes, so that we, as lithuanians, will still focus on belarusians on ukraine on moldova there sandu has its own war load, there is hope that with biden, maybe we we will do it, well , we will have to work with the french, who are very difficult, but if germany is with us , the nordics will be with us more with us, if britain if america is with us. let's agree, with france it's like there is hope for that, but it will still start in your pair, but you need to. and, of course, others you must make a

peasant democrat for you, who is the best in germany, and this is kaskonrata. denar fan-geishy. this is a great tool, the german christian democrats. they created us , they created me. i am not their product. uh, that's a big power, uh, and a green fund. this uh, hmm shitty fight. uh, small ones, but they don't even really work in casting. but you need to connect with my whole gang, like, uh, with whom i work on belarus georgia and so on, my prime minister thinks, how do i, the minister of foreign affairs thinks, how do i, uh, we are the largest party we have. with a parliamentary republic, the president is symbolic and that's it, he will not speak against it, he will say that something is not right, but you do not pay attention. and what is

more important for you in this case, a hype stop person or such important information, but far from the most famous person. these are the stories, we love small ones , they turn out so small. yes, when they are very interesting, they say, it’s generally good when this is a significant figure, and she talks and says, it’s good. this is the best variant. yes, sometimes. we have such complex stories are very complex and the media is fast there. well, the news is there one day. that's all, no one wants to go deep somehow there to study. and basically. it’s just that the pranksters write, they played the one, they called there and that’s it, everything that you are, well, listen, at least or read the transcript we are already doing, even a brief reference there. well, read take here for you. just put the news, that is, in this regard, after all. for family significance, they at least talk a little longer, i want them to write not only that they played that point it what they talked about, where they came to. that's it, that's it, the story of jan rowling uh and ukraine yes

, top person top, of course, the best -selling. i would say in the west. well, there is one. there are only two persons for sale, but the second one was also generally bred by a woman who came up with harry potter, though on a fashionable theme on a hype character at that time , vladimir zelensky, and it is very interesting that we went to the hmm office. rowling back in the twentieth year, when they wrote to everyone, they say tuberk and oddly enough, but rowling officially refused greta, that, as it were, i congratulate greta there on her international successes, but i don’t want to communicate, but we still have contact. so you thought why not try to open twitter well then, respectively. if you want to emphasize some information and open a social network. quite a different person, look. publication what he is talking about, here we are. she was very actively supporting ukraine there, so i’ll think, not only did she want to support her, firstly, e, all books should be banned, in russia then

and well, she insulted our people in every possible way, and we thought that everything came together here, probably, she wants to talk to zelensky yes, oddly enough, a cultural request, you know harry potter has a scar on his forehead in the shape of the letter z you know that this is lightning . yeah so is it possible to somehow remove this scar in connection with the geopolitical situation, maybe it's better to put our ukrainian trident. the sign of ukraine is on his forehead and it is good to have a haircut like a ukrainian. it would be useful for me to do something about this myself on social networks. i think it will immediately fall into newspapers. i didn't know they did that. but

this is certainly something that i myself can do to myself, what she needs to do in the past. i was an actor, maybe in the future i will continue. i hope that the direct part in the new harry potter movie when especially you put ukraine ukrainian trident to him tax. uh, ford , since they did touch on this topic net. let's just say it's not the most famous structure for those who are not interested in politics, it's not jan rowling yes, but at the same time for those who are in the subject. they understand the importance of this structures of the amount of funding that are thrown into the political market and mastered most importantly carl we believe that the long time spent on strengthening the motor relations with our partners in belarus definitely led to the events in the summer

of the twentieth year. maybe we are wrong, but we do not believe that such an inspired and inspired movement appeared out of nowhere, it appeared overnight, but it developed and we, of course, modestly, but made a significant contribution to strengthening civil activists, so that they do important work, as far as i know. banned in russia now it doesn't matter. it doesn't matter. you know, we don't have offices, like frida mhouse nda and airai we don't have offices. so they won’t be able to kick us out, but we support a lot of groups and active programs, all over the country the idea arose to communicate with them at all, because in russia they also know this fund quite well. the same expert community and even on the air tells russia, but for some time it functioned, and it was always interesting for us

