with me, if i'm wrong, tatyana. probably, it will be more yours after all. what were these changes for? well, like, uh, i see the idea of ​​fair competition has already been voiced, because at some point we really had there, yes, some indulgences. including tax , we got many options under which people could engage in own business, and at the same time there are minimal, uh, taxes to pay. yes, well , the same, the same symbolic amount was conditionally paid by a person who was there from weaves straws. eh, horses and the same amount. uh, paid there to a man who is somewhat subordinate. that is, at some point they began to abuse some, as if, well, loyal, or something, aspects of moments, so they decided to order it correctly. and you, of course, are saying everything correctly, but there is another such one. and at the moment, we communicate, of course, almost every day. and with

business there, through appeal through all sorts of calls, there is such a moment, see business. you are right, this is a business. this risk and who is in the business? at first we seemed to be self-employed, then we became an individual entrepreneur and the next step is a legal entity. and here the question became. we are a very good example, when we went and did a public discussion of this normative act, which has now been considered by the chamber. in the first reading. in brest there was a very good example, and a young man. he says, you know, when i was and was engaged in an individual entrepreneur. there, some type of activity in the field of medical services and wanted to re-register as a legal entity, then i had to spend a year and a half in order to re-register my competence permits of the lease agreement. and here is this gap in order to not veil it, and this law is directed. that is , it is a one-time transmission. transfer

of competencies in one day, of course, when that's uh, business always know the alertness. and why is he cautious - this is a psychological fact, everything new is perceived. this, of course, is always bad. eh, even an example. so i'll tell you, and we talked with business at the end of the past year when the professional tax was introduced. uh-huh, that's bad. everything in general, in my opinion, everything, this is really all my bad now, when we have already begun to discuss. this bill is not in any audience, not in any area, not in any of the collectives. i didn't hear it was bad. everyone speaks well. and you can have our ideas, that is, there, or you can still, because this application has become convenient. this administration is very easy and immediately the calculation of creativity, just the same on the last program regarding this topic. we talked about how convenient it is. for those, who renders, service received money deducted or designated how much ah? people who are conditionally

creative professions, they are, just the same , faced with what we then conditionally said wedding presenter. this is what happened to them. or is this how alena began to speak? yes, for example, that's why e ipshniki began to speak? well, somehow not very convenient. look, there is one entrepreneur , five people work for him. he organizes a company and pays certain taxes. but as soon as he does all these undertakings, on his own people will transfer the status of individual entrepreneurs; they pay taxes three times less. well, look, well, as if you are saying here, we are doing this in order to make it better, but people see that it is not better. maybe better maybe the word justice was missed. here is the word justice. there is another very important factor here. this is decriminalization. today. unfortunately, this one at times, if they are an order of magnitude less than taxation, some call it tax optimization, the fiscal authorities, they say, tax evasion. that is, this is a factor that, in general, i i seem to hang out in this environment,

i have some kind of relationship. i will tell you that this factor, by the way, played an important role, because marginality benefit for the budget, as such, if you remove the factor of criminalization, they do not make a significant profit. i will give you a figure , either uh, the minister of economy, or the ministry of finance, said in the twenty-third year of the current year these changes, which will bring the budget, from my point of view, to less than half a million belarusian rubles, and in the future this amount there are several dozen, and each peshnik was divided. so that's a good sum of each individual story. it must be said, yes, that is , when more than 100,000 private employees pay themselves less than the living wage . that is, here you have less factors to blame on the mirror. you understand, as a person who, in principle, was involved in the study of this bill. so, briefly, the main novels that

exist and i know that there were public discussions. yes, there have been some adjustments. can you bring a specific example that you did not take into account, but you were prompted by business people, for example, people from the outside. well, yes, indeed, these are unprecedented, i would say our public discussions. they even surprised the business to some extent. yes, and they were really happy about this opportunity , the discussion was quite a lot of suggestions. that is, if you touch on the main points, yes, in general. uh, if we talk about this bill, this is a seamless evolutionary transformation e of individual entrepreneurs into legal entities, that is e organizations. uh, it is proposed that even the registration of one's own apartment even with the registration of one's own apartment is the preservation. still, these jays are communal. yes further business, of course, it must grow and reach a certain point of growth, yes. here we have at