to communicate precisely with such behind-the-scenes quiet organizations that have influence, yes, actually finances precisely emphasize the show. here is this influence and them because many say. yes. it is there that some give grants for some kind of humanitarian purposes. why do you immediately think there is no revolution? no, there it's all inventions propaganda and it's interesting to see for yourself to talk, just on this topic with such secrets, as they say, societies. in america, they are well known throughout the establishment. that's because the head of it is now the former head of karl hershman. he was appointed by reagan there, that is, he has been sitting there for a long time. uh, on these financial flows and distributes them, and his deputy was a barbarahack. uh, barbaraheika is the daughter of alexander haig, the former nato commander for europe, that is, a serious, just such a strong one of the strongest nato commanders

in history. in fact. i mean, she's so hot. she is the most, probably , she told us that how we want to remove the power in belarus, how we hide it. there we finance our secret. we finance different organizations, and that’s all we have well, it's a very interesting moment. she spoke ter. taxes of the cold war, she says something about russia, well, what do you think, that we were banned here in russia , we don’t have offices in russia somewhere else in some countries, but we have cells. that's what he said, a sleeping cell and there are people all over the country who at any moment can do what we want and when we say a, well, how is it banned in russia. they began to laugh in unison, like, and how they can't kick us out. we have ours here the little ones say, er, boldly and cynically, that they financed some trade union movements in belarus at that time and that they

are even some of them. well, they don't seem to be offensive. uh, the ngos that supported the national language belarusian, it seems that these should be humanitarian goals, but they say that we have no political goal and that they are set to change the government. we had a huge number of ngos that were engaged in that. yes, there is ecology with women violence and so on. they seem to be outwardly it looked very decently, but the twentieth year showed the whole essence, because she woke up. they didn’t just wake up, they didn’t finance, including participation in the riots. and this was not hidden. and even more so when it has already begun to unfold one by one. well, in fact, about a thousand ngos we have 30%, uh, left immediately just because of this. if we talk about plans, i understand what to disclose to whom and how yes. let's just laugh it off. can you say, is it true that there is a concept at all that

you can make a political order? here define define this person this a very interesting person for a tv channel for a particular state for a particular politician for a particular intelligence service. and you this task. do you yourself considering this kind of order. well, if something is interesting to us, first of all, if some topic is contrary to our interests. and, well, that is, we will not, of course, be engaged. and if, let's say, and you have some here, let's say, you say, i have donald's phone, trump, if you want, i 'll give it to you. but if you make a prank, we mean the premiere only on our tv channel in our transfer, as it were, and here we are thinking. and why not. that is, or biden's phone, but we will again proceed from the fact that this does not introduce any kind of instability into the internal politics of our countries and,

firstly, that it does no harm. this is one of the main principles. secondly, well, like, uh, we already said. it should be interesting. first of all, this person. and , of course, each specific story must be looked at so that it is not some kind of set-up so that someone comes to us and says, here we have this phone. we have this person. come on, you will divorce him on this topic, there is no such thing, on the contrary, it’s somehow not very pleasant. there are two things, anyway. yes, who personally cost a career, your work, but we don’t know for sure, in fact, there’s not a single name, because usually in such things. well, as it were, they just don’t just kick them out, but several ambassadors of ukraine to turkey in turkey were definitely kicked out later by some other ambassador, yes, and well, it’s not something that directly cost them. they just moved to that place another for some reason after your conversation. and they are not right away in a couple of months,

well, usually right away, because something like that. perhaps because he immediately after that went into his head no, because he framed, they said what they hid for so many years, and he said openly. and of course, just now we mentioned the head of the lithuanian parliament's foreign affairs committee there, yes, and he, too, because of this, there were even petitions that we demand to dismiss him, then he went bankrupt.