the moment it's like a microorganization. let's say 15 people, yes, and they e exist the need for its growth in the future and for this growth to occur. again, emphasized evolutionarily, that is, it did not open. the next one is an enterprise with 15 employees. but the developers of the deputy supported. uh, given the concept that there will be two groups of organizations - these are small and medium, that is, you never know if there are enough people. uh, average 250 people. uh, so there will be a group of up to 50 people allocated to medium-sized organizations , which will be located for a year and uh, the same, in principle, as u number of up to 15 people, that is, point 50 is already. well, this is already the essence of being pushed in order for them to develop. yes, they are, see all the book of all jobs read. that's right, it's written there that he started assembling computers in a garage. and in the end, what did it become? i have the impression that not many. we only use the book in practice. you have applied

the story according to the classical law, let's return to our sinful earth again. you are right and your colleagues say that it has gone since last year. here is the trend. yes, that is orderly equal exchange rate competition. here i will ask questions, then i will answer it myself. and how long has it been ? that many had to pay. how many percent have changed 2% over these six months? that is, as long as you don’t drive it into the neck like this, the people themselves. that's what we're talking about, that's growth. why leave when in the top ten there are times in ten percent there are more preferential. why think? what if i brought it back? why didn't this explosive growth in re-registration happen? uh, until that moment, that's until there deadline, uh, has not come. well, because, probably, it is first of all, really psychological. yes, because we don't change yes, because just like

uh, we have a phone. we have learned to work on a push-button, and already to a smartphone. we are not always ready to work with him, so this is a question of information, a question of training, a question of generally trying on the clothes that will be, uh, this one, in terms of whether i will be good or bad. and if when i especially work here, sometimes word of mouth is good for me or not, here are 15 profitable or profitable, good or bad for an entrepreneur in practice. it's the same thing, on the other side. if we are talking about he is an entrepreneur, he thinks the same way. and what will happen tomorrow? and then all of a sudden it gets cancelled. and suddenly, excuse me , he can interrupt me, look, any entrepreneur must take risks and most often go one step ahead of everyone else. really in this situation people who are accustomed to take risks and make a move say. so

the unknown they think to you. but, let me sit and think, all of a sudden this will not affect me. well, that's funny. there is one more point here - this is a question of age and type of activity, if we take an organized business is definitely looking forward. yes, if we take today's entrepreneur, if we look at the portrait, it's practically 40 plus, or even 50+, and these entrepreneurs are already uh, they're not, well, 40 minutes gone. it ’s the other way around for me, it seems that today young people can’t drive enterprises, just the same for 40 minutes, but either in legal entities, or in mercenaries, or left from outside. no, there are people who, but believe me, if you take young people into small businesses, they usually register a commercial organization. here, a well, the fact is that, probably, they are already used to working to share risks, because , as a rule, this is not one non-unitary enterprise. this is usually. honestly with

limited liability, where there are several, and a person yes, and which collects the authorized capital and develop, look. i 've noticed, again discussing this topic , there used to be ordinary clothing markets, yes, we have district centers, now they are starting to disappear. at first i thought that, well, maybe people began to go to the store, no, all of these entrepreneurs have moved , uh, somewhere on the internet and some wildberries are now the main market for all regional centers. so. this is also a risk. well, in this they have learned, and pay the normal tax. no, it is a legal entity. yes , exclusively, as on the site, right? well, this is a platform, of course, instead of a market. they now put up photos and still don't lay things out, essentially the same thing. oh, well, as a rule, there are laid out by manufacturers for a large demolish. maybe from china and sold a couple of minutes to your function and ask a scammer a question. here you asked. and

the question is how i preside, as the head of one from my point of view the most respected business union. why entrepreneurs are like this and i would generalize the genre. and why is the union of entrepreneurship, including you and the rest, too, they take such a trench position, the state initiates shooting, and you just shoot back and sit in bunkers. no, you don't have to initiative. here is the trend that the president said. why don’t you propose new formats of entrepreneurship, just like this? i want to say that our proposal has been implemented, because the union unites legal entities and our union, just the same , always exactly what is happening. wait a second about what we have been talking about for probably 15 years. let's create equal conditions for the economy oh yes, that is, it is necessary, in short, right now all the claims that are now addressed to this are here, yes, we even talked about it. the fact is that it can be done more simply, yes, and here,

for example, as in germany, as soon as an individual entrepreneur, yuri uses this hired labor. it is immediately equated with a legal entity. can't do anything you can practically hand over a decree and say that there is an employee. you immediately went legal, because, in my opinion, this is a very simple kind of workers from the family. we can get a revolution. we have decided on the evolutionary path of the revolution already business against the revolution ah, different opinions of the individual legal entity, yes business, because we understand that we have about 250,000 people who are associated with individual entrepreneurs. how are the individual entrepreneurs themselves? so are hired hands. we analyzed the activities which works, we understand that there are 35 percent there, 40 percent there - this is trade.

well, somewhere around 20 percent - these are complex types 5% of production is just not true 8% of industry 8% of construction, just looked at the statistics, and we understand, yes, for someone evolution is not needed - a revolution is not needed. we need to give them the opportunity to have this seamless transition. the same jean casimirno. i also had such an interesting proposal that it directly entered my soul. but we still do not know how to arrange it here, look. children. we have 14 years of age have the right to work. yes, only a passport is needed for an individual entrepreneur or there, uh, an individual to realize his entrepreneurial idea, maybe 14 years old, i can’t say this, we can’t. yes, i 'm thinking now that you know children advertise from the age of 12, they begin to trade in kufar things, do you understand? well, let's deal

with adults. this is also our business editorial. with that, it will be than an enterprise. yes, pyotr borisovich, you have everything to add to our discussion like this, the sigers can add so many uh, positive ones. uh news, uh a significant expansion of the range is envisaged. e, sub-state business support, moreover, the e line and and expansion of institutions that are involved in providing support. this is not only a belarusian fund. but this is also the development bank - this is the executive committee - this and many others. and what should be the conditions? look here. you say what conditions. i want to open a business, what amount should i have, what should i have a business plan. and even more so, most likely. here are the people who start a business do not always have competencies. if help, for example, is this one, well, we must first of all look. for which category of business for start-up business? one help is needed for what has already

taken place, which needs to develop , it needs other help from the angels. you also exist. yes? of course there are business support centers. there are business incubators. it's a whole network. uh, such development institutions that just work with startups work with those. who else wants to be an entrepreneur? eh, it's all very advanced. well, first of all. uh, what i uh said on the basis of the law is financial support and it is uh more necessary for an existing business or a business that is opening new directions new branches. so this is all provided for in the law, and it is very important that those projects are a concrete example. well, there was, for example, we have such a pilot project, in fact, a guarantee guarantee fund in the country, while there is no guarantee fund, the belarusian fund began to do this. as a pilot we worked for 8

million belarusian rubles and issued guarantees now we already see, well, they worked. everything is complicated there. this is a high-risk, highly problematic , let's say, type of activity, but we have worked it out as part of a pilot. and now we are already launching it. well, as they say in commercial operation. this will no longer be a pilot project. and this is already a state state so that entrepreneurs can go to the bank and take money from these bloodsuckers. you know, entrepreneur. yes, he has a business project for a million, but he only has 500, this 1,000, yes, 500 rubles. and he comes and speaks to the bank. i want to take a loan from the bank, he says i can. let them give a loan, but under uh,

collateral collateral. i don’t have an apartment and nothing, only i don’t have a house. uh, no car, no nothing. there are only ideas and there is money for parts, he says, then we will go, please, to the guarantee fund. here is the guarantee fund. perhaps it will give you. here is this pledge or guarantee in relation to obtaining a loan. he goes to the guarantee fund, receives this guarantee and, accordingly , our president implements his ideas. eh, many times already repeated that in every small regional center it is necessary to create production. well , that is, any project should be, which would bring not only jobs , but also bring profit to the region and , in fact, leave added value here. well, this is a normal story when there is production developing. uh, we have both business and, in fact, the district itself. so. here. tell me that businessmen want to be engaged in production. or we have production. again, first of all, business is first of all bought to sell. well to you who comes of course, do not buy and sell

in order to really develop the business , already buy and sell and you will not earn money. this is a niche direction, and here it must be said that this is very feasible, because here it is not only the problem of one businessman, but a whole range of conditions is being created in order to implement a project in the area has its own specifics. there she and even on scientific. e on deep theoretical levels. e, it is calculated and analyzed and it is already going on the prepared soil, the entrepreneur begins to work for him conditions are created for this and uh, the idea itself and the raw materials are local there. uh, cadres, okay, that is, whatever you choose to do. here i come. i know that i do not have an entrepreneurial spirit, but my wild imagination has come. i told you that i will earn there, as an individual would not have given. here.

i have to prove to be believed in my idea there are different kinds of support. there are correspondingly different approaches, because there are such supports, i understand, there are such where money is given free of charge and for good. a. well, it's true, there is little money, but there are those where well, not 5 rubles. this is probably a colleague from the executive committee. oh, the executive committee was completely free, yes, if i'm out of work, but i learned to live to take. and i know how to live , yes, i come and say that i can sew. and i want to sew. i want to buy a neck machine. yes oh, the sewing machine costs there, let's say 1,000 rubles. then you can get an unemployed person, then you need to provide that you bought a typewriter and started doing business. well, let's here , yes, i started doing business with you. this need to be confirmed. but, and the main factor is that he must be unemployed and registered

, that is, we must be unemployed, because the weekend, if the business is in parallel and this is officially registered business, then , accordingly, he will not receive such a subsidy for the unemployed. it will not be the situation in the minsk region. uh, there are more entrepreneurs or fewer investment projects. this is also a business correctly list of projects one region one project included 42 projects regardless of the fact that we have 23 regions, but we have included 42 projects, respectively, in each region, it is possible that two investment projects are envisaged for the implementation, which is clear that this is the creation of production, which will further contribute to the creation of jobs, in addition to this, in order to understand that all businessmen want and develop a haven near the capital in the minsk region in order to somehow encourage business to develop in rural

areas. we are now building a pilot project, we are building a production site in the volozhin district, and in the area of ​​the village kapustino, a production site will be created, ready, to which a business entity and the entire engineering infrastructure will come. everything will be connected, except for this boss. wait. let's, let's put it in plain language. yes, what will happen on this site, someone can come there, and small businesses, those who want to, let's say. well, for example, someone wants, a , to assemble some kind of metal structure, or , well, i want to put a sewing machine, a and sew. yes, i can get to this site a ready-made site, all the infrastructure is there, in addition to this, there will be administrative buildings on the site, too, not on a collision. well, yes, well, as it were, the subject of the nearest territory. well, that is, the development of rural entrepreneurship, so that people are somehow here, so this is the creation of jobs, how to encourage them to do so? they created

their own business in the countryside. and although a small production, so that it was created by an individual entrepreneur, they began with an individual entrepreneur. i understand that we kind of left, deep and high big business. here in the area. and this is the transitional period. right now leaving there sixteen percent tax to twenty percent tax. here is the whole story. it also went like this in the minsk region, like in the whole country 2%, uh, something came there and earned only 500,000 rubles. but in fact, how much money did the ipeshniks give and because, well, i understand that in the region, for example, people who , again, buy and sell, they did big business to come to one village and sell what is sold in minsk, they are sold it's also a business there. yes, this is also a business. they start working at a loss like share budget revenues from entrepreneurs , specifically from individual entrepreneurs , really amount to 2%, 2-3% no more,

because everything else is somewhere in our region from small medium-sized businesses in the region. this is the 47th row 45-47% varies from month to month or from quarter to quarter. but entrepreneurs , you mean this transition, when we made changes to tax legislation, it is clear that there were indignations that they did not understand why they removed the simplified taxation system, but all somehow gradually gradually adapted to the new conditions. and now i would not say that there are any disturbances in the taxation systems. that is now. uh, someone suddenly realizes that he can no longer be uh, ip and work, as was considered at the site of the minsk executive committee, but namely such here, but comments or objections on the project itself from the subject. there was no butter, that is, it is clear to everyone that there will be a seamless transition from an individual entrepreneur to a commercial organization, because there is

a factor that has now come to him and we need to talk about it. that is, what, it means that there will be no ip, no one will close it. we are talking about types of activities, it is today in many respects like that. spoke anvel, i think it is important to emphasize that here are the lists for individual entrepreneurs, the new lists for the regions. they may differ so that the features of the regions from grodno are very different. especially since today it is just that he is just yes, yes really. and after the first reading, uh, the list wow, the list of activities, it is now in

the public domain and widely discussed, including in parallel at the working groups that come and take place on the platform of the parliament. uh, well, groups of the ministry of economy are working in parallel, yes, which, let’s say, we didn’t delegate, but in general it’s understandable that the list of activities was delegated by the body that is responsible, what are we with the faps with mobile shops? how many fought, and this is completely different story than here is to pay attention. we are talking about one region, one project. yes, and it is very different if we say oksist in the city of minsk and even with a taxi, which can be said to play a social role somewhere in the pukhovichi or there in the rassons. yes , there, because there is a person there, yes, who seems to be. there will be a taxi for the whole city, yes, which practically collects. uh, grandparents, there are sick people where they go on shuttle buses and bring them to the hospital,

yes, that's why, but trace. here he is registered tomorrow in the countryside. yes, and that he will come and will, in general, taxi in e. polotsk or there in the city of minsk is also quite difficult, so the implementation. yes, adults, in theory, can be touristic, because purely theoretically. true, what can not be said about the conditional chausky district, therefore, well, in the sense i repeat, it seems to me that it is worthy of repetition. that is , i say it again, there is a single list, this list says that there is none, and especially the regions , including at the district level, need to defend its institutional position according to the law on demand according to the criteria of the economy - this is real. that's it. today they should just look into the mouth, there is the ministry of economy or minsk, and including putting the government on this conscious parliament. rii go first

reading second reading, yes, already the second. reading and actually we say, well, the truth is, before the ip is a person who just wanted to do something. yes, from the photograph to there is a whistle of clay. let's get cyril wrong. it's not just something. although he in general, according to the law, he was allowed to do whatever he wanted. well, including here i am again talking about criminology, including our statistics was that tens of millions of dollars were passed through taxation through vp a year later. you are behind the keys of the contracts you used to be employees. you will pay less taxes. they will receive science, in which the foundation, of course, by this decade. there is also an initial situation. the accumulation of capital accumulated by the state gave this opportunity. yes, at first there were shuttles. now let's sell. it turns out to go to another business

when i feel good. why take the risk? let's get back, here's to our topic first, why go? a? second, b. e all already, i understand, as i do. i perceive that the decision is almost made, it is not subject to final appeal, and here we find out in the course of our discussions there are bottlenecks, as they say , some amendments and proposals regarding the same list of activities in the region as it is , then, as i repeat again. yes, we work with bill and in parallel with the lists is carried out non-stop on a daily basis. uh, it means that it drags on when no one plans projects and those constructive proposals, especially in russia, uh, call for yes, they have a place to be, but this does not mean that we will be talking about it for a long time and somewhere far away. first, we haven't said two more here. no, they stated at the beginning that a seamless transition implies

an absolutely free transition, which must be such a good candy. yes, uh, for business, and we didn't mention timelines. on this 2 whole years are given, that is, for two years people have not prepared for this, so 2 years is not so much. believe to realize understand from the entrepreneur. yes , an entrepreneur who did not enter that period will have a choice himself. uh, from the view in childhood in samara, that's how the regulator, yes from the side of the regulator, maybe you also see some problems that you suggest to the legislative, or you just wait for them to pass the law, and then you will see how it should work. no. you know we are constructive we work at the parliament site, but literally every day. we are having a lot of discussions, and it helps a lot with business and business today. well, tell me everything in the morning. yes , they were just going to, and almost all of them.

lists were published from the organs will gather last week. and we are the government for individual entrepreneurs, those that are allowed, i will emphasize in 47 bodies. we sent these lists, and by friday we got some kind of reaction in order to escalate the situation. many government agencies to look deeper into the essence of the problem. this there was a meeting in the morning. and literally found, in my opinion, 3.5 or 4 hours. we discussed activities for and against. that is , the regulators acted. here we are for here we are against. i will honestly tell you for myself , even here, such a thing was opened by the ministry of transport , speaks and speaks. you know, it is necessary to leave the people who are engaged in river transport to individual entrepreneurs. we have 230 of them. well, honestly, hand on heart. i ’ll honestly tell you that i didn’t know what we were saying, how you can eat, but they had a requirement must be the captain. he has a professional